Can Slavery Be Moral?

Mufti Abu Layth mocks and laughs at people who say slavery is good, even "Islamic slavery" which is really ancient Arab slavery with Islamic injunctions added to it. No, it's not good. It was never good, it's not doing anyone a favor and we never want it to come back again.
From What is Trajectory Hermeneutics? - Mufti Abu Layth Al-Maliki
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[@HassanRadwan133]

Much love and respect to Mufti Abu Layth

[@alldogsgotoheaven3434]

Hassan Radwan Hassan I just want to say that I really admire you. You speak with humility that comes from life experience. Thank you for being you and being guided by you own principles

[@dandan-sw7ln]

"Can evil be moral?" No.

[@19coyote80]

This is a good man.

[@HassanRadwan133]

I'm Going to share this

[@DarkMatter1919]

Go on then

[@mohsinarif2802]

Islam needs more Mufti Abu Layths.

[@rossini55]

Islam needs more Abdullah Sameers

[@LlyneM-rf3gd]

Yes islam does need more muslims to refute "muhammad".

[@mr.bootleg646]

@Mohsin Arif amen to that

[@lilystrong9870]

This kind of reform is what Islam needs. Also, I'm a caretaker of a kid I found at a parking lot.

[@tanjavankessel2548]

It would have been nice if this insight had been spread through the Quran, 1400 years ago...

[@ankitanandy6076]

It would have been possible only if Mohammad was not a sex crazy power hungry fake Prophet! That man single-handedly caused much damage.

[@muhammadsaif1273]

Westerners were the ones who initiated the abolishment of Slavery in the 19th century across the world. The Muslim world were the last to abolish Slavery with the efforts of the westerners even though Islam never put an end to the institution of slavery and islamically slavery is halal till the day of judgement. Islam is for all times they say. In the 7th century when Islam originated, Slavery was considered normal and practised by all civilization back then. Islam was no different. Muslims used to have sex with their female slave acquired through waging war on infidel land even without marriage. They even sold their slaves in the slave markets which were very common back then. When you lose a war, you could lose everything. A Victor sleeping with your wife was considered too trivial. Now that the human minds evolved, the humans of 2018 consider this practise as immoral and disgusting. So is Islam outdated?

[@nickjohn2051]

Yes Islam is outdated.

[@normalperson3451]

No, slavery existed before the advent of Islam, yet Muslims have enslaved more people in history than any other people in history. Check your facts.

[@muhammadsaif1273]

@@normalperson3451 Slavery existed since time immemorial. The westerners did a great job in removing this evil from society which the Quran couldn't do.

[@normalperson3451]

Check your facts. Westerners certainly had many slaves and many slaves died and suffered at their hands. However, Muslims have had more slaves over time and used to do things like March them through the Sahara. From where the slaves were captured and traded to the north of Africa. Where the arabs were. Read about such things and then get back to me.

[@oromoonekoo2445]

That’s Mohamed, tell that to your fellow Muslims

[@rossini55]

Yet another believer who is better than his god.

[@nrgrlsd9931]

THAT PART!

[@fatimabenel3805]

Loved it!

[@suzmia8553]

Mufti Abu layth is good at reforming the Religion but he still disappoints me when he mentions that Quran is word of God.

[@suzmia8553]

We need muslims to Admit that the Quran is not Literal Word of God, or maybe not Gods word at all. Everything will be solved.

[@suzmia8553]

why control the internet. they need to control their man made scriptures... spiffing nonsense that don't make sense with the Nature of the Universe.

[@nickjohn2051]

@@suzmia8553 Yes. In the past I do believe we must shunned or systematically ban organized religions. However, I had to reinstate my position as that would be too authocratic and too harsh even from secular point of view. In that sense, any authocractic government can hijack the movement to systematically ban any other ideologies that "deemed" offensive just as what China did. IMO, that is abuse of human right and freedom of expression. Thus, I believe, to "cure" the Islamist mind virus, we must copy what Christian did in the past. A slow but steady reformation. The clear divide between government and church etc. Islam is ideological virus, that infect hosts from young age. And as any virus that gained a long standing foothole, to cure it would need a long and consistent treatment. Just as any drug withdrawal/substance abuse program. You dont detoxify immediately by banning the user from taking the drugs. You slowly reduce the dosage over period of time with consistent rate. We cannot fix drug abuse just by banning them immediately, and most common folks dont know this. Heroin, and Benzo withdrawal if stop abruntly, the users can die from seizure. Same as religion. Muslim would not embrace these "western values" immediately just by bombarding them with "debunked videos" etc etc. The change must came from the society itself. And I believe, by persuading slowly the society to reject Quran as "perfect" or "immutable", we are on the right course to reduce Islamist extremism. As such, we should welcome any statements from muslim that challenges the view of Islamic supremacism, as Muslim tends to still hear opinions from another muslim than a non-muslim kaffir.This is the strategy used by Maajid Nawaz. Islam indeed had influence cultures, and to outright rejecting culture will be too much for some lone individuals to bear. Thats why some ex-muslim did had depressive episodes as anecdotal observation from subreddit /r/exmuslim. Some of them indeed had suicide for not being able to widthstand this immense pressure. Thats why it is important for us to look at bigger picture. Those exmuslim would have hard time being in exmuslim in muslim majority countries because of stigma and inherent danger coming out as exmuslim.

[@suzmia8553]

I understand what your and I agree most of your saying, but reformation can only start when we realise the Quran is not the Word of God but from a Man who had some sort of Inspiration to deal with his society for his time. Making the Quran the Literal word of God is causing all and everyone to suffer even non muslims. God exists in peoples Heart not in a Written book, who ever wants to have faith should and whoever doesn't want have faith should have right to.

[@sugetsumillenium2112]

I'd says he's reforming some aspects of Islam but also reverting other aspects such as basing faith on reason as that's what the early scholars did

[@hannan4518]

Outstanding!

[@tamashbeen6610]

Mufti Abu Lauyth, good work ! Proud of you.

[@NRFP]

So what is right hand process quranic verse(malakat aimanuku)

[@Reverse-sg5rn]

Islam does clearly allow slavery so what's wrong with this guy. It's also noteworthy that he calls it forbidden. Even though it was not forbidden in the past. If poork was forbidden in the past is it OK to legislate is as unforbidden now because of social presure? Poor islam it is being torn apart by time. Because of an unalterable book and an infallible prophet.

[@Reverse-sg5rn]

ایمان آبشار yeah exactly

[@Some_Deist]

Pork will still cause you cancer

[@lminterests5590]

Jefferson had slaves. Yet he lamented how the practice would altimately corrupt your principles.

[@quintanvos4407]

I am pretty sure Daniel Hakikatjou disliked this vide. so far 11 dislike. 11 people approving slavery by disagreeing Mufti Abu Layeth.

[@Ayan_quraishi]

❤ respect

[@jovan7437]

respect.....

[@azeez8399]

"Abu Hurayra reported that the Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The slave has his food and clothing. Do not burden a slave with work which he is incapable of doing."" Source: www.sunnah.com/adab/9/37

[@mathieug6136]

Watched his channel a bit, sounds a fun guy hehe

[@iamnoman1]

voice level too low can't hear a thing

[@ankitanandy6076]

all those people who support slavery should go through it, it might be acceptable in certain ages, but it was always against human rights.

[@at3717]

I love mufti 😂❤😂❤

[@varexai]

I thought he was saying cheesecakes are unexceptable - lol

[@mathieug6136]

Good words. I think everyone should agree, but it gives some cognitive dissonance to Muslims as the innevitable question follow as to why would god write that it's all normal? The obvious answer is that he would not, but it hurts to much to get there.

[@Suryapoosarla]

it also says what kind of questions muslims ask in australia...just think about what kind of questions they will ask in pakistan...

[@user-ez6wr1cz5o]

👍👍👍👍

[@akimia6373]

🙏❤️🙏

[@foxwatson285]

he crack down islam like got like

[@mitchplays9295]

This is undeniable fact that the holybook is not holy and its not from god.

[@gnatiu]

Ethics of age? So Allah/God was ok with slavery back then? This is typical: Explaining some stupidity with change of times. 2 + 2 = 4. Now and 14 centuries before. Slaves had rights? So what?

[@lastfirst2021]

I love to be the “Care Taker” of all islamists in that way. Hitchens is shouting from his grave right now: ”religion poisons Everything”. At Least 6 billion people on the earth are a potencial danger to humanity just because they believe in an imaginary SM master.

[@shaikmudassir6455]

It wasn't moral in any day and age It was immoral at the time of prophet as well And then Allah said not to have them as slaves, but if they released those slaves immediately. Those slaves didn't have anywhere to go, or anything to eat. So Allah said, take care of them, and let them go whenever they feel like going

[@namefreenargrom5694]

Release them and pay them for the work they do. Oh! that would have been a greater Islam.

[@NRFP]

So what is right hand process quranic verse(malakat aimanuku)

[@shaikmudassir6455]

@@NRFP learn ancient arabic to know about that.

[@user-xi2dp3fi8k]

@@shaikmudassir6455 YOU do REALISE Muslims Arabs exchanged slaves Look at Bilal as a example he was bought by Abubakar from Umayah for the exchange for another innocent Ethiopian black slave And when Abubakar died Bilal become the slave of UMAR the second Caliph of Islam How on earth is this Freedom??? 🤡

[@yahiawaleed828]

Canaanite and Mesopotamian culture obviously

[@systamatics]

Oh man, your propher killed Safiyya's family and married her by force

[@spacejunk2186]

Slavery can only be moral at best if the enslaved person agrees to be enslaved.

[@klansix]

if they're brainwashed, they'll probably agree to it. Remember Harriet Tubman said: "I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves."

[@DarkMatter1919]

"if the enslaved person agrees"? You mean like a Muslim marriage?

[@issygaming5479]

You can't explain Islaam with you're desires or thoughts. Islaam is explained by Authentic texts and sources.

[@nrgrlsd9931]

And that is where Islam falls apart and looses all credibility with rational people.........

[@majestyk8654]

Slavery cant be justified. It’s immoral.

[@nrgrlsd9931]

"the Sunnah of Allah. And you will find no change in the Sunnah of Allah" quran. If slavery is immoral in Islam today, then it was immoral in Islam then....but it wasn't. If it was moral back then in Islam, then it's moral today. Because Allah is the one with perfect morals and he decides what is moral correct? "Today I have perfected for you your religion. Completed my favors and blessings on you and choose Islam as your religion" quran. Anybody who understands the tafsir of this last verse understands that what was made halal then, is halal today. And what was made Haram then, is Haram today. There is a lot of grey area in the fiqh of it all but shariah is shariah then and now. I'm glad Muslims are coming into the present with their mind frame but Islam is Islam. And if you claim it's from an all knowing, all wise God who is also all good and just and the source of morals then slavery should have never been allowed by Allah............

[@nrgrlsd9931]

@Zack Smith lol Zack. Every one of the rashada khulifah had slaves...... Omar's killed him. This was after the prophets death and after "revelation" stopped coming down. Aisha had slaves after the death of Muhammad. Muhammad himself had and took and approved of his companions taking slaves (which makes it Sunnah, which makes it part of Islam) after these verses we're "revealed". The freeing of slaves was meant to expiate the sins of the "believers". You can pick and choose what you want to from Islam to paint the picture you want. The reality is as in taymiya said. "If a person's actions are 75 percent of the Sunnah and 25 percent of bida' then he is a person of the Sunnah. And if his actions are 75 percent bida' and 25 percent of the Sunnah, then he is of bida'." Because you have to judge a thing by it's entirety. And Islam, just like Judaism and Christianity, are more evil than they are moral. You people have just been brainwashed into thinking that the evil that "Allah/God" does is actually good and moral because your little books say so. I used to be brainwashed too.....it's not too late though bro. Everything starts with just asking the question why, honestly and objectively. Peace.

[@nrgrlsd9931]

@Zack Smith but you can't refute any of the points I made can you? Am I wrong in what I said about the khulifah having slaves? Or Muhammad, after these verses we're revealed? Or Aisha? Or any of the other companions that had slaves? Shouldn't they have freed them all being that it's soooo righteous and virtuous? Your all knowing god SUPPOSEDLY said in quran that Muhammad was a good example for anyone who believes in Allah and the last day. Then your tyrannical prophet murdered a man and his sons and FORCED the man's daughter to marry him. He also killed her REAL husband. It's recorded in Hadith that she hated Muhammad for years while being forced to be his wife. If this is the beauty of Islam, you go ahead and keep that shit. How many sex slaves did Muhammad and his companions take? After killing these poor women's husbands and sons? For the aweful crime of........ NOT BELIEVING THE BULLSHIT THAT FELL FROM MUHAMMAD'S MOUTH. And this is the freedom that your precious quran gave to slaves? The quran allows a man to have sex with what his right hand possess. Those are slaves buddy. And I promise you that no woman who had a bunch of savages raid her village, kill her husband and son and force her into captivity and a new religion wanted to have sex with those poor excuses for human beings.......it's a survival tactic at that point. Because we all know how Muhammad dealt with people who opposed him don't we? Stupidity is you trying to make a pile of shit smell like a pile of roses. Islam makes more sense than Judaism or Christianity, I'll give you that. Hell, they had 600 years to improve upon an idea so it should be. But it is still a bunch of savage, primitive bullshit. The closest people to practicing Islam the way that Muhammad and his companions practiced Islam is isis, al shabab, Boko Haram, etc.....

[@cookpro8910]

Good luck to explain Mohamed was wrong about slavery, rape and kidnap :)

[@abdullahk9606]

Really childish mufti. More childish than those he's mocking! Sounded drunk to me too... ha ha ha ha😂