Can't Decide Between an ADV Bike or a Naked Motorcycle? Watch This

[@karlreinke]

Adding a couple things for Spite's bulletpoints: An ADV bike is better for urban commuting for 2 additional reasons: 1. Suspension travel. With our "crumbling infrastructure" the size of potholes, construction zones, speed bumps, and sunken manholes make potential bent rims a possibility and that long suspension travel more of a need-to-have rather than nice-to-have. 2. Visibility. That taller bike gives you a warhorse-like view of the battlefield which is more beneficial than you realize in heavy traffic. On cruisers and most nekkid bikes you pretty much just see the car in front of you. But on ADVs sitting tall and proud you can see over several cars. The flip side is also true. Being able to pull up along side Kyle or Chad and look them in the eye in their clapped out rolling-coal Dodge Cummins cranking 5FDP means they're more likely to see YOU as well. Basically, urban landscapes ARE the very definition of ADV riding these days.

[@joshmanwaring3848]

Roads fall into disrepair, every soccer mom out there needs an SUV or pickup truck, motorcyclists must adapt

[@evanwilcox82]

Solid arguments there.

[@seekerhunts]

"We don't think it's worth owning, but for a beginner or most people, it's worth it" this right here folks - if someone says your bike isn't worth it because something is better, just ask yourself "am I enjoying it/does it make me happy" if you can say yes, then hello, my two wheeled friend, ride on and ride safe!

[@ericrolland9092]

I smile every time I ride my 300🤷‍♂️

[@revmatchproductions]

Amen dude, love my 390 Duke to death! I laugh when i see people riding liter bikes to Walmart

[@josephlilley9249]

​@@ericrolland9092right, people act like a 300cc or 400cc bike isn't fast but in all reality, they are actually pretty damn fast wether people want to admit it or not

[@friktionrc]

The same applies to cars. A lot of my circle of family/friends know I’m into cars and bikes and know how much I hate SUVs and most modern cars which focus too much in iPad style entertainment and not enough on driver input like cars from ‘yester-year’. Thing is they always seem to seek my approval when looking to get a new car to which point I always say…listen just because I don’t like it, it doesn’t mean it doesn’t meet what you want/need/like. I happily advise on features to look out for and what the acronyms mean etc..but then remind them it’s their cash, they’re the ones buying it and will be using it on a daily basis…so my opinion counts for sh*t …..you should see their faces 😂…but it’s true. Why copy /live someone else’s dream 🤷‍♂️

[@SkylerB17]

as someone who has been thinking about moving up from my beginner bike to either a naked or an ADV bike, i can say that this video did not help me decide between the two. i guess ill just have to get both.

[@bassistoftheyear]

I feel like this is the inevitable conclusion for anyone who actually likes bikes and riding

[@MrJxKnight]

I'm between a naked that love the look or a versys 650 that I really like too and are very practical. I also love the XR650l but that's a lot modding and I don't have time to do all of it right now.

[@TeamGeezer]

I watched the video and Yammie's arguments were weak sauce. Wheelies? Track days? 99.9% of people riding will never or rarely do either. I switched from Sport/Naked bikes to Adv bikes years ago. When you get a little older and knees/ backs and other injuries start rearing their ugly head, Adv start making a ton of sense if you don't want to go the land yacht route on a GoldWing. I still have a naked bike in the garage but, it rarely gets ridden. I've been riding over 50 years and the ADV bikes beats the other bikes hands down. KTM is releasing a 490 ADV at some point in the future, Covid slowed that down but, it'll be a game changer.

[@bassistoftheyear]

@@MrJxKnight if you decide to try ADVs do yourself a favor and ride a Vstrom. It's the versys competition and imo more comfortable. They are pretty comparable in most aspects.

[@giga0524]

right here with ya bud im thinking cfmoto adventura (please do a video on this bike) and an 890 duke

[@joseph9556]

More than likely, most people who are deciding between a naked vs adv are probably not too concerned if it can wheelie or can hit 180mph

[@CaptainAstrum]

That was me for both those points 😂

[@DadsDomain]

My 450l is my "toy", my vstrom 650 is my two wheeled car and I love it and don't care what people think. Best memory was throwing the luggage on to run errands and I see a yard sale at a farm. Walked away with a $25 framing nailer, three boxes of nails and it was enough to frame my entire basement for $25. Yay for nerdy ADV luggage capacity!

[@mrhands2757]

I'm with Spite on this one, I'm proof, just have a bike, no car!! CB500X!! 😃💪❤

[@Prince-yw4lk]

Do u still have the cbx how did u find it ?

[@CGR89]

I think it’s important to be honest with yourself. I got an Africa Twin in 2017 with all sorts of plans of taking it off road and really adventure riding with it. 5 years of owning it and it never saw dirt. Ended up trading it in for a cruiser, still wanted a comfy bike but I was much more honest with where I was actually riding it.

[@sethlozeau2962]

This series literally proves the idea of “different strokes for different folks.” I like the way it turned out with nobody ever being completely correct. Ha! This proves a point for us Vulcan S riders too. Got ‘em!!!

[@christopherandersch1299]

People come in different sizes, and flavors, so why not bikes?

[@Kelly-rq4po]

Love my Vulcan S. Especially as I mod bits and pieces here and there. But at 6'3 and 230# it does feel small under me. But to that end it's still very peppy and can haul me around at 85 on the highway no issues. It is my commuter. My commute being 35 miles of 2 lane state highway @55mph or interstate @75mph one way.

[@Murad.bn2]

I plan to move to road-adventure bike from naked, for 3 reasons: 1) Suspension better suits our roads 2) Wind protection (we often have strong wind, very uncomfortable on naked even 40+ mph) 3) More relaxed riding positon, better seat, better road view.

[@goranmajnaric556]

+ no1 can carry a passager for long distance travel. no2 can carry 2 FF helmets in top case for short distance travel. Visiting some place and not carring helmets in hands is a great thing no3 can carry paniers for long distance travel. Almost replace a car. You can actualy travel somwhere with somebody. I agree on suspensions, when you hit a bump you wish you have more suspension travel cons Top heavy, tall seat, harder to manuver from the stop, especialy when having a passager, and im saying that because in this bike you will have a passager. Which i recommand you not to get too big bike for your size, and trust me when stop in middle of traffic with that thing angeled you want to flat both of your feets.

[@jeremyclutterbuck4665]

I ride a KTM 1190 adventure. Some days I have just my locking tail trunk, some days locking hard side bags, some days a small soft tail bag, some days even a bike rack for hauling my mountain bike. It has tons of performance and piles of practical options. It is the ultimate motorcycle.

[@vaportrail226]

You have a bike rack to put a bike on your bike? Man, you really love being on two's

[@MusicmanStephan]

Yam, have your production crew turn on a high pass filter (low cut) on your mics of around 80-100hz and that will control the breath plosives that windscreen isn’t quite getting.

[@earthlyng_official4599]

accurate

[@pezpengy9308]

i got a tw200 because if the roads are stopped i can just pop off into the pineapple fields and happily pass all the traffic. which ive done, on occasion. its also my daily errand bike because its easy and uses less fuel than my farm truck.

[@danielrobey1759]

I don't own one but tw's are awesome!!

[@AOTEAROAsam]

I can't believe Spite didn't also say that it's ADV is far less restrictive in terms of the the surfaces you can ride on - even in the city there can be all sorts of odd terrain. Plus you can take way better sneaky shortcuts. That's the whole reason I got a light ADV.

[@manuelestacio1836]

Adventure bikes are also less of a heat score from police. Slap on panniers and a top rack and you become invisible lol. Naked bikes have a 'hooligan' look that attracts cops.

[@JCrozier1]

Fantastic conversation. Tons of good thoughts on both sides. I very much appreciate that the V-Strom was mentioned. People forget that it's the best bike ever created. 😁🤓🤟

[@ether7118]

F**k yea!!!

[@matthewtrinh4872]

I use both as a daily commuter. I use the naked when there's no traffic on the tarmac, Then jump off and onto my ADV bike when I have to go offroad. Once I see it clearing up, I get back on the naked bike! Best of both worlds. Now, I have to figure out how to add a full fairing bike to my commute when I need that wind protection and straight line speed! He nailed it at the 6:40 minute mark. I have a Ventura luggage rack on the top of my rear seat (KTM SuperDuke R) and that's all I need for the day! Lunch, Coffee, phone, wallet, keys, raingear, etc.) Don't see the point of side panniers. That'll just add bulk while lane filtering. If it's bulky and you need that much Stuff, you might as well drive a car and sit in traffic! My bike also has cruise control, heated seats/grips and phone charger. Only regreat is that this bike was not availble to me 25 years ago.

[@matthewgarland8516]

I own a adventure bike have had it since new I bought it in 2019 the Suzuki 650 vstrom I have done over 35000ks so far and absolutely love it I do a fifo job and have to ride 460ks to get to work it’s really comfortable for long distance and I can put all my clothes and luggage I need for work for 2 weeks the v twin motor has enough power to still have fun on and handles really well in the twisties and I do a fair bit of off-road to with obviously not as capable as a full on dirt bike but the vstrom is definitely good enough for what I want to do and just explore some different tracks i feel it’s a jack of all trades kind of bike

[@AKlover]

Naked, for me. ADVs are A compromise and I have little desire to "Off-Road" nor do I wish to have to keep and change A set of tires for better performance every time I do go from street to dirt.

[@lordflash7160]

Made the switch to an ADV because where Im at the roads are absolutely terrible

[@CaptainFeathersword]

To each their own, however 1 point I will make is that right now ADV bikes are all the rage and as such are disproportionately overpriced relative to nakeds.

[@vader5454]

Man, I could listen to you guys talk motorcycles forever 🤙 I have a 2014 Street Triple. I’m 5’8, 160 lbs (small bro), so this bike is perfect for me. ADVs are awesome, but too big for me IMO. Keep up the great work guys!

[@matthatter93]

Spite! You forgot wind protection! Not gonna lie after three long trips on my naked and early morning chilly commutes led me to owning my Adv bike

[@GerhardCombrink]

If you’re older and taller, there are VERY few naked options you’d want to ride across the state, unfortunately and yes, that pisses me off.

[@juanpablogonzalezs.v.8319]

That was Halerious!! Thank u for cutting up the pod cast! It also kinda makes the pod cast a bit more tempting to watch (I don't usually like podcasts)

[@bassistoftheyear]

this truly is a why not both situation imo. I've had my Vstrom 650 for a couple years now and I love it. Panniers, heated grips, Corbin heated seat, etc make it the perfect commuter capable of going long distance. It's not fast though and since I'm not getting younger instead of a new zx6r I picked up a z900. I'd say though even after more than doubling the cost of the vstrom with accessories it's still cheaper than the z900 but not by much. After exhaust and sliders and such for the z900 it's probably 1-2k more. If I could only have one though ADV is the best all rounder.

[@222wheelsdown]

wow this video was made for me 😂 my very first bike was the ktm 390 adv and I loved it. perfect bike to learn how to ride on and plenty capable. it did on road and off road good but not great. I traded it in for my current bike a brand new mt 07 and love it! significant increase in HP and street performance. I want to now save up and get a cheap used dirt bike or dual sport. IMO having a dedicated on road bike and dedicated off road bike or atv makes more sense than getting into the ADV game. Just my 2c! obviously depends a lot too on where you live, riding style, etc.

[@Stewyzf750]

I love how you guys can simply “agree to disagree”, exactly how good mates should be - give each other a bit of stick, but respect each other’s opinion either way. I’m with Yammie though - naked bikes rule! Keep it up guys, I’m enjoying the channel. 👍

[@taliesinangling3564]

Or try to convince them otherwise, if both of them value truth they’ll discover it together.

[@Paspa1801]

For me, as a 5'6 woman, most adv bikes I've sat on were not comfortable for me and I didn't feel confident. I can get shorter naked bikes more easily. I do like the looks and function of adv bikes but the height is an issue

[@tigre7951]

For more leg reach you can buy Daytona m star gtx which gives you 2-2.5 inches in height. Hope that will help you.

[@Supadupa335]

My f650cs is super low. Idk what type of bike it is. It's base off the f650gs which is a smaller adv bike

[@Ikarus_Riding]

Try nc750x

[@cruze86]

This is exactly what i needed. I was so much confused between these two. Couldn’t decide a bit until this.

[@maverick-carsbikesracingma8686]

Same here

[@fuglbird]

7:17 Yammie Noob: "That's why I got a car". That's why we don't listen to that kid. We don't have a car. We have a motorcycle. We need to move stuff on our motorcycle. We don't care about his childish conception of aesthetics. I got my first motorcycle in 1978, a three cylinder two stroke Suzuki GT550. Then another motorcycle, then some cars and now a Suzuki SV650. You can't buy the motorcycle that you need. You buy the closest one and modify it. It's not a naked bike, it's not a an ADV. It's YOUR motorcycle.

[@mortenfransrud7676]

I rode a naked bike when i was learning to drive. It was good, fun, and lightweight. The thing is that adv bikes are so much more agile. For the size of these bikes, they're very responsive. I feel much more comfortable doing slow speeds, slipping through traffic and slaloming through the traffic jams. Turn radius is insanely good, and while many naked sportbikes can do the same, it does not "feel" right. You can feel it was not purposely built for these thight maneuvers. The adv bike, however, gives you this good feeling of "i can do this" mindset.. sometimes for good or worse. AND adv bikes are comfy for the long trips as well, and the price can be half of what those touring bikes go for. Well, if you dont buy BMW 1250gs or ducati multistrada v4, then.

[@kkiwi54]

You forgot the weather protection that most adv bikes have - always an advantage compared to a naked

[@Love4boost]

In one week I had people that don’t know about bikes think my bike was a BMW, and another thought it was a Ducati. I have a 2021 MT-09 so yeah it depends on the person. I find it great looking. I actually liked it at launch and now that it has a Puig screen on it I think it really stepped up the looks.

[@robertbecksey776]

I'm in the UK iv only ever owned naked bikes 125cc for a new rider I'm now getting the kawasaki er5 and absolutely love riding naked bikes when the wind hits you they feel so much faster 😀 it's so fun

[@matthewdemello]

I travel 70 miles to work each way in new England.. I'm not using no naked bike on the highway at 75 mph threw rain and cold.. hell no.

[@StupidFugginTiddies]

Maybe you should’ve looked up cruiser vs adventure bike.. why would a constant 70 mile trip even cross your mind for a naked bike lol

[@folkvarwolfwind]

Scrambler = king of all 😄 looks cool, communtes and adv's. This series is great haha

[@mjordan812]

Riding since 1961. Reserved a BMW 650 single for a ride in Europe in 2002. The previous renter overestimated his ability and the rental agency gave me a free upgrade to a R1150GS. Wow! Bought a DL1000 VStrom in 2003, a Tiger Explorer in 2013, a BMW G310GS in 2018 and a Guzzi V85TT Adv in 2020. You may see a pattern. And I've got a 28" inseam (on a good day). Go figure. And a lot of my rides are multi-week - so luggage space that I can lock is critical. All that being said, I just bought a Triumph Speed 400. 😁

[@andrewinvests839]

the answer is get both. I love my V-Strom but it just doesn't quite scratch the sport bike itch. I'm looking for a GSX-S now to add! lol

[@sosmotorcycles]

bought an mt10 and it was a game changer. im straight hooked. how dare you say the MT is ugly. its just unique which makes it polarizing.

[@lostwithasmile485]

I am so happy to have both a Tuono 660 and an Africa Twin in my garage! Perfect combo!

[@TheTriSec]

I just upgraded this winter - went with naked. Already a strike on me though, since Yammie doesn't like BMWs...but I bounced back and forth between an F900R and the F750GS. Wound up on the 900, primarily because I got super-lucky at the dealer and they had the exact bike I wanted to order in stock!

[@PepsiDotMacOnInsta]

Luuurvin' the light hearted view on life......I grew up on an LC350 and had two Tuonos in the end...but...now 'live' on my 660 Tenere.........We all get fat 'n old in the end !

[@Aemalloy]

Both sides have great points for two very different commutes. If I had a city commute to an office job where I could show up with nothing but a coffee in hand, a naked bike would be ideal. Defining the commuter here is critical. I do archaeology fieldwork and my commute often turns into a dirt road down a poorly maintained powerline corridor, with overgrown sections and occasional sketchy water crossings. (My car looks like heck. ) I'm less concerned with fast corners and wheelies, and more concerned with how many snacks I can fit after I pack all my excavation gear. "How much sh*t do you need..?" A LOT. :( Great points on both sides; for now I need a robust and comfortable pack mule that doesn't mind getting a little banged around but can also hang tough on the highway, but once I'm back in an office all day I will definitely have a much nimbler racehorse of a bike to let out some energy on the way home.

[@MrBrown-br7sh]

I call shenanigans on Spite's naked bike luggage claims. I have luggage for my sport bike that's compatible with its naked sibling. I've got two 16-liter saddle bags that install in about 2 to 5 seconds each. I have a sport rack that pops in place of my rear seat allowing me to also mount my 37 liter top case. Even when taking my time, swapping out the rear seat and installing it takes less than 30 seconds. That's a total of 69 liters (nice) or about 18 gallons/2.4 cubic feet.

[@Gmunder83]

In Greece and I believe most Mediterranean countries the most stolen bikes are SportTouring/ADV bikes by FAR.

[@AntonioCarvalho-mx7sm]

"Get a little big bike" That's what I did: I bought a little mini big bike (sym nh-t 125cc eu spec) for my 1st bike. Cheaper than any mt125 or z125 (actually the cheaper of that niche segment too). 1 yr later I got my license and an NC750X

[@fadecomic]

… I like the way the MT line looks.

[@Mystic-Herbalist420]

Get both. My first two bikes are my 2020 tuono factory and my 2013 Honda xr650l. Got the tuono first and wanted to get off the road so got the xr like 8 months later. Both are amazing in their respected element. Plus when you ride one for a while then get back on the other you appreciate what it is more and their differences. Just my two cents but my answer is get the tuono factory. A fully built xr650, put an exhaust on it, rejet it, fix the carb, put a better intake on it and you can go over just about anything. its way faster then the klr or other similar sized Enduros. And the tuono speaks for it's self, if you know you know lol it will be right beside a s1000rr all the way to 170 mph which is all I really need but I'm comfortable with the handle bars. there's nothing I would change except it needs an exhaust and reflashed for the race ecu. Get those two bikes and never look back lol

[@elingauer]

This is my daily monolog in my head for my next bike 🤣 1 bike garage; if you wanna go off road it's going to have to be an adv bike

[@izzy031096]

Or dual sport if you won’t be doing much highway riding and want more off-road capabilities

[@elingauer]

@@izzy031096 definitely a good choice too! I test rode a husky 701 enduro yesterday and i think I'm in love lol. Especially being up at such high altitude

[@joeljeffcoat6241]

My starter bike was a nicely modded ‘86 450 Nighthawk. It was perfect to learn on, being smooth at low rpms, and manageable. However, it was miserable on the gnarly logging roads in my area and ran out of breath above 60 mph. My second bike is an NX650. The 21” front wheel made it tricky on low speed maneuvers at first, and being a single means it requires better clutch management from a standstill, but the clearance and softer suspension eats up the logging roads and it’ll cruise at 70 all day long. It’s more comfortable on pavement, too. For me, it’s a better choice for a daily rider.

[@jeffjohansen6528]

Versus 1000 has a i4. Prob not off-road capable but gravel roads are doable so I would say it can be a adv bike

[@jeffjohansen6528]

Versys**

[@serny14]

I was thinking of the S1000XR.. but the Versys works too 😄

[@PleadTheFifth_Racing]

BOTH!! I just picked up a 2022 Honda Africa Twin Adventure Sports and now I'm looking at one of three nakeds....just can't make up my mind. 1) Ducati Streetfighter V4S 2) BMW M1000R 3) Aprillia Tuono V4 1100 Factory All three have pros and cons. All three are super powerful, have electronic suspension, decent riding positions, etc. The Aprillia sounds the best and is the most affordable. The Ducati is beautiful and has a TON of parts available but all those parts are stupid expensive for what they are. Finally the BMW M1000R being new for 2023 is a little hard to find and you wont be getting a deal on one. However the BMW is basically already completely outfitted except for maybe a de-cat and different can.

[@VitalyMack]

You already have a fantastic reliable practical bike. Go for something stupid and flashy and which can sit in a shop for a month...and go balls out and get the V4 Lamborghini. Plus with a Lambo Ducati you can part in all the VIP spots.

[@PleadTheFifth_Racing]

@@VitalyMack Lol, even if I could drop that kind of money on a bike I wouldn't, I'd rather have the regular V4S and spend the money saved on a 3rd bike!

[@damonweaver3386]

I've gotten older and I'm torn between the lush comfort of an adv and my desire to still occasionally do stupid shit on a naked.

[@seanknox3363]

I have a z900 and a Pan Am. The truth is you CAN do several hundred miles per day for 5 days on a naked, but you'll be so beat up you won't be able to enjoy most of it. Trust me, I've done it. ADVs just make more sense when you have to cover a lot of ground on the interstate to get somewhere, but can also be plenty fun when you get to the twisties.

[@roblewis7186]

My wife rides a 2020 Yamaha MT-03 and she absolutely loves it. She's only 5'1 and it fits her really well. She can't even begin to touch the ground on my old adv bike. I bought a KTM Duke 890R and got rid of my ADV because I fell in love with the naked bikes and will never go back to ADV. Just my two cents.

[@bamills6771]

Got rid of all my sport naked bikes in the last 5 years. All adventure bikes now. 700 Tenere- BMW R100 Paris Dakar. 1150GS - 1200GSA . My 1150 has over 235k miles on it. Adventure bikes have lockable bags. Way more legroom

[@fikifette115]

ADV's suspension and storage are my only concern for choosing ADV (daily commute). But then i got myself a compact naked bike because i think, i ALSO love to do a fast commute with lower center of gravity. And here in my country, bike parking area are rather for small sized scooter. So, squeezing out an ADV out of the parking lot is stressful. Either way, i love both kind of bikes.

[@robhayes8295]

Main things I agree with: 1. Naked bikes do look cooler than adv bikes 2. Adv bikes are more useful than naked bikes 3. Naked bikes are more fun on the road, adv bikes are more fun anywhere else 4. Adv bikes are heavier than naked bikes 5. Adv are much more versatile 6. Generally naked bikes are cheaper Personally, if I could afford 3 bikes I'd get a fun one, a versatile one, and a fast one. And what do I own, a bloody Versys 650 so a all-in-one ha ha

[@mitchellfox3130]

TL;DR: Spite: ADV bikes can ____. Yam: Wrong. Actually naked does ____ better. Next point... 2 minutes and I was exhausted, says a 40+ year old dad who happens to prefer naked bikes. Are all these like this?

[@alfrednegron3802]

I was once a “ZX-6R every day” guy. Now it’s Scrambler FTW, baby!

[@davidsondan7471]

THANK YOU! I have been trying to decide between the Aprilia Tuono and the Triumph Tiger. This has helped me.

[@MrUrrl]

Hate soft bags, no security. I want something with a windshield, low seat height, light weight and helmet sized lockable rear case with sport bike styling. Crazy but I want a rear rack and removable hard case for my Ninja 400.

[@adamlanglois563]

So a sport touring bike?

[@Mrbigmike311]

The reason why there is so many bike type is because there is so many type of riders! I owned three types, a sport touring, a cruiser and now an adventure bike, the adventure has been so far the best experience and the one I’ve been most comfortable with riding and testing my limitations. It’s heavier and taller, but I get to go anywhere I desire, and for me that is the purpose of a motorcycle, to be able to go places where you normally can’t with a regular car. If you are a beginner, I alway suggest going for a naked or a sport touring as these are great bike to learn from and to commute, get some experience on first, after the first season then you can think of something else.

[@dkhdkh9606]

Ummm.....commuters want to be able to carry stuff as needed, move at low speeds, stop and start in traffic. Spite was on the right track. What bike would most effectively replace a commuter car? ADV hands down. ADV are far more practical, comfortable, capable in any terrain, and loaded with features. If you are all about image and road performance, then be a 'Bro' and go along with a naked.

[@dyryb]

Jammyboob I got a desert sled because of u. It’s sick. A total Frankenstein of a bike. I ducking love it

[@hvymax]

My KLR backflipped down a 40' hill and still made it to work!

[@iskinmind7020]

One size fits all is probably the ADV bike. While it does not handle as well in city traffic as a naked bike and is generally slower, you can do pretty much everything at a 5/10 level at the very least. Naked bikes in my experience are more suited for a single rider with a light load to have fun on a good road. Few naked bikes (only larger ones) would feel at home going 2 up and with luggage. That said, most ADV riders (especially those big BMW riders) would be much better off with a proper sport touring bike. There is no point in ADV if going offroad is not on the menu, since a proper tourer or sport tourer can do everything better on a road. You have to chose your bike according to the intended use to get most out of it.

[@mikes.8305]

I have a Ducati Multistrada 950s and a KTM Duke 890R and if I have to run a short errand the naked bike is so much easier to ride around town and park. If I’m doing hour long rides the KTM is also my go to bike. If I’m doing long freeway stints or all day mountain rides I take the Multi. For me at 6’ 180lbs and handsome, naked bikes rule unless you do a bunch of freeway.

[@WAZZUjohn03]

We need to get Yammie on a Triumph Tiger in rally trim and see if that will influence a change of position. The triple engine note we know he loves, ample power to get you to felony speeds, and serious off road capability if you are not too afraid to put a few scratches on it.

[@FaetalEU]

CRF 300 Rally? The ADV segment is just just a more comfortable, better bike for people who are not afraid of heights

[@albertgjohnston]

A backpack doesn't suck! I don't go anywhere without my Ozark Trail backpack. The backpack I use is extremely lightweight, and easily fits in a shopping cart. It is my man-purse. I hardly notice it's there. The one thing I will concede is that ADV bikes are way overpriced on the secondary market. So get something that isn't a financial reach.

[@lfpmendes1]

I don't even think that it is a debate... ADV have a bit of everything you need. They are the "safest" option to choose between motorcycles. They might not be for everyone, but they fit for the majority of people. They are practical. (I own a CBR600F4i btw) Nakeds are good if you want a bike to just commute or have fun doing silly things (except maybe off road lol) and have a car.

[@rozzbourn3653]

for me it really comes down to what you will be driving on. if you are going to be on the street only, the naked bike is better suited for that. if you will have to go down a non-paved road, then an adventure bike can handle that better.

[@yodo6414]

Only the kids like wheelies, bikes are not designed for that... just ride bikes as they were interested..

[@iallso1]

I traded up from my Suzuki Inazuma 250 naked bike to a Vstrom 650 for my daily commute. The Vstrom is more than comfortable to hold its own on the motorway and has the ease of handling to filter between traffic on city streets, but it is more comfortable and provides better weather protection which is great for year round use. If I was to get the Suzuki SV650 it would only be 30lbs lighter without any other significant gains.

[@joeplem5329]

Being on the shorter side I'll never feel confident on an ADV bike hence why I ride a 2020 z900. Fits me perfectly (I'm 5'6) looks amazing imo and more than capable of scaring the crap out of you!!!

[@johnkluge3421]

I love my naked bike. I like the lack of wind protection. It gives you a better experience.

[@lucasszymanski114]

If you want one vehicle to rule them all, you probably would want a car. The crappiest car beats the best bike in a shitty rainy day in Vancouver. I'm 6'4" and I do enjoy riding my FZ07, even to work with a back pack. But I imagine on really long rides, the ADV would be a great choice. Honestly both a great. Keep up the great work.

[@alexprendido2023]

Bikes are big toys, some people don't get it. Unless u r kinda broke and only can afford a 150 as a vehicle. Bikes are expensive toys which is great, but if u want confort is stupid to buy a 20k adv Instead of a 12k car...

[@lucasszymanski114]

@@alexprendido2023 couldn’t agree with you more.

[@4nowunknown]

Living in victoria i concur, would especially not want to ride in the rain in say the middle of richmond lol.

[@richards1816]

@@keithquinn5624 squamish, turn right just before river Bridge, mamquam forest roads go for miles, plus network of shared trails with mountain bikes, off road assn.

[@michaelmarkofski4073]

I went for a year with my Aprilia Shiver 750 as my sole transportation and a large tail bag. Only time of the year was tough was thanksgiving and a 22 lb turkey

[@softgunruler]

Great series idea, can't wait for the next one!

[@bajacore]

I’m the naked bike guy converted to ADV nerd. They both make excellent points about the both styles of bike and why I like both. Honestly, it’s where the N+1 formula comes in handy. Naked bike for those in-town trips and an ADV for touring/off-road.

[@danielrobey1759]

In all honesty it is really hard for one motorcycle to do it all... I have an '11 klr, 02 955i tiger and a '98 Honda valkyrie and they all compliment each other very well...

[@bajacore]

@@danielrobey1759 I’d love to be in a position to own two motorcycles for the reason you mentioned. If nothing else, it would keep things from getting stagnant with only having one bike.

[@dashuntas.m4045]

My problem is that ADVs can cover both in-town trips and touring/off-road but the nakeds are also so much fun

[@razu1976]

ADV bikes are tall, but you only ever need to put one foot down. Tripod! Much more stable than two feet down and a wobbly bike!! Of course the correct approach is to buy both ADV and Naked. Comfort mode and hooligan mode.

[@codygoetsch]

Great points on both sides! I just swapped my Hypermotard for a Multistrada enduro because it’s a better fit for the riding I do on the straight, flat (read: boring) roads we have in south Mississippi. I do miss the hyper, but I’m loving the comfort of the multi-and I still have to check my pants every time I open up the throttle getting on the highway because this baby is FAST

[@3GingerCats]

Apple & apples. there are other perfect examples of both styles of bike with Identical engine/Gearbox combo's, but bringing down the budget a heap, the V-Strom 250SX is $7000 NZ and the GSX250 Naked with the same engine& Gearbox (249cc oil cooled single with 27hp) is $5000 NZ (The Faired version being $5500 NZ) and the main reasons for the price difference is... a USB charger on the V-Strom. and a larger front wheel, the rear wheels are the same wheel, as are the brakes, The V strom is 4 inches longer, and has a bit more size to the frame, which means normal sized Men are going to be more comfortable on a V-strom, as long as their butt can handle the much firmer rear shock, but shorter Men and most women would me more comfortable on the GSX, especially as the rear suspension is soft and cushy. As far as looks go, the GSX looks way better, if the V-Strom were to receive the styling of the GSX (and a softer rear shock), and maybe drop down to the 17" front wheel of the GSX, then many more V-Strom 250SX's would be sold and they would be even harder to get hold of, as Sale outweigh the supply everywhere they are sold!

[@marcopontil1699]

7:17: when you said "that is why I have a car". Well, my dude, then is when you meant "my naked bike failed me and I need to get to the cage". 🤷‍♂️ your words.

[@richykong2930]

I love, adventure, bikes, however, also I love the naked bikes, but for the naked bikes for me, the look with the crash guards for the frame, the engine, and the one in the back that you could use to hook up bags easier to it gives the bike an adventure like look, however it will be nice if it could do a little bit of a adventure style riding

[@andrewschultz2504]

One point I have to mention is that a adv bike like the ktm 890 is quick nimble and you can go down a gravel road without the pucker factor. You really need to ride one

[@LeadTemple]

Have nerve damage cant ride ADV bikes my foot is in a brace but thanks to this channel I did just pick up a naked bike and I can flat foot it sorry yam it's a brand new z650 and i love it to death it takes care of me. I was riding cruiser because of seat height but thanks to this channel I found the z most bikes are too high for me I hate being 5 5"

[@hvymax]

ADV!!! Ride Without Limits!!! KLR is the Honey Badger of motorcycles! KLR don't care. With the right tires I can corner inside crotch rockets. When I was QCing powerplants I would take 5-10 miles of power line trails including a mile of swamp and a 40' hill climb.

[@markchalloner5883]

T-7 and an FTR...and soon a Tracer 9 GT!!! Also, did 785 miles in two days on the FTR just this week. It can be done.

[@andrewpiercy8418]

Yam, I needed this 2 weeks ago lol. Had my heart set on a multistrada. looked at a few of them and they all seemed to have some problem or another so I ended up with a cb1000r. Extremely happy with my decision coming from a super sport. Will probably be adding a adv to the stable next!

[@andrewdreyer7765]

This competitiveness was hilarious. Good chemistry

[@JA-zh5xi]

I’m not a huge fan of the looks of either type of bike, but could totally do a Harley Pan American.

[@BlakesPipes]

RE Himalayan. Don't even own one, but plan too. Own my concours and a W800. Got cool, got long distance, need purpose with Himalayan

[@Clark24au]

Ducati scrambler...... the bike right in the middle of this argument?

[@lex1945]

There's too many old guys, riding an ADV, dressed up like they just won the Paris-Dakar rally, It is getting ridiculous..

[@RYwoodview]

Just you wait.

[@scottstewart5784]

I'm 6'3" and fit great on my 2020 Tiger 1200 (1160 cc, triple). And with 140 hp and 90 torks, quick shifter/blipper, shaft drive, 6 axis IMU, great suspension, and 90/10 tires, I can get my fix of hitting 100 in 2nd listening to that sweet triple sing. Then, when I need to eat miles, I have a great riding position, full wind protection (well, my elbows can get cold), cruise, and accommodations for either panniers or just strapping fry bags on. To say nothing of considering two-up riding. Best part? The new 2022/23 Tiger 1200 is a complete upgrade, losing 50 pounds and gaining 9 horsepower over my 2020, which already scares me.

[@monkmoto1887]

i always felt if i was taller id be more into advs but at 5"10 theyre kind of unwieldy sometimes

[@philipparana9225]

I liked my 19, but hated the heat on the xca

[@briansmith3011]

In the sense of giving Yam an aneurism, CB500X rider, totaled out. Went to replace it with a KLR, but the Kawi dealer was sold out. So I went with a Z650 and I’ve already fitted it with hard bags, a top case, and a touring screen. I’m not right in the head.

[@Doc_Roz]

I just looked at my dealer where I got my zx-14R they had 8 of them!

[@jasontd1984]

Adv is better on all fronts except it feels a bit top heavy until you get used to it. The parking lot example is nonsense though I have no issue making sharp turns at low speed.

[@North_Of_Nowhere]

Gotta say i mostly agree with Spite, I've come from a Fireblade to a Africa Twin 1100 but also have a VFR800F .... still agree with Spite and yes i've owned naked's and will continue to own them... currently looking at a previous gen MT09 SP