Can the Grid handle all these EVs? | Cody Smith, CA ISO, RC West | The InEVitable

[@MotorTrendWatch]

What did you think about Cody Smith and his thoughts on EVs & the grid 👀?

[@justinschultz4325]

It's nice to hear someone who is balanced and humble talk in an educated way. This was a great conversation.

[@JalopyJockey]

Thank you, so far I am startled by how much more reasonable and supportive the comments are on KZbin compared to FB.

[@FerrariLove18]

Great / smart guest. Well done!

[@davewhitegt]

Best episode yet. Love this content.

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

Short answer: Yes. Long answer: Yes right now, and yes with planned targets. Longer answer: Not only can it handle them, with the increase in V2L/V2G, EVs might actually *HELP* the grid.

[@JalopyJockey]

That's it. We ran out of time to really delve into bi-directional charging. That will change the game. I completely agree (if we can get the hardware and incentivize consumers fairly based on market value of their energy.)

[@AnonymousFreakYT]

@@JalopyJockey California is incentivizing school districts to switch to electric school buses, and make them all available for V2G when parked at depots - which seems like a *PERFECT* use. Use a lot of the battery (but not all) for grid use overnight, have enough for morning bus runs, (or even recharge overnight to flatten the demand curve) recharge with excess solar when parked during the day, use some for routes in the afternoon, recharge with remaining sun, then back to V2G use when demand needs.

[@justinschultz4325]

You guys should interview someone from Nitrocross. Their Group E class is awesome! Tanner Foust? Travis Pastrana? Lia Block?

[@ElMistroFeroz]

These grid arguments are based on the assumption people level 2 charge all night long, which is absurd. At that rate you get your average commute charge in less than 2 hours. In my case I slow the charger down from 32 to 5A and let it charge overnight slowly, which is the rate of an average air conditioner. If your grid can handle it, you probably live in a 3rd world country.

[@diydrivenGA]

I do something similar: charge 2x a week at 26a overnight.

[@JalopyJockey]

The average American drives 25miles a day. Lucid Gravity is promising to cover that in 5kWh. We should only be able to improve from there.

[@vancity2349]

I heard recently there is new requirement in California for EV's to be bi- directional , and of course Tesla currently is not...

[@JalopyJockey]

I believe it got reduced down to "when deemed appropriate", with no set timeline, but it is not a big hurdle for the cars. It is the hardware connecting the car back to the power system.

[@Bigperry4th]

What about the raw materials to keep making batteries for all these vehicles

[@diydrivenGA]

Same place that Dino juice is coming from...which also isn't infinite

[@johnyu88]

Debunked over and over. Batteries like Lithium Iron Phosphate chemistries already have much lower impact than NCM chemistries, and the minerals can be recycled many times over after they're extracted. Soon even friendlier chemistries like sodium ion batteries will reach the mass market. Fossil fuels need endless mining/drilling/fracking. Transitioning to BEVs would cut truck and ocean ship traffic down immensely because so much of that is just moving fossil fuels around (extraction to refining to dispensing for consumption).

[@ashishpatel350]

Don't need all the evs. Most effective way is to charge at night .

[@Krunch2020]

The best way to charge is when your rooftop solar is putting excess power into the grid. 10am to 2pm. Low losses and cheaper than nighttime rates.

[@ampedampson5140]

It would be great if you guys could wear headphones. It would help prevent you guys talking over each other. As an audio listener it gets hard to follow sometimes. Love the guests you guys are getting!

[@drjnaqvi]

Tulsa, OK?

[@lanceerickson9611]

Wouldn't it be crazy if the batteries they're using are peoples' cars and he's being intentionally ambiguous about it? The secret sauce is outsourcing battery storage.

[@JalopyJockey]

No, there are only a couple bi-directional projects throughout the country. There is huge potential for this. EVs currently represent about 1/4 of all battery capacity potential. Would be great for consumers if they could sell energy back at very high value during peak demand (only if they choose to make it available.)