Can We Really Trust Tanner Leatherstein?

We are bombarded with information everyday via social media in the handbag industry. Tanner Leatherstein has taken the internet by storm with his unconventional way to educating us about leather quality. He has done extremely well for himself, however how do we as everyday consumers process his leather information and make an informed decision on purchasing bags. Do you look for his approval before you buy a handbag? Let me tell you what I think about Tanner Leatherstein!
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[@Somehowadulting]

Comment what you think about Tanner Leatherstein's videos! For those of you who are new to my channel and wondering why I don't show my full face, I explain why here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3qYe52vqdWBa8U

[@dewilson55]

I like how he breaks down the cost of leather bags because he applies it equally to all brands. Most of the bags he takes apart come from companies with overhead (storefronts, design departments, advertising, employees, and more). The way he presents the value of a bag illustrates his overall point: people are paying thousands of dollars for a brand name. For a long time, people assumed that "luxury" bag prices were justified because of quality, and I appreciate Tanner Leatherstein attempting to point out that isn't necessarily true. I've learned about many smaller leather bag makers because of his reviews, which I appreciate.

[@desireebrown7869]

Tanner is very hermetic while dissecting the bags, which is helpful. He is not influenced by the societal allure of the must-have bag of the season. I do agree that women buy bags for more than just cost or quality - sometimes we just need the retail therapy. BUT...I will say he has changed my perspective on the word LUXURY. We've all heard of the Dior scandal, and we as a society will slap the term luxury on a piece of duct tape ( I'm looking at you, Balenciaga) I now ask myself, would I still love this bag if it weren't a "luxury brand"? Tanner has definitely left his mark on me.

[@notme1255]

@@desireebrown7869 great points! He's not influencing anyone, while he does have a business he owns, he's not actively poopoo-ing on the labels he deconstructs and then solely promoting his own. He actually has given some very good scores to brands like Coach and Salvatore Ferragamo and Portland leather, etc. Some of which (Portland, Saddleback), people could argue are in direct competition with his brand but he still gave them fair and high praise in his comments.

[@priscillam9850]

I think he has truly revolutionized the handbag industry worldwide whether we want to believe it or not. Even if his estimates were a big off, the massive price on these luxury bags, for the amount of popped stitches, bubbling glazing, hardware that shows wear within months, and leather that’s so heavily coated with a plastic film, it’s almost a slap in the face to the hardworking class. He’s been in facilities that are making LV bags while they make Polene bags, so the same lady handmade with similar leather yet one is $5k and the other is $500. I mean there’s a reason, the CEO is one of the richest men in the entire world. Even if you take everything you’re saying into consideration, the decor, the location, the employees, you don’t become a billionaire without massive extreme profits, we can cope and try to justify that our expensive LV and Prada bags are worth it, but in an objective form- by analyzing the bag, hardware and design- it will never be worth what they price it at. I love how he is lifting the “illusion of luxury.” These bags are made side by side by bags that are considered luxury, so what truly makes it luxury to people? The idea that LV and Dior provide these prestigious just by the name. It’s crazy we wear a bag with a random persons name on it- like our bags literally say a dudes name. “ Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Christian Dior” lol it’s crazy! I absolutely love tanner, i think he’s authentic and down to earth and truly just spreading the truth of how we’ve been scammed to believe we are buying luxury and quality, when you can have quality and luxury at a fraction of the price. Saving our money and the time we spent working to acquire that money, i believe he’s a hero in disguise

[@marilynmansilla8383]

I like to know whether a handbag is made of good leather and craftmanship before I splurge, so I value his perspective and knowledge on that aspect of the industry...

[@tarreemhacaruso2687]

True

[@brendaslifeafter40]

Exactly. We want to know if we are wasting our money or not

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@deborahquirantes676]

I've heard him say there is nothing wrong with buying a name brand as a status symbol. He wants to educate people that that's what they are paying for most of the time, and if status is not essential to them, maybe look into indie or mid-lux brands that are high quality as alternatives. I found that helpful and used his insights to research mid-luxury brand reviews. That's how I found your channel.

[@Somehowadulting]

Absolutely! He does a good job at it. Glad you found me. I'm dont shred bags but I do use them!

[@ABPL0522]

I enjoy his content mainly because it touches more on leathercrafting. Your regular handbag influencer just doesn’t have the same level of expertise that he has, since all they can really judge are external factors. I wouldn’t take it as a deterrent to buy the bags though. Luxury is luxury. You buy them ‘cause you can. The price is never truly going to be about the quality of the bag. Having celebrity endorsers, fancy boutiques, etc. doesn’t come cheap and brands have to pay for those somehow. If you want it, just get the dang bag. No need to justify it to anyone. Saying “It’s worth it, ‘cause it’s good quality” never convinced anyone who questions you for your expensive purchases. Even hermes, who are known for their qood quality, are pretty dismissive of complaints regarding defects and just say “It’s because it’s handmade”.

[@brendaslifeafter40]

Totally agree

[@Somehowadulting]

100% just buy the bag if you love it. I did learn alot from him but just like everything else you see online. Take it with a grain of salt and use your own judgement.

[@notme1255]

@@Somehowadulting I think plenty of people are using their own judgement finding his products online and seeing descriptions like 'lambskin' or 'togo' which you cleverly left out of your video on purpose. So yes, we should take everything you say with a grain of salt, as well.

[@msgeorgejourney]

I trust Tanner Leatherstein knowledge of leather. Would I purchase a bag designed by him no, would I buy leather from him if I had a bag company yes.

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks for sharing!

[@pixi78]

He has a bag company…Pegai

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

Noo dont buy from him 🙊

[@brendaslifeafter40]

Why not? He’s a leather expert. We are only experts buying them, not making them. Is like a buyer telling the realtor how to do their job.

[@SB_41]

Exactly. Don't get me started on the Dr. Google and Toxic Tok misinformation....

[@Somehowadulting]

I would say, not always. I've been to a LV store where the LV SA told me all their bags are made in France. I'm like uh...This one is made in Spain. I was nice about it of course. So again, we all have to do our own due diligence in everything not just bags.

[@jvnd2785]

I work with leather (like actually buying hides, cutting, skiving, hand stitching and finishing the items). And I do not consider TL a "leather expert". He has some knowledge but when he wants to make a bag, he has to pay for an in-person teacher. So, in terms of handling leather, he is very much a beginner/intermediate leather worker.

[@brendaslifeafter40]

@@jvnd2785 you said it, to make a bag, but not to know about the material. I have not had any issues with his products, great quality and i love them.

[@brendaslifeafter40]

@@jvnd2785 We all take continuous education classes, that is a good thing. As i you said, he may ask for building but not for the leather knowledge. He has that since he was a boy

[@rosannagomez8040]

It seems like he was genuine when he started but as he got famous I can see he is biased and using his platform to launch his own brand

[@cap4life1]

His videos are pure entertainment for the aspirational customer. Not to be taken as guidance from an expert. Keep in mind that his content is meant to drive sales of his own brand by contrasting the huge difference in luxury cost of materials and price to his prices.

[@MelissaAdams-Wade]

When I see his videos I always take into account that he is only talking about the cost of the materials not everything else that goes into it. I do love his videos. For me, leather quality is important. I want a leather bag to actually feel like leather.

[@Somehowadulting]

Leather quality is very important! For me it's not everything but one of them.

[@dewilson55]

But doesn't every bag maker/designer have costs beyond the materials? Most companies he reviews have storefronts, employees, advertising departments, and more. I assume that's why he focuses on the material costs alone.

[@saraothman7156]

That is a good feedback to be even better, Hope tanner sees this video, he is a great and honest guy i love him He is expert that is in the learning process like every searcher that always continues to learn and he is not shy about saying that. I still support him :)

[@IrisLA1]

Good insight that he approaches handbags like an engineer: it's all about utility and materials. I don't check with him before considering a purchase because he doesn't place a high value on aesthetics. And let's face it, handbag enthusiasts care a lot about branding. Even so, his videos make me think about what I'm really purchasing.

[@Somehowadulting]

That also applies to everything else in life. The cars we buy, the food we eat. His content is education and provokes thought. But I expect him go practice what he preach. He points on every brand review the type of leather was used and then verifies it using his expertise. But he doesn't show any of that on his website.

[@Geneawac]

I bought my wife his chanel style lambskin wallet and considered the togo briefcase for myself recently. He does label these things on his site like the briefcase is made in Ubrique which is a fancy area of Spain but it seems those fairly labelled items were not included in this video for some reason. As a man, you're right, he could be more utility based, but thankfully my wife appreciated the gift even without the logos.

[@dewilson55]

He likely doesn't cover aesthetics because that's subjective.

[@heyyjanuary5256]

I don't check if Tanner Leatherstein has done a review before I buy a bag. However, when I do bump into his content--it is a nice reminder that I am paying for a brand name and marketing and whatever else overhead comes with the luxury bag when I purchase designer. His videos doesn't stop me from buying what I like but it has definitely made me take pause to reflect on what I already have and what I wear the most. Would I buy a bag from his brand? No..but I like that hes shedding light into the leather world. I used to work in the wholesale jewelry industry and the estimates of an item will depend on how close (either proximity or having an existing relationship) a vendor has with the suppliers. And it was an eye opening experience for me to realize that the markup we pay in general for jewelry and any item really is brand recognition (I.e., marketing and merchandising) and...to some degree how that brand makes one feel. I believe Tanner leatherstein does provide a disclaimer that his estimates doesn't include the overhead costs of a bag. Great discussion and a reminder that we should buy what we love...but also it's not bad to know what the raw materials would costs to make a bag for consumers to make more informed decisions. 😀

[@Somehowadulting]

Yes I think the same. I look at the leathertainment. It's provokes thought but not gospel truth. If you love the bag, just buy it. Thanks for sharing the jewelry industry. That is another world that id love learn more about.

[@WyeChengChong-ql7lr]

I usually try to watch as many reviews of an item I'm interested in, so any information is welcome. I like that he is able to assess the leather quality and let us know if a company's claim of real leather is true or false. At the end of the day, I will buy a bag because I love the design, it looks good on me, will be durable, carefree and functional for my lifestyle. I'm willing to compromise on some of those factors if I love the bag enough ( for example buying lambskin/sequinned bags, buying a mini bag that holds just the basics or a bag that has fussy opening but knowing full well those will be occasional bags rather than everyday bags). I know TL doesn't like leather with heavy finishes (eg saffiano/caviar) but I personally like them because I feel they are carefree. I had a look at his bags and I don't mind dupes but unfortunately nothing appealed to me. I appreciate that he doesn't heavily promote his bags and it is more a hint/suggestion. At the end of the day, he has a business to run so I don't mind the subtle promotion. Its no different from youtubers doing sponsorships or getting commission from links.

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks sharing your thoughts! I don't think it's a bad thing to promote your own brand but I think he needs to differentiate his products. The fact that he has bought so many bags that have been popular. He can learn from designs and what's appealing to the hangbag community. but his products aren't very appealing (many of you agree) he has sooooo much potential. It's a missed opportunity imo. He does share how much his bags cost which is nice.

[@jessicaallison8981]

I have very much come to rely on Tanner’s expertise when choosing a bag. If I spend thousands on a purse, it’s because I expect it to be higher caliber materials & craftsmanship- otherwise i can almost always find a similar design for a MUCH more reasonable price. Tanner’s vids help me decide if I’m paying for something that will truly be a legacy item, or if I’m paying for perceived prestige, forced exclusivity and marketing budgets (none of which I feel I need to contribute to). I can then make my decision based on all of the factors. And yes, sometimes that means buying a “vegan leather” Vivienne Westwood, simply because the design is unique and I’ve fallen in love. 😂

[@gabrielp931]

I own a small startup high end handbag company based here in NYC. His pricing is ridiculous (full grain leather at $3/ per square feet! this is absurd). My full grain leathers alone start at $30/ per square foot material only. On top of high end linings, stainless steel hardware, fabrication labor cost, etc. It'll be a challenge for small business like us to justify our expensive price structure.

[@Somehowadulting]

Ooohhh thank you so much for sharing! That's great insight on the pricing. I did look around at wholesale leather prices out of curiosity and the math didn't make sense to me. But I didn't know enough to comment on it. Please share your company if you are comfortable sharing so we can learn more. Or feel free to DM me on IG.

[@notme1255]

@@gabrielp931 Doesn't he and his family own a tannery? That probably affects the pricing since he has his own way to source materials directly. Just to be fair.

[@missemarie1]

exactly, I completely disregard his materials and labor cost bc its unrealistic unless your doing massive volume, which some of the more well name brands are doing, but smaller brands don't have the buying power. I just want to know if the quality is decent.

[@DL-idk]

I think the location also plays a role. If he can source his leather /the materials for their tannery from a county with much cheaper production cost, then his estimate would totally make sense. But not everyone has the resources to do that. I imagine most small businesses would try to get whatever they need locally before trying to source them elsewhere.

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

Finally, someone who agrees with me about it. His pieces are poorly made tpo. Like something you'd see being sold in one of those dime a dozen "leather shpps" in tourist spots like Venice and Florence 🙊✌🏻

[@__jelly]

Cant wait to see the dedicated review video! Also im in a similar mindset. I like his videos, mainly because there isnt many luxury dissecting content out there. Its interesting to see his perspective with his experience however at the end of the day i have my own preferences. I also like that his videos get consumers to have a different view of a variety of brands especially with all these price hikes as he does introduce some smaller brands. I thinking shedding some insight on "luxury" brands leather quality, whether its positive or negative, is a good thing to have consumers make a more thoughtful purchase as well as alternative avenues for those purchases as well.

[@Somehowadulting]

Absolutely! I appreciate his content because it provokes thought and encourages critical thinking. I definitely do not take his opinions as the gospel truth. I am glad he does a lot of indie brand reviews regardless if he endorses them or not. The general handbag consumers need to be exposed to the variety that is out there. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

[@bagsandlifestyle]

I don’t look for approval from him before purchasing. I enjoy his videos. I agree that he should add more to his website. I’ve made the decision not to purchase from several smaller companies because they haven’t provided enough images or details in the description. Since is “marketing” tactic is to be the leather expert I expect more information about the products on his website. At a minimum every company should provide the type of leather and animal it is coming from. Also, there should be detailed images of the entire bag included in the product listing.

[@Somehowadulting]

That's what we all look for since everything is sold online. I think showing more pictures will only help his website and sales!

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 this is something he did not do!

[@idaranwa4370]

Thank you for sharing your thoughts on this topic! It was interesting. I do enjoy Tanner’s insight on leathers and he does extensive research on a lot of brands. I’ll admit I thought this video was going to be about you actually talking with Tanner on his perspective. KZbinr my perspective actually interviewed him. It was interesting. Maybe in the future, you can interview him as well.

[@Somehowadulting]

That would be interesting! I have a lot of questions and would love to interview him.

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

​@@Somehowadultingplease ask him VERY specific questions about his tannery experience, name of company his family owns or is affiliated with, etc. How long did he "train" and work there and if he used to make pieces for Pegai before he outsourced production.

[@Somehowadulting]

@Luxuryguideinternational pretty sure he won't talk to me. 😂 I haven't tried to talk to him tho

[@mwedzi]

I do check him to see if he reviewed a bag I'm interested in. His opinion won't determine my decision, but I do like to know the bag's leather is not totally trash, lol. But I agree with you about leather craftsmanship vs. fashion. I prefer sleek designs over the rough cowboy aesthetic, lol.

[@Justme-x4h]

I never look at him before purchasing a bag. Honestly, I don’t see him as an expert in general. He had been very good at building a channel, it was something new. But as a bag lover that is purchasing bags for more than a decade, to me it’s really not just about the leather and craftsmanship, fashion is a whole world. I take it with a grain of salt, but I’m also the type of person that will dig deeper and I will never rely on only one opinion.

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@HandbagFoodie]

Really interesting points! There are so many different reasons, in addition to leather quality, that people go for certain bags. So interested in your side by side comparison of the two bags! Can’t wait to see it!

[@Somehowadulting]

Yes quality is important to some people, others not so much. Tons of people buy from temu...lol

[@mrsleyva]

Nikki, this was such a fun video to watch. Even though I love watching his videos destroying the handbags he is def not a source I go to for my final decision making. I do think he makes some valid points on his video but like you mentioned in the beginning there is alot he doesnt take into consideration when discussing the 'fairness' of price. Also as a 'leather expert' you would expect leather details on his pieces from his website 🫠 Cannot wait for your review!

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks May! I think you and I know exactly what we think is good/suitable for us or not, purely on our extensive experience with so many bags over the years. He does provide good info for people who aren't as well versed. Yes that was my biggest issue with his products. He critiques other brands based on their website description of the leather but then he has nothing on his own website. His style and design is subjective. But having basic info on his website is objective. Yes! Review will be coming soon! 😊

[@ThePandaSMASH]

I don't look for approval or base my purchases on any influencer in the market or even people in my own life. BUT, I will take their suggestions and expertise into consideration. Tanner is good at his craft, but he does not know everything, nor does anyone else. A subject matter expert will miss things in their expertise often, if they do not understand what draws in customers. An LV Neverfull bag is $1960 for a piece of canvas, and some leather strips. That's all you're getting. But you are not buying it because it's canvas and some leather strips, you're buying it because it's LV and it's on trend. Or was. BUT, he is bringing to light how sooo many people say these luxury brands are sooo much better than the mid price point options or the lower price points as well, and showing us that it just is not true. At a certain point no matter what leather you use, that handbag is only worth so much, and the rest is payment for that brand's upsell. For some people that is a hard line, and for others it's not. But thankfully he IS bringing it to the light and letting people know half of these luxury brands are just padding the wallets of their billionaire owners and playing us for fools.

[@lilyand]

He does offer something interesting and thought provoking in the luxury leather accessory space. But as someone who is more into the fashion and aesthetics side of things, during his price breakdowns the thought of 'ok how about accounting for the price of hiring a whole team of top fashion school graduates and a idk...Hedi Slimane/Phoebe Philo etc 😂' sometimes slips in my head.

[@dewilson55]

Surely most leather companies, and especially the mid-priced brands he seems to favor, hire people to design their bags.

[@Somehowadulting]

I guess the price difference example is between hiring a Thomas Kelly from the French laundry vs someone who is a rookie chef in the restaurant industry. Yes I will bring every conversation back to food 😂

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

Also OP, you are right. His website shows NO details about some of the leathers he uses!!

[@msbnjklbnmjkln4482]

he also said about lv cost for make brand luxury marketing experience luxury etc

[@rosannagomez8040]

I purchased a card holder from him and it was stiff. I don’t use it

[@Somehowadulting]

Interesting! Thanks for sharing! Stay tuned for my review on his bag!

[@mbelieve9919]

I enjoy Tanner’s videos and the information on leather and construction. I also think your perspective here about how design, aesthetics, heritage and the large overhead expenses of fashion houses ( like rent, etc.) are great points too.

[@Somehowadulting]

Leathertainment as he says! Ripping up bags is definitely a wow factor. As much as big luxury is ridiculously priced, their overhead is extremely high compared to indie brands that sell solely online. They say luxury brands is too expensive but think of all the decor, runway shows, the janitors they have to pay. And of course, they want to make a profit too. If you don't care about any of that, then buy from the indie brands that still has amazing products.

[@M.i.L.F_and_Coffee]

VEGAN LEATHER BAG = IKEA shopping bag Only REAL LEATHER will touch my azz. NO PLASTIC !

[@Somehowadulting]

😂😂😂

[@ElenaWeber-q4o]

I, personally, dislike it when new manufacturers (like Tanner's company, in this example) copy other big names designs instead of creating something new and unique. Why add more dupes? We have enough of them already. Create something truly yours!

[@Somehowadulting]

We've seen big luxury all end up copying each other at some point too. Personally, I'm ok with dupes here and there but when half of your collection is dupes, not the biggest fan. I do believe in getting the similar look for less!

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

​@@Somehowadultingtruth

[@aliciascorner4902]

I would take what he says with a grain of salt he might be knowledgeable from that perspective, but I also have my own opinion. I watched maybe one to two videos of his prior to me already having my luxury items and I don’t agree with some of the things he says.

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks for sharing your perspective!

[@ShweMyaukMyauk]

Only people who don’t have much experience with buying bags will buy into him. He has his own agenda obviously

[@Somehowadulting]

Yes, not everyone is as obsessed with purses as we are. I think he's doing more good than not. We all have to use our own judgement and form our own opinions whatever we see online.

[@dewilson55]

I disagree. I think only people who have themselves convinced luxury pricing is justified will have an issue with his content.

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

Bingo!

[@juditegoncalves7066]

Hello! I find your videos super useful and have been devouring each and every one of them. Love how you find all these indie brands, some of them true gems! I was wondering if you've come across Coccinelle handbags?

[@Somehowadulting]

Thank you for the kind words! I have never heard of Coccinelle..will have to take a look at them. Did you purchase a bag from them?

[@juditegoncalves7066]

@@Somehowadulting nope. Farfetch is suggesting I do, though 😂 I like several of the designs (the colours too, although most don't really go with most of my wardrobe) But I have no idea about the quality

[@SP-oj1ej]

Please adjust your camera so your head is on the screen.

[@dewilson55]

I'm sure she wants anonymity, but it's definitely distracting.

[@MN-rx5ni]

I watched some of his videos in the past. I stopped when they all turned into the same formula of "designers are ripping you off, I can do it better". I know that most of the luxury item's price is the label, can we get over it? 🙄 Also, YT deleted my comment from your previous video. I loved the bowler bag from W Concept and I'm expecting a delivery!

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

He shits on most leather bag brands to promote his own brand 😂

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

NO. I don't think he is trustworthy. Do people not research at all anymore? He SAYS he has tannery experience thru his family but there's no proof. And if he is an expert, he didnt need to learn about craftsmanship from someone else, that guy in switzerland who seems to make better pieces and know leather better would have been more qualified to be an expert. Worst part is Tanner puts down many brands because this gives him room to also push his own brand. This is genius marketing but its a scam. Tanner also said he works with factories in Turkey and Spain? So that means he does not even make his own products. And why did he never dissect his own pieces? How no one sees thru him is mindblowing to me 👻😊

[@janet8182]

You have my respect! I always love both sides of the arguments or POV. I also feel that artistry has a value too and should not be totally ignored. I feel Leather Surgeons estimates on branded goods are way too low. However, I do appreciate his video and take it with a grain of salt considering my own aesthetics and appreciation for artistry. Good balance opinions. New subscriber here :)

[@Somehowadulting]

Welcome! Glad you found me! Majority of us are only consumers at the end of the day. We may not be leather experts but we know what's the most important to us.

[@birkinboy3976]

Hi Niki great video I felt this was an extremely fair yet comprehensive review of his brand and where and what his specialty is I totally agree with the analogy of he’s a contractor doesn’t make him an interior decorator it’s extremely obvious that he has very limited fashion sense I think I trust his review of leather types and quality of those types but you’re right he doesn’t discuss the brand history or the overhead involved so I concur trust his opinion with leather and leather types everything else with a grain of salt 💚💚💚

[@BossLadyGrady]

I always go to Tanner’s YT videos prior to purchasing a “luxury” bag for his expertise on the leather as I respect his expert analysis. You referred to his collection as dupes but most brands including contemporary brands and more affordable brands do the same so that doesn’t bother me. Personally, I’m more interested in the leather quality and the craftsmanship. If I like the style of the bag and the color coupled with the leather and craftsmanship it’s a win. But in no way am I spending thousands of dollars on a handbag that I will most likely tire of in 2-3 years.

[@brendaslifeafter40]

I do check his reviews before buying. Some brands are an investment and it’s hard to get the money to then waste it. I have buy his products and love them.

[@Somehowadulting]

It's definitely worth checking out his reviews! But also do your own research, such as the return policy on the bag you buy. If it's not what you expect, then you have an out to get your money back.

[@longchamped]

Great video. No, I don't check Tanner before I buy a bag. Tanner talks about what he terms leathertainment a lot and that's what he is, an Entertainer influencer in the leather space. However he ain't the handbag equivalent of consumer reports because he owns his own handbag company and will always have his own agenda because of it. It becomes really obvious in videos like his latest one about The saddle stitched Hermes wallet. I found it a bit disingenuous when he turned the video into whether HE himself should offer a saddle stitched wallet, subconsciously equating himself to Hermes. I think I hurt myself from rolling my eyes.😂 To misquote a famous debate, I know Hermes. Hermes is a friend of mine. You, sir, are not Hermes.😂

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts and opinions! I saw that reel..I was like huh interesting...you're comparing your leather crafting work against Hermes. That's a bold move. That's before I got the tpm dupe. Now I have many thoughts about his claims that he can do the same. To be fair, we all have a goal when producing content. We are all selling something at the end of day. I'm selling myself on my channel right? We sell ourselves to a potential employer etc etc.

[@notme1255]

What qualifications exactly would he need to compare then? Is he not a leather craftsman like an Hermes craftsperson? He is successful enough to own his own business. This kinda comes off as pooping all over another creator because you have some personal issues or jealousy going on. He clearly worked long and hard to get his brand and create his success. What company do either of you own and run successfully? Nobody's perfect but dang, this comes off so disingenuous and just... Catty? Cliquey? Ick.

[@longchamped]

@@notme1255 Tell me that you are a Tanner stan without saying so 😂 He himself admitted that he just learned how to saddle stitch recently from Peter Nitz so no, he is not a Hermes craftsman. 😂

[@notme1255]

@@longchamped Saddle stitching is only one aspect of all leather craft. And you don't know how to make an actual argument if all you can do call me names like a "stan". Get a real argument and don't be so hostile over a differing opinion. Seems like you jump at the opportunity to bully others online over one aspect of an entire nuanced issue.

[@cap4life1]

@@notme1255not all leather craftspeople have the same degree of skill … 😊

[@Buttercookiesssss]

Agree, I only review his videos when I want to fact check the quality of a certain brand. Just take his videos with a grain of salt, to be honest, I don't like the design of his own products 😅 I buy a bag mainly bc of the design, quality second

[@Somehowadulting]

Interesting! I love how everyone has a different hierarchy of priorities when purchasing a bag. Makes me think about how I look at bags too

[@kham6006]

Well I guess so much overhead went into Diors book tote- lol

[@Somehowadulting]

I don't think it was ever confirmed the $57 dollar bag was the book tote? Unless I missed something?

[@holxy]

I am a leather lover and bag lover so of course his work was interesting to watch couple of times.. But it is pretty useless to watch as do I really need the acetone test ? do I really need to know about the inside stitching etc.. when we (women) choose a bag for various reason . We consciously overpay some bags just because we love something about it and often we are not even wearing it , but we still love it. I dont think he can understand that so if he tells me how some Loewe bag is having average lining or the leather is tanned in a bad way that is not going to convince me not to buy if I really love the bag. 😄🤩 So all in all useless, his nickname is ridiculous , those bags he is selling are sad looking (having said that, I dislike APC bags, Sezane and others..) and voilà. 🤩

[@Somehowadulting]

Thank you for sharing your perspective! I enjoy reading everyones logic and reasoning!

[@BeautyLuxeLover]

Not to mention his name is super sus… that’s like me going out at Baggy McBaggerson 😂 give me a break!

[@dewilson55]

It's obviously for anonymity and a play on words.

[@Luxuryguideinternational]

Lol the big question is, he said he is a Tanner but WHERE did he work or train as a tanner? No mention of that at all anywhere. Even in interviews he had with NYT etc. Mega sus!!

[@janafigallova9458]

No, I would never go to check if he made a review. Every sane person should know that the creation of a bag doesn’t cost $2-3K. Clearly there is a marketing, brand, paying for all the stores and flagshipstores all over the world, paying the SAs, and designers who came up with the design. It takes decades to build a brand. Also making dupes of somebody’s design is just awful.

[@Neetabeeta1972]

Great video! I actually went to his website to check out his items some months back out of the same curiosity and was not impressed just like you on its surface 😂. I’ll be looking for your comparison of his Evelyn and yours.

[@Somehowadulting]

I'm excited to film that video soon!

[@Duchesse_Justice]

I’ve only watched a handful of his videos. Honestly, not a fan. I won’t go out of my way to find him. He’s got as much right to be here as I do, so I won’t bash him, I just won’t watch.

[@constitutionalcarrot3720]

Brave queen slay! I get downvoted any time I mention his connections to the fakes industry only because it touches upon his admitted affiliations and the nationalities of each. Not going to go into it here at length, suffice it to say that we women in the luxury space give a bit too much credence to men looking to invade our spaces, and some soul searching might need to be done to the same extent we wish our SAs would treat us the same as our husbands….

[@Geneawac]

What kind of connections?

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks! Yea, what kind of connections, I must have missed that? I can see that. My mom would say, it's easier to take a women's money than a man. Men or people in general will take any opportunity to capitalize on that.

[@jhw0101]

I laugh whenever he estimates the cost of leather, he uses the same unit cost across brands, it’s like saying the fabric cost for Zara is the same as the fabric cost for Chanel, even the layman knows that is not true. There is a huge difference in the leather used by brands, Hermes uses the best leather, and they only use the best portion of the calf, hence more scraps.

[@Somehowadulting]

Yes, nothing is ever a one size fits all!

[@dewilson55]

He tests the leather to get an idea of its quality and finishing details and then gives a price based on what he learns. He doesn't use the same price across all brands.

[@HereIGoAJen]

I looked at the bags on that website. Meh. Not my style. Very rustic as you mentioned. Just not something I’d purchase. I also agree about vegan leather. It’s basically no better than fast fashion because no matter how nice of a piece you get be it jacket or bag it lasts a year and starts peeling. I learned that lesson the hard way with a quilted Moto jacket that I absolutely loved and paid far too much for only for the shoulder to start peeling a year and a half after I got it.

[@doguina8748]

Hes not the one who hides his face... 🤔 So I can def trust him more than you 🤷‍♀️ it feels very unauthentic to be on your video without being on your video....

[@Tinker_is_judging_you]

She got shot in the eye when she was a kid.

[@AnUrbanGypsy]

Heard about him but never watched him. As you say, he talks about leather but not about fashion so whilst he sounds interesting, his views wouldn’t influence me in the purchasing of a bag.

[@Somehowadulting]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Aieshoo]

Where is your face?

[@rosabearr]

Stick to your gin’s and always try your gut

[@ryeofoatmeal]

ooooohh this is controversial video but you did a great job on giving out your honest opinion. tbf many people likes him but I did find some creator doesn't like him. I think many people also may not aware that he has his own brand 😂 but anyway, I never visit pegai website but damn you're right, as a leather expert he could have been stated that what is the leather, the weight. that is the most basic thing?? I can even found this info in fossil website lol. and the colours omg those look very old fashioned?? looks like in the 80s I would say. very bright and neon. yeah he excel in mans bag but not women... he can stay in man's wear but stay away from women bag lol

[@notme1255]

@@ryeofoatmeal honestly this is so sexist. It's the equivalent of telling a woman to stay in the kitchen.. At least he's trying to create more styles, and if you don't like simplistic styles that's fine but plenty of minimalist people enjoy them too. Also, he does state lambskin or Togo leathers etc. She just chose to ignore that on his site to make her argument look better than it actually is. Just starting drama for views probably. You should check out his site and see for yourself instead of believing everything you see from one KZbinr.

[@saraothman7156]

Why are you scared to show your face ?

[@terrijames1]

I definitely appreciate his content more than these types of videos from people who have no real expertise.

[@Somehowadulting]

Its definitely not my career. But I do have experience with purchasing and using bags over 200 bags in my lifetime. This is my perspective as a consumer which ultimately is who he's selling his bags/products to.

[@cristinavillegas6357]

Your face is cut off

[@notme1255]

Why are you pooping all over another creator who built his own successful brand? Then evaluating his leather bags like you have years of experience in leather craftsmanship equal or greater than his experience? He literally has togo lines of leather that are clearly labeled and advertised that way, but it seems you purposely ignored that or left it out entirely. And Togo is essentially equal to Hermes in some ways. He also has used his wife in multiple videos to get a "woman's perspective", and he did all "all weather test" on the Dooney bags recently. He's testing the claims about the leather because he's a leather craftsman, not a designer label snob. This just seems so unfair, cancel-cultute-y,... Cliquey, jealous, bashing others, catty, etc. just ick.

[@Somehowadulting]

Yes. I'm so jealous.

[@notme1255]

@@Somehowadulting 🤣 yeah I can tell by your response that you're completely unaffected by other people's success or differing opinions. Real mature for someone "adulting".

[@YU-ee8rh]

@@notme1255 At least she didn’t launch a personal attack on him like you did to her. Be constructive.

[@notme1255]

@@YU-ee8rh How is a description of clear 'mean girl behavior' considered a personal attack? I provided examples of her lying or omitting information about his products on his website and yet I'm the one launching unfounded attacks at people? Sure..

[@YU-ee8rh]

@@notme1255​​⁠​⁠ A clear "mean girl behavior"…? Interesting. Why don’t you check your comments again? 😅

[@melynbiend760]

Can we as consumers TRUST you??????? You have no expertise.

[@Somehowadulting]

Maybe maybe not. As I said, I'm coming from a perspective of a consumer. Just a discussion!

[@tarreemhacaruso2687]

Owww. Nice discussion ❤I subscribed based off of this video and I’ve watched your videos before

[@Somehowadulting]

Welcome welcome! Glad youre here!

[@kklvoescc]

His videos are very entertaining but I do agree can be misleading in that his estimated prices do not account for so much of the other elements to include when pricing. I think you did a great job trying to make an unbiased review on him and his brand. Can’t wait to see your comparison! 🤎🤎🤎