Canon R5 II vs R5C Battery Life - Surprising Results!

[@moorememoriesvideo7070]

Just used this battery for the first time at a wedding yesterday with the R5C- no more worries after disconnecting from the gimbal/power bank setup for a while. Huge game changer!

[@WildHorseProductions]

80 to 90mins on the R5c is game changing isn't it? I used to have to worry it ran out after just SWITCHING IT ON for 30mins.

[@DavidEllsDP]

Big reason why I returned the R5ii to preorder the c80

[@BrianSellers]

Who knew the secret to unlocking the R5C's awesomeness for handheld shooters was... a new battery? Seems so obvious now! As an R5C wedding filmmaker, I just shot my first wedding this past weekend on the R5II, and I really liked it. The intelligent AF is ridiculous, CLOG2 blows CLOG3 out of the water, and having IBIS is super-helpful when shooting with non-stabilized lenses, and the whole rig was so much lighter than having a v-mount on the R5C. And I was actually happy with the battery life on the R5II, going through only about 4 batteries for an entire 12-hour wedding day. I'll have to get a couple more to use with my R5Cs as b-cams!

[@CreativeHub-r8y]

Josh! you just got my sub, I've watched t0o many of your videos and learned so much that i started wondering why i've not been subscribed.

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks for the support!

[@jimmystewartuk]

The more reviews out for the R5II, the more it adds value to the R5C. I really hope Canon makes a mark II to their slow raising beast of a camera! 🔥

[@PizzlesTechTime]

Wow this is a really cool little hack. Thanks Josh You're the man as always.

[@averagejer]

Great video again Josh! Commenting for the algorithm.

[@mauricioramos5981]

Log 2 is superb. Quick fix but 2 battery packs . When they are available. Love my mkii r5

[@brettthemonster]

It is kinda weird how much of a miss the R5II seems to be. Glad to be an R5C owner.

[@justinhofstadler6398]

As a R5C owner, I’m pleasantly surprised! I just ordered a pair of the new batteries. Just to be clear, during your test the R5C was not in low power mode, right? Thanks for doing all of these tests!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. Correct, not low power mode. Low power mode doesn't really do anything with the new battery. Please check out the other video where I demonstrate and explain this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5Opq3iKbbRkh7M

[@onlysublime]

did you have prerecording enabled on the R5ii? from my experience, when prerecording is enabled, continuous AF is also enabled which makes a major impact on battery life. On previous Canon cameras, I rarely had continuous AF enabled because I noticed it would constantly focus even when I wasn't recording or taking photos. I do understand that for prerecording to be useful, it needs to be focused or otherwise, the prerecording footage would be blurry. Also, with prerecording enabled, even when you aren't recording, it's actually capturing footage and then when you do record, it drops the footage down onto the card. I didn't do your kind of testing. I was just using the camera in the real world. So when I was just walking around with the camera, I could hear the lens focusing even when I wasn't recording.

[@Josh_Sattin]

I did not have precording on but that wouldn't matter for a straight run time test like I showed in this video anyways.

[@JorgeLeonardoMartinez998]

Hey Josh! I have a quick question, I just bought a canon r5c and I need advice on what canon rf zoom lens would be best for me. Im shooting in my garage the subject is a clothing item and the background is concrete floor. I need both the subject and background to be tact sharp and in focus. I’ve read that a lower f stop lens would not be ideal for me because a lower f stop means more blurred background. So what do you think? Thanks in advance

[@LukeDusenbury]

Tech question: can you recharge the new batteries via USBC PD going into the usbc port of the r5c?

[@MrKommka]

Hello, I have been searching for information on the Internet in manuals for 30 minutes. But I did not find how to increase the brightness of the upper display on the camera? Tell me how to do this

[@lukapogo]

I think some of it has to do with the IBIS module being constantly on in the R5II, even when the IBIS is set to off, the camera is still supplying power to the module to keep the sensor centered. You can hear the floating sensor when you turn the camera off and shake it. (this is also the hum you hear if you put your ear to the camera while it's on) Who knows. I also wonder how much the eye control EVF affects this, i found it does impact the photo taking abilities on the II, but with the lack of polish in the R5II firmware, it wouldn't surprise me if the IR tracking sensor within the EVF wasn't turned off when switching to LCD.

[@Guillaume9]

Hello, have you tested the battery life with the new firmware, just tested it and with stab and AF my R5II now works with a lp-e6P 1h42 minutes instead of the 1h20 max before and overheating seems improved too

[@Josh_Sattin]

I am on firmware V1.0.1. I would assume that you are not in the 4K Fine mode. The camera will run longer in some of the other modes. I am working on a video about that right now.

[@Guillaume9]

@@Josh_Sattin Sorry I Saw my error when I started m'y r5ii, I thinked I was in fine thé all way😅

[@paulengle5784]

Josh, I’m really glad you put together that video on how to create a very minimal/light R5C rig setup with the cage + v-mount battery/battery holder. For hybrid/casual video shooters, I don’t think the R5II’s battery performance will be a make/break issue, but it seems like vmount battery for any serious shooting is the way to go.

[@Josh_Sattin]

Yeah V-Mount batteries are always a good idea for long shoots!

[@mTurnaviotov]

@@Josh_Sattinby the way- did you tested M2 with power deliveries from V mount via type c? Seems that camera not charged when you use it, only on off state . So seems you can’t power it via type c and record unless it’s overheating.. can you test it?

[@Josh_Sattin]

@@mTurnaviotov I am testing out USB-C with regards to overheating. I don't understand your question though. I don't think the camera will charge the internal battery while the camera is on, but it will power the camera.

[@kernzilla]

very interesting, thanks for confirming. Esp with new/more efficient battery, pretty surprising it barely makes it past an hour. what's the why here, attribute this to the energy requirement of CLOG2 vs 3? technically it is working harder to capture more DR/data than R5C in clog3. might be able to derive a correlation with the different bit rates 🧐 keep up the good work!

[@Josh_Sattin]

You're welcome. No idea what's going on here, just reporting my observations.

[@kernzilla]

@@Josh_Sattin totally get it 👌 this will prob be my new 3am + 30 open tabs obsession now 😆

[@r0zbu944]

Miss you when u used to do farming hope you’re doing well man❤

[@Josh_Sattin]

Thanks! Doing well!

[@BrucePhung]

Hey Josh. This question is about the EOS R5C. It is possible to assign button #8 to AF Frame size to "Small". I have my R5C set to AF Frame to " Whole Area" I want to be able to switch on the fly from Whole Area to "Small" Button #8 AF Frame > there is no such option to select Small. Can you please tell me how can I quickly select Whole Area to Small. Thanks.

[@Josh_Sattin]

I'm not sure if you can. I tend to use either whole area AF or whole area AF with human detection or full manual focus.

[@EpicNovA97]

Whilst the recording time itself might get worse battery life, if you need to do any sort of stop start shooting at all, there’s no chance the R5C will keep up on just the LPE6P battery. People continue to underestimate how much the R5C drains just on standby and in the menus, it’s close to unusable. If you’re just gonna record as soon as you turn the camera on then you can make do but for any kind of run/gun shooting it’s just not gonna happen

[@csound55]

Having the camera actually recording or in standby uses the same amount of power therefore if an extra 50% of runtime with the LPE6P battery is around approximately 90 minutes what’s the problem?

[@EpicNovA97]

@@csound55 it just doesn’t, you haven’t used both cameras

[@csound55]

@@EpicNovA97 I own & have been using the R5C for 18 months

[@EpicNovA97]

@@csound55 I feel bad. I Upgraded from the R5 to the R5C about 6 months ago so I had 12 months more firmware updates than you and still after using the R5II for just 10 mins I knew it was a no brainer for anyone that isn’t a sole video shooter

[@csound55]

@@EpicNovA97 No doubt the R5ll is a very good camera but after using and getting used to the R5c cinema operating system I’m not wanting to go back to a non dedicated video OS.

[@madebyjonny7637]

The issue I had with the R5C was that if you have it not recording it still drains the battery quickly. From what i can see with the r5ii this isn't the case?

[@ViciousXUSMC]

Was fixed in a patch, read the patch notes. Also before that patch the "hack" was to go into photo/video review mode. That would prevent excessive battery use between takes.

[@madebyjonny7637]

​@@ViciousXUSMC it still wasn't great after the patch, for me at least.

[@jaymcallister8613]

@@madebyjonny7637 Yeah. It's definitely not fixed after the patch. The R5C still saves substantially more battery when switching to review mode between shooting. I believe this is due to the way the cinema OS reads from the sensor at full 8k resolution at 60fps and doesn't switch to a lower power draw sensor read after inactivity.

[@madebyjonny7637]

@@jaymcallister8613 yeah that's what I read to. I could never remember to keep going to preview mode when shooting, I did use external power for the most part for client shoots so it wasn't a huge problem, but it did mean I didn't take the camera out for personal use often.

[@mly426]

Hi Josh, just wondering does the new battery run in the R5C BG-R10 battery grip as well?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I don't have that grip, but a few viewers said that it works and you get the expected run time of the two batteries.

[@jackmen4]

Is the r5II weather sealed without the grip fan? Or is it technically not weather sealed at all because of the side fan holes.

[@onlysublime]

it is considered weather sealed and at the same level as an R5. the fan holes don't actually lead to exposed electronics. If you shine a light into the vent, all you see is silver plating.. when you have the fan grip, it doesn't expose it any further. The reason the fan grip doesn't work as well as you would imagine is that what it does is blow away ambient heat coming off the metal plate. I'll use the R5 or V10 as an example (well, maybe the R5 isn't a good example because it's hard to overheat now). If you use them in an enclosed room with non-flowing air, they will heat up. If you use them outdoors with flowing air but the same ambient temperature, they will not heat up as much and that's because the flowing air will essentially whisk away enough heat. But again, while the R5 and R5ii are considered weather sealed, that doesn't mean you should work in torrential rains. Even with the 1DX series, you should be using a rain hood.

[@avx111]

So annoying how Canon doesn't let you shut off IBIS and use just the lens IS, it's long overdue.

[@jimmystewartuk]

Does IBIS truly shut off on other cameras though? Just curious…

[@UrbanAnimeLounge]

As a side note If you have the default LPE6 Basic battery in but use type C power delivery, or a V Mount setup. Is the camera fully unlocked in its modes and capabilities?

[@Josh_Sattin]

If you are referring to the R5C, yes. The camera was designed to work with the LP-6NH batteries and you need the USB-C PD for certain modes. The LP-E6P doesn't unlock anything else at this point other than longer run times.

[@UrbanAnimeLounge]

@@Josh_Sattin no I was asking for the R5 mark II. As a way to avoid the canon tax on the new batteries but still unlock the full capabilities of the camera

[@Josh_Sattin]

@@UrbanAnimeLounge There are limitations in the R5II if you use the older batteries.

[@UrbanAnimeLounge]

@@Josh_Sattin yea, I was asking if the limitations are removed if you power it with A type C or a V mount setup?

[@IANNEZEK]

Question: Can you still program the switch between Video/Photo to a custom button? or you have to use the switch that's dedicated ?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I assume you are talking about the R5II. As far as I know, you can't right now. Hopefully they add that functionality as I know a lot of people wish it was still there. You have to use the switch on the left side of the camera.

[@IANNEZEK]

@@Josh_Sattin Yes I was referring to the Mark II - I have the R5 and I custom button the small one on the top next to the shutter to switch between Photo and Video - one press and in half a second it's switches from Photo to video.

[@NathanPhillipsPhoto]

Does the R5c get double the life with the grip on the new batteries?

[@Josh_Sattin]

I don't have the battery grip for the R5C to test that, but I have heard from viewers that yes, you will get the expected increase in run time with the two batteries.

[@RockyMaiviaMiami]

@@Josh_Sattinit does. I get 180mins with the grip and two of the new batteries

[@ryanrusso2954]

Does the R5C get a battery life boost in 4k60 with the new LP batteries?

[@Josh_Sattin]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5Opq3iKbbRkh7M

[@cjm8160]

Josh Sattin is the king of exposés 🏆

[@Josh_Sattin]

Haha. Just a nerd that tests cameras.

[@BrandonTalbot]

CANON CRIPPLEHAMMER STRIKES AGAIN!!!

[@JaredHoyman]

My gut says that canon will address the efficiency of the new battery for the R5 II in a firmware update. If anything over the last 4yrs that Canon has done to shock us is the fact that they started listening to us by creating fixes in firmware. I'll throw this out there and there is nothing to backup my prediction and I'm totally willing to own it if I'm wrong.....I could see Canon giving us 4k 60 oversampled in a future firmware update. Just putting it out there.

[@Josh_Sattin]

I hope both of those things happen🤞

[@PizzlesTechTime]

Josh knows someone is going to be typing right now but you did not test it in this configuration how am I supposed to know every detail about a battery before I purchase it if you don't test every single permutation

[@Josh_Sattin]

Haha. I've been posting KZbin videos for a while I guess.

[@PizzlesTechTime]

@@Josh_Sattin I know I feel you 100% except my brain is damaged irreversibly. I'm not sure if I started out dyslexic or I ended up dyslexic but I get numbers and patterns really messed up in my head. At one point I almost gave up reviewing technical gear. Although, I can't give it up and it is really my joy in life.

[@kifley19]

Canon is a joke. No c-log 2 for R5C but it gets 4k 60 oversampled. R5 II gets c-log 2 but no 4k 60 oversampled. 🔨🔨

[@mfluder15]

R5ll is a photography first camera and the R5C is a video first camera. Maybe we should all keep that in mind. There are obvious differences for a reason.

[@kifley19]

Canon with the cripple hammer on the R5 II even with new batteries. Plus the line skipped 4k 60 and 120. I'll just stick with my R6 II.

[@80-80.]

Well, the reason Canon didn't give us oversampled 4K 60p is because Canon knows KZbin had gone bananas complaining about overheating and battery life in that mode. Every single video would have titles like "R5II can only record for 10 min".

[@chavezbullycamp]

I will take the 10min just unlock 4k 60fps oversample!​@@80-80.

[@cjm8160]

@@80-80.is it really this hard for Canon to make a camera that won’t overheat?

[@UrbanAnimeLounge]

The r5 II is such an odd camera Needs to be rigged up like a sega Genesis in Tower of Power Mode and it still falls short at times 😂😂 Now I see why the default LPE6 batt puts it in A Base mode only and dosnt let it transform into super saiyan.

[@donovanmortell8380]

sold my r5c and regret it ! The r5ii is such a let down apart from autofocus... absolutely baffles me how they can just mess up so much ! 4k60/120 is awful and now the battery life... Although I noticed the battery was bad but it doesn't seem to be terrible on the field

[@brookscurran]

The r5c isn’t over sampled in 4k/120 either?

[@kashifswaynerobinson]

LMAOOOO

[@RS1925]

R5 II is not good people...

[@ejimihe8010]

The only reason you haven't bought the R5ii is because you cannot afford it yet. Be honest to yourself, stop trying to cope..

[@Josh_Sattin]

I did buy the R5 II.

[@ejimihe8010]

@@Josh_Sattin I was referring to some others in the comments..

[@bladerealm124]

@@ejimihe8010I bought the R5ii and still have one R5 body left which I plan to sell. But I can definitely see how for some users it is absolutely not worth the upgrade and in some cases it is a downgrade, mainly for still shooters who just use the mechanical shutter. It was worth it to me but most of the updates were specific to high framerate still shooters (sports) and videographers. There are a lot of photographers out there who don’t care for action photography and are probably looking for something along the lines of an A7RV but in a Canon body, with improvements in DR and low light, instead of improvement in readout speed like we got with the R5II. I think a higher megapixel Canon “R5R” would sell very well. Something with 60-100mp and photography focused like the A7RV. It also would have been nice to see further hardware upgrades like a comparable flippy tilty screen to what Sony is using now and also a higher resolution EVF.