Is it Time to End the DCEU?

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captainmidnight

captainmidnight

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@captainmidnight
@captainmidnight 6 жыл бұрын
Should the DCEU continue or should DC focus on standalone movies? Let me know! Follow me on Twitter: twitter.com/midnightcap Follow me on Facebook: facebook.com/midnightcap
@kissthistwice5
@kissthistwice5 6 жыл бұрын
captainmidnight I think the need to focus on stand alone movies at least until they’ve undone the damage. If the next 3 movies are a big success then sure that planning a JL movie but I wouldn’t even think about until all 3 have been out and if all 3 are big hits. Also I would follow from the last movie so don’t do injustice league or whatever. Do something different like an elseworld JL story. I’d love to see something like Gods & Monsters or Crisis on two earths be adapted
@Gemnist98
@Gemnist98 6 жыл бұрын
Personally? They need to do a hard reboot. A DCEU can and should work, but as it stands...
@ThePonderer
@ThePonderer 6 жыл бұрын
captainmidnight Hell yes it should. It’ll be sad to see this train wreck go, but I see ZERO reason to keep this universe around. Justice League already *ACTIVELY* contradicts BvS, as does Wonder Woman. They’re already working against the very concept of a connected universe.
@difaabdulrafi1303
@difaabdulrafi1303 6 жыл бұрын
Al Benzies focus on stand alone movie
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 6 жыл бұрын
captainmidnight Neither until they have a plan
@tlotloselei8085
@tlotloselei8085 6 жыл бұрын
"The Flash movie has been delayed more than Bruce Wayne's parents have been shot." I didn't know CaptainMidnight was a Savage😂
@_androo_9202
@_androo_9202 6 жыл бұрын
tlxtlx _ I didn't know Thomas and Martha Wayne were shot 50 times. Oh wait. They weren't so it doesn't even make sense
@carthage5352
@carthage5352 5 жыл бұрын
He means how many times WB shows batman's origin
@derangedcrouton1864
@derangedcrouton1864 5 жыл бұрын
Flash movie ain't happening
@itstrending8440
@itstrending8440 4 жыл бұрын
@@derangedcrouton1864 about that...
@markperl3869
@markperl3869 4 жыл бұрын
@@itstrending8440 Yeah, its been announced we will be getting Flash, Shazam 2, Black Adam, The Batman, Green Lantern Corps, The Suicide Squad, Justice League Snyder cut and Aquaman 2.
@ocek2744
@ocek2744 6 жыл бұрын
They screwed up Justice League. The one movie that was supposed to be make-or-break was the one they broke. If Marvel had failed the Avengers, we should be seeing a much different series of movies today.
@stevennealsantos
@stevennealsantos 6 жыл бұрын
Either way, I really, REALLY don’t want another Batman movie(s). You simply just can’t overachieve against the Dark Knight trilogy and Batman is everywhere in all forms of media and just completely over saturated at this point that his parents death is just infuriating.
@syystomu
@syystomu 6 жыл бұрын
Steven Santos Yeah, they should let the character rest for a little while and just like maybe have him in some TV shows or animated movies or making cameos in other characters's movies. He could go without a new solo film for a decade at this point without anybody being all that sad about it. The Nolan trilogy is still fresh enough after all and he can just show up in other media for those who really would miss him. They should take this chance to let other DC characters have their chance to shine, the ones who haven't had a decent movie yet.
@grinko1222
@grinko1222 6 жыл бұрын
Yout do realize that Batman is DC's most popular character right? Him and Superman are the reason why anyone has heard of DC in the first place. Batman's lore is huge and popular enough that can build multiple movies.
@d.j.2408
@d.j.2408 6 жыл бұрын
For me, where they've really gone wrong is their over-reliance on Batman to draw a crowd. I don't mean to knock Batman or his fans, but I feel that WB and DC has really exaggerated his importance to the comic-book world, and it's thrown off DC's equilibrium. I mean, why does every available protagonist need to be a tortured, cynical soul? What's wrong with thinking outside the box for a change? Again, I don't mean to knock Batman or his fanbase, but he's not as positive a role model as WB seems to think he is. The platitudes he brings up about doing what's necessary to defeat evil and being unable to move on from his childhood just aren't all that interesting. It doesn't help that the current live-action Batman is so flawed in terms of his likability. He doesn't have the depth to work as a main character, and he just gets in the way whenever he becomes the main focus. Once Affleck's performance wears off, there's not much there. I think there's definitely a place for batman in DC Comics, but I don't think he needs to be the main focus THIS often.
@grinko1222
@grinko1222 6 жыл бұрын
D. J. Batman is a man who works his ass off to keep up in a world where people has superpowers. Batman EARNED his "powers" of intellect and fighting skill. That's what makes him admirable. He also has the best supporting characters and rogues gallery of any superhero.
@StanleyMabonga
@StanleyMabonga 6 жыл бұрын
There is a reason why the man of steel sequel (BvS) made 200 million more than Man of Steel. Batman has power at the box office.
@thetonymasters
@thetonymasters 6 жыл бұрын
I did not like Ezra Miller's Flash at all. His quips were dry and felt forced.
@Shou_22
@Shou_22 6 жыл бұрын
I agree...
@marSLaZZ66
@marSLaZZ66 6 жыл бұрын
i agree too....however, i really liked him on "Fantastic Beasts"
@uhoh6706
@uhoh6706 6 жыл бұрын
He try’s so hard to be funny that it’s just cringy whenever he talks
@ForeverSweetx3
@ForeverSweetx3 4 жыл бұрын
Definitely.... He is not flash. Cyborg too... Affleck's batman isn't batman... In fact, all of Synder's characters are all misses, except for Wonder Woman.
@MrPickleGAMES
@MrPickleGAMES 3 жыл бұрын
I presume that y’all haven’t watched zack Snyder justice league?
@Varfair
@Varfair 6 жыл бұрын
That analogy with the soda was amazing, and accurate.
@FantasticalFlorance
@FantasticalFlorance 6 жыл бұрын
CookieAlas nah they're Dr Pepper recognizable enjoyed by few but completely repulses others.
@collegerebel
@collegerebel 6 жыл бұрын
Jay K. Weatherface Yeah, Dr. Pepper's nasty.
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 6 жыл бұрын
I grew up DC. Better cartoons, better comics, better video games, DC had it all. WTF happened??? WTF went wrong??? DC being RC cola is a low blow. Not without it's warrants. It just hurts. I also grew up loving Coca Cola.
@americanfootball8194
@americanfootball8194 6 жыл бұрын
Mar10 dc has bad movies but their games, animated projects, and comics are still better
@pookiepook7351
@pookiepook7351 6 жыл бұрын
He stole that analogy from some black girl that was a guest on collider show.....I saw that one. So he's not so original or clever.
@pjamese3
@pjamese3 6 жыл бұрын
Batman is dark. Most of the other DC heroes aren't. The problem Warner had (besides rushing everything to get that Avengers money) was following Zach Snyder's fever dream lead and making everything "darker" than the MCU. Many of DC's heroes are lighter than their Marvel counterparts. Warner needs to get someone who understands the characters and can oversee bringing them to the silver screen (not just their dark, twisted vision.)
@薇vern
@薇vern 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. It’s total fine to go darker, though. As long as it’s handled well and it still feels real, because that’s kind of what people like about Marvel. The characters feel real like they are actual people. Maybe not the concept though because, duh. It’s not about what tone, it’s about how you execute it. This was long.
@dignerds
@dignerds 5 жыл бұрын
Wrong on all points ..Man of Steel wasn't a dark movie
@DeadlyAlienInvader
@DeadlyAlienInvader 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, but then again, the dark tone isn’t the ONLY, nor the BIGGEST reason why those movies failed; they failed because of horrible story telling.
@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
@ΑΡΙΣΤΟΤΕΛΗΣΛΑΧΑΝΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ 4 жыл бұрын
@@DeadlyAlienInvader Not really. They failed due to executive meddling. A story doesn't work when you cut down major pieces. They cut down half an hour of BvS. They removed basically everything connecting suicide squad to the rest of the universe. And they completely changed justice League. Like it or hate it, Snyder had a clear vision for the DCEU. And seeing only its beginning and a middle that is changed so much that's basically unrecognisable, makes everything seem like an unplanned mess when it wasn't
@naolerena3193
@naolerena3193 4 жыл бұрын
@@dignerds yes it was
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 6 жыл бұрын
WB can fix DC movies by looking at their animated shows like Batman: The Animated Series, Superman, Batman Beyond, Justice League, Green Lantern, Young Justice, and just copy everything.
@ectoelectricity4164
@ectoelectricity4164 6 жыл бұрын
KingOfMadCows exactly
@ectoelectricity4164
@ectoelectricity4164 6 жыл бұрын
Like they should make a batman movie about the red hood
@Saurus990
@Saurus990 6 жыл бұрын
Aw yisss, Batman Beyond and Young Justice are in my top 10 shows man. Also Young Justice season 3 is supposed to come out this year.
@edgarmanuelcambaza6459
@edgarmanuelcambaza6459 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@magic75450
@magic75450 6 жыл бұрын
KingOfMadCows I think they should learn from them, and not just copy them.
@AlvaroCTV
@AlvaroCTV 6 жыл бұрын
3:56 *OH MY GOD I WAS NOT PREPARED FOR THAT SAVAGE BURN.*
@dr.strangerdangerthings8861
@dr.strangerdangerthings8861 6 жыл бұрын
Some RC cola fan is going to be pissed you compared it to the DCEU
@captainmidnight
@captainmidnight 6 жыл бұрын
Hahaha...brutal.
@mmhoss
@mmhoss 6 жыл бұрын
Let me just tell you, I am that RC cola fan
@tkgrant7
@tkgrant7 6 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha XD
@maxcometa9031
@maxcometa9031 6 жыл бұрын
There are dozens of us! DOZENS!!!!
@lonelysith66
@lonelysith66 6 жыл бұрын
That just did me in! This fool said RC Cola! 🤣
@Wixhael
@Wixhael 6 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I think that Warner Bros should stop focusing on the live action films and should invest more in the animated stuff. Not all of the animated films coming out nowadays are the next Dark Knight, but they're all much better than the best the DCEU has to offer. I'd love to see more stuff in that universe, since we know the people running that are capable of making something awesome.
@harryhuang3931
@harryhuang3931 6 жыл бұрын
have you ever considered the emoji movie? it was harrable
@landonlee5536
@landonlee5536 6 жыл бұрын
Ultra Nerd terrible idea
@Alfonso88279
@Alfonso88279 6 жыл бұрын
What they should actually do is putting some of the people that are in charge of the animated movies, in charge of some real action movies. It's hard to believe how good are the animated movies and how BAD are the real action dc movies. They need to take their directors and writers. Maybe the main problem is how faithful to the comics are one and the others. While the animated movies are quite faithful to the original movies, the real action movies hardly have something related to them. Those directors and writers really need to CARE about the original material, and treat their characters with RESPECT. It's terrible what they did in suicide squad. They transformed the villains in generic heroes. That's the worst you can do. Well. Apart from the huge amoung of mistakes and stupid writing...
@redwolf19k45
@redwolf19k45 6 жыл бұрын
Ultra Nerd I disagree. Live action is where the money is,and at the end of the day WB is a business. They should just get some of the minds from the animated movies to work on the dceu. basically do the animated movies' plot in live action
@nfstyles
@nfstyles 6 жыл бұрын
I think they should make solo other world stories and shouldn’t try an extended universe for a while.
@jackthegreek6092
@jackthegreek6092 6 жыл бұрын
You mean like Thanagar(Hawkgirls home planet) or Mr Miracle on Apokolips or that one Green Lantern that's a planet? Could be interesting...
@Hunterfalke
@Hunterfalke 6 жыл бұрын
America Eagle I think he meant "Elseworld", as in Vampire Batman, Red Son Superman or the current Batman; The White Knight.
@Debilinside
@Debilinside 6 жыл бұрын
I think it would really confuse the avarage movie goer. They know what generally Batman is, but Vampire Batman would be like "What the fuck is this shit?". They would think its a bad copy or shitty reboot of Batman. Dont get me wrong, I really like those animated movies. Gotham by Gaslight oh my god... Instant fanboy hardon :D But the wider audience wouldnt be able to understand it and it would flop hard.
@jackthegreek6092
@jackthegreek6092 6 жыл бұрын
Hunterfalke Oooh... maybe they should...
@ary9109
@ary9109 6 жыл бұрын
Extended Universes are just the Hot new thing though
@rodster6campingprepper
@rodster6campingprepper 6 жыл бұрын
If a Justice League movie can't draw in an audience then what hope do Aqua Man or Shazam have?
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
If a Justice League movie with some very public production problems and negative reviews can't draw in an audience, then Aqua Man and Shazam had better hope that they get decent reviews and/or word of mouth. The audience is still out there, but waiting for something worth seeing...
@RosemaryWitch4
@RosemaryWitch4 6 жыл бұрын
There is always hope. Plus it might be cool watching all the water animation in aquaman, with a hopefully good story. and shazam could ruin the argument that DC is too dark. But one thing is clear. Wonder Woman was based on mythology and did very successfully. Aquaman is based off mythology. Coincidence? I sure hope not...
@cammywhite8374
@cammywhite8374 6 жыл бұрын
rodster6 R.I.P DC
@theshadow5352
@theshadow5352 6 жыл бұрын
rodster6 Because in 2018 word of mouth matters more than brand recognition when it comes to superhero movies. If the aquaman movie is good,it will do better than justice league both financillay and critically. If brand reconginution was all that mattered,then black panther wouldnt have made made more money than spiderman,and wonder woman wouldn't have made more money than man of steel. Also marvel made a successful cinematic universe out of then d list and C list characters like thor and iron man(they might be super popular now,but a decade ago they were c list and d list characters). If marvel cant do it,why can't DC?
@josh-tt4fq
@josh-tt4fq 6 жыл бұрын
Shazam probably has a chance of drawing in a crowd, but agua man? Eh
@subhankarpradhan6545
@subhankarpradhan6545 6 жыл бұрын
If the DCEU starts relying more on story rather than CGI heavy action set pieces that would be great... We all love great fight scenes and all but there is not much new in that... I don't think CGI action scenes excite the audience anymore... Instead movies like logan are a Breath of Fresh air... More character development... More Drama... Because Characters and dialogs is what makes movies memorable... They can also take some Cues from CW Flash show... The show knows what it is and caters to its audience... Just a fun show with likable characters...
@ThePowerpointMaster
@ThePowerpointMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Subhankar a DCEU reboot should start with a lower budget
@ThePowerpointMaster
@ThePowerpointMaster 6 жыл бұрын
Subhankar to focus more on character
@subhankarpradhan6545
@subhankarpradhan6545 6 жыл бұрын
The Powerpoint Master yes they definitely should... May be something like Christopher Nolan did, characters with depth or like Gotham TV series thats a good one...
@Saurus990
@Saurus990 6 жыл бұрын
I know right, action is fine and good, but as a climax to the drama, tension and stakes rising into a final showdown. I mean, look at the incredibles, most of the movie was world/character building with some action to spice things up. Later on, on the island the action was used to raise the stakes even higher and all that led into the final showdown. They have the budget, there is talent. It's just that the "suits" tie directors' hands because of "muh target audience".
@manhphanhoang9555
@manhphanhoang9555 6 жыл бұрын
It seems they wont learn since they are doing Flashpoint for first Flash movie. They also are doing New Gods for some reason
@r3n3gad33
@r3n3gad33 6 жыл бұрын
Short Answer: Yes Long Answer: Why hasn't it happen yet?
@micky4072
@micky4072 6 жыл бұрын
You just reminded me on how Thomas Wayne tried to punch a dude with a gun
@TonyQuinn
@TonyQuinn 6 жыл бұрын
Mick M Yeah that was stupid lol. It also seemed like Joe Chill shot them just for the heck of it because he didn’t appear to steal anything.
@jordonfoss1022
@jordonfoss1022 6 жыл бұрын
I literally say this all the time. Such a massive L on Snyder's part. But I think the intent was to show how Batman could rational becoming a killer. Because in the comics, we all know the Wayne's are innocent victims. And because they were struck down without reason, Bruce swears to never take a life. Because all murder is without reason in his mind. Which in extension is why he doesn't even use guns. Because to use a gun is to have lethal intent. BUT to be truly innocent, Thomas Wayne can't be a fucking dumb ass who incites the fight that gets him and his wife killed. And because this is the final image Bruce sees of his father... Batfleck feels he has to be the one to strike first or die. "Kill a killer. And the number of murderers in Gotham stays the same."-Batman
@alexcvalenzuela
@alexcvalenzuela 6 жыл бұрын
"What if you kill more than one killer?" - Frank Castle
@Rei_Tatekei
@Rei_Tatekei 6 жыл бұрын
Actually that's what happened in the original version: www.colorado.edu/sites/default/files/attached-files/batman_1.jpg
@Rei_Tatekei
@Rei_Tatekei 6 жыл бұрын
And Dark Knight Returns: bigotherbigother.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/page-231.jpg
@RandomU5erName
@RandomU5erName 6 жыл бұрын
It was dead when they announced Snyder would lead the whole thing
@majorbs1080
@majorbs1080 6 жыл бұрын
The Snyder fanboys are coming. The Snyder fanboys are coming.
@roycastanon5754
@roycastanon5754 6 жыл бұрын
RandomU5erName you sound like the type of person that worships rottentomatoes because you don’t have a brain of your own so you need other people to tell you what to think
@Add183
@Add183 6 жыл бұрын
DayTripper no he doesn't but you do sound triggered
@RandomU5erName
@RandomU5erName 6 жыл бұрын
"but but Snyders movies have a dark and gritty tone, they must be good!"
@mar10ssj1
@mar10ssj1 6 жыл бұрын
Snyder made Watchmen by COPY and PASTING the comic book panels into live action. That is no visionary director. DC was looking for a Nolan, they settled with Snyder. Also, many of you over look a guy called Kevin Feige. He is the CORE reason why Marvel is going strong. He is the guy holding the strings in the MCU.
@adriancastro3899
@adriancastro3899 6 жыл бұрын
I'm just going to hope Aquaman and Shazam! Will be good. The whole universe thing could've been handled better if it hadn't been held by Snyder
@ferzum7290
@ferzum7290 6 жыл бұрын
Exactly at the end, it was snyder that killed this cinematic universe, because at the end of the day its not the IP that makes an excelent movie but the director
@misiot9274
@misiot9274 6 жыл бұрын
should've hired Nolan
@pureblackfire511
@pureblackfire511 6 жыл бұрын
Nolan didn't want the job Misi Ot. he is the one who called Snyder in the first place. WB begged Nolan to reboot Superman in the tone of his Dark Knight movies, he worked on the general story for Man of Steel. he didn't want anything to do with shared universe or superpowers. Nolan is not a fan guys, he just used Batman's popularity. his brother is a fan, but not him. no way Nolan was directing a Superman movie or a shared universe. he made WB cast another actor as Batman when they were going ahead with George MIller's justice League Mortal in 2007. the fact is, there is one studio where the suits actually care about comic books and doing justice as best they can to the characters and source material, and their hot streak is no accident. the best regarded comic book movies from WB, Fox and Sony as of late (Deadpool, Wonder Woman, Spider-Man Homecoming) were 2 flukes that WB and Fox gave a fraction of the usual blockbuster superhero movie budget and marketing because they had no faith in, and Marvel Studios rebooted Spider-Man for Sony. all roads lead to common sense here, these people behind the scenes do not care beyond what they assume will earn the most money on brand value alone. as for WB's interference, they bungled it, but they started caring too late. end of the day, Snyder was not and is not a good fit to this particular material. the man doesn't like Superman, doesn't like mainstream comics (loves Watchmen pretty much) and has said it enough times already. he only took this up because Batman and Superman "transcend comic book heroes" in other words because they are popular and more symbols than characters. and this is right up Snyder's alley as he is quite bad when directing actors to portray actual humanity or depth, but can make a shot look good (basically he should just be a DP and not director) but the audience needs relatability. this whole thing was doomed from the start. Man of Steel was reactionary violence fest with weak Jesus parallels (most overused hero trope in hollywood) because Superman Returns had no baddies to fight and was boring. it had it's dour tone because The Dark Knight was a hit. they didn't start out right and it's not gonna end up right. everything in between is just going through the motions. I do agree they should have just stuck with Snyder's "vision" after they failed to correct the mistake of hiring him post Man of Steel, but the movies wouldn't be any better or better received, JL might have tanked even harder if people had to sit through another depressing, overlong, mean, dour slog of a comic book movie taking itself way too seriously for all it's goofy flaws and outlandish logic. in the end the studio firing Snyder and hacking up his movie was the best case scenario for Zack and everyone who wants to hold out hope that his movie would have been great and turned everyone to see his genius if the people who hired and financed him just let him do his thing. because positive hope is better than negative confirmation.
@pureblackfire511
@pureblackfire511 6 жыл бұрын
Juha-Matti Tenhunen the very notion of BvS was flawed. Snyder wanted to make Man of Steel 2, which should have been the case. BvS was like the entirety of Marvel's phase 1 mashed into one film, it was a horrifying concept. Superman sequel + Batman origin + Wonder Woman cameo + JL teaser trailer+ one insanely, redundant, convoluted villain plot + a tacked on third act baddie to punch + Dark Knight Returns (even though we just met him!) + the death of Superman (before anybody actually got invested in him to give his death some weight) = hot mess. I agree with you, though not a fan of Snyder's vision, he would have been better suited to a trilogy not part of a shared universe. but, Snyder doesn't own these characters, he truly doesn't even like or understand them, and WB/DC wanted a shared universe to compete with the MCU. this is why I said they made the first mistake working with Zack in the first place, the arrangement was bad for everyone. then they double down on him, only to stab him in the back later. this is the studio that was taking shots at the competition and claiming to be "director driven".
@i-never-asked-for-this
@i-never-asked-for-this 6 жыл бұрын
@PureBlackFire: Could not have said it better myself, BVS was 5 movies rolled into one. While telling deconstructionist stories like The Dark Knight Returns when they're in the startup phase of their cinematic universe :S
@jacindakrider1847
@jacindakrider1847 6 жыл бұрын
DC needs to start over. End? No.
@americanfootball8194
@americanfootball8194 6 жыл бұрын
Considering the failure of the DCEU, I think instead of trying to mimic Marvel’s (mostly) successful movies, they should just have the separate franchises like Batman and Superman but have them crossover on occasion rather than forcing a shared universe.
@americanfootball8194
@americanfootball8194 6 жыл бұрын
For example: presume we get a new Batman, I say let him have a few movies and also make a new but separate Superman franchise and at some point make a heroes unite kinda thing but still have them separate enough to do their own thing.
@americanfootball8194
@americanfootball8194 6 жыл бұрын
Also keep gal gadot’s Wonder Woman in that continuity with a flashpoint excuse
@mrbrokenoreo6557
@mrbrokenoreo6557 6 жыл бұрын
I'm so confused though. Why did JL just wrap up in the BO when it came out in November? That's a LONG time. Also, CAPTAIN MIDNIGHT
@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss
@owRekssjfjxjxuurrpqpqss 6 жыл бұрын
Slayzes 34737 I am too lazy to google it but possibly launching in other regions later or simply some theatre chains showing it for a longer period of time.
@FrancisXLord
@FrancisXLord 6 жыл бұрын
It was on a small number of theatres since January. It's last weekend it was on just 62 out of the 4,051 it started with.
@pureblackfire511
@pureblackfire511 6 жыл бұрын
they were just letting it run until it stopped dead, trying to squeeze every drop out. for example, Star Wars The Last Jedi is still playing in limited release making couple hundred thousand bucks a week.
@FrancisXLord
@FrancisXLord 6 жыл бұрын
PureBlackFire And if there's one film that needs those couple of hundred thousand bucks a week it's The Last Jedi. The difference between heads rolling and not rolling could be as little as $100,000 methinks.
@FrancisXLord
@FrancisXLord 6 жыл бұрын
PureBlackFire Also, at least a few thousand people either have more money than they need or are so demented as to convince themselves that that movie was good.
@matthogan3976
@matthogan3976 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I think the DCEU is salvageable, but not without clear vision going forward. But there doesn't seem to be any of that at WB right now. And in absence of it, I'd shelve everything except WW2 until some quality projects can be put together, because anything attached to JL/DCEU is going in with some heavy baggage.
@cammywhite8374
@cammywhite8374 6 жыл бұрын
Matt Hogan DC R.I.P Flaw with DC is that they’re heroes are just way too powerful they need to make them more vulnerable one of the things I loved about marvel is they did that with hulk I mean come on when have you seen the hulk get beat up in less than 2 minutes?
@Br-kc2jy
@Br-kc2jy 2 жыл бұрын
@@cammywhite8374 They should definitely nerf a bit some character, to have a bit more stakes, but not entirely. Superman is my favourite superhero, I know that some people may not like what I find interesting about him, his ideals and identity are what makes him super. He was raised on Earth, he has a human mentality, he's only motivation is to do good becausehe was raised by his parents to live by those ideals, and I think changing that is like making Batman a murder. But I definitely understand that some people want action, and Superman action can be interesting, but hard to make. So I think they should definitely lower his power level to ve slightly higher that Wonder Woman's. Like, if they were to fight (which they shouldn't, since they're good friends and wouldmake sense) Supes would win on a one to one, but should have a harder time fighting both Wonder Woman and Aquaman, and should 100% lose if another superstrength hero joined in, he'll maybe even Wonder Woman should be able to put up a fight on her own. But, yeah, Superman is too powerful for the mainstream audience, and should be change to make him more appealing, but to make him more appealing as a hero, not some kind of evil god
@raimo1985
@raimo1985 6 жыл бұрын
I liked Zachary Levi in Chuck, so i'm happy to see him working on Shazam, i hope it will be a cool/fun movie.
@Squashwhack
@Squashwhack 6 жыл бұрын
Ah it's finals week in the uni for me, needed this Cap. Thanks fam
@Theashyone
@Theashyone 6 жыл бұрын
“Stop stop it’s already dead!”
@thezzzaappp
@thezzzaappp 6 жыл бұрын
They should let JL die. Focus on solo movies for a while. I think DC really does deserve an interconnected universe. But they can’t reboot too soon, they should wait until Marvel gets stale. Also take the damn time to build your universe! Don’t rush it! Each character needs their story! Kids who watched Iron man are adults now! These characters are part of people’s lives. That can’t be said for dc movies, and as a kid who was all about Batman and Superman, that’s sad.
@timesreacher6676
@timesreacher6676 6 жыл бұрын
NotAWesternSpy WW has got the attention from both children and adults.
@timesreacher6676
@timesreacher6676 6 жыл бұрын
NotAWesternSpy heck one boy preferred WW's merchandise over Iron man's.
@milky4367
@milky4367 6 жыл бұрын
Thing is, they can't wait for the MCU to get stale. It's just not happening. They've already set up this huge universe with awesome characters and they're not getting stale anytime soon
@ericgarcia7592
@ericgarcia7592 6 жыл бұрын
People have been saying for years that Marvel films would get stale over time. It's proven the contrary so many times at this point. DC has no choice but to keep grinding on. Otherwise they're gonna be left behind even further.
@timesreacher6676
@timesreacher6676 6 жыл бұрын
Eric Garcia true.
@soundwave8466
@soundwave8466 6 жыл бұрын
Although I am more of a Marvel fan, I still respect DC because it was my introduction to super heroes. DC has many fantastic characters with potentially amazing films like Captain Marvel (not to be confused with Ms. Marvel), Doctor Fate, Martian etc.
@swaggycoolgirl9896
@swaggycoolgirl9896 6 жыл бұрын
Soundwave 84 Captain Marvel ain’t form dc...
@applehazeva2739
@applehazeva2739 4 жыл бұрын
@@swaggycoolgirl9896 yes it is Shazam
@runbaa9285
@runbaa9285 6 жыл бұрын
The DC Animated Universe is one of the first instances I can remember of a shared universe between superheroes in TV or film. If I'm being honest, Marvel probably used the DCAU as an example, lmao... Which is just ironic...
@EJM1224
@EJM1224 6 жыл бұрын
Taka Baruna DC copied their comics with animation as did Marvel with live action. Both companies built shared multiverses in the comics decades ago and even managed to cross with one another. DC is copying Marvel's live action transition though, instead of an organic imitation of the comics, for the sake of time. And that's why they're having trouble. They're following instructions, rushing through them, and proceeding with the expectation of uniqueness...these three cannot coexist.
@Gemnist98
@Gemnist98 6 жыл бұрын
The idea of a shared universe in film and TV dates back to early Hollywood with the Universal Monsters shared universe (no, not the Tom Cruise Mummy thingy). That said, while DC technically got the jumpstart, Kevin Feige conceived the MCU through sheer love of the comics.
@EJM1224
@EJM1224 6 жыл бұрын
Gemnist The Universal monsters were more of a crossover. Their individual stories conflict with the shared stories and vice versa whereas, in a cinematic universe, those stories connect and contribute to a greater story. So, yes, while the concept has been around, it isn't nearly the same. Neither DC nor Marvel got the jumpstart. Both companies developed shared universes decades before even Universal's crossover, just in their own medium of comic books. Both are adapting that concept, just as they adapt their characters, to a movie format. Marvel adapted it to live action first, and to much success. DC tried to emulate that success rather than focus on the adaptation of character and format itself, which may have prevented a more organic means of achieving a similar cinematic universe.
@kevrokka.d.9749
@kevrokka.d.9749 6 жыл бұрын
Marvel characters were built from the ground up using a shared universe, so it should be no surprise that they're so great at it. Hell, they've practically even made New York a character as a result. DC characters were bought from different places and didn't interact at first. DC eventually cobbled together a 'cohesive' universe. Even then they were playing catch-up with Marvel as Marvel's characters reflected the real world at the time like no other. DC usually trails Marvel because while DC may have got the ball rolling first, it was Marvel who took the ball and has not relinquished it yet.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
Marvel's 90s animated series also had a shared universe going on.
@savagemcflurry9082
@savagemcflurry9082 6 жыл бұрын
"The Death of the DCEU" ...Was it ever alive to begin with?
@FallenAngelRecords
@FallenAngelRecords 6 жыл бұрын
Captain Midnight is by far one of the best video essay channels on youtube, I'd give anything for Warner Bro's to hire you and ask you for advice! Great Content Man.
@toneriggz
@toneriggz 6 жыл бұрын
The one thing that DC has over Marvel is better, fleshed out female leads. They should continue that with Wonder Woman, Harley Quinn, etc. Other than that, DCEU is still playing catch up with the MCU and they're way off.
@tumadre7809
@tumadre7809 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I don’t really care much for Scarlet Witch. Black Widow is cool, but all the info we got on her is that she was a ballet dancer or something.
@tashidiaz8915
@tashidiaz8915 6 жыл бұрын
I think they are holding Black Widow info until they make a BW movie. And the is a super spy so her character needs to be shroud in mystery. I don't care that much about Scarlet Witch either. But the new girl Shuri is looking like she might end up being a fan favorite. They also have Captain Marvel coming so WW2 need to come out fast or DCEU might loose that last good thing about it as well.
@kevrokka.d.9749
@kevrokka.d.9749 6 жыл бұрын
The X-ladies say, "hi".
@tumadre7809
@tumadre7809 6 жыл бұрын
Oh I forgot about the X-men. Yeah, they’re cool.
@tumadre7809
@tumadre7809 6 жыл бұрын
banks True. Batman:”I’m dark and serious... but I love to make “jokes”! Also, I hate Superman, but he’s also my BFF at the same time!” Gg DCEU
@chatur_boy
@chatur_boy 6 жыл бұрын
This video hits me hard as a DC loyalist migrating to the MCU movies. #selfacceptance
@collegerebel
@collegerebel 6 жыл бұрын
Sigmund Salazar Apparently, Raganrok did some course correction because Chris Hemsworth himself payed attention to the fans concerns, and did the proper arrangements to change things up. If that's all true, that just goes to show how dedicated the guy is, and that Marvel Studios are actually willing to listen to fans. WB has to learn that.
@chatur_boy
@chatur_boy 6 жыл бұрын
Such a sound analysis! Wow Sigmund I am impressed..
@chatur_boy
@chatur_boy 6 жыл бұрын
banks who said anything about dismissing boi ? But the thing is Batman was bae ♥️ and now he's kinda gay (couldn't think of anything rhyming with gay) ?! 🤔😂 Well you get the idea ! I so desperately want a good DC movie! Bring Christopher Nolan if they have to !
@dwightyboy2075
@dwightyboy2075 6 жыл бұрын
In the exact same position
@nadtz
@nadtz 6 жыл бұрын
So bizarre that DC and Lucasfilms gets their animated stuff right but the live action so wrong. Id like to see a DCEU succeed, but I guess we will see.
@evageassr1913
@evageassr1913 6 жыл бұрын
badtz maru the clone wars movie was terrible lol
@nadtz
@nadtz 6 жыл бұрын
True, forgot about that one.
@crazyfire9470
@crazyfire9470 6 жыл бұрын
EVAGEASS R .......I like it😓
@dragicajelic3370
@dragicajelic3370 6 жыл бұрын
Ummm Lucasfilms's Star Wars were wrong for you?
@twackburn
@twackburn 6 жыл бұрын
Seriously why have they kept Zack Snyder around this long? He has to go if they want these movies to be more than Watchmen sequels.
@roycastanon5754
@roycastanon5754 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Blackburn he should finish what he started
@memecliparchives2254
@memecliparchives2254 6 жыл бұрын
Paul Blackburn Because Warner Bros was the problem all along
@RiGuy050
@RiGuy050 6 жыл бұрын
He did go...
@therealjoey_9
@therealjoey_9 6 жыл бұрын
Man, somebody make this guy the ceo of marvel and dc.
@dignerds
@dignerds 5 жыл бұрын
He's clueless
@ellimac4386
@ellimac4386 3 жыл бұрын
Here in 2021, after Wonder Woman 2, with Snyder’s Justice League coming in less than a month, I would say that’d be a proper ending to the whole Snyder’s DC universe. It’s not getting any better.
@clovers10
@clovers10 6 жыл бұрын
"I think they've lost the mainstream audiences trust at this point..." That evaporated after BvS. WB is just feeling the effects now. And while I do think this can be turned around. It's the above level of keen awareness that tells me a functioning DCEU is as close as 2030.
@honoraryanglo2929
@honoraryanglo2929 6 жыл бұрын
DC = Best Animated +Worst Live Action Marvel = Worst Animated + Best Live Action
@MAXIMUMTOLERANCE
@MAXIMUMTOLERANCE 6 жыл бұрын
Rick Grassi facts
@peterjoyfilms
@peterjoyfilms 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone even watch animated though?
@Rotalight
@Rotalight 6 жыл бұрын
@@peterjoyfilms THATS WHAT IM SAYING!
@ElbireTM
@ElbireTM 6 жыл бұрын
@@peterjoyfilms i like watching both of them, so yes
@haresh4016
@haresh4016 6 жыл бұрын
@AkiHimura They have spectacular Spidey and Spiderman:The animated series. Ultimate was kinda bad though
@serenityyiye
@serenityyiye 6 жыл бұрын
I love your content so much
@dignerds
@dignerds 5 жыл бұрын
I think it's self righteous word salad trash
@wingmandecrayt8932
@wingmandecrayt8932 6 жыл бұрын
I hate this plan b mentality that warner bros is following. "Our A-list characters didnt work so we gotta do the next best thing". Every "change" they announced up until now, sounds to me like desperate damage control. No clear vision or direction. As long as videos like this are coming (nothing against you cap this is a good video just talking in general) we know that warner bros is a complete mess that cant handle themselve.
@tamariomartin9080
@tamariomartin9080 6 жыл бұрын
I can see it going the exact route as the "Amazing Spider-man" movies did, where they're desperately trying to make so many changes, try a bunch of "new ideas" just to either try to appease to fans, or at least make enough to rival other companies that eventually it would get so tiresome and tedious that they'll eventually drop it and someone with some actually passion can get their hands on the DC characters and lore.
@theshadow5352
@theshadow5352 6 жыл бұрын
Jenson John-Alexander Not saying you are wrong or anything but marvel made a successful cinematic universe with previously d list characters like iron man and thor. So DC can do it too with shazam and aquaman
@kevrokka.d.9749
@kevrokka.d.9749 6 жыл бұрын
DC has never been great at the shared universe concept. Their most popular comics seem to be out of continuity.
@wrestlinganime4life288
@wrestlinganime4life288 4 жыл бұрын
Clearly never see the DC animated universe
@josejimtharayil1511
@josejimtharayil1511 3 жыл бұрын
Yep
@superraegun2649
@superraegun2649 6 жыл бұрын
I’d literally never heard of RC Cola until this video came out.
@Galimeer5
@Galimeer5 6 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite Justice League movies is the animated "Justice League: Throne of Atlantis" Each character had a moment in the spotlight, even though the story was focused on Arthur becoming Aquaman. The only real issue I have with it us that the pacing of the romance subplot of Arthur and Mira was a bit too fast. But take that story, extend it to about 2 hours (adding ~45 minutes) and use that extra time to slow down the plot when it's going too fast, add some more personality to the characters, and boom; perfect Justice League movie. The only hindrance is that an ordinary moviegoer won't be as familiar with the characters, but when I first saw "Justice League: War" I had no idea who Shazam was, but by the end of the movie, I had a pretty good idea of who he was.
@ddbannister2134
@ddbannister2134 6 жыл бұрын
To be honest I have lost any hope to any DC movie. Marvel actually understands how to make movies. Marvel has three more movies planned this year. I'll be honest, I am more of a Marvel fan. And I believe a Lot of people agree that DC isn't really competing much with Marvel movies. Justice league made 239M while Marvel's most recent stand alone movie Black Panther made over 1B dollars. And with Infinity War around the corner that potentially can be more popular. With DC's current profit and popularity Marvel is in the lead. If Warner Bros can't create good movies than why would I waste money and time to watch them. At that point I might as well wait for them to come on NETFLIX. Or do what I did with Justice League and not even bother to watch them. And just a reminder that this is coming from a person who prefers Marvel way more than DC. In most standards.
@ashbro3214
@ashbro3214 6 жыл бұрын
58k subs.. channel is growing but not fast enough.. Captain deserves better.
@lorenzosievert3296
@lorenzosievert3296 6 жыл бұрын
dude ur vids r really good honestly they´re perfect (well, for me) love u
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 6 жыл бұрын
DC doesn't need their live action movie to be interconnected in order to draw more crowds, they're crushing Marvel in animated films, animated tv series, games, comic books, novels, and is slowly losing to Marvel in live action tv series. DC should get their priorities straight and with WB possibly being sold in the near future, DC shouldn't try any new multi million dollar investments (by trying something like a reboot) while their future is so fragile at the moment.
@ferzum7290
@ferzum7290 6 жыл бұрын
In the videogame department is debatable since it has been only with the recent generation of consoles that DC had a prominent rol but marvel had the videogame department since snes to ps2/xbox. But at the end in video games is not the IP but the devolper. Thats why we got great games like the spiderman for ps1 or ultimate aliance for ps2 or 6the arkham asylun and city for the ps3 but also we get terrible games like superman 64
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 6 жыл бұрын
Fer Zum Injustice 1, 2 and all four Arkham games don't compare to one Spider-Man game
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420
@BSJINTHEHOUSE420 6 жыл бұрын
Zach Ryder New Spidey game looks promising so start eating your words
@zachryder3150
@zachryder3150 6 жыл бұрын
BSJ IN YO HOUSE Great! Still 3-4 good games to go...
@ferzum7290
@ferzum7290 6 жыл бұрын
Zach Ryder ok for the list of marvel you have for the snes the xmen children of the atom, and the punisher/nick fury beat the up. For the psx you have spiderman 1 and spiderman 2, the first marvel vs capcom, for the ps2 marvel vs capcom 2, the 2 adaptions for the sam raimi spiderman movies, marvel ultimate aliance, xmen rise of the imperfects, ps3 marvel vs capcom 3 and the capitan america first avenger. But the point is not the IP its the developer all of this games were excelent in their time because of the developer.
@littlered6340
@littlered6340 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that the DCAU remains amazing and the DCEU is garbage, to me, shows a fundamental misunderstanding from whoever is in charge of / has final say on these live action movies. There are so few redeemable movies in the canon that I'm okay with it just ending and the DCAU picking up all the slack. Except the Shazam movie; I'm so glad my boy got such a good movie 😭 I love him so much. I can't wait for the sequel!
@cognitivedissonance8406
@cognitivedissonance8406 6 жыл бұрын
Cabin in the Woods is an instant classic
@8loomer780
@8loomer780 6 жыл бұрын
Dude ugh not tryna sound like a kiss ass but your content is so fucking good also a question/video idea- 7 DC movie hopes
@captainmidnight
@captainmidnight 6 жыл бұрын
Aw, thanks! And that’s a very good idea!
@thesporkguy
@thesporkguy 6 жыл бұрын
This is my 3rd time watching this video and I'm just now realizing it was uploaded on my birthday. Thus, I consider it one of the best presents I've received this year!
@CarlosSanchez-eg2uh
@CarlosSanchez-eg2uh 6 жыл бұрын
I expected a 3 second video saying “yes, thanks for watching”
@HawkTheLesser
@HawkTheLesser 3 жыл бұрын
You're a legend man! Loving all your content these days and I'm looking forward to some more ✌️
@dyutiparnaguha8693
@dyutiparnaguha8693 6 жыл бұрын
Zack Snyder killed DCEU single handedly. But still fanboys behave like he is some reincarnation of Kubrick. I have seen them demanding "Snyder Cut" of JL from WB on various social media. The kind of mess that JL was, I really don't think any kind of " cut" can save it. But still, at least it was better than Suicide Squad. I really think they should have released the solo films and build the characters up a little bit before the team-up films.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
It's not just Snyder - it's also whoever was on the committee at the studio making decisions like "Don't make MoS 2; make BvS instead. And put a trailer for JL in there too - but put it in the middle of the movie so people see it."
@johnstovall7503
@johnstovall7503 6 жыл бұрын
rmsgrey. It all on the studio if you ask me. Their ignorant paranoid interference is the problem. same as with the Hobbit. Listening to Peter jackson talk about them makes me really impressed how good they managed to make them. Two hour of less mandated run-time for Justice league? Tens of millions of Dollars in reshoots. Deleting most of the fun scenes and God knows what else from the film. Horror story. Keven Feige is most of why MCU is so great and the fact he doesn't have to deal with this shit is a lot of it.
@rmsgrey
@rmsgrey 6 жыл бұрын
The studio doesn't help, but at least some of the blame has to rest on Zack Snyder's inability to tell a story - he throws some absolutely fantastic shots and scenes up on the screen, but leaves it up to the viewer to make it all fit together and make sense. Throwing a bunch of shots up and hoping it all makes sense somehow is not great film-making...
@johnstovall7503
@johnstovall7503 6 жыл бұрын
See his stories really work and connect for me. So maybe I'm odd but I'm on his wavelength. It all connects for me just fine. To me he's one of the top directors and storytellers out.
@redwolf19k45
@redwolf19k45 6 жыл бұрын
Diya Banerjee Agreed. Zack Snyder is a bigger threat to the DC universe than Darkseid,brainiac,and anti monitor combined
@valentinsavva6825
@valentinsavva6825 6 жыл бұрын
Every time you post a video it feels like christmas to me
@inthevoid888
@inthevoid888 6 жыл бұрын
Just go back to making movies like Watchmen, Constantine, Jonah Hex, etc. Standalone enjoyable movies that anyone can love. There’s a lot of comics and characters in the DC universe that warrants a film adaptation.
@Mrenderboyo
@Mrenderboyo 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah we need a reboot thats starts off with a batman movie and it will have solo films for each character and then have justice league
@XxwalaweixX
@XxwalaweixX 6 жыл бұрын
WB need to let the director do their own thing and their fucking JOB!! Don't be like SONY with spider universe... we know what happened to that right?
@plsdontbeahero
@plsdontbeahero 6 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately... Yes.
@grandmastercadillac9052
@grandmastercadillac9052 6 жыл бұрын
DC tried to start their universe off with decontructionist versions of superman and batman instead of giving us the versions we all know and love. They Doubled down on the cynicism with suicide squad which really should have happened after a justice league film. Then they tried to course correct all this very clumsily with justice league.
@rorschach1848
@rorschach1848 6 жыл бұрын
I say keep the DCEU going but have someone other than Warner Bros. in control of the franchise. DC should make their own movie company.
@danielcarbajal4105
@danielcarbajal4105 6 жыл бұрын
Batfleck Forever Nigga DC is owned by Warner Bros lmao
@josefhill1515
@josefhill1515 6 жыл бұрын
Intelligent, interesting & measured, as always. Consistently excellent content dude, thank you.
@mauricioalvarez9761
@mauricioalvarez9761 6 жыл бұрын
What if they put a nerd or someone who actually cares about this characters and stories in charge instead of dudebro Zack Snyder (maybe not a bad director, but not the right guy for the job either). I mean, DC Is full of excellent characters and unforgettable moments, they deserve better than an over the top exercise in filmmaking style.
@skreen2theworld809
@skreen2theworld809 6 жыл бұрын
I think the DCEU should reboot itself, but still keep the shared universe thing, the new movies should have slight humour, and complex stories (When they are needed) to differentiate themselves from marvel, and this time with more standalone movies so the Justice League film can feel earned
@뭐-z4c
@뭐-z4c 6 жыл бұрын
WB and Snyder ruined DCEU. That’s the fact.
@crunchy1547
@crunchy1547 4 жыл бұрын
ESPECIALLY Snyder!! He doesn’t understand these characters AT ALL and they’ve been around for 80+ years
@iClone316
@iClone316 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Affleck no longer being Batman is the best news I've heard.
@motorolalasershot
@motorolalasershot 6 жыл бұрын
my fix!
@davidmockbro
@davidmockbro 6 жыл бұрын
42oodles you were first!
@NikiWonoto26
@NikiWonoto26 6 жыл бұрын
always love your smart & deep analysis
@motheusoficial5970
@motheusoficial5970 3 жыл бұрын
It is time
@alberto1583
@alberto1583 6 жыл бұрын
Just discovered your channel, I've checked out a handful of your videos so far and I'm really impressed. Keep up the great content man!
@alberto1583
@alberto1583 6 жыл бұрын
Also I wouldn't mind a connective universe regarding the league members but I would love DC having an Anthology universe as well. Maybe they could do both without confusing the audiance, if both properties can distinguish themselves properly. If it was one or the other I would have to choose stand alone films.
@blueknight1109
@blueknight1109 6 жыл бұрын
I mean, just fire Zack Synder
@ShotaxNinja
@ShotaxNinja 6 жыл бұрын
BlueKnight his fired like a year ago
@memecliparchives2254
@memecliparchives2254 6 жыл бұрын
BlueKnight I mean just destroy Warner Bros and give DC to a legit company that would actually care.
@blueknight1109
@blueknight1109 6 жыл бұрын
Zachle Mentor Yeah, I think Disney did its part with buying FOX, so I hope they’re done buying other studios or big parts of a studio. But I agree.
@JohnKing-qy7cp
@JohnKing-qy7cp 6 жыл бұрын
BlueKnight They need Zack Snyder back.....because he's the reason their movies did well with general audiences .....if you would stop being so stupid you would see the clear fact that the only movie that did bad at the box office was the only movie WB changed from his vision...
@blueknight1109
@blueknight1109 6 жыл бұрын
John King looks like I hit a nerve
@CelestialDraconis
@CelestialDraconis 6 жыл бұрын
In a alternate universe, the DCEU and the Justice League are thriving and are the biggest talk. Bigger than The Avengers and almost as big as Star Wars. Bringing the same feeling that the Justice League animated series did. In an alternate universe....
@benphilp9872
@benphilp9872 6 жыл бұрын
DC just needs to find a sweet spot that marvel hasn't touched and explore different genres to make each movie different (unlike marvel). Also they should finish make these films they have anounced instead of announcing 20 in pre production films. I have massive faith in dc, I hope others do to.
@kledyrelacion9866
@kledyrelacion9866 6 жыл бұрын
Then they have to do it fast. Marvel already touched many other movie genres, like Teen Drama (Spider-Man Homecoming), Political Thriller (Captain America The Winter Soldier), Sci-Fi Adventure (Guardians of The Galaxy) ecc.
@boewin756
@boewin756 6 жыл бұрын
B Philp - DC have a poor track record in live action, but that’s WB’s fault. The only franchises they’ve had in the 21st century that people have largely enjoyed are the Dark Knight trilogy and Wonder Woman. Meanwhile, Marvel has made about a dozen nobodies household names by having relative autonomy from Disney. I have faith in DC; their DCAU is good. But WB runs the movies, and I have no faith there.
@kevrokka.d.9749
@kevrokka.d.9749 6 жыл бұрын
Your first sentence is why DC will always lag behind Marvel. Notice how Marvel just does what it does best and DC needs to alter itself around Marvel? DC doesn't have a cohesive identity.
@roycastanon5754
@roycastanon5754 6 жыл бұрын
Kevrokk Kills no it did until we got justice league and they did the whedon reshoots. Then everything just got completely off track
@OldClassicGamer
@OldClassicGamer 6 жыл бұрын
DC should make brand new Cinematic Universe with films that would tie together Superman Returns and Dark Knight trilogy and try to shape future movies to be in same universe as there. I know Superman Returns and Dark Knight trilogy were not ever meant to be in shared universe but some new movie should connect those two somehow. Current DCEU is not working good at all.
@terrenceseidel169
@terrenceseidel169 6 жыл бұрын
They need to write the movies, like the comic books.
@bobross1829
@bobross1829 2 жыл бұрын
"Maybe just let directors do their thing and do not even check up on them" WWII- uh oh, never mind
@auntpatty7172
@auntpatty7172 Жыл бұрын
Welp
@peggypeng1286
@peggypeng1286 5 жыл бұрын
Nope. You haven’t seen aqua man yet
@anthony88888888
@anthony88888888 6 жыл бұрын
Adding darkness to mcu secret sauce😂😂😂, also RC Cola , man you made me laugh this video
@subhadeepdas396
@subhadeepdas396 6 жыл бұрын
DC movies should be more driven towards character driven story until this point except WW and MOS all of them has been plot driven
@tiymakoizau
@tiymakoizau 6 жыл бұрын
I would love to see effective and accurate DC Movies.. but the only thing is that I feel their is no real heart or real connection that makes us believe that DC Movies are what we love in the DC universe. They can fix this easily by letting real fans who care about the DC Universe do the scripting or directing. Like the MCU whose Movie writers and creators are real fans of The Marvel Universe and it really does show through out the Films records, it's the REAL reason why they are more successful. I really do love DC and Marvel Universe and I would love to see real accurate and faithful adaptions of the DC Universe into Movies.
@collegerebel
@collegerebel 6 жыл бұрын
Why the RC Cola crack? I used to love RC Cola as a kid. Actually, is it still being made?
@lonelysith66
@lonelysith66 6 жыл бұрын
collegerebel yes it is! 🤣
@unholyallen9572
@unholyallen9572 6 жыл бұрын
I think it will focus more on standalones : Aquaman ( 2018 ) Shazam ( 2019 ) WW 2 ( 2019 ) GLC ( 2020 ) Flash ( 2020 ) Batman ( 2020 )
@KnotJuly
@KnotJuly 6 жыл бұрын
There's people doing simple edits on this movie here on KZbin , re-scoring it and adding the deleted scenes (Znyder's ones) and it just improves the movie like A LOT , not saying it saves it , but it's better . It was just that simple
@lunatic4152
@lunatic4152 6 жыл бұрын
KnotJuly nope. Snyder still made a bad movie in fact a worse movie. Those edits are some from joss and others from snyders their mixing it and the soundtrack doesn't make a movie good.
@KnotJuly
@KnotJuly 6 жыл бұрын
CHESCOchannel oh boy if you say that a soundtrack doesn't improve a movie ... . Look up this Re-scored scenes here and watch it yourself.
@lunatic4152
@lunatic4152 6 жыл бұрын
KnotJuly I never said it doesn't improve a movie, I said it doesn't make a movie good. It's a bigger difference loom at bvs great soundtrack but bad movie.
@roycastanon5754
@roycastanon5754 6 жыл бұрын
CHESCOchannel it’s not a bad movie dude. Screw what the critics have to say and think for yourself. I didn’t like BvS at first because the reviews sites and critics said it was bad so I thought I must be wrong. But I watched it months later and I still liked it,that’s when I realized fuck the critics and biased review sites like rotten tomatoes. I actually like this movie .
@Mystravian
@Mystravian 6 жыл бұрын
Those scenes are usually also re edited in a way that would not work in the film.
@TCGJake
@TCGJake 6 жыл бұрын
Dude I love your voice I wish it came out of my pillow when I fell asleep
@TheBlackLion001
@TheBlackLion001 6 жыл бұрын
I think If they copied Marvel even more so by giving each character a solo film before the team up films things would be a lot better for the universe.
@timesreacher6676
@timesreacher6676 6 жыл бұрын
The Black Lion right because Black widow and Hawkeye got solo movies before Avengers,stfu.
@siddhantsharma7728
@siddhantsharma7728 6 жыл бұрын
Times Reacher They are Minor Characters.... And Black Widow was ALREADY introduced. No one cares about Hawkeye anyway.
@timesreacher6676
@timesreacher6676 6 жыл бұрын
Siddhant Sharma Yeah,then what is the problem with introducing Awuaman,flash and cyborg.well atleast cyborg.
@siddhantsharma7728
@siddhantsharma7728 6 жыл бұрын
Times Reacher HawkEye is one character while we have 4 in Justice League including the villian.
@IndecisiveJR
@IndecisiveJR 6 жыл бұрын
Times Reacher Also your comparing Hawkeye to the Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg. I think Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg deserve solo films more so than Hawkeye. Hawkeye and Black Widow are minor characters and aren’t as important as Captain America, Thor, etc. and I think Flash, Aquaman, and Cyborg are more important to the Justice League team than Hawkeye is to the avengers.
@beastmaster64nm19
@beastmaster64nm19 6 жыл бұрын
Love the mini clips inbetween
@cian2168
@cian2168 6 жыл бұрын
The DCEU only exists because it worked for Marvel. What they should do is forget about the universe part, except for justice league 2. And possibly for Flashpoint.
@benwillis2799
@benwillis2799 6 жыл бұрын
Great video. I think you hit the nail on the head: the problem has been WB trying to put out all these crossovers and team-ups without waiting to see if there was any actual demand first. A major reason the MCU worked is because Iron Man was such a smash hit that audiences wanted to see more of this character and eventually this universe, so when Captain America and Thor were also successful, people were pumped to see The Avengers. The DCEU went about this in the exact opposite way. They began with an extremely divisive film, followed it up with an even more negatively received sequel, and then were like "How would you like to see these people team up with Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg?" By that point, audiences had been burned so badly that Wonder Woman was pretty much the only selling point to get people interested in the Justice League, and unfortunately, despite how big a hit her movie was, that clearly wasn't enough. Going forward, just try to make good movies. One at a time. If people like those and respond well? MAYBE consider doing another Justice League movie. But not before. Stop counting your chickens before they hatch.
@hurricane0basketball
@hurricane0basketball 6 жыл бұрын
Ooh never been this early!
@sarahelisabeth247
@sarahelisabeth247 3 жыл бұрын
4:29 hawkman never fails to make me crack up his costume is so funny
@direttorejoe50
@direttorejoe50 6 жыл бұрын
Marvel: Oh my god what the hell happened them Jesus Christ but we dont have to worry about it just look at black panthers numbers Dc: uh what now do we have anything planned or coming out uh oh yeah but untill December yep were screwed time to sell
@Toastcat890
@Toastcat890 6 жыл бұрын
We will like see a Black Lighting or Vixen movie to compete and it will likely suck ass.
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 6 жыл бұрын
The question is though whether or not Black Panther is an outlier. It most likely is.
@Toastcat890
@Toastcat890 6 жыл бұрын
suemorphplus2009 I don't think so if they are smart and try to tell a good story the next Black Panther movie could be just as successful look at how well Infinity War did if Marvel can keep that level of story telling up they should be just fine.
@jerrymalerry8452
@jerrymalerry8452 6 жыл бұрын
I recently found your channel, and I love your content!!!
@johnsmithee6660
@johnsmithee6660 6 жыл бұрын
I think the DCEU has already ended itself
@crimson5pider
@crimson5pider 6 жыл бұрын
They just need to start over and do it right rather than rush it. Especially after infinity war
@indolentlard8612
@indolentlard8612 6 жыл бұрын
Hey, RC taste fine
@captainmidnight
@captainmidnight 6 жыл бұрын
Jamie. Are your taste buds okay?
@indolentlard8612
@indolentlard8612 6 жыл бұрын
captainmidnight yeah, I think its just decent but not bad haha
@jamesostendorf1518
@jamesostendorf1518 3 жыл бұрын
The real question is: did it really start?
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 6 жыл бұрын
Release the Snyder cut
@MAT7OPS
@MAT7OPS 6 жыл бұрын
The 80's Wolf never gonna happen
@The80sWolf_
@The80sWolf_ 6 жыл бұрын
I know, so nothing to look forward to in DC universe. Marvel has like Venom, that will be nice to see but superheroe movies are dead to me.
@lukefrederiks5906
@lukefrederiks5906 6 жыл бұрын
They should take tips from the Batman Telltale series, taking old characters in new directions and giving a studio lots of freedom and room to work with.
@mohammadekramfaruquefahim194
@mohammadekramfaruquefahim194 6 жыл бұрын
1. JL is the only DC film that flopped. 2. DCEU just crossed over 3 billion with only 5 films so altogether that's hardly a loss. 3. Aquaman finished shooting, Shazam is almost done, Wonder Woman 2 is casting actors, Suicide Squad 2, Deathstroke, Nightwing, Batman and Flashpoint have directors officially signed on. Nope, DCEU isn't going anywhere. Let them make films instead of constantly dissing them for not being Marvel.
@lunatic4152
@lunatic4152 6 жыл бұрын
Mohammad Ekram Faruque Fahim their films are bad dude. Making so many movies to earn money. Sadly your right they will not go anywhere so thank god I'm both a fan of marvel and dc so if dc fails I still have marvel. And making dc like marvel is a terrible idea.
@Mystravian
@Mystravian 6 жыл бұрын
BvS and Justice league both are RELATIVE flops. They wanted BvS to hit a billion as a starting point for success.
@mohammadekramfaruquefahim194
@mohammadekramfaruquefahim194 6 жыл бұрын
All baseless rumours. Affleck leaving DCEU being the hottest among them despite every time it's being debunked by Affleck himself. Flashpoint stopped? Are you high? John Francis Dailey and Jonathan Goldstein are signed on to direct. And please, Batman v Superman? You call 873.6 million a flop? Considering all the critics bashing on it it's a surprise it made so much. It's definitely not great but it's far from being a bad film, same for JL. Let you remind you once again of the movies that are announced: 1. Aquaman 2. Shazam 3. WW2 4. SS2 5. Deathstroke 6. Nightwing 7. Batman 8. Flashpoint 9. Cyborg 10. GL Corps 11. Gotham City Sirens 12. Joker 13. oh I almost forgot about Booster Gold It's ok to "fail" once in a while (in MCU standards, which is not saying much), what's not ok is wanting someone to fail.
@Mystravian
@Mystravian 6 жыл бұрын
Mohammad Ekram Faruque Fahim yes. Less than 1 Billion is a failure for BvS. It failed to do as expected. Success is achieving a goal. Just as a student can 'fail' a test despite getting a B or C.
@Mystravian
@Mystravian 6 жыл бұрын
With that said, the flagship failure of justice league is indicative of the general population's opinion of the brand.
@wienzard93
@wienzard93 6 жыл бұрын
your videos are on point. Damnit I want more stand alone DC movies like wonder woman and Nolan's Batman!
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