CAR MANUFACTURES ON THE BRINK OF COLLAPSE ?

[@nolanseymour5172]

No one is forcing you to buy a new car. Just keep what you’ve got. They are the biggest waste of money you’ll ever spend.

[@boyasaka]

@@nolanseymour5172 yup Wel said The cars most people are driving today will last another 15 to 20 years no problem at all I’ve had my car 9 years , it’s now 11 years old And I’m keeping it another 9 years

[@Rawdil]

Easier said then done when road tax and parking permits will increase substantially over EV cars.

[@ahmedtanvirchowdhury550]

Sadiq Khan forced me to buy a newer car by extending ULEZ. And I only bought my old Desile car because I was told Desile produced less pollution.

[@PMurphy-p9f]

2017 ford Focus 1.5tdci St line without Ad blue very little trouble from it At 240000km trying to get it to to 270000km

[@Jack-lo1uc]

​@@ahmedtanvirchowdhury550 Ulez fines aren't enforceable

[@01matthewc]

This ridiculous petrol/ diesel vehicle ban needs to be scrapped, the sooner the better. Let electric vehicles compete against ICE & hybrid vehicles on a level playing field, and if EV's are any good, they'll start to have a large percentage of the market.

[@stevehayward1854]

There has been no Subsidy for EV's since 2022 and yet their sales are increasing annually. Ev's are a far superior product to unreliable ICE cars, they require no servicing, no brake pad/disc replacement as they very seldom use their brakes due to regen braking, no oil or filter changes, no timing belt/chain replacement, the only water that needs topping up is the screen wash, no plugs, no exhaust to rot, the EV motor and battery lasts for 100's of thousands of miles, cheap or even free fuel, advanced technology, Tesla come with Netflix, Computer games, Spotify, Disney Channel, screens in the back for the kids to be entertained, driver profiles so the car automatically changes the steering wheel, seat position, mirrors, heating temperature and duct position, driving dynamics etc etc even carries on playing your Spotify where you left off listening in the house, it will also check your Calendar and drive you to your next appointment. Driving a Tesla makes every other car seem dumb

[@stevehayward1854]

PS One of my Teslas is a performance model which does 0-60 in 3 seconds and 160 mph and still only cost 5p per mile or 0p if the sun is shining on my solar panels

[@namAlexander]

what they don't get is they are completely useless when it comes to vans and tippers, trade will grind to a halt

[@typxxilps]

You are right, but yyou have no clue about the price for the damages CO2 emissions will cost you then. Use your brain cause we have to raise the dykes over and over again and those bills are pretty high. UK has to raise the CO2 emissions on each liter gas and then you will start to think twice about your nice competition idea Use your brain cause the manufacturers have already made the decision. the germans wanna get rid of ice, they wanna strict EV and no excemptions, the CEOs and the boards. You will see soon higher Gas prices based on Co2 emission rights within 2 years and then you will see the reality. And I have worked 35 years for the industry from the 4 rings to the stars of the oldest car manufacturer, where we had the discussions 20 years ago and the reason why I left and went on to the company that is making the biggest profits and has also produced tractors after the war. Pay our dykes , pay for the refugee waves we have taken not the UK. If people face climate change then they will start moving as our farmers have to change what wheat they are seeding. And i can tell you what will happen quite soon from the old industry. Spare part prices for your ice will explode . Simple as that if you wanna drive ice you will pay the full price whiich is not the price of today.

[@robt2151]

@@stevehayward1854 Must be excellent for quick trips to the tip with your garden rubbish.

[@richardjohntierney5434]

There is too much tech on modern cars. Pushing the price up, cheap, and basic is the way to go.

[@DaveBarnes1]

Agree. There are some new low cost, low complexity cars hitting the market now, but it's taken them a while to get here. I'm sure they will be a big seller.

[@robhines4537]

Legislation

[@peterrolt6403]

Bureaucratic meddling in things they know nothing about

[@ibrstellar1080]

They want us into EV's and modern cars as they'll have the ability to switch them off remotely and introduce Pay per mile.

[@shanepatrick641]

​@DaveBarnes1 do you know which ones they are? Can you name them please?

[@alcord2540]

The only problem is government bullying.They will not force their choices on the people.The manufacturers are paying the price for government ignorence.

[@186000mps]

Absolutely bang on mate !! It’s a shower of shite

[@Bri-yt2pv]

but ultimately the agenda is less cars and the public controlled maybe they should look at Cuba and see how they got around no new cars for decades people will always find away against tyrannical oppression of sanctions etc

[@gazzab3224]

True

[@HappyBagger]

But the daft manufacturers then go on asking for "more help for consumers" rather than "end this mandate, let the free market do its thing"

[@derekfleming3095]

@@HappyBagger because they have to get back the billions they've invested in this EV that the vast majority don’t want

[@matthewgodwin3050]

The answer, as always, is to remove the cause of the problem. And the problem is moronic governments implementing mandates that force manufacturers to produce a product nobody wants to buy.

[@rob5944]

Exactly. Anybody could see this happening months ago. Electricity is the wrong technology for clean transportation, requiring far too much work in power generation, distribution and outlet. Pan-European import tarrifs must be put in place and EV mandates scrapped if we're to aviod wholesale decimation of the entire car industry. Alas I fear governments won't, because they don't like admitting they're wrong.

[@GT380man]

Indeed & they know perfectly well what the effects will be. To damage mass car manufacturing businesses, terminally. I know it sounds ridiculous but I foresee some of the German & French manufacturers going out of business next year or the year after. I’m almost certain that if bankruptcy is avoided, they will be radically downsized in annual output, profitability and staffing. This is a deliberate strategy. The impacts are so unavoidably clear and large that there isn’t really any doubt that the outcome WAS the objective of policy.

[@rob5944]

@GT380man why would they want to do that?

[@matthewgodwin3050]

@@rob5944 Haven't you politicians? They're all daft in the head, and they only know how to do stupid.

[@noisyboy7348]

Who is to blame ? WEF club in my opinion!

[@Hardup78]

Yeah that bald bastard who thinks he’s god

[@MrMackem123]

Yup every inch of this has been planned by the wall kissers.

[@The_Noticer.]

Ah yes, the blame-everything non-organization that has no soft or hard power.

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

@@The_Noticer. By their own statements they have infiltrated many governments.

[@UnusSedLeo-w5l]

The UN or Assad, I am not sure.

[@paulmatthews9366]

People who aren't engineers making engineering decisions based on magical thinking at other people's expense

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

💯 correct thanks 🎉😊

[@ouethojlkjn]

This is why Tesla is the number one selling car in the world because it is built by engineers who are not marketing managers

[@GT380man]

Interesting that you choose to see this as cock up, not conspiracy. I regret to say I think it’s conspiracy all day long.

[@excalibur9768]

EV are about control, not 'saving the planet'.

[@GT380man]

Spot on. Anyone who refuses to see this is my enemy.

[@bEEBO178]

The government don't control you with fuel duty and VAT? OK 😂

[@ianhamilton3113]

Explain!

[@ianhamilton3113]

@@GT380man How is it spot on? Neither of you have bothered to say.

[@roberttucker805]

Buy an EV and get a free smart meter.

[@MrChriss000]

My thoughts on that is, Mr Fawkes was on the right track.

[@alcorfield1157]

UK & EU governments seem hell bent on destroying manufacturing in Europe ...... the last of the proper well paid manufacturing jobs .....its so so tragic

[@stevejewiss532]

No they’re doing that themselves , by being arrogant and lazy !

[@MRW515]

@@stevejewiss532 governments create the environment for business. Governments do this through tax and regulations. Who are you accusing of being arrogant and lazy?

[@Rawdil]

You will own nothing and be happy.

[@johndoe-qg7jp]

​@@RawdilYep 👍🏾 That's what they want 😮

[@gmc9451]

I think the manufacturers themselves are complicit with the agenda at the top level.

[@fredflintstone1]

It is not just the EV market it is the whole Net Zero rubbish, led by ED MIlliband

[@hughblack6831]

With closed down all our industries, mining, steel, car manufacturing etc so we can blow our own trumpets and claim how "green" we are. The fact we're bust and using candles for lighting hasn't occurred to the likes of Millibland.

[@markstanton5882]

The current rules came in under the prior government

[@obesetuna3164]

Absolutely. We have a government that is overtly trying their best to make any kind of manufacturing extinct.

[@julianfranck6425]

Net Zero rubbish. So we carry on importing our energy at the whim of whichever country wants to switch us off. Remember what happened to fuel when Russia had a go at Ukraine.

[@ricco123tube]

Can you explain what is net zero? Why is the wholesale price of electricity linked to gas, which is expensive? Why should we send our hard-earned British pounds to foreign countries to buy their fossil fuels that we then just burn? North sea oil is sold on the free market and we then have to buy it back at market value. Once again, the oil giants make the biggest profits. The UK is perfectly positioned to be energy independent. If only we spent some thoughtful time building some incredible infrastructure with the technologies and industries that we have here in the UK.

[@larna-nicole6205]

New cars are far too expensive and not realisticly affordable to many people, it's sad times

[@fomalhaut9]

This has always been the case. Most people buy second hand cars

[@GT380man]

@@fomalhaut9true, but it’s worse now than it’s ever been.

[@larna-nicole6205]

@@fomalhaut9 yes they do but even 3-4 year old cars are still very expensive compared to how things were pre covid

[@derekfleming3095]

The uk needs to drop all this green nonsense We could be net zero tomorrow and in the grand scheme of things it would make zero difference As a country we are broke and this nonsense will be the final nail

[@hughblack6831]

Oh come on - Millibland and Starmer have said that hundreds of thousands of new green jobs will be created. In China..........................🤨

[@bajan2101]

Real talk… we as a nation gone soft..

[@MidnightSouls]

In my opinion, it's just the opposite. The UK can't afford not to transition. We aren't a fossil fuel rich nation any more. North Sea oil and gas peaked 25 years ago and production has declined ever since, to where we're now squeezing out the dregs - not through any overzealous taxation or green mandate as some would have you believe, but because the reserves are simply gone, mostly used up. What's left is less and less economical to exploit. Wind (and solar) are now, by some margin, the cheapest form of electricity production worldwide, hence why everyone else the world over, even the lone star state - oil rich Texas is now leading the US in renewables deployed. It's simply economics. The UK has a great deal of very powerful wind. Our wind resources are some of the most energy dense on the planet (though more intermittent than say the Great Plains, which are more consistent but less powerful). The UK could and invariably will (free market economics are now driving the investment here) become an energy exporting superpower once more, selling our abundant clean wind energy to Europe. I know this comment was mostly a response to EV mandates, but the electrification of our grid and weening the nation off fossil fuel imports can only be a good and wealth generating thing for Britain, though it is obviously causing some short term growing pains in a moribund and slow-to-adapt european car market.

[@SDK2006b]

^ Exactly - fossil fuel (gas) sets the UK electricity price, even if 1% is generated from gas and the rest is renewable sources, it’s all priced as if 100% comes from gas. Which we have zero influence over the wholesale price 😬 Only a matter time before oil and fuel goes the same way, as nearly all of it comes from other countries.

[@billyruffian1426]

@@MidnightSouls If you what you claim is true then people would be flocking to EVs, no mandates would be required. Wind and solar might be competitive at the margin in some places, but not for the base load. Nuclear is the only viable and environmentally acceptable option. Even imported oil and gas are a cheaper and better deal than covering and desecrating the land with turbines and panels, which would require a policy of constant replacement and renewal (and disposal), whilst the North Sea has plenty of oil and gas yet to be found and exploited; it's just that there's no political will. Just this year the largest find in two decades was announced, and that with minimal exploration. Net Zero will be the impoverishment and destruction of Britain, and all to address a problem which doesn't exist.

[@jayc342009]

It always seems the case that where the government involves itself, it just doesn't work. We need less government meddling in this country.

[@laurieproctor3572]

The cost of new cars here in the Uk is ridiculous now, through inflation, greed whatever. The costs have rocketed the last 10 years. Never been an interest to me, plus with the newer environmentally saving vehicles having no end of expensive issues. That in a time where everyone is squeezed through the increasing costs of essentials you can’t live without, living costs. Every clean modern engine seems to be problematic. Dpfs egr systems etc plague modern vehicles. Pre 2012 cars/vans seem to be the best in terms of simplicity and engineering.

[@cortina64]

We should look to encourage smaller cars with very good fuel economy on our overcrowded roads. EV’s are probably not the answer for most of us.

[@MrDuncl]

Hybrids are yet according to the Government a Ford Kuga PHEV is a luxury car. Negotiating a discount to under £40K won't help as the luxury tax is based on RRP. Note to Ford. Do the opposite of what you do to avoid the Courier Chicken tax in the USA. Sell the car for £39999 with the back seats an accessory that are purchased later.

[@ouethojlkjn]

The cheapest car you can buy in the UK is an EV . It is very small very economical to run very manoeuverable with large interior space . People keep banging on about TVs are the problem it isn’t manufacturers building cars no one can afford. Except of course it may be Dacia

[@johnathanpearson3203]

​@@ouethojlkjn A small 1.2 car like a KA can take me on the motorway for 140 miles round trip to see my mom. A small electric car won't. Especially if there is a traffic jam and it's cold outside.

[@davidclarke9767]

Since I passed my driving test in 1964 we had several car factories in Coventry were I lived, but we have lost Austin, Morris. Hillman, Singer, Humber, Triumph, Sunbeam, Armstrong Siddeley, Jowett, Lea Francis, Wolseley, Riley, some might say MG. Not many left before it's all over.

[@Nick-io9uk]

I sometimes wonder - who killed more once great brands. GM or British leyland?

[@johnbellamy6449]

i also passed my test at Nuneaton about 1967 . visited Standard Triumph on a school visit . also Reliant at Tamworth . i will not buy a chinese motorbike or car and never electric . i used to deliver to Longbridge also . sad times now .

[@piff1988]

They were making below average cars, thats why they went out of business. The Japanese and Germans came along with cars that started every morning and were reliable enough so 'her in doors' could own one without being a semi qualified mechanic.

[@bigvinny333]

Also Ryton on Dunsmore Chrysler/Talbot/Peugeot was a stones throw from Coventry.

[@johnathanpearson3203]

​@@piff1988Rover used Honda engines and were reliable. But the British government did not want a tie up with the Japanese and rover so the reliability went away as there was no more money to develop the rover engines until the Chinese came along. More government interference.😮

[@johnmaurer2035]

The Average Joe doesn't want a EV.

[@mlann2333]

Don't want a Chinese one that's all

[@boyasaka]

@@mlann2333yet I bet you have a television . Mobile phone , fridge freezer , washing machine , trainers , jeans , t shirts , laptops , speakers , watch , light bulbs , ALL manufactured in the far east

[@gravemind6536]

@@boyasaka All my electrials and appliances are from Japan or South Korea and white goods German. Japanese and South Korea make good stuff.

[@boyasaka]

@@gravemind6536 you will end up driving a Kia EV then 👌

[@tazzatamania]

Average Joe wants an EV but not for 30 years until the technology is fit for purpose. Neither the range nor the speed of charging is even close yet and the prices aren't for most people.

[@MrRedfreds]

I live in Washington, close to Nissan, if they close the knock on effect will be crippling.

[@barrieroberts75]

But you area voted for Brexit which has not helped with exporting to Europe

[@jeffmtitanium1]

Wake up, Brexit is/was not the issue​, delve deeper@@barrieroberts75

[@wezist]

​@@barrieroberts75 Yeah but that isn't really the problem tho is if....

[@klawlor3659]

​​@@barrieroberts75just as well the EU managed to persuade Ford to stay in Southampton then, isn't it? Oh and not forgetting how the EU saved Rover back in the 2000s. Wow and if only Dyson had listened to the EU and not relocated his plant from Wales to South East Asia eh? The miracle that is the European Fourth Reich, sorry union! Serious note here old son. Nissan doesn't have an issue with exporting to Europe. It has certain red tape like any other business, but when I see the hundreds of Irish plated lorries taking their cars away I'm fairly sure these cars are going into the European market. The main issue, like in many other businesses, is government interference in the free market.

[@bearingthebrunt3650]

Absolutely. I hate to think of how crippling it would be. I live local too & six of my family work in the Nissan plant. It's extremely worrying

[@ehnl6534]

Fully agree with your remarks. I live in the centre of Amsterdam and they now want to ban all ICE-cars from within the A10 Ring Road starting in 2030. So not just losing my parking permit, but not being allowed to drive to my front door... No word on what I will have to do with my car, or how I am supposed to get groceries in. Surely they can't force me to do my grocery shopping online? I agree something needs to be done, but not like this and not at this pace!

[@GT380man]

Yes, they intend to force you. The means will be mandatory digital ID, followed by intentional financial collapse, which will delete cash, leaving only central bank digital currencies. At this point, you’ll do exactly what you’re told or you’ll be fined automatically until you comply. It’s also nothing to do with getting us into EV, but about destroying the ICE car mass manufacturing sector. Those pushing all this intend that we useless eaters don’t own private transport.

[@Seaside33]

Totally agree.... car manufacturers need to stand up too

[@glpilpi6209]

It might not seem obvious but I believe it's the beginning of the end of the privately owned cheap petrol / diesel car. It has about five or six years left and once they stop making those they will quickly disappear as they get scrapped or taxed off the road. The manufacturers are having to pay huge government levies if they go over production quotas , forced to make expensive low range EVs nobody wants or can't charge that end up sitting in field's. Motoring as we know it is gradually being removed .

[@pigknickers2975]

Also see what's happening to the roads, they are being left to decay. It's all part of the agenda 2030 stuff. Wake up people this is happening and there is very little chance of stopping it.

[@julianfranck6425]

Good.

[@shanepatrick641]

​@julianfranck6425 no it's not good

[@glpilpi6209]

No point in replying to julianfranck it's a bot channel with no content. AI .

[@richlee509]

Governments WEF Milliband

[@timdavies3162]

Our country is in a sad state governments getting involved with things they should leave alone forcing evs on us. We just don’t want them. It’s the same with the coal fired stations being closed down

[@damianleah6744]

It’s not just this country

[@DarrellBethell]

Very insightful! I feel so much more informed now I have read your comment.

[@lewlewis6511]

Its all about energy, without cheap reliable energy you can't have a manfaucturing base, Germany is currently discovering this too.

[@JohnRochford-w4r]

The drive for net zero is a massive scam, we need to get rid of all this none sense

[@andrewpreston4127]

Luddites, ostriches, heads in sand are what comes to mind when I read comments like yours.

[@joelincoln6560]

Ah the government. On one hand taxing us to oblivion, on the other hand forcing us to buy more expensive cars we cannot afford.

[@davew8988]

Nothing to do with sanctions and the millions of pounds given foc (your taxes) to UkrIaine then?

[@thomaswalker1258]

The Luton plant is also closing because it was the one out of Europe that is costing the most to keep running therefore isn’t viable for Stellantis to keep it going because it looks like Stellantis is having money problems itself having a huge backlog of its vehicles because they aren’t selling. The Luton plant was the easiest target out of the other factories. Great video and I always watch these interesting videos.

[@ridenorthdowns1159]

Probably because Labour is cosying up to china too. EU has put tariffs on Chinese cars, UK hasnt. So why should an EU brand support UK jobs if the Starmer government doesnt support EU companies in the UK. I am not a huge EU fan but they are our closest business partners and if we treat them this way then why should they treat us well. Starmer is selling the UK out to China and there will be nothing in return.

[@greghayes5712]

Stellantis is a basket case of too many disparate brands that have little in common except poor build quality, poor reliability and poor resales so hardly a winning combination. Peugeot bought Rootes/chrysler operations in the 70s and it almost bankrupted them , only saved by the 205. History is now repeating and stellantis will probably be on the verge of collapse in the next few years , that’s just down to terrible brand’s & management. GM’s plant in Luton was viable when in bed with Renault who are a big seller of commercials in Europe & the closure was on the horizon for the last year or so not just down to EV mandate

[@MrDuncl]

@@greghayes5712 Last week I was looking at the Alfa Romeo Junior. A good looking car but how many variations of the same EV do Stellantis need ?

[@peterjeremymckenzie8444]

The Ellesmere Port plant is half empty and can easily take Lutons production, this was decided months ago. Lee forgets the bigger picture, that these companies made massive profits for 30 years in China, built up massive debt on the promise of continuing big profits. The Chinese built up EV production in full sight of these firms, they did not react, they have now lost the market in China (1/3 of world market for new cars) and are losing market share in the rest of the world. The debt will bring them down, Toyota first most likely. Mandates are a side show.

[@alanpatterson2759]

Lad, i tell you this, there is a plan! A plan which has been worked on for many a year. We don't have a copy of the plan, so we don't see the plan. But the plan is coming along just fine, and when the plan takes hold we'll be sure to feel the full effects of the plan!

[@1must723]

images.app.goo.gl/9WpsBfoSXTWubGTA8 there is our future its been online from march 2020

[@EgoShredder]

Oy vey! Quiet or they will realise what is being done to them!

[@julianfranck6425]

Take your tin foil hat off.

[@tomstrutton4351]

What’s the plan!!.?…I need to plan for it

[@FredFox-m9v]

de-industrialisation and net zero is the plan, in all it's forms.

[@WOTArtyNoobs]

The current government will get heavily criticised for destroying British industry when they promised to boost it merely because they set the deadline back to 2030 instead of 2035.

[@gregorjack2629]

We have a political system and politicians who are not fit for purpose either in the UK or the West. No way was any risk management or meaningful analysis carried out to support the decision to run with the EV mandate particularly in the current timescale.

[@MyJon64]

It's all working the way the government want it to

[@johnelliott9415]

Seems that way but we are more powerful than they are there’s more of us people need to wake up to this nonsense

[@julianfranck6425]

Absolute twaddle. Take your tin foil hat off.

[@ohyesitsme]

@@johnelliott9415 When has that ever happened?

[@LeeUK2]

Which is ?

[@bryanadams4436]

Cracking podcast as usual Lee bollocks to the Ev'S Hydrogen might work but electric Nah

[@pccorner101]

If every motor manufacturer stood together and refused to implement the EV targets and then refused to pay the fines what the hell could the government do…..absolutely nothing, that’s what.

[@BRIAN.GORE.]

TYPICAL. LOONEY. LEFT. IDEOLOGY. YOU. CANNOT. BUT. WHAT. YOU. CANT. AFFORD. AS. WE. PRODUCE. 1% C .O. 2. ITS. A. JOKE!!

[@jbbumpkin]

I reckon most EVs are sold or leased to businesses who buy them to "tick boxes" and earn brownie points.

[@carukchannel]

They did have massive incentive for EV on company car tax policy's although the government is now trying to withdraw them

[@andrewmaiden3738]

@@carukchannel It isn't just that, behind the scenes the vehicle manufacturers are offering huge discounts, not to the dealers or Joe public, but the leasing companies, Hire Co's and large fleets to shift inventories and get the numbers. They buy them up, put out the attractive looking rental deals knowing the capital outlay is recovered over a typical 3 or 4 yr period. Then at the end of that period the vehicles hit the used market where the Lease and Fleet companies hope to make their return. If the market is bouyant for the models they really make a killing. They will be now working on the basis that the market for used EV vehicle will rise with Green pressures looming. I won't name the Mfg's but as a fleet buyer periodically when pressures were on Mfg's for whatever reason: overstocs, end of ranges, Euro emission changes it was not unusual to be offered 47-50% discount. The only ones who didn't really play that game were the Germanic ones. The dealers never get a sniff at those deals because the majority of them couldn't takke the quantities. Watch the used market at auctions and yyou can usually spot the deals previously done when gluts of particular makes and models start hitting the block...

[@mightbeanybody]

Only 3% of the total sales are EVs to private buyers.

[@mbak7801]

And pass them onto their employees as part of salary sacrifice scheme. One person in my Family has done that already, another is negotiating a lease now. I already have an EV as well as my old ICE car. The salary sacrifice cars are very popular and not showing up in the stats.

[@bigfluffytowels]

Yes.....but the company car has always been a thing.

[@tomoreilly9932]

Too costly,range not enough,I mean who wants to have a van that could die half way through the working day, government is destroying motor industry,which will mean 100s of thousands of workers across the sector out of work

[@ouethojlkjn]

I’m afraid the evidence doesn’t stick up for your assertion DPD will only buy electric vans now and the cheapest car you can buy in the UK is an EV .....

[@strongtheme]

Government trying to con us and ranting on about climate nonsense whilst they drive round in V8 Audis and Range Rovers laughing at us as they do with everything else.

[@julianfranck6425]

That's because British manufactures are not providing them with Electric cars. They cannot be seen in a non-British car. So the answer is our manufactures need to get their finger out before the Chinese or Koreans steal their market.

[@johnskidmoor-e5b]

Animal Farm

[@julianfranck6425]

@johnskidmoor-e5b Great book. Not sure what it has to do with the motor industry. A motor industry in the UK that is no longer foreign owned. Remember British Leyland cars strikes and rubbish built cars.

[@johnskidmoor-e5b]

@@julianfranck6425 All cars were rubbish built back then but we had a solid work force and ethic along with a Christian Tradition with a country making things people wanted around the world (cars being part of that) and paying our way. Now we have £3 Trillion Debt and because of its ever increasing size it now has a new mate. Its called a Black Hole.

[@tonymaiorano2749]

Do what we say, not what we do ( govt ).

[@stanthesteelguitarman8228]

I see no "cheap" cars on the market today - new or old! Only six years ago, cars were 1/2 to 2/3rds the prices they are today, yet peoples' income, other than for the "super rich," have only marginally risen during this time. Otherwise, as always, I agree with the points you have raised.

[@colindavis4073]

Well said Lee, I'm Sure i saw Clarkson in a hydrogen powered car about twenty years ago on TopGear and he said all that comes from the exhaust is water, So which oil company bought the rights to the patent and buried them ??? The World is very Currupt when it comes to £££$$$.

[@ouethojlkjn]

Bear in mind that hydrogen vehicle is just an electric vehicle with an extremely complicated and expensive fuel cell and cryogenically stored hydrogen arrangement. Plus as the hydrogen turns back to gas at Ambient temperatures you lose range at night.

[@barrylee3031]

The problem with Hydrogen powered cars is the cost of producing the Hydrogen .

[@martinellis7481]

Enjoy listening, This has open my eyes

[@ItsTristan1st]

China are not selling below cost. The problem is the noncompetitiveness of western brands. The heart of that problem does not lie so much in the production lines but the ridiculous corporate entities behind them. The marketing director alone will probably earn more than an entire segments of the workforce.

[@MrDuncl]

There have been lots of comments about how much cheaper the same cars are in China. If anything they are overcharging in Europe to subsidise Chinese sales.

[@LuckySpeaks]

In China, the workers get tuppence an hour, that’s why they are cheap

[@BarringtonDailey]

The demand is no where near 20%. This is boosted by subsidy and tax intensives. In any event the grid, power-generation and substations are 20 years behind where they need to be. The government as usual is heading off a cliff. Tariffs are not the answer as people can't afford 30K for a car!

[@davidwatt7663]

You can lead a horse to water , but you can’t make it drink. Good EV analogy!!🤨🤨

[@albertthorpe6721]

Great video pal ,a lot of common sense talked but like you say we ,or the car manufacturering business has got a real problem. I'm thinking about changing my car/cars but going down the EV route frightens me.I have 2 skoda octavia greenline estates ,1 business class and the other basic Business class is zero tax and up to 80 mpg ( correct driving steady) and the other £20 and still 75 + mpg .Both are in freat condition but 2012 and 2016 ,if I sell probably get next to nothing for them so why would I want to spend £20.000 + on an ev car when imo infrastructure is not in place!!

[@Jenks1]

The main issue for me isn't who builds the cars. It's the charging infrastructure. An empty ev won't run whether it is Chinese or German.

[@stevejewiss532]

Agreed , I love my EV but it’s no good trying to get people to have one of the government won’t get involved in making sure people can charge them ! First they’ve got to make public charging cheaper ! Of Tesla can do it why can’t the others ?

[@typxxilps]

I doubt that the british infrastructure is bad cause I had been there and it had worked quite well, far better than the videos from british influencers I had watched before . I had been to Scotland far in the north and even there it worked quite well, no complaints and that without a tesla. So get one and talk about that after you had driven an EV for a year. You can hear the same complaints from people in germany but that is not true cause there is a central agency that can tell you all those charges of a day per charging point. And then you see that there is a lot of room for more EVs. I drive diesel and EV, 3000 km diesel and 27000 electric with what ? an e-GOLF with 200 - 300 km of range, but multiple times cheaper than our Mercedes middle class Diesel. 5 years and no maintenance at except german MOT and 100€ VW service anually. Guess how much more the Mercedes cost ? 3 times cause even the tires were gone in those first 5 years 2 times while the e-golf achieved 80000 km with 1 set of tyres. Wear and tear is much lower, breaks and brake pads not necessary, no oil , no transmission oil changes.

[@MadMargot72]

You probably don't live in a high rise flat or a house with only on street parking, this is infrastructure. If a high rise building has 100 people who have a car, where do the 100 cars charge overnight? If you only have on street parking where do you charge your car? This is infrastructure. Where do you expect these people to charge their cars? Do they have to form an orderly queue at McDonald's at a fast charger at how much a Kilowatt? I'd probably buy a EV if I could charge outside my home and have a battery guarantee for the life of the car but how do I charge it with on street parking? You probably have these facilities,it works for you but have the awareness that this country doesn't have the means at the moment to provide the infrastructure to guarantee people can go about life as normal in an EV. And that's without even talking about power shortages from the grid, we have had shortages in the last few years.. infrastructure.

[@martinbrandon3261]

Exactly couldn't agree more with this. I live on the 4th floor. 200ft cable out of the window from my home charger to the nearest parking spot?

[@jonathandavies6862]

I work in a premium motorcycle dealership in Manchester. We are stable as are our franchised brands we sell but plenty of big dealer groups have gone bust recently fracturing the market and also one manufacturer KTM is in €3 billion debt of trouble.

[@volt8684]

Ha ha premium- presume you mean BMW. Premium is only the price the quality is shite. The Chinese will wipe the floor with all motorcycle manufacturers in the next few years. Then when there’s nowt left they will be the premium priced ones just like kia and hyundai have a world market share. Started off cheap - not so now. I lived near Longbridge as a kid home of British Leyland. All over uk we were an engineering manufacturing country now service industry pen pushers and keyboards only. Motoring is not the only thing in this country going down the pan. All the building trades are getting older and the new aren’t replacing them. The govt think pen pushing is the might of the country. My daughter is in the RAF they can t recruit, leaving in their droves. Paying certain trades a £30k bonus to stay in for a few more years. ( where that in papers). An ex chief constable was on the radio the other day saying the Police are haemorrhaging experienced staff of 10-20 yrs to Aldi and teaching anything but the police and they cannot recruit (does that surprise me the way the media slay them). I am 66 and I can tell you although I hate old age the future in my eyes is bleak. Who will build/repair homes. Mend cars, join armed services, police and a for skilled engineers. God help this once great country. The governments of this country are criminals😅. The media are like hyenas preying on everything and everyone

[@charliedrake247]

Criminals called politicians of darkness

[@semiretired86]

Soros puppets

[@paulchinnery6560]

I wonder how many of the 20% electric new car sale are pre registered vehicles sat in compounds. Where I work there is hundreds of 74 reg plated electric VW's parked up. Are the numbers being fudged?

[@carukchannel]

I suspect there is a lot of vehicles been registered without owners, speaking to a sales chap at a main agents recently they were registering vehicles under the instruction of the manufacture, I.E being told

[@raybell7696]

The whole situation is madness, I shall keep my ford focus.

[@carukchannel]

👍

[@davidconroy384]

This country will be like cuba, keeping the old cars running forever

[@ianharley1726]

Accordingly 18% of EVs are BEVs. Yes I've seen them pre-registered up the airfield near me! Some have no plates. There's a separate section for EV vans some registered 24 plate.

[@wokelefty]

​@@davidconroy384I hope so, imagine a future where everyday is a classic car show.

[@alexanderrobertson7744]

Yep me too I have a 2008 ford c max titanium I will look after her and she will see me out for the rest of my days 😉.

[@Tonypoolebcfc]

The governments rush for next zero has killed the car industry , ev,s are mainly bought by business,Joe public can't afford or justify buying one grand for a charger and double insurance, lee you will have a trade that will grow ,

[@BRED510]

Insurance on my EV is cheaper than my ICE was, and once the charger is installed it’s there. To go 250 miles costs me about £6. My charger has more than paid for itself in the 3.5yrs we’ve had it. My EV was bought at 2yrs old. A similar ICE cost the same.

[@Tonypoolebcfc]

You will never get anyone to buy it off you , trade will not be interested ,

[@alanpatterson2759]

Anything "Leaked" is by design!

[@dpfordnewcars]

I watch videos from a number of KZbin channels and I have to say yours if the best I’ve watched, unbiased, accurate and factual. I work in the industry and everything you have said is spot on! You have definitely done your research. Keep up the good work!

[@callumd849]

Best car channel on KZbin and seem like a complete and utter genuine nice guy who’s honest with cars and sales etc few and far between in the U.K. let me tell you that! Well done Lee you interesting topic in this one but we should deffo not get rid of combustion engines completely I love my Audi it’s done 220k miles I’m hoping to get to 2030 in it and beyond! lol 😂

[@Jack-bs6zb]

Our prosperity murdered by politicians in the grip of ideology.

[@georgestewart1983]

Global warming is a fact-not an ideology !!!

[@lkearney7299]

Levelling down, worldwide throughout the first world.

[@finnmanproductions9240]

What about all the people who don´t have anywhere at home to charge an EV? E.g apartments with communal parking or only on-street parking.

[@alanburton5099]

Lee, great content as always. I am fully on board with you Re protecting UK manufacturers. Up until the late 1990's I owned an engineering company manufacturing shopping trolley's and Distribution cages (Roll cage's) we employed approx 150 and producing in excess of 300,00 units per year, we were one of approx 4 UK manufacturers. I fortunately sold my business in 1998, then watched on in horror as large supermarkets sourced product in China gradually over the next 3-5 years all UK manufacturing ceased. I never heard one voice from either the industry or government lamenting this!!!-Sad as it is, we will always buy on price be it nuts and bolts, white goods or motor vehicles. NOBODY ever talked about tariffs on the products we used to make.Alan B

[@obesetuna3164]

Cheddar Valley Engineering lol.

[@GT380man]

Set aside your opinion on the rights and wrongs of all that’s going on. I make one point only. If the automotive sector crashes, we will have a depression. We’ve never had a depression across Europe before, ever in history. U.K. had one, less than USA, in the 1930s. Germany had one, immediately after WW2, rescued by the Marshall Plan (at least, these are what we’re told, as I was born in 1960, I wasn’t there!). Last time I checked, automotive across all sectors made up 10% of the economy and a rather vigorous 10%. Furthermore, it’s “private sector”, ie largely nothing to do with government. In most countries of Europe, if it’s not the largest industrial sector, it’s second to banking. It would be very unwise to dismiss the catastrophic negative impact on the wider economy of a significant downturn in the automotive sector across Europe. I fear it would precipitate a second financial crisis because of the strongly negative effects on incomes and consumer spending. We’re now in the position where several of the largest automotive corporations are haemorrhaging money. If they spent €45B annually & make €50B in revenue (sales), it’s predictable what the outcome is of a sudden & permanent fall in sales will be. They cannot turn off expenditures on a dime, but their income has crashed and isn’t about to recover. Very soon, weeks to months, each of those corporations will have breached their banking covenants. At this point, they get few choices. 1. The fail catastrophically. 2. Governments bail them out using taxpayer money. 3. They enter bankruptcy protection proceedings and emerge much smaller and financially emaciated. I anticipate 3 is to be the fate of a number of the largest, mass manufacturing firms. The desired effect is radical under supply of petrol and diesel cars. I regret this outcome was the main goal of the Europe wide EV policy.

[@markmottershead646]

Combine that with vastly increased energy costs (Sarcasm alert - no idea what caused that either) and it’s almost as if it was all planned. Still, there are lots of newly-arrived young men available if the economy recovers… or if it doesn’t.

[@paul7622]

I think the desired effect is not simply to reduce ICE cars, but to generally bring the era of car ownership to an end.

[@AntonyBall-hm4jo]

Unfortunately, we have career politicians who are clueless about manufacturing - making wealth for the country is an alien thought. These politicians, both Tory & Labour have followed an ideology which is flawed and devastating for the country (and Europe). We are now at an impass, where the vehicle manufacturers have complied with the government mandates but, the general public are not complying - surprise, surprise. The drive to force EV's on the public has failed - this should have been a 30/40 yr plan, not a 15yr plan. It wouldn't surprise me if the billions wasted by the vehicle manufacturers will challenge the various governments in the courts. I could go on about further contributing factors but, will leave it at that, until the EVangelelists start, then I'll give them both barrels!

[@GT380man]

Yes. The entire underlying rationale for EVs is a lie.

[@skrimshanker1]

Good message Lee, if giant car makers go under then EV’s and the climate argument will be blown away if hundreds of thousands of jobs are lost as it cascades down the chain. I listened to an expert a few years ago who predicted this, we are on the brink here, Labour can’t dick around with this, lost investment in the industry, ie billions would snowball into other industries. God help us if they do 😢

[@klawlor3659]

Don't you worry. The regime will be proud to lose another manufacturing base and will be happy in the knowledge that Nissan will probably build cars elsewhere. They will probably try to sell the idea of some new "green based" companies who'll take their place, like the regime did when they shut the coal mines down in the 90s and 2000s.

[@T-mw4mu]

This is the government of no talent and I am confident they will destroy this country. They make the previous one look good, which is amazing.

[@clairebroughton3244]

Agree with you ❤

[@Mach_One_Photos]

the thing that worries me with the EVs cars from China is the lack of aftersales and manufacturer support for the regular software updates that these cars will require.

[@ChrisS-x5k]

It's a novel concept to tell the general public they must buy a car which, over its life, will cost twice as much as an alternative ICE - and which at the same time is currently only half as practical. The fact that this seems to have come as a surprise to governments needs some explanation. Wasn't to anyone else. Tariffs will only worsen the situation. To save the huge numbers employed in the automotive industry, the current strategy needs a complete rewrite. In the meantime, the very sensible idea of producing greener ICE's should be possible without very much new investment.

[@MathewColeman-y2i]

Labour will be the final nail in the coffin for this country!

[@EwanM11]

Tories did all the others already.

[@nnnn-mn8ud]

Tories where doing such a grand job weren't they!, can't figure out why they didn't get in again🤔

[@triv7252]

YAWN

[@tofty21]

I see your point but it was and is the same with the Tories. The WEF control all major parties.

[@stevewhitmill2037]

And the Tories. This is not only labours problem

[@dogmadogma5398]

The WEF has spoken. Kneel voters !

[@sonnyburnett8851]

Been here before in the 70s with Japanese cars coming in ,they were brilliant compared to the BL motors of the day

[@jasejj]

But are the Chinese ones 'brilliant'? There's a lot of hype but the ones that are here, MG, are propping up the reliability tables.

[@johnskidmoor-e5b]

The West was had functioning societies back then and before we were mugged by the Blackrock types who are probably selling us on to China.

[@ianwheat1577]

Net zero rubbish our country will go to the dogs with these pathetic politicians

[@davidadams5116]

The motor industry in this country has been stitching us up price wise for the last 50yrs, so I couldn't care less what happens to them. I only buy cars that are 5yrs old or over with low mileage. They can keep their massive depreciation as soon as you drive off the forecourt

[@pmtilbury6596]

Labour has messed this up by accelerating it again to 2030 and adding more taxes - it’s been a shocking mess since the budget - vote Reform!!

[@ridenorthdowns1159]

And Labour aren't putting tariffs on China cars, EU and US are. Starmer is only making friends with China not our EU cousins. No wonder they close our factories first.

[@LeeUK2]

Stop this nonsense Stuff like this is part of the problem Stop feeding it

[@jh-oj7nb]

vote reform,what the hell do you think nigel farage is going to do,the man is a corrupt idiot that just tells gullable people what they want to hear,tories got us into this mess you think going further to the right will make life better for normal ppl

[@greggbutler9344]

I’m buying a horse and cart before they go up in a Price. 😂😂😂

[@tubbyrobbo5441]

They'll be taxing horses next and imposing fines if they fart. The government have well and truly lost the fucking plot. Trying to control mother nature will be about as successful as trapping oxygen with a sieve.

[@DanielGallivan-qt3fz]

Great video Lee The problem with EVs for me (apart from them being souless, characterless white goods driven by people who buy a car based on a spreadsheet of data) is that as many people have mentioned, it's all to do with control and tying us all into a contract and a product, similar to mobile phones, that 1) makes no sense to own 2) will mean being tied to a contract. Why would a vehicle manufacturer want to produce a vehicle that is 1) cheap to buy 2) reliable 3) cheap to fix 4) be maintained by any local mechanic. They want our money, they want it every month, they want us to rely on them for maintenence and they dont want us to own the product at the end of the contract and people are falling for it every day.

[@user-bz9cb8bp2y]

EV, love the tech... Hate the price. Referring to pollution... What target is it for the planes (manufacturers) to convert to EV... Will they suffer financial penalties as bad as our car manufacturers ? 😢.

[@ianwheeler7903]

We need cars that will last, not Chinese shit that will be scrap after 5 years. This is just another thing to add to the trow away society we live in. I agree that there is a place for EV's, but they are not for everyone. We need choice to suit our individual needs. For now, we will keep our 12 year old Vauxhall Agila that costs £150 to insure, costs £35 to tax and averages 50 mpg. Now tell me why I need to buy an EV?

[@GedNEUK]

THIS 👆 my thoughts exactly Ian

[@markbro4427]

Your Agila is good because it's a Suzuki....great little cars. I service one for a friend and actually put a clutch in it a few months ago....160,000 miles and not using a drop of oil.... Might actually pick one up myself as a runabout.

[@bEEBO178]

Where are car components made for almost all cars manufactured? I'll wait

[@ianwheeler7903]

@@markbro4427 We have owned ours from new and it has only done 44000 in that time, so loads of years left in it. Great little car with an amazing amount of room with the back seats folded.

[@patkelly931]

Transition to EVs is inevitable. Fossil fuel is finite. There is still time for a managed, not forced, transition. The mandate needs to be adjusted, and incentives provided, to manage the transition and avoid massive layoffs.

[@shatbad2960]

The true figure of fully electric car sales is very low with tens of thousands being 'registered' but remaining unsold.

[@nicolaf970]

Bentley have stepped back on the EV cars because of customer feedback they don’t want EVs

[@FranssensM]

The dealers holding them is classed as a sale. Checkout how many are registered to individuals and company fleets. Not many comparatively. The government mucked up.

[@stevejewiss532]

Rubbish sales of EVs around the world go up every month whilst ICE car sales go down ! Only this month EV sales went up 60 percent I think . And some manufacturers are already exceeding the ZEV mandate so if they can do it why can’t Stellantis and Ford !

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

​@@stevejewiss532Complete and utter nonsense

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

Absolutely correct.

[@brianiswrong]

Whats really worrying is any goverment we vote in, seems hell bent on going down this dead end road. We have an EV because its free on the motorbility scheme, but my own money would be still spent on ice.

[@gravemind6536]

Between all the taxes being imposed the sky high cost of energy from net zero madness and then the mandate to sell cars that people don't actually want to buy the UK car market is doomed and with legacy automakers no longer experiencing good sales in China and the Chinese dominating the EV sector excluding Tesla the legacy automakers are completely and utterly screwed. Cars too expensive to make and sell, nobody wants the cars they're selling they just can't make profit or compete with the Chinese MGs, Polestar and even other emerging brands from China. Over half the country couldn't even bother with an EV as they can't charge at home and without home charging EVs are as expensive if not more so to run than an ICE car.

[@russellhunter8378]

This lot will do nothing to save the car industry here. Rover collapsed in 2005 under Blair, LDV went under in 2009 under Brown after the government wouldn't give it £5 million while it tried to negotiate a buy-out. Nissan will probably disappear here, followed by Ellesmere Port the only ones I can see staying is here is Toyota up in Burnaston.

[@richardcameron3762]

I watched a KZbin video by a guy called Peter Zeihan and he is a guy who reviews global economic trends. He said that to achieve the targets for everyone to have EVs by something like 2050 (can’t remember the year) human beings will need to increase lithium extraction by 12 times than current. He said that in all of human history no increase in raw extraction of raw metals has increased by 12 fold. We just won’t discover enough. It’s a fools errand and we’ll bring recession upon ourselves with we are not careful. EV’s are just one part of the mix for me. And I once read a report that lorry’s cause way more carbon pollution than passenger cars in this country. Why not make lorry’s use hydrogen engines? 🤷‍♂️ Do that and it would massively cut into emissions. Both governments are just fancying round the edges of the emissions policy and not actually doing something properly about it. Sad era of leadership quite frankly.

[@ianfaulds8799]

Its crazy, all/most european govts including ours leading us far too quickly to all have ev's. Theres still not much infrastructure. Hows people with no drives or garages etc gonna charge their cars. A block of chargers on an estate we all know will be vandalised. Street light charging wont work. Ev cars at 8 years old are worthless as theyll need new batteries which are not easily accessible to change. Im sure i read ev cars cant go into paint ovens because of the batteries which cant be easily removed. This drives insurance costs up. These governments never think things through all they want is to tick the green box and all of us need to pay the cost. People are slow to buy because of all these things but succesive govts think we are stupid. Until they (govts) listen to people nothing will happen. But thatcwont happen either. Sorry bleating on but there will be many like me. Great videos lee. Im a refular.❤

[@mjcamp01]

I love this channel, and I'm glad there is a good mix of opinions in this comment section, it shows that your viewers are a better mix than the EV hating subscribers of some other well known channels

[@carukchannel]

I appreciate that!

[@teddy5069]

We do not want these electric vehicals full stop.

[@HKFunster]

Who gave you the right to speak on behalf of everyone? Some want EVs, others don't. Get over it!

[@Andrew-q2c6d]

​@@HKFunsterOnly 10% lease them. Nobody else is interested.

[@bEEBO178]

Yes we do. Only old gammons don't. Hanging on to the past

[@roberttucker805]

​@@bEEBO178oh you said gammon. You're such a big boy 🤡

[@FamilyMorcChannel]

@@bEEBO178 Very true.

[@christopherparcell6574]

Well said your spot on!

[@tristanpage6805]

Great content

[@obesetuna3164]

Just a crazy idea. But imagine if the various brands were actually permitted to make a small petrol engine hatchback: something like a Ford Fiesta, or even the humble Mini Metro for God's sake, that people could afford, and might even buy! A basic car that does not take forty minutes to recharge, or one without overly convoluted hybrid tech that is bound to become a money pit. Is that simply too much to expect? If this lunacy continues, the EV mandates will destroy any kind of motor industry in Britain, and Europe too. Then again, that, along with no manufacturing whatsoever, is precisely what the green terrorists want.

[@justeatingbigmacs]

we’re skint and we’re putting off that new cars

[@andrewmoss8760]

The sensible solution was always the development of non-polluting fuels and engines rather than a mad rush to switch over to electric vehicles. There are too many downsides to EV's and the UK does not have the charging infrastructure, sufficient grid capacity, or enough wind farms/solar power to avoid having to use a lot of fossil fuels to produce the required electricity. It all comes down to vested interests of course - the oil companies and oil producing nations have a lot to lose.

[@markallen7443]

I've never heard anyone talk more sense👏🏻👏🏻go for parliament lee,you'd get my vote👍🏻

[@carukchannel]

Can't sorry got a load of cars in the corner to sort out first mark 🤣👍

[@Lee-qs5bl]

If you became a MP Lee you could employ someone at the taxpayers expense to sort the cars in the corner for you. I'm sure that's how it works in our crazy system

[@marks-0-0]

I don't own an EV and like EV's as a technology but don't believe they should be forced on us. I'm tempted to buy a small cheap EV as a 2nd car for local journeys because it makes sense not because I'm being forced to.

[@98barrie]

I would go back to horse and cart before I would by a EV

[@Simpilot_Ade]

The cost of an EV is the first thing putting me off getting one- they’re not even cheaper to run since electric has rocketed up. Second thing is range, although it’s getting better. Third thing is infrastructure. There are nowhere near enough charging stations to cater for these vehicles- and lots of them are broken. Give me combustion engines any day over EVs- as long as they don’t have wet belts!!

[@SuperFredc]

I don’t know anyone who’s truly happy with this. Even the people I know who have electric vehicles aren’t thrilled with them. The infrastructure just isn’t there. I’ve seen EV owners stuck in long queues at motorway service stations waiting to charge, which is pretty laughable. Plus, 70% of people in social and bought housing won’t have access to the necessary infrastructure. So we really have to ask: why are they pushing this so hard? Remember, these are the same people who pushed us to buy diesel vehicles in the past. The air quality in this country has never been better. We no longer have coal-fired power stations, and mills and factory chimneys are now monitored by the Environment Agency. Oil refineries are similarly regulated. If someone like Greta Thunberg had been around back when the “Black Country” was actually black with smog and pollution, she’d have seen the massive changes we’ve already made. Seems we all must invest in a horse and cart or pay the government for public transport.

[@GT380man]

This is part of The Great Reset. Prince Charles kicked this off in 2020. They know exactly what they are doing. It’s neofeudalism 2.0.

[@DaveBarnes1]

The companies have known about this for many many years and have decided not to react until the last minute. As the tipping point is reached, we now see them moaning that they can't meet the requirements. Toyota and Nissan will likely fail first, they have huge debt and their sales are in freefall.

[@satbilla9291]

Geezer the same happened with knitwear textile industry it went abroad-now we have cheaper clothes where low income families can benefit. The influx of Chinese cars is brilliant news, the big car manufacturers have had ample time to manoeuvre and produce low cost cars.

[@andywrollo2915]

They're 💩

[@COIcultist]

Chinese cars will be even more self incendiary than the EVs we have seen so far. BYD, commonly known as Burn Your Drive.

[@LiamE69]

Pushing EVs at the same time as having an energy policy that ensures we have just about the most expensive electricity in the world is nothing short of insane.

[@johhnyrg]

Nissan……terrible customer service and build quality….I’ve never so disappointed with a brand new car

[@jasejj]

Ever since the Renault merger it's been downhill all the way. They were some of the best-built cars on the market in the 1990s.

[@williamwoods8022]

@@jasejj Rubbish! The usual comment from the uneducated - FACT is Nissan was going BUST because their cars were getting unreliable and boring and they were making huge losses and Renault stepped in and saved them. While Renault and Dacia kept making big profits all these years later Nissan was continuing with huge losses and making crap cars and do not know why Renault continued to keep them afloat all that time but they have now announced that they are dumping Nissan by selling off all of their shares in them because they cannot afford to keep Nissan afloat especially in today's environment where all of the corrupt governments are deliberately destroying their economies as part of the agenda exposed in the video The Democracy Illusion on my channel which is going to include NO travelling at all.

[@keithmartin1328]

Agreed. I owned 3 Nissan cars, all built in the 1990s and they were excellent.

[@AlanClark-p4s]

Totally agree with you on the way it's going but exactly the same happened with Japan and the motorbike industry and we lost all the British bikes just hate the way its going

[@davidkruyer8048]

Its affordability no one believes the government will not start putting hundreds of pounds on the EV road tax after a few years after the sort of people, who may buy them are having there children going to private schools paying VAT on school fees Intrest rates going up making there mortgage going through the roof weekly shoping going up every week people don't want to buy very expensive cars that depreciate by 50% after a year so unless you are a very rich person forget it or you will go bankrupt

[@TalesFromTheBlahSide]

over time there will be a lot more of the car service industry devoted to keeping older cars on the road. that is unless legislation is eventually brought in to get old cars off the roads.

[@-DC-]

It's already happening people are keeping stuff on the road that would have been scrapped 10 years ago.

[@davidthompson180]

Common sense video Lee. Govt needs to rethink

[@JohnFoxton-p7j]

Their going to need to upgrade the electric grid by 2030. At the moment it has about 85GW so in 2030 say half of the UK have EV cars that grid will have to cope with at least 235GW to fully charge your car. I don't think it can be done by 2030.

[@davidkruyer8048]

It looks like back to the horse and carriage no road tax no i insurance no expensive petrol sounds good just need to find a stable

[@robt2151]

Buy two horses and they will replace themselves

[@bearingthebrunt3650]

Common sense & i totally agree Lee Tbh i love the EV tech being a techy kinda bloke. But the more electronic stuff, the more goes wrong with them! And very few people i speak to are keen on EVs. But i cant help but think this whole thing is madness, the prices are way to high for the average working person. The infrastructure generally is terrible. It may also sound "conspiracy" leaning but one would think they want the masses out of cars. Im touching 60 & i know EVs wont be "the new thing" in my lifetime, but i do foresee many common car manufacturers i grew up with being resigned to history at this rate. I do hope the leaders who make these decisions wake up & smell rhe coffee! They'll have to drag me outta my diesel 😂

[@robertdenton7897]

Your sceptical, just wait until you are my age. These targets are unrealistic and foolish!