Caracal 816A2 Meltdown

[@GoldenWebb]

If any manufacturer has a weapon you would like seen reviewed or a tested in a meltdown, tag them in the comments or contact us!

[@michaelhansen9403]

The new sig spear in 11.5 also theirs a guy on yt who claims his scar 16 has 40k plus rounds would be cool to test that and see if he’s full of shit. Sorry if you’ve already done these I’m new to your. Channel.

[@michaelhansen9403]

Clarification- The spear lt in 556*

[@kh1474]

IWI Carmel

[@SurG30n]

MSBS Grot PLZ From RADOM

[@texasranger24]

1055 - radian mod 1 1010 - Sig Spear LT 901 - Geiselle Super Duty 743 - Aero M4E1 722 - PWS mk111 686 - DD M4 V7 661 - Aero M16A4 643 - Trybe w/ DD gas tube 601 - DD M4 RIS3 587 - Caracal 816a2 574 - KAC SR-15 mod2 540 - POF 415 360 - Jacob Grey ULW

[@mynameisname567]

This channel is seriously underrated. It absolutely deserves more views for all the hard work you guys are doing!

[@GoldenWebb]

I sure do appreciate that my man. Comments like these keep us going

[@frogchaser]

now i'm even more curious about the LMT piston upper because it also has a detent with a spring for adjusting the gas

[@GoldenWebb]

I’ve been thinking about that as well. I guess we shall see

[@JohnZ556]

I'm curious too. However, the detent spring in the LMT does not stay compressed. It only has two positions, N or S. 😏I bet it will at least beat the SR-15 and DD.

[@frogchaser]

@@JohnZ556 also i think with a lot of heat, the gas adjuster will just seal up and shouldn't move from its position

[@GoldenWebb]

@@JohnZ556I’d bet that as well. I’d put money on it lol

[@GoldenWebb]

@@frogchaserlet’s hope!

[@EaziD]

I do like how thorough this was. Very nice of the manufacturer to respond with detail too.

[@GoldenWebb]

Is was, we will be doing another meltdown of the 11.5 in normal condition soon x

[@josephtardio1086]

Good on Caracal for getting back to you with a full diagnostic on the failure.

[@ragnarok5056]

So much for the adjustability on the gas system, seems like DI is working best for the AR system - awsome vid man 🔥🔥🔥

[@GoldenWebb]

I wonder how long one would go with a non adjustable gas system

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

@@GoldenWebbit has gone many time up and over 1K rounds when ran as intended.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@SmallArmsSolutions we will be testing this one again in normal gas setting to see if that changes anything. Do you think it will?

[@kevinpavlich4136]

I don't know if I'm the only one that requested this one, but thank you for the review! I'm very interested to see how the new one fires under "normal" conditions.

[@GoldenWebb]

We had a decent amount of people asking for this one but I do recall you asking as well. Caracal was more than happy to send them. We will be filming the second meltdown before to long

[@kevinpavlich4136]

@@GoldenWebb hopefully sooner than later as I was just getting ready to order one of these. Your review under "normal" conditions might change my mind. Do you have a timeline for the follow up review?

[@GoldenWebb]

Hopefully within a month but we have ALOT of meltdowns to do ranging from PWS, Aero Precision, Small Team Supply LMG, and LMT. We will get to it ASAP haha

[@kevinpavlich4136]

@@GoldenWebb Sweet! LMT, that's another on my list competing against Caracal for my next purchase.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@kevinpavlich4136 I love LMT as well. I hope it does good but we shall see

[@dancain7565]

You guys should do a PSA meltdown.

[@Wildwoodjake]

You started the test on the “excess” gas setting from what I see. This definitely would have affected the test results due over gassing at rapid fire.

[@AMG454PRO]

Excellent work as always! Can't wait to see you test LWRC. Hopefully both the DI and Piston uppers.

[@GoldenWebb]

We’re trying to get them still. We haven’t had contact with LWRC in about 2 months. No clue what happened

[@AMG454PRO]

@@GoldenWebb probably behind on production or something. I ordered an LWRC DI upper through Opticsplanet 4 months ago, it was showing "estimated to be shipped in 4 to 6 weeks" at the time I placed my order, going on 5 months now.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@AMG454PRO could be. I started talking with them in September of last year and was told I’d receive one of each upper, never got anything

[@AMG454PRO]

@@GoldenWebb would be really interesting to see how their heavier profile barrels hold up, I hope they provide them uppers to you sooner or later ✌🏻

[@GoldenWebb]

@@AMG454PRO me as well my friend!

[@MacDuff99]

Definitely looking forward to this test being performed again in the standard gas setting! Rifle is a great value for a piston AR if it performs to it's potential.

[@ondrejbordovsky7752]

Thank you for putting so much effort and money and time into these meltdown tests, its really informative. Also I had an idea that would be pretty interesting... meltdown of DDM4V7 PRO with that heavier S2W profile barrel, probably would last much longer than the standart V7

[@WebSurfingIsMyPastime]

You guys are going hard with this content. This kind of thing is extremely costly

[@jumpmvn]

Keep it up! I just stumbled across this channel and I love the meltdown episodes

[@GoldenWebb]

I sure do appreciate it brother! We try our best!

[@SimpleMansJourney]

Awesome video, I bought the trybe defense after seeing your melt down and how well it did compared to high end uppers. My cost was actually $224 through optics planet, I caught it on sale. Keep the videos coming.

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you brother!

[@donwyoming1936]

I wish channels would do 10,000 round AR tests like gun mags used to do in the 80s & 90s. Not full auto. Testing accuracy, reliability & headspace over 10,000 rounds. The ole Colt & Bushmaster guns survived it. Wonder if the new manufacturers would.

[@GoldenWebb]

If ammo wasn’t so high and we could prove to our sponsors it would be worth it we would. But with 10K rounds of ammo. That’s 5K in production already, on top of the price of the gun and our time. We might get to that point one day but as of right now it’s somewhat out of our grasp.

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

The military contract uppers are made over seas in the UAE and use chrome lined CHF barrels.

[@caracalusa]

All Caracal USA Rifles, including those that Caracal USA sells to our Government customers use the same ChroMoV QPQ barrels.

[@cookie5535]

Not true lol. They use QPQ

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

UAE boutta recall them rifles after they see this 😂

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

@@boygonewhoopdataZZwhy? The barrel never failed. This gun failed because it was run in an adverse setting in a destruction test.

[@GoldenWebb]

I believe it’s only over seas they use the CHF barrel. That being said their barrel done great in the meltdown, no slanting or anything. Also, as we’ve seen with the knights and Daniel tests, CHF doesn’t mean much in these tests

[@USMC_LAterZ]

Eugene Sledge handing you magazines is awesome!

[@GoldenWebb]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@404tactical7]

Well done . You nailed it again. Appreciate the video.

[@GoldenWebb]

I appreciate you brother!

[@steamsoldier]

Appreciate you guys, keep on trucking! 👍💪👍

[@GoldenWebb]

We appreciate you brother!

[@MadRhetorik.]

Could we get a Red Right Hand LMG 20 inch upper test? They built a Heat Mitigation System into their upper that pulls heat out of their barrel and their gas tube. Would be very interesting to see it tested!

[@ridnthawave708]

First of all, glad I found your channel last year. Been enjoying the heck out of all these meltdowns. I just picked up my first well, second rifle with a piston set up. I was on the fence about doing it last year, but, after watching a video of another KZbinr at battlefield Vegas and how much they raved about the scar 16, had to get one. I now have another one but it’s in 308 and it will never be shot like this, so I don’t have any problems with the piston so far. But speaking on battlefield Vegas they shoot their guns not to the extreme you do here, but, high round counts. They have said that piston systems just do not last at least they did not see a reliable one compared to the HK. I guess in their Experience pistons just haven’t done well there a battlefield Vegas.

[@RedZeppelinAirship]

Would love to see a meltdown on a BCM upper. Especially considering that T-Rex Arms recommends their uppers. I would expect similar number of rounds being sent off as the Geissele Super Duty, if not a tad higher than 1K rounds, until the rifle gets knocked down. Either way, great video!

[@tx611]

No. The Geissele uses a straight heavy profile barrel. BCM uses government and lightweight. This whole test is dependent upon barrel profile.

[@josephleinhauser6130]

@@tx611Geissele doesn’t use a straight /heavy barrel at all. They use a tapered profile like every other premium barrel mfg

[@amineeliahiai3514]

Thank you!

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you brother!

[@j8nkies20]

Letssssssas gooooooo! Thanks for another meltdown video, mate!

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you brother!

[@laurenplummer2306]

Thanks Golden!

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you!

[@darryljenkins3560]

I gotta give it to you guys. This is a real test. Keep posting stats on these firearms.

[@craines588]

I started this video with my 816 sbr in front of me, all excited to see how it will fair…. Until I saw that gas setting on adverse, then I was yelling😆 . 500 or so rounds on adverse I think is pretty awesome since it’s getting way more pressure. Props to caracal for sending out the original and another where as other companies do not like being represented in these tests. Outstanding gun especially suppressed. Thank you guys!

[@samirinnabi314]

Love the meltdowns! What’s next pws, LWRC, lmt, scar??? Still want to see a full review of that specwar.

[@GoldenWebb]

PWS and LMT coming soon! I’ll try and get one out brother!

[@skywalker9110]

Thanks for the test!Love it.

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you brother!

[@joshsmith8432]

I’m fairly certain you started with the gas setting in adverse. Probably a lot harder on the gun. I’m pretty certain that the middle position is the standard position

[@wood-wheel-wizard]

My boy do CMMG DISSENT

[@gadsdenjim8785]

Does CMMG even make sear trip for those?

[@GoldenWebb]

I don’t think they can trip a sear brother

[@MrStefanos11]

Glad to see Kyle’s alright!

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

Only Rifle im intrested now is the X2 Dev AR-X Lightfighter, really want to see that rapid cooling barrel profile put to work 😂

[@GoldenWebb]

Just contacted them!

[@armorers_wrench]

I think DI is better than short stroke piston. There has just been so much R&D put into the DI system at this point that its very smooth while also being light weight and reliable. Piston guns have a few niche advantages and even then a DI system can be tuned to excel in those areas as well. Particularly suppressed shooting is where most of the piston advantages start to reveal themselves but if you have a rifle that was designed to shoot suppressed like the Knights SR15/16 they work very well and personally I'd rather have an SR15 over an Hk416 or a Sig Spear LT. Piston guns are still cool, the HK416 is iconic and is the gun that killed Bin Laden and served some very elite units reliably over a very long period of time. I'd personally rather have an SR15 though.

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

USMC and Delta/Seals tests have shown that DI is superior. It just wasnt a good thing back then because those three entities were pushing for the HK416

[@conner12893]

It seems you ran it on the adverse setting for the burn down . The middle position at 12 o’clock is normal setting. Look at the size of the dots on the piston.

[@GoldenWebb]

We did because ejection was better on that condition. We will be doing a second test on normal condition as well.

[@conner12893]

3:56 can you clarify then? In the video you said that you were going to run it on the normal gas setting and then use the hook to switch it to adverse. Just looking for transparency in the testing procedures. A lay person would watch the video and assume it was ran on the normal setting and failed. Thanks for replying, keep up the good work.

[@GoldenWebb]

@conner12893 did you watch it till the end? We give about a 4 minute conversation on how was ran it on adverse condition due to ejection pattern being better and didn’t take into consideration the extra ware it would make on the rifle until after we was finished. We used the provided buffer and spring from factory as well. We have another upper that has been sent to us that we will also be testing in just the normal configuration.

[@conner12893]

@@GoldenWebbno I dipped out after the thank you outro and jumped into the comments. My adhd got the better of me 😂.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@conner12893 hahahaha your fine brother!

[@MontanaWild78]

In a 100 years people will discover a lead deposit in that hill.

[@lucusallen42]

Can’t wait for the Pof video

[@GoldenWebb]

Stay tuned!

[@justanotherinternetexpert7743]

Have not watched the video yet: I am super excited about this video, i have been wanting a Caracal 11.5" upper for awhile now. Lets see how it does! Fingers crossed it puts on a good show! Edit: After watching video: man that is crazy, i totally thought it would go longer! Kinda disappointing, but it is just one gun. I still believe in the design.

[@connorburnes7697]

Considering the KAC, DD, etc. actually blew up after similar round counts, I’d say buy with confidence.

[@brudamiranda3314]

Crazy meltdown!

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you brother’

[@menumlor9365]

I here 816 is 2x better than the hi 416 at half the price. It was made specially for desert ware fare. I really liked this video and will likely buy an 816 soon.

[@seancastillo5763]

The gas block settings reminded me - the SIG Spear LT also has an adjustable gas system right? It should also have an “adverse” mode, I dont think you used it in the Spear meltdown vid. New Spear vid with the 16” barrel and adverse setting ? 🙂

[@GoldenWebb]

Brother to be honest I believe it was on adverse as well.

[@notme3184]

LWRC piston and DI

[@GoldenWebb]

Still trying brother

[@notme3184]

@@GoldenWebb Thanks for dealing with me commenting on every video

[@GoldenWebb]

Your fine brother. We’re trying our best!

[@fastbanshee1999]

Lol i been buggin them as well

[@GoldenWebb]

@@fastbanshee1999 keep on doing it! They might listen to some of us lol

[@MarketaHoward-h5l]

You know your firearms stay safe!

[@GoldenWebb]

Yessir!

[@stevebland8298]

Very familiar with its Sig 516 cousin. The 516, in my experience, prefers an "H" buffer when running in the normal position. I suspect the 816 is the same, if for no other reason than the engineers who designed it were the ones who did the 516 before. Run an "H" buffer and on normal I suspect you will do better.

[@GoldenWebb]

It’s cyclic rate was through the roof with a normal H

[@DJ-jq8if]

Bad ass video!

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you brother!

[@frogmedic6428]

Unfortunately for us, Caracal USA gave us an inferior 4150 commercial nitride barrel. I know how defensive they are of that change. Too bad they don’t offer us a chf cl parked barrel that the mil contracts get. It’s really unfortunate considering how much criticism the original 416 gas system receives that this 3rd gen superior system had a small parts fail. If Caracal is listening. WE the people want the UAE spec barrel and the 1913 style rail please. It also shines a light on the 416 simplicity in “overgassed”design. However, quality DI continues to mop up these misgivings. I own a 816, I’m no grifter

[@TheSundayShooter]

Detent pin failure, only strong as its weakest link! Who did the staking on that MG lower's castle nut?

[@GoldenWebb]

It’s a factory MG lower from Daniel defense

[@Dirminor]

I’d like to see a meltdown on a PSA JAKL. I have one and I’m curious on how it would do and what the failure point would be.

[@GoldenWebb]

The Jakl doesn’t have something to trip the auto sear so we can’t really test it currently

[@Dirminor]

@@GoldenWebb Unfortunate 😂 I’m imagining the likely failure point on the JAKL would be either the barrel or the gas block though. Good videos!

[@GoldenWebb]

@@Dirminor I’d say gasblock, we’re seeing almost all pistons fail their first

[@fortysomething7667]

New subscriber...i am potentially going to buy a bcm upper complete. Could you possibly put that to the meltdown test?

[@GoldenWebb]

We’re trying to find a sponsor for one. Stay tuned

[@brandondavis4306]

did you they ever tell you what happened to this upper?

[@albanfisher6857]

when's the LMT comin?!

[@StayFrostyR9]

Hi bro how is going where is LMT gas piston version still waiting :)

[@GoldenWebb]

We’re still filming it with classic firearms on the 19th!

[@bryanduchane2371]

No clue how I missed this video. Regardless of what it does, I'd like to have one of their uppers!!

[@JuliaJohnson84]

We love you Kyle

[@GoldenWebb]

He knows he’s loved! We love him as well!

[@evann1136]

I love the videos you make

[@GoldenWebb]

I appreciate it brother! Glad I can bring them to you all!

[@ericandre80]

Could you possibly try in the future with an Hk mr556a1, the bolt carrier is modified not to shoot full auto; However, you could possibly sub it out for a Caracal 816 carrier…we want to see the authentic barrel performance.

[@GoldenWebb]

It has to be a special made bolt to trip the sear and also work with the HK. We might be doing a clone 416 soon though

[@ericandre80]

@@GoldenWebb I understood that the 816 is in fact a 416 clone. Is it not? Thanks again for your reply…

[@GoldenWebb]

@@ericandre80 it’s more of a reiteration then a clone. Same people that worked on the 416 built the 516 sig and this gun as well.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@ericandre80 it was engineered by the same people who made the HK 416 and the Sig 512. So more like a generation I guess

[@zanegardner6488]

Buy a BCM upper if you cant get one from BCM. I need to know how they do haha

[@GoldenWebb]

They aren’t gonna send us one. We’ve got a few donations but not that much to get one of them yet

[@hairydogstail]

The minimum head space (go gauge) for the 5.56 NATO chamber is not the same as the 223 commercial 1.4636 chamber(as mentioned)..It is 1.4646..Colt and the TDP confirms this.. Any rifle that uses any kind of spring in the gas block is a faulty design as the extreme heat will set the spring (as mentioned)..The Rifle Speed adj gas block uses a spring out side of the block to correct this problem.. The gas rings on the AR bolt will be exposed to much lower temperatures and pressures compared to gas rings on an external piston..

[@zanegardner6488]

BCM, M&P, IWI Zion

[@hsing4903]

@GoldenWebb Man I subscribed! You might of just saved me. I was just about to buy that Caracal. Looking for that under $2k hard use piston upper/rifle. Will it be for me a: Sig 516 GenII? Or Caracal 816a2? Or PWS Mk...? Or LMT? Or stay with LWRCi brand which i have. Hmmmm?

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

Where is the POF upper on that chart?

[@GoldenWebb]

We have it filmed but not released yet. Waiting to hear back from POF first on something but don’t want to spoil to much

[@boygonewhoopdataZZ]

​@@GoldenWebbsheesh! If its the 16" p415 then we need to get a 16" spear lt as well 😂

[@GoldenWebb]

@@boygonewhoopdataZZit’s a 10.5 lol

[@michaelthrelkeld212]

I’ll take my Radian any day! Great content

[@tommythompson8982]

Hey guys! What do you think about making a video on DDM4V7 Pro meltdown? It has 18" heavy profile barrel and a rifle length gas system. Would be very interesting to see what happens to it!

[@lauralogan9819]

We shall see how it goes on the normal condition but I don’t see it making much of a difference

[@GoldenWebb]

I could see it making alittle bit of a difference but we will see. I hope it sets the record but who knows

[@jake7077]

When is the update video?!

[@oliviabowen1032]

I wonder how long it would have went without the adjustable gas block

[@GoldenWebb]

I’m not sure. That’s something I’ve wondered as well. We shall see how it goes with the normal condition and see if the detent spring wears out first on it as well

[@Mike-yy4ll]

Do a meltdown of CMMG Dissent, Foxtrot Mike FM-15 or BRN-180!

[@carlbecklehimer1898]

I'd like to see what it would take to make an upper be able to consistently go past 1,000 rounds.

[@llhosall7735]

DI > Piston

[@GoldenWebb]

DI is still in the lead

[@doon44]

Can you guys do a a meltdown on a PWS MK114 orMK116?

[@rubysmith3947]

LMT Meltdown on the way??

[@GoldenWebb]

Yep, filming April 19th!

[@DoSe420]

Gotta get BCM to send you something. Id like to know the breaking point even tho ill never reach it.

[@GoldenWebb]

We’ve asked multiple times. They won’t send it

[@BmanPA18458]

Not gonna be much different than DD

[@MatthewAyers-s4j]

Still waiting on that BCM brother lol

[@GoldenWebb]

We trying my man I promise

[@jesseoneil7705]

Do LWRC !

[@shadowsteel11]

When are you dropping the LMT?

[@GoldenWebb]

We will be filming it on April 19th!

[@shadowsteel11]

@@GoldenWebb piston or DI?

[@kennethrenquist9414]

What kinda helmet are you wearing?

[@GoldenWebb]

Team Wendy

[@efrenrodriguez741]

Waiting on the adm 13.9

[@GoldenWebb]

We contacted them!

[@efrenrodriguez741]

@@GoldenWebb What did they say?! Appreciate you always replying 👍🏼

[@GoldenWebb]

@@efrenrodriguez741 not said anything back yet lol

[@recuerdosdevietnam8765]

Contenido de calidad

[@GoldenWebb]

Thank you for viewing my friend! Welcome to the channel!

[@jgannon5105]

I watched the new Anderson complete rifle while they took the upper off the Anderson and that did over 1,800 rounds and that's a $400 gun Grand thumb did a PSA $400.00 Bill kit and he did the same thing and they shot over 8,000 rounds through the gun, just saying.

[@trevinowoods9602]

Do a SOLGW

[@조성현-i3q]

Is it actually a live bullet where a bullet is fired?

[@hansblitz7770]

Yeah, short strokes need to be manufactured to a much higher standard than D.G.I.

[@GoldenWebb]

They seem to be

[@DevonReclaimed]

I guess i don't need to request a Sig 516 video because this gun is virtually identical and you cant buy a new Sig 516 anymore. Love mine. But i I know its limitations

[@GoldenWebb]

Yea the 516 is somewhat hard to get ahold of now a days. It doesn’t help that Sig doesn’t make parts for them anymore so if something fails it’s done for. Thats pretty much killed the rifle. I hate that as well because the 516 was a great rifle.

[@derekmclv]

Aren't you missing the Radian on that list? Sorry if the question has already been asked.

[@GoldenWebb]

It’s at the main top!

[@derekmclv]

Okay, i was just looking at what you show on the video, and that doesn’t list it.

[@glocksp80smd]

Why do you say before you start shooting? Asked alot lol

[@tomsigitura7824]

SOLGW Meltdown?

[@Digesale]

Adjustable gas system was failure point

[@BmanPA18458]

Any luck with ADM?

[@GoldenWebb]

Not yet brother

[@KoolKarl-qq2pr]

Is that Humpty Dumpty in the back?

[@69GAMING699]

bros just ripping full drum mags

[@jasonvoorhees1324]

Have you ever meltdown a Daniel defense rifle, I would be interested in a Knights armament, and Noveske, meltdown? It would be awesome to see.

[@GoldenWebb]

We’ve melted 2 Daniels, 1 knights, not melted a noveske yet. Check back in our other meltdowns and you will be able to find them

[@armorers_wrench]

They have done a KAC and a Daniel Defense. KAC didn't do very well but it was because it had a gov profile barrel. Same thing with the DD tbh. They both suffered barrel ruptures due to the front heavy nature of the gov profile barrel. If the KAC/DD had a barrel profile similar to the Criterion CORE tapered profile both guns would've gone a lot further.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@armorers_wrench I agree

[@HiSp33D]

PSA Jakl meltdown?

[@GoldenWebb]

Jakl can’t trip an auto sear sadly

[@rosalawrence8528]

Someone’s “Nosey”

[@GoldenWebb]

Loll

[@Mrgunsngear]

🇺🇸

[@wyattweiman9103]

Pws??

[@chrischiampo7647]

Is The Gasblock Pinned It May Have Walked Off The Gas Port 😮🥵😊

[@timewave02012]

Small Arms Solutions and Mrgunsngear talk up the 816 as an improved Sig 516, and the 516 an improved HK 416. I appreciate how product designers learn from past experience, so each iteration is theoretically better than the previous, but reality is changes introduce risk of new problems, and this gas block failure appears to be one such problem. Some will suggest meltdown aren't even a valid test, but if a given system doesn't perform better than a quality internal piston AR, what's the point?

[@GoldenWebb]

It’s somewhat a give and take at some point. Internal gas system would be more reliable in nothing but full auto war, but for civilians that don’t have full auto I’d prefer adjustable gas. We have plenty more external pistons, including this one, to melt so we shall see how they hold up!

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

This carbine was shot well beyond its design parameters. You increase your cyclic rate well over 200 rounds per minute using the adverse setting. When used properly this weapon system has passed and exceeded all NATO testing specifications. Many weapons manufactures, only use a 2-position gas valve due to just such confusion. Suppressed and unsuppressed. This way you cant inadvertently put it in an adverse position that was designed to get the rifle working in limited adverse conditions, especially a rifle that was designed to work in the desert. The Caracal rifles were designed for this purpose to have that position the troops were trained what position is appropriate for what condition.

[@GoldenWebb]

@@SmallArmsSolutions caracal believes in the normal position it will set the record on our meltdown tests. We shall see though. We will also be testing it in our new torture test segment we have been working on, but it’s still a few weeks/months out.

[@SmallArmsSolutions]

From my experience, I expect you to hit the 1k mark. The designer has done several demos with this for foreign customers. It’s consistent. There is one thing I expect you will find with many of these videos. All these AR barrels will hit transformation temperature between 1200 and 1500 degrees F. This is where the heat treat reverses and the barrel fail. Your failures will not be operating system dependent but barrel temperature. Some barrel will take longer and some less to meet that temperature depending on contour (heavy vs mid weight vs light). With internal piston, if you have a non mil spec gas tube, the gas tube will fail. All gas tube are not equal. Many commercial one will not tolerate temperatures of full auto fire. External piston, only thing that should stop it is barrel droop that will prevent operating rod to function. But you can count on that temperature on both failing at the same time with same profile barrels.

[@TheMonstervirus]

Can't find a sig 516 meltdown