Carlsen-Savchenko

Sixteenth round, World Blitz Championship 2010, Moscow, Russia

[@vanderfieldmc]

I like that the camera is facing away from the clock. That drives me nuts and I don't know why

[@Russianboyz95]

You like it, yet it drives you nuts? I like it.

[@Checkm8isFEELINGood]

9:12 Carlsen: What the f*ck are you saying, noob?

[@alexsanchez-lu7qn]

+Jonatán Merchant y qué si es 'maricón'

[@MrTHEJHON786]

alex sanchez Uffffff!!!

[@magoplup]

al soltar la pieza ya fue jugada y no puede ser movida en el mismo turno por lo que el segundo movimiento es ilegal y con el error de Carlsen perdia la torre.. Son errores que todos pueden cometer

[@extragluten9346]

This made me laugh so hard

[@dulcejaime5167]

¡Hola!, Disculpa puedes explicarme por qué perdía la torre, te lo agradeceré de antemano, saludos cordiales.

[@drnantz]

The rules are the rules.

[@cst256]

Did not know Lord Varys is a chess fan.

[@4c00h]

+Kervin Becinal lmao

[@JoshuaWinkleman]

+Kervin Becinal lmao x 2 XD

[@bebop417]

o wow hahaha

[@AutoestimaNinja]

Me resulta muy agradable que Carlsen (o cualquier otro jugador de ajedrez) diga (con gestos) "ok, me equivoqué, ganaste". Contrariamente a lo que se ve en muchos otros deportes. Es genial.

[@AutoestimaNinja]

+Darío González JAJA, sí. Lo que pasa que la mayoría de nosotros le tiramos el tablero por la cabeza al otro :p - Sintió como la emoción se le subió y a los segundos, la proceso y se fue. Aunque habría que evaluar si fue IRA o SORPRESA, no soy un experto en el área como para asegurarlo :) -

[@Casavilca1976]

No lo creo, el pregunta con un cara muy molesto y con actitud imponente (manteniendo la mano alzada y firme como para lanzar) "are you sure? (estas seguro?) ", quiza; buscando o pretendiendo asustar o por ser un jugador de alto nivel hacer que su oponente lo haga dudar por nerviosismo o quiza; porque piensa que juega tan rápido que el otro jugador ni vio la jugada doble o quiza; pensando que al otro jugador se le olvido; esa regla, lo último que podría pensar es que hizo la pregunta sin querer aceptar su mala jugada, ya que él cambió de posicion porque claramente se dio cuenta de la clavada del alfil a su torre e iba a perder la torre definitivamente, asi; que muy bien se dio cuenta que cambio; la posicion adrede. La pregunta estuvo mal y finalmente perdio; por querer dársela de vivo, sin embargo hacer esa pregunta podría ser válida buscando digamos jugar con un total principiante.

[@TraderQuantgeo]

+Victor Casavilca si carlsen cometio ese error y podran ser genios del ajedrez pero somos humanos y cometemos errores . los grandes maestros como anand , capablanca , bobby fischer , kasparov , lasker karpov , spassky , alekhine , todos en su momento tambien perdian partidas por sus errores

[@Andress7D]

Pero para ese caso qué ocurre? movio y luego volvio a mover, pero puede dejarlo en donde quedó cuando movió primero? simplemente anulando el segundo movimiento?

[@AutoestimaNinja]

Hola Dax, movió el rey y soltó la pieza (en E4). Una vez soltada, no puede corregirlo. Y si queda en E4 fijate que está en la misma diagonal que la torre, por lo que al recibir un jaque con el alfil, perdería la torre y el juego.

[@Science2Student]

many thanks man, I wish all your dreams come true this year. thank you again.

[@Skulltroxx]

9:12 can someone explain what happened there?

[@SoydeCubaCompay]

Is the only way Savchenko can beat him

[@bigjon7143]

DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE MATCH?? Magnus (who is my favorite of all time) blew it several times. How many times could he have taken the queen uncontested but passed? He could have even snagged the rook uncontested there towards the end but passed. No my friend, Magnus' mind was elsewhere on this day.

[@matcha4451]

Po

[@wiZkHaliFafan27]

Big Jon I agree. I believe Carsen threw the game on purpose because of this

[@MmAWC333]

Guys, I know it seems cheap on Savchenko's part, but Carlsen did indeed break one of the rules of chess. By letting go of the piece then touching it again to move it to a different square, he violated an extension of the touch-move rule. If Carlsen hadn't hit his clock, then the game would have continued after Carlsen rectified his error, but that was impossible after he hit his clock. That made Carlsen's move disqualifiable because unfair time was counting down on Savchenko's clock.

[@renatoeckel2011]

Its funny that people come here and criticized the other guy behavior, like, oh he could offer the draw . . . Are you kidding me? These guys are like titans, they will never give up no matter what and they will fight until the very end. This is chess, its a war game!

[@altair91100]

Renato Eckel Carlsen was like "hey man pls shut up" but then Savchenko pointed at the clock, Carlsen looked at it and agreed, so probably Carlsen had like 3 seconds left and he would've lost on time anyway.

[@javiercadena1809]

fué el mejor juego que he visto por parte de Savchencko

[@PabloDPena]

I love that FACE the look of a champion who doesn't want to lose on a technicality but.... it happens.

[@Gorgonian]

Some seemed to be confused. The standard rule is touch move. In *some* blitz events, they elect to use "clock move" instead. That was obviously not the case here (and normally isn't in FIDE events).

[@simplyjessie1000]

@chessmassi thats a tournament rules unless carlsen didnt drop the king he can still place it to the right square that so called touched move in chess rules... Time used only to determined how fast the player think with brilliant moves... In this game its blitz

[@jsberson]

You are entirely wrong. All touch-move rules are the same for all players in all matches and in all FIDE-sanctioned tournaments whether they be blitz or otherwise. There is no such thing as deciding on rules before each match. Watch the videos, you'll see that before most of the matches the players rarely even talk or look each other in the eye, let alone discuss agreeing on rules.

[@chessfisher]

But... when Carlsen had Kd4, he not take the chess clock and i think he can modify his move... really? Any arbiter can answer me?

[@deivymoreno1170]

gracias por su respuesta es que en el vídeo no se sabia

[@juendsouza]

the way all of them silently staring at the board especially old men , gives that eerie vibe , asmr in some way

[@FJ2022]

I am really a beginner but the move that start at 45 and end at 47 for the black was it legal?

[@viharsarok]

Let's try anyway. So what are those number of reasons?

[@Bandannerz]

Anyone know where I could get a set like that?

[@wearemusic2796]

no se supone que debió haber reiniciado la jugada o la partida?

[@GhettoWorms]

Does anyone know what type of chess pieces are being used in the video?

[@jey7562]

illuminating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JohnDoe-lt5qe]

"When, as a legal move or part of a legal move, a piece has been released on a square, it cannot be moved to another square on this move. The move is then considered to have been made."

[@southank1]

what is the opening of mugnus carlsen plz ?

[@Fitnam_]

How often are world championships played? Cada cuanto se juegan los mundiales de ajedrez?

[@mauri32195]

las reglas son para todos igual y punto... carlsen soltó la pieza por apuro de tiempo y eso es merito del rival!!! sinó jueguen solamente partidas pensadas largas y listo!!! Estoy de acuerdo con Savchenko.... reglas son reglas!!!

[@GuillenProducciones]

Tienes razón, cabe destacar tambien, que si hacía el movimiento que iba a hacer perdía la torre en el siguiente movimiento, por lo tanto si tiene consecuencias muy grandes.

[@gerardoleon8542]

+Gerardo León +Gerardo León Busquen el video "Nakamura chess blitz" y ponganlo en el minuto 9, el juego es contra Savchenko y el muy santito hace el mismo tipo de jugada que le reclamó a carlsen en este video y Nakamura, como todo verdadero buen maestro, le dejó hacer el cambio.

[@NoelAndres17]

Mere pescao. Busca el siguiente video "GM Nakamura (2879) - GM Savchenko (2684), Amazing Bltz game, Dubai 2014" en el minuto 2:31 Savchenko hace una jugada ilegal y Nakamura para el juego en vez de seguir jugardo "como todo verdadero buen maestro". Las reglas son las reglas y Carlsen hizo el error. Si fuera un juego amistoso si se pueden ignorar, pero esta gente esta jugando por $. Ese es su trabajo. Es facil hablar como fanatico. Si tu fueses el que estuviera jugando contra Carlsen lo mas seguro te acoges a las reglas.

[@gerardoleon8542]

Alaverga

[@Kingofall760]

How? there is a pawn on b4 that is protected with a knight on c4... I think rook a1 would have worked very well. but in short time, one can't think clearly

[@Andalus710]

no I don't think so! its a general rule in chess that if you move a piece and let go of it the moves has to stand its not about just touching it so carlsen made a mistake and let go of piece too soon and realised his mistake straight away.

[@Kingofall760]

I am looking very carefully, the bishop on e2 (light square) behind the queen is protecting the pawn on c4. So queen is gone! but as i said, when you have short time, you can't think clearly and make good moves

[@ansariaden]

What have made him lost? The clock timing stopped? Or the illegal move??

[@andrewbrosnan7195]

Magnus put a piece down but then picked it up to move it again so illegal move.

[@benimaru06]

At 5.45, why didn't Magnus play Nc3, trapping the Queen? Am I missing something?

[@RNASplicing]

yep... the bishop all way back is covering that

[@MmAWC333]

But he pressed his clock before he fixed his error. He moves Kd4, let's go, then moves Kc4, then presses his clock. He should have moved Kd4, let's go, moves Kc4, has his error pointed to him, moves back to Kd4, then presses his clock. That would have been fine.

[@pPa4angAa]

Does anyone of you know the name or the brand of the chessboard?

[@AustinIsAGamer]

I understand the point of having a rule like that but I think it's kinda bullshit if you also have to hit a clock after every move and that rule still applies. It would be different if the players didn't have to hit the clock and Carlsen let go then told Savchenko to continue.

[@alooshkoko9247]

Who win ?

[@Rashadvv]

Савченко сначала сказал "ты отпустил руку" а потом посмотрел на часы и увидел что время у Магнуса кончилась палцем показал что ты проиграл.Но Борис не знал что время кончилась у Магнуса

[@maxpheby7287]

A wild Carlsen appears

[@TheSLK66]

Mmm the thing is I don't care about any of your opinions because of this: Yes, it's a rule, it could be applied and say hey it was your mistake, atone for it but it's his call! Not yours, he has the right to say yes or no, can't be denied (I cheered for Carlsen) but it was Savchenko's right to apply the rules even if it's seen as childish, coward or anything.

[@chett_republic]

at 5:22 carlsen almost had his queen but he attacked the knight

[@georgeblack5833]

whats SAVANCAHGOKOGOG's FIDE rating?

[@julmues]

vista rapida de ajedrecista, ni me di cuenta que calsen llego a soltar la pieza

[@CodyeWatson]

Right, I studied it further. The bishop would take the rook with a king check.

[@marimmohamed7342]

Who win at the end??

[@TheRomanianWolf]

are you STUPID?

[@yogiok7764]

The rules were clock move, not touch move, but then he saw that he had lost on time anyway.

[@kyoungshinkim5598]

how can u tell who won

[@ghostapostle7225]

Carlsen lost due to illegal move.

[@exjwflatearther6554]

Duilio Murai No he didnt make any illegal move. He resigned after realizing that after kd4 comes b f2.

[@JThrashYT]

Danny Johansson he lost to an illegal move. he moved his king and then moved his king again after letting go of it.

[@exjwflatearther6554]

JThrashYT Thats like saying its an illegal move to make a move when its the opponents turn to move. None of Carlsens moves was illegal. Is it an illegal move to hit your opponent in the face?

[@evitthought9641]

JThrashYT No dummy, you don't lose to illegal moves. He made a move which loses a rook (lost game). Then he tried changing his move, but the opponent objected, so he resigned, as he lost a rook if he is not allowed to change the move.

[@suckwithyou]

Why couldn't he move his king there? Thw black square bishop wasn't attacking it notlr anything else right?

[@carlosmontes0408]

Idk, I think it was because he let go of his king already then moved it again and the guy was like "that's two" and Magnus was doing those intense faces and that even more intense game ended because of that ;-;

[@hmrhuang]

Why doesn't Carlsen incur any penalties for violating one of the rules of moving his pieces? Savchenko was right in calling him out on that -- I'm sure Carlsen would have done the same in his position...

[@ismailhakksural6477]

who is the winner ?

[@gachibass2626]

İsmail Hakkı Sural kardeş soldaki

[@GodlyTecker]

there is a pawn protecting it

[@1471emre]

I know when you hand up from piece you have make your move doesn' it?

[@sobribuqhari1]

Why the player black ... serius face??

[@betuscb5707]

buenas partidas impresionante

[@capablanca4713]

pls say me who did win?

[@TheRomanianWolf]

are you STUPID? Don't you know chess?

[@glaurung78]

Very good trick 32...Rb3!! (at 7:48) prepared by 31...Kf7 on the previous move from Savchenko. Carlsen probably missed this.

[@marinasiqueira1685]

Quem ganhou?

[@lucas92893]

Carlsen (o cara da direita) fez um movimento que não é permitido, que é soltar uma peça e move-la novamente, então o Savchenko (o cara da esquerda) ganhou automaticamente.

[@PizzaCakeSteak]

no problem. happy new year. good luck with your chess

[@shaxmatist2000]

Savchenko claimed that Carlsen took his hand off of the piece ... hence making it a legal and unretractable move. Of course, Ke4 loses immediately to Bf2+. At this level of play, such mistakes are verboten. Carlsen resigns.

[@Shaky6277]

I am so sad =( how can he lost !!!!!!!!!

[@kingwheaty6528]

HE HAD CARLSEN ON THE ROPES....

[@abdooraby1723]

Who's the winner

[@TheRomanianWolf]

are you STUPID?

[@akio2730]

Who was in advantage if the game continued?

[@muhammadriduanhafidz2785]

Sky Watcher 70% magnue

[@muhammadriduanhafidz2785]

*magnus

[@davidanicic7903]

What was happend on the end of chess game??

[@420Skuzz]

Carlsen made 2 moves at 9:11, he moved the King forward but briefly let go of the piece, then changed his mind and moved it left.

[@davidanicic7903]

+THC CBD I understand now, that is the rule. Thank you man. :-)

[@elVatoGamer]

Two moves in one shift

[@اسلامالحراكي]

so who won ?

[@420Skuzz]

Savchenko.

[@AmitPhantom]

if you touching the king and when living its over?

[@PrototypeDJMedia]

It's the touch-move rule, he moved the king to D4 and then to C4 leaving it for a moment inbetween, so the official move would be King D4 and he "cheated" by moving another time. The touch-move rule also implies that if you touch a piece you will have to move just that (e: if you touch your king and then realize you want to move another piece, you're forced to move the king because you touched it). That said it's a shame Savchenko wanted to win that way

[@eduflip]

9:13 epic face

[@TobiKooiman]

Carlsen disliked this video.

[@TipoQueTocaelPiano]

Carlsen thought his move at 2:00 for a whole minute and didn´t see f5 easily winning. If gxf5, exf5, Bxf5, Rxf5, Qxf5, Bg4 and the Nd7 falls.

[@betuscb5707]

UNERROR DE MAGNUS SOLTO LA PIEZA Y LUEGO LA AGARRO RAPIDAMENTE PIERDE

[@АртёмТюрин-п1н]

а что произошло?

[@davidfaundez]

@chessmassi If the player requests, the movement must be done.

[@thiagoguerreiro8308]

Boris Savchenko ( Rússia)Vs. Magnus Carlssen ( Noruega).

[@muhammadelsersy9680]

who won !!! i'm begginer at chess, but i don't see any check mate or what happened !!

[@kosa71tube]

+muhammad elsersy Savchenko won, because Carlsen made an illegal move.

[@muhammadelsersy9680]

aha i got it. thanx my friend :),

[@Checkm8isFEELINGood]

+kosa71tube No, every move in this game was legal. The point of Carlsen's resignation is that he put his king on d4, then Savchenko would have played Bf2+ winning the rook.

[@xgtete]

+TimurTolibayev Carlson did make an Illegal move. He moved his king, removed his hand from the piece then tried to move it again. His opponent was then allowed to claim victory because of this.

[@antikkumar7265]

who is won?

[@bowrudder899]

+Antik Kumar Savchenko won. Carlsen moved his king, let go for a moment, then quickly moved it to a different square when he saw he was going to get his king and rook skewered by the bishop. His opponent pointed it out, and that was the game. It's illegal to move your piece again once you've let go. It was the right call.

[@antilogis6204]

+Antik Kumar Probably some chinese dude.

[@dagowable]

+Antilogis you sir are a genious

[@amigosXcorrespondenc]

+Antilogis They don't have youtube in China.

[@antikkumar7265]

right

[@TheCAMOCBAJl]

Don't think it's necessary to discuss with a guy like you, who obv. has absolutely no clue about how the things are going there and just looks at the "magic numbers". Just one thing: it's a matter of chess ethics and respect for the opponent not to continue the game after such blunder.

[@techjoetech]

Man i hate when that happens

[@GiorgioG085]

rules are rules.

[@MmAWC333]

Pardon?

[@Shomik0219]

Well I don't see any illegal move, did Shevchenko object because he took his hand off and then changed the King's position?, he could have been a good sport and continued or offer draw or something, y straight go for the clock when even the arbiter didn't object.

[@forkyoutubandgooglplus8134]

Shomik Biswas Carlsen's first move would have lost his rook to a skewer so of course Shevchenko objected to his try to change his move.

[@joeyt.8009]

+Shomik Biswas It's an illegal move if you take your hand off the piece and touch it again to change position. The arbiter didn't catch it at first but Shevchenko pointed it out. Magnus was going to lose his rook so he resigned.

[@PedroPereira-bt7zo]

Is that mechanic and metallic human being called Carlsen any god? If there is a Savchenko sitting at the board. he deserves respect as any other chess player. He played with black, he had problems after taking the a pawn, he sacrificed to have his queen alive... he played very well... he got advantage over your "god"... He, even not asking for his right of a chess player, he would win the game. Your "god" is not that "god' as you think he is...

[@TerenChinese1]

so.. carlsen lose the game?

[@PizzaCakeSteak]

black won. white played Kd4, which allows black to play Bf2+, when king moves out the way Bxb6 wins the white rook (bishop skewers king and rook). that is why Carlsen resigned.

[@EpicBandanaGuy]

Soo he can't just put back his king on that square and continue the game?

[@bryanpena6306]

blak was slightly ahead anyways and it was most likely gona be a draw

[@deivymoreno1170]

quien gano

[@juanbonari707]

+Deivy Moreno Gano Savchenko, por que Carlsen movió mal y lo quiso arreglar en 9:09. (Creo que Savchenko tenia miedo xD)

[@deivymoreno1170]

+Juan Bonari gracias

[@DedicatedCinema]

Wouldn't he just be moving the piece in diagonal then?

[@sfqm1083]

I honestly think that as long as Magnus has not tapped the clock, and only moves the king after touching it, that should be allowed. Sour puss just had to jump on the chance to win Magnus even though he knows he's the inferior player

[@TheRomanianWolf]

there is no such thing as "has not tapped the clock"... you take your hand off the piece => it remains there. Those are "park rules" with tapping the clock.

[@jairhumberto]

I don't think so.

[@thanhtamlhp]

poor Carlsen, he should not put the King in the same color with opponent's bishop in the ending.

[@angelfenix6803]

WHO WI N??

[@coolliechtenstein9090]

Black

[@oscararmstrong2995]

He said draw?

[@lemuriaasgard4015]

Me encanto el final a tope ahí !!'

[@PACOYOUT]

ni tanto que no le alumbre, ni tanto que queme al santo...

[@kevlarunderwear22]

i know, i thought so too

[@LucasLawliet]

who won ?

[@xMc95Chrisx]

Lucas Lima the left guy

[@irvin200livi]

WHO WIN ?

[@dqtube3788]

+Chuck Norris Savchenko

[@antilogis6204]

+Chuck Norris Not in good shape anymore Chuck huh?

[@PizzaCakeSteak]

well, as far as I know it is not a disqualification, Carlsen resigns because he knows if he plays Kd4 then Bf2 will win the rook, and from there it is an easy win for white.

[@rodlah6205]

Why Magnus did not take the rook in b3 ? After pawn takes, he could have played Rxc8 and win a rook

[@ghostapostle7225]

Rxb3, cxb3, Rxc8, b2. And there's no way to stop black promoting the queen.

[@rodlah6205]

Duilio Murai I don't even thought about that, thanks !

[@askdubi]

*facepalm* I didn't even notice that... I.. blame... eh... the... eh... viewing angle... :P thanks.

[@betuscb5707]

rerror increíble jaque se como la torre