Real Time AWD Diagonal Test Honda CR-V | The MOST complete review: Part 6/8

[@coolhandluke6414]

Also, this is the only channel that clearly and directly tests the AWD systems!

[@sajidakmal4710]

Cool hand lol

[@sajidakmal4710]

Cool Hand Luke Hjg

[@coolhandluke6414]

What is Hjg?

[@afcgeo882]

It does, but very arbitrarily. Most of these angles are unrealistic unless you're rock crawling, which is not what these vehicles were ever designed for.

[@Lucky8s]

No it isn't lmao. You need to do more research

[@coolhandluke6414]

This is what made me a subscriber! I love these diagonal tests, very revealing as to the effectiveness of these all wheel drive systems. I will keep coming back to this channel for these tests. I am starting to look for a new suv in the coming year and this channel is what I reference to determine the quality of the awd system, not what the manufacturer claims. They all claim the ability to transfer power to different wheels, but as we can see they are not all equal for price, class, etc. And you are a fellow Canadian too! Very unbiased, very thorough, very professional. I will quote these videos when in the dealerships to prove what their "ideal systems" actually do in the real world. Keep up the great work, I'm telling everyone that states their suvs are the best to check this channel out asap.

[@Offshore1977]

Me too. Subsribed

[@afcgeo882]

These tests are very arbitrary and don't reflect almost any environment that you would use the car in except maybe rock crawling, which these cars weren't designed for.

[@kartboarder22g17]

Sorry but its to compare the AWD systems out there today side by side to see if its a worthy system compared to the competiton. There are people out there that want the best and people out there that don't really care. So guess your one of the latter. So why are you here?

[@afcgeo882]

What I’m saying is that these aren’t good comparisons bevause they don’t test the systems the way they would be used 99.9% of the time, which is on gravel, snow, mud or in sand. You don’t compare airliners by flying them inverted, do you? No. It’s the same thing here too. While it is a test, it isn’t a good one, and I’m here because I looked up re iews of the CRV and Forester and this came up along with dozens of other videos.

[@kartboarder22g17]

If you were driving in the country and spun your car out on the snow covered road and into the snow covered ditch, and the subaru were able to drive out of the situation, but the CRV wasn't. Well that is something to consider right. Or if you were hauling some grass clippings to your local dump and as you drove in you watched a Forester make its way out, yet when you tried the same thing you found yourself stuck in the mud. Then I guess it matters. Granted these are just a few scenarios. Here is one that happened to me. I was driving following my father in law who was in a 4x4 vehicle. A strong storm came and we pulled over as it passed. When the storm had passed, we got to driving back to our place only to find giant pines laying accross the road. We were blocked in. Yet the ditch was open and wet, we decided to take that path rather than wait hours for help. In that situation you want the best you can have to go up against the task. If you don't see snow, off road, or never venture from the city or surrounding suburbs then don't really know why you would need AWD at all. To each his own.

[@amv7m]

Great test! I didn’t think the CR-V would conquer those initial incline tests. The AWD system was a little slow to respond but, I was surprised to see it actually make it. No, the CR-V isn’t meant, designed or built to do those types of “off roading” maneuvers but it’s nice to know it can (eventually) if really needed. Better than I thought for a crossover.

[@motormusique]

Glad to see that the new CRV AWD system actually works unlike previous systems

[@intrepidmilotic5999]

still a bad awd, better than before but bad

[@mielvaldez1977]

www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Fdgdfg/+/

[@afcgeo882]

I agree. The last gen's system was absolutely useless.

[@rafaelrjarquin]

George L you guys don't know what ur talking about

[@mikewest712]

Eduardo León Morales no sir

[@R777-RLM]

The CRV actually puts the power to the rear wheels when needed. I'm impressed!

[@Bigstevesmb]

It's not a Subaru but it still did a fairly decent job. The Ford Escape did a better job than the Honda CR-V. If​, I had to choose; I would pick the Honda CR-V. Only because 10 years later, I would still be driving it without costly repairs. And it's reliability factor. I can't say the same for the Subaru or Ford.

[@CarQuestion]

+Mister X not afraid of the turbo engine ?

[@Bigstevesmb]

Yeah, the turbo does concern me, but only time will tell.

[@rabbitruck]

Time will tell on the turbo. My wife's Civic EX-T is 20k miles in and flawless, but that's too early to tell. The engine is impressive. More than enough power, easily delivers 40 mpg + in mixed driving. My only complain would be that it sounds a little coarse if you're nitpicky, which I am. When you need to punch it, it feels like a tiny V6.

[@df8600]

Suburu are súper reliable

[@afcgeo882]

Are you afraid of the Subaru 2.0 turbo? It has been more reliable than the 2.5 with the oil leaks.

[@TCPUDPATM]

Result “Wow it actually does the basics of what it has claimed this whole time!”

[@RM-jj4ut]

Wow that real time AWD is no joke. Love your channel by the way, best AWD testing channel on KZbin.

[@xiaominglee8093]

This generation Cr-V is better than the last generation one

[@nixboox]

I could tell the reviewer was even impressed that the CR-V was able to make it through the diagonal tests. The test with the impassable snow wall was the reviewer trying to see if the AWD system could handle the bi-lateral slip test. And, no...the CR-V still doesn't seem to know how to handle when two wheels are slipping on the same side. A vast improvement over the old system, however, which only transferred 10% of available power to the back wheels. It was never enough to pull the CR-V out of these kind of tests.

[@afcgeo882]

The last generation transferred up to 40% to the rear, compared to the 60% to the rear. However, it was always a reactive system that didn't use senors. Not it isn't.

[@afcgeo882]

No AWD system without a locking diff can properly handle two slipping wheels on the same side, not even a Forester. Simply braking the slipping wheels with traction control won’t help much. Also, the last gen of the CR-V was able to transfer up to 40% of torque to the rears. It just couldn’t do it in some situations.

[@Anger61]

Amazing for an urban SUV with no limited slip diff, great reliability and amazing fuel economy. I ve had the first 3 gens of CRVs and I m now waiting for this epic vehicle to become available in Europe! Great engine too, hits well over 200hp only running hondata remap

[@globaltraveler2381]

where can I buy the hondata remap?

[@jsponson]

Honestly, before watching the video, I thought the CR-V wasn't gonna make it, knowing the history of Honda's "real time" AWD.

[@Mrhoneybilly]

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[@dimekoza]

Much better than the previous gen. They really worked on the AWD system with this model. It's not a Subaru, but I think it's very good.

[@Danny-d]

It has a lot of Delay for torque vectoring

[@afcgeo882]

How much?

[@John-qc1zv]

What do you mean ac does not work ?

[@psychocadet]

Torque vectoring only happens in turns.

[@rafaelrjarquin]

I have a 2007, awd work very well. I live in Montréal and I can go uphill on freezing rain while cars slide down backwards, I never got stuck in deep snow. And my AC is freezing cold in the summer and never had to be repaired. This is a great little suv, don't believe everything you read on internet.

[@wingman0325]

These tests are awesome to watch so I just subscribed! I have a 2016 Mazda CX-5 just like you one you tested a while back - it seemed to get up the diagonal hill a bit better than this CRV. I was really surprised how the Mazda CX-9 basically failed these tests. Keep up the great work and I look forward to more videos like this!

[@CarQuestion]

+Anthony Winger thanks ! Next one coming up is the Crosstrek but for the first time we will take 2 min to explain the Crosstrek vs Mazda CX-3 AWD

[@Brandon-eh4tz]

Watching all these crossovers attempt this after watching the Subaru Forrester only proves how far ahead they still are in terms of AWD sophistication.

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

I guess you didn't see the Crosstrek.

[@Brandon-eh4tz]

You're right mate, it was rather poor! Apparently, it's all about X-mode, which the Crosstrek didn't have.

[@chek1n]

that's because they are 50/50 split in power, cars like these are fwd based and have something like 80% of the power in the front and 20% in the rear. plus they don't separately brake the wheels to transfer torque or have any type of limited slip or a locking differential

[@afcgeo882]

You need to do some learning. The Subarus aren't 50/50 and the CR-V can send up to 60% of torque to the rear (same as the Subaru). Also, all modern Subarus have traction control standard.

[@ukaszgrzybek2769]

The difference in both is that in the Subaru you have Torque Vectoring and in the Honds you don't

[@Dickotine]

One thing buyers have to understand about Hondas awd setup is that it only works in "realtime". You're driving a fwd SUV until the front wheels start slipping. I have a first generation crv and I was hitting some trails and one thing I noticed was traction was soo much more pronounced when I put the transmission in low gear. I wonder if it makes a difference if you do the same with these newer ones.

[@inoname99]

Hello, which is better AWD or 4WD, I have a Chevy Trax AWD, need winter tires, someone suggested Blizzak WS80. Can you help. Thank you.

[@CarQuestion]

It depends on what you do with your vehicle and the type of it! Trucks are mostly 4x4 while SUV are awd! The tires are not bad but Nokian Hakka9 is still better!

[@inoname99]

@@CarQuestion Thank you very much.

[@Safe4u2024]

A suggestion just for the heck of it, ever thought about performing the same test in reverse? Some people encounter that situation as well with there AWD/4WD vehicles. Would be interesting to see the results imo. Good job guys!

[@davidzitzman1772]

Love CRV,Wouldn't live without AWD!

[@XelaOso850]

I’ve always loved crvs and watching them grow is making my heart tear up she’s growing so fast :,) but in all realness it’s kinda funny seeing a crv do this at all so im supper pumped to get mine

[@bryanmchugh1307]

It take the CRV's computer a few seconds to calculate then redistribute power to where it is needed. The older AWD systems for the previous gens did not do that they either worked or just broke lol. Love my new turbo CRV though. It is astonishingly nice. The little 1.5T is surprisingly powerful. Was not expecting it to actually be as good as it is. The 1.5T loves 93+ octane and a basic K&N air filter swap. I can get all 4 wheels to spin sometimes it is pretty cool.

[@hupsheng88]

I have changed my order from CRV2WD to AWD after watching your video. Thanks for your video.

[@Qlivia]

Just don’t EVER miss any standard maintenance on that AWD crv bc I hear it’s a real expensive fix if you miss one.

[@ahkeen]

I can’t wait till you guys test out the new Acura RDX with SH-AWD

[@CarQuestion]

Our test drive just got delayed, so we are working on replanning it! expect it soon :)

[@chezbut]

will you ever be testing the current-generation VW tiguan?

[@RM-jj4ut]

Damn that real time awd is no joke!

[@bvcxzgt5451]

Niether is F11.

[@bpaterson8342]

Was Stability / Traction control ON or OFF for this Demo

[@basem1alharbi]

إشتركت في هذي القناة بعد ما شفت تجربة مازدا cx9 😅 عن طريق موقع حراج. صدق من قال "التجربه خير برهان" التجربة هذي تكفي عن شرح ألف فيلسوفاً عن السياره.

[@Feral_istic]

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[@jaschana2220]

wow amazing, didn't think these everyday suv's could handle this. Shows how much Honda is putting into the CRV. Previous versions were just large civics or accord, with virtually no utility. The CRV certainly leaves the RAV4, CX5, and rogue in the dust!

[@JaimeCarlosCamacho]

Did you watch the Rav4 diagonal test videos? Seems like Honda is 2nd place actually, but not by far

[@hasmatullah4270]

Live the reviews. I can’t find the approach/departure angles and ramp break over point. Can help please?

[@stevest1300]

Thanks for this. I have a CRV and it looks like I have simply given up too soon on the AWD when it starts to loose traction. What a slow system. I guess you just keep feeding it gas until it figures out a wheel is spinning. Too bad it seems to need a calender instead of a stopwatch to get the job done.

[@bestcarreview5021]

Cool video

[@MarcMerto]

Will you do a test drive of the new 2018 Tiguan?

[@T3merity]

Is the awd system in the 2007-2011 crv the same as this one?

[@gsctht123]

No 17 is a new AWD system.

[@highonlifefishing4007]

I think the 1st gen AWD system was the best so far for the CRV

[@chrisanderson2204]

You mean the hydraulically engaged system?

[@bernardhossmoto]

It did OK, better than the old model. Your tests are the best, I wish I had such a ramp (or rollers).

[@Trades46]

The older CR-V had a complete rubbish AWD system. This new one thankfully seems to have solved this issue.

[@Qlivia]

With ALL wheel drive compared to 4 wheel drive on the Honda crvs- Is one a smoother ride?

[@muzzthegreat]

Considering Hondas continuous and repeated failure to put Torque to the rear wheels over many models and reviews [KZbin vids of failure to get out of icy-garage etc] we can only conclude that they don't want to build the Rear-Diff or drivetrain to take full torque. Witness instead the several Chinese 'stunt' videos of Ford Kugas/Escapes climbing 70degree slopes with their front-wheels in the air sometimes. [yes, I'm biased, I have Kuga and if the thing gets two rocks under those rear wheels it will simply grip and climb] See drag-race vids of nearly any other small SUV : they put nearly all the Torque through the rear wheels and it does translate into good traffic performance ; Wet Roundabout > actual 50/50 : it grips and Goes safely. This is not a 'software' issue : Honda is just building the rear drivetrain Light because they want it to add ONLY a bit of torque for Lounge-chair Ladies.

[@catkillerjerry]

seems honda improved their 4wd system

[@a22fc]

Is all four wheels on all the time for this AWD? Or is there a way to turn them on/off

[@CarQuestion]

there is no OFF switch or 2wd mode.

[@eman7579]

It is a front wheel drive biased system so if you are cruising down the highway and need to accelerate a little it won’t really send much torque to the rear. That’s for fuel economy

[@alexischristodoulou4355]

amazing facelift the new cr-v 2017

[@rydingwithryan493]

Much better than it used to be

[@gregpatterson134]

How do you compare this system to the new rav4 adventure torque vector system? I’m shopping both Thx

[@shameelmostafa4342]

Ontario huh where was this filmed

[@CarQuestion]

Not in Ontario lol

[@shameelmostafa4342]

Car Question licence plate tho

[@fa300ry]

Hi I like your videos , straight to the point and objective. Can you please have diagonal test of 2017 RAV4 , indicating when the 4x4 is locked and when it's not , it'll br interest to see if it's just a gimmick. Thanks

[@redstoneclasher2675]

It really demonstrated very well!!!! So i subscribed!!

[@Offshore1977]

Thanks for producing these. Finally real world awd testing

[@jaguar2164]

Good video. Please do a roller test white subaru xv vs mazda cx5 vs honda crv vs ford scape vs tucson vs kia sportage, vs susuki vitara; this is will be the ultimate tracktion test of the compact suv. Later in the same video a climb test white mud or snow for the final conclusion. I wish to confront this cars vs subaru xv that in my opinion y most of the best off road cars in the market of suv.

[@stephenpowstinger733]

I didn't fork over the money for AWD on my CRV because I don't live in the snow, the feature carries a hefty price, adds complexity, a and it reduces gas mileage. Still, I wonder sometimes, what if I got stuck in a ditch? (I did notice the CRV takes awhile to figure out which wheel has traction).

[@DAS-Videos]

It made it up that steep bump on pavement but then it got stuck in that little bit of snow. How come?

[@vinrave]

Skillful driver

[@paulrobinson3528]

Be interesting to see the Hybrid version do this test!

[@Thegonagle]

Seeing how it is a mechanical shaft-driven AWD system (as opposed to Toyota's weak-sauce electric rear axle), it should perform similarly if not identically.

[@scott8919]

It's the same mechanical system as the non-hybrid so it should in theory work the same.

[@schifoso]

Not the best for off-road, but still will work great climbing hilly roads in the snow. Can you test the 2017 CX-5? It's supposed to have an improved AWD. The ride comfort and noise level is much improved over the 2016 model.

[@joashlex]

So meaning crv is much better than cx5?

[@brandonar868]

Joash Casuga always was......always will be...

[@amarhafizi216]

In terms of the look...hmmm...no..the interior design..hmm..no too...but the others...hmmm..yes

[@kdomster9141]

@@brandonar868 it is a cheap ass CVT POS, fugly like most Hondas, 1.5l tiny 4 cyl with turbo will not last 70Kmiles....CX5 is miles ahead!!!

[@toc6566]

Great test! More please.

[@FrostbiteXZ]

not to be rude to honda but the real time AWD computer does need improving on sensor response to stop wheel spin to wheels that dont have traction while applying power to wheels that do have traction much like subaru's AWD system sure the CVT helps out but the computer in the AWD system needs huge improvements but over all still a nice SUV

[@rosariojarquin3613]

FrostbiteXZ isnaaanaassnaama a as aaaan bajaba as a as. Aakkkok ZnpZ

[@afcgeo882]

That has NOTHING to do with AWD systems. That's a traction control issue and has NOTHING to do with Subaru.

[@psychocadet]

No offense, but Subaru does the same exact thing. Go watch the video. The tires in the air are spinning because there is no limited slip differential (both diffs are open) and unfortunately, the traction control system doesn’t let like to kick in too much. That’s what needs to be improved: the TCS.

[@justinl2009]

Finally, Honda got it right.

[@723lion]

Never go wrong with Honda AWD

[@jeremyv11000]

Probably the best suv for the money

[@boostedmaniac]

For the folks that say these aren't realistic tests, I would argue that driving out of a heavy snow bank you need a good awd system.

[@onwheels2564]

No doubt, this Honda CR-V is excellent

[@DC-88]

Honestly, you just bought one ?

[@onwheels2564]

No

[@bcuz8998]

Olivier dc jewish people driving german cars 🎵

[@MrAquinas1]

Why? For being one of the worst performers in this test?

[@nancyledouard9774]

על גלגלים Un kWheels

[@Willisai]

Love your channel good work, subscribed. Usually I don't subscribe but I subcribed right away

[@QuestionAuto1]

William thanks we appreciate that!!

[@RTI_MD]

at last :) So I suppose you were flooring the pedal. That's the only way the CRV deals with such situations (from my experience at least). BTW, is the diff-lock imitation still linked to VSA? If you turn off the VSA, the car won't move?

[@CarQuestion]

just added this to the description: ** More détail on the test: All test were performed with traction control ON. Certain SUV will require small throttle input to get over the hill, the CR-V required full throttle applied to get over this hill. This test is made to show how the Real Time AWD will react under the hard circumstance and it doesn't change the fact that the CR-V is an awesome compact SUV.

[@RTI_MD]

Thx for the clarification. So no too much changed on the AWD system, well it's not a subaru - let's hope it's at least more reliable ). Thank you for your tests and reviews!

[@antoniogreco699]

Quando la vedremo in Italia?

[@spencercohen2673]

First they weren’t making enough power in the back. Now they’re making too much. Lmao

[@limcy86]

does this awd improve the grip amd safety on the highway hauling?

[@JuveLock]

Peugeot 3008 diagonal test ?!

[@valdius85]

Is it possible to install a rear LSD into 2019 model CR-V?

[@ub1419]

Waldemar Ishibashi u can install anything ina any car u want. All u gotta has is 💰

[@ShaiyanHossain]

I wonder if the LSD from a BRZ or Miata would fit

[@henrym1854]

Automotive koncepts and design have Racing Diffs brand LSDs for all years of Crvs. They also have Gear X brand LSDs for Crvs

[@psaffel66]

would shifting the crv into sport or low mode help with its traction in this test?

[@eman7579]

Not really. It just keeps the gearing lower. And sport makes the throttle more responsive.

[@rydingwithryan493]

Definitely improved over the old one

[@matthewramirez4670]

looking forward to seeing more videos like this 👍

[@j.r.b.5464]

Much better than the Mazda system in the video from the same producer. For the folks singing Subaru's praises, you sure about that? Apples and apples, same test: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYiWq6qLd7J6fJo Better than the latest Realtime AWD system from Honda? Yes. Much better? Not in this test for sure. I remember when Realtime AWD was much worse. Clearly Honda have been improving the system generationally. And the Honda system is orders of magnitude simpler, lighter, etc., that most other systems. Subaru's is among the most complex. Agnostic here: Have owned one CR-V, one Forester and one Outback.

[@normt5463]

Did they miss testing the 2nd gen RDX?

[@LabradorRichy]

can you please do the same with 17 Rav4 AWD NON hybrid model

[@Eisho.G]

What's it like on fuel? Because its 1.5 turbo, its petrol not diesel

[@Lucky8s]

Best in its class for gasoline powered compact crossovers (US and Canada)

[@geraldg6542]

Out of all the crossovers that went through this test, the kia sorento was the best IMO.

[@roybarmo7379]

can you please test the awd in hyundai santa fe sport?

[@sailormanoyster1849]

How are the rear sheels driven wifh a transverse engine

[@mjtcastillo]

how would it perform on winter tires?

[@axsb]

still takes way too much throttle to activate the system.

[@afcgeo882]

That's not what that is. It takes a lot of throttle to push the heavy car. That 1.5 turbo generates lots of torque early, but not much horsepower until you get higher into the RPM range. For these tests, torque isn't enough. Also, I highly doubt the traction control was on.

[@Solracaduar]

how to activate the AWD in this truck?

[@ZzzRoofus]

While I love Hondas and I'm on my second one, you'd think for a company who once owned Land Rover (one of the best and most advanced off road technology of the modern car era) that they'd have a far better 4wd system. Come on Honda, step up your game if you want to compete with Subaru and Land Rover!!!

[@ShaiyanHossain]

They never owned land rover, the crossroad was a partnership

[@iamlim5197]

i wish a new hybrid version will show on this test soon.

[@vincent82228]

Nothing to compare with Subaru's AWD system

[@MavvyChiew]

Please test the 2019 honda with I-VTM 4 AWD please

[@CarQuestion]

The CR-V is the same in 2019!

[@jacktheripper1652]

this or the cx-5?

[@shaadahmed4456]

CRV 2017 MODEL PASSED 4WD TEST

[@ariabozorgi]

can you do a test on jeep grand cherokee overland. thank you

[@UsmanSiddiquiahmed]

Aria Hajiaghabozorgi L

[@marshalsetyadharma9667]

What the type in that test

[@vininio]

And the WINNER is FIAT 500X! These luxury off-roaders are struggling a lot...

[@isaiasresende]

Very outlander!

[@AlaskanSnowLeopard]

It did struggle a bit, but I honestly didn't think it would of make it.

[@athaothao2880]

nice cr-v awd

[@afcgeo882]

Are you SURE you had the traction control ON? Because it definitely isn't working.

[@Jake.Gentry]

What color is this suv?

[@Leoonidaa]

Honda Cr-v 2021 1.5 193cv awd cvt ❤

[@irfanspace]

its all about software- as good the artificial intelligence as good the power distribution on all ways , CRV system depend of acceleration

[@hyena-chase2176]

tryed a few of theses honda rav4, and scross,still say the best by long way is the skoda yeti 4x4 system

[@Sepolden]

Looking forward to the 2018 XC60....

[@damonreynolds6775]

In 30 years of driving I've never had to climb a diagonal this steep in a family car. In fact short of an earthquake during the zombie apocalypse I can't imagine why anyone would want to deliberately drive into any situation where two wheels are off the ground? I understand the principle of testing extremes to define safety standards, but this seems to be establishing if AWD systems meant to assist average drivers in normal adverse road conditions can assist stunt drivers climb rocks. ...?

[@CarQuestion]

feel free to check that video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/bXeki6p9etCaZ5o most AWD system will be perfect for you average family driver. But not all of them react the same that's what we show here. That's why we added the slow motion video in snow ( when we can ) and in sand.

[@damonreynolds6775]

Car Question Thank you, very informative. But that vid just convinces me your viewers would be better served by more realistic testing they may actually encounter. Also since no fw or rw drive vehicle can 'pass', should no one drive them either? Sorry but I'm just not seeing the point. This is like taking a street legal off roader onto a highway to test it's road manners, only to have some of your viewers dismiss those with too bad nvh ;)

[@CarQuestion]

Well, let's make this simple. We could talk about it, and get them bored of listening at it. We could try it on rollers, KZbin is full of that and not be original, so get no views / credit. STILL, everybody asked for that. So we are working on an original roller test that will simulate a new environment rather than the ones on the ground. We could try to show you something on the asphalt: You can't see it cause it's more a feeling. we could try to show you something about snow: there are so many different snow type so it's not always the same environment so... no good compared there! And sometimes there is no snow out there! Plus, we never get the same tire. We always said that our test is more a hardcore demonstration than a real need for everyday families! But it sure show how much the AWD system can be used before it gives up! I'm ok with your point, but for us, we like to push the limit. Don'texpect a Porsche 911 turbo on that test, but you can be sure that when a Kona is shown in the Broll hitting the sand trail, that we will test it.

[@damonreynolds6775]

Car Question Fair enough. I'm OK with hard testing and it certainly is entertaining to see the outer limits. Great driving skills BTW, I'd be totally unnerved trying this myself lol