CAT DX13 VS Milwaukee

[@kylefowler5082]

Congratulations on getting your dyno going, there's some good data coming out of it!

[@Tools-Tested]

Thanks its been a long struggle. I cant wait to test more drills for comparison.

[@noelguerrero3018]

Drill- Packedge in typical box, came with a tool bag (added bonus), two batteries, one charger, drill, and driver. Two words "plenty of Torque" kzbin.infoUgkxW1vOBRCMrgTCDEijzpVzDWsgI-Jm2iQv well I guess that's three. Nice upgrade from current setup. Has belt clips, I don't think I will be using those. Driver and drill were bigger than what I expected but it is an upgrade from the current setup. For the money I would say that this is a great setup for Professionals and DIY/Weekend warriors.

[@eetechs1643]

Oh heck yeah! Using a stepper motor to move the flow control valve in a precise manner gradually increasing the load the tools experience.

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep that way its consistant and I can keep both hands on the drill. Wanted to go with a PWM valve until I looked the price up of a none compensated PWM valve. Almost all test videos on YT show people drilling into wood, I wanted something that could be consistent and repeatable to keep things fair. Way to many variables I feel with testing in wood.

[@РоманТовмасян-з6ч]

Привет Всем! Я с уверинастью скажу Вам что Cat очень достойный инструмент! Я имею в работе метабо девольт милуоки! Разницы в работе и мощности не ощутил! В руках Cet сидит даже приятней всех! Например гайковерт Cat с двумя аккумулятороми кейсом и зарядкой у нас стоит примерно 130доларов! А метабо или милуоки такой-же мощности уже 650 700 долларов!

[@jeffmorefield]

Excellent video my friend. Appreciate all of your hard work.

[@Tools-Tested]

Thanks! I appreciate it! No problem!

[@alexsmel6956]

In our country, Milwaukee costs on average 2 times more expensive than a CAT if you buy from an official dealer. People take CAT for home and DeWalt or MAKITA for work - it's just cheaper. Russia.

[@Tools-Tested]

Thats interesting, I would never have expected CAT to be cheaper.

[@Tools-Tested]

@@alexsmel6956 wow that’s crazy

[@alexsmel6956]

@@Tools-Tested ))

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Cat is a Chinese brand now, looks like. They're a good deal in Russia, now that most western brands have been priced out of the accessible range for the majority of the population by the old bald politburo dude crash-testing the economy.

[@ritmiqmovies220]

@@BoraHorzaGobuchul cat build in "positek" plant. China. ALso this plant buitd power-tools for worx and many others chinise good price/power things.

[@KM-os4be]

I see the CAT as a very poor deal. Been looking around for another drill. Right now you can get a FLEX 24-volt 1/2-in Brushless Cordless Drill, 2 Batteries 5Ah & 2.5Ah and Charger on sale at lowes for $179 ($50 off).

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep and the flex is claiming 1400Lb In vs DX12 600/ DX13 700. I really don't see any advantage right now to buy CAT. The battery is cool but it looks like the drill cant take full advantage of it.

[@Nxrth6666]

I've been using the cat tools for a while they can be obtained quite cheap in 🇸🇪 Sweden. Ive seen brand new dx12s go for as low as 80$ ! They're constantly on sale cause nobody buys cat since its a new powertool lineup.

[@Tools-Tested]

They have come down some here is the US but are still high compared to Milwaulkee.

[@mexicanjumpingllama2589]

I wouldn’t expect these to be close together. The specs on the Milwaukee were twice as much as the Dx13

[@homealone4516]

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[@pauldrice1996]

My main reason for even considering the cat would be the fact that the battery is supposed to persist through more charge discharge cycles and charge faster. I worked at a company that used Milwaukee but their batteries were so worn out from so many cycles that my new 2 amp hour on my impact would last as long as the 5 amp hours at least. I never ran it out with the impact at that job, but using it in the blower we used for blowing out roof top units I could throw my 2 amp hour on after we ran out of big batteries and get just as much out of it. As long as the batteries don't cost twice as much to replace I think that alone would make it make sense for a company, if it does truly survive double the amount of cycles.

[@three-phase562]

Interesting set of results. I haven't really seen CAT battery powered tools here in the UK. The odd time I have seen them, they are very expensive, usually a lot more than the other main brands. I guess it depends on what you want the actual tool for, I wonder how many would actually drive it that hard in actual work, more likely battery life time would be the higher concern.

[@Tools-Tested]

Interesting I didn’t know they had a line of power tools before this. Yeah I’m currently trying to rig up a setup to see amp draw.

[@mediocreman2]

I don't know why CAT has to get their name on everything, especially stuff that's low in quality. Even their jackets are garbage.

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep these days seems its more about making a $ from the name.

[@gf2e]

I’m used to seeing companies throw their name on stuff when their main products become obsolete. Bell and Howell brand crappy digital cameras, once they were no longer making any of their famous optical gear. But Caterpillar? Why?

[@Tools-Tested]

@@gf2e Yep its crazy but seems everyone is starting to do it now sadly, trying to get every dollar out of the name it seems.

[@tim62744]

The hole test is on the grafine battery

[@2121contreras]

So many have come and gone but Milwaukee continues to dominate the industry in so many categories. Rip cat tools. Go big red red for life

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep and now Milwaukee has the Forge battery.

[@2121contreras]

And they got the new m18 sub compacts drill and impact coming out can't wait to get one of those.

[@louisd95714]

I feel the same way as you. I'm become adducted to the Milwaukee lineup

[@timweb1510]

Cat sending a lot of American’s jobs to Brazil

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep sadly, so is Deere to Mexico.....

[@brandongilbert5063]

I'd like to see you test some corded drills

[@Tools-Tested]

Hope to, but it will probably be two months before I do.

[@gerryzak7814]

One of the claims of the graphene batteries is their superior performance at cold temperatures. If so, this would be a hugely valuable quality in areas that experience cold winters. Has anybody tested for cold temperatures performance, including Milwaukee, Dewalt, Bosch, etc.?

[@Tools-Tested]

Yeah that would be an interesting test, I don't think anyone has don that yet.

[@boosted2.4_sky]

The Milwaukee won but not by much it claims twice as much power as both of these drills and didn't beat it by twice as much.. The CAT's were actually pretty impressive for only having 50% of the potential of the Milwaukee....

[@Tools-Tested]

I think the Milwaukee has much more to give, definitely on speed one. It powered through the dyno with the 5ah. It will be interesting when I set the dyno for high power. Yeah I don't think the CAT drills are bad, but your defiantly paying a high premium for the name. I cant wait to see how CAT ranks vs other brands as I continue testing.

[@francisdaoust5862]

If you want to improve your testing. You should find a way to know the capacity of discharge of the battery. That where the power came from. The number of amp/hours is not relevant without the capacity of discharge. If a 5amp battery have 1c (capcity of discharge) it will produce a constant 5amp for 1 hour. If it have 3c, it will produce 15amp for 20min wich is 3 time the power output possibility but for a shorter period. Some lithium polimer battery (not lithium ion) have up to 150c and 300c in burst. Just a sugestion😊

[@ОлегДонов-х6у]

one point about the price (CAT DX13 + 5 Ah graphite) now it costs 200 USD

[@Tools-Tested]

Do you have a link for $200? I still only see it for @ around 300. Thanks!

[@martinlebreton6391]

Got a dx13 with the graphene battery for 160$cdn on a boxing day ish sale. Love it

[@Tools-Tested]

Nice!, I can't believe how fast the battery charges.

[@martinlebreton6391]

@@Tools-Tested definately better than the regular M18 imo. At that price was a no brainer. Charges in colder temps too.

[@louisd95714]

To keep the batteries on an even par, there is always the option of purchasing a Milwaukee super charger. I believe they can recharge a 12ah battery in under an hour.

[@Tools-Tested]

Yeah the new forge battery makes a huge difference and if you use the new dual SC. This is an old video.

[@djtechnomixxxx]

Congratulations, very well done video!! Hello everyone, I'm Brazilian and I live in Brazil, good tools like the m18 are very expensive around here, so I have to import and hope that the corrupt government here doesn't tax me too much with taxes that reach 70% of the product price, even paying $120.00 dollars for shipping, it is much cheaper to import than to buy here in Brazil, even so I ask for your help on where I can find ToughBuilt and Milwaukee products, with the lowest possible price, since the dollar is $5, 30x1.00 real lol, thank you very much for your kindness.

[@glenarseneau4796]

I haven’t bought the cat yet I’m just wondering if it’s a professional grade tool

[@Tools-Tested]

Seem decent but the line is currently limited and that 5ah is HEAVY. Really like that fast charging of the 5ah though.

[@seanmcneill8899]

I work as an electrician and Going to give CAT power tools a go as i have been offered a very good deal on a combo pack. Drill_ impacter_grinder 3 battery and charger.

[@Tools-Tested]

Understandable, price is a big factor.

[@cynic256]

the batteries look like off brand batteries I have for Dewalt. I have a hard time believing they couldn't have done better with these.

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep the regular packs are not that great, considering the use of the CAT name.

[@slimanus8m]

Fun fact: CAT is just Worx Professional green - rebranded at higher price. look it up

[@Tools-Tested]

Interesting thanks for the info!

[@TacticalThib]

Can you please test the Makita xgt 40v and have a brushless 20+ v shootout please

[@Tools-Tested]

Hope to but it will probably be 2 months before I do. Biggest issue is its another battery platform I need to buy into. I try to test the tools with all the available battery's, so to add another platform is $$$$.

[@TacticalThib]

@@Tools-Tested total understand I'm in 15 platforms currently about to sell off a couple that I've made videos with already

[@riba2233]

​@@Tools-Tested don't worry, just get 2.5 and 4ah for drill testing, 5 and 8ah are pointless in this application and not practical at all. Btw you will also be surprised how fast they charge... And in general it is a great platform to invest into, really great tools, they have it all, power, ergonomics and reliability.

[@Fastcarsslowwmoney]

Now you gotta get a cat to milwaukee adapter and see if their "revolutionary" battery hurts or helps the milwaukees performance

[@Tools-Tested]

Should be able to make it work, once I upgrade the dyno.

[@Fastcarsslowwmoney]

Hell yea

[@ryanb6658]

I guess the best thing about them is charge time

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep and maybe the life expectancy, but thats hard to test in the short term.

[@mos8541]

there is no evidence that those cells contain any graphene, the MSDS sheet does NOT nor does the shipping restriction note this, either the battery has no graphene or the MSDS sheets are illegal

[@Tools-Tested]

Wish I could cut one open, but I cant currently afford to. I still need it for other CAT tool testing.

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

Of course it's unlikely there's any graphene there. If confronted, I suppose they will claim it's just a flashy marketing name. But the fast charging is cool, wish other brands make a note of that. Most likely cells charged in several banks in parallel, like in modern phones with super fast charging

[@robertcasey3528]

Im no expert but i watch a lot of KZbin so that qualifies me for something but reliable sources say that's NOT a true graphene battery

[@culliganman578]

Ever tried the Dewalt Atomic? Lol

[@Tools-Tested]

Yeah I prefer XR over atomic.

[@elliotkane4443]

Thiese results are misleading, as you pointed out, if you test the Milwaukee with larger batteries it does way better. Not a fanboy, that Milwaukee gets a lot out of larger batteries.

[@Tools-Tested]

Yeah anything bigger on the Milwaukee and it will smoke the belt currently on the dyno.... Dyno is getting a major upgrade in a month or so, should be able to handle double the Watts. Cant wait to retest the Milwaukee and angle grinders!

[@garymcneil2216]

Awesome Milwaukee has blown the cat away. So much for cat power tools it is out done by the best . Cat is history.🤔

[@Tools-Tested]

Yep, can’t wait to test the m18 with higher amp batteries.

[@reddragon-mu5jl]

I'm from iraq i bought dx12 and dx71 cat fot 200 dollars

[@Tools-Tested]

Nice! they have come down in price here.

[@sashatass]

Why you compare Milwaukee with 1400lbs vs Cat with 700lbs? It's not fair comparison

[@riba2233]

Omg this "5ah" battery is ridiculous, it is soo big, should be more like 8-10ah for it's size and should never be used on a handheld drill. Btw if you tested Milwaukee with ho 6ah battery it would embarrass cat even more. It has a lot more power compared to this wimpy 5ah

[@Tools-Tested]

Yeah I'm about to upgrade the dyno so it can handle the M18 lol.

[@riba2233]

@@Tools-Tested awesome :)

[@BoraHorzaGobuchul]

I suppose they have several banks of cells inside, and additional circuitry for charging them in parallel, which explains faster charging.

[@TheChico868]

Driven to outperform.

[@Charles-lane277]

Milwaukee is actually assembled china not made in china.