CATFIGHT | Iranian F-14 Tomcat Vs American F-14 Tomcat Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

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[@Nicksanchez1122]

Day 14: r37 vs aim 54

[@Legendary_Tales]

Brah. 1080p?!?! Really??? I LOVE your videos but PLEASE BRING 4K BACK!! 😭

[@Me-nf8gk]

“Bandit Unknown” WWII edition.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Spoiler alert: Tomcat wins :)

[@someonee3186]

Suggestion: recreate the first battle of Donetsk airport in a Ukrainian Mi-24.

[@Galm02]

Could this be called a catfight?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

youre right, titled fixed lol.

[@Galm02]

@@GrowlingSidewinder 😂

[@Galm02]

@@GrowlingSidewinder man, it’s my bday and that just made my day

[@Hydra_6544]

@@Galm02 happy birthday

[@Galm02]

@@Hydra_6544 🥳

[@Ifoughtpiranhas]

You should have tried the ol' "force Jester to prematurely eject" tactic to lighten your aircraft and give you a weight advantage.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

And dump those non-growling Sidewinders at anywhere... :D

[@nexpro6118]

Dumping out jester/Rio would not cause an advantage with losing weight. The drag that you would create with the air not being able to cover over that section smoothly would cause drag

[@mcdonneldouglasf-4ephantom541]

@@nexpro6118 but jester is a wanker

[@timrushing81]

@@nexpro6118 I agree. The drag would cause drag.

[@CrackShotTac]

@@nexpro6118 bruh it's a joke

[@sgt.grinch3299]

The F14 is my favorite plane of all time. I love how it shakes and rattles. Great video. You were correct, he didn’t need that wing. Keep them coming GS.

[@F5Storm1]

They probably got that from Top Gun lol

[@mytubehkjt]

In the similar rate fight on the deck; try slowly giving away angles and slowly building airspeed to significantly above corner. Your bandit will march around the circle thinking he's winning. Just before he pulls his nose on, tighten down and build a square corner. Then at the right moment level the wings and go full vertical. He won't be able to follow. Roll over the top, slot into his 6 and shoot...

[@paulbrooks4395]

Well executed overall, a few normal mistakes, but these are my favorite fights to be in, where winning comes down to the slightest and luckiest moments. With an equal opponent, most of the time the fights end in a one circle.

[@Triple87]

Lord, I couldn’t imagine being in a rate fight this long in real life. Pure torture. Lol

[@morganh2800]

"He's got a slight nose up attitude." Me: typical American lol...

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

And if it's more than just slight, it's probably a Russian soldier at the Moscow parade or a guard directly around Putin... :D

[@RakeshKumar-qu9sk]

Lol

[@stevenborgogna]

The Tomcat is sooooo photogenic.

[@theracer1117]

My grandpa was involved in Irans purchasing of the F-14(on iran’s side)

[@tracytrawick322]

Intense as you walk us through the current tactics within the scope of the overall engagement. Knowing when you've gained, or lost an edge is such a key to staying alive, and you know instantly, and convey it to us. Keeps me in the fight. Even in defeat, great vid!

[@nazrinshah6644]

Its 100% pilot factor for this particular dogfight

[@thinlycut]

Always love seeing a "Growling sidewinder Tomcat video go up" - straight onto the like list!

[@Me-nf8gk]

This has nothing to do with the tactics of this fight, but I am now incredibly curious to know what the effects of an ejection would be on a pilot turned around in his seat looking to his 6 o’clock. At 15:16, when GS ejects, he’s looking back over his shoulder and my first thought was, “There’s a broken neck.” Anyway, great fight as always GS! Props to your adversary as well.

[@anthonieneveling6435]

Easy bro, lol....it is simply Neck-bracking. I would seriously NOT wanna experience it in level flight. . . At an Angle? I would probably just go down in flames. 🤪

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Best case scenario I think is you break your neck but you live lol.

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

Guess you'd be right... probably you'd want to tighten up all your muscles as much as possible and look forward when pulling the thing in order to minimize strain on the body.

[@timmer919]

I believe the seat is supposed to cinch down the harness (or should), forcing you into the correct posture before launching.

[@jpteknoman]

@@timmer919 it does but it doesn't do anything for the head, this is why the ejection handle is always put in a location that requires the pilot to assume the correct head position in order to pull it. in the case of the tomcat its the 2 black/yellow bars above the pilot's head. its not easy to grab and pull them while looking back but very easy if sitting straight.

[@nomar5spaulding]

"Look at that. Something is falling over there. It's part of me." RIP

[@magnanimus9692]

GS's Tomcat: "and Iran... Iran so far away... I just ran, Iran all night and daaay. I couldn't get away."

[@magnanimus9692]

@Ryan Kiesow lol :P

[@shelty3178]

This is just the question “who’s the better pilot?”

[@h.y1855]

Vow . got mixed feelings. But F14 Remains the most beautiful air craft ever made so majestic and yes from iran.

[@lancer737]

Mah the 4th be with you!!! I recently brought up a subject like this video you made. Thanks for this awesome video btw XD

[@geedub7912]

One of the best fights I've seen. That was amazing!!!

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

Is it possible to show your throttle in some of these rate fights? Great video as always!

[@lucasreiss1390]

Yeah statistics like throttle and speed would be interesting to see

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

@one night I can tell what he’s doing with the stick, it’s throttle and pedals I’m interested in.

[@dorkyrouge3372]

THIS WAS A GOOD TOPIC...GREAT VIDEO...ALWAYS WANTED A TOMCAT VS. TOMCAT....IM GLAD YOU USED MY FAVOURITE TOMCAT SQUADRON...THE VF -111 SUNDOWNERS...I ALSO LOVE THE VF-84 JOLLY ROGERS...

[@peterpovey5908]

Another great video, I have to say I do like the Iranian camouflage scheme, makes a change from grey😃

[@JimBob-vb8oz]

I couldn’t see it

[@Ganiscol]

"This American imperialist splashing dogfight is sponsored by Ayatollah Khamenei - Your favorite Ayatollah!"

[@vishnukolal5208]

how exactly does one optimally place the lift vector in a rolling scissors? trying to get better myself

[@GolddenWaffles]

Depends on what the other guy is trying to do, but I just try not to stall.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Lift vector on high six and pull

[@spartonblue14]

@@GrowlingSidewinder This would have been a really cool video for the TacView analysis. Why don’t you do it anymore?

[@blackshields809]

@@spartonblue14 Most of the concepts have already been covered multiple times. The OP here asking about lift vector placement in a rolling scissors for example has been covered 3 or 4 times. Maybe in the future if people want to see more unique or specific situations covered, GS could try to get in a situation to illustrate that in the fight and then in TacView?

[@kristofnagy5829]

"You don't need that wing, bro" XDDDDD

[@F5Storm1]

The F15 doesn't need both wings lol

[@J4FCovers]

This was one of the greatest rate fight you had, the other f14 driver was amazing!

[@brandonjohnson9084]

“I didn’t want to make the same mistake, so instead I made a completely different one” Tale as old as time…

[@Chio_OB]

It would be awesome if you could do a tutorial showing, the joystick, rudder and thrust axis! Also I'm so used to using a twist rudder I find the rudder pedals difficult, my mind reverses them like I'm reversing the axis (like I'm still rotating to anti clockwise to go left i.e pushing the right pedal to yaw left), so my mind is using the pedals that way). Should I re-learn or just embrace my way? (I'm not going to be flying a real plane anytime soon, or ever!).

[@Fishlord136]

It’s a lot easier and more precise to use pedals, you just gotta unlearn your mistakes

[@dsdy1205]

I think you should relearn, if for no other reason than you'll be speaking the same language when discussing flight control as everyone else. It can be helpful to think of it as stepping on the side of the nose that you want the nose to go, instead of rotating the whole plane in the yaw axis

[@Arash_G365]

This one was probably the most intense fight ever!

[@EnterpriseXI]

4:00 looks like their racing at RENO lol. Compressor stall, is that what caused Maverick's F-14a to crash and killing Goose?

[@disciple16]

Yes

[@maitreytelang2312]

Please make a video on Sukhoi Su-30 MKI Vs F-15C. I would really like to see how these two very similar fighters from around the world would compare.

[@the_gamewarden1607]

Unofficial day 80 of asking GS to fight the f22 in a warbird

[@blackshields809]

That's not really a fight. Why use a warbird? How about something from WWI? Maybe a slingshot?

[@donkeyhunter]

One of the best dog fight yet. Now you 2 use Raptors.

[@madaxe606]

Where did you get the Iranian livery for the F-14?

[@mohammadalishahrestani3803]

Fight between f-14a and f-14d to see awg9 is better with phoenix or aim-120 with apg-71. In long range battle

[@flameout12345]

This is probably the best dog firght i've seen from your vids

[@prodigalsoniv48]

50 P-51s vs 1 F22

[@Chio_OB]

That was most excellent! Looking forward to the new Top Gun movie even more now!

[@balkancommenterwithseveree7552]

I'm curious what the HUD symbology for the Russian weapons on the F14 would be...

[@timsullivan4566]

Love a good cat fight and this was certainly that.

[@procommunistdestruction2318]

Man I got so excited you gave him that second kill I am not used to you blowing your shot twice than losing sight lol your right it don't matter how good you are a mistake cost. I see what your saying now

[@sizeroner428]

just got recommended this video, such an afternoon!

[@faqirmohammadabdullah2906]

You don't need that wing bro 😂 almost spat my Pineapple juice out

[@anthonieneveling6435]

Regardles GS.. good dang fight. Equal on both sides, It seems that you just ran out of Luck...and Talent. It happens to the best of us! RESPECT Bro! 🤪

[@MaticJ29]

If two F-14s are fighting, is it technically a catfight?

[@lb7144]

The Top Gun fight we never got! Maverick v. Iceman!

[@RookFox]

10:49 lmao

[@brandonschwertley2723]

Hey GS, are you an ex-fighter pilot, or have you just devoted so much effort into DCS to be at this level? You are very proficient, and knowledgeable about the various aspects of air combat. You also are able to do alot just as second nature, without having to think about HOW to do something. You can just focus on actually doing what you want and thinking about your opponents next moves. It makes me wonder if you already had much of this knowledge before playing, and just had to learn the controls. If not how many hours of grinding and playing did it take for you to become this good?

[@th0rn3]

it’s just a lot of sim learning. he’s flown against real pilots on the channel and, besides them having a much better understanding than him, they’ve pointed out that they basically couldn’t do what GS does bc of the risk of accidentally revealing classified info by the way they fly

[@marsim5044]

I missed the Iranian vids bro

[@driver3306]

This should be an F14A vs F14B fight.

[@danaolsongaming]

He should have hit the brakes that first fight. You would have flown right by 😉

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

Great video GS!

[@clockworkorange3628]

You sliced his wing off like butter boy.

[@IcanDriveIt]

I’d love to see an Iranian F14a vs an American F14d. I want to know that the American F14 in its best version would smoke an Iranian F14

[@WALTERBROADDUS]

😼🇺🇸American Tabby vs. 🐱🇹🇯 Persian...

[@weasle2904]

The American F-14D was more advanced, also the Americans have higher skilled maintenance crews and tighter standards. Not to mention actually had access to spare parts. Iran's F-14's are probably below 10% combat readiness since the parts embargo. Not that it matters, the US uses much newer and superior aircraft now since the F-14 got retired.

[@monarastin552]

@@weasle2904 bro did you know the best f14 pilot is a Iranian pilot?

[@Grzeu1976]

Very nice dogfight. I like your video channel and movies.

[@ezyrider556]

Can you do an F-4 video? I don’t think I’ve see you fly one yet.

[@JohnBrown-cn8xg]

I love your videos. It's just like watching people play chess.

[@jonathanbarrell82]

Who was the opponent? Good pilot

[@charleswatkins8558]

Great vid as always, but who was flying the other bird ?

[@brandons9398]

To honor the anniversary of the original Star Wars movie, (A new Hope), you should of had R-2 as your REO!🤣

[@DoradoFever]

Still waiting for Heatblur to actually release the IRIAF F-14A 95GR

[@plkngtun]

Is that actually planned? If so, do you by any chance have a link? :-)

[@TheBeatenPaths]

I'm waiting for the Millennium Falcon Vs the F-14 Dogfight.

[@kenhelmers2603]

Damn good fights! Thanks Guys :)

[@Chris-il9mf]

So if your locked in a rate fight on the deck and you are slowly loosing the rate fight, the only thing you could do would be to try to offset but manage energy so you can tighten down if need be to deny the shot. Any type of reversal on the deck is pure suicide. correct? So your doomed and no way out accept to prolong the inevitable, right?

[@tigereyes2012]

Does dcs have the SU47? Cuz id love to see you fly or fight it if so ol

[@RagsHSC-7]

In the F 14 Cannons only F1 battle/ I normally have to get them around 400+ or - to intercept. Then bring the bogey in the vain to get the shot. This is the F 14 D model. What is the speed that you’re using an a 2 Circle in the F14 ? Awesome 😎 Ty

[@N330AA]

Iran win the at the paint job!

[@ghostrider1827]

Great knife fight... well done both of you. Who was the other guy??

[@corbycobb2449]

Are you pulling to hard in the f-14A that causes the compressor stall?

[@batelube3241]

AWSOME VIDEO THANK YOU FOR THE GREAT CONTENT.

[@indianajon7980]

Do you think it's skills improving in the A model or that heatblur have just remodelled it? I've found the same thing and often wonder is it me improving or the game changing.... 🤔

[@10thmountainvet]

Where are the settings/ performance standards for each aircraft coming from? I would imagine the Iranian F-14 would be vastly under maintained vs a U.S. Navy F-14. Any noticeable difference or just paint scheme?

[@Haya-OhWaves]

For god's sake, stay on the tarmac, get out of your cockpits and show us your karate moves, but LEAVE those Tomcats alone ! 😉

[@kevinmaguire5066]

I dont understand part of rate fighting. Why was gs not on the burner? Wouldn't he be able to Pull harder while maintaining rate speed? I always thought I was supposed to max out the turbine and manage my speed with how hard I Pull on the stick.

[@EminenceFrontX5]

Great episode

[@hitstick567]

Can you overlay stick and throttle inputs for fights like these sometimes?

[@jameswilliams1085]

wonderful!!! thank you!!!

[@ingoos]

Great fight. Good lessons.

[@TheLordoftheknight]

I would love to see a mirror match with the gripen

[@Appreciation-Community]

Awesome video dude. Nice to see you bleed a little for once too!

[@kaustubhacharya7642]

Do an Indian Rafale vs French Rafale.....Big fan bro...From India

[@peakymad3868]

Great video I really enjoyed it And btw you have a lot of Iranian fans thanks to your great content 👍

[@CasualClinkz]

Hey are you gonna do some Ww2 content again soon?

[@LeroyJ12]

fantastic video

[@fubaralakbar6800]

Your right wing was making the local farmer's job easier : )

[@fjspitz]

Tomcats! TOMCATS!!!

[@CakePrincessCelestia]

_TOMCATS!_

[@Waltham1892]

The Iranian F-14 should have been armed with Hawk missiles...

[@danpatterson8009]

So it sounds like the maximum rate of turn and best sustainable rate of turn are two different things. Presumably the sustainable rate of turn is determined by speed/altitude/weight, and a tighter turn may be had at the cost of bleeding off speed, so that the maximum rate of turn cannot be sustained. Thus the desire for lots of engine thrust to quickly regain lost speed in a rate fight and/or increase the best sustainable rate. The strategy in a rate fight would then be to keep best sustainable rate and hope that your opponent will do things that decrease his speed, then when range closes enough you go to maximum rate of turn and "pull him into the HUD" for a gun kill. Am I close?

[@topfeedcoco]

Great fight, awesome match.

[@jiceBERG]

F-14 IS the business Baby!

[@Firebase99]

Great balls of fire!!

[@logginggaming232]

Hey GS, wanted to let you know I bought the hornet and the supercarrier if your interested in doing some dogfights together, just bought it a couple weekends ago so still learning but I maybe confident in some gunfights

[@BobRomington]

Still no chance for cobra on Tomcat?)

[@gurukn]

hey GS! Could you please explain what "Lift vector placement" is?

[@blackshields809]

Lift vector is basically the line pointing straight up out of the top of your aircraft. It indicates the direction and force of the lift generated by your control surfaces (with air speed). When you are flying perfectly level, it is 180 degrees from the gravity vector that is pointing straight out of the bottom of your aircraft. When these two vectors are equal in force, you have level and steady flight. Remember that lift vector specifically is relative to your aircraft, so for example if you invert, both lift and gravity vectors describing the force on your A/C are now pointing down together. So, when you place that on a bandit's high six and keep it there while pulling aft on the stick, you are more or less driving towards that spot with the hope that he either won't or cannot due to low energy do the same to you in a rolling scissors. That should shoot him out in front of you and give you the angle to slot in behind him.

[@gurukn]

@@blackshields809 Thank you so much! Stunning how well you explain it even without pictures.

[@JAERNSPOKET]

more missions plz :)

[@terryritter7065]

So, I was rate fighting in front of a mirror today...

[@bbsurf5805]

Have you ever been accused of being a pre-ejectionator?

[@trad9580]

10:49 😂😂😂

[@mickeydoolittle2057]

No full flaps in the rate fight? Seems like you have done that in the past, no?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

ur technically not "supposed" to, so I only do it when desperate. Better break the aircraft than be dead.