Catholic Ideas at a Protestant Seminary - Dr. Jason Reed

[@FrJohnBrownSJ]

Thank y'all for this video. AMDG

[@cominghomenetwork]

And thank you for your kind words!

[@TuanAnhTPBQ]

I’m blessed to be a Catholic. Praise be to God!

[@salachenkoforley7382]

Amen....💕💕

[@silviae1000]

"If you become Catholic, you're Catholic for good" you're so right .Thank you Dr Jason Reed Many blessings from Argentina

[@tomloewen3572]

I love the "Thanks Mom" comment. It makes it real.

[@iolitamallari1393]

“Thanks Mom!” That felt absolutely right! Thank you Mama Mary!

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Let it be known to all: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! Hear me when I say, ye that are Catholic have been deceived and know not God. Ye worship Mary, praying to her; when God tells his to worship none other than him. It is idolatry. Catholicism has its own Bible and teachings, which are blasphemous to the word of God: the Holy Bible. As ye follow the teachings of man and not God; ye hear the pope, but not Jesus, yet ye claim to be his disciples! These are but a few things I named ye dwell within; there are many more. I tell you now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." Revelation 22:8-9 KJV 8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.* 3 John 1:11 KJV 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. *He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.* 1 John 3:6-10 KJV 6 *Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.* 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: *he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.* 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 *Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.* 10 *In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,* neither he that loveth not his brother.

[@glennlanham6309]

@@Call_Upon_YAH just one more troll

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

@@glennlanham6309 You haven't the ears to hear the truth. None can come to God unless he draws them. Ye Catholics sit in sin daily and understand that. While one of his are clearly telling you what is in his word and what you do is contrary to it. Woe to ye idolaters.

[@bradtolits9022]

@@glennlanham6309 Please brother pray to God sincerly, to have a proper discernment between the true Holy Spirit and the foolish spirit.

[@glennlanham6309]

@@bradtolits9022 or in your case a heretic spirit

[@fernandoalarcon8534]

As a Protestant for half of my life. I believe I am on that road to the Catholic Church.

[@traditionalgirl3943]

Wonderful to hear this and to see the warm joyful smile on this man’s face and in his eyes when he speaks of the Catholic Church and our Blessed Mother! ✝️😊

[@pemcortes9467]

Absolutely proud of my Mama Mary.

[@pincher111]

I absolutely love stories like this, Thank you Blessed Mother, and thank you my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ for The Catholic Church

[@RangerGrant]

I’ve been a Protestant Evangelical pastor for 8 years and was just received into the Catholic Church on Pentecost Sunday 🙌🏼 I’m JUST now learning about virtues and vices and have been wondering why I never heard anything about them in a Protestant context. I wonder if they miss discussions on virtues because of the belief of Sola Fide… from a Protestant perspective, virtues may not need to be discussed since there and no “works” involved in our salvation. I’ll need to sit on this more! This was interesting!

[@josephssewagudde8156]

Great! How did you overcome all the 'anti catholic verses"in the bible evangelical teach all the time. It is not easy

[@RangerGrant]

Hey @@josephssewagudde8156. Understanding context and the historical interpretation of "contentious" verses helped me tremendously. I actually preached a sermon on this while still a Prot Pastor 😄 kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4Paop-cpcuafaM

[@normaivy8076]

Welcome home brother!!! Now we concentrate on bringing souls to Jesus our Lord!!!And Mother Mary can point the way! No contradiction!!!!just love!

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Be it known: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! Hear me when I say, ye that are Catholic have been deceived and know not God. Ye worship Mary, praying to her; when God tells his to worship none other than him. It is idolatry. Catholicism has its own Bible and teachings, which are blasphemous to the word of God: the Holy Bible. As ye follow the teachings of man and not God; ye hear the pope, but not Jesus, yet ye claim to be his disciples! These are but a few things I named ye dwell within; there are many more. I tell you now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." Revelation 22:8-9 KJV 8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.* 3 John 1:11 KJV 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. *He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.* 1 John 3:6-10 KJV 6 *Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.* 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: *he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.* 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 *Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.* 10 *In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,* neither he that loveth not his brother.

[@DAIHSSMITH]

​@@Call_Upon_YAH Be it known... ye are a real dorketh 🤡😂

[@srisheo]

@@Call_Upon_YAH no catholics dont worship mary we just ask her intercession for us because she is in heaven and can intercede for us like she did in the wedding at cana! Like you ask others to pray for you here on earth, we catholics ask mary to pray for is in heaven, bcz her intercession is powerful, and why wouldnt it be? She IS the mother of God after all! And the whole reason there is division and why catholics have to call themselves catholics is bcz of the reformation and protestants who wanna call themselves baptists, lutherans, etc. otherwise, catholics are the original christians! the original followers of christ! We were only started to be called Catholics after everyone else wanted to call themselves different things!

[@MrCdepue]

​@sirimiridays I understand what people say but just worry because the point is to know God. That's why Jesus says I never knew you, it's really subtle, but you need to know God. For instance in the old testament over and over over God says then they will know that I am the lord. They always knew he was God but God is talking about knowing his ways. And read Jeremiah and Isaiah/Ezekiel, they worshipped the queen of heaven in the past and they said we have not chased after the baals we worship God. In the very end the Rev 13 9 I believe but don't quote me on that, the second beast has two horns like a lamb but speaks lile a dragon. The false church looks like a lamb but speaks like a dragon. As long as you have a relationship with Jesus christ I don't care what you call yourself but make sure you do for many on that day will say lord lord and he will say I never knew you. Not I knew you once, NEVER at all, in fact you're practices of evil. How can that happen? The answer is knowing the lord. A real key is what Jesus says to peter after he asks who peter thinks he is. Was it revealed by Mary who points the way? No it was revealed by the father himself, no one cones to father but through Jesus and no one knows the son but through God himself, God himself is our redeemer not his creation

[@PatrickSteil]

Yes! The Catholic Faith is so deep! EVERYTHING The Catholic Church provides and teaches helps us Love Jesus more and Trust Him with our very lives. Perhaps we need to train a bunch of Professors to teach Catholic Philosophy. :)

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

Let it be known to all: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! Hear me when I say, ye that are Catholic have been deceived and know not God. Ye worship Mary, praying to her; when God tells his to worship none other than him. It is idolatry. Catholicism has its own Bible and teachings, which are blasphemous to the word of God: the Holy Bible. As ye follow the teachings of man and not God; ye hear the pope, but not Jesus, yet ye claim to be his disciples! These are but a few things I named ye dwell within; there are many more. I tell you now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." Revelation 22:8-9 KJV 8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.* 3 John 1:11 KJV 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. *He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.* 1 John 3:6-10 KJV 6 *Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.* 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: *he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.* 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 *Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.* 10 *In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,* neither he that loveth not his brother.

[@PatrickSteil]

@@Call_Upon_YAH You have been taught to hate caricatures of what you think are the Catholic Church - please, for the love of a society which has lost its mind - learn what the Catholic Church ACTUALLY stands for and teaches. THEN you can try and refute THAT - not what other anti-Catholics have done to slander another Church. You say there is no division - that is exactly what the Catholic Church has been fighting since the beginning. Protestantism has fractured the Church into a a billion pieces - do you stand against Protestantism and for ONE Church that professes ONE Faith?

[@bradtolits9022]

@@Call_Upon_YAHI pray to God that He will sent His Angels to cast away the devil in you.

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

It's the wrong Jesus.!

[@PatrickSteil]

@@benjaminfalzon4622 Care to expound on your claim? I believe (and Trust with my whole being) in Jesus of the Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Spirit. The one who created a New Covenant in His Blood to be the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. The one who established a Church who grew to all nations so that I can learn of His Great love 2000 years later. The one who is The Truth. The one I worship at every Mass when I join Him at His Table to receive His Body and Blood as he commanded us to do.

[@ArmenChakmakian]

People who are able to go to daily mass any day or everyday and don’t are really missing out. It quickly became the best part of my day.

[@mikecastelluccio7072]

I agree 100%

[@CBlackartist]

Mary,Seat of Wisdom pray for us

[@patriciajohnson1894]

❤ from a Catholic from South Africa 🇿🇦

[@lucillebonds2196]

Dr. Reed - Welcome Home. Of Mary, there is never enough!

[@ilonkastille2993]

Absolutely beautiful.

[@SD-fk8bt]

Absolutely amazing👍 Love from a Catholic in India ❤

[@mongledestine4214]

Jason Reed was my professor of philosophy and he was kind of figure intellectual that has power to change you and help you to see clearly the importance of philosophy in our modern society. I am really inspired by his teachings and hoping that he can subjugate others students the same way he did to me. Christ in Peace Prof Reed

[@yhu4455]

Dr. Jason Reed Welcome home.....Mother Mary got you.... the Catholic Church has everything.

[@lucillebonds2196]

Therefore, the Holy Bible is Catholic, pure, and simple!!! Ave Maria!!!

[@glennlanham6309]

excellent reasoning!

[@silviamarholin615]

Beautiful!!!!👌

[@alfonsohuaman6116]

Weak Catholics become Evangelicals Strong Evangelicals become Catholic

[@neilanadams5173]

If you sincerely are looking for deeper meaning and deeper spirituality you end up Catholic.

[@madmextupapa]

Great narrative!

[@ArmenChakmakian]

4:53 I learned recently this is The Gift of Tears

[@christinacanto3740]

Praise the Lord ❤

[@scottsirk9364]

Excellent fair analysis and thank you for your great work explaining Saint John Paul II masterful Theology of the Body

[@kevinphillips150]

If this is what Protestants think, what makes them think they are Christians? As for having an inward mentality of Christianity, even scripture disagrees with that. Remember, those who tremble with fear and do the will of God until the end of time, those will be saved.

[@ilonkastille2993]

What I also find beautiful is paragraph 819 in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.

[@DonTullioRotondo]

Thank you. Great!!!

[@Msc762]

Amen 🙏 ❤

[@ingoditrust7784]

I think there is not such a thing as an absolutely honest Protestant theologian. At some point, either you believe what you see, or you disbelieve in order to not go there. Truth can't be misleading. So there must be some kind of a conscious decision, do I acknowledge truth or do I keep applying subjective dissociation?

[@maryvictor1739]

†TRUE AND POWERFUL CONVERSION STORY, OF A GREAT SINNER AND GREAT MIRACLES! Part II Thank GOD for our LADY of GUADALUPE; when I visited her Shrine in Mexico in Dec. 2012, and I was suffering at the time of "Sleep Apenea" I was healed really while still there - FRARNKLY, my first intensions were to honor her! †Also, when I prayed few Rosaries to help me to quit smoking cigaretes on May 17, 1998, she answered my prayers immediately, though I was SUPER skeptical at that time, (prv 3: 5) †Truly, when I was inspired to recite one single Rosary in December 12, 2000, I was healed from my unbelief (Jn. 14: 1) - and I tried at the time first to pray OUR FATHER, but I couldn't remember the prayer; but GOD still saved me (Jn 14:15 - 27)! †Also During my first Rosary procession outdoors in May 13, 2001, I saw Queen of the Holy Rosary walking with us for 4-5 seconds; And she was dressed of long, dark, blue dress & absolutely attractive one, etc. etc! †Since my conversion, I try NOT to miss attending Mass weekly or daily etc. And I pray the Devine Mercy Chaplet at 3:00pm, and I NEVER miss it. †UNDOUBTLY, Reading & meditating on "Gospel of life" according to the daily readings is like my "daily bread" And I read the Bible from cover to cover 3 times since my conversion! - and I read the CCC as well, (Is. 55: 10 -11) and "I truely use the Bible as a guide & compass for my life". I remember very well that In the beginning of 2003 I heard VERY sweet voices for few times singing above my bed as I awoke in the morning, and they continued nearly 5 seconds! Also, I like to what some one says: every winter turns into spring. But "The fool says in his heart, "There is no God" (Ps.14:1). †Unfortunately, many "Catholics don't know what they have, and Evangelicals don't know what they are missing!" †And I used to attend few different Evangelical Churches for few years searching for TRUTH while residing in Stockholm & they opened my eyes a LITTLE bid to the facts of faith at the time. † God is still in the miracle buisness. And thank God for the ROSARY miracle prayer, etc.(Ps. 107:13- 14). And St. Paul said: "No l eye has not seen, no ear has heard no mind has conceived, what God has prepared for those who LOVE Him." - 1 Cor 2: 9 * "This is the day which GOD hath made a day for us to REJOICE & be GLAD"- Ps.118: 2). †FORMER POPE BENEDICT XVI ONCE SAYS: "BROTHERS & SISTERS PRAY FOR ME THAT I MAY NOT FLEE OF FEAR OF WOLVES" * GUADALUPE FILM 20 minutes:kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJnUgGWVj62Njpo *kzbin.info/www/bejne/foGXZ5mre5ibl9E * WORTH VIEWING:: WHEN TURKISH IMPIRE TRY TO INVADE EUROPE IN 1571 THE POPE CALLED ALL CHRISTIANS IN EUROPE TO PRAY THE ROSARY. THE ISLAMIC TROOPS WHERE PUSHED BACK WHILE THEIR NUMBER WAS FAR MORE THAN EUROPEAN- well known Fr. Chris Alar speaks boldly: Watch "Is the Rosary Biblical? - Ask a Marian" on KZbin kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYe1fY2EgKqeb5Y ††† By Saba Korial and I was born in Middle East, now Canadian & Christian CATHOLIC & part of **** 1.360 Million world wide Catholics. (2 Tm 2:4 & 4:7) - NOTE that the Name of God is mentioned 3 times while praying the ROSARY as follow: first the LORD, then Jesus & GOD (RV. 3:10). †"Do not forget this: there will be terrible times in the last days." -2 Tim 3:01 (Also Check 1 Tim 4:1 - The New American Bible) † "A believer in his Kees sees more than phelosophor in his tipteos"(....) ---------- *"IT'S BETTER TO KNOW SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAN ALL OF THE ANSWERS" -James Thundber *NEW BOOK by Steve Weidenkopf: " Light from Darkness: Nine Times the Catholic Church Was in Turmoil-and Came Out Stronger Than before" †(WoW): Watch this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aJOzhXZsrcl5pdk ---------- WORTH VIEWING : kzbin.info/www/bejne/l4mZoaBvfJqZqas †Ctholic concert kzbin.info/www/bejne/fHS7hoilqL2loq8 † DON'T MISS: 1. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYmnYoqoZrR3eMU 2. WoW kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWxoqOmnNigrdk

[@jimmyribble6332]

I'm agree but it's hard to share. Like, Who ARE. you, why am I thinking divine intervention, I'm insane, buy I keep praying the Rosary, attend Mass, knowing people don't believe in it, religion? Modernism, Humanists, Free Masonists, Deists Jefferson n Franklin, Freudians...are THEY ALL wrong... ?! Or am I nuts?!? 😅😅😂

[@ingoditrust7784]

You are ready for Maria Valtorta. God Bless

[@DS-or4og]

Beloved brothers and sisters in the Catholic faith, I dearly recommend you to watch the videos of the reverend father Luis Toro, the videos are in Spanish, but some have been translated to English and Portuguese.

[@Peggyanns]

Welcome Home

[@euengelion]

I wonder what are the books that he read? I'd love to read them too :)

[@edmundpasan529]

The POWER of GOD

[@johncox2284]

The historic Christian faith makes sense when you set aside the Romaphobic attitudes of Protestantism that began with Luther and his contemporaries.

[@bigideasthescholar]

John 1:1-4 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things were made through him, and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life, and the life was the light of men." Jesus existed before Mary so Mary cannot be the mother of God. She was simply the avenue through which Jesus brought himself incarnate. Mothers come before their children, not the other way around.

[@TheThreatenedSwan]

People give birth to persons. Did Mary give birth to Christ fully or not? You're opening a can of worms of heresy which is the exact reason why the Church made this a point of emphasis in the first place: to have correct Christology

[@JB91484]

IMHO, the reason most Catholics don't quote scripture is because the mass and the faith is ALL based on scripture. We don't need to "Proof Text" or existence or defend our faith. Just study the early church fathers and try to disprove the mass step by step. piece by piece. Line by line.

[@taylorbarrett384]

What in the world? "Where do I find exhortations to virtue in the evangelical world?" Go listen to any sermon. Protestants and evangelical communities do a *better* job of instilling virtue into people than we do. Our homilies and our communities are dry and empty (most of the time). Show up, boring homily that doesn't engage, everyone leaves without talking to each other. Do it again next Sunday. Now go to an evangelical community. Everyone does life together, studies the Bible together, prays together, encourages each other to live for Jesus, the sermon is engaging and edifying. As far as Mary being the mother of God, yeah, but that doesn't necessitate Mariology, much less "co redemptrix." There is something to be said for the intellectual side of the Catholic faith and what it can offer in comparison to what Protestantism (practically, not intrinsically) offers. That and the devotion to Mary expressed by apparently holy and wise men, are the only two things this speaker mentions that has substance in regards to choosing Catholicism over against evangelicalism.

[@richardounjian9270]

If the priest you mentioned is boring, find a more inspiring parish. What, you think all protestant pastors are like Jimmy Swaggart? Fyi, you don't go to Mass to be entertained or to socialize. You go to offer yourself to God, give thanks to God and to receive Jesus in the Eucharist.

[@taylorbarrett384]

@@richardounjian9270 I've been to thousands of Masses in a hundred parishes all around the country. In that time I've heard only two homilies that were engaging/convicting/helpful. And I spent years living with and studying with and going to Mass with the Dominicans everyday. But virtually everytime I go to any Protestant parish, the sermon is always engaging/helpful. This is a fact of reality that everyone with experience of both sides testifies to. You don't need to tell me what Mass is about. I teach Catholicism professionally. And while we aren't there to be entertained, we certainly are supposed to be engaged, instructed, etc. You can belittle attempts to arouse our emotions, but the most important book in the Old Testament is entirely about expressing our emotions and arousing our emotions to God. And that's part of what hymns, incense, stained glass, gigantic cathedrals, etc, are supposed to do. The fact the Mass is boring is a great tragedy, something we should work to fix, not something we should be defending. And Mass may not be "to socialize" but it certainly is supposed to be a social gathering, a real community event, in which we all come together as family. And that's not what it is now.

[@richardounjian9270]

@@taylorbarrett384 well, I accept what you say. However, I too travel quite often and I haven't found the same experience. Sure, I have heard poor homilies but, they are the rare exception in my opinion. Dynamic speaking is an art. Unfortunately, I have heard from several sources that priests are told that the average person in the pew has an attention span of about 10 minutes. Keep the homily short. For some who aren't artful speakers this may be good advice. I have a priest at my parish who is a tremendous speaker. He can deliver a half hour homily and you think it only was a minute. The other issue is just time. If you have a string of Masses on a Sunday morning, you have to keep a schedule. As a fellow Catholic I think you would agree that the Mass is more structured than a protestant service. Unless the service has a liturgical nature the sermon is the main event. In those "low church" settings if the preaching is poor that minister won't last long. I believe that artful speaking is a prerequisite for that ministry

[@TruthHasSpoken]

@@taylorbarrett384 All the criticism aside, how do you suggest "fixing" the Mass ? I don't have the same experience as you with the Mass or the experience at Church. And, I would never trade protestant grape juice and crackers - which I can get in my kitchen - for the Resurrected Christ in the Eucharist, a means for receiving his grace, as all Christians received for the first 1500 years.

[@JohnAlbertRigali]

Deus vult! ✝️

[@andrewmeans2415]

Mary is co-redemptrix because the flesh on the cross comes from her? Bizarre line of thinking in my opinion

[@cominghomenetwork]

Mary cooperates in the redemption, as Noah cooperated in the building of the ark, and Moses cooperated in the parting of the Red Sea. God's action, their cooperation! Except with Mary, it's the added mind-blowing mystery of God incarnate taking on the DNA of mother, and becoming one of us in one of the most mysterious and intimate ways possible. We don't know why he chose to involve us at all, but it certainly shows forth the mystery of his love and his plan...

[@richardounjian9270]

Eve was instrumental in the fall of man. Catholics consider Mary as the new Eve. Thus, Mary through her flesh bore the Christ. Her flesh in Jesus participated in our redemption. Then you have Lk 2: 25-35. 35 being important. As an aside, in traditional Catholic art the Immaculate Heart of Mary is a figure of Mary with her heart aflame pierced by a sword as refrenced in v 35. Hopefully this helps

[@wendyleeconnelly2939]

Not in Evangelical thinking doesn't always mean not in Protestant thinking. You couldn't find these ideas in any of the works by Presbyterian/Reformed, or Anglican, or Wesleyan, or Lutheran thinkers or writers?

[@mattswaim8366]

For sure, as a Wesleyan, we believed we should progress in virtue, with the aid of grace, toward "entire sanctification," possible in this life. But any discussion of the Virtues proper, and breaking down the elements of how they interact with one another, I had to get from Aquinas and the rest. For sure, Wesley called people to cooperate with grace, avoid sin, an lean on God in the path of Christian perfection, but that conversation about the philosophy of virtue and the components of each virtue was new to me when I discovered the Catholic perspective on it (incidentally, I DID hear about it in philosophy class at.a Wesleyan university, but our interlocutors for those discussions were Aristotle, Augustine and Aquinas). Ultimately, I found that the way the Catholic Church talked about the virtues was completely consistent with how I thought about them in general as a Wesleyan, but it was such a larger and deeper and more complex, and to be honest, exciting conversation that I had ever been able to have in a purely Wesleyan context. I'm sure there have been Wesleyans in the intervening years (my studies in this were in the 90's) who have done more to unpack this conversation, and probably even formally dialogue with Catholics on. I can't speak on behalf of Reformed theology, other than to say that it's a very different kind of Christian anthropology and view of Grace than the Catholic/Wesleyan view, so I can see it being a very different conversation about what is meant by virtue and how the virtues work.

[@mj6493]

Honestly, I don't think he looked very hard.

[@j.g.4942]

As a Lutheran this demonstrates the poverty of American Christianity more than anything else; thank God the Spirit brought him out of that into a synod that affirms the 'two natures in Christ'. That said, we don't view Thomas Aquinas as of a different tradition; rather that the Lutheran tradition is a continuation of Christ's Church down through time. He's a fallible saint, like Luther and Cyril. Today there is more in English (has taken us a while to translate), yet we often prefer the older works (Bonhoeffer, Gerhard, Luther, St Cyril of Alexandria, the Cappadocian Fathers, etc.). The only difference in virtue ethics that I've seen in the Lutheran tradition is the recognition of spirits driving people in different directions (spirit of wealth, or pride, or whatever). It's not just 'justice' or 'courage' these are influenced by the spirits. In the right order under the Holy Spirit all is good; in an evil order justice is not justice nor is courage courage. (But that's just an application of 'sola fide' so I wouldn't expect that in Roman Catholic circles). (sources are my previous pastors, various literature mostly non-academic, and the laity; sorry I don't have anything specific yet Bonhoeffer's "Life Together" is usually appreciated)

[@patriciajohnson1894]

​@@mj6493 he made the right decision and joined The Church... God bless his journey in and through the faith

[@patriciajohnson1894]

You answered your own question. And Yes they're are still protesting, the difference is these churches are protesting amongst themselves. There's 33000+ Protestant/evangelical churches. When they don't agree on doctrine, another church pop's up. That's the difference between the Catholic Church and other churches. We can disagree on things, the pope can have an opinion we don't agree with but he just can't change doctrine willy, nilly...that is our anchor and sets The Church apart

[@superapex2128]

How can you say 'Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities AS MEANS OF SALVATION' with a straigth face? Why would anyone go through the considerable trouble of studying the Fatih if SALVATION can be found 'outside the confines' of the Church?

[@Kitiwake]

Invincible ignorance is a route to salvation.

[@superapex2128]

@@Kitiwake Willful ignorance is a route to damnation. If you think ignorance is bliss, think again: we are members of a fallen race and WILL go to Hell unless we seek out the Truth 'with all our minds' (intellectual faculties). Your comment illustrates my point: focusing on the 'elements' of Truth outside the Church only leads to complacency in seeking it out.

[@ThatNerdyCatholic]

Here is a long reply, but these three paragraphs from the Catechism are needed here. This is how we should all be approaching our separated brethren. 817 In fact, "in this one and only Church of God from its very beginnings there arose certain rifts, which the Apostle strongly censures as damnable. But in subsequent centuries much more serious dissensions appeared and large communities became separated from full communion with the Catholic Church - for which, often enough, men of both sides were to blame." The ruptures that wound the unity of Christ's Body - here we must distinguish heresy, apostasy, and schism - do not occur without human sin: Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies, and disputes. Where there is virtue, however, there also are harmony and unity, from which arise the one heart and one soul of all believers. 818 "However, one cannot charge with the sin of the separation those who at present are born into these communities [that resulted from such separation] and in them are brought up in the faith of Christ, and the Catholic Church accepts them with respect and affection as brothers .... All who have been justified by faith in Baptism are incorporated into Christ; they therefore have a right to be called Christians, and with good reason are accepted as brothers in the Lord by the children of the Catholic Church." 819 "Furthermore, many elements of sanctification and of truth" are found outside the visible confines of the Catholic Church: "the written Word of God; the life of grace; faith, hope, and charity, with the other interior gifts of the Holy Spirit, as well as visible elements." Christ's Spirit uses these Churches and ecclesial communities as means of salvation, whose power derives from the fullness of grace and truth that Christ has entrusted to the Catholic Church. All these blessings come from Christ and lead to him, and are in themselves calls to "Catholic unity."

[@atrifle8364]

The question is not about those who study. Most of the world is not comprised of philosophy students with enough time, able and willing to think problems through. If you were born Protestant and have no skills or realistic means of correcting the situation and end up as a Baptist, what are we to think about that? Has God abandoned him? In other words, is there a difference between Martin Luther, who has zero excuses on his judgement day and multiple generation Lutherans seeking God? I think the answer is yes. Mary tells us that God has mercy on those who fear Him in every generation. There must be then a Church Invisible along with the visible. Salvation is always through the Church. However a just judge cannot condemn where no choice/gifts are given. That said, anyone with intellectual gifts with full capacity of choice are apparently in grave jeopardy if they do not fully embrace truth of the Church Visible.

[@mrjeffjob]

While it’s POSSIBLE it’s not likely. In my experience, as an ex-Catholic evangelical, and now as a Catholic revert, invincible ignorance, at least in this country is highly unlikely. Most of the time when push comes to shove, it comes down to one thing, the pelvic issues, contraception, divorce, remarriage, sodomy on and on and on.

[@keithpeterson5127]

Roman Catholics and fundamentalist protestantism have a similar theology. The So called "Evangelicals" never had a reformation. According to Bonhoffer the protestants in America never had a true reformation.

[@crok8349]

But pope is not catholic...

[@johnrowland9570]

Do you also believe in the immaculate conception, the perpetual virginity, the assumption of Mary into heaven without seeing death? Do you believe that the mass is a propitatory sacrifice . Do you venerate saints and relics. If so you indeed have become a true Catholic. None of this is in the bible

[@patriciajohnson1894]

Sigh 😅.... I'm glad you read your bible, thank you. Who decided which books make up the Bible. Who compiled the Bible you are reading ....??? Do a little bit of homework

[@srisheo]

If Elijah and enoch could be taken up into heaven, what makes you think the mother of God won’t be assumed into heaven? Luke 22:19, Jesus says ‘this IS my body’, not represent/signify but ‘IS’! Venerating saints and relics is not worship but honouring those who had perfect faith and did God’s will perfectly, which then leads to praising God for using these people to do His will! plus its not a necessity to venerate the relics, you need to pray to the Lord and Holy Spirit to guide you instead of being prideful and interpreting the bible in what you deem to be fit

[@PetarStamenkovic]

Truth is redemptive and I can understand how going from Protestantism to Catholicism is a big jump in freedom and logic. But why stop there? Why not go to Orthodoxy?

[@essafats5728]

Orthodoxy? Russian or Ukraine?

[@PetarStamenkovic]

@@essafats5728 Not as important, as long as the church is in good standing with the other orthodox churches. It is the church that is the key, not a particular subset.

[@AinokeaIdowhatIlike808]

Not enough orthodox churches to attend.

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

The Pagan Catholic Church is full of ideas, but nothing is based on the word of God, just on Pagan traditions, which God strongly condemns. The facts are, that Christianity began in Jerusalem 2000 years ago, Pagnism started long before that, and it flourished in Rome until this very day.

[@patriciajohnson1894]

🤔🙄😅

[@amol_6561]

The problem with this argument is that, if you state that paganism entered within the church after the council of Rome, which was the council that defined the canon of the Bible, then you have that a lot of practices and beliefs that protestants criticize nowadays about the church already existed, like the baptism of infants, the hierarchy of the church, some Marian devotions, the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist, and so go on; and if you state that paganism entered before, you should question the proper authority of the church when it defined the canon of the Bible, and let’s not forget that all the books in the protestant Bible were chosen by the Catholics. Protestants may have removed some books, but they didn’t added none. In other words, you would have to question if the Bible was truly inspired, since supposedly it was a pagan church that defined it’s books.

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

@@amol_6561 I never heard of the canon of the Bible. I heard about soldiers being used as cannon fodder, but never about the canon of the Bible. The argument is this. Jesus Christ wasn't baptized when he was an infant, Jesus was baptized when he was in his early 30s. The facts are, according to the pagan Catholic church, those who follow the teachings of the Bible are called Protestants, and the ones that follow the Pagan doctrines and Pagan traditions are called Catholics. The reason that the Catholic church is called the Roman Catholic church is that it compromised the teachings of the Bible with the teachings of the Pagan Roman Empire of 2,000 years ago. The Catholic Bible is just like the Jehovah's Witnesses Bible, called the "New World Translation". "NWT". Both the "NWT" and the Catholic Bible have been seriously doctored. The Pagan Catholic Bible has an extra 13 books added to it, which were not inspired by God". The "NWT" doesn't have any extra books as the Pagan Bible does, but the "NWT" added, changed, and deleted many words and letters that were inspired by God. Also, The Catholic church has deleted God's 2nd, commandment concerning idolatry. See for yourself. Compare the Catholic Church's 2nd commandment, with God's 2nd commandment in Deut 5:8-9 This is exactly what the JWs "NWT" does. Also, the Catholic church changed God's Sabbath day, from Saturday to Sunday. Sunday was the day when the Pagan Roman Empire citizens and other Pagans all over the world worshipped the Sun' Read Ezekiel 8:14-16. "KJV". "The Catholic Church still uses an image of a golden sun that the priest holds in his hands during worship during pagan ceremonies". I think you know the image of the golden sun I'm talking about. Correction. It's Called, "Holy Bible." and not the Protestant Bible. The Catholic church had nothing to do with any credible books which were selected for the Bible. That decision was from God. Not the Catholic Church, the only books that the catholic church placed in Its own Bible are the 13 uninspired books. In fact, the catholic church persecuted the Christians who read or even owned a copy of the Bible.

[@srisheo]

@@benjaminfalzon4622 do you really believe the holy bible just came into this world out of nowhere? You are denying clear factual history by saying the catholic church didn’t compile the bible. being anti-catholic is not very christ-like of you! Pray earnestly to the Lord to reveal truth to you and see what happens!

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

@@srisheo All that the pagan Catholic Church did to the Bible is added an extra 13 uninspired books. The Bible was inspired by God in three different languages. Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. So why does the Pagan Church chants and sing in Latin? Latin was the language of the Pagan Roman Empire. The Catholic Church's doctrines are based on Pagan traditions and Pagan worshipping and not on the teachings of the Bible. The Pagan Church doesn't even have a clue what the Bible is all about.

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

They with ears to hear, let them hear: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! Hear me when I say, ye that are Catholic have been deceived and know not God. Ye worship Mary, praying to her; when God tells his to worship none other than him. It is idolatry. Catholicism has its own Bible and teachings, which are blasphemous to the word of God: the Holy Bible. As ye follow the teachings of man and not God; ye hear the pope, but not Jesus, yet ye claim to be his disciples! These are but a few things I named ye dwell within; there are many more. I tell you now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." Revelation 22:8-9 KJV 8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.* 3 John 1:11 KJV 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. *He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.* 1 John 3:6-10 KJV 6 *Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.* 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: *he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.* 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 *Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.* 10 *In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,* neither he that loveth not his brother.

[@hailholyqueen]

Most of your comments are not about the subject matter of this video, but I'll correct one of your comments, since it seems to be a misunderstanding. Catholics don't worship Mary in the current meaning of "worship", languages change over time as shown by the different kjv bibles. Ironically, you yourself pointed this out by proof texting Revelation 22:8. Today's meaning of worship is reserved to the Creator alone. Period. BTW, phrasing your comments in a kjv style adds absolutely no authority to the misguided points you attempt.

[@FrankNStein-pf9rr]

VIRGIN Mother Mary IS the MOTHER of God!!! SHE protects HER offspring. Virgin Mother Mary crushed the head of the SERPENT with her immaculately conceived VIRGINAL LEFT FOOT VIRGINAL BIG TOE OHhhhhhh MOTHER MaryALLELULUYUH!! Let us pray. MaryalleluYA!! OHhhhh Virgin Mother MaryalleluYA. Hail, Holy Queen, Mother of mercy, our life, Queen of Heaven, Goddess Star of the Sea, our sweetness and our only hope! To You do we cry, we who are the poor banished children of Eve. To You do we send up our sighs, mourning and weeping in this valley of tears. Turn then, most gracious advocate, your eyes of mercy toward us and after this our exile, show unto us You are our Mother. O O O clement, O loving, O You sweet Virgin Mary. “OH, MY LADY.” My Queen and my Mother, I give myself entirely to you; and to show my devotion to you, I consecrate to you this day my eyes, my ears, my mouth, my heart, my whole being without reserve. Wherefore, good Mother as I am your own, keep me, guard me, as your property and possession. Amun & Amun!! Black Madonna of Częstochowa! Black infant JESUS born of Black Madonna of Częstochowa! AMUN AMUN AMUN!!

[@peterzinya1]

Dr Jason Reed, use your head for more than a hat rack. Jesus was born a man. His title is :son of man". Mary gave birth to a man. Jesus shed his divinity. No charge for the lesson.

[@patriciajohnson1894]

Dear Peter...he was fully human and fully Divine. He was divinely created...and Mary's Fiat was...let It be done to me according to thy Will/Word ., ❤️ Beautiful

[@peterzinya1]

@@patriciajohnson1894 jesus shed his divinity to become human.

[@dunizfernandes3048]

You mean all the miracles the Lord performed were in his human (man) capacity.

[@peterzinya1]

@@dunizfernandes3048 yes. jesus said if we have faith we can do the same things and greater. read the bible, but this time.....believe it.

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

So what? Jesus was born a jew, not a pagan Roman Catholic or a Protestant. Jesus was also born in Jerusalem and not in Rome. When Jesus returns, he will stand on the Mount of Olives in Jerusalem. Zecharia 14:4. The protestants know that, but Catholics don't. The anointing oil of King Charles 111 Coronation was transported from Jerusalem and not from Rome. Protestants worship in Jesus' name, not some imaginary Catholic Lady. I'm not a Protestant or a Catholic, but if I had to choose I'd rather be a protestant any day

[@kevionrogers2605]

Bible states Jesus was born in Bethlehem not Jerusalem.

[@benjaminfalzon4622]

@@kevionrogers2605 That's correct, Jesus was born in Bethlehem, but the distance between Bethlehem and Jerusalem is only 6 kilometres. Rome is much further away than that.

[@patriciajohnson1894]

Yep and you are still protesting... we're not forcing you to become Catholic by any means. You can stay in your lane ❤

[@weedsmokinhippy]

Nah! God's my rescuer .don't need sacraments

[@franklinhidalgo3683]

ask yourself: where did I learn that? and you probably answer because the Bible says so, and so who put together the Bible? why these books and not those? and how do they know how to do that? and where does that authority comes from? ... lots of thinking brother

[@atrifle8364]

The sacraments are God rescuing you. This is like that old joke about God sending rowboats and helicopters to a flood victim who drowned waiting for God to rescue him.

[@Call_Upon_YAH]

They with ears to hear, let them hear: Through the Holy Spirit, God has put it on me to preach to those lost in the devil's deceit! Hear me when I say, ye that are Catholic have been deceived and know not God. Ye worship Mary, praying to her; when God tells his to worship none other than him. It is idolatry. Catholicism has its own Bible and teachings, which are blasphemous to the word of God: the Holy Bible. As ye follow the teachings of man and not God; ye hear the pope, but not Jesus, yet ye claim to be his disciples! These are but a few things I named ye dwell within; there are many more. I tell you now to repent of your sins, accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior, and you'll receive the gift of the Holy Spirit upon asking the Father! There are *NO* sub-divisions of Christianity. You're either a disciple of Christ or not. A Christian is someone who follows God's word, not a religion. Who obey the Father and follow his will; not man's nor their own heart's. Unless you keep Jesus' commandments, think not the Holy Spirit will dwell within you! They who heed this message and did what was stated with an open heart to God... Read the Holy Bible (KJV) daily and every time before you read, pray to the Father and ask: "Lord I ask that you give me understanding of your word, that I interpret it the way you want me to, and none of my own. I ask you in Jesus' name, amen." Revelation 22:8-9 KJV 8 And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things. 9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship God. Acts 2:38 KJV 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Luke 11:13 KJV 13 If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children: how much more shall your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to them that ask him? John 14:21-24 KJV 21 *He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.* 22 Judas saith unto him, not Iscariot, Lord, how is it that thou wilt manifest thyself unto us, and not unto the world? 23 Jesus answered and said unto him, *If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.* 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and *the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.* 3 John 1:11 KJV 11 Beloved, follow not that which is evil, but that which is good. *He that doeth good is of God: but he that doeth evil hath not seen God.* 1 John 3:6-10 KJV 6 *Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.* 7 Little children, let no man deceive you: *he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.* 8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. 9 *Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.* 10 *In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God,* neither he that loveth not his brother.

[@franklinhidalgo3683]

@@Call_Upon_YAH lots of words, very little or none of it yours or actually the product of serious research... just a regurgitation of ideas that are not older than 200 years old... don't be lazy, do your own research.

[@patquint3291]

@@Call_Upon_YAH Those outside the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church Jesus founded sure are wordy. Quite honestly you just wasted a lot of your time. Most well informed, devoted Catholics just skip over cut and paste stuff from antiCatholics. Oh hum, dude. I’m Catholic for 30 years and grow more in love with Jesus, the one and only Redeemer, and His mother every day!