Cellular Connectivity and Performance (which hotspot is best?)

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Doug Johnson Productions

Doug Johnson Productions

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@DivineLightProductions
@DivineLightProductions 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience, Doug! This is super helpful. I’ve tried to get off-brand / low quality / budget-friendly sim router/modem combos. It was HORRIBLY inconsistent. This Mofi (4500 sim 8) is probably what I’ll get with my t-mobile mobile internet data plan in the central Arizona area. Hope it works!
@Hannilux
@Hannilux 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing the speed tests, no surprise I guess since it uses multiple dedicated antennas. Love the channel, keep it up!
@micahwagoner6114
@micahwagoner6114 4 жыл бұрын
That thumbnail is the best
@joaquinmatus
@joaquinmatus 4 жыл бұрын
I recently bought a MoFi and have had trouble getting good speeds in my area with the data only plan directly from my carrier. I bought some sims from UnlimitedIRL and they have been extremely good. Not sure if it’s just my area but I see a extremely large improvement with the UnlimitedIRL sims.
@marcog612
@marcog612 4 жыл бұрын
Great channel! Awesome work. Thanks Doug.
@jeffb8824
@jeffb8824 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and presentation style! Do you still recommend the Mofi Network for mobile livestreaming (for zoom)? Are there better options in 2022? Also, what earset mic are you using? It sounds great! Thanks again!
@heavenwayrecordingmedia4356
@heavenwayrecordingmedia4356 4 жыл бұрын
Doug! 😍👍😎 pretty awesome 👏 like all the work you do guys ! Congratulations 🍾🎉🎊🎈! So the mofi it’s getting the signal from my phone 📱 SIM card? Or is has to be a regular one with service just for the mofi 😜 thank you in advance. In watching you all the time from Mexico 🇲🇽 love you’re videos . Thank you
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
Phone SIMs work just fine.
@shockwaveaudioproductionsl4976
@shockwaveaudioproductionsl4976 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Doug. Forgive my ignorance, but the MOFI seems to be a hotspot on steroids with better connectivity features. My instinct is to immediately turn in my Verizon hotspot and get the MOFI. Just out of curiosity, what type of data plans are you purchasing from the cellular carriers? I imagine pricing could get quite expensive for data usage during streaming.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
It depends. With the carriers I’m less likely to use I’ll usually go with a prepaid. But with my primary T-Mobile account it’s just another phone line, since it’s easier to get large data allocations with those than tablet plans
@sonicsound84
@sonicsound84 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic information! Im also interested in how much data is used at what upload resolutions and how much it costs to livestream. is there a commercial or pay as you go plan for cellular providers?
@LuiKast
@LuiKast 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Have you tested the Teradek Nodes? That might be a good solution for one man gigs on the go with the Vidiu Go.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
No. The USB modems I have literally cost just 15% of what the Nodes do, and perform the exact same function.
@LuiKast
@LuiKast 4 жыл бұрын
Doug Johnson Productions I thought the same but the Nodes have better antennas, SMA-Connectors and diversity - that can result in a huge performance difference as you have seen with your MoFi.
@gedzorz
@gedzorz 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug! Quick question if you have the time. It seems like both the ability to lock in a band, and the ability to do carrier aggregation are big benefits to the Mofi (which I just bought through your link). However, those two things are mutually exclusive. In your experience, is "Auto" the way to go for selecting bands so you can take advantage of the aggregation? Mofi seems to indicate that testing and selecting a single band is optimal. I've been getting some mixed results. I'm on the Rogers network in Canada.. if that makes any difference. Thanks!
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
If you engage the Band Lock, aggregation is disabled. So yeah, leave it on Auto. They recommend selecting a single band IF you find that it gives you the most consistent performance. Cellular devices can switch bands on you unexpectedly if they aren't locked. So test it both ways and see what gives you the best connection.
@dominicjames1329
@dominicjames1329 2 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks. Btw, do you have to manually adjust between radio bands from the device? How do you know what band is the best?
@djp_video
@djp_video 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't required; it will automatically switch between them by default based on mostly on which has the strongest signal. Your chance of having consistently higher bandwidth is better if you do set the selected band manually though. And the only way to do it is to manually go through the bands one at a time, lock the radio to each of them, and run some tests. It's time consuming.
@TerranceFriday
@TerranceFriday Жыл бұрын
Hey Doug, your referral link takes me to the Mofi Sim 7. Is that what you've upgraded to? Do you recommend it over the Sim 4, even with out aggregation?
@djp_video
@djp_video Жыл бұрын
No. MoFi must have changed their site. I'm presently using the MoFi 5500 with 5G and have retired my 4500.
@KheetahCheetah
@KheetahCheetah 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Doug, this video was very useful, thanks. I wonder if you could walk through how to use AESEBU audio out of an ATEM and mixer, then using those 4 lines to record as an MP4 (in a hyperdeck). Think of it like audio with vocals/secondary, music/playback, audience/cameras, and Lead/Host all as 4 independent channels.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
Both the ATEM switchers and AES/EBU only support two channels of audio. If you want to record multiple audio sources, you'll need a mixer which supports multi-channel recording.
@KheetahCheetah
@KheetahCheetah 4 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video According to Blackmagic, each cable supports 2 channels of AES/EBU. An example is there "Mini Converter SDI to Audio" converter supports 6 channels of AES/EBU with only 4 TRS ports. THis is why I'm confused about AES in general. I've never seen a legit method to use the 2 channels per cable in a recording.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, yes, the Mini Converters will handle more channels than the switchers will. SDI video carries 16 channels of audio. And even though SDI has 16 audio channels, the ATEM switchers ignore everything but the first two. AES/EBU is digital, and each AES/EBU stream carries two channels of audio -- so you get two channels with a single cable. But it means that any device you attempt to connect also has to support AES/EBU, which isn't that common in low-end to midrange equipment. And I haven't seen any inexpensive AES/EBU Analog converters. The cheapest I'm familiar with is the Behringer SRC2496 which converts two channels in each direction. In the case of the Blackmagic Design Audio-to-SDI embedder, it can insert up to 8 channels of audio into the video signal if the source for those channels is AES/EBU. In the case of analog audio, these converters will embed up to four channels. (The SDI-to-Audio operates similarly, but in reverse.) The Audio-to-SDI lets you select which of those channels receive the audio from the converter's TRS inputs, in groups of 4 or 8 depending on whether your source is analog or AES/EBU. So you could embed on to channels 1-4 or 5-8 or 9-12 or 13-16 (analog) or 1-8 or 9-16 (AES/EBU). The SDI-to-Audio converter lets you select from these same groups as well. If you need to embed more channels than one converter can handle, you can add a second (or third or fourth). But at that point I'd consider looking into other solutions. The Dante-based system I'm using can handle many, many channels over a single Ethernet connection, for example, and is more robust. If you do happen to need more than 4 (analog) or 8 (AES/EBU) and use multiple embedders, make sure any audio sources which are sensitive to phase differences (a stereo source, for example) are going through the same embedder. Because the ATEM switchers only support two channels of audio, even if that's what you're using you'd still need to deembed the audio to go to a separate mixer if you need more than two channels over a single SDI connection.
@KheetahCheetah
@KheetahCheetah 4 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video Thanks for the response. it does seem complex to go AES route - especially if I'm combining from an audio mixer merging with ATEM - they would have a slight delay difference also. hrmm. Dante or MAGI seems to make more sense. One thing I recall when recording from my hyperdeck pro is that all 16 channels of audio are included on a recording but I didn't check if the muted channels were actually recorded as well - but set to mute or not... Anyway, I appreciate the detailed response.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
The HyperDeck Studio Mini lets you choose how many audio channels to record. The other models always record all 16 channels.
@Assassin4567a
@Assassin4567a 4 жыл бұрын
For your tests with the mofi, were you using the included antennas or the large external ones mounted on your trailer? It would be great to have comparison speeds with and without the large external antennas.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
I used the external antennas on the MoFi, specifically because that is one of the advantages that you get with that product. The others were tested inside the trailer, which has a cellular repeater so the performance differences between a device being inside and outside aren't that great (I did check it; the differences were subtle.)
@MANUELHSTUMP
@MANUELHSTUMP 4 жыл бұрын
The best option I use is a LiveU solo with 4 bonding cellular devices that guarantees excellent connectivity and reliable audio & video transmission.
@RobertMacCready
@RobertMacCready 2 жыл бұрын
New to streaming. Am looking for a setup that's mobile/outdoors. I have an unlimited voice, text, and data plan with Verizon. My 1st attempt was just using my Motorola Moto G 2021 stylus and that worked just ok. Video was, at times blurry. So, what setup would you suggest without breaking the bank? And I've liked and sub'd to your channel.
@djp_video
@djp_video 2 жыл бұрын
If you aren’t getting enough bandwidth with a single cellular connection you might need to bond multiple connections using a device with that capability like the Teradek VidiU X/Go or LiveU Solo series. I have a video here on the channel where I bond 7 connections with my VidiU Go. While 7 is a little excessive, you can watch that to get an idea of what bonding looks like.
@RobertMacCready
@RobertMacCready 2 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video Thanks! I'm still learning but eager to crack this setup and software. I'm fascinated by live/remote streaming. Will surely watch your other video.
@gedzorz
@gedzorz 3 жыл бұрын
I've recently been having a random (and stressful) caching issue when using my Mofi with any Atem Mini product. The Atem cache will suddenly start filling up despite having an extremely fast connection. It's almost as if the Mofi suddenly throttles the Atem, but not the computer on the same network. I've had the issue with 2 separate cell carriers. At first a factory default reset seemed to fix it, but it's randomly occurring again. I tried contacting Mofi Networks, but they were no help. Have you come across this issue, Doug? Thanks again for all your great advice.
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen that behavior. And I've streamed video for hours using mine.
@gedzorz
@gedzorz 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video Ugh such a frustrating issue. It works perfectly when I do a test stream, and then sure enough it starts caching right before an event starts. I feel like I can't trust it now. Thanks again. I appreciate you taking the time to reply.
@HablemosdeEso
@HablemosdeEso 4 жыл бұрын
Doug, Thank you for the video, question: Which model do you recommend MOFI4500-4GXeLTE-SIM7 or MOFI4500-4GXeLTE-SIM4 or can you explain me the differences between it? I understand we loose a little bandwidth but we are cover with the 600Mhz band in the sim7 model.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
SIM7 adds 600MHz support but loses carrier aggregation.
@philpritchard5173
@philpritchard5173 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video HI Doug..this is super helpful video thx. Just weighing up the Go vs the X vs the Solo...and the MOFI looks like a must. The link above goes to the SIM7 (prob Amazon changed their link). You seem to be recommending the SIM4 ..I assume because of the aggregation?
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
@@philpritchard5173 The two models are similar... the difference is that the SIM7 is better equipped for Verizon here in the USA. If you aren't using Verizon the SIM4 is the way to go.
@philpritchard5173
@philpritchard5173 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video Awesome. Thx mate.
@philpritchard5173
@philpritchard5173 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video Thanks Doug. Can the Vidiu Go be used just for it's cellular bonding capability (i.e. without the encoding)? I have the the Atem mini pro which can do the switching and encodingI I just want a really good and reliable internet connection OUT, esp when I relying on cellular signals only in remote locations with no wifi or ethernet connection?
@stephenwensley9328
@stephenwensley9328 4 жыл бұрын
Do you have Carrier aggregation allowing upload on more than one band then? Here in the UK CA is really for improving download speeds and there is only ever one upload channel (at least in current configurations). So in streaming CA doesn't make much difference here. Locking the band is a much better option, as choosing antenna options for the specific bands you intend using. e.g. I'm just switching from Omni antenna with a peak gain of 4db that supported MIMO, to a Band 3 specific SISO antenna with a peak gain of 15db as Band 3 is the dominant band at all 15 locations I'll be streaming from. It has just arrived and hoping to test it today. This was the discussion that led me to switch antenna if anyone is interested: www.ispreview.co.uk/talk/threads/whats-the-best-omni-antenna-for-band-3.36513/
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
The Carrier Aggregation only works for downloads. But the MoFi is much better for uploads than any other device I tried, by a pretty wide margin.
@x.Jay.Bird.x
@x.Jay.Bird.x 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thanks for the info. :)
@mshrabel
@mshrabel Жыл бұрын
Are you still using the Mofi unit? I have to make a decision for my organization's need to do remote location productions.
@djp_video
@djp_video Жыл бұрын
I've since upgraded to the MoFi 5500 so I can take advantage of 5G.
@welshmountain1330
@welshmountain1330 3 жыл бұрын
I am new to all of this and have been placed in charge of camera/laptop to host live workshops with live and online guests. What would you recommend for use with a camera such as Lifesize for a Lifesize meeting?
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
Do you mean in terms of software? Or connectivity? Can you clarify a little bit for me?
@welshmountain1330
@welshmountain1330 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video I would like to know the signal strength recommended for wireless hotspot.
@akmediaproductions
@akmediaproductions 2 жыл бұрын
Please do a refresh of this video with 5G LTE Routers 😊
@djp_video
@djp_video 2 жыл бұрын
I don't have any 5G routers yet, but when I do I will.
@brian2k1
@brian2k1 2 жыл бұрын
What plans do you use for the mobile router? hotspot plan from att or verizon or something specific for streaming or backup use only
@djp_video
@djp_video 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using Google Fi with it mostly. I try to use it just as a backup, but sometimes Internet connectivity at a venue is so bad or so expensive that we have to rely on cellular as our primary means of connection.
@brian2k1
@brian2k1 2 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video I always thought that was google fiber! did not know until now it was mobile service, thanks! Are there any mobile data only plans that you know about?
@newsfan77
@newsfan77 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't having two carriers and cellular bonding on the Teradek be a faster and better option?
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
If you're willing to pay for a bonding service and multiple cellular accounts, sure. The MoFi solution doesn't require either.
@mukisa231
@mukisa231 4 жыл бұрын
Are the teradek VidiU nodes factory unlocked to allow use of different cellular SIMs? If so, are there any settings that I need to change in order for the teradek to identify the SIM other than the telna sims provided?
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
They are unlocked, and they adapt automatically to whatever SIM you insert as long as the particular model of Node that you get is compatible with the cellular network in your area. There are regional variations of the different Node models.
@mukisa231
@mukisa231 4 жыл бұрын
Doug Johnson Productions maybe I was inserting the AT&T sim the wrong way. What is the exact orientation because I tried and still could not get the bars of signal.
@TomMedia20
@TomMedia20 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug, can I connect the Vidiu Go with Mofi using USB cable?
@djp_video
@djp_video 2 жыл бұрын
Not directly. But some USB-to-Ethernet adapters work. I've had good luck with the Linksys USB300M.
@fkmobile1
@fkmobile1 3 жыл бұрын
Any recommendations for portable bonded internet usage and streaming (Vidiu is more for streaming)?
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
I've never researched options for that.
@MrKricher
@MrKricher 4 жыл бұрын
Doug, I found the radio performance chart very confusing. Wouldn't a bar chart show the information better? At first I thought I was looking at performance over time with the lines between data points.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
A line chart probably wasn't the best choice. But I couldn't figure out how to do two separate axes for transfer speed and milliseconds with the bar chart.
@zeno.heilmaier
@zeno.heilmaier 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of contract do you have with your carrier(s)?
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
In my area T-Mobile has the best overall coverage and lowest rates of the big three. So I maintain several data lines (same as you'd get with a tablet like an iPad) for streaming needs. For those occasions where T-Mo doesn't have adequate coverage at a particular venue, or if I want to have some carrier diversity I'll use a prepaid AT&T SIM. (I've used both Phone SIMs and hotspot SIMs and they both work just fine.)
@knightwalkr
@knightwalkr 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video do you need a plan with hotspot or will it just work off the data of a normal plan.
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
@@knightwalkr If you use the VidiU app you don't need hotspot data.
@knightwalkr
@knightwalkr 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video I live out in the middle of no where with no high speed internet and I’m looking at options to use a data plan. Just cat cable to the computer and use the data off the plan if possible.
@ErikWildemanFilms
@ErikWildemanFilms 4 жыл бұрын
A kind of related, but not really. If I do a speedtest on my laptop (16" macbook pro) via a wired router it gives me 90 down and 50 up. Once I let my VidiUPro do the speedtest via the same router it suddenly gives me 7-8 mbps. I've used multiple different CAT 6&7 cables and different inputs on the router. What is happening there? Is the problem with Vidiu? Are the speedtests not honest? It is really difficult to understand
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
VidiU's speed tests have always been all over the place. I don't trust the results.
@ErikWildemanFilms
@ErikWildemanFilms 4 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video So I should trust my speedtest? Because KZbin a lot of the times says that there is a problem with the upload speed, allthough I don't notice it watching my livestreams afterwards. If I click it away it takes a while before KZbin once again complaints.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
Of the speed test tools available, the one I trust the most (by far) is dslreports.com. Speedtest.net would be my second choice, but a lot of ISPs cheat with that one (prioritizing speed test data over everything else so the numbers are artificially high). KZbin's algorithm isn't very smart. If you have a static graphic on screen, for example, it doesn't take anywhere near as much data to encode that for live streaming because nothing is changing on screen, so most encoders will drop the bitrate way down. KZbin then complains that it isn't getting enough data. But in that particular case, more data wouldn't produce a better quality picture. Take everything that KZbin says about the quality of the stream with a grain of salt.
@easterlingderek34
@easterlingderek34 4 жыл бұрын
You don't think it could be a QOS issue do you?
@senorlopezphotovideo2720
@senorlopezphotovideo2720 Жыл бұрын
how can you power it if you don't have AC power, like in a cemetery to open area.. thanks
@djp_video
@djp_video Жыл бұрын
It takes a 12V power source, so a 12V battery could be used to power it for quite a long time.
@senorlopezphotovideo2720
@senorlopezphotovideo2720 Жыл бұрын
@@djp_video can you send me a pic of such a battery. can a V-mount battery be upset with a D-tap
@rogersoutdoorproductions3364
@rogersoutdoorproductions3364 4 жыл бұрын
Are you saying i can use my cell phone simm card in these devices? I have a grandfathered unlimited data plan.
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@jeffhollingsworth401
@jeffhollingsworth401 4 жыл бұрын
Can I take a ethernet port out to a POE switch to control PTZ cameras and Atem studio Tv?
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
Do you mean to control them remotely over a cellular connection? With a VPN, yeah, it should be possible. But I don't know that I'd want to do that considering the high latency and still needing a solution for transferring video.
@jonathancastronotthatcastr242
@jonathancastronotthatcastr242 3 жыл бұрын
What sim cards do you use on the MOFI?
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
I have accounts with several cellular providers, and switch out the cards based on who has the best coverage at any given location.
@Kraftedmemories
@Kraftedmemories 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video Do you know if you can use the liveusolo with the mofi?
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
The MoFi is just an Internet connection, so yes, it would work.
@BrennanBaer
@BrennanBaer 3 жыл бұрын
@@Kraftedmemories Did you end up going this route?
@MADSKILLSDESIGNZ
@MADSKILLSDESIGNZ 4 жыл бұрын
Have you ever used liveU?
@djp_video
@djp_video 4 жыл бұрын
On projects for other companies a few times. I’ve never owned one of my own
@aloveoutreach
@aloveoutreach 2 жыл бұрын
If I want to walk down the street, or in a park for example, and live stream. How do I do this? What do I need? Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!
@Douglas_Gillette
@Douglas_Gillette 5 ай бұрын
Cellular bonding is a solution. Liveu, Dejero, or AVIWEST/HAIVISION are some options.
@richc.3100
@richc.3100 Ай бұрын
Pro tip: don’t remove antennas from transmitters while they are powered.
@WillAdamsPro.com1
@WillAdamsPro.com1 3 жыл бұрын
what is your opinion on Starlink once it is not geo-locked?
@djp_video
@djp_video 3 жыл бұрын
If the speeds can be maintained it could be a great option for Internet access on the go. One thing that the media hasn't really communicated very clearly is that bandwidth is shared among users in a geographical region. So the more users you have in view of a satellite, the slower their connection is going to be. This potentially means it might become unsuitable for densely populated areas if they get very many customers. Starlink has been designed to primarily provide service in areas where other options aren't available. As such, performance could potentially not be viable in metropolitan areas if too many city-dwellers sign up. For areas away from cities, it's likely to be the best option.
@WillAdamsPro.com1
@WillAdamsPro.com1 3 жыл бұрын
@@djp_video ok thanks! Seems like lte would be the way to go for now at least
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