Chaos Knights Are The Best Army In 40K

Considering that Chaos Knights will soon be receiving reinforcements, we thought it was time for a brief rant on the subject. This video was meant to be about three minutes long, then this happened.
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[@vista4043]

Been about 2 minutes and I'm sold. I've been playing Warhammer since 2019 and I still have yet to finish my Ork army... so much green flesh....

[@WarpsongGames]

I can empathise with you there, I’ve got a very large stack of cultists (100+) that have just sat on the shelf for years now. Horde armies are time consuming but they do look impressive when (or more likely IF) they’re finished.

[@NA-zs4xi]

"Will it get us to 1k points faster than swaths of infantry" Good lord yes oh lord yes, holy shit two kits and I'm at 1k

[@WarpsongGames]

Yep! That’s why knights are the way to go when you’re just sick of the sight of infantry sized models.

[@BR4IN1N4J4R]

I painted my Knights up so they can be either Chaos or Loyalists so I have options

[@WarpsongGames]

That seems like a good idea for games, as you can play whatever side you fancy at the time. Although, it becomes a little more awkward if you cover your Knights in spikes, skulls and chaos stars as we have though!

[@BR4IN1N4J4R]

I skip the spikes (used Loyalist kits) and instead painted them somewhat generically. If my opponent questions how they're Chaos, I just tell them they recently turned and they haven't been twisted by the Gods yet

[@ImposCoE]

I never gave knights much thought at all, but I really want to give them a go with the new ones Chaos is getting! What do you recommend I buy as my very first ever knight?

[@WarpsongGames]

Personally, I just bought a stack of Armigers/War Dogs at first as they're less work to de-mould and paint. They're almost like mini practice Knights. As for first actual knight, if you don't feel like converting one of the loyalist Knights then the improved new rules for the Knight Desecrator's laser destructor are pretty impressive if you want ranged firepower.

[@invadervim9037]

I'm play pure loyalist knights, and warpsong is right. The new chaos knight itself is really cool, and it has all the spikey bits you need already. That being said, the cool thing about knights is they're all basically in one box. The one knight box can be built into either a gallant, crusader, paladin, errant or warden. Besides that you got the Castellon box that can also be built into a valiant, but don't start with those. Armigers are great, but for me they really just fill out points when I don't have enough for a while knight.

[@Bossking-gb8ls]

It really comes down to what you like about the knight, it’s no fun if your building something you don’t like. (My first knight was a Despoiler)

[@recreant359]

I got a castellan first cause it’s awesome

[@WarpsongGames]

@@recreant359 MOAR GUNZZZ! I could not agree more, Castellans are ace.

[@bukharajones]

I have painted about 50 or more black templates this year. Other than running them through a sand box or smearing then bases with Vallejo, they’re done. Nonetheless, it’s a never ending project. I bought two boxes of chaos knights and some Armigers. I can already visualize the end. It’s glorious.

[@WarpsongGames]

I like big infantry armies, but whenever I try to paint mine, I always end up overlooking some minor detail on a few of them, then you have to repeat steps to get everyone to the same stage. I've got about 40 primaris Hawk Lords on my shelf, de moulded, sprayed and half painted, but I practically get anxiety just looking at them! One day they'll get done, I tell myself! Nice one getting 50 Black Templars finished, that's a tricky colour scheme balancing black and white like that.

[@Matt-md5yt]

I love the army you made my friend and keep on being awesome

[@WarpsongGames]

Thanks, we never stop making new things, we've got so many projects on the go currently. Hopefully you'll get to see them when we actually speed up our release schedule!

[@BlazeMedia132]

Hope you continue to stick around in the hobby zone! Found your vids today and after just a few vids, I slapped that sub button.

[@WarpsongGames]

Don’t worry we’ve been doing this hobby for about 20 years or so now so there's no getting away from Games Workshops clutches (especially with the promise of shiny new Chaos Knights and a new Chaos Codex on the cards). I’m glad you enjoyed our content and thanks for subscribing :) We’ve got a fair few larger projects in the process of being edited and were experimenting with faster videos like this - as our main goal is to finally improve our upload rate!

[@Phoenixillusion18]

Chaos Knights are an extremely fun painting project. I mainly focused on Age of Sigmar but got one of these bad boys a few months back just for the fun and damn was it refreshing and fun to paint. Now with the new Army box that includes the codex and 1.2 k worth of models .... guess who is trying to learn to play 40 k now.

[@Therealblacktux]

Just noticed the Kytan in the background, I loved building and painting mine! Can’t wait to see what you do with it!

[@WarpsongGames]

Unlike all of my unfinished Knights, the Kytan is 100% de moulded, but I still need to convert a base for it. I did plan on making the base, building it and painting it in one video - but those videos take about a month to make, and the algorithm isn't interested unless you're doing at least one video a week. So, what we're going to do instead is break it down into steps, do the base in one short video, then build/pose it, then paint it in the last video. Also, if you're wandering where we've been for the last few months, the short answer is, we were buried by MOUNTAINS of editing! There's five projects on my hard drive, all of them at about 50-80% complete, and they're all 20 minute - half hour episodes. Plus there's that one which is like an hour long. We'll gradually release these videos when I can muster the effort to edit them, but I think we're going to try to make shorter videos, and see if we can game the algorithm.

[@Therealblacktux]

@@WarpsongGames have you considered offloading the editing?

[@WarpsongGames]

Why, are you volunteering? I think I would have to sell a kidney to pay anyone enough to edit that mountain! The main cause of the problem was me filming too damn' much, trying to get things perfect, shooting everything from multiple angles where most people would be like 'dude, it's youtube, just film it once'. What adds a day onto shooting, adds WEEKS on in editing. We've gotten a lot more efficient with filming now, though - we wrote, filmed and edited a video in two days this week, so that frees up my weekend for getting some squads painted.

[@Therealblacktux]

@@WarpsongGames ive tried doing some painting videos in the past and i feel your pain when it comes to editing. when you get to a point where you are able to offload some of the editing work i'd love to have a crack at it!

[@WarpsongGames]

@@Therealblacktux Painting guide editing is a walk in the park compared to editing green stuff footage. That stuff will make your eyeballs boil out of your skull after about half an hour. Thanks for the offer, I'll keep it in mind!

[@tommytubbytummy3]

I've been running my knights as renegades with graffiti and street art all over them

[@WarpsongGames]

That sounds like a pretty interesting way of painting them up. I suppose you’ve got plenty of room for custom designs considering how large Knights are.

[@stevenray8737]

Bang on the money. They are also excellent hostiles if one is playing 40K solo.

[@WinnieOfTheNorth]

I'd love to start a wardog force for my renegade night lords warband, but don't feel like paying 120 pound for the new chaos knight kit a d can't find the old wardog kit under the chaos knight section on games workshop. Does the loyalist kit have the same bits as the old chaos kits?

[@WarpsongGames]

That's how I use my Wardogs, I use them as heavy support for the sub- 500 point forces I've got for both world eaters and flawless host. They don't get buffed by the HQ choices of CSM's, but being able to move 14'' and snipe multi wound primaris guys form 60'' away seems well worth the trade-off. There isn't actually an old wardog kit, they've only sold loyalist armigers up until now. We converted our four wardogs of Khorne by stealing armour plates from a couple of Forgefiends (which I'm starting to regret abit, as Forgefiends are absolutely deadly in the new codex). Check out our wardog kitbash video if you want to see how we converted our own wardogs. We're going to make a Chaos Knight house dedicated to khorne, and another chaos knight house decicated to Slaanesh, so there's plently of content like this lined up for the next weeks and months!

[@WinnieOfTheNorth]

@@WarpsongGames awesome, Can't wait to see it!

[@cesarling]

your videos and editing are pretty good you should upload more also yea chaos is cool

[@WarpsongGames]

Yes, we should (and intended to) release videos more regularly. That's why we're experimenting with new formats like this video here. I'm glad you like our current content though, Thanks!

[@cesarling]

@@WarpsongGamesyea this is some pretty pog content

[@elixdream4254]

i was looking around to see what could be my first army... and i think the caos knights might be a perfect choice

[@WarpsongGames]

I’m glad we could help you chose an army! :) Starting a new army is always a tricky decision to make, because when you’ve already bought the models you can’t really back out with out starting up a “pile of shame”.

[@bodhiperera]

Those noise marines tho 😳💢💥💯💀

[@WarpsongGames]

I'm glad you like them, the conversion video is filmed, so we will release it at some point soon. Editing footage of green stuff work is mind numbingly tedious, so you'll get a couple of painting guides first.

[@easchole9410]

Ngl the low model count is the main reason I chose chaos knights

[@Emidretrauqe]

Painter guys rise up!

[@WarpsongGames]

Yes, this! Our warcry shall be 'we'll get it painted, one day...'.

[@grotwurksmekshop6607]

Whelp, this earned my subscription.

[@sunbreakerqueenofbronze621]

I just finished my first chaos knight today! I used all the extra helmets that came with the set, and I put them on as trophies on the knight.

[@princesseponyboy1971]

Careful, you’re tempting me…

[@WarpsongGames]

Don't blame me blame Games Workshop! They're the true Ruinous Powers - at least where our wallets are concerned anyway. We're definitely going to have to get the new kits and there's also the teaser for a new Chaos codex later in the year too. So no doubt some more shinny kits and at least another codex to pick up ASAP.

[@stevenkirton6373]

I'm literally starting emperors children and the opening fucked me up

[@WarpsongGames]

I'm glad people seem to like the Sonic Blasters! Definitely gotta edit that video now. I came up with a wicked blast master conversion as well, that would be relatively easy to produce in small numbers. I wanted to experiment with an ALL BLASTMASTER Havoc squad, although that might be too heretical...

[@salv.6948]

Are your pale pink/purple Chaos Marines from the Flawless Host btw???

[@WarpsongGames]

Indeed they are. We’ve just about to release the much requested Painting Guide for the Flawless Host next week if your interested in how they were painted. As well as that we have a few more Slaaneshi themed videos planned for the future.

[@Therealblacktux]

YES! THE LAD IS BACK

[@WarpsongGames]

Yes! We're back with a vengeance, only to vanish again without a trace for months at a time! Actually though we're preparing another video at this very moment, so hopefully there'll be more content soon.

[@Bossking-gb8ls]

The fact is that chaos knights aren’t good for competition but as we approach the new knight codex may bring to a standard considerable for competition, Very exited

[@WarpsongGames]

I remember going into games workshop and pretty much being told the same thing by the staff members, they said that they weren't as competitive as an army on their own, but instead should be used as a supporting detachment for CSM's.

[@DeanxPeaceMaker]

The warmaster returns

[@WarpsongGames]

Yes! And just like in the stories, I shall rise up and defeat the Imperium in the glorious name of Chaos! ...I'm only half way through the Horus Heresy series though, but I imagine that's what's going to happen, right? - NO SPOILERS! ;)

[@MrRipchop]

You don't have to worry about timing out at events either!

[@WarpsongGames]

I remember playing big Apocalypse games, when they first introduced plastic baneblade kits. I must have had 3500 points of death guard turned to DUST by like, turn 4, and there was only superheavies fighting eachother at the end of the game. I expect knights to pretty much do exactly the same thing, when I've got enough of them!

[@mattellis6040]

Chaos knights ! You mean the army made up of 3 miniatures lol wow so creative GW

[@senorsuave]

There's some "cinematic" rules that buff space marines to book-levels of overpowered. Running at most a squad in a 2k game. Pretty fun! Also, primaris EC is a sin, and not the good kind!

[@WarpsongGames]

Where might I find these amazing rules? I certainly didn't see anything that kinky in the codex! He was actually the first primaris guy that I bought, they were in a set of three intercessors. I fully intended for them to join my hawk lords, but then, you know. Tentacles happened.

[@senorsuave]

@@WarpsongGames tentacles do be like that. "40k Movie Marines" were released way back in white dwarf 300, but some folks gave them updated statlines for 8th edition. More recently I've seen a 9th edition version on BoLS that basically uses Space Marine characters outside of force org rules make a single, pseudo-tactical squad.

[@shmexy1787]

Or you could just like, I don't know, play before you painted all your model. Though chaos knights are really cool

[@WarpsongGames]

We have some utterly MAD 40k gaming superstitions, whenever we've played with unpainted or partially painted models, they have always done incredibly poorly in game. I can't explain it. I'm a man of logic and science, but the moment the dice start rolling, all conventional logic goes out of the window. This topic deserves it's own short video!

[@shmexy1787]

@@WarpsongGames That makes sense

[@everettluther9103]

Sly Marbo.