Charles Asks Permission To Wed Camilla | The Crown (Dominic West, Imelda Staunton)

[@MovingPicsOfficial]

So you think Camilla and Charles should’ve just been married originally?

[@bricktam]

100% Yes. And while the Royal Family didn't like the match, there was nothing legally stopping them from doing so. When they got together, they didn't think it would be serious, Camilla knew her own great grandmother was mistress to Charles great great grandfather and also knew she herself wouldn't be fit as a Queen Consort. Charles also knew there was immense on him to find a more suitable bride, so they parted ways and only realized how deeply they felt for each other when it was too late.

[@vrrr.j]

Yes. At least he asked permission and not elope 🤷🏻‍♀️

[@amiedavis5257]

At least Diana would still be alive and probably happy.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@vrrr.j Royal Marriages Act. He had to ask permission

[@darth_kulyok]

Would've been better than professor Umbridge's marriage to Doctor Who, surely.

[@EmiliusReturns]

Charles: “I came to make a request I should have made 30 years ago.” Elizabeth: “oh fuck not this again…”

[@MJ-qb5ph]

Totally - I agree with everything she says TBH - he’s absurd

[@christhody7112]

😂

[@CatherineJackson-s9f]

Lol

[@DVPerry220]

@@EmiliusReturns 😆🤣😆😛

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

Maybe, what Charles was saying was " The average man would have filed for divorce and not have to consult his parents." But the queen had to see that Charles was at the end of his rope with this SHREW "wife"... Not everything can be blamed on Camilla and Charles infidelity or Diana's youth. She took all her married boyfriends back to Kensington Palace and I feel bad for their innocent wives and children and they should have gone on Oprah instead of Harry and Me-gain... Diana wouldn't have looked at Charles twice if he was a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker. Diana wanted a title and castles and balcony appearances and clothes and jewelry and vacations and notoriety and prestige and financial stability and handbags and respect and admiration and press coverage and should I go on? Diana was a horrible woman!!

[@mellyreedMR]

I'm sorry. But I admire the Queen for having the self-restraint not to slap Charles clear across the room for his twisted view of ethics and morality.

[@chairmanlemon]

hes literally in the right..? the way she acted was disgusting

[@jaynekranc8607]

They should have let him marry her originally instead of shipping him off to sea. A lot of people would have been a lot happier.

[@clare5one]

At least you know your history!

[@normadesmond6017]

he had some say in this. why didn"t he refuse and say he wanted Camilla or else he would walk away? Lets face it: he always has been a coward.

[@dailyqwikbytes]

And one would be a lot more alive. Although...some others wouldn't exist.

[@dailyqwikbytes]

@@normadesmond6017 Tampons gonna tampon.

[@jaynekranc8607]

@@normadesmond6017 That was in 1971! Don't you think it would be hard at that age to stand up to your mother the queen.

[@deniseg812]

I can't help thinking, if he were allowed to marry Camilla originally, Dianna would be alive.

[@KD-nk3ht]

Not necessarily. She was neurotic and unhinged. She may have overdosed or died in another car wreck.

[@deniseg812]

@@KD-nk3ht perhaps

[@lulupomegranate]

@@KD-nk3ht But most of it was due to her issues in her marriage and family she married into.

[@TheBrookelizabeth21]

She more than likely would be, but she also would be no one who we even knew. Her great acts of charity, the attention she brought to so many worthy causes, none of it would have happened. William and Harry wouldn’t have happened. Not to say that she deserved her ending, not in the least, but at least she did tremendous good with the life she had.

[@lulupomegranate]

@@TheBrookelizabeth21 Why do you think it wouldn't have happened?

[@lisaboyle72]

What Diana went through was heroic not Camilla

[@pinkosmondfan]

What about Diana was heroic?

[@MsJubjubbird]

She whinged to the media where her children could see it. Not heroic

[@Roz-y2d]

What Diana went through was disgraceful. Used and abused by the system, and when she has the courage to expose them she’s called mentally ill. She taught them a lesson they’ll never forget, I’m only sorry that she lost her life whilst doing it.

[@sweettea6706]

Amen!

[@antonyka-pra-ra]

diana was bat shit crazy

[@AgentClaytonWebb]

She blameless… oh okay lmao!

[@angusmckenzie9622]

There’s nothing heroic in self indulgence.

[@aidanwotherspoon905]

I wouldn’t consider marrying who you want “self indulgent” In the fiction of the show or in real life, it’s such a farce that we can’t do away with institutionalized nepotism and let a family conduct their own affairs privately and in accordance with the laws of the land

[@angusmckenzie9622]

@@aidanwotherspoon905 “I wouldn’t consider marrying who…”. With privilege comes responsibility. Enjoying privilege whilst eschewing responsibility is the height of self indulgence. That personality trait runs deep in that family and institution. I’m happy to stick with self indulgence.

[@aidanwotherspoon905]

@@angusmckenzie9622 so we’re in agreement about the monarchy being a bunch of malarkey we could do without. There are many things about the monarchy in general, and Charles in particular that I don’t like, but getting mad because he married who he wanted to marry? That’s a no from me, dawg. There’s literally no responsibility that I care about that’s compromised by marrying Camilla

[@jaimiesalid3141]

Charles...not so admirable, is he?

[@schutzenhaus]

It is a damn shame he didn’t marry Camilla to begin with. He got terrible advice from Lord Mountbatten about marrying a “sweet,” innocent young girl (do as your Uncle Dickie says, not as he did!) plus various assumptions about Camilla’s “suitability” to be Queen Consort. Camilla isn’t glamorous but she was and is far better for Charles than Diana was. Diana wasn’t at fault; it was a bad match.

[@KathleenMcNe]

@@schutzenhaus Charles lacked the intelligence and backbone to go with Camilla from the start.

[@ReaverLordTonus]

The problem with him initially wanting to marry Camilla (in the series) was that at the time she favored being his mistress while Andrew Parker Bowles was more appealing to her as a husband. Charles' persistent devotion to her is what drove her not to break off their relationship after she married. She may have come around to committing to him later, but marrying him at the beginning could have resulted in a scandal back then.

[@DVPerry220]

Is there any truth to what I read about Camilla having a live in boyfriend and that is why some people involved with The Crown decided that she was not suitable for a potential Queen?

[@DVPerry220]

She supposedly lived with a man before becoming involved with Charles and The Palace found out about her past.

[@theresageissler1270]

That's just the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth! Bravo!

[@startracker5895]

I wouldn’t exactly call Camilla heroic but okay! 🙈😂

[@sweettea6706]

The guilty NEVER readily admit it. They make excuses. Charles is a fine example.

[@j.dunlop8295]

Horsey face, is what Camilla was constantly called in the news, and yellow news!😅🐴

[@Theresav60]

A Tramp , Now wearing a Crown 👑

[@richardc8795]

@@Theresav60. A tramp?? Get real. No different than the rest of us. Can’t imagine what it would be like to not marry the person that you love, but have your wife chosen.

[@KathleenMcNe]

Camilla heroic? That's a hoot.

[@seaglass22]

Prince Charles was obliged to marry a 'Virgo Intacta'. Camilla was known to be a 'good-time girl', shall we say. It would have been impossible for Charles to marry her. Although they were totally ill-suited, Lady Diana Spencer was in many ways the ideal match. William escaped all that as he had been openly in a relationship with Catherine Middleton for so many years before they married.

[@MsJubjubbird]

He married in 2011. Social values were very different then. Mountbatten and the Queen Mother were dead too, so that heavily conservative influence was gone

[@livingincaptivityIII]

Interesting that there is no list of names for the supposed "good time girl", and yet there is for the "virgo intacta". Diana never lacked for...... company. Henry Herbert, 17th Earl of Pembroke 1983-1984 King Juan Carlos 1986/87 Charles Spencer Barry Mannake 1985 Will Carling 1994-1995 Oliver Hoare 1992-1994 Henry Herbert Bryan Adams 1996 David Waterhouse 1987-1992 Philip Dunne 1988 James Gilbey 1989 Tom Conti 1994 Teddy Frostman 1994-1995 Christopher Whalley1995-1997 Kevin Costner 1997 Patrick D'Arvor 1997 Gruru Lolrani 1997 JFK jr. 1995 Slobodan Živojinović 1987 James Hewitt 1986-1991 Hasnat Khan 1995-1997 Dodi Al Fayed 1997

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

​​​​@@livingincaptivityIII I enjoyed your posts but I'm not sure why you listed Charles Spencer since he is her younger brother. Hmmm. LoL 😂😊😊😊.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc The Lannisters and Targaryens did not invent it.

[@kittykatz4001]

Yeah, Camilla was a 🎅 Ho Ho Ho! Ran through! 😂

[@LookAtWow]

I'm going to say and I know some people will disagree. 1. Charles should've married Camilla to start with. Should have proposed all those years ago. If she said no, at least he would have had some sort of real closure and could have found someone else without dragging on this "one who got away" romance with Camilla. If she said yes, a lot of people would've been spared the hurt. Diana would not have ended up in the crosshairs. Diana would have matured before getting married at such a young age and got with someone who truly loved her. 2. Normally I love the casting of The Crown. I mean, the actresses who played Margaret and Elizabeth alone is unbelievable but I'm not buying this guy as Charles. He's a great actor, phenomenal really but he's no awkward Charles.

[@faithlesshound5621]

Thirty years earlier the British public were not mature enough to accept Charles and Camilla. We've had thirty more years of "doing our own thing" and watching our nearest and dearest do the same, whatever we felt about it. The billionaires who control our press and other media and tell us what to think would not have stood for it, whatever they get away with in their own lives.

[@gnostic268]

Camilla wanted to marry Andrew PB. So she did. Charles only wanted her after he came back home from the Navy. He had other mistresses along with Camilla but as Diana called her, she was a Rottweiler who sank her teeth into him and never let go regardless of their marriage vows. Now Charles has cancer and William will be King while Camilla toddles off into retirement. She will spend her old age alone with her memoriesof the lives she and Charles wrecked with their selfishness.

[@faithlesshound5621]

@@gnostic268 That's to see their lives through the lens of the respectable middle class of long ago. The upper classes are not like that now, and were not then. None of them live as the newspapers say we should: theirs readers don't, nor do their owners.

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

@@gnostic268 Nah, she'll be living a happy and well-off retirement with her happy memories of her time with Charles.

[@kathleenmurray3065]

If only Charles were like the strength that shows through in Dominic West in his role as Charles.

[@taotaostrong]

Domenic West is fantastic at playing horrible people. 😂

[@livingincaptivityIII]

Perhaps he is not acting.

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

Charles wasn't horrible 😞. He was however USED enormously by Diana for a title and castles and balcony appearances and clothes and jewelry and vacations and notoriety and prestige and financial stability and handbags and respect and admiration and press coverage and should I go on? Diana wouldn't have looked at Charles twice if he was a butcher or a baker or a candle stick maker. Not everything can be blamed on Camilla and Charles infidelity or Diana's youth. What a SHREW!!

[@kittykatz4001]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jcHey, Camilla! Over here on your “burner?” 😏

[@balabanasireti]

​@@kittykatz4001 Diana won't like you, kid 😂

[@Aramanth]

This was an interesting shift in the Royal Family as I believe Elizabeth was the last of her line to marry another royal. Margaret's husband's mother was a royal but by her second marriage. All of Elizabeth's children married commoners. (Not counting Diana, the daughter of an Earl.).

[@jasonkoch3182]

The daughter of an earl remains a commoner. Only the titled person is considered a noble.

[@Aramanth]

@@jasonkoch3182 True. But I meant that she is of a noble family and was at least _styled_ as Lady Diana Spencer prior to marriage. Also, the Spencers are an older family than the Windsors originating I think in the 1500s. Not that it matters, I just found it interesting that for so long the Royal Family insisted upon marrying into other royal/noble houses until Elizabeth II's later reign. Which I think is a good thing.

[@tipsy9947]

Margaret's husband's mother, Anne Messel, became by marriage the Countess of Rosse, but she was never royalty.

[@kylecampbell1532]

Camilla is no commoner. Her family is upper class ffs

[@Aramanth]

@@kylecampbell1532 Yes she has royal blood but no title prior to marriage to Charles. Though she is unique! She is descended from the Stuarts as well as a famous mistress of King Edward VII the great-great-grandfather of Charles III. Still I say it was a good thing to break those old royal barriers of marriage.

[@ashwinidesai9847]

Imalda is so spot on as queen

[@mellyreedMR]

"Then why didn't she end her relationship with you." Spot on!

[@charlesmoore6140]

He should have never been forced to marry Diana

[@patrickradcliffe3837]

I get the impression if they had married 30 years ago it would not have lasted either. Charles would have pulled the same stunts he pulled with Diana.

[@corneliali7747]

actually I disagree. He is submissive to her, I mean heck he said he wished to be her tampon and sleep in her knickers. I can see her cheating tho.

[@50hellkat2]

Queen Elizabeth should have removed Prince Charles from succession when he said he "couldn't do it without Camilla" it was a veiled ultimatum... "I won't do it". The Queen had her out and did not take it. She had options. She was only 25 when she became Queen. Prince William was 22 when Charles married Camilla and was 40 when Queen Elizabeth died. Prince William was 28 when he married Katherine. Queen Elizabeth could have called Prince Charles bluff and told him she would approve his marriage to Camilla on condition he be removed from succession to be King. Queen Elizabeth did not attend the ceremony of Charles and Camilla and that said it all. If Queen Elizabeth's mother was alive and was advising Queen Elizabeth she would have put an end to Charles plans to have his cake and eat it too.

[@graphiquejack]

William would not have been happy to take the throne so young, he's said so many times that he wants to be able to raise his family before he becomes king so his children have a real relationship with their father. All of this crap about divorce... who cares... it's the 21st century... grow up. People divorce... and yes, people cheat... even Diana stepped out on her marriage and with married men, too. Trying to control who someone can and cannot marry has never worked... the RF made that mistake over and over and to their detriment. Charles is a good man... him having an affair doesn't erase all the good he's done as Prince of Wales and as King... and remember... before he had kids, it was Andrew who was next... just imagine THAT horror...

[@KS-kr4ok]

in what universe is an adulterous mistress heroic?

[@jaimiesalid3141]

In Charels', presumably.

[@VenaMediaLLC-dz9lr3iz4f]

If he wanted to marry her so bad years ago.Why didnt he...He didn't because he wanted the Throne..He would have been forced to give up the throne...like his relative did generations before to Wed Wallis Simpson....He made a choice...He chose the Throne over Camilla...That's why he went along with the Marriage to Diana..

[@mariapapadeli415]

she kept quiet because she she was the 3rd person and was married to another and so what could she say?

[@Rockyson065]

Nothing heroic about adultery, Charles, NOTHING!

[@pvchandramouli7549]

he was in love with ONE women all his life, thats not adultery. he did not even love the women he married. adultery is like how people go around with many women and many men without marriage like cats and dogs incest.

[@MeMe-cz6pk]

Chuck was spineless. And then there was Camills du Vil. The Monarchy died with Elizabeth.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

Agree - so do a lot in australia

[@yvonneplant9434]

​@@MJ-qb5phSo get OUT of the commonwealth. What keeps Australia in it anyway?

[@sweettea6706]

It lost all class.

[@AlmondJoie]

It feels like it's on life support now. Princess Catherine now is their only hope.

[@furlycee]

Catherine and William seem like nice people 🤷🏼‍♀️ none of us know them personally but the vibes are good with them

[@mellyreedMR]

Charles twists everything. He doesn't know anything about love. He simply wanted his surrogate "mummy", to get back at the Queen, his mother, for not being "there" more for him. I get so sick of it. Puerile stubborness is not a quality of manhood. So much like his great-uncle the Abdicator. smh

[@IkeBaby]

I have no love for Camilla, but she toed the royal line, played the “long game” and won. In that environment, you have to be smart and tough to survive. Camilla was and Diana wasn’t. That being said, I lay the entire Diana debacle at putz Charles’ feet. Of all people, he should’ve known that Diana wasn’t suitable for the royal life.

[@eriwendikhaila]

Diana was suitable for a royal life. She wasn’t suitable for a loveless marriage.

[@TRB277]

Well put!

[@wendyyoung7950]

Oh for gods sake! Diana was a member of the British ruling class,she was Lady Diana Spencer, her grandmother, Lady Fermay(sorry, spelling may be wrong)was a Lady in waiting to the Queen Mother, her father was an equerry to the Queen and one of her older sisters dated Prince Charles for a few months, stop this nonsense!

[@normadesmond6017]

yes. and he never should have married her. but he did while he knew that he would always have Camilla by his side. And that, for me is an unforgivable thing to do to a 20 year old girl.

[@Furrina89]

​@@normadesmond6017sometimes, people have to make tough choices. If Diana had been more mature and understanding, or less impulsive and possessive, she could have happily lived the life of a Queen and let Charles have his fun. Camilla had no plans to legitimatize the affair, and Diana had turned a blind eye from the start, it would have been fine. The Affair was an open secret even before Diana and Charles got together, considering Charles was basically dumped by Sarah (her own sister) for being a simp. Diana was under the impression that she could change his mind (she isn't the first woman to think that, and won't be the last, unfortunately) and it backfired on her. Horribly. Absolutely no one in that drama was innocent, INCLUDING Diana. If she was still alive (and her death hadn't turned her into a martyr), she would probably be right there alongside Harry, writing tell-all books and doing flop reality shows, while Camillia would be the queen who endured and came out on top with a well-deserved Cinderella failrytale ending.

[@a27680]

Charles was ice, Diana was fire.

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

Yep. Diana would BURN anyone 😮😮. Evil SHREW! And Charles could be cold If he didn't get his way. I think Diana was emotionally unstable and treacherous. She messed up more than Charles because Charles remained with his one true love Camilla. Diana had multiple affairs and wrote a book about Charles with Andrew Morton! Her interviews were horrendously wrong!!

[@ecaldwell9]

SHE IS THE BEST PERSON (a live today) TO PLAY THIS LADY.

[@paulawalker2780]

Prince 🤴 Charles said that Camilla suffered and was loyal to the crown. Wow really, and Princess 👸 Diana did not suffer and on top if that was humiliated. You have to be kidding me.

[@ZekeBurns-om3yt]

Nobody cares about your analysis.

[@l.a.3479]

*Charles

[@paulawalker2780]

@l.a.3479 I know I corrected that by a reply alread.

[@paulawalker2780]

I corrected that by a reply already.

[@l.a.3479]

No, you didn't. ​@@paulawalker2780

[@here_we_go_again2571]

Wow ...Spoken like a true queen! Eliabeth II was a true queen; she devoted her life to her country

[@normadesmond6017]

yes, she did. And Charles put his own interests first.

[@here_we_go_again2571]

@@normadesmond6017 Exactly.

[@Pius-XI]

Devoted to ribbon cutting lol

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

​@@Pius-XI QE did much more than just cut ribbons - at least she didn't cut her husband's THROAT as Diana did EVERYDAY!! Horrible woman.

[@Pius-XI]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc What else did Lizzy do?

[@crunchybunnylady]

Imagine if Camilla had done the right thing and stayed away from Charles once he married Dianna.

[@roharbaconmoo]

The queens children were terrible

[@airdriver]

I. Willing to bet that, in real life, Charles went to The Queen not to ask her permission but to tell her he’s going to marry Camilla and that she can either give her permission or he’ll abdicate the throne. And that was the last thing her majesty wanted at the end of her life so she granted permission

[@lissaquon607]

Ahahah you think he'd abdicate? That's clearly the last thing he'd do. If he was going to abdicate he'd have done it age beforw.

[@Furrina89]

​@@lissaquon607he already did the time..why shouldn't he commit the crime to balance it out. What's she gonna do now? Threaten to kick him off the succession line? That's the one thing she didn't want - yet another abdication scandal in the family. Plus media were already talking about the affair, so it just a formality at this point

[@Melcor2304]

@@Furrina89yeah, another abdication scandal would be enough to change their minds, and Elizabeth most certainly doesn’t want Andrew taking the throne, even if he’s her favourite, he’s more flawed than his brother.

[@christinahek]

@@Melcor2304 It wouldn't be Andrew taking the throne. Charles already has kids, so it would be William.

[@nikiryan8648]

@@Melcor2304 get your line of succession correct. andrew is down at #5 now, behind William and his kids.

[@SA-oy9pn]

What a major change in Charles appearance, there is absolutely no resemblance. May as well have cast Daniel Craig.

[@c.barrett5114]

He sounds like an immature child

[@likhwezititus]

Queen Sidechick🙄

[@livingincaptivityIII]

Camilla was a Royal Mistress. Only low class American divorcees use the term "side chick". Such ignorance.

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

​@@livingincaptivityIII In your other post you listed Charles Spencer as one of Diana's lovers. Isn't he her younger brother? Or is this a different Charles Spencer? Would you explain? Thanks...

[@livingincaptivityIII]

@@JoanMorrison-vq2jc Lannisters Targaryens Spencers

[@saundrahuff5870]

This hits different with so much time between when this happened and now.

[@geeky_gunner]

I must admit HR Camilla did keep quiet and showed loyalty to the crown.

[@greekre]

she had no choice, people would throw things at her in the supermarket, what was she going to do hold a press conference

[@daniellefrancis1476]

She was playing the long game.

[@greekre]

@@daniellefrancis1476 or she was just respectful toward the institution and the monarch.

[@Kashish4Eijaz]

​@greekre if she was loyal and respectful to the institution then she would have done the right thing and kept her legs closed and away from Charles after he had married diana. That was in the best interest. But no all she cared about was herself and ruined diana and her boys.

[@connieechols2111]

Girl please! She was leaking information to the press all the time, just like she is doing now! Do you call sleeping with another woman's husband being loyal! Yes she was quiet she was a married woman!

[@patgal2359]

If he had married her 30 years ago he would have been cheating on camilla in 6 months.

[@annajo1963]

Camilla should have stopped the romance/friendship when Charles married Dianna. Then they might have had a chance and the boys would have not had their frustration and sadness of losing their mother. The grandchildren would have known their grandmother. Yes, she is to blame as well as Charles.

[@crm1984]

Everyone raves on about how wonderful and innocent Diana was, but yeah, I don’t buy it. Charles and Camilla are evidently very happy together, the way Camilla has led with Charles being ill speaks volumes to Charles being correct about her being loyal to the crown.

[@vrrr.j]

I know right

[@LookAtWow]

I don't like how people try to create Diana out to be a saint. She wasn't. She was a very lovely person who was so kind to others, that I won't deny but she was also a complex person with her own flaws and assets. To deify her takes away from her humanity.

[@BenjamUniverse]

she was cheated on from day 1. camilla was the problem.

[@Wednesdayschild1325]

They so cold 🥶 to each other

[@HistoricDefense]

There are these unwritten rules like how members of the family to call each other; never to touch each other and so on...

[@Afterburner]

Camilla knew damned well she was in the wrong. And Charles... don't even try to defend that... Elizabeth had a right to be skeptical of her weak son.

[@peterlawrence6815]

If only the queen had said yes earlier .

[@reshmaprabhu7948]

Why did Charles not marry his love and give up the throne...Since the lady did not complain earlier..she would not have complained on giving up the royal life

[@franziskani]

is this Dolores Umbridge ? - yes she is. The actress is Imelda Staunton.

[@PolicywithBrandaun]

Charles is a master manipulator.

[@atha1ia454]

She was his strength in what he wasn't even in the job the whole time. the majority hate him and almost all hate her. They are too selfish to hold their positions and he will never do for britian what his mother did

[@moroseightysix]

Can't believe McNulty was running a deep cover wire on the queen...

[@laughingshaman1]

These folks are messy.

[@ayaretgonzalez27078]

Never complained? can anyone imagine how well it would have gone for her if she had shown her face anywhere in the streets The mistress complaining, could you imagine?

[@fernandafortes3782]

This look like a english version of that Laura Esquivel book "Like Water for Chocolate", the only diference is that the couple after so many years was finally together and very much alive, but because of all this time that it took to the marriage happen it doesnt look a very a warm ending of this love story.

[@divinity176]

So after all those years of a public relationship, we are to believe that this is an issue that hadn't already been thoroughly considered and decisions on its viability not already made... it was probably decided far in advance and him just being seen with her until the public came to accept it was the plan all along.

[@Kaitlyncampbell-nq6yt]

Elizabeth should have stripped him of his birth right.

[@thatguy088]

If I was charles, I wouldve lost my mind here, "advice... i asked YOU not other peoples opinion, just say yes or no"

[@rr7firefly]

As for "heroic" Camilla did not fall apart when Fred Armisen started impersonating her on SNL. His take on Camilla brought us all great enjoyment. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGjUoXeoipWCmq8

[@boulevard14]

Oh, the over-dramatisation

[@tevinramon5763]

I dont see what he saw in Camilla....but love is love and we love who we love we cant control it.....

[@KathleenMcNe]

@@tevinramon5763 Camilla looks exactly like Charles' childhood nanny, Mabel Anderson. Do a Google Images search for Camilla and Mabel. There are side-by-side photos of them that are amazing.

[@MsJubjubbird]

He was never a playboy prince who chased models and such. He likes being in the country, gardening, historical buildings, horses and philosophy. Camilla is a partner who can do those things with him. He and Diana had few shared interests, other than their children.

[@KathleenMcNe]

@@tevinramon5763 Charles sees in Camilla his beloved childhood nanny, Mabel Anderson. The resemblance is uncanny.

[@willumbermarchant5510]

Camilla is a dirty old sort, while Diana was a boring plank of wood.

[@user-rc3rb1pz2z]

Charles is a brat😂😂

[@drockherb2073]

I think Diana was the wronged one here, but it seems that he and Camilla were always in love and it’s a shame that they were not aloud to be together, the only one I see as heroic was the princess 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@thomasmoeller3446]

30+ years and he finally asks to marry the flower girl.

[@user-kf6lu4dn2r]

Thirty years coping with the absolute fucking SHIT SHOW caused by Elizabeth's incest fetish and sheer fucking brainless stupidity, before he could marry the love of his life instead of his second COUSIN the LITERAL teenaged Babysitter. TRUE LOVE WINS!! ALL HAIL QUEEN CAMILLA WHILE ELIZABETH ROTS IN HER GRAVE.

[@gnostic268]

He married the original flower girl who was 16 while he was dating her elder sister and 18 when they met again, 19 when they were engaged while ge was in his 30s. He was a groomer.

[@kimberleymorris8052]

He was MADE to marry Diana to get heirs

[@pvchandramouli7549]

charles could have told diana he is in love with camilla and he is still not able to come out of it... would she be intrested in marrying him, if the marriage between them works after having kids then fine or else she will be made permanent princess even after divorce and camilla a temporary queen till he reigns.

[@martinkrukenberg4590]

Camilla is the mother, Charles never had, and a lover in one

[@Kaia942]

She did? And think she not even tried to stay apart. But that is the logic of Charles's mind.

[@cierragayler]

Thank god she lived so long that he won’t be king very long

[@Dako108]

Camzilla emerged victorious 😂😂😂

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

@ Dako108. Good for Camilla! HER ROYAL MAJESTY QUEEN CAMILLA 💗🎉

[@pvchandramouli7549]

its like this, they both are in deeeeeppp love, but they got seperated for others and for duty to country. the man camilla married was not faithful to her, nor she to him as she was in love already. but she sacrificed her love and went with the flow. queen should have got her married to someone from a different country so they dont meet up again(in holy books its a sin to seperate lovers). they should have told diana everything and then married, that was the best way to Go.

[@a.d.clarke4990]

Queen (Alternate Reality): No, piss off!

[@zombiedude101z]

I think there's a certain hypocrisy people harbour towards Charles and Camilla. They should have been allowed to marry in the first place but the royal family and standards of the time made it difficult. Both Charles and Diana had their faults. They were human, and certainly not blameless. Quite frankly if you want to condemn anything it was the institutionn of the Royal Family that put them in this position.

[@3dartxsi]

I wonder how this is going to affect the Barksdale investigation.

[@ErinAkea]

I agree. There’s nothing heroic about any of this. And expects the queen to offer a thank you???

[@kerty1111]

They should have made their daughter A QUEEN in the beginning and let Charles marry Camilla, Or they should have told Diana, its a job and she will have to wait till Prince William becomes king, after he is CROWNED after he marries an EU aristocratic, then cc and dd can marry each other. I know princess Anne was divorced too,the man she married was an aristocratic? is there any rule that divorcee are not allowed to become king/queen back then? in olden days kings and Queens marry other countries princesses /prince..if they don't find anyone in their community, then they look for someone from commoners,Queen Elizabeth married Prince Philip who was already a prince.

[@golden8972]

There is nothing REMOTELY "heroic" about Cowmilla whatsoever.

[@RoseRedd-k4b]

Camilla was his first love, he should have married her originally. Let him have his first love. Imagine having to ask your mommy to get married, how lame is that.

[@TatianaLouis-l4t]

This was a joke and lie the queens mind was long gone so he never got permission what a disgrace and the last season I believe he asked them to put him in a better light because it deviated too much

[@MiniOilSlyk]

Mummy could give u another medal instead?

[@lucybraun8969]

He mistook Camilla's illusions for love. If she had really loved him, she would have walked away for good, instead of dishonoring him with adultery.

[@andyroo9381]

Camilla is "non-negotiable".

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

Good for Charles! He too wanted love and wanted to heal from his harsh marriage to that SHREW Diana!

[@gabespiro8902]

Pretty much every monarch in history would have had a mistress, the understanding being that the marriage was for political purposes and to produce heirs Don’t get why Charles felt he was different

[@Furrina89]

Absolutely none of the drama would have happened if they had just let Charles and Camilla stay together. They were happy and in love and absolutely deserve their fairytale ending

[@sweettea6706]

Camilla dumped Charles years ago. She chose Andrew Parker-Bowles. And Charles, spoiled brat that he is, couldn't take no for an answer. In the end, that was the attraction. Not love. Not lust. Posession.

[@Twentythousandlps]

Camilla alone had something Charles needed. So he loved her. End (and begining) of story.

[@jaytc3218]

Abolish the monarchy.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

You could always move.

[@jaytc3218]

@@livingincaptivityIII Or you could just abolish the monarchy. These people are not special. They're not better than anyone else. In fact, a great many of them behave badly with impunity, making them worse. Among their ranks are racist bigots, Nazi-sympathetic traitors, and sexual predators. Any time you give millions and millions in public taxpayer money to a bunch of people who have been artificially elevated to near-god/goddess-like status, this is the result. These people live lives of luxury and comfort, they want for nothing, they pay no taxes (involuntarily), and they STILL find things to complain about. Borg Høiby, Norwegian jet setting royal playboy who, at the mere sight of him, causes women to immediately begin ovulating and who is the stepson of Norway's crown prince, was just recently arrested for "bodily harm and criminal damage" against a young woman. These people have no filters, no restraints that the the rest of us must observe. They have little to no impulse control. I know this is going to sound crass but there is no other way to put this. Societies should not be elevating people to positions of privilege, wealth, power, and influence simply because they came from a uterus that has been deemed to be more important than all the others. Abolish the monarchy. Get rid of it.

[@Dayserking]

@@livingincaptivityIIInah- abolish the monarchy

[@jaytc3218]

@@livingincaptivityIII or you could abolish the monarchy.

[@livingincaptivityIII]

@@jaytc3218 Just out of curiosity, how would that change your life, presumably for the better?

[@Marilynkpk]

Queen should asked, Charles, how can you be so thoughtless? Do you really think William and Harry are going to roll out the red carpet for Camilla? This isnt just about You. Choose any woman except this Camilla, she is not the choice i would have hoped for.

[@albertodeangelis9291]

Camilla was like lady Macbeth: all she wanted was the crown and at the end she achieved it.

[@50hellkat2]

If you want to talk about the grief Prince Harry gave to Queen Elizabeth, it is nothing in comparison to the grief his father Prince Charles gave to the Queen for many, many years. I will not even get into Prince Andrew.

[@TandC9876]

Why didn’t Charles just abdicate? Anne ended up Queen anyway 😂

[@bmwbmw3581]

Down with you Camila

[@jazzybash1]

That’s not heroic, that’s just saving face. Also, a proper woman would have bowed out the moment she found out he was engaged to another woman. She was really in love with him, she couldn’t just be his “friend”. But her and her husband were “friends” with him and such is a load of nonsense and a waste of everyone’s time and energy. It would have been different if they reconnected later in life and got engaged but she was there for decades waiting in the wing while they both were married to other people and had children. I honestly blame everyone that was involved in this mess.

[@HeyNonyNonymous]

This show makes so much drama out of so little substance.

[@liendiep3404]

She didn’t say shit because SHE WAS EXACTLY WHAT THEY CALLED HER. What can she say?? SHE NEVER ONCE APOLOGIZED EVER FOR CHEATING!

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

@liendiep3404. Sounds as if you are talking about "Lady" Diana. Charles remained with his one true love Camilla. Diana remained with EVERYONE else! 🤢 Eww. Gross 😝 🤢. HER ROYAL MAJESTY QUEEN CAMILLA ❤️😅🎉.

[@MJ-qb5ph]

I agree with the queen

[@basilikum20]

The Heart wants what the Heart wants

[@vrrr.j]

Exactly

[@Натал20]

"We've been in love for 30 years" - how many people can say that? Most folks don't even can hold down a marriage for 30 years, let alone love each other. And when you look at Camilla and Charles now, you actually believe that they are still infatuated with each other. Let them be happy for God's sake. This could all have been avoided.

[@JoanMorrison-vq2jc]

Well said! I agree 👍.

[@Angel-nu7fm]

Where Elizabeth failed...

[@jasonkoch3182]

Wrong. Allowing her son to marry the woman he actually loved, though 30 years too late, was not a failure.

[@snuggles03]

Elizabeth may have saved the Crown by giving her consent to the marriage, a happy king is a stable Crown

[@GirlycarDawn]

@@jasonkoch3182 It was one of his many failures for loving a bad person.

[@KimBailey-w2g]

@HAMBORGIR8 because that family needed an heir to the throne. It’s all about leaving an heir and Diana was young strong, had her own strengths and her own weaknesses,

[@KimBailey-w2g]

And it’s all about having children to continue the royal family’s line and it’s just sad because Charles and Diana’s marriage didn’t even stand a chance because of the huge age gap that was in between them and Camila that was watch the third wheel. I feel so sorry for Diana. She didn’t deserve to be treated like that by the royal family in any way, shape or form, and it was the queens responsibility to raise a man not a boy in this with Charles is.

[@OluremiOtitoju]

Charles got it wrong long long time ago and he must reap the consequence

[@mariapapadeli415]

the uk and the commonweath had pretty girls all over the place for the king to choose from, why a married . not so pretty , older ,and not an aristocrat Oh well love is blind

[@poornimav7834]

In a way if you think...charles is a Woman 's dream! Freaking loyal he is to the woman he loved from the beginning....if he was allowed to marry her from the beginning...diana wouldn't have been famous , she would have married someone else ..william and harry wouldn't have been born!! Well i say everything happens for a reason. And for the queen...for a pure soul like her had to have 4 children who were all in their own way kind of embarrassment

[@VenosEvans]

Queen Camilla is indeed heroic, for years she suffered judgment and calumny and never complained.

[@heathcomans7809]

West’s portrayal of Charles was so poor.

[@MsJubjubbird]

I agree. He has too much swagger.

[@thehorror7135]

This scene is a perfect representation of why I stopped watching the show...i hated all the characters. Great actors, bad characters.