How the NFL Cheated the Raiders Out of a Dynasty

The story behind former NFL league commissioner Pete Rozelle and the limits he was willing to push in his feud with Raiders owner Al Davis.
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[@ChaseChats]

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[@mynameisgladiator1933]

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[@stephanalston]

Hopefully u ok even though I don't know u or yo content but jus came cuz I'm Oaktown all day. But keep up da good work

[@Megacooler96_]

The NFL has a long history in hating the Raiders and Davis and even to this day we continue to see it

[@tanneredge9774]

Yeah last year we only made the playoffs for the first time in a long time so we could make the Bengals look good. We were never supposed to make the playoffs.

[@Tuocal01]

@@tanneredge9774 they almost beat them so I don’t think your opinion is valid

[@mrh3894]

Al Davis was a weird dude and Mark is a fuckup

[@johnnycage6681]

Lions too

[@VegasD702]

The Bengals are a low tier team so that's disrespectful

[@toddessary4283]

And then there's the "tuck rule" game. That was another critical turning point for both the Raiders and the Patriots.

[@jrsands]

That was an abomination too! FTR!

[@edgardoescobar1393]

You really think they beat the Rams if they go

[@monthrsun7094]

@@edgardoescobar1393Damn right they would of. It’s about the Raiders getting screwed. Til this day we are getting screwed.

[@vd3364]

the hits just keep on coming.

[@carolynscruggs7279]

And the BEST catch by franco harris

[@dustinrhodes4793]

The worst one that's not even talked about is the 1977 AFC Championship game. Lytle's "No Fumble". With the Raiders trailing 7-3, Jack Tatum forced a fumble that the Raiders returned for a TD. Refs blew the whistle and said nobody saw the fumble. They gave the ball back to Denver and they went up 14-3 instead of the Raiders going up 10-7. Broncos would win 20-17. A few days later the NFL sent a letter of apology to the Raiders saying they missed the call. Raiders should have went to back to back Super Bowls. We have been screwed so many times and it's amazing how fans of other teams don't understand why we are all so bitter.

[@82maddhatter]

Don’t forget the phantom “roughing the passer” call on Sugar Bear Hamilton that gave the Raiders another set of downs in the ‘76 Divisional Playoffs…the Raiders advanced and the Pats got hosed…funny how Raider fans forget about that one…if not for that bad call, the Raiders don’t win the Super Bowl.

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

The worst one was Davis letting Allen go to the Chiefs. Get over it, the Raiders will never be relevant again. Go Chiefs!

[@davidwormell6609]

Davis had a long term weird feud with Allen. The rivalry with the chiefs was a great one, but less so once Oakland moved to LV.@@RELopez-mk4ic

[@devinchandula4245]

@@RELopez-mk4ic Anyone can be and cannot be releavant at any point. Chiefs also weren't relevant until 2019. Y'all having a good time but don't think it will last forever.

[@richardthelionheart5594]

It happened like that millions of times. Pete didn't care how obvious it was to everyone watching.

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

The Raiders were the only AFC team to win a super bowl in the ‘80s. ‘80 and ‘83.

[@conEso916]

70's 80's

[@nimblemomonga2311]

They sabotaged Gruden Too

[@kyledamron]

I hate hearing the 76-83 Raiders were a quasi dynasty. If the league didn't always screw them they would have probably won another super bowl in the 70s. I consider the Raiders of the first half of the 80s probably the best AFC team of the 80s, what other AFC team won a superbowl that decade?

[@someperson3883]

They were a real dynasty 3 championships in 8 years

[@arcas8423]

The Raiders could have had Bo Jackson, Marcus Allen and Dan Marino in the backfield, with no trades, and 3 to 6 more SB appearances.

[@vd3364]

drafting Bo Jackson was next-level genius.

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

Could have but didn't. What's the excuse for the last twenty years? Go Chiefs, a class organization.

[@MidwestRaiderTho]

​@@RELopez-mk4icfucccc the chiefs

[@originalraider72]

Chase you killed it! I heard some of this but without the details. Although the raiders didnt win between 68'-75' A team usually had to beat us to get to the Superbowl! 6 Conf/AFL losses and 67 Super Bowl b4 winning it all in 76'

[@jrsands]

Beat us? FTR!

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

Your thug Raiders will never be relevant again. Go Chiefs!

[@jhfaleafine1870]

The Immaculate Deception, Lytle's Fumble, and The Tuck Rule...

[@mikelogan629]

And the screwy Tampa game in the Superbowl, the center flips out, Gruden knowing every play the offense ran

[@talksicfuk]

The folded index card to give Dallas a 1st down Keep it going

[@jhfaleafine1870]

@talksicfuk5672 mos def a b.s. call, but imo it didn't impact the team that much... "the great depression" was already a full go.

[@ernestrimbeck7630]

If the Raiders had drafted Marino we could have had Elway vs Marino two times every year Iron sharpens iron

[@arcas8423]

And probably 3 more SB victories.

[@wingedbuffalo4670]

Instead, the AFC East had Kelly vs Marino 2x per year (plus playoffs). The QB Class of 1983 was indeed special: 3 HoF QBs in the first round (Kelly, Marino, and Elway), plus at least 2 other multi-year starting QBs drafted in the first round (both in the AFC East also -- Ken O'Brien of the Jets and Tony Eason of the Patriots [who was the starter in SB XX against the Bears). As for why Al Davis didn't draft Marino, I suspect he was fixated on Elway, and always believed he would figure out a way to get him.

[@MightySportsFan2000]

Raiders had some awesome legends

[@NWstockoperator]

Snake,Casper,Bo..Branch..Stork

[@summerboy1976]

Hendricks, Vilapiano, Sistrunk, Tatum, Shell, Upshaw, Otto, Blanda. And don't forget The Mad Bomber

[@studmuffin6630]

It’s whack that the Raiders were screwed out of moving back to LA. They were just done dirty during that whole relocation process.

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

God… *I was soo pissed, when that happened.* Then, the *Broncos won THE FREAKING SuperBowl…* 😡🤬😤 *F-- THE RAMS AND THE BRONCOS FOREVER!!!!*

[@joeyf9444]

Great video teaching the younger generation about the Greatness of the Raiders!! 💯👍

[@raelraven3]

The other aspect of the whole Elway saga is that the Colts’ front office was making headway in getting a contract with Elway in the week following the draft until Drunk Bob Irsay pulled off a trade behind the back of his own front office.

[@TheEsquireOfSportsFSU]

Pete Rozelle was not the innocent-looking, aw shucks guy they portrayed him to be when he died.

[@MIKELIN8]

The fact remains that the Raiders still could have been a dynasty if they had picked Marino in the 1st round, instead of Mosebar. So yes, Rozelle got his revenge, but Davis made the choice to not take another HOF quarterback.

[@erickennedy8534]

Mariano was a coke head. Nobody want take a chance. In 82 he was better prospect than Elway, but people say he was on that sugar booger

[@bigalsnow8199]

And the Raiders STILL won 3 super bowls and became the winninest team in professional sports

[@patrickthomas8890]

They’re not the winningest team in professional sports. They’re not even top 10 in the NFL

[@bigalsnow8199]

@Patrick Thomas I said that they were during their prime. You can read?

[@EnemyKnown]

@@bigalsnow8199 can you? Because that does not say that in your comment.

[@patrickthomas8890]

@@bigalsnow8199 I can read and you absolutely did not say that. Re-read your comment

[@patrickthomas8890]

@@EnemyKnown Thank you!

[@SteveSteeleSoundSymphony]

Al Davis was also the only NFL owner who wasn’t involved with the USFL law suit.

[@josey6877]

If only The Raiders drafted Dan Marino that would have been Al’s revenge for the NFL blocking the Elway trade . Dan Marino on that 83 Raiders team history would definitely have been different the Raiders would have made a few Super Bowl runs in the 80’s

[@elamarley3928]

Roger Goodell is carrying it on still lol

[@jasonllerena5526]

Before Roger Goodell there Paul Tagliabue. When Pete Rozelle retired as NFL Commissioner he took Paul aside and told him "whatever you do be sure to stick it to Al".

[@jesssimpson5959]

I’m a long time Raiders fan and I remember when all this was happening and Plunkett and Long were two of my all time favorites but I can’t help but imagine what would have happened had this trade happened. The Raiders were stacked with talent at the time and had just recently won the super bowl so they probably would have won at least a couple more and it would have changed everything, Bo Jackson probably wouldn’t have had his freak injury as well.

[@subzero-ws7wt]

Would’ve, could’ve, should’ve 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@Sir_Charles007]

Live in reality my friend

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

If, if's and but's were candy and nuts, we would all have a merry Christmas. Get over it! Go Chiefs!

[@subzero-ws7wt]

@@RELopez-mk4ic Chiefs!!!!!!

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

@@RELopez-mk4ic *Why TF are Chiefs “fans” even here?!?* *GTFO of a Raider Page!!!!*

[@richardthelionheart5594]

W/o even reading this, it is absolutely true. I watched it happen. Pete F'd the Raiders in every way possible including having his refs prevent wins on the field w/ total bs calls, one after another after another.

[@juansalas7498]

I had my suspicion that the Raiders were getting done dirty. Just how we were on the ballot 2 go back 2 LA recently due 2 sharing the same stadium with the A's but got stopped all of a sudden cuz now the Chargers needed a new stadium. How convenient🤔

[@obedgutierrez3954]

Davis a football god ...and I'm a die hard charger fan

[@markbeckens]

Says no Chargers fan ever!

[@donjohnson2003]

@@markbeckens if you don’t don’t respect al Davis, you don’t know football.

[@Feosnake]

Davis actually got he's coaching experience in San Diego.

[@parrotletsrunearth1173]

And he got his start under Sid Gillman in San Diego, so it goes full circle.

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

Misery loves company. Go Chiefs!

[@charlesrazo7246]

The Raiders won 3 Super Bowls in a time when the league hated Al and his Raiders 1977, 1981 and 1984 Super Bowl champion 🏆🏆🏆

[@reybarragan9377]

Life Long Raiders Fan. I always knew and just felt the NFL through Pete Rosel kept screwing the Raiders. Especially because of the Lawsuit Al Davis was winning against the NFL. I feel even today the NFL has it for the Raiders by use of the referees, example, immaculate reception, 1979 AFC Championship game it was a fumble recovered by the Raiders, tuck rule, Gruden hit job, not allowing the Raiders back to LA, it would have been too big $$$$$!!!! I hope change can happen where it’s neutral and fair. Just Win Already Baby! It’s been since 1983!!!!

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

All you Raider fans sitting home watching the Chiefs dominate the AFC west. Go Chiefs!

[@raidernation9920]

@@RELopez-mk4ic - yea and if the chiefs can’t do it on their own, the refs will make sure it happens

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

@@raidernation9920 Chiefs! Super Bowl Champions! Jabroni LOL

[@mid-s_to_earlysViBEZ]

@@RELopez-mk4ic *Nobody GAF about the Chiefs, BUT Chefs “fans.”* *SIT TF DOWN.*

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

@ Yeah, I'm going to sit down and watch them win the Super Bowl this evening. BTW, so are the pitiful Raiders! lol

[@EnemyKnown]

I don't see why the Raiders didn't draft Marino at the 26th pick? He wasn't Elway but I think Dan could have won a championship or 2 with the Raiders.

[@sambiscits6711]

I love it at the end with a female voice saying. Actually, the scandal was Mark Sanchez touching a teammate's butt that was referring to the infamous butt fumble, where I believe Mark ran into the center when he was trying to scramble and hit his butt and fumbled the ball. Go Raiders!

[@glennamesquita679]

The Raiders are never going to be accepted like the rest of the league teams history will not be forgotten RFL GO Raiders!

[@maureencora1]

The Raiders Should Have 5 Super Bowls instead of 3.

[@raiderjohnthemadbomber8666]

The NFL has always had a hard-on for the Raiders. Add to that "The Curse" and we're screwed. Elway, Brady and Mahomes are the standards for QBS today and there's just not enough talent out there that meets those standards. The upside is we kept Howie!

[@naturalimmunity7007]

Even worse we could've had Dan Marino but took Don Mosebar

[@pauljones2857]

I really starting to think that NFL and the money makers up top the big money control the game if they want the Chargers to win the Chargers will win they want the Colts to lose the Colts lose that's just how it's going to be and the referees are involved so are the coaches and so are the players

[@someperson3883]

1976 1980 1983 Dynasty

[@arcas8423]

1978 got screwed with Rob Littels fumble that wasn't. Or a SB trip.

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

1984-2023 a Tragedy. Go Chiefs!

[@someperson3883]

@@RELopez-mk4ic Not a Raiders fan. I’m saying 3 titles in 10 years is a dynasty

[@Chopan8809]

And now it's Jerry Jones vs Roger Baddell. And the Cowboys are the most penalized team in the league. And people think that there is no manipulation in sports haha

[@nikolugo]

The Raiders still get hosed to the day

[@ericross441]

Even with Elway, The NFC teams were way too loaded, back then. It probably saved The Raiders from being embarrassed in a couple of Super Bowls

[@patrickthomas8890]

Exactly…the Niners, Giants, Bears, and Redskins were monsters in the 80s. Elway got embarrassed by the NFC multiple times in the Super Bowl.

[@lzv6990]

The Raiders were one of the AFC teams that was physical then. Their issue was with QB.

[@jameshirning5615]

I mean even though the trade didn't go through. The raiders still screwed themselves out of their dynasty because they still could have drafted Dan Marino. And who knows with Dan Marino could have took them to the Super Bowls. And with Marcus Allen they could have finished they could have won Super bowls

[@freedomworks3976]

Ron Wolf likes to joke with Don Mosebar by calling him Dan Mosebar. True story

[@ronaldkrokel8634]

I agree 100% with you and told that to my friends for 40 years

[@tonydaysog9164]

The NFL hated Davis because he was purposefully not part of the football owners boys club.

[@patrickthomas8890]

Al Davis also opened the door for teams forcing taxpayers to pay for stadiums and abandoning loyal fan bases…Baltimore, Cleveland, St Louis, Oakland, LA, San Diego etc…

[@devinchandula4245]

Wow I never knew these. I've been a Raiders fan only for 3 years now. I knew that the Raiders are hated by the officials but didn't know down to the facts. It doesn't matter tho am gonna stick to them till I die. Idc even if they don't win a championship in my lifetime.

[@charlesrazo7246]

Not for all of them raider nation guys they say winning a Super Bowl not important ?

[@hacatan24]

Wow i didn't know about this... Great content

[@jazolisauce5374]

Now we are becoming the Patriots. Got the coach now we are probably going after the QB. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@Juan-qq1rb]

Should have drafted Marino

[@tonydaysog9164]

Marc Wilson …. TERRIBLE.

[@royedmonds2709]

Same things going on now. With the Raiders. Nada has changed

[@turnipsucks6416]

They did it again to raiders when the NFL shit on gruden with alledged email leak.

[@GunnyPhillips]

The NFL is an insult to true sportsmanship these days, despite it's escalating profitability. Even calling it "sports entertainment" has become somewhat of a stretch.

[@emilioc2120]

get well soon

[@pedrop99969]

Isn’t Mariano a better qb then elway?

[@Deadman88jm]

Statistically yeah but he couldn't win a sb and Elway did back to back years making him a better winner

[@debaser_666]

The Long to Bears trade has been disproven in the From Elway to Marino documentary. The Bears messed it up because it was a package deal and Davis balked on Long. Demoff explains it clearly. Davis screwed himself when he chose to destroy Marcus Allen over winning and making terrible trades, Lachey for Schroeder, and draft picks, Todd Marinovich, and firing coaches, Mike Shanahan. Stop. Davis did as much to destroy his own team than help it.

[@kidlast4154]

Didn't help that he under utilized Marcus Allen so Much

[@louiswerner3863]

I agree, but they still passed on Dan Marino. Did not need Elway.

[@stephaniegormley9982]

This is so much 'Raider paranoia' But even if it's true, I still don't care. Remember Al Davis' whole argument for the Raiders moving wherever they wanted without the leagues permission, was to claim each team was a separate company. It was not a company with 28 departments, it was 28 different companies. And the commissioners office was a separate entity who should be powerless. Fine. But companies that separate and discrete conspire against, and grift each other all the time. Can't have it both ways Al. Do ya want' "cutthroat" or "sportsmanship?"

[@kushmob4208]

we all know damn well davis has the last laugh treatin the hell out of rozelle up there 😂 #RN4L

[@tealingw1371]

Still stiffing us now, while loving the Hunt family big time

[@darryljones7603]

Still obvious til this day!!!!!!!!!

[@djmrnelson]

Even as a staid era fan, I liked Elway.

[@JacionBryant]

Can make a part two who make this a series

[@walterito3398]

This will make everything sweeter when we win that damn Super Bowl.

[@kevinkaatz883]

I was at those LA Coliseum games. Ha ha

[@Eddiesuckiel-eq8rf]

I will always remain an Oakland Raiders fan but being in Vegas isn’t the same

[@imartinez76]

At 11:17 the most pivotal move in NFL HISTORY 😮

[@SpecterVideoGamer]

And Goodell is doing it again

[@JoeyTek5150]

We could have had kept Long and drafted Marino… crazy

[@savageraider5110]

And the league is still sticking it to the raiders any chance they get

[@effend446]

You want to live by the sword, you better be willing to die by it. The Raiders have always been willing to live by the sword, given their history of dirty play. But they’ve never been willing to die by it when they get called out for it. And that’s not even counting the gangs associated with them.

[@perryfragoso]

“You wanna say we’re dirty? Ok then do something about it” - John Madden ☠️☠️☠️💪🏽

[@effend446]

@perryfragoso Da Bears gave the Raiders a taste of their own medicine in 1984.

[@keithjordan3907]

💯 thanks.

[@MRC325]

Should have just taken Marino. That was dumb.

[@gwareb8842]

Its probably going to happen again when the raiders try to move up for jayden daniels who AP LOVES and coached arizona st. im already prepared for this which makes no sense why and the nfl is a pieace of crap...i would hope this hate is over.

[@SouthernOregonReps]

It just shows we have fuct up draft picks for 25years!

[@kenshelle1]

No one believes the league hates the Raiders even with stories like this and the tuck rule🤦🏾‍♂️

[@theroachden6195]

But, they did hate Al Davis

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

I'll also bring up the early 2000s teams. 2000 - Raiders finish 12-4, demolish Miami 27-0 in the divisional game. In the AFC Championship Tony Saragusa landed on Rich Gannon in the 1st quarter with his entire 300 lbs, injuring Rich. He was later fined $10,000, but the damage obviously done. Without Gannon, the Raiders had no offense and lost. 2001 - Tuck Rule. I don't need to really elaborate, do I? That call was never once made before, and never again. Just at one, crucial time against the Raiders. 2002 - Raiders go to the Super Bowl. But coach Bill Callahan calls the stupidest game in NFL history. Changing the playbook 2 days before the game from a run-heavy scheme, to pass heavy. This made zero sense, and baffled the players, as the Raiders OL outweighed the Buccaneer DL by a few hundred pounds. Tampa had a lights out pass defense that was unstoppable in the playoffs. The Raiders, despite having Gannon, Brown and Rice, were a balanced offense with 4 good RBs. But they rarely ran the ball all game. Tyrone Wheatley didn't have a single carry. The pass plays and audibles they used were the same old ones they had when Gruden (now Tampa coach) drew up. WTF? Some Raider players accused Callahan of sabotaging the game, as he hated Al Davis, and was friends with Gruden. I won't go that far, but won't blame other Raider fans if they do. But he did call the stupidest game in history.

[@johnwalker4329]

Bill Callahan was the raiders coach in superbowl 37. (2002) season.

[@PhilAndersonOutside]

@@johnwalker4329 Correct. Typo on my part. I'll fix it.

[@michaellauletti6552]

If elway had come to the raiders he would of had 3 super bowls with those raiders team

[@briankleinschmidt3664]

Nobody likes the commissioner, but Al Davis rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. What made Da Bears change their mind?

[@VisualTedium]

You should mention the Conference championships as well imo

[@raidernation9920]

The league hates the raiders? Omg no way

[@AvgeekLucas]

The Raiders are their own worst enemy - FACT!!!

[@notsosilentmajority1]

Elway won 2 Super Bowls with the Broncos but he carried the Broncos on his back to get to 3 others. If Elway had gone to the Raiders instead of the Broncos, he may have won a few more Super Bowls and the Raiders probably would have had their dynasty at that time.

[@samtrexo]

The Raiders could have and should have won additional Super Bowls.... if not screwed by tbe refs in the games with the Jets, Denver, Pittsburgh, New England - a true dynasty if not for haters!!

[@dertylox45]

I goes on to this day

[@brandonmckinley1413]

What about the dynasty the Colts missed out on?

[@kevinkaatz883]

Mosebar was awesome

[@EmmaBonn96]

Here’s my extrapolation The Raiders get John Elway The Bears get Howie Long John Elway gets weapons and a defense so he goes to 4 super bowls and wins 3 between 83 and 98 bringing the Raiders total to 5. Raiders win against the Redskins in 83, Niners in 84, and Niners in 94. They lose to the Niners in 89 Mike Haynes stays in New England but the Raiders get Kevin Ross with the last pick in the 6th round of the 84 draft The Colts get Jim Covert and Dan Marino in the first, and grab Henry Elliot and Mark Clayton in later rounds. they beat the Howie Long led 85 Bears instead of the Dolphins but the bears still go on to destroy the patriots but Mike Haynes gets a pick six to make it a little more competitive at the start. The Raiders stay in LA The Colts stay in Baltimore The Broncos move in the middle of the night to Oakland

[@ALGORITHMIC_EXILE]

many such cases...............

[@scottarivett496]

Yea Rozelle was a douche like Goodell. NFL seems to like douche leadership. But passing on Marino??? At least 2 more SB wins there.

[@Raiderkev88]

I believe in Karma the people who are responsible cheating the Raiders will be punished and The Raiders will be back on top winning multiple Super Bowls. Just wait!

[@DynomyteDewd91]

Been almost 40 years.....still waiting 😂

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

Just Wait Baby! lol

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

Living in the past! Go Chiefs!

[@azraider99]

There definitely was some funny business... but that is not what brought the Raiders down. Al Davis built the team (and yes I believe they were a dynasty (late 70s and 80s), however he also tore down the Raiders... what with all the lawsuits and Al Davis losing a lot of his football acumen due to not being around the team enough....imo..

[@DynomyteDewd91]

They weren’t a dynasty in the late 70s. 77’ afc championship appearance and 9-7 record in both 78’ and 79’ with no playoff appearance in either. Hardly would consider that a dynasty. They won a super bowl in 76’ but that would be considered mid 70s. They reloaded well in 80’ with different players at key positions and could be considered a dynasty in the early 80s.

[@nickyemana1159]

YOU basically DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE RAIDERS COULD HAVE HAD DAN MARINO WHO IS EVEN BETTER THAN ELWAY IN 1983 DRAFT THEY PASSED ON HIM AND TOOK Don Mosbar -Al Davis WAS CLUELESS WHEN IT CAME TO QUARTERBACKS

[@tonydaysog9164]

Agreed … that’s the issue … Raiders screwed themselves. If they really wanted a QB and Elway was their target, then failure to get Elway for whatever reason implied that they should’ve gone after Marino, or, if he was a part of this draft, Jim Kelly. It’s the Raiders who screwed themselves by not having properly vetted Marino and, instead, selected a so so Mosebar.

[@DireHammer]

Elway was vastly overrated. And Mosebar was the worst pick in Raiders history, the Raiders with Marino would have been battling the Niners for supremacy for the rest of the 80s.

[@bsmith8943]

Raiders deserve everything they get.

[@brianbanks8570]

Especially after leaving home again!!!

[@raidernation9920]

@@brianbanks8570 - it would’ve been nice to stay in Oakland. Can’t blame the organization though. They made attempts to build a new stadium there. Now they have the best stadium in the league

[@brianbanks8570]

@@raidernation9920 and zero home field advantage!

[@raidernation9920]

@@brianbanks8570 guess we just gonna pretend the upper deck wasn’t tarped off in Oakland because they couldn’t sell tickets. Or the fact their was a baseball diamond on the field for almost half the season

[@brianbanks8570]

@@raidernation9920 you don’t get it! … and that’s fine. Raiders ownership and instability ruined this once great franchise! It’ll never be the same! I’m from Oakland! The team and the city once mirrored each other which created the mystique you’ve only heard about. Do some research and learn about the Real Oakland Raiders and what they meant to professional sports… period !!!!!

[@jrsands]

Look… there’s only one answer to this outrageous abomination! FTR!

[@r8r4life42]

Win a Super Bowl baby !!! FTC!!!

[@BrysonMichaelRC]

Damm, had Elway went to the Raiders he would've probably won 4 or 5 superbowls. They were a great team with no QB for a long time. I've never heard of this. Crazy

[@kincamell]

Heavy

[@TalkMyShiit]

Yep life long Raiders fan and it’s true !!!

[@NWstockoperator]

Me too. I have two friends that were Raiders QBs but not stars..David Humm and Paul Larson

[@NWstockoperator]

@@allthingsconsidered...4894 I helped him stack some firewood at his house awhile ago They don't allow fireplace fires anymore there in Orinda CA .He lived not far from Mr Jacuzzi the inventor of Jacuzzi spas who I also knew back then

[@RELopez-mk4ic]

Yeah, it's true they are no longer relevant. Go Chiefs!

[@raimywinter2309]

Raiders forever.Raaaaaaiders!