Garmin NEEDS to Make THIS! (Whoop Killer)

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[@DanielAlvarez-vf1dg]

100% agree ; I want to wear my mechanical watches and still have all the info!! Great point Dave

[@ZachGrabill]

THIS

[@PetrvsMT]

Definitely!

This!!!!!!

[@KK-71]

+1

[@DeeKay1911]

Spot on! I’m an Apple Watch Ultra user but would still love to keep tracking all my data and them wear my mechanical watches once in a while. I can go for the morning run and hit my daily workout and swap, but currently it’s always a trade off

[@briancross4415]

I would probably buy something like this. There’s no way in hell I’d pay a subscription fee to whoop. That’s ridiculous.

[@NickBEADG]

The subscription is *OK* when you consider you get the device for free, great warranty, ai coach, and the newest devices when they come out for free

[@Damian_S_]

@@NickBEADGno, it’s not ok, its ridiculous.

[@wiseone2173]

@@NickBEADG I agree. People pay a subscription to Netflix and other than getting to watch a movie, you don’t have anything material from them.

[@Kkjimmy90runs]

👌👌👌👌

[@thecooldude4564]

@@Damian_S_whoop 4.0 is $239 for 12 months that’s cheaper than a decent Garmin or an Apple Watch series 9.

[@EL-OH-EL-99]

100% - I have been wanting Garmin to do this forever, don’t know why they don’t do it

[@RMILLSMMA]

The fact that Garmin haven't already made this device absolutely baffles me. The subscription kills Whoop for me so I'd buy one of these in a heart beat. 👍🏻

[@ornellapesenti]

They're too concerned in changing the AMMMMMAZING new app... 😣

[@peets127]

100% agree. I wonder if the patent is strong enough that harming can’t pull off a clean design that’s comparable

[@grgolds]

YES, YES, YES!!!! Please Garmin develop this product

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

[@fabianscheck2564]

Absolutely true! I have thought about such a band from garmin at least a thousand times!

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

[@paolaroblesgil]

I've suggested this on social media several times. The last time I added a screenshot of the Amazfit combo 😅 Garmin finally responded that I should submit a customer suggestion, so I did. It would be really awesome!

[@funkyt2436]

Totally agree! It drives me nuts that if you want a minimalist tracker in the Garmin ecosystem, you’re stuck with a vivosmart, which just looks like a toy, or you have to move up to a lower-end forerunner.

[@DonovanMaguigan]

This speaks to my soul. Thank you for making this video. As a person who prefers to wear an analog watch, wears a Whoop, and uses a Garmin (Epix Gen 2) for golf, hiking, and biking, the idea of a Garmin "Band" would a definite "shut up and take my money" moment for me. The Whoop data sync with Garmin and subscription fees nag at me, but I also love the Whoop data without a large smartwatch.

[@wojciechpatalas6660]

I couldn’t agree more. Right now I am wearing all the time Vivosmart on my right hand with all functionality (display, messaging etc.) off just to gather data and Fenix watch only during training.

[@adriandejonge]

I do the same, and its annoying that they havnt got something as slim as the whoop band

[@ThetrueAP]

I do the same when wearing my mechanic watches at work. I’m considering using a nylon strap to fashion something similar to whoop band out of the vivosmart

[@5CG]

I pitched this to Garmin a couple of years ago, but they gave me the runaround and said maybe in the future.

[@davidahl72]

I would definitely buy it and would gladly pay $300 or so. Solves all the problems you mentioned and probably a few nobody has thought off. Come on Garmin!!!!

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

[@jstephensaz]

Yes to everything! This is exactly what I’ve been hoping Garmin would produce for years. I walked away from whoop a while ago because of the subscription and the lack of GPS. I wear a Garmin, but miss my old analog watches. I’m ready for the Garmin strap and an Omega!

[@dshpeegz]

Garmin needs to fix their app too. Sleep tracking is meh, they basically ignore weightlifting strain on the body so for us weightlifters and walkers Garmin is not the best, and their app layout (yes the new one) is pretty bad compared to whoop.

[@meaphotographica]

that's a bummer

[@gedd6750]

I tested the beta version of the new Connect lsyout , and it is not great .

[@i.c.wiener2750]

what do you think is better suited for weightlifting?

[@MarcusFAquila]

I would even go further: make the band to be a running/swimming/cycling HR sensor (like Polar has). Meaning not only you can wear it to track your sleep data, but HR when exercising.

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

[@joecourtney8552]

the chest strap will do that and you dont need to wear your watch. you can start your activity on your watch, the HR sensor will connect then put your watch in your bag or pocket and it will record and send the data to the watch.

[@CalvoConBarba]

100%!! I’d love to be able to collect HR date on situations where I don’t need GPS data or I don’t want to wear my Fénix. Not only sleeping, but also at crossfit, working out with kettlebells or rowing indoors, to name a few situations (a ring would be a no in those cases too). Coros already have a band to wear in the arm, and all the info syncs with the watch data. But please, NO subscriptions. HATE them.

[@rocoltro]

Agree! Have a 965 and would buy one of those.

[@christophsproehnle2114]

Clips like this one + some comments must be like a gold treasure for the guys at Garmin researching the community for tipps and hints to improve their devices or develop new ones. I`m also a Garmin user and wouldn`t use a Whoop for the exact same reasons. In the long term I think it just doesn`t pay off like a Garmin or some Applewatch would. So, it`s kind of a matchball for Garmin, I guess. Great video, as always !

[@KwyjiboVanDeKamp]

I have an idea for a DIY Garmin Whoop band: - buy a relatively cheap and small Garmin watch (e.g. FR255S) - turn of notifications and use just the fitness tracking - buy just the strap of the Coros heart rate monitor - attach the strap to the watch - wear it on your upper arm - et voilà 😁

[@i.c.wiener2750]

in theory you can't just slap a heart rate sensor on any part of your body, it should be specifically calibrated for the body part (and a lot of body parts aren't suited anyways, because the skin is too thick or there are no blood vessels).

[@Nightslide]

simply wanted to say one thing: thanks for making this video, just pushing this to garmins attention

[@Sinasi08]

Hey Garmin, hope that you have watched this video! This is great idea!!

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

[@javiersp15]

Yes! We need a Garmin whoop-a-like band. On my current work I use rolled up sleeve shirts with my crossover solar but I'm switching to a VP position and I can't wear that thick watch with a suit.

[@Carmine616]

I sent Garmin a tweet with this idea too! Thank You for making a great video about it

[@leonard1718]

Please keep me updated! I'm looking for this for about a year! And I definitely think Garmin is the brand that pulls this off!

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

yes, please! ❤ I work in healthcare and there is nothing that I would like to get from Garmin as much as they arm strap health tracker. The subscription service of whoop is killing it for me.

[@toshaks]

I would love that. I exactly want this. I wanna have Forerunner for runs, Band for regular day to day so I can wear other watches.

[@jeepgigi]

Definitively that would be a great idea from Garmin to provide a such additional tool in particular when you have big watches such as Fenix, Tactix. It's not always easy to wear during the night

[@rubarb1275]

This is genius! I would definitely be interested in this!

[@blckprntbyshiftedshore]

Totally agree. I do tend to use my HR strap (via its dedicated memory) whenever I can't wear my 965s though would appreciate Whoop-like Garmin device instead. Great point!

[@matthiaswuest7271]

I would definitely 100% get behind this. Garmin could even style it like an arm-bamd hrm for those who can't use a chest strap comfortably. Please make it happen!!

[@timverkoyen8742]

This is the reason why I bought the forerunner. I love that it’s so light and therefore less intrusive during my sleep. But agree that this seriously a reason I used to have before obtaining the forerunner for a product like this

[@MortgageChad]

100% That's exactly what I've been looking for, Need something that doesn't have a screen and I don't want to wear two watches!

[@danielisrael5365]

I've been thinking about this for years! happy you made a video on it. I use Garmin for running and cycling but don't like wearing it when I'm not exercising and especially don't like wearing a watch to sleep but would still like all the data on one platform

[@fdfurlan]

WOW! Great idea! The point to have the option to wear a traditional watch and still have the measures is really good! Unbelievable they didn't have that idea!

[@gedd6750]

I would definitely buy a band if garmin made one , happy to pay £150 ish . My watch irritates my wrist at night, and I can't sleep in my chest band.

[@brunoamagno]

vivosmart?

[@Bajbajoc]

What watch do you have? From my experience, I can live with forerunner 24/7 especially when I have nylon strap instead of rubber one, my colleague has Fenix and it's too heavy for him.

[@BobInVT]

You are definitely not alone. Would love to have either a Garmin band or Garmin ring to wear at night so I could take my watch off at the end of the day.

[@Endurance_Engineer]

Absolutely agree! Wish they would get this out ASAP! Long past due!

[@MadisonGenevieve92]

I've also seen whoop has a few clothing items you can wear it in instead of your wrist, which in some cases would be ideal! Garmin should consider this

[@foxy2348]

YESS - Give me Garmin, no subscription without a screen! PLEEAASE!

[@EduardoEspiritoSanto_esanto]

Agree 100%. I am using Edge as the primary device and I would love to sleep with something smaller then my Epix

[@TheDoomWorm]

i've been wanting something like this for years! No idea why only whoop does it

[@micah2501]

I have a cool idea too: a modular whoop-style-band/running watch hybrid. The band has the optical HR and other sleep measuring items build in, but on top there is some kind of click-in mount for the bezel of a traditional garmin watch. You could take the watch component off when sleeping and even let it charge separately overnight while still tracking recovery and sleep, then snap it onto your wrist in the morning and head out the door.

[@TheTechILike]

100% agree! Waiting for it too. And you'd certainly deserve the commission 😀

[@RideAlongside]

Garmin - don't do this. Let Whoop ride out their wave all the way to the beach. Dave - I agree that a sleep band that would track my data overnight while my watch charges and allow me to sleep less obtrusively would be amazing. I won't buy Whoop because all my stats are on Connect. You made a compelling point

[@christophermoreno1794]

I would definitely buy this. Wear it for every day use and wear my forerunner during runs.

[@mattdavis855]

I’ve wanted this forever, I even bought a 3D printer 5 years ago to try to make one myself out of an old Fitbit. Garmin needs to do this.

[@lancestephenson2665]

I agree. I also think that if Garmin did do this, they may also do more with their own "whoop" style feedback that Whoop gives on their app which would not only give current Garmin users with certain sensors we all benefit

[@sportinstr]

Totally agree, I would buy a Garmin band the minute it releases

[@beachs7210]

I have a whoop, wore for few months and that was it. Would absolutely love if Garmin would do it though!! I would buy that and I know my husband would use it.

[@BlueManatee]

This is 100% me j actually hate sleeping with my watch but i love having the statistics. But also like being able to still wear my actual watches.

[@Phat-rj3jo]

I hate wearing watches (Garmin) to sleep, I am waiting for Apple to come out with a ring so I can go back to AW.

[@-Tholos-]

@@Phat-rj3joyou could get an Ultra Human ring. It works well as a sleep tracker. And writes all it’s data to Apple Health.

[@thomasschrader3041]

Can't sleep with a watch on my wrist, so I am wearing the forerunner around my ankle at night using a soft-ish flexible strap. Did the trick for me at least.

[@maranr]

This is great Dave. I have been asking for this kind of product from Garmin for a couple of years. Even posted it in the comments here and a couple of other channels about it. Thank you, Dave for creating for this video. Hopefully Garmin will listen. I WOULD BUY it immediately as a companion to my Fenix 7 watch since I don't always want to wear my watch, especially at night for sleep.

[@ryanhburke]

Yes! I've been wanting this product ...but slightly different. I want Garmin to release their sensor in a self adhesive form so I can stick it on my mechanical watch.

[@domoel]

This! I am talking about this exact topic for like years. Thanks to highlight it and make it therefore visible.

[@lookpro.rideslow]

1000% agree. I have two Epix Pro. One for work/daily beater. The other for the weekend lol. Would love a Whoop-esque device

[@aspiring0609]

Agree - I personally use the whoop because it doesn't have a display and one can really wear it 24/7. In terms of accuracy probably Apple Watch or others would be far superior but the display for me is a huge distraction (apart maybe from training in different heart rate zones). So hope your wish will be heard also from other manufactures 🙌🏻

[@Scott_Graham]

I use an Amazfit Band 5 for this exact purpose. Small. Long battery life. Heart rate sensor. Pairs to the Zepp app to track sleep/workouts etc. Lots of aftermarket bands to make it look decent. Syncs with Strava. If Garmin made this it would cost way more and do the exact same thing. I wear mechanical watches and the tiny Band 5 disappears on my other wrist. It even has a tiny screen if you want one.

[@karolpiotrowski3511]

Definitely would fit my use case. I hate wearing the Fenix at work, night etc so I'm missing out on a lot of data. Then I'm also not a big subscribtion fan and Whoop is definitely too steep for what it is. So I hope someone at Garmin watches this vid !

[@weekendwarrior8179]

I use the whoop while sleeping mostly, and a smart watch during the day. Whoop now integrates their data into apple health and samsung health.

[@Secherdk]

I definately would buy as a companion to my Epix Pro 51mm... Especially as the Whoop can be worn on the upper arm, I would use for activities like crossfit where kettlebells smash on the wrists all the time.

[@shelwhite3411]

I love my whoop! I know its not super accurate compared to other devices, but its not about 1 data point. For me its about tracking trends over time. My favorite part is the journal tracking and the insights from it. If Garmin came out with a product that did that and I didn't have to pay a monthly subscription, I'd for sure consider it. It would also need to have some kind of battery that clips on like the whoop, so I'd never have to take it off to charge it. I also love that about my whoop.

[@ashcasson]

I couldn't agree more. I have had dozens of Garmin watches over the years, often multiple at a time that I've switched about for various reasons and used but I've thought for the last year or two that something less watchy would be amazing. Be it a ring or a strap like the Whoop. I wouldn't move to any other ecosystem so it's really just waiting for Garmin but sometimes it would be nice to be able to use one of my gorgeous analogue watches that I own and still track everything as I do normally.

[@prefixerable]

As a Epix Gen2 user and also currently owning a WHOOP, I can confirm I would buy this for sure. Also because I cant keep my watch on during football matches but I dont want to measure the fatigue and training impact from the matches. With a band I could still wear it elsewhere.

[@thewildman4300]

Whoop is a vibe. Their app interface is second to none. I use both a Garmin and a whoop while training but have no issues taking the Garmin off and wearing the whoop and using that data as my "overall" readiness data.

[@ChaseTheSummit]

For sure, their app is really where the magic happens.

[@hippygeeza]

Sounds like an awesome idea! To expand on that. Make it like a stryd pod, so you can remove the band, put on your shoes and it can track your power using when running. Or put on an extend strap and use as a chest HRM. That I would pay 200 for easy! So band at night, foot pod on the run with a watch, or a on a larger band as a HRM

[@BeyondBordi]

I would pay 300€ for this if they don't ask me for a subscription. It will also expand my Garmin ecosystem.

[@brunoamagno]

garmin vivosmart?

[@stefanorlowski8053]

Hello, thank you very much. Since the Fenix 5, I have been hoping for exactly this sensor. Amazing that Garmin has ignored the potential so far. Polar and Coros also oversleep this innovative idea...

[@marcharris9461]

I've been wanting this since the whoop came out! ! I love my analogue watches but haven't worn them for years whilst training for triathlons and trying to keep an eye on training readiness, body battery and stress etc.

[@TheOrdinaryUnordinaryGuy]

Owning an epix2 wear it 24/7 just to get the data. Would definitely buy that band from Garmin to have everything in one app ❤

[@graydogllc]

I agree with the sentiment. The Instinct 2 is about as big as I want to wear while sleeping. I want one of the Fenix or Epix 51mm watches, but the thought of sleeping with it on is kind of too much for me.

[@Thebeardedscientist]

This would definitely help me move to Garmin, would buy this product

[@joannemarkov]

I would love to wear my old watches again and still have the data in my Garmin Connect. I'd totally be interested in this.

[@trichter196]

I have been waiting for Garmin to release something like what you describe for years now!

[@nataliapozhidaeva9295]

100% support about collecting all the data, it is really strange to have recovery time only on one device, all should be shared with watches, bike computer, we should be able to use one watch for daily usage, another for training!

[@Dogwalkerdave]

Yup. I’d buy one as well. Great thoughts Dave. Cheers!

[@AlexTushinsky]

I absolutely would use this. I am a long-time Garmin user, who ended up switching to Apple Watch. I prefer the features of the Apple Watch but desperately missed features like Body Battery and many others. This forced me into using an Apple Watch + Whoop band, and now I've also added the Ultrahuman Ring Air (although I don't think I'm keeping this, as the data is better from Whoop). So if Garmin was to make a band similar to Whoop, I would absolutely buy it and use it, but really needs to be like Whoop and not like the display based VivoSmart 5. I'll also say that I attempted to go back to Garmin a few months back and bought the most expensive Epix watch. I couldn't get used to it again and could not deal with some of its limitations like all-or-nothing messaging, and no real ability to text people back. Plus the lack of good apps is a real problem, so I can't see myself ever going back to a Garmin watch, but I would 100% go back to the Garmin eco-system and metrics using a Whoop-like band.

[@mattmecham]

I m in this pocket too! I "need" the Apple Watch for all its streaming / messaging options but also need the body battery, HRV, stress, etc.

[@Gladiak]

I have thought about it many, many times. I loved the old fitbit charge or jawbone up24. I would buy it with my eyes closed. You are the man, I love your channel ❤

[@chad.haggerty]

Garmin, listen to this man!! This is EXACTLY what I’ve been looking for. I’ve rewatched your Whoop reviews lately and cannot do anything except agree with your suggestion: too expensive.

[@ThiloWitting]

One of the biggest reasons I didn’t keep my Garmin watch was that Garmin seems to “force” me to use it at night to access all its smart features. Without this, both the watch and the app become pretty useless and are too expensive just for a workout device. I have an Oura ring that I love for sleep tracking, and it’s effortless to keep on without a second thought. For me, creating the next device that forces me into the Garmin ecosystem wouldn't be a solution. A better solution (IMO) would be to import data from other apps (like Oura or Whoop) into the Garmin app and still use the Garmin watch for fitness workouts and hikes, as it’s truly fantastic for that purpose.

[@KrisBaca]

YES! How has Garmin not done this yet??? I will buy a $250-$300 Garmin band today if it has all the sensors a, say, Forerunner 965 has

[@MarkusJausS]

would make my wolrd perfect and I always thought of this as well so thanks for sharing this idea!

[@reineroberhaus]

Fantastic Idea , I would buy it. Or I will go further, we need a Garmin Ring !!!!

[@KidtipsyEthn]

Yes , and a ring and they need to sync body battery! I have been waiting for that to happen for years. That is the one thing that Garmin has yet to resolve from a software stand point. I hate switching devices and seeing the software estimate and move either 10-15 points up or down when switching watches. Or also not seeing the activity from my Fenix 7 show how it affected my body battery when I put the Venu 3 back one.

[@modernwini]

That would be great indeed. I've just cancelled my Whoop subscription and am thinking about what I could replace it with next.

[@lukas9990]

I agree with every single word. I’ve been waiting for a smart ring from Garmin for a while now because I am wearing Fenix devices since…:forever, and I’d really like to have an opportunity to wear a classic watch without losing my daily data.

[@jason.b896]

Agree. I just want to wear a mechanical with no notifications and still have good data tracking. The rings do t seem to have enough data to me.

[@brandennall]

As a Garmin ecosystem user, consider a few sold on my end for myself and multiple people in my family - I won't pay the whoop monthly fees, but I would put one on my grandparents and mom's wrist if Garmin had one. That $150 price point for health metrics would be excellent. They won't sleep with a watch on. Tried that.

[@jhansen22]

I’m sold! I would buy a comfortable wristband or ring for sleep while my watch could charge maybe “wirelessly” on a stand as well 😊

[@ericomarpaboncrespo6005]

I WOULD PRE ORDER IT THE MOMENT IT IS ANNOUNCE! I don’t like sleeping with my Epix but want the sleep data

[@connormurphy7142]

100%, would love to pair this up with my Fenix

[@prematheshdeva411]

Waiting exactly that from Garmin!

[@98408143]

YES YES YES. Come on Garmin, this is the product I’ve been waiting on for a couple of years now!! You’d better hurry, before I ditch my Garmin altogether and switch back to my old analogue watches that I miss, A LOT.

[@sklyarov]

I wanted this since the time of Nike FuelBand. Garmin was for activities and fuelband was for nikefuel.

[@romanmosli8023]

Absolutely agree! I currently use a garmin watch and a whoop band for exactely this reason…

[@PoonMcDoodle]

I agree with this. I've been using Whoop for the past year, but I've been wanting to switch to something that tracks HR and other fitness data better. I keep looking at the advanced Garmin watches but ultimately get turned off by the cost and screen. I'd love something exactly like what you're describing and I'm surprised there aren't more options like this out there.

[@mattmecham]

A 100% yes. Especially for us odd balls who love the Apple Watch for the LTE and the ability to replace your phone, but need the Garmin for it's better metrics, HRV tracking, etc.

[@daniels6554]

I emailed Garmin asking for exactly this about a year ago. The rep told me to make a submission on their site which I did. I'll take that commission when it happens!

[@HedgeFun35]

I'd love for Garmin to make something like this. I'd buy one right away

[@kawaquackygreen5977]

I’m a whoop user and wear both a garmin fenix and the band. Doing it all in one would be great and I’d certainly move over to it.

[@ZachGrabill]

I love that you want it and have the platform to lobby for it

[@brnxbmr]

Yes!!!!!!! I have been wanting this forever. I refuse to pay Whoops subscription and I'm already in the Garmin ecosystem. I want to wear my analog watches again.