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@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Once again my video sold out an Amazon listing. There are some available here at these links. amzn.to/48lgkBr amzn.to/4bF1JE4
@silatplayer
@silatplayer 7 ай бұрын
Link doesn’t work
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
@@silatplayer Second link does this one. amzn.to/4bF1JE4 It keeps selling out and changed constantly.
@RafaelSencion
@RafaelSencion 9 ай бұрын
Added this to my amazon list. I wanted a sprayer but didnt think it was worth it to get the fancier more expensive sprayers as average detailing enthusiast. This will certainly meet my needs.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It’s working well so far. We just don’t know longevity and durability yet.
@MarcYanOfficial
@MarcYanOfficial 9 ай бұрын
It's even good enough for professional use based on performance. But the durability is the unknown.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@MarcYanOfficial Somebody in the comments has had one for 6 months and has held up with acids and alkaline. Better than a Pressol could. 🤣
@MarcYanOfficial
@MarcYanOfficial 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav sold! I've had one in cart for awhile now. Do you think I could get away with foaming the entire car as a pre wash? Current living arrangements is preventing me from using a pressure washer setup. So just a garden hose at the moment.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@MarcYanOfficial it will work just will take some time and will probably have to be a little more conservative with the amount you use to get the whole car with one bottle. Also, need to be out of the sun due to how long it will take you to cover the car. You could do one panel at a time as well in bad conditions.
@michaelm2502
@michaelm2502 7 ай бұрын
Good video! I’ve been a professional detailer for 25 years and that foam gun with a rinse less wash solution is perfect for apartment and condo folks. Rinse less was a lifesaver for detailing my cars when we lived in a condo. Brilliant and scratch free if you are careful. Nice plush mitt and a rinse bucket and your set.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
Yeah, rinseless is a great process. I love to foam, but the rinseless process is a viable solution for sure.
@Autonomous15
@Autonomous15 4 ай бұрын
you say it's rinseless wash, but you use a rinse bucket? make sense please.
@victoryensured7137
@victoryensured7137 3 ай бұрын
Rinsless is the nectar of the Gear-head GODS! I will NEVER go back to regular soap maintenace washing, never
@joevanseeters2873
@joevanseeters2873 8 ай бұрын
FUZION rinseless wash from American Detail Garage is a FOAMING rinseless. It does have a very low dilution ratio compared to the rest of them with the 256:1 but if you want a foaming rinseless wash, FUZION is a good one. I heard you mention you like foam but don't like rinseless that much. FUZION may surprise you. It does everything all the other rinseless washes do such as clay lube, glass cleaner, interior cleaner, waterless wash, etc. I'm not sure what the new Labocosmetica rinseless wash (IDROSAVE) does foaming wise. Everyone who has tested the new Labocosmetica Idrosave say's it's the best rinseless wash they have ever used and these are long term detailing professionals. This battery powered sprayer looks pretty good actually for the money. I am in the market for one of these so I might pick this one up. Thanks for posting!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
I just don’t like to physically touch my cars after the contact. I prefer to pre-foam rinse foam again and contact wash then blow dry. I hate drying cars with towels. If I was running a business I would for sure be using rinseless for the efficiency and less water needed. DIY detail foams as well and I have used as a pre-rinse before and works good. I thought most rinseless were 256:1 at least the ones I have tried which is just ONR and DIY Detail.
@kosd5293
@kosd5293 9 ай бұрын
I wonder how it would hold up with P&S Brake Buster in it 24/7. I tried the IK framer but needing to pump it after every wheel or so made it inconvenient.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
We will know in a few months as that is what I am using in it. I have had some say they have had this for 6 months and used all types of chemicals and it held up just fine. Just the bottle likes to expand and contract like I showed.
@user-fe8pb6du5x
@user-fe8pb6du5x 8 ай бұрын
I got one. Put in Brake Buster 4:1 dilution. It foams, but the fan pattern is small. Not as big as your demonstration. Id say the fan spray is about 6 degrees, not like a 35 to 40 degree that I see in your demo.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
I’m running brake buster 5:1 and it’s less than what I’m showing as well, but wide enough to cover the tire in one round.
@alp3781
@alp3781 9 ай бұрын
Your video came upon me and I thank you. I love washing my Goldwing. Never knew they make them cordless in that size and I am an Amazon pretty big buyer. Ordering one of these. I would recommend to rinse them good with fresh water and run some via the pump too, before storage.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Agreed on proper storage, I like to push the limits to see what a product can handle if you treat it improperly. You know for research purposes. 🤣
@TSBG1
@TSBG1 9 ай бұрын
I was thoroughly impressed after receiving and testing mine, truly excellent little foamer!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Awesome, we just don’t know longevity yet with chemicals and abuse. We shall see in a few months.
@TSBG1
@TSBG1 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav Very true, I'm hoping it'll be a banger like all your content brother! Thanks for all you do Keav 💪
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@TSBG1 Thank You
@benjaminbrown7127
@benjaminbrown7127 9 ай бұрын
KZbinrs don’t understand how much it means to us when you respond to our comments. Thank you for making these videos. Love the channel. Thanks
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It may take me a few days sometimes, but I will get to them all! You're Welcome!
@aubreywhitley6889
@aubreywhitley6889 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for another great budget find. Especially for how bad the Griot's one worked. I just purchased the one with the 3 bumps on the bottom. I didn't like how the flat one bulged. I'll find a solution for the tippiness.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I’m looking at fixing the balance as well maybe what they use on di tanks. Since they are curved. They put a plastic ring that the bottle sits in and keep a nice flat surface.
@floridaredneck
@floridaredneck 8 ай бұрын
I agree, the flat looked better at first, but when you think about it, it's only going to be empty when you get it, so most of the time it's going to have liquid in it so the bump style seems more stable. I'm a detailer, so all my bottles are filled after each job anyway. You have to wonder how some designs make it to production. Morphing into a different shape when in use is a serious flaw.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
@@floridaredneck Function over form in this case. I guess you can say there is a reason coke and Mtn Dew bottles use the pronged style bottom. Carbonation causes the bottom to push out. Other liquids without the pressure have the flat bottoms like Gatorade. I think these would have been great with a 5 prong bottom instead of 3 which would have had way better balance.
@floridaredneck
@floridaredneck 8 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeavSure would have, but you can only change so much until physics takes over and you can't change the center of gravity without weight or width. For myself, I keep my bottles full mostly; of course they'll get low, but I try to keep them topped and always after a job. Plus, I hang my spray bottles in use on the side of my wash bucket off the ground, as long as the trigger system can handle it. That way I'm not kicking them over or catching them with the hose.
@englishdave8635
@englishdave8635 8 ай бұрын
Great babe thank you I had a really expensive pump sprayer from a detail company which wouldn’t hold enough pressure. This is perfect for my in between washes I do myself thank you mine will be here on Thursday and I got the second one had a better rating.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
Awesome, let us know how it goes. Takes a bit to get used to and dialing in your dilutions, but I live mine and use all the time.
@Pauli-COJ
@Pauli-COJ Ай бұрын
Hello, Thanks you for this product review. it makes quite a lot of foam even on a big dilution ration. I'm now considering buying one. How's the battery autonomy ? can you spray a normal size sedan with one charge ? How has its durability/reliability been 8 months after uploading this video ? Cheers, P.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav Ай бұрын
You callus easily do a whole car on one charge, but most likely would need to do multiple refills of the soap depending on how much you cover. Mine did finally stop working just the other day. I think the battery won’t charge anymore. I bought another one that’s on its way. Same type different color bottle with better reviews. amzn.to/3YsK2D6
@alanbeale1379
@alanbeale1379 9 ай бұрын
Great video thanks. What tool were you using to blow dry the car bonnet (hood) it looks like a hand held blower device?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It is the new Ryobi Handheld Brushless Blower. Just did a review video on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvXeaKJaJqYiLs
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
One thing to note if you leave air in it you may get a pin hole leak as I got today. At least I think that’s what happened. Could’ve been something I did but other than that I’ve had it for the last 6mo ans it’s been great, acid , alkaline, rimseless, apc whatever I threw at it. I did rinse it out after ever use ans release the air periodically because the bottom would bu bulging out from pressure. So occasionally while it’s sitting during the day I’ll release the air and it’ll go back to the normal shape of the container. Good video, great little tool.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Makes sense on holding the air. 6 months is actually a good life span with those kind of chemicals and the cost. You think that pinhole leak can be patched?
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav I’m gonna try for sure.
@briank.3539
@briank.3539 9 ай бұрын
Is it as loud in person as it appears on camera? Appreciate the video on these two items.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It’s not quiet that’s for sure. About what a small tire inflator sounds like. I just checked 80db at 3 feet.
@johndoe6032
@johndoe6032 9 ай бұрын
Very cool product, but I personally don't have any issues manually pumping up smaller bottles like that. I prefer it to the noise of the pump. hopefully they will eventually come out with a cheaper product to compete with the IK Foam Pro E 12. That is definitely overpriced and could be made much cheaper. I think the prices have come down lately and can be had for down to $250, but I think they could be made for under $200 easily.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
You could run your own inflator pump with some Velcro straps and do the E Pro 12 setup as low as $160 to $170. Way thing about the E pro though is it auto starts and stops. Not many inflators out there have an auto start they just auto stop. Here is a video I did on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2emmmaHqJqSaposi=a6ny0HGSmUrkYCv9
@Maytresha
@Maytresha 5 ай бұрын
please please tell if it can be used with water alone? to wash the dirt off the vehicle; thanks in advance!!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 5 ай бұрын
Absolutely you can, but won’t be as good as dedicated type sprayer that does just liquid spraying, but it makes this a good dual threat as it comes with the ability to change it to a liquid sprayer that doesn’t foam.
@johns4407
@johns4407 8 ай бұрын
Looks like you have the Ryobi Handheld 140MPH 220CFM blower. How you like it?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
I love it! Did a video on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvXeaKJaJqYiLssi=sSDnNKA34lbafwYq
@qualityofliving
@qualityofliving 9 ай бұрын
What kind of handheld air blower did you use? Great video!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
This one kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvXeaKJaJqYiLssi=ENw6IpHLxUUtjMaJ It’s very good for the size
@Rick4345
@Rick4345 9 ай бұрын
Didn’t know these existed. I live out in the country. We have a well, so there is not a lot of water pressure. Definitely will get one and take it with me when I go to town to wash my cars. Thanks!!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Dang that sucks, but glad there are new choices in todays world to help us all out regardless of our situation. have you thought about storing that water then using as a gravity feed or pump. Either would be more than enough flow for a pressure washer or water hose.
@mkynxtg
@mkynxtg 9 ай бұрын
Mine came in February 2nd and it’s pretty loud but it does the job fairly well.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, since you can’t build pressure it is a bit annoying since it runs constant.
@mkynxtg
@mkynxtg 9 ай бұрын
The usb c charging port is nice but i wish it’s cover cap was more secure.
@jlb3675
@jlb3675 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for a nice little budget buy. I am always looking for good hose nozzles too so that was a nice added tip.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
You bet
@derangedazrael2615
@derangedazrael2615 9 ай бұрын
Something I’ve noticed these bottles do is they expand and compress. Warm water usually helps bring them back to their original form.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I will have to check that out. Somebody else stated they sometimes go back to original form being left empty for a bit. I think like a silicone sleeve would work well. half on the bottle and the other part to keep a nice flat bottom.
@derangedazrael2615
@derangedazrael2615 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav nice, I just tried it with some of our general spray bottles and I think when they’re cooling down is when they start returning to the original form just leave the top open.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@derangedazrael2615 Good idea. I just noticed mine gained pressure just sitting the the shelf with a little sunlight hitting it.
@DonDomel
@DonDomel 9 ай бұрын
9:29 thick foam matter because of a product inside and nozzle, ok you can find a lot of good liquids what about the pressure of this if there is only 1/10 of liquid inside. How the machine pomp do not loose pleasure ?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Tha machine pump has to run the whole time and it provides more air than it sends out. Unlike some other products where it pumps way more air and has a lot of pressure and you can spray without running. You can see in the end where I see how long it runs it sprayed until it was empty. It will take a little longer to get going to fill the larger void with air though. They designed it just right because it works somehow.
@GameWithViiP3R
@GameWithViiP3R 9 ай бұрын
Wonder if you could change the nozzle to a mist instead of a foamer
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
If you can find the right size. I tried some of the ones I had in the garage and none fit.
@brian2851
@brian2851 9 ай бұрын
I bought one of these. How do you know when the pump is fully charged? My light just stays red.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Mine turns green when charged.
@freddychico3621
@freddychico3621 6 ай бұрын
does it require special soap?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 6 ай бұрын
No, but some soaps foam better than others.
@Auto-Bots.Custom.Detailing
@Auto-Bots.Custom.Detailing 9 ай бұрын
What hose head were you using? Thing was a beast.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
amzn.to/3SVokEZ It’s less that $20 too. I’ll have a comparison video out in a few weeks. I have 3 others I’m testing.
@augaureliusserious
@augaureliusserious 9 ай бұрын
Perfect little foamer. You don't have to use much product (1 oz) and you don't have to fiddle with portable air compressors. Just fill and spray. The auto on and off function is the real draw
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, I really like it as well. Bottle is not the greatest, but in this price range you’re not going to get everything you want.
@DMCnME
@DMCnME 9 ай бұрын
Same. I'm trying to like rinseless... got a gallon on Black Friday. But, it's just not fun for me. Seems like more work, which is probably lack of experience/user error. I'm all about summertime, tunes, a beer and foam :)
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
When you’re doing something that is not fun it always takes longer no matter how efficient or at least it feels that way. I also don’t like to touch my car during the drying process and that is a major component of a rinseless wash.
@ethanblan435
@ethanblan435 9 ай бұрын
I personally have much more fun with a rinseless especially in the summertime. I’m never having to rush and be worried about water spots and soap drying on the car like I would with a soap. To each his own
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@ethanblan435 It is for sure different for everybody. Myself with the garage the temp outside is never a factor. Before the gates when it was hot and sunny out I would just wait till it was dark outside or real early in the morning. To each his own for sure! As long as you’re having fun that’s all that matters.
@mitatcann
@mitatcann 2 ай бұрын
So which one is better? The one that costs $36 or the one with a flat bottom that costs $30?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 2 ай бұрын
I would not do the flat bottom as it expands under pressure. Not sure that’s good over a length of time. The one with the prongs is more structurally sound in my opinion.
@JohnD15317
@JohnD15317 9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the vid, interesting product 😅 what would you suggest as a dilution ratio using this sprayer with Brake Buster?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I used brake buster at 5:1 the other night and worked well. Same dilution I use in every product with brake buster.
@antonio1123
@antonio1123 9 ай бұрын
what foam soap did you use again? couldn't find it on the list of products.....thanks much.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Incredible suds by DIY Detail. Code CARSWITHKEAV saves 10%
@milazemay
@milazemay 9 ай бұрын
Is the charging light supposed to be green when fully charged?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it will be red while charging and will turn green when done.
@augaureliusserious
@augaureliusserious 9 ай бұрын
I bought 3 (so far). 2 of them arrive just today. Once I like something I'll just keep buying it until I lose interest
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I am the same way. 🤣
@mdsuave13
@mdsuave13 5 ай бұрын
what kind of ryobi blower is that?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 5 ай бұрын
Their new handheld 18v blower. It’s very good for its size. Made a video on it here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvXeaKJaJqYiLssi=1iJ1760cuv6kAf7H
@jeffreycaban5107
@jeffreycaban5107 8 ай бұрын
Is that the Orbit 26812 Hose Nozzle you're using?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
Yes it is
@robignatov
@robignatov 8 ай бұрын
I’ve been using one of these for a few months now and they work great, but use a lot of product compared to a spray bottle you spray by hand.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
Yes it does use a lot of product which I think is how it foams so well. So it’s one of those never perfect situations. LOL
@Zae_harris
@Zae_harris 3 ай бұрын
What up buddy can you you try the raincovo snow clear foam canon it come in the mail Saturday for me
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 3 ай бұрын
I reviewed the old one some time ago. The new one is very similar to the Powertown I tested in the below video just a different bottle. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n2rRiZ2Mh5eLmdEsi=twwkeV36IT4N4Zro
@PaWLO1501
@PaWLO1501 8 ай бұрын
Hey so what is the best ratio for this foamer in your opinion?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
I’m using 64:1 with Incredible suds, but really all depends on the chemical being used.
@jojolebleu9364
@jojolebleu9364 9 ай бұрын
Cheap Battery Foamer ($39) raised his price twice since you made this video
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I hate when they do that.
@J.R.F.23
@J.R.F.23 6 ай бұрын
The one if the left I got (2) of them. One for myself and one for my son. Mine works great!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 6 ай бұрын
Great to hear! Hope you enjoy them!
@krazyfiend
@krazyfiend 9 ай бұрын
I know you mentioned you have an upcoming video comparing four thumb drive all metal hose nozzles, but can you drop the name/link to the one in this video you showed off with no GPM limit?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Here you go amzn.to/4bBQ0pU and video should be out end of the week probably Thursday. This was my favorite of the bunch by far.
@alvin3502
@alvin3502 9 ай бұрын
Is there any attachments with no foaming action? I want to use it for rinseless
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I am sure there is one that fits, but I have not found one yet. Nothing I have in the garage fits right to do it.
@TheBizcuit0426
@TheBizcuit0426 9 ай бұрын
If rinsless would have foamed, I would have been sold. I use IK Foam Pro 12, and DIY rinsless does great in it following your video dilution from a while back. Still solid for those who do normal car wash soap.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
You remember that dilution? I think it was 32:1 as a pre-rinse? I’ll try again real quick. This was just 256:1
@TheBizcuit0426
@TheBizcuit0426 9 ай бұрын
@CarsWithKeav Yes, your dilution worked amazingly in my IK pro. I looked everywhere for someone to give that dilution, and you saved the day. I screenshot it on your video from awhile back.
@TheBizcuit0426
@TheBizcuit0426 9 ай бұрын
I 98% almost always do rinsless only these days. My garage is sealed concrete so no way to use pressure washer in my shop.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@TheBizcuit0426 I just tried with that dilution and it does way better, but not Ik pro 12 level foam. It did coat well, but very runny and the nozzle splattered a good bit.
@TheBizcuit0426
@TheBizcuit0426 9 ай бұрын
@CarsWithKeav thanks for the follow-up. You definitely didn't have to test again but I appreciate you did. Yeah I really didn't need the IK but it was a Christmas gift. I normally pre- treat using a 2 gallon Ryobi battery sprayer. There is plenty of power to blow out window seals or door jams. If needed I will use some All clean to pre treat lower panels but not really needed to often for my vehicles or paint enhancements I work on these days.
@wescat2
@wescat2 9 ай бұрын
Keav what a gem. I use Maniac Tire and Wheel in my IK. Nanoskin Tire and Wheel is a gem and $20/gal. Dilute 4:1 this would be perfect for that. Definitely getting one.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Nice, I need to expand my horizon on chemicals. I’m so focused on hardware I rarely try any other chemicals than what I’m used to.
@wescat2
@wescat2 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeavI love the hardware stuff. Maniac is the best I've ever used. 1:10 is strong. 1:5 is just crazy. I know it's Eddie's favorite too.
@ac7384
@ac7384 9 ай бұрын
What cabinets do you have
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Keter Pro Storage at Home Depot. They are plastic and sometimes hard to put together. Lots of pieces, but the metal reinforced shelves hold 100lbs which most shelves to not hold that much. I just prefer plastic over metal when it comes to getting splashed with water all the time as well. www.homedepot.com/p/Keter-35-in-W-x-74-in-H-x-18-in-D-Plastic-Freestanding-Cabinet-in-Black-217819/204638507
@Mark-hc6zx
@Mark-hc6zx 9 ай бұрын
Hi @CarsWithKeav. After watching your video I thought to give this a go to snow foam the whole car (BMW Z4). Just tried it today with 1 ounce of DIY detail Incredible Suds to 1.5L of warm water. Can I ask is it normal to run out of solution so quick? I get to empty in about 2 minutes. I have to refill to 1.5L again to do the whole car. Thanks
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I just tried it and you are right about 2.5 minutes and it’s empty. Probably why it foams so good is it is pushing a lot of liquid out. I myself have never been able to cover a whole car with 1.5L the least I have done is 3L. A lot of it depends on how thick of a layer you are spraying. For a whole car an IK Foam pro 12 is what I use. Holds 2 gallons and sprays all day. Several have shown me they buy two of these and dual wield them like pistols and do a whole car. I hit overkill though. Maybe diluting to 1/2 ounce for 1.5L that might give better coverage and allow to get more surface area with one bottle. A foam cannon will usually use at least a gallon to even 2 gallons of water and soap to cover a car.
@Mark-hc6zx
@Mark-hc6zx 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav Thank you for your reply and testing the timings, it's much appreciated. Now I know it's normal for the foamer. I was looking at the IK Foam pro 12 and even detail kegs but when I saw your video, I like you thought Wow!, it's cheap and produces great foam. over all I'm happy with it. Awesome find Keav.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@Mark-hc6zx Thanks, only problem is every time I find something like this they start raising the prices. 🤷‍♂️
@sinansahin6423
@sinansahin6423 9 ай бұрын
What soap were u using in the video ?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
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@eric6650
@eric6650 7 ай бұрын
How do I know which of the two is the better one with the flat bottom(not the one with the 3 sink holes so to speak). Amazon has so many of them.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
I’m liking the 3 sided bottom more as the flat bottom deforms with pressure. Neither are very balanced empty, but the 3 prong is much better full of liquid for me.
@eric6650
@eric6650 7 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeavhow about the clear bottle version by Groit? I think you made another video of 5 different ones. How’s that?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
Clear bottle one I don't use much its kind of big and just doesn't feel right. The Griots one is horrible.
@johnyuen6794
@johnyuen6794 9 ай бұрын
Hi Keav, I ordered one with the flat bottle bottom. On yours, do you have a gasket to seal the bottle to the top unit when you screw it togther? Mine is leaking air because it only foams on the tip and drips down when I try to spray. I also see bubbles coming out between the bottle and the unit. I think I got a lemon and will be returning mine.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I’ll have to look when I get back from vacation, but pretty sure there is a gasket in there. Unfortunately when we try these cheaper products the defect % is higher.
@mohammadatour8870
@mohammadatour8870 9 ай бұрын
6:13 which one is this? you have several links, but the one you use produces good foam, which model?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
All 3 listed are the same. SOme may have a different bottom design, but the top is the same. My first link sold out so I added some more as options.
@mohammadatour8870
@mohammadatour8870 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav thank you for your video it helped a lot.
@maryhoffman2547
@maryhoffman2547 9 ай бұрын
Miss the bloopers 😊 but the posing was fabulous 👌 😂 Thank you for sharing this product!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I for some reason breezed through this one without any mistakes. Very uncommon, but I had to show something. 🤣
@ryanpaul5604
@ryanpaul5604 8 ай бұрын
Is there a rinseless foaming wash that you recommend?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
DIY Detail is the foamiest one I know, but only foams good from a real foam cannon. There could be others out there I just don’t know of them.
@ryanpaul5604
@ryanpaul5604 8 ай бұрын
​@@CarsWithKeav I may try AMMO frothe but it's a bit pricey
@Jakepp235
@Jakepp235 9 ай бұрын
Do me a favor I'm having trouble finding your links I just bought the ego pressure washer and I want to get a 35 ft pressure washer water cable that goes to the handle so I have more room can you recommend one and any accessories I might need
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Here you go amzn.to/42LUHcx You should not need anything for this to work just transfer the quick connects from the EGO hose to this hose.
@xbrdyen9845
@xbrdyen9845 9 ай бұрын
I still dont get how dilution ratios work, I just ordered one of these foamers and I have with me Sonax Actifoam, how many millilitres would you consider ideal for the whole car? maybe 25 or 30ml? If the bottle has a capacity of 1.5L, what should be the max amount of shampoo and water? maybe just 1L?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
If doing a whole car you might have to do two bottle fills depending on how thick you lay down the foam. Watched a real quick video from Sonax and based on what they say I would start with 50ml of actifoam in the bottle and fill all the way to the max line of 1.5 Liters. Then you can change if you want more or less foam.
@xbrdyen9845
@xbrdyen9845 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav really appreciate you responding comments, thanks a lot i'll let you know how it goes once the foamer arrives
@xbrdyen9845
@xbrdyen9845 8 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav this is amazing lmao, only 40ML of Actifoam and the rest water, incredible results, thanks for making a video about this product, im thinking of buying more
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
@@xbrdyen9845 Awesome!
@alangraham4903
@alangraham4903 9 ай бұрын
hi what snow foam did you use for this video? looks great
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
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@alangraham4903
@alangraham4903 9 ай бұрын
smashing thanks!! also what dilution did you get it down to to what you personally thought that worked best for coverage?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@alangraham4903 I didn’t keep exact numbers since I was filling it up with water about halfway each time. 1/2 ounce of product (15ml) and fill to the max. Might need to adjust to your liking as well. Water quality could impact a good bit.
@alangraham4903
@alangraham4903 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav wow that foams amazing with just 15ml in. can't wait to get mine now after watching this video. maybe should not have bought the flat bottomed one now though 🤣🤣
@aghahari
@aghahari 9 ай бұрын
Just got mine. it's really nice. The design of the handle and the trigger reach is really odd. Couldn't be more uncomfortable honestly.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It has some quirks hopefully this selling well will bring some other designs to the market in this price range.
@s2kologist
@s2kologist 9 ай бұрын
Something like this could be cool for wheel cleaner. Can you put in a strong wheel cleaner and update us if it still works in a few months.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Somebody is the comments has been using one for 6 months and says they have put everything in it alkaline to acid and it has held up.
@s2kologist
@s2kologist 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav that's good to know
@wescat2
@wescat2 9 ай бұрын
Keav in researching this. The one you have linked for $39.99 is the only one I've seen with a 4500mah battery. Almost all the others are 2600mah. It appears to be 20-30 min vs 50-60 min. Either way. I got one. Should be fun.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Had no idea and I also just saw a newer listing that doesn’t even say the MAH, but says it’s 20 minutes run time. Who knows I had two of them and might have mixed them up. 🤣
@wescat2
@wescat2 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav I couldn't figure out why one was double the price. No we know :) Watching a ton of your older vids. Great stuff.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@wescat2 Appreciate that!
@BK12344
@BK12344 9 ай бұрын
can you use something like that on an entire car? I ask this bc I dont have a pressure machine and anytime I hook up a form bottle to a garden hoes it never forms up really thick. any suggestions ?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
For a garden hose the Gilmour 1-12 oz garden hose foamer is the best you can do to get foam without a pressure washer. It will flow 3x more soap than just about any garden hose foamer. This would do a whole car, but you would have to be very frugal and coverage would not be good without refilling multiple times. For a whole car I would suggest the IK Foam Pro 12 which holds 2 gallons and can be fed with compressed air, has its own battery pump accesory or you can us a tire inflator ti keep it running. Here is a video on the Gilmour kzbin.info/www/bejne/rXTHmp1nYrV6qc0 and another on the IK Foamers using inflators kzbin.info/www/bejne/q2emmmaHqJqSapo
@BK12344
@BK12344 9 ай бұрын
that you so much for that information, I just came across the vid you did using the black and yellow battery pump and I think im going to buy that and use on my car.@@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@BK12344 That one is pretty good and holds 2 liters so more chemical. I have covered a whole car before with 2 lites so it is possible.
@USMCSSgtRetired
@USMCSSgtRetired 9 ай бұрын
Ordered about 7 hours ago when the listing said 18 left in stock, now shows unavailable. You helped them sell out! Side note-the listing says the blue button on the side can be pressed to pressurize the unit to 2 bar after a couple seconds. Did you try that rather than pressurizing via the trigger?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I’ll have to give it a try. In testing all it did was relieve built up pressure, but maybe it can do two things. Hope I didn’t overlook something.
@USMCSSgtRetired
@USMCSSgtRetired 9 ай бұрын
Cool. The image on the Amazon listing shows two arrows on the button, so I wonder if one direction relieves the pressure and the other builds it. Thanks!
@USMCSSgtRetired
@USMCSSgtRetired 9 ай бұрын
So I just got mine from Amazon and the side button, although it has two arrows on it, only pushes in straight and only functions to relieve the pressure, not to build pressure. Too bad, but it’s still a great buy.
@Weeem
@Weeem 8 ай бұрын
I did a search on UK amazon and picked one up for £17.70 Perfect for SurfexHD before the main foam. Nice
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
Awesome! There are listings for these all over the place. In the U.S. there must be 10 different listings for different prices.
@jfletcher1029
@jfletcher1029 9 ай бұрын
This is why three pronged bottom is used for all carbonated drinks in plastic bottles.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Makes perfect sense.
@jfletcher1029
@jfletcher1029 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav actually the four pronged bottom is used for better stability! (As you found out with your three pronged)
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@jfletcher1029 the more prongs the better. Mtn. Dew bottles use 5 I think.
@alexordonez6494
@alexordonez6494 9 ай бұрын
What water nozzle is that?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Ridge washer nozzle. amzn.to/3uBWF2t
@fligreen4896
@fligreen4896 6 ай бұрын
Thank you for your recommendation, I found a more affordable electric foam sprayer.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 6 ай бұрын
Nice!
@ColtonArgyle
@ColtonArgyle 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video I've been trying to find an electric one for a hot minuet and everything I come across is just sketchy and untrustworthy because of the lack of information on them and very little videos of good trustworthy quality play a part in it to so thanks.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 5 ай бұрын
You’re Welcome! There are few really good high quality ones out there. This is the best I have seen and still has a few things I would like to be more durable. IK sprayers are coming out with battery operated sprayers and foamers at the end of the year. They will not be cheap though.
@mthusiastmedia9782
@mthusiastmedia9782 9 ай бұрын
I was perky looking at the reviews on this yesterday to bring to Orlando lol. Think I’m gonna order it and have it sent to our house down there.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I’m going lean on the cleaning supplies. Just Microfibers and Waterless wash. Small blower in case we in the rain Saturday morning while loading in for VIP.
@carbomonis
@carbomonis 6 ай бұрын
What foam u use
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 6 ай бұрын
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@cv6473
@cv6473 8 ай бұрын
I hardly doubt that's usb c, It might be a usb c connector but that doesnt mean that it's a ture usb c charging cability.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
USB C connector of course. I don’t think anybody is arguing that this thing is running real usb-c. A lot of these types of devices use proprietary connector so having a usb c connector is a plus. You lose that proprietary connector charging cable you might be out of luck if it’s usb-c you can just use another cable around the house.
@The_Cyberz
@The_Cyberz 9 ай бұрын
How loud is it? It sounds obnoxiously loud.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It is noisy, but not to me compared to say using a leaf blower to dry the car. I use for wheel & tire cleaner so it doesn’t run very long at one time for me.
@ivanreed-qj7uz
@ivanreed-qj7uz 9 ай бұрын
I use apump up garden sprayer..works great.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
That’s great and those tend to last longer as well. I like my pump IK sprayer as well I just like that I don’t have to pump anymore.
@elevenbravo9742
@elevenbravo9742 8 ай бұрын
TY, I ordered the tri foot one off Amazon.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
It’s much more stable than especially when full hood choice. Wish they had a 5 foot one would have been much more stable.
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
Don’t store it with air tho that little bottle will continue to grow out at the bottom and round the biotin out. So yeah great video like I said it also fits other bottles but they need to be crush proof.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice and great info on the durability of this product. I think I might get some kind of silicone or plastic sleeve to fit around the bottom kind of like the FRP spotless tanks have.
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav that’s a great idea
@yatumux
@yatumux 9 ай бұрын
I just wondering is this one works with car wax too ? 🤔
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
If you mean a spray wax I would stick to a sprayer that mists really well. Most liquid wax has no foaming ability for this to spread evenly.
@Pittsburgh-412
@Pittsburgh-412 9 ай бұрын
I immediately bought that garden hose nozzle 😂. That looks better than my fireman nozzle for sure
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I’m about to film the comparison video and initial testing most of these limit GPM to 2.5 to 3.5, but that bad boy does not. LOL
@stvcrgy55
@stvcrgy55 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a great foamer for the money. Think I'll have to order one.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It’s a segment of the industry that has been missing a budget friendly version. Hopefully this starts a trend.
@stvcrgy55
@stvcrgy55 9 ай бұрын
@CarsWithKeav I have the SPTA and it does the job but nothing wrong with having 2. They'll be used for mostly wheels.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@stvcrgy55 Brake Buster 5:1 dilution ate through the gasket on mine and leaked everywhere. Need to get a new gasket and fix it just have not had the time to deal with it. You can’t buy them anymore except for maybe eBay right now.
@Dantastic123
@Dantastic123 6 ай бұрын
I tried to buy one of these because of your video. After about a week or so, i got a refund that said it was confiscated by Customs. So i guess i can't get one.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 6 ай бұрын
Several have said the same thing. Did they refund you? I am seeing this exact sprayer now on at least 3 other listings now.
@Dantastic123
@Dantastic123 6 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav I got a email from the seller AND from Amazon saying they refunded, so I assume they did. However, I have not yet checked my credit card statement. I'll just assume they did for now.
@kyfisher3662
@kyfisher3662 7 ай бұрын
this is perfect for pushbike and motorbikes!
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
That is a great idea!
@LouMichaels-k3u
@LouMichaels-k3u 2 ай бұрын
JUST RELEASED: BRAND NEW SPTA Pressure Foam Sprayer. PLEASE DO A REVIEW ON THIS NEWEST MODEL.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 2 ай бұрын
Its on order just waiting for it to deliver. Doesn't look as good as I would expect from them though, but we shall see especially at that price.
@kawzx777
@kawzx777 9 ай бұрын
Glad 2 see a review on this. I've had it saved on my Amazon fav list for awhile now 👍
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It surprised me at how well it does. There are some in the comments that have had it for months running all kind of chemicals and it is still doing well.
@looneybinsx8193
@looneybinsx8193 6 ай бұрын
i dont see the one with a flat bottom tho
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 6 ай бұрын
It seems just about the only ones being sold now have the three prong bottom. Probably due to the flat one kind of bowing out under pressure.
@mattyboy0293
@mattyboy0293 9 ай бұрын
Could you reach down and press the red button alone to maybe pressurise the system before spraying your foam ?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I just tried and yes that works. One could spend an afternoon and figure out a clever process just make sure the bottle does not hold a lot of pressure like say the IK ones do. I assume that is why its designed that way to keep just enough pressure to run it.
@sandoutlaw85
@sandoutlaw85 9 ай бұрын
I literally just bought that same foam sprayer about 3 weeks mine came in like 2 days it's a good foamer I was wondering when I would see your video about it lol
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
It’s perfect as a wheel and tire foamer. Let us know how it works for you.
@BK12344
@BK12344 8 ай бұрын
I was really excited to get the blk and yellow auto form sprayer, and I was extremely extremely disappointed! didn't form my car up the way u did it to the hood. it barley spit out the thick layer either. I ended up throwing it away, wht a waste of $80
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
What soap and dilutions did you use? Just trying to figure out why. Was the little filter present in the nozzle?
@BK12344
@BK12344 8 ай бұрын
I filled the water all the way to the top then put the soap (Adams Ultra Foam) I didn't measure but I put enough. @@CarsWithKeav
@iamsam8446
@iamsam8446 9 ай бұрын
Interesting, but I prefer the IK for about the same price.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
IK is a great item. I just am too lazy to pump so I did take a foam pro 2+ and added a battery inflator so I don’t have to just costs $100 in the end.
@casmithc2
@casmithc2 9 ай бұрын
I think I will stick to my pump sprayer until my arm stops working.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣, I’m just too lazy!
@casmithc2
@casmithc2 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav They seem to work well. How long do they take to Charge?
@tigerrider6711
@tigerrider6711 8 ай бұрын
This looks so handy, getting one for cleaning the shower
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 8 ай бұрын
That is a great idea. If you have any chemicals like bleach make sure to leave no pressure in the bottle when done.
@randywakefield2770
@randywakefield2770 4 ай бұрын
I got one after seeing this video. Every time I use it the tank blows off from the power head. Have you ever heard of this
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 4 ай бұрын
Blows off meaning after a bit or when it starts running? Wondering if the pressure relief is going off to soon or the head is not threading right and not dealing.
@valentingarcia4137
@valentingarcia4137 7 ай бұрын
i think best eletric foamer bought black yellow foamer this one has bigger fan and throws more foam
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
The Black and Yellow one is very good!
@valentingarcia4137
@valentingarcia4137 7 ай бұрын
bought both white/blue and black yellow because of your channel to compare them for myself i liked the blue with white what about you?
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
@@valentingarcia4137 I like the balance and bottle of the yellow and black one. White and blue one I think sprays better since it’s using compression and not an electrical pump.
@tenjho101
@tenjho101 9 ай бұрын
can you foam the entire car with it ??
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
You for sure could. You would not be able to have a really nice thick layer everywhere due to not having enough soap inside that would be the one factor. Battery is plenty for it. I myself wouldn’t use for the whole car, but it could be done. Just would take a long time.
@Ecdetails
@Ecdetails 9 ай бұрын
Trust this dude everything so far has been a hit good video ❤
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Appreciate that Eddie!
@Ecdetails
@Ecdetails 9 ай бұрын
T@@CarsWithKeav They better by that bearforce before its 80 bucks
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
@@Ecdetails It will go up only a matter of time.
@ThisOldDetailingDude
@ThisOldDetailingDude 9 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Keav! I just purchased another item I must hide from the boss. 😂😂😂😂. Great review. Keep this content going! Love your channel
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
I invested in credit card companies because of you and me. 🤣🤣🤣
@ThisOldDetailingDude
@ThisOldDetailingDude 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav 😂. I placed my order while watching your video
@victoryensured7137
@victoryensured7137 3 ай бұрын
I want to buy it but i just bought IK Foam Pro 2+ :(
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 3 ай бұрын
You can add an inflator to the 2+ and it will be better than this one.
@bmer6682
@bmer6682 9 ай бұрын
forget the sprayer, i need to know what hose nozzle that was! lol
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
In the description can’t remember the name, but I’ll have the comparison video out soon. I have not tried them all yet.
@AdrianJayeOnline
@AdrianJayeOnline 9 ай бұрын
but I love that hose attachment
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Its pretty nice. Doing a hose sprayer battle video soon that will highlight it.
@howardlalala3699
@howardlalala3699 7 ай бұрын
I bought one based on your review. Thanks.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 7 ай бұрын
Let us know how it goes.
@howardlalala3699
@howardlalala3699 7 ай бұрын
​@@CarsWithKeav gave it a test after 2 weeks, thick foam but my lance pattern wasn't as wide as yours, any idea how I can improve it? Thanks.
@fireball7671
@fireball7671 9 ай бұрын
Hey what was that hand held blower you used around the 8:56 mark? Thanks so much.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Just did a video on it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eqvXeaKJaJqYiLs
@fireball7671
@fireball7671 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav Thanks man!
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
Nice, I’ve been using these for the last 6mo I got a few different types.
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
The standby time on the batteries is great on these units, I also have the Bear force type and the battery died after one use. But so far it’s been great, also used Acid and Alkaline. It’s a great little unit.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Nice! 6 months is longer than a lot of products would last.
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
So. Dry durable with chemicals that’s good. I have the solo sprayer and it’s been a year and I have charged it maybe once. Battery life and standby is so good on that, but then they stop the bigger version and come out with a smaller head with less battery.
@AmirAbdullah
@AmirAbdullah 9 ай бұрын
@@CarsWithKeav I bought the solo a while back it broke on me at the neck.
@Nick210
@Nick210 9 ай бұрын
Why wouldn’t you just get a IK 1.5 for less money
@CarsWithKeav
@CarsWithKeav 9 ай бұрын
Because having options is always better. Show products and how they work so people can make informed decisions. The one listing I used they bumped the price up. This type of device can be found for $30 to $35. Plus I don’t want to pump and I have multiple IK sprayers several modified to use inflators so I don’t have to pump.
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