Cheaper and Better Than a Hellcat? 2019 Dodge Challenger R/T Scat Pack Preview

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[@johnholst]

Whereas the Mustang and Camero have sorta turned into sports cars, this Challenger is still a muscle car/GT car. It looks, sounds and drives like nothing else on the road. Gotta give FCA credit for building something like this! It's pretty cool.

[@sstevocamaro]

John Holst What is a Camero? Is that made in the U.S.?

[@johnholst]

Sorry. I meant Camaro! lol!

[@zTheBigFishz]

This is the right comparison. The Challenger is really the only muscle car left. The wide body is a huge improvement for these cars. They don't have enough rear tire in narrow body trim which makes them look like crap from the back.

[@millionairemindset1136]

Dodge had a sports car called the Viper but, these new dodge fans like four door crap and only want heavy ass vehicles. Shout out to my real sports cars guys owning the Viper!!!! Hellcat my ass. Smh I’m glad Chevy is doing the corvette the right way. Poor Dodge they making money on these fools buying these heavy ass car that hasn’t changed in the last couple of years.

[@mariek6993]

well said! Its all about what you want. Im happy if its just american now a days. Love ford, chevy and dodge.

[@GamerNRetro]

I love my Mustang but I have a soft spot for those 392s.

[@robertdevito5001]

Cryptoholder818 some cars do a good job of preventing you from loving them

[@JohnnyUtah86]

GamerNRetro me too.

[@gothicwarcry]

I loved my mustang until I owned a 392

[@edisonmoten7385]

I love my MUSTANG, too.. but what I like about the challenger is that, it has way more room.. lol

[@glenn4110]

I think I'm finally going to jump off the mustang wagon and try a Challenger. This widebody available to the average guy is awesome. Dodge is killing it these days. Thanks for covering it!

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Ford nut you’ll never go back

[@fread51]

Good luck with that bass boat

[@focused313]

I can't jump ship, but I see why guys do it. You can fit your family in several FCA vehicles and still get 400+ hp

[@rezzo_6fn659]

I think the charger is the better between the two. Do a mid muffler delete and you won’t regret it!

[@josephmendozajr8993]

6k option tho :/

[@MrNurse-cr1lq]

Oh man. So many good colors!

[@DeeboComing]

Their color selection is amazing. The B5 Blue, the Octane Red, the F8 green, the Destroyer Grey, the Plum Crazy, and the Indigo Blue all look amazing!! Honestly, i would be satisfied with either one of those colors as long as the car has black wheels and a nice tint job.

[@MBNY642]

Love to see these two dudes together after long time. Thanks tfl

[@3kbaby823]

Only real muscle left

[@donhill4501]

I sold my 2010 4lt Corvette GrandSport for a Charger 392 and I have to say I'm very pleased with my decision.

[@chadharmon5716]

Good to see you two working together it's been a while

[@zstidsen]

I'm driving a friends 2019 scat pack charger for the week down in FL. I gotta say that this car is the most bang for the buck. Keep in mind that well equipped, it's going to be a lot more than $40k...

[@teddysliftworld]

This used to be my dream car and kind of still is.

[@bobjohnson7972]

Teddy's Lift World my god it’s fucken ugly as hell

[@Welcometofacsistube]

Bob Johnson not talking about your mom, dude

[@teddysliftworld]

I kind of meant my realistic dream car. I know I'm probably not going to own a Bugatti Chiron.

[@msalazar89]

Teddy's Lift World me too, its sick

[@theshield1613]

Teddy's Lift World You could if you go to Qatar or UAE Most people own super cars and they sell them very cheap because they are very wealthy people I saw some pictures they have some super cars abandoned. one day I'm going over there to get a super car for very cheap.

[@cascivic]

get the scat pac, play an MP3 of supercharger whine,...save 40k :)

[@Shiftnlift]

cascivic lmaooooo

[@pechmichaelchristina2640]

“Augmented “ like fords lol

[@grandfinish2364]

Yesssss! I love it!! Bahahahaha!!!

[@GettingthruLife]

Or in couple years save and add Whipple.

[@robertdevito5001]

I personally like the sound better because it doesn't have super charger whine, naturally aspirated has the best sound in my opinion.

[@revmatchproductions]

The 0-60 on the 1320 is faster than the manual Hellcat. Pretty mind blowing to say the least, 3.7 vs 3.9. Another thing, the widebody is NOT under 40k! A base model cloth seats scat pack is under 40k. There are 0 bare bones scat packs on the dealer lots. If u want one for 39k brand new you have to build and order it yourself, otherwise youll spend 50k easy

[@masonhopkins1892]

True my 2018 scatpack with option cost 45k

[@devn3813]

Everyday Muscle I’ve never seen a manual hellcat do below 4.5 0-60

[@leehancock2782]

Koons in DC keeps lots of bare bones scat packs. I got my 17 there.

[@triple3892]

Great video thanks guys. I picked up a new 18 max steel charger scat pack 6 weeks ago and it gets a ton of attention . I love how it looks and sounds!

[@bergerone3]

I was at a concert in Portland and I was driving by like "that's a sweet new Challenger", then I see this. Can't believe I missed them haha

[@dannera5359]

Great T-shirt Nathan. One of the greatest bands EVER.....The car not bad as well.

[@otx4life885]

Destroyer Grey and Indigo Blue are the two best colours on this beast

[@teller1290]

indigo very underrated. I have a Chevy SS ('17) in Slipstream Blue. I hated blue cars before that one but I still want a Challenger! I've been a miser my whole work life and at 57, I'm thinking (incredibly) about buying Challenger WITHOUT selling beloved SS! If I take such a plunge, I can't get two blues...or can I? I love that green though and the purple hot, too.

[@aussie2uGA]

When you’re a manufacture pumping out a ton of “shells”, it’s nice to see them be able to somewhat customize and market them differently.

[@koolkitties8552]

The plum crazy is awesome and B5 blue. And there's no way its under 40k. More like 45 to 48k.

[@Tareaque]

Karo French I bought a 15 rt plus and it's only been going on 3 yrs and already dodge changed this car it's like a slap in the face at least wait until 10yrs. To me it's like why bother same hp all over again with different fascias

[@unjaded2]

why wait ten 10 yrs to make improvements ? its called marketing . trade in yours for a newer model and stop ur bitching

[@robertdevito5001]

Black Empowerment is that damn time thing making you have booboo on your brain brain again? You're entitled to better things than having to deal with reality right? New things get old, old things get older, don't want yesterday's car? Buy a classic, it was yesterday's car 40 years ago, now it's a classic, next year it will be... A classic, nothing's changed.

[@koolkitties8552]

Any HEMI Base price means nothing extra including tech so theyre still like 45 or more where I live.

[@paulmcadam6825]

Great video! You just got a new subscriber. All the way in Guyana, South America.

[@jorgecortes3453]

just bought a 2016 Scat pack from my brother, gave me a nice deal, he bought it brand new in November 2016 for 47K all extras available included. I love this car!

[@mavricxx]

Love the color selection and the updates!. Makes me wish I'd waited instead of getting my'18 Mustang GT but I can't complain I love my Stang.

[@RTLife]

It is really an awesome ride, but no it's not better then a hellcat! Those 392's sound great

[@edwhitmore4107]

R/T Life in da house

[@3kbaby823]

Well no shit it’s a R/T not a 707 hp beast

[@RTLife]

this is response to the title of the video ACE

[@waltscrossfiresrt6]

I seen a few head cam scatpacks and i say i was shocked low 11s at 122 to 124mph those are hellcat numbers but a stock slow hellcat so a 392 is actually a good value

[@HouseLightweight]

I'd say it's more like an SRT without the magnetic ride suspension and badges.

[@mattbeazer5896]

"Reserve grip at the rear" is Engineer speak for "we made it understeer more". More roll stiffness up front with the same/softer setup at the rear = understeer. I guess if you like the front end to plow relentlessly this is fine. It's also good for the FCA lawyers as it will help keep weekend track warriors who don't know what they're doing from looping it into a wall when they lose the rear end.

[@SZUSEast1]

Good god that redeye has 220 on the dash!!! IM IN LOVE!!!

[@The3751FAN]

That plum crazy purple is still the best color

[@chrishughes4827]

I am so impressed with my 392 widebody scat pack . Handles like it's on rails ! Sounds thunderous! Unbelievable!

[@The101Point1]

I used to have a fully loaded plum crazy Scat Pack in 2016 loved it probably going to buy another one soon if I can't get a Hellcat

[@HHTV60]

Thanks for the video. I just traded my 2017 Ford Mustang V6 for a 2018 Dodge Challenger R/T 392 Scatpack with a 6 speed Tremec - it's a hell of a car! In terms of Mustangs, it's on the same level as Mustang GT 350, for a whole bunch less money!

[@JGCSRT]

No widebody Charger? I have kids to think about.

[@virgogang9458]

lmao

[@chrisaugust6502]

They say the challenger has ample room for five adults, so.. get to folding that seat forward ;)

[@davidderber6013]

Rear seat delete costs $1 and kids love playing in empty boxes; throw an empty box back there for them, they will have the time of their lives, and some badass stories to tell their grandchildren.

[@ChallengerGuy22]

They say the widebody charger is coming I guess we'll see...

[@arcxero1]

I have a 2017 sxt and you can easily fit larger adults in the 2 bucket seats in the rear, but there's ample room for my 2 kids back there with their backpacks and stuff

[@AdmiralGrafSpee100]

These new challanger widebodys are amaizing.

[@KCars]

Awesome review!

[@ronaldjones62]

Great looking car. Seen a 2018 challenger few days ago with the front splitter and side rockers painted and it looked freaking great, I would have to do the same.

[@prymtym8661]

i got a scat pack 6 spead 3 weeks ago, when i tell you this car is fun to drive!!

[@Sky1]

I drove one last week, ride was very firm and handling was very good.

[@scatpack1381]

Nice video. PS love the band Rush on your shirt.

[@pascalflor]

When wanting to buy either a 2018 SRT or 2019 Scat Pack, which one would you recommend?

[@Basslightning666]

I own a 2021 narrow body version of this car in a different color... Absolutely love everything about it, a true muscle car, but witrh AC and better handling than the originals....lol

[@The_Hulkster]

Great to see this much needed refresh. Curious how the new Challenger will be styled for 2020. I drive a ZL1 1LE myself but I do like the GT350 and Hellcats. They're great at straight line performance.

[@greesemonkey1233]

I have a premium eco boost and I love the way it looks and the interior so I thought of upgrading to a gt but these scat packs are looking better for the price it’s at

[@BrewBlaster]

Destroyer Gray is J B Weld Gray to me.

[@tinpandawg]

Oh for fuks sake I love me some Dodge Challenger!!!!!!

[@eliteoutlaw3210]

Thank you guys for the video. I am getting my challenger next year for my 40th birthday. I was curious about the new scat pack because I was in love with the SRT 392. They will give you 392 options but its still just a scat pack with the same badges and steering wheel. So thanks for the video. I will look for a left over or used SRT 392 or a left over Scatpack.

[@FIVEOFEVER]

That's the best strategy if you don't care about the wide body option...Besides you an always do after market suspension mods later without killing the warranty

[@mustangtony2933]

Mustang guy here....but that purple scat pack is cool. Love the bee on the dash and how is scats away...pretty f'ng cool.

[@christophec3653]

Is the stock sound system and good or is the upgraded to Harmon kardon inevitable?

[@crimson49er]

proper muscle car, i love it :)

[@zguy-cz8zi]

Go niners boy!!! 💯🤘

[@pacmanfrankster1133]

Well I'm a big fan of 392 Scat Pack with at least 485HP that comes with a 6.4L V8 with a shaker only

[@GoGoOpie]

Very informative video but would love to hear that engineer from Dodge compare the new Scat Pack widebody suspension to the active suspension on my SRT 392 tho.

[@richardlong8014]

I was on the fence between Mustang GT and Scat Pack. The GT cost a lot less than the Wide Body but...I already had 3 GT's since 2006. Time for a change. No regrets. 2021, 6 spd Shaker, WB, Triple Nickle.

[@ghostking0019]

I really like the new widebody lineup and hopefully they drive as good as they look, I know you can't say anything yet but just stating is all

[@LongRangeDesertGroupX]

I actually think I might look into buying one of these, big fan of the hell cat look without the hell cat price and the wide body is a huge bonus.

[@dickdouche2738]

Love the colors

[@nigolt.4345]

Damn these engineers are just brilliant!!!. They deserve so so much credit for creating these killer products.

[@martinscocan5221]

Ok, Nice review but I´m watching this August 12th, where can I see the Full review with opinions on how it drives, acceleration comparisons between this car and the Hellcat and Redeye.... common guys, lots of fun work left for you to do. Thanks and keep up the Good Work!!

[@DYhondaman]

exactly how id spec it, besides the radio upgrade and the auto trans, also all seasons really?

[@TheKacper2001]

I’d go for wide body only for looks. Is it decently comfortable for every day use?

[@Croak1]

Comfort (and space) is one of the best features of a Challenger vs something like a Mustang or Camaro. Not sure what the new suspension tuning is going to do to the street comfort of the Widebody Scat Pack, but I suspect it'll still be pretty tolerable.

[@TheKacper2001]

Sounds fine, how about wind and tire noise?

[@jamesvelez593]

It's a beautiful ride, comfortable for long trips. And fun af!

[@TheKacper2001]

So I'm gonna buy it, in my dreams.

[@adrianwillemse9305]

How does it compare to a 2018 scat pack 392 TA With the full suspension?

[@bryanlecuyer5685]

I had a 2019 B5 scat pack wide body for 3 months. I traded for a 2018 wide body hellcat. I pick it up this Thursday.

[@mango010]

Dat Rush t-shirt 👌🏾

[@shane401]

I had a 2012 challenger R/T in white with black stripes. It looked good but didnt have any balls coming from my 2006 Pontiac gto.. now with kids sports cars are gone and I have a 13 Ram hemi and a 15 Durango limited. Didnt plan on it but fell in love with dodge

[@Agent.K.]

Shane Smith Why sports cars are gone? Just wait until the kids have their own cars and you can get back in the game!

[@rezzo_6fn659]

Shane Smith or get a Charger

[@msalazar89]

Shane Smith charger scat pack dude

[@andyharman3022]

What road course is that? I didn't know there were any in New Hampshire. It's in a very picturesque setting, but looks like it has short straights.

[@revnto7k]

The exact way I'd want a Challenger if I could afford one.. Widebody 392 R/T... Looks awesome!!!!!

[@scrumchy1]

Under 40k is the sweet spot for this enthusiast. Time to make my day dream a reality

[@Moondoggy1941]

Are they still building the bright blue Challenger with a Hemi? If so how much?

[@Dialysisforever]

What do you guys think of the new wheels? I am partial to the old Hellcat wheels.

[@robertb1742]

Nathan 😆😂 keep ‘em coming

[@djuell01]

I love the wide bodies! Don't forget the biggest thing you save with the Scat Pack vs Hellcat is the $$$$ on insurance. :)

[@birdflight2378]

My dream car is the 2019 hellcat redeye widebody 💯

[@Lokis12-2]

Hell yeah driving to my home state awesome!

[@FrankyRedEyes]

Nathan driving the scat pak around the hemisphere! I was in a RUSH to watch this video. Glad you didn't film in a subdivision and chose the open road which is much closer the heart of enthusiasts.

[@NathanDAdlen]

daviesakiller Best comment of the week!

[@thisismagacountry1318]

daviesakiller I'LL KILL A PUNNER, but Nathan is a Working Man after all. Glad he didn't wrap this fine Barchetta around The Trees. A car this nice deserves a proper Anthem. It's time for me to bid Farewell to Kings so I'll Exit Stage Left.

[@FrankyRedEyes]

Rumpa Stiltskin normally i would agree with you about leaving punners with no Vital Signs but these are special Circumstances. Plus you would be the only person left in the Limelight to offer Lessons of Rush puns to the masses. 😅😅😅😅

[@BrendanMacWade]

A fantastic value. A lot of people would be happy with this over the Hellcat.

[@hustlegame5069]

That Supercharger was screaming😍

[@tbuddy3372]

AWD THESE BIG HEAVY MACHINES THESE CARS HAVE SOME OF THE WORLDS MOST POWERFUL ENGINES HANDS DOWN. If you want to make a iconic car that will have a strong resale and legendary presents in the car world the only answer is "awd".

[@evanderlugops]

Can't do fat burnies with awd.

[@laurenceeng]

RUSH RULES!

[@bosse641]

Sure looks cool.

[@slapnasty5183]

Im ordering 20x11's for my 2019 scat pack charger 21w dynamics package

[@kevg1869]

God, I would love this car forever.

[@bryanlecuyer5685]

I just bought one here in Canada , I get it Monday. Oh by the way. Great shirt buddy. Rush !

[@ignignxkt]

So happy plum crazy is back. I got 3 years left on this loan before I can move up.

[@hemihead392]

Ok....waiting for the follow up on this! Want to see the uncensored version and what you really think!

[@dabeatboxer83]

I like the 392..i got the scat charger myself. I chose it over the hellcat cuz I'm not a huge fan of forced induction. I bet the 392 naturally aspirated will last longer than supercharged engine...plus the 1st 5 gears are quicker than the hellcat.

[@elikinzie23]

Sounds so much better naturally aspirated. Always hated the hellcat for the supercharger whine

[@frankmmiii]

I have a 2021 Challenger Scat Pack Widebody T/A edition in Gold Rush. I bought it with 3,000 miles on it, and only put another 250 so far. It is a beautiful car and handles like it is on rails with everything in Street Mode except the steering, which is in Sport Mode. I have yet to push it harder as I'm driving on back country roads that are somewhat traveled and populated, so I keep the speed within reason. The previous owner had an aftermarket AWE Track Edition exhaust that really makes the car look and sound even more aggressive while adding around 15hp and 12ft lbs of torque. I haven't had it dynoed, and I'm guessing nothing was done as far as tuning the car(I hope) so the factory warranty should still be intact. He also ordered it with the Stripe Delete and Spare Tire Delete for the upgraded Harmon Kardon system with the amp and subwoofer that sit right where the spare would've gone. All in all, I am very happy with my new to me Challenger.

[@garybishop4030]

The Challys aren't available with spare tires in the Brembo models. It doesn't fit in the space where the stereo is.

[@sarrum7696]

Awesome cars! :)

[@boltonic]

What app is that called again that you mention at the end?

[@TFLcar]

Driveline

[@RalHellcat]

Next Wed has come and gone. Can you tell us how it drives now?

[@iAlwaysNeverWlN]

Help decide. 2015 stingray, 2017 zl1 or 2019 scatpack widebody????

[@iAlwaysNeverWlN]

Upgrading from 2010 ss

[@powerboatguy2308]

I think after having owning both cars now, I would say if you are just going to be daily driving and not going to the track, you are better off with the Scat Pack and saving a little money even though it is nice to have that badge on the car. A Scat Pack set properly ran run pretty close to what you can do with your Hellcat you got right off the dealer lot on standard suburban pavement (aside from.a roll race), but if you are ever going to see a prepped surface at a track? Different story. The Hellcats, Super stocks and Demons should be purchased with the expectation of going to the track every once in a while. .

[@yourstruly2337]

Why couldnt they simply make the 2019 model with 500+ HP? Why keep it the same?

[@eroom2087]

Yours Truly it’s called saving money

[@xJOkERxD69]

Most stock scats end up dyno testing over 500 at the crank. Mine was rated at 435 at the wheels stock.

[@devn3813]

Yours Truly they are at 500 stock but it’s because if they almost match the hellcat then people won’t buy it anymore.

[@codydonovan7356]

@@devn3813 Even if Dodge made the Scat Pack with 500 HP, the Hellcat still has 217 more HP... That is still a uge difference in power!

[@devn3813]

@@codydonovan7356 the difference in weight and amount of power to run the supercharger doesn’t make it as much of a difference as you’d think. A 500 whp scat pack runs the same times as a 700 hp hellcat, probably mostly due to weight.

[@SSGTA440]

I spoke to a couple of guys that own the 485 horse cars....both had them dyno'd. One was "in" at 530 horses and the other was 524. Both were 2017's Interesting.....I wonder if Mopar purposefully degraded the ratings for insurance reasons, like what was done in the 60's and early 70's.

[@sb8329]

nice cars I like it so much good👍👌👍

[@CoberBox1]

I’m going to miss Marchionne.:( Really hope they with the same focus.

[@FaithfulServant316]

Redeye in B5 blue. Best choice, other than Demon.😎

[@andrelima5124]

485hp with a N/A crossplane V8 it's just on point man.

[@robertb.4202]

Nathan is a man with good musical taste. First, a Motörhead shirt. Now, Rush.

[@michaelrouth5612]

awesome like the 392 but want to here about the 1320 challenger or baby demon

[@GregRoth]

Love the Rush shirt!!!!

[@MrSirnate15]

What a coincidence another guy named Nathan and he's a Steeler fan my kind of guy! 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿

[@BladedAngel]

1:15 Widebody, but with *All Season Tires* from factory? Please tell me there's a way to option it with Summers instead. I'm sure a lot of people who care about the track benefits of the widebody would rather order it with Summers instead!

[@davidburke4101]

Yeah that would suck, but a good set of Michelin summer tyres would only be 1000~$. But what do I know, im just a kid in college with no license lol. And this might be a good thing, since alot of people don't seem to know that winter tyres exist.

[@stevepryor5656]

Summer tires are an option. that's how I ordered mine.

[@dezinetech1000]

From a designers point of view, dodge designers got this right. It’s like the Porsche 911 designs; If you already have an iconic shape/design profile, why mess with it? Gradually do a refresh but still keep the profile of the car. That’s how you make the car design timeless. These challengers are the best looking retro designs out of all the muscle cars because it looks like the original. Don’t believe me? Wait 10-40 years from now and this car will age beautifully whereas the mustangs and Camaros would look dated with their ever changing designs. Also like the fact they kept this car’s dna which is displacements,power and even more power! They stayed true to the dodge brand and that goes a long way.

[@garybishop4030]

Yea too bad everything is going away