Chess Lesson # 92: King’s Indian Defense vs Four Pawn Attack

[@NMRobertRamirez]

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[@_GkT_]

Early e5 - 5:07 d4 Nf6 c4 g6 Nc3 Bg7 e4 d6 f4 0-0 Nf3 **Na6** : Be2 e5 fxe5 dxe5 - dxe5 - 8:30 Nxe5 c5 - dxc5 - 9:55 d5 - 10:25 Be3 - 11:24 d5 - 14:15 Be2 e5 fxe5 dxe5 - dxe5 - 17:22 (take e5 after c6) d5 - 18:36 Nxe5 Qxd4

[@vidushaka4877]

Man you're doing a great job. I mean seriously the way you show the various tactics is really appreciative. Please don't stop making videos. Have a nice day ahead!

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello Santanu! It's truly rewarding to read comments like your. Thanks a lot for your feedback.

[@SgtSilverwater]

You're an absolute Rockstar! I can't believe it's taken me this long to find your videos but I am just blown away with your teaching ability, I'm looking forward to seeing more. Thank you!

[@CHESSPRACTICE]

Best lecture on king's indian defense. Thanks for this one coach.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

No problem at all and thank you for your feedback 💪

[@dougveganparadisebuilder5808]

Hi Robert! Just discovered your channel and your excellent teaching skills and presentation. You deserve more subs! I am a Czech defense player and that's how I found your content. Just one thing. Pirc is not pronounced purk but pirse. GM Vasja Pirc was a Yugoslav and well known chess commentator and Croatian Antonio a.k.a. Agadmator told his audience once that it was pronounced pirse or pearse! Looking forward to the next lesson although I have a lot of lessons to catch up to.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello Doug! Welcome aboard! Thank you so much for taking the time to provide your feedback. Especially on the mispronunciation. I am sure there are many others, so feel free to point them out. I still have a lot to learn 👍 Also, let me know if you have any questions as you go through the lessons. I am always happy to help.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hey guys! If you ever get a game with this variation, feel free to share it with the rest of us by replying to this comment 💪

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

@Nm robert ramirez Today i had a game with this varistion and won easily.. 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e4 d6 5. f4 O-O 6. Nf3 Na6 7. Bd3 e5 8. fxe5 dxe5 9. d5 Nc5 10. Bc2 Bg4 11. O-O Nfxe4 12. Nxe4 Nxe4 13. Bxe4 f5 14. Bg5 Qd6 15. Bc2 e4 16. h3 Bh5 17. g4 fxg4 18. hxg4 Bxg4 19. Bxe4 Qg3+ 20. Kh1 Bxf3+ 21. Rxf3 Qxg5 22. Qg1 Qh4+ 23. Qh2 Qxe4 0-1

[@NMRobertRamirez]

@@vinothindrakannan2240 congrats on such a nice game! I liked how you followed what we covered, but then you added your own touch 💪 Even that Qd6 was nice to see.Thanks a lot for sharing!

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

@@NMRobertRamirez thank you sir. All credits to you.. Greetings from india 🤘

[@envixity5533]

After blacks e5,what if they play dxe,dxe,ne5?

[@NotAUniquePerson]

@@envixity5533 Probably just trade queens and play Nfd7 to trade knights. even though black is a pawn down, they have more than enough compensation in the form of active pieces and weak king to target

[@jonshive5482]

23:04: Sheesh. Stared at this position for maybe 15 minutes but still couldn't get it. Considered 1 ...fxg4 but couldn't figure out what to do after 2.hxg4 Bxg4 3. Bxe4. Also considered 1...Qe6 and 1...exf3 yet couldn't find any decisive continuation. Just goes to show what a fructifyingly complex game chess is, and the difference between chess masters and mere mortals. Congratulations on the brilliancy. Great instruction as always. Cheers!

[@showyourselfaman4917]

Looking forward to watching this after i finish all you Czech Pirc Videos

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

Just wondering who would have made that one dislike🤔.. These videos are one of such fine videos given for free.. And so much effort is spent to make such useful content..let's appreciate it..

[@NMRobertRamirez]

That's someone who plays the Four Pawns Attack as white 😜 Nah in all seriousness, what matters is that people like you found it useful 👍

[@dhruvverma6460]

The dislikes are just misclicks

[@chess_Openings-q8f]

All kigs indian lines are very very great practically I cannot imagine how hard you work to find these lines thank you so much

[@muzkaii]

This is very helpful. Thank you ❤️

[@NMRobertRamirez]

That's great to hear! You are more than welcome! 💪

[@Ebobster]

Bravo; Excellent tactical review of black’s resources in the KID vs white’s 4 pawn attack. Thxs!

[@95harshjoshi]

I was finding Na6 variation on youtube, this one is best thanks man ❤️

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You are more than welcome 💪😎

[@FrancisCrystalHeaven]

Dear Robert, I'm so glad I found your channel, I've been watching many of your uploads, especially the openings ... I cannot thank you enough for your absolutely great work!! But playing KID again and again, I would like to ask you, what do you think about KID against the bird's opening? ... or would perhaps come a video sooner or later? Greetings from Austria

[@andrewmays3988]

Excellent commentary! Thank you!!😇

[@Mr354135]

This is birillant i was familiar to main lines with c5 but this is so trickier and looks more fun thanks

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Thank you! Have fun with it and let me know how it goes 💪

[@jonshive5482]

Really. Tactical subtleties abound. A cornucopia of theory and practical play. All kudos to Robert!

[@dumitrualexandru5188]

God blessed you brother, my chess has evolved so much, despite all the criticism, all this thanks to this course and I be been only a quarter through it😮🎉

[@babaaurhum1]

Nice and clear lesson ! Thanks a lot.

[@smar1k359]

At 19:07 what if white playes b4? Is it ok to take the bishop?

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Good question! In that case, I would consider Nxd3+ followed by a5 or even Nfxe4 directly 👍

[@jonshive5482]

@@NMRobertRamirez But doesn't 1...Nfxe4 simply lose a piece after 1, b4? What sort of wizardry am I missing? Thanks. (Or maybe you meant ...Ncxe4?)

[@NMRobertRamirez]

@@jonshive5482 if b4, we can do Nxc3 hitting their queen. We also have Nxd3 check 👍

[@srinivasuluv8335]

Thank you very much

[@pineapplejuice1156]

Hey Robert, after playing e5 what if they played dxe5 to respond instead of the usual fxe5? I find this line very tricky

[@ablueraven8986]

great video! Thank You for all of your marvellous work!!!

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You are more than welcome! Glad to see you found value in this lesson 👍

[@TheBoxingBinge]

What if they just push their pawn in the beginning attacking the knight ??

[@Chessdrummer83]

I signed up to send some thank you funds your way, love your work Rob!

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Thank you! 👍😎🙌

[@ajayduran8879]

thank u coach

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You are more than welcome! 👍

[@heronymousbot5883]

15:34 it’s white to move, why can’t white go b4 to kick the Knight before we play a5?

[@detective5887]

Very nice video!

[@andex7alves]

excelente comentario, aprendendo muito.

[@c_bass1971]

Robert what happens if at 14:38 white does NFD2? That seems to refute the tactic so I must be missing it?

[@c_bass1971]

answer at 20:25

[@vijyantmehrotra8119]

What a fine win coach

[@showyourselfaman4917]

You da man!

[@NMRobertRamirez]

😎💪

[@ravikumarkothamasu]

Well explained sir . Thanks for the video.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You are more than welcome, Vinukonda! 👍

[@133anfas8]

If any of you have created notes and studies about what Rob is teaching, please share it here. Thank you!

[@masibaysports]

sir i have question, instead of Nf3 after f4 white will play h3 first? thanks a lot coach

[@heronymousbot5883]

6:36 why don’t you like c5 just out of curiosity? I’m studying all of your king’s Indian videos

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

Thank you very much for this video.. I had been waiting for this four pawn attack for a long time..but my expected variatipn is missing. Kindly cover the below variation. 1. d4 Nf6 2.c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e5 d6 5. f4 0-0 6. Nf3 e5 at this point, instead of fxe5, how do we proceed if dxe5. Because in many of my games white tries to exchange my queen with this move... Pls cover this variation.Thank you sir..other than that, this video is in my special video list against four pawn attack. Greetings from India😇

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello Vinoth! You are more than welcome. So, you mean e5 without Na6 first?

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

@@NMRobertRamirez sorry missed that move.. after Na6 Bd2then dxe5

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

1.d4 Nf6 2. c4 g6 3. Nc3 Bg7 4. e5 d6 5. f4 0-0 6. Nf3 Na6 7. Bd2 e5 8. dxe5 this is the position

[@NMRobertRamirez]

@@vinothindrakannan2240 I understand! The reason why we do not go over it in much detail is because white typically wants to fight for an edge since they haver the white pieces and trading queens is not the way to go. If they did, then we just walk into a middlegame that is very comfortable for Black. We just need to outplay them in the middlegame or endgame. My best advise is to do what I explained in this lesson about using the theory feature on lichens and you can see how the game typically continues. If you look at the stats, you will see that white does not do well in such variation. Please, let me know if this makes sense 👍

[@vinothindrakannan2240]

@@NMRobertRamirez yes, i agree with you. I too had a game and won it against such varition..but wanted to know theatrical point of view.. Thank you so much for your valuable comments..let me share one of my game before watching this video... Also let me share one game after seeing this video... Nowi got confidence against four pawn attack.. Thank you so much your effort and inputs

[@brightamadi9820]

Nice one man!...please i would want u to talk about the ponzianni too

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Yes, we will certainly cover the Ponziani too at some point 👍

[@احمدصلاح-ض7ه]

Thank

[@ZeventienMonsters]

At 14:35 you mentioned a tactic: Nxe4 Nxe4 Bf5 does this still work after Nfd2

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello! Yes, I covered it at 20:18 Please let me know if it answers your question 👍

[@ZeventienMonsters]

@@NMRobertRamirez yes it does, thank you very much

[@josephroda7110]

Thanks again sir ROBRT IAM waiting this for along time thanks for granting this video to share GOD BLESSED YI YOUR CHANNEL

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You are more than welcome Joseph! 👍

[@ajb129]

I really like this lesson, however, if white were to play 8) dxe5 dxe5, Nxe5 Nc5, Bf3 isn't white just up a clean pawn with black struggling to find any sort of compensation and playing for a draw?

[@phillipbroughton3086]

Hi Robert. These KID videos are fansastic. Could you make one on how to play the Kings Indian against the English opening?

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello Phillip! Let me know if this helps 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHKth5-PebehotU

[@phillipbroughton3086]

Just watched it. Yes very good thanks Robert

[@KikaNantes]

masterclass

[@anil-wn4er]

Thank you robert sir.. nice explaing... I learnt pirc and kid .... and I crush 1800 rated players in lichess.. Thank you... plz do d4 opening catalan and london

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You got it Anil! We will certainly be covering there Catalan and other d4 openings at some point in the future 👍

[@AtulKumar-cz4wj]

Thanks

[@NMRobertRamirez]

You are welcome, Atul!

[@eshw23]

I think you should start twitch bro, and link it in your videis, you would get a decent amount of viewers at first and might be something fun for you to do plus wed love to see you live!

[@NMRobertRamirez]

I might give it a try at some point in the future. I think it will be fun, but I want to make sure I have the time before I commit to it. Thanks a lot for the encouragement 💪

[@Hojayganaa]

Nice video as usual 👌

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Thank you!

[@berniebrown4960]

Hi Coach cant see if you covered 7.Bd3 e5 8.Be3? I expect you have covered it somewhere but I cant see it. If not I would love to know what you think. Thanks for all you are doing for us all

[@FloatingSunfish]

7:18

[@hahahaha4499]

You're the best

[@AtulKumar-cz4wj]

If someone pushes f5 then what will I do in four pawn kid

[@NMRobertRamirez]

There are two main problems with f5. First, we can always win a pawn with gxf5 and then Bxf5. That same bishop from f5 can move to g6 eventually to protect our kingside. Secondly, if they do f5 directly before dxe5, we can do exd4 and bring our rook to the e-file 💪

[@moniqueheubel8970]

What if the four pawn attack occurs on d4 , e4, f4, g4 instead? Does any of this theory hold up.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello! That would be more like the Pirc vs Austrian Attack (lesson # 73) 👍😎 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJvXkHuearForMk

[@vidushaka4877]

One request as an intermediate, it's a kind request to you Sir, if you could help us how to approach with different openings.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Santanu, what do you mean specifically?

[@vidushaka4877]

@@NMRobertRamirez I mean to say sometimes I am not comfortable with some openings.... Like when I play King's Indian my opponent occupies the center of the board meanwhile I am making my king reach a safer position..... So what are the main lines of each opening and how to approach with them.... I hope Iam being able to make you understand Sir.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

@@vidushaka4877 of course. That is what I am doing with the Pirc and King's Indian Defense. Up to this point, we have had 8 lessons or more on the King's Indian Defense for you guys to know how to approach the different set-ups white can adopt. I am planning to provide you with everything you need to make it to master level. So, we have a lot of material ahead of us 👍

[@joseb6068]

hey robert, wondering if u could do a video on the averbakh variation.Its a tough line for me. Thanks.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello! Today is your lucky day 😎 Guess what lesson is coming out in 2 hours? Keep asking for things you need today 😅

[@joseb6068]

Thank you. I told at the right time😂

[@robertm6597]

there will be second part? becouse you dont show good line for white....???

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello! We will certainly talk more about this variation, but what we covered here should be enough for you to be okay as Black 👍

[@robefajardo4353]

Very instructive, i'll take this lesson to prepare for my coach, he crushed me using this variation, i played so badly as black

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Thank you! Let me know how it goes 👍😎

[@padmapriyana.r6515]

Sir with Pirc and Kid i lost many games

[@omsuthar2876]

Could you please go over the theory for ruy lopez? Other than that, AMAZING video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Yes, we will be going over the Ruy Lopez soon! 💪

[@niazsiddiqui3825]

Nice

[@chessonly3446]

sir please help me on pirc e4 d6 d4 nf6 nc3 g6 nf3. bg7 bc4. 0-0 Qe2 what to do now I lost most important game with this

[@CleanCutt]

where have you been all my chess life .. ???

[@NMRobertRamirez]

😅

[@andrewucla]

Just got a draw against a strong player by playing this. He played Qc2 like at 14:25. I played Nxe4, and I ended up in a winning position. Took the draw because he's like 200 points higher rated (OTB, classical), and you never know what dumb sh*t I might do to blow my winning position...

[@NMRobertRamirez]

😎💪 I know the feeling 😅

[@vijyantmehrotra8119]

Love from INDIA

[@karanarora1468]

👌👍

[@donlaw71]

This opening seems like just a lot of memorization. No skill or imagination.

[@ronaldholden7551]

I don't want to see or hear Kamaltoe.

[@johnmeyer3730]

Your lessons are impossible to follow. There are so many ifs ands and buts that it's beyond confusing.

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello John! Those of you who have been following these lessons in order since the beginning should have acquired the skills to follow along and the tools to save the analysis as we go along. With that said, I'm sure there are other people who explain it well better here in KZbin. Thanks a lot for your feedback 👍😎

[@MadderMel]

Too much fluff , get on with it .

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Really?

[@Charles-Windham]

Explain what you mean by fluff?

[@tonymurphy712]

Fab videos, quick question, what time control is best for improving in chess, I currently play mostly 15|12 but am thinking I should be doing 30 mins or longer as I would like to eventually play over the board, I am rated 1100 on chess.com and am slowly improving. Just started looking at your splendid videos about a week ago :-)

[@NMRobertRamirez]

Hello Tony! That is a great question. So, let's talk about it. Longer time controls (30 minutes or more) allow you to evaluate, plan, and calculate without worrying about running out of time. We need this. Playing blitz does not allow you to do that, but it helps you get comfortable with playing under time pressure. Now, truth is that even if you play a 2-hour game, you might run into time pressure at some point and if you have not trained that, you will blow everything simply because you get nervous. So, like everything in life 😁 we should find a balance to become a more efficient tournament player. I have always performed better when I have a lot of time for my games and after losing so many games in time trouble after hours of play, I started to train my blitz skills too. So, I would recommend playing longer games and little by little incorporate shorter time controls. What I use the most with my students is 15|10 and 5|5. Then, occasionally (and when we are getting ready for tournaments) we play serious time controls (1 hour or more). Hope this answers your question. Please, let me know how you feel as you try other time controls and feel free to ask me any other questions you might have 👍

[@tonymurphy712]

@@NMRobertRamirez Thanks, that makes good sense, I will play 30+ min games and balance with 15|10 games as you suggest. I am currently using the Czech Pirc with good success :-)

[@NMRobertRamirez]

@@tonymurphy712 perfect! Let me know how it goes. You can always adjust as you evolve. Glad to know the Czech variation is working for you by the way 👍