China ambassador Wang Xiaolong's warning about NZ joining AUKUS | 30 with Guyon Espiner Ep.10 | RNZ

[@mingyuhuang8944]

Huge respect to the Chinese ambassador speaking cold hard truth and not being swayed by western propaganda

[@Aaron-gs5si]

Bot

[@andrewking9435]

Classic display of having someone intelligent and articulate to deflect

[@LampoonGoon]

Villains often have the rather splendid habit of appearing noble or gentlemanly.

[@pwollerman]

@@LampoonGoonlike Trump?

[@Walterkooy]

He is a top diplomat and knows how the game is played. Well done. Master class diplomacy for Blinken and all US ambassadors.

[@yzy8638]

@@LampoonGoon act nature westerner: uncivilised act noble westerner: must be evil nothing they do will satisfy you because deep rooted in your mind you hate them

[@jerryross9638]

I as a born multi generational New Zealander totally support the Chinese . they are speaking the truth. One of their core policies ,which his the reason they are welcomed in Africa and many other countries round the world , is not to have any interference in another countries internal affairs. the USA and my wife is American are mad and to quote a famous American "to be an enemy of America is dangerous, being a friend is fatal" Kissinger I think. America has interfered in nearly 80 different elections in countries round the world , they have been surrounding Russia and China with military bases ,42 new bases going in in Scandinavia alone,4 in the Philippines under construction to add to the over 700 military bases round the world and you are going to entertain that China with thousands of years of history has only fought outside its borders 3 times ,twice when the Mongols were in charge and they invaded Japan and in the Korean war where gen Macarthy was retired for proposing dropping 20 ,yes twenty nukes on the Chinese border so they helped the north Koreans fight the Americans. ps the president at the time fired (retired) the old senile general on receiving this plan. the only people to interfere in our elections will be America through their many front groups and propaganda that is sent down the pipe like from the major news networks.as far as for genocide, want to see one don't bother looking for one in China look at the American supplied weapons blowing apart Palestinians in Gaza. I know who I prefer. this is not on the American people they have no control with a uniparty in power . their main policies never change much.

[@LampoonGoon]

CCP troll/bot. More likely a paid troll, given the rotten punctuation.

[@wassum100]

@@LampoonGoonthat’s your answer to legitimate points raised eh. CIA bot

[@albback8176]

​@@LampoonGoonOMG, your slope-headed comment is so shallow that a fish would have to walk to travel from one eyebrow to the other, and the comedic value alone is worth more gold than any troll could hope to stumble across, even by accident...

[@WWLooi-js8rl]

Seems like there is a factory somewhere that manufactured all these lies against China, and these lies get recycled in the mostly collective West, especially the Anglo-Saxons sphere. Shame on you, New Zealand! I thought you were different from other Anglo-Saxons cos you are more inclusive and learned your history of genocide of Maori people in your country.

[@cybonol]

@@LampoonGoon yes because paying trolls is productive for the chinese government 💀

[@tc-fz5qn]

Kudos to the Chinese Ambassador for responding so patiently and gentlemanly to all the questions put to him by the host of this program. The host was obviously trying too hard at times, to "get" the ambassador by pushing aggressively for a particular response he was after. But, the ambassador is able to respond calmly with facts and reason, much to the disappointment of the host. The Xinjiang story has been totally and completely beaten to death and absolutely debunked so many times that its so boring and embarrassing for any interviewer to even bring it up. And to keep pushing the ambassador to mention the name of the country he was referring to that had been and still are interfering into the domestic affairs of EVERY country on the planet including fomenting and actively participating in colour revolutions, conducting illegal invasions of other nations, illegal surveillance including the personal cell phones of heads of states, committing crimes against humanity and other hedious, unmentionable war crimes - merely reveals the host's less than honourable intent and biasness. Congratulations again, to the Chinese Ambassador for standing up to all these nonsense and conducting this interview with such grace and dignity.

[@AechPEss]

USA too strong 💪. China lose. Sorry 😢

[@mikepau1593]

Respect is an imperative, it’s something I observe the Chinese people have, our politicians could a thing or to, by aligning to our cultural identify within the country’s we live.

[@LampoonGoon]

CCP troll/bot. More likely a paid troll.

[@yecart1014]

The conversation shows what a slippery slope the world is on. Support means obey. Warn means if you do we will show you our hand.

[@yecart1014]

250000 in Auckland alone are stats nz rigged

[@Catonius]

To be America's enemy is dangerous, to be America's ally is fatal.

[@dannnsss8034]

China's only official ally - North Korea. America's closest allies, including South Korea.

[@henryyong5974]

@@Catonius yea right.

[@henryyong5974]

To quote Teng Siou Ping, Those friends of USA are economy rich, and those who are not remine POOR. You want to challenge him !!!????

[@yzy8638]

@@henryyong5974 ya sure, saudi is USA friend, USA is friend to dictator that they can extort, while starving neighbor like cuba to death, bombing iraq with lies, killing cambodian just because they so unlucky stand next to US's victim. oh, but european are rich, why not? after 2 century of looting the entire world, it be funny if europe arent rich

[@chriswong9158]

Henry Kissinger Quote: “To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.” "When two neighboring countries fight each other, just know the USA visited one." - Nelson Mandela

[@patriotoverseas]

The interviewer reeks of bias and double standard ! He is quick to accuse and interrupt his guest. No manners at all.

[@HappyDT]

White Boy. What else to expect?

[@lmantuano6986]

guy's a m0r0n!

[@scalarnai]

The China ambassador is very smart, knowledgeable and diplomatic despite being harassed by interviewer.

[@tonigilsenan6320]

That indeed is how reporters should conduct interviews. This ambassador is intelligent enough to respond.

[@NamDuong-y7n]

@@tonigilsenan6320 interruptions mid-sentence and rapid series of accusations is not reporting. If you want clear facts to answer your questions then you have to listen to the replies and follow-up, not going into tangent talking points.

[@shiromaru8236]

Stop asking human right issue. Look at the mirror yourself how Māori were treated. The present government even want to cancel the treaty?

[@neilwolff7894]

Double standards are deeply embedded in their essence.

[@mirachataseven3709]

And so human right issues are fine in China?

[@josephlionellin3004]

They certainly still think that they have the moral high ground to lecture the non-whites or the global South on anything whilst discreetly sweeping their wrong deeds under the carpet. 😂😂😂

[@danwelterweight4137]

The last people to ask about human right are Western nations. Do you have any idea what Western Imperialist countries did to the peoples of the Americas, Africa, Middle East, INDIA, South East Asia and China. China removed 850 million of its people out of poverty. Turned what was once one of the poorest countries in the world into the richest country in the world by Purchasing Power parity. When the Communists came to power the average life expectancy of the Chinese people was a meager 36.5 years of age. 80% of the population couldn't read or write. Women were chattel to be owned, bought and sold as property. Many of them had their feet crushed to appease the fetishes of Men. Nevermind the fact that all Chinese major cities were in rubble after years of civil war and a war against genocidal Imperial Japan. Today Chinese people's life expectancy is 78 years of age. Their life expectancy is event higher than the United States. Their infant mortality is lower than the United States. Chinese people 3njoy a better living standards than any other time in their history. There 4x less people in jail in China than there are in the United States per capita. Chinese infrastructure and cities make Western cities look like developing countries Yet you want to tell the Chinese to get rid of the government who has done all of this for them. China's population is 1.47 Billion people. It has 1.6 million people behind bars. The US has a population of 340 million people and it has 1.8 million people behind bars And you want to tell me China is violating the human rights of its people.

[@mirachataseven3709]

@@danwelterweight4137 In the past terrible atrocities and injustices were carried out by western nations. My point is not that the West is better than China, my point is just because the West abused human rights in the past, it doesn't mean that China can put innocent Uyghur people in prisons and concentration camps just because of their identity, religion and culture being different to eastern China.

[@jaytreeamdaf99]

Man this dude is cool as! Bring him on again man. Sharp fella.

[@pouwakaruwhiu8349]

New Zealand don't join AUKUS, you will pay dearly as for America they do things for themselves not for New Zealand Economy. America is not invincible anymore, America only thinks of war the most aggressive ally for centuries, America indigenous people have been fighting American Government for 500 years and they are still fighting for their rights of their land, from Qld 🦘

[@jemma_19988]

If us had not set up a base here during ww2 we would be under japan nowadays

[@wassum100]

@@jemma_19988not true, very simplistic conclusion

[@SocialistStoner]

​@@jemma_19988 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bruh just stop.. when you have absolutely zero idea what yorue talking about and just wanna be desperately such an American style bigot....just stop you're a loozer simpng for Amerrikkka

[@yzy8638]

@@jemma_19988 UK: if i didnt colonise all you savage still live in uncivilised cave! praise me UK the bringer of civilisation, the mother of culture!

[@chriswong9158]

Sample of joining AUKUS Australia's Defence Policy In 2023 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZjWoZ6um9CGas0

[@stevecooper9896]

No to AUKUS and get off the stage puppet Guyon.

[@lmantuano6986]

what kind of m0r0nic parents give a child a name like that..!?!

[@brianlowe3529]

Chinese been here since the 1800s . Have they attacked .

[@ThriceGr8]

There's a big difference between the Chinese people and the authority who leads the nation... If you don't understand that then you're hopeless

[@brianlowe3529]

@@ThriceGr8 like israel you reckon you are hopeless

[@brianlowe3529]

@@ThriceGr8 what do you reckon .

[@ThriceGr8]

@@brianlowe3529 I didn't say anything about Israel. What are you implying?

[@brianlowe3529]

@@ThriceGr8 China been communist since 1949 . Have they attacked. Come on. You got your head in the USA propaganda . Your hope less

[@tristanpatterson3843]

It's kind of sad that we have to look to the east to see real diplomats.

[@stevebarrett6767]

He is good at his job..massive fail trying to pretend that Taiwanese want to be usurped by China.

[@djhemirukahemisphere8893]

Not really

[@raoulchristensen5279]

Diplomacy has never been part of the US makeup and why are we aligning ourselves with a country that's inflicting a genocide on the Palestinian people. We've got a PM who claims to be a Christian. He's neoliberal to the core and no to aukus. Our destiny should lie with BRICS.

[@yzy8638]

china has been for thousand of years using public exam to pick government officers, while europe at the same time appoint counsins and nephew of kings and queen to do the bidding, its not the first time to look at oriental to find ideas

[@LWJCarroll]

I wanted to hear what Ambassador had to say with out being talked over. The interviewer still gets to ask questions as a two way discussion. Laurie. 😊

[@walking_luggage8105]

The defense budget is usually a portion of a country's GDP. China's defense budget is usually about 1.7% of its GDP and it has not increased. What has increased is China's total GDP because its economy is growing very fast. This is why it "looks like" China's defense budget is increasing while it is actually the same. For example, if your total weath was 100 dollars in the past and you spend 1% of your wealth on food, then that is 1 dollar spent on food. But say this year your wealth increased to 110 dollars and you still spend 1% of your wealth on food, then you are spend one dollar ten cent on food. But this is normal because there is inflation every year. Also I don't like this journalist. Why does he keep interrputing the Chinese ambassador and he doesn't let him finish speaking? Is this how free speech works?

[@katejudson8907]

It's really awfully disrespectful to interrupt and pummel with loaded questions like that. I bet if he had a sports legend on there he would be tripping over himself with an apology if he just accidentally interrupted them for a second. So rude.

[@Walterkooy]

The ambassador answered that question in a masterly diplomatic way.

[@nanyanguo1]

just like how medhi hassan interrupted victor Gao. The constant interuptions are nothing more than means to prevent the speaker from telling the truth

[@ChuanTeh]

Defense budget cannot be measured by percentage, the same weapons built by US cost a million while china cost a thousand onlyyyyy what's the different???

[@walking_luggage8105]

@@ChuanTeh The national defense budget is ALWAYS measured by percentage of total GDP. The reason being: Relative Economic Burden: Measuring defense spending as a percentage of GDP allows for a comparison of how much a country is investing in defense relative to the size of its economy. This helps assess whether defense spending is in line with a nation's economic capacity. For example, a country with a larger GDP can afford to spend more on defense without overburdening its economy compared to a country with a smaller GDP. International Comparisons: Using GDP as a benchmark allows for easier comparison between countries of different economic sizes. Countries with different levels of economic development can still be compared on the basis of how much they allocate to defense relative to their total economic output. Economic Context: GDP reflects the overall wealth and economic health of a country, so measuring defense spending as a percentage of GDP provides a broader context of the nation's ability to fund its military without detracting excessively from other priorities, like healthcare, education, or infrastructure. Strategic Prioritization: Countries may adjust their defense budgets based on strategic needs and geopolitical circumstances. By measuring it as a percentage of GDP, it becomes easier to monitor if defense spending is increasing or decreasing over time relative to the economy, which can indicate shifting priorities or changes in security concerns. International Norms and Alliances: In some cases, international organizations or defense alliances, such as NATO, encourage countries to allocate a certain percentage of their GDP to defense. For instance, NATO has set a target of 2% of GDP for defense spending among its members. This standard helps maintain a certain level of military readiness and burden-sharing within the alliance. Policy Transparency: Percentage-based measures make it easier for the public, lawmakers, and policymakers to discuss defense spending within the broader context of the national economy. It makes defense spending more understandable and accessible, especially when comparing how much different countries prioritize defense. Also China's weapons are not that cheap. It is not a few thousand bucks vs a few million. The J20 fighter costs about 200 million USD per unit while the F35 costs about 350 million US per unit. The US spends 3 times more than China on weapons becuase the US is buying up offensive weapons that can project power from across the ocean while China is buying defensive weapons to defend China's territories at their front door. It is always more expensive to prepare for an offence than planning for a defence.

[@AndyLim0703]

Guyon Espiner is very rude, not professional. Interrupt ambassador all tbe time. The ambassador is cool and professional. Guyon should learn from the ambassador, if not he should just discontinue his program. Shame on you, Guyon.

[@SocialistStoner]

He's an amerikkkan mouth piece and a bigoted imperialist puppet

[@brianwheeldon4643]

Wouldn't it be great if New Zealand were a sovereign and neutral state. (Statement not question). Thank you ambassador for educating NZ mainstream media. In foreign policy matters, we enjoy an msm that lies by omission. My goodness ambassador it's like being interviewed by an irritable child. I apologise on behalf of my fellow New Zealanders.

[@ThriceGr8]

You're doing a good job of convincing idiots that the diplomat came across 'victorious' in this interview... Keep the bot farm up champ, earn those 4 USD an hour for the sake of your nation

[@shiromaru8236]

Thank you. Well said

[@RobertWarman-i9l]

Well said

[@jasonn5196]

Embarrassing that was broadcast under the RNZ banner, the BS 5am talking points. The lack of respect, culture and general low quality. We can do better.

[@renjingtu3611]

Why NZ's security has to rely on US and Europe allies?

[@amunra5330]

They want to be part of a white people club.

[@gelinrefira]

Haha, the ambassador of a country is not going to reveal the policies of his government in a public interview. Asking the ambassador what China will do with a trump presidency is a useless question. No ambassador is going to limit his government's options by publicly saying this or that without his government explicitly saying that's what they are going to do. Instead of asking these low gain questions, the interviewer should be asking about the ambassador's opinions on the current NZ and China relationship and whether NZ foreign policies actually matches China foreign policies, so we can actually know what China thinks.

[@williammar679]

9999😂

[@yzy8638]

problem is only normal people wish to understand what others think politician, elites, lapdogs, they dont care what other think

[@wassum100]

Guyon failed to compare US spending on their military with China’s! Significant difference

[@Alll2017]

Definite NO to joining aukus

[@yct6500]

No to Aukus. Nz must stay nuclear free.

[@yangxin2232]

It's better that New Zealand focuses on what benefits their people most, rather that simply following US's order. I thought that was commen sense, but it appears not. I don't know why.

[@MataHeaps]

Well put can we have deeper questions like how can we help achieve our goals of renewable energy together and many others. It's always the same how bad are you questions.

[@oilenglai4128]

WANG xiaolong...WELL SAID and ARTICULATED. WE, CHINESE AND DIASPORA AROUND THE WORLD, are proud of your answers and expressions to the western scoffingS. 加 油 王 🇨🇳

[@Desyo-wn7ib]

Let's see you bring the American ambassador and ask him as aggressively as you asked the Chinese ambassador's, The American ambassador Within 24 hours he will sanction you 😂

[@koi-chingchiu]

Very proud of the Ambassador of China Wang Xiao-Long.

[@Walterkooy]

My compliments ambassador Wang. Very diplomatic interview. The US ambassador in China and his boss Blinken should watch it and learn. Next time don’t accept and correct the interviewer if he says CCP. Lecture him.

[@wataric1600]

Another rude superiority complex Western interviewer who thinks he is more sophisticated n smarter than any non westerners. SMH

[@kennedy6618]

The NZ host needs to learn some etiquette and show respect to his guest! Let your guess talk without interruptions ...such ignorance!

[@StephenfromChch]

Informative and respectful interview, thank you Guyon Espier and Xiaolong Wang.

[@drednorzt]

I mean, say what you will about Chinese foreign policy, but Xialong is certainly correct about the behaviour of he who must not be named.

[@AntonioMargehretti]

Keep on leading by example china 👏

[@davidpang7628]

After the usual diplomatic opening remarks, the rest was a 'without fear or favour' interview. Guyon Espiner was not afraid to ask tough questions and the China ambassador Wang Xiaolong responded, likewise, straightforwardly. This dynamics is symptomatic of a maturing relationship. In terms of national interest, New Zealand is less shaped by secuirty threat (when compared with Australia for example) than by its economic vulnerability; it's national interest is strategically placed along the 'price taker - price maker' contiuum.

[@douglaswong8610]

60% tariffs is going give Americans no lunch, no dinner

[@riceballlegend7757]

It's amazing to me that China invented a new system that is a blend of Socialism and Capitalism. There is still lots of room for improvement on the education of the people, as most rural people aren't leveled up to the modern life yet. But the tremendous progress made over the last 30 years has been remarkable. Great job!

[@weileang447]

This host is a total joke when he mentioned Taiwan 😂

[@kiwikiwi223]

Id rather be linked with china and brics than us and aukus

[@tristanpatterson3843]

Precisely. Biggest market, closest and a long history of trade and travel. As for any human rights issues, shut your mouth until Saudi Arabia and Israel are considered pariahs. Any other way of approaching it is just downright racist.

[@drednorzt]

@@tristanpatterson3843 this ^^^

[@kiwikiwi223]

@tristanpatterson3843 sorry I dont understand the last half off your comment?

[@stevebarrett6767]

@@kiwikiwi223 not sure if you are a bot or a strange one. You might like to try and justify that with some facts, no rhetoric please.

[@tristanpatterson3843]

@@kiwikiwi223 Sorry, badly worded. I meant that all the critics of Chinese humans rights, need to complain as loud about SA and ISRL'S.

[@JL88]

Amazing how this host can bring himself to keep interrupting the guest after posing a question! As others have said, there is a vivid show of bias by the interviewer…its so clear the script given by the producers of this show to him is is to push the typical Mainstream Media narrative, to smear the Chinese representative, to try to get a slip out of him, get him to react emotionally and say something that they could in turn declare, “Ah, we told you so! This is who they are!”. It’s pathetic, ugly and does nothing good. Only nefarious objective is to try and build up a library of negative talking points. Maybe this show 30, is receiving some of the funding from the US congress’s budget of $1.6B attributed to the anti-China media campaign? Hopefully for the sake of New Zealanders, they see the bullocks and wake up to the fact that their media and government are working for the interests of the US and not for the sovereignty, independence and benefits of New Zealand and its peoples.

[@nanyanguo1]

he was ensuring he wouldnt get fired or demoted

[@ddtking7630]

It’s CPC not CCP

[@ivanchan1041]

Both are OK!

[@ddtking7630]

@@ivanchan1041 yes once you fart from your mouth too often you believe no difference

[@wkzj-po8on]

当然不一样，CPC意思是中国的共产党，共产党成员可以是汉族，也可以是少数民族，这个中国是PRC的意思，西方的CCP有两个恶意，一个是与苏联的CCCP相链接，因为西方媒体里面苏联代表的共产主义和纳粹类似，另一原因，翻译过来是汉族（C）共产党（C）党（P），把汉族和其他少数民族隔开，意思是是中国汉族所代表的党压迫少数民族

[@BillKort-xo8nj]

​@@ivanchan1041 No, both are not okay. The CCP is a political party. It was founded in 1921. Today the CCP has almost 100 million members. Anyone can make an application to join the party. The CPC is the name of the government of the People's Republic of China. It was founded in October 1949. You can't make an application to join the CPC. You are either elected; as happens at the 2 lower levels of Congress, or, you are promoted based on performance. There are 9 political parties in China. The CCP is the largest party and forms about 70% of government officials. The remaining 30% of government officials are either members of one of the other 8 parties or they are Independent: have no party affiliations.

[@BillKort-xo8nj]

@@ivanchan1041 No, both are not okay. The CCP is a political party. It was founded in 1921. Today the CCP has almost 100 million members. Anyone can make an application to join the party. The CPC is the name of the government of the People's Republic of China. It was founded in October 1949. You can't make an application to join the CPC. You are either elected; as happens at the 2 lower levels of Congress, or, you are promoted based on performance. There are 9 political parties in China. The CCP is the largest party and forms about 70% of government officials. The remaining 30% of government officials are either members of one of the other 8 parties or they are Independent: have no party affiliations.

[@chrislilliannorton177]

A different opinion from a great many of the more positive comments here... The Ambassador is an astute, highly trained communicator for the mainland Chinese government. He knows how to respond to Guyon's queries with principled, well tested and approved vocabulary to get the talking points across with the correct nuanced emphasis - where required. Good on him for doing an excellent job for the CCP.

[@jasonn5196]

Funny how the presenter is so many levels below the other gentleman. Even flaunting his personal bigotry when conveying the gentleman as China and not a person or seperate entity from China the country. We are pathetic. ❤ “That will hurt you won’t it”? “You keep that secret”? How poorly educated are we.

[@katejudson8907]

Totally. I couldn't continue watching. This interviewer is so fragile that he has to throw other people's punches.

[@Harehona5014]

The NZ govt no longer speaks for the people its full of Australians.

[@Time4Peace]

Interviewer: If we treat you as our enemy, would you still buy from us? Ambassdor: Why would you want to treat us as our enemy when we are your friend and your biggest buyers of your goods? Interviewer: Because you treat your people badly? Ambassador: Didn't you realise you were lied to? And we are not even asking Maori Kiwi how they feel and about the genocides against them in the historical past. Andy Boreham (a Kiwi): Here's the lies about Xinjiang kzbin.info/www/bejne/gH-Qg6RonrqMhrs

[@mervynpeka]

From an economics pov China is the leading capitalist nation too. Socialist capitalism is what they apply.

[@russelltan2309]

Guyon Espiner is being provocative. As a journalist he seems to be totally ignorant. Go and read Assange and Pilger, Mr Espiner.

[@foobarf8766]

It was worth watching to understand what propaganda about AUKUS sounds like. Being obviously wrong about non proliferation and doctrine since 1989 has no good excuses.

[@drednorzt]

Do you think America wouldn't throw us under the bus as soon as it was beneficial? All we are to them is a convenient place put some of the Five Eyes infrastructure. Just this year the GCSB found unauthorized US software on their servers sending data back to them.

[@Time4Peace]

What an irritating interviewer who is not out to clarify but to demonise!

[@chriswong9158]

For NZ citizen to view: Australia's (AUKUS) Defense Policy In 2023 - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qZjWoZ6um9CGas0 If New Zealand wishes to join USA AUKUS, so let it be... just remember Australia 2018-2022. China PRC have option. China's policy of non-interference and the defense of sovereignty directive of others.... Today China PRC largest trading partners is ASEAN. New Zealand can partner or not is up to NZ.

[@janmcleod6727]

Suggest commentators on Uighur "issues" for Aotearoans use words like "Isis" & "infiltration", when describing the problems China had with terrorism from Xinjiang separatists round 2016. Most adult Kiwis would grasp how serious a problem that would be, for any country. There are documentary videos showing horrific evidence from back then, which our media of course never mentioned.

[@donaldtonga7529]

Whole interview is Gaslight.

[@yecart1014]

Question related to military spend. Compared to US soldiers what are Chinese soldiers paid as a retainer. Potentially this could actually mean quite abit

[@michaelchiang-k2w]

The interviewer sucks doesn't know how to conduct a fair n non interruption on someone doing the talk with such rude jabs

[@chinkayeok6117]

And when mr wang mentioned that non of the world islamic countries accused China of ill treatment toward Xinjiang, the interviewer suddenly woke up from his slumber. He is so stupid 😱

[@serenachen9385]

The host must go to China see by himself he is lost in time😂😂😂

[@drewVL1]

This interview is super rude non professional and think he is all above.

[@TheGchiu]

Why doesn't the ambassador ask why 50% of the prison population is Maori when they only represent 15% of the population? Talk about the kettle calling the pot black.

[@Go_Home_British_Raj]

British Colonials love to pontificate on stolen lands

[@lifes_abeach6040]

It is facts😂

[@Go_Home_British_Raj]

@@lifes_abeach6040 It is Foreign British Colonial Systemic Racism to steal Aotearoa

[@stevebarrett6767]

@@TheGchiu he might also ask why they commit a disproportionate amount of the offending.

[@TheGchiu]

@@stevebarrett6767 QED

[@bendybruce]

NZ is caught between a rock and a hard place. Sooner or later we are going to have to pick a side. The problem is, both of these sides suck but in very different ways. In a purely economic sense however it's a bit of a no brainer. America is on the decline , both economically and politically. It is also a country that has interfered with other sovereign nations to a degree that vastly outstrips any other country on Earth , including China. America's complete disregard for the ICC and its unconditional support for the rogue state of Israel is a clear indication of how it will continue to isolate itself from the rest of the global community.

[@skovdzschitt3230]

Fully agree. Given much of the West is in a self-inflicted economic stagnation, constraining alternative approaches in order to maintain the outdated status quo and suffocating social growth and development, I wouldn’t look to the West for solutions. In saying that, China is indeed a tyrant in its own region and much of its expansion reflects America’s colonisation of their island neighbours. so assuming that China’s expansion wouldn’t take the same aggressive bullying position that America has taken in the 20th/21st century would be idiotic. RockNZHardPlace indeed

[@bendybruce]

@@skovdzschitt3230 I'm glad someone else can see the dilemma we face here. Trump's commitment to tariffs has the potential to wreck havoc to global trade. Furthermore he's filling the White House with a rogue's gallery of Clowns. Aligning ourselves with America is akin to joining the circus. Economically I think the smart play would be not to join AuKUS and to continue to cultivate trade relations with China. My fear however, is that China is very skilled at using economics to exert power over foreign countries. This is a skill I think they learned after the 2008 global financial crisis, and they are very good at it. The ambassador mentioned few if any Muslim nations have complained about human rights violations in China, but I think a big part of that is they can no longer afford to.

[@Craig-x7f]

Why do we need to pick a side ??? We are at the bottom of the world we should do what's best for NZ only

[@stevebarrett6767]

Hey, I could give you a bigger list of Chinese bad behaviour.

[@peterelliott2914]

@@Craig-x7f Totally. The guy is just saying that joining AUKUS is picking a side. I would have to agree.

[@benjamintaine4476]

China, Russia and Brazil should also create CRS to cover Pacific Ocean and Atlantic Ocean to provide advance military capabilities in case US tries to launch more of their never ending war policy

[@henryyong5974]

Being 4th generation ethnic Chinese, my fore parents left their country then known as Ching Dynasty due to hunger, governed by Manturia. ( NOT, China) as people so confused about the difference. Ccp trying hard to telling the world , all ethnic Chinese living outside ( NOW) PRC are supporters of ccp. He is totally wrong. We're NOT a supporters but anti ccp. There's great different in our culture.

[@mskmsk7174]

Exactly right my friend. The Chinese people are wonderful, it's the CCP that is the problem. They do not represent the Chinese people.

[@04WELLYDEEP]

Be careful what you say man you might end up in one of those re education camps lol

[@walking_luggage8105]

What kind of Chinese are you? You don't even know your history. What the heck is "Manturia"? And why are you equating the Qing dynasty with the CCP? Do you know any history at all?

[@LampoonGoon]

@@walking_luggage8105 CCP troll

[@walking_luggage8105]

@LampoonGoon you call me ccp troll. I call you cia troll. It all means moot.

[@sukieoutdoors7422]

Host ask a question. The Ambassador answers it. Then the host quickly moves on to the next question. Didn't even bother to talk more about the topics lol.

[@josephlionellin3004]

This NZ so called Interviewer doesn't seem to look like the BRIGHTEST BULB on the X'Mas tree. Certainly not the best bloke among the rest hailing from the Journalistic fraternity. Naive, inpatient and occasionally a little bit of an irritant as one can describe him. 😂😂😂

[@douglaswong8610]

You should be asking what happened to the Maori? Mowing the lawn? Sounds familiar?

[@samlim-mg5iq]

There is no re education camp at all The interviewer should go there n investigate

[@pblakez]

very calm and collected till foreign interference then the body language tells

[@supergroovy8346]

It is NZ best interest to be closer to China because of geography. But NZ is a province of the US empire so NZ doesn't have much of a choice to do what is best in their interest.

[@dunzhen]

Ah...pure Australian self righteousness. It's a western thing, not necessarily an Australian thing

[@bruceross9521]

In 2023 China spent $13.5 billion dollars on NZ products, the U.S.A. spent $5.79 billion... miserable sods

[@AnjanaJain-om1si]

3 % of GDP Means 450 to 500 billion dollar that would be defence budget of china according to ambassador of china way more than they officially say to the rest of world.

[@WSCEngineering]

The host interrupts Mr. Xiaolong far too much. It is very difficult to absorb what he is communicating very diplomatically while this host is talking so much.

[@julianhussenet7633]

Nz media for you. Treat their host like they’re stupid and behave as if they have a superiority complex

[@drednorzt]

Thats the point of Guy Espiners show. To be as critical as possible with the interview, instead of letting the guest glide along on their own talking points. What your describing is a press release. If you prefer that then just listen to CCP statements directly.

[@WSCEngineering]

@@drednorzt Ok but the host comes across as a little ADHD with a very short attention span.

[@yzy8638]

@@drednorzt to be critical and not let the other to answer properly, than whats the point of inviting the guest, you just being critical and keep critical by yourself, since the other party dont need to convey any point. its like saying a debate with 1 side being mute half the time is being critical to your opponent, westoid just gonna invent new concept like this?

[@amanjaya-s9v]

Do you believe in free trade? You should ask EU and DT!

[@navegantezen5983]

I thought the Inquisition was gone.

[@5dsparrow679]

To Chinese living aboard, NZ Alignment with Xi would be a disaster.

[@fleurstarable]

No idea of Geopolitics

[@drednorzt]

Being a trading partner is not the same as political allegiance.

[@brianlowe3529]

Why ?

[@jerryross9638]

you are probably not familiar with economics of internation commerce, we would be screwed as a country with tariffs already on many of our few goods we sell to America and tariffs of 20% added to any imported things in America when the new govt comes to power.

[@5dsparrow679]

Xi would be happy to use democracies trust to apply global censorship, I was an insider back in China, trust me. 五毛滚开

[@samv2777]

India should withdraw from Aukus

[@lmantuano6986]

..you mean "The Quad"..?

[@linnightl9277]

Started surprisingly cordial then got very prickly. Always veiled threats and indignant avoidance of inconvenient truths from CCP lackeys. Strong interview skills by Guyon Espiner.

[@katejudson8907]

Strong? 😂 Fragile more like it.

[@paulinearnold4220]

Love China❤❤❤❤

[@peterkuppens6060]

There are more Chinese in ew Zealand tan foreigners in china

[@yecart1014]

The word support is chucked around alot, but has a sinister ring to it

[@3drocket]

It's like the way China now supports Hong Kong...

[@simonhadfield7691]

I'm enjoying this series.

[@Time4Peace]

Why would an ambassador want to be in a program with a hostile and irritating interviewer bent on pushing a propaganda?

[@brianlowe3529]

Rewi alley . 🤙

[@dragpalhafsang9039]

Interview’s amazing arrogant questions.

[@janmcleod6727]

ON PRINCIPLE ! Go read some history...

[@jacquelinepayne2012]

Klaus Schwab of the WEF summed it up when he stated that power would move from the West to the East, and he should know.

[@bw5095]

There are many little pinks here😂

[@katejudson8907]

And a few tired dinosaur McCarthyites. Yawn.

[@RobertWarman-i9l]

Cheapest butter in hokitika supermarket 8 $ a pound westland dairy company wholly chinese owned and doing a decent job ,but you cant help feel our regions soul is being bled to serve international conglomerates first

[@andrewking9435]

What about China ramming Philippine ships in South China sea?

[@FattymcstattyMcormick-pv6pj]

No need to trade with China, India has a great demand for dairy and beef. And their population is growing.

[@lawrance6540]

wtf are you talking about mate, are u joking? have you heard a joke about selling pork to indonesia

[@shiromaru8236]

Show me how much have NZ have sold your produce to India? Even from from Australia.

[@yzy8638]

@@shiromaru8236 he do sounds sarcastic, hindu dont consume neither dairy or beef, doubt NZ got much to sell

[@jimt2762]

​@lawrance6540 😂😂😂

[@r.1599]

He says they want a peaceful reunification of China, and also that the Taiwanese want this too. The fact that this guy is saying, pretty much, that China is begging for a "peaceful" reunification, means that so far, it's proven harder than they thought because the Taiwanese are _fighting_ them on it. The Taiwanese wouldn't be fighting so hard against it if they really did want to be part of China again. With all due respect to the man, I do not believe anything this man says about anything.

[@tristanpatterson3843]

But you believe everything that comes out of the US state dept right?

[@brianlowe3529]

That’s your choice . 😂

[@paulinearnold4220]

But Taiwan is legally part of China so there is no argument

[@stevebarrett6767]

@@tristanpatterson3843there speaks a man with no argument.

[@kiwikiwi223]

@stevebarrett6767 even if they did america would make sure it looks like they don't 😂. They need Taiwan for there chips otherwise game over

[@3800gracie]

Love all the anti-american comments that ignore China's negative actions. All big countries shape their world,, NZ does this as well. The questions for NZ is what vision of the world do we support.

[@wassum100]

Well America’s ‘vision’ is protection of the corporate puppet state as opposed to China’s vision of care for their population. Compare the number of homeless in America with the no homeless in China

[@susanmorrissey3555]

I didnt like it that China has threatened us about consequences if we join aukus. Bully boys. We are our own country and will decide ourselves thankyou.

[@eddyg4742]

It's not bullying. It's like U have always been buying from a local store down the road and Ure their biggest customer. Then the store decides to turn hostile against you. Would you continue to buy heaps from that store ? Especially if there are other options ? It's as simple as that.

[@JohnZoetebier]

Is NZ joining AUKUS out of free will? Or are they bullied into submission like the EU, Japan, South Korea and Australia?

[@katejudson8907]

Actually all AUKUS is is a bully protection racket aimed at China.

[@russelltan2309]

But you have been a cozying up with a big bully spying on others? What is the purpose of 5 Eyes? To organise a tea party? What is AUKUS for? Why do you have to surround China with hundreds of military bases? Why are you so provocative by sailing across the Straits of Taiwan? Those waters belong to China. Taiwan is part of China as the Americans have acknowledged it way back in the 1970s under President Nixon. Why do you have to meddle with China's internal affairs? What if China interferes with NZ internal affairs like encouraging Maoris to become more radical or ask Chatham Islanders to split from the rest of NZ? Please use your brains before opening your mouth. Do not let others eat your lunch. many countries are dying to eat NZ lunches.

[@rachanasor4248]

stop lie our beautiful world, my grand parents was so suffered ...

[@RebelTempleton-Knight]

Stop kissing butt, We are our own Country and People...not shadows of others.

[@brianlowe3529]

N z prime minister. I am a American political junkie 😂😂. 💋💄

[@bentomlin8183]

Firing missles over the pacific? Without collective permission from pacific nations. That says something about how the pacific is regarded. At the end - rights to peacefully exist without discrimination for diaspora. New Zealand is a world leader - so that is rich to hear that from this speaker and a distraction from the issue at hand. In our legal jurisdiction, free speech is protected. Interfering with that undermines NZ sovereignty from NZ perspective. From a CCP perspective it is a legal action to support their nation. But this is our land. We define your interference in free speech here as foreign interference. You may have other definitions but this is our land and jurisdiction and we are sovereign. Our sovereignty is violated by interference in free speech.

[@vishalphogat5071]

12:30 India also has NO FIRST USE Nuclear Policy. So it's not JUST China

[@andrewking9435]

Why does China want Taiwan so badly?

[@jerryross9638]

because they both agree that they are part of China and it is just offshore (not like Hawaii) they just think they (Taiwan) should be the ruling party but as the ka man tong who lost the civil war and went to Taiwan then fought with the native Chinese there till they had killed enough of them to take control, maybe that's why they think it is part of China.

[@andrewking9435]

@jerryross9638 yes taiwan was founded by opposition party representing more freedoms and ccp want to crush this like they did with HK

[@andrewking9435]

@jerryross9638 i doubt its what the people want as claimed. This was propaganda and lie

[@walking_luggage8105]

@@andrewking9435 there has never been a country in the world called Taiwan. But Taiwan is actually called the republic of China. This is not propaganda but a fact. You can find a google image of a passport and see it written on the passport. So it is already a part of China. And the constitution of republic of China claims both Taiwan and the. Mainland china, and it is much larger than the map of the people's republic of China. You do know that, right?

[@ThriceGr8]

China wants control of more parts of the ocean which is why they keep expanding their borders into places like the Philippines and Japan. Taiwan is another one of those islands they want control of. With the land comes water supremacy expanded outwards 22km from the island. Artificial islands can be built to claim 22km in radius of water authority.

[@buildmotosykletist1987]

Why are Chinese in Aust having to send food parcels to family in China ???

[@countofmontecristo9846]

Same as other foreign workers sending money back to their country,not only China, you get the picture

[@tinaaroha8205]

No disrespect intended. Wang Xiaolong is not transparent in regards of his accusation who the countries are. And there was a couple of other comments he made I didn't agree on but can't be bothered listening to again.

[@jerryross9638]

we all know he meant - - - - - - - - and did not want to publicly name and shame a nation so in a diplomatic way he left it up to us to decide who we think would fit the description . A good way to ask "what we really think is going on?"

[@alfredfan2154]

You need to read Chinese history. YOU WILL UNDERSTAND CHINESE PEOPLE. CHINESE understand more about New Zealand than Kiwis about China🇨🇳.

[@tinaaroha8205]

@alfredfan2154 Your right, I don't know Chinese history and chose not to. I heard what needed to be heard, I see from what I know of these day's, China is absolutely corrupted as is our Country New Zealand, however not as bad as China as of yet. And history is days of the past, I say this because China isn't what was.

[@tinaaroha8205]

@@jerryross9638 something's are best not said if transparency doesn't follow.

[@konefesa]

I prefer the Chinese relationship then the Americans. Except the human right issues

[@nanyanguo1]

you worry about the fabricated human rights issues in China and not the many real human rights issues in amurika itself ?

[@leetawhara7103]

Who wants to join a coalition with Trump?

[@Go_Home_British_Raj]

Atlas Network and Evangelical Colonial Luxon

[@drednorzt]

@@Go_Home_British_Raj Damn, I had no idea he was an evangelist. That explains quite a bit...

[@JamesClark-cg1qk]

We are aligned with countries who share our values. That excludes China.

[@susanmorrissey3555]

hopefully no one will join with trump. But then we shouldn't bow down to China either