Christopher Luxon denies he's 'out of touch', talks Capital Gains | 30 with Guyon Espiner Ep.7 | RNZ

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon admits he needs to cut back on corporate language after calling voters "customers". Plus, what about a wealth tax? The final word on Capital Gains, in episode 7. Watch 30 with Guyon Espiner every Wednesday at 3pm | Subscribe: ‪@RNZVideo‬

[@LauraTeAhoWhite]

Citizens are not customers. Customers can shop elsewhere if they don't like the way how a business is operating, citizens have to uproot their entire lives to move to another country. There is only one central government (or shop) in the country that people get to vote on every 3 years. That's not comparable to how the market operates where you have accessible choice.

[@adsdft585]

Act and NZ First support National's views. So they believe in them.

[@theothomas4287]

Interesting you take that part of the interview without listening to the justification for using the term. But hey you focus on the negative one word.

[@tanepukenga1421]

Well that was certainly frustrating to listen to Luxon "dismiss" every point made. People dying waiting to be seen in hospital due to luxon's hiring freeze, more cops headed over to australia, over HALF A MILLION Kiwi's reliant on food banks - which are closing in droves. If anyone says he did good for the country, you can call them out for being as much as a liar as Chris.

[@lachland592]

Great to see a journalist give the capital gains tax issue the attention it deserves. Bravo.

[@Jon-wf3wg]

Why has the media latched onto CGT as the silver bullet? Taxing "other people" more does not improve our economy

[@kelbatt7729]

Over the last few months Luxon has sold three of his investment properties for approx. $750 000 tax free profit. Timely aye.?

[@poerava]

Luxon reversed the smoking bill. Roughly 5,000 people die from smoking-related health problems every year, according to Health NZ. Among total Māori deaths, almost a quarter (22.6%) were potentially attributable to smoking, compared with 12.3% among non-Māori and non-Pacific people. The outcome of this reversal of legislation means that more of our tax dollars will be spent on medical costs for those that eventually develop health conditions and lung cancer (around $5,000,000,000 - 5 billion) Also this reversal of legislation means billions of dollars go straight to tobacco big business who profit financially from the addictive nature and harm of tobacco, including harm to our children and babies. These tobacco companies will keep making exorbitant profits because of this government. This is all despite an average of around 80% support rate of the ban. Including smokers. --------- Awareness, Support, and Perceived Impacts of New Zealand’s Smokefree Aotearoa 2025 Legislation Among Adults Who Smoke or Formerly Smoked Findings from the Oct-Dec 2022 EASE/ITC New Zealand Survey • 74% regret starting to smoke • 84% would like to stop smoking • 69% are planning to stop, 31% in the next 6 months • 81% have tried to stop smoking, 41% in the last year • But 87% feel somewhat or very addicted to smoking Search: Young New Zealanders want a tobacco-free future - new research 6 December 2023 Authors: Jude Ball Janet Hole Andrew Waa Janine Nip James Stanley Richard Edwards Findings: 78% of young people support major reductions in tobacco retail outlet numbers, 68% support a law requiring manufacturers to take the nicotine out of smoked tobacco products, 79% in support of the smoke free generation policy and 80% supported the smoking ban. --------- Search: Support for New Zealand's Smokefree 2025 goal and key measures to achieve it: findings from the ITC New Zealand Survey Richard Edwards, Ellie Johnson, James Stanley, Andrew Waa, Janine Ouimet, Geoffrey T. Fong First published: 28 June 2021 69-92% Support the ban --------- In summary, Luxon has the blood of 5000 kiwi souls on his hand. Each. Year. Yes. That’s right. He could have saved 5000 kiwi souls by proceeding with what we the people wanted. Instead he chose to burden us with more health care costs and more death. Fellow Co-Director Associate Professor Andrew Waa at Otago university says: “Implementing this legislation would have reduced smoking prevalence to less than five per cent for all population groups, and brought profound health and wellbeing benefits for everyone.” “It is devastating that we are no longer poised to achieve our goal of a Smokefree Aotearoa. One death from this toxic product is too many. Now we’re faced with the prospect of thousands of unnecessary deaths every year. Māori, in particular, will continue to be harmed.” --------- Please make sure this evil corporate crooked cronie is a one term government and stop their gutting of our health and education systems so they can say ‘see we need to privatise these institutions’ and then give the contracts to their mates and when they’re finished with politics, nek minit, they pop up on these private companies boards. --------- Luxon is the worst we’ve ever had. A money hungry crook that lies through his teeth, doesn’t care about New Zealanders and is a hypocrite.

[@theothomas4287]

Hmm yeah thanks for that diatribe of bollocks I hope it made you feel good.

[@poerava]

@ Any specific point or fact you disagree with?

[@theothomas4287]

@@poerava yep all of it as it is a choice if you smoke or not. So to say X % regret start smoking is just bollocks. There you go one of your many diatribe of points.

[@poerava]

@@theothomas4287 Choice is good. You do know we limit choices to those under 18 right? Maybe you weren’t aware of this. Gambling. Drinking. So you believe in an authoritarian dictator government for NZ? Over 80% wanted the smoking ban and you support the government going ahead with it. Just like how 70% want lowering of speed limits and the government still lifting them. You support this? You sound a bit faschie bro In 2023 the anonymous donation disclosure threshold from NZ$15,000 was dropped to NZ$5,000 and requires parties to report all donations received, including those under $1,500 that were previously exempt from reporting. This is because people wanted this. Is this infringing on peoples choice to donate what they want?

[@nickhorton7898]

@@theothomas4287yes a choice. But it is a highly addictive poison. If we can ban it and stop further generations being sucked in. I know the smoking companies have just changed their tack to target our youth with bubble gum and fruity flavoured poison. Vaping is just as bad. All in all though. It is addiction, just saying people have a choice is a total cop out.

[@anxiouscomic]

Can he stop saying "tax cuts for lower and middle income people" when its the wealthy who also get tax cuts. Can he also stop saying that his "invested record amounts into healthcare" - there has been a massive massive DECLINE in the amount of money per person of the population in decades, and when you take into account inflation its an embarssingly low amount - an incredible amount if underfunding has incurred. If his government is so good why are all the things they show off about half truths or just completely dishonest?

[@jamiemarshall4738]

Also "tax cuts" but what they mean is we'll slap more charges onto people in other ways to make the cost of living higher... Bloody awesome isn't it? 😂

[@helencampbell7651]

We need people with a lot of money to pay their fair share of taxes. That would help everyone.

[@tiffanytwisted9659]

This is the answer to everything wrong here. He's a terrible skinsuit

[@theothomas4287]

Yeah well I pay a shitload of tax with no ability to get any support from the government and I am a low to middle income earner. As for the top 1-2% of the earners they pay the major of the tax take and yet the bottom earners invariable get the majority of their tax back due to child subsidy, rent subsidy, etc. so don’t lecture on people paying more in tax.

[@kelbatt7729]

Upper echelon wealth concentration is Earths Number 1 problem. Progressive governments need to implement new tax regimes and wealth redistribution mandates.

[@theothomas4287]

@@kelbatt7729 and your answer is?

[@AiriniSamuels]

luxon is Not PM material , he is Not focus on Wellbeing of NZ People as he supports policies that downgrade Peoples rights to Wellbeing across sectors of NZ environment. Not a astute business man by his actions of agreement by government policies effecting those people who left NZ for a better life therefore losing Tax revenue income and government outgoing money increasing short term and long term through ill thought out policies. Send this Government out next election

[@PennyLane4566]

Thanks Guyon, really liked the questions you put forward. I would have liked it more had you emphasised that Luxon has sold 2 more properties since. This interview is a confirmation for me that he really is out of touch and doesn’t take any responsibility for his actions. Nothing but excuses or blaming somebody else. Whether he is a career politician or not, he is the Prime Minister and needs to act like the Prime Minister of NZ. We are not customers!

[@theothomas4287]

So he sold properties and that is a bad thing. For goodness sake your comments show you dislike anyone who owns more than one property and selling them is a bad thing. As for your comment he is out of touch is again a misnomer in that he does understand and is trying to rectify an economy and a deficit that was way worse than we knew.

[@PennyLane4566]

@@theothomas4287 I don’t dislike people who own properties, but I do dislike corrupt members of the government who change policies or legislation for their own gain. In this case, Luxon changed the bright line test and made a profit out of it not long after the changes were made. The fact he doesn’t see any problem with that is out of touch. It is a conflict of interest and corrupt. I would feel the same if it was Chippy. I understand and respect that you have a different opinion to mine. That’s all good. Have a nice day.

[@LynetteLovini-Riki]

Thankyou this interview is spot on.I will share this with all I can .No confidence.

[@kelbatt7729]

@@theothomas4287 Why does every new government say that "things are way worse than we thought", i don't believe it.

[@theothomas4287]

@ when Labor took office in 2016 they thanked the previous government for providing them with a stable and fiscally strong economy and budget. In 6 years they wasted that benefit and Covid was not fully responsible it was their waste of monies and inability to keep a check on how the money was spent as there were no KPI’s or measures in place. So this government can rightfully comment on an economy and finance that is a mess and rightfully so.

[@garycody1929]

As usual Luxon full of nonsense as he tries to please everyone. Guyon time for your moko.

[@theothomas4287]

You must hate the truth after 6 years of listening to the pulpit of truth?!

[@Kelvinpaul4]

Unfortunately for NZ, Chris is out of touch, particularly with macro economics. No Country that has applied austerity financial policies has succeeded in growing GDP, most countries found austerity measures have increased Public and private sectors debt. What's more, world renowned and respected Macroeconomists rail against implementation of austerity measures. Yet right wing politicians believe their kindergarten knowledge and understanding of economics overrules current economic theory, which is confirmed, by historical outcomes of austerity policies implement in Europe and yet we have a government that blindly believes austerity is the way to go.

[@JamesFaction]

Very well put. Luxon constantly lies about National being "better on the economy" and yet Labour outperforms National every time in the last 40 years, the previous Labour govt outperformed this coalition so far also.

[@annatetiad.4991]

@@JamesFaction he was not elected - he was selected. A WEF leader -

[@FrankCoggan]

So whats your claim to fame ?

[@Kelvinpaul4]

@@JamesFaction yes, amusing the myths National has promulgated for years, when publicly available data and statistics doesn't support their claims of being superior financial managers. However the voters never let facts get in the way of Tribal/class politics.

[@chrispeteru8217]

Thanks for that.

[@matakitaki1]

18:00 yea but Real estate is not productive Luxon so your interest deductibility is not in that catagory, you should know this, you have now stated it is, you are either lying or out of touch.

[@chrismckellar9350]

More monotone corporate waffle from a PM that is all talk with little plans. He knows that New Zealand has an economic and political system that is based on 'for profit at least cost' neoliberal economic and governance with an average wage, predominantly service and consumption based, high import of most every day items, property buying/investing/selling, large raw product producing/small manufacturing base, low financial return service and raw product export economy. How is his government going to generate the so call wealth he keeps going on about.

[@theothomas4287]

Hmm you obviously couldn’t understand the clear and concise plan his government has. The pulpit of truth is no longer here Chris so you now have to come into the real world and listen to reality.

[@starcop]

the thing that gets me is when questioned on saying customers 7:44 he corrects himself to voters which really shows his mindset, he doesn't serve all the people of new zealand, the country he leads, he serves the people who voted for him

[@pwollerman]

Blame Labour AGAIN. FFS

[@dash-kt7uf]

Yep and keep on blaming them

[@theothomas4287]

Yep and they certainly put this country in a big financial hole. However Luxon did go on to state what his government is doing to rectify the last government’s financial mismanagement.

[@everardwhangapirita]

Hey Guyon, I bet ya if this guy gets a second term that he’ll Privatise Health to a profit centre like the States.

[@tomrobinson8593]

Yes thats what he ultimately wants to do.. Privatising businesses so that this Government wouldn't need to fork out for anything unpredictable, like labour had to do during the covid period. In fact a lot of those businesses that got a hand out during that time, eventually turned their backs on labour, when they were given a deadline to pay the money back, mostly pocketed the money for personal use instead of saving their businesses from closing shop and then they begrudgingly voted national back in saying labour are stink asses, they did nothing for us!!...and then the first thing national did after the election was give the landlords some repreive and a huge sum of counterfeit money and told them to spend it wisely.... on the pokies!!

[@mobbarley7517]

Is private Healthcare in nz better than the public system?

[@everardwhangapirita]

@ I’ve been in high paying jobs since I was 17, I had Ultra Care, Southern Crosses top plan at the time. So yes is the answer but I know that the public service is about giving good care to the population that can’t pay for Private. But further than that, allowing public funds to prop up private industry is BS.

[@tiffanytwisted9659]

​@@mobbarley7517not if you tax the rich the same as everyone else?

[@mobbarley7517]

@tiffanytwisted9659 the top 10% of the population pay 50% of the total tax are you suggesting they only pay 10%

[@Tokolosh-v5n]

Top journalist. Great interview. Mike Hoskins is overrated and can learn a thing or two from you.

[@Nicole.1828]

Luxon never fails to disappoint

[@theothomas4287]

You maybe however for me he is tackling some hard economic realities. You may not like his government’s response however I am happy that he is making people accountable and cutting wasteful spending. At the same time his government is spending money where it is needed and ensuring that the spending outcomes are being measured. Hard for some to understand however do some research and you might learn something.

[@MrHart450]

@@theothomas4287 3 billion dollars spent on landlords.......... money well spent?

[@AmeliaRosehe1]

Luxon has not fixed a single thing because he was never going to.

[@tiffanytwisted9659]

Says a lot but doesn't answer questions! In the business of selling! Not listening to experts and the masses is not democracy

[@Go_Home_British_Raj]

Only the Chosen Customers go to Evangelical Landlord Heaven. Not the Land Owner Māori Customers.

[@ahorrell]

Well, good on Luxon for fronting up. Now he can on Jack Tame

[@mobbarley7517]

Jack's busy in America shilling for abortion

[@fumikoisadog3023]

Don’t hold your breath waiting 😂

[@GumballEdits]

He's such a corporate cut out, wow. Literally the perfect national MP in a fucked up way.

[@touch3010]

beats the ass off socialist bludgers who just want to tax more from the same pool and give it to beneficiaries plus services of course. Margaret Thatcher said it best, "The trouble with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money!". Winston had another take, "its like standing in a bucket and trying to lift yourself out of the hole by the handle!"

[@JamesClark-cg1qk]

You'd rather someome with no financial acumen ran the country?

[@touch3010]

@@JamesClark-cg1qk Agree, yea like Grant with qualification bachelor of arts the Finance minister...ye right

[@GumballEdits]

@@JamesClark-cg1qk Where was that implied? Are you high?

[@Peter-kk6rg]

He so entitled,he is dangerous to New Zealand.

[@touch3010]

Jacinda was faaaar more dangerous. Any party that wants to take more of your money and give it to others is dangerous. Margaret Thatcher said it best, "The trouble with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of other peoples money!". Winston had another take, "its like standing in a bucket and trying to lift yourself out of the hole by the handle!"

[@bdub884]

He came from normal background, went to uni, worked his way up, hardly entitled. Entitled would be someone who was born into a family business

[@Peter-kk6rg]

@bdub884 He makes large amounts of money selling and buying houses and pays no.Why hard working New Zealanders pay tax and see nothing wrong in that.Thats entirely entitled person indeed who what's over people to carry the burden for him.

[@susankirby4273]

@@bdub884 He certainly is entitled now.

[@WayToManyAssassins]

@@Peter-kk6rg Tall poppy syndrome detected!

[@helencampbell7651]

You have made it hard for people to feel secure and safe in their rental homes by giving all the power to the landlords and none to the tenants.

[@watchth1ngs]

How many times does Mr Soundbite say "the reality is" is this interview?

[@nickhorton7898]

Or “let me put it to you this way” or “let me just say to you”. Ffs

[@rrr96100]

Our middle class is shrinking…

[@TonyWhite-x3c]

Because they are going to Australia for employment and better opportunities. In 2025 in NZ the banks and economists note that our unemployment rate is going to be 6%. Little hope for middle NZ. In the mid 1980s the then Labour government collapsed the NZ industrial economy putting 300,000 people out of work. No government since has addressed this issue. FFS Don't talk about NZ productivity. We have become a nation of baristas and canoe guides because of political design. Australia here we come

[@rrr96100]

@ I think the unofficial unemployment rate here is already 6% or higher since the current figure doesn’t not cover the demographics that have lost jobs and left the county and have lost jobs and are not eligible for benefits.

[@rrr96100]

@ I’m part of the middle here and have been squeezed hard by the government this year

[@marionthomas3736]

He just doesn't stop talking and virtually says nothing. It's impossible to shut him up.

[@SpecialKVintage]

He he, I'm just about to watch it a second time for that very reason. There must be something in there somewhere. Surely? 😊

[@Kiwiskirt]

@@SpecialKVintage good luck, I couldn't spot any lol

[@FrankCoggan]

@@marionthomas3736 At least he knows what he is talking about, not like the previous two PMs they both totally lacked business and people management skills.

[@marciaerenamcnab7737]

Word salad

[@fumikoisadog3023]

@@FrankCoggan😂😂😂😂😂

[@JamesFaction]

"points to falling interest rates"... That are falling at exactly the rate predicted by Labour's outgoing financial statement. So they have massively degraded NZ's public services, driven up govt debt, extended an economic recession, and made no difference to interest rates at all Oh and the LIES about the income tax cuts... 50% of that money from the tax cuts went to the TOP 7% of income earners. Low and middle income earners got a pittance. And the lie: "record amount of money going into the health system". The increase in funding does not keep up with inflation. He is lying.

[@jeanrichardson2044]

Don't forget the bragging about the provision of lower cost housing and getting families out of motels. Admittedly the bragging has come from the housing minister on behalf of the coalition, but the only reason this is happening is that the Labour Party initiated large scale Kainga Ora provision of housing, which the Coalition is dead keen to halt......

[@peterhickey728]

How have they degraded the Public Service? It was seriously politicized under Labour. Even now many public servants carry out their job with red-tinted glasses. Sack them.

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@jeanrichardson2044 "Making NZ homeless again!"

[@MountainTui]

Excellent interview

[@tiffanytwisted9659]

Taxing the rich is the actual answer here. Tax them at least the same as everyone else or stand down!

[@kelbatt7729]

He will not, for he is one of them.

[@LynetteLovini-Riki]

Hes an utter joke.

[@creid110]

Cost of petrol and groceries are still too high. What are you doing about it??

[@a.j.ponderbooks]

Lining his own pockets. Remember his "I'm sorted" comments. I mean he should have fired Willis after her ferry fiasco, let alone her tanking of the NZ economy for tax cuts that only help the ultra wealthy as we are all paying more in rates, transport etc.

[@stoneageart9965]

drill baby drill

[@adsdft585]

Why did the PM organise the order paper in Parliament to mean the Treaty Principal Bill was introduced when he was not usually in Wellington and Parliament. Why?

[@helencampbell7651]

The small tax cut we got is much less than the extra costs imposed by National and their policies.

[@patriceking9583]

Would you prefer the extra costs with no tax cut???? Or worse still even higher costs?

[@ahklys1321]

@@patriceking9583 real nice logic lol

[@a.j.ponderbooks]

Can't help but see that he gets out of Wellington as fast as he can. Can't admit that he took "entitlements" he shouldn't have been entitled to & then does the Key lie/misstatement that he's giving away money but there are never any receipts. And now he's lying about his destruction of community centred school lunches. Another grift by the look of it, going to a company that has a record of bribery and spoiled food. And our kids are supposed to eat this. Can't keep listening to his lies. If he wanted the rich to do the right thing he'd tax people and make it fair-rather than giving billions to billionaires.

[@yesterday1396]

No matter how much he smiles he represents the ultra wealthy in this country.

[@mobbarley7517]

Lower networth than Jacinda

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@mobbarley7517 - he has more wealth than Jacinda

[@touch3010]

@@chrismckellar9350 Why is Jacinda wealthy? how? You don't get rich on a PM salary in two terms. And before that she was a career politicin, never left school, never had a real job, never owned a business. So, how is it she is wealthy?

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@mobbarley7517 Why do you lie all the time? Even in the comment above this one you lied about people paying "50% of the tax take" but when I looked it up it was only 8%, now this? Again, something we can all find on google. Just in houses alone he has more than double Ardern's wealth, which she made working for kiwi's.

[@JamesClark-cg1qk]

Hah, Adern works for herself, no one else.

[@KieranandAndrew]

Why is Guyon interjecting and rushing Luxon?! Why did he invite him on the show to ask questions like “so you could work with a convicted felon”? This format of interview and the gotcha questions are outdated and redundant.

[@adsdft585]

A NZ economist stated that in the 1960s 20% of our population was involved in manufacturing but now it was 7%. What changed since 1970? Gold standard gone, neoliberal economics became the norm, less unionization, deregulated banking, fiscal and monetary policy split, and the debt based economy .

[@watchth1ngs]

Luxon came into politics to get a knighthood - its as simple as that. Ego all the way.

[@johnbach8340]

This gvmt will kiss trumps posterior and smile while doing it.

[@EM-uu6zv]

Inherited a mess, he is the mess

[@dash-kt7uf]

Typical lefty attacking the person and not the policy - so immature and we all know why

[@jeanrichardson2044]

We are not customers, we are the public of New Zealand, some of whom voted you in to power.

[@ahklys1321]

Going round in circles, this country.

[@helencampbell7651]

You're mistaken, Mr Luxon. People are leaving because of your government and policies.

[@roseannabrowns8236]

He won't doing 2 term

[@SamuelHodges-j3q]

Landlords are not businesses!! Why should they be treated as such?

[@ooo-vc4xl]

You simply dont get it Luxon. Capital Gains - The tax system is so biased that NZ has wasted $500bn bidding up land prices rather than going into productive businesses. No CGT, no gift tax and no inheritance tax simply badly distorts the playing field. Rent - NZ has some of the highest rent/income ratios in the world. NZ has 100,000 households in energy poverty, companies going under, and now we are facing even more power price increases while the govt gouges dividends and tax take. We have to grow the country - NZ has had 7 quarters of negative gdp/capita growth. All set out in National's budget docs. I'm sorry, you need to be sacked. You have no understanding of the real problems NZ faces.

[@kelbatt7729]

A business shouldn't have to close because it cant afford it's power bill, the first time I have ever of heard this in this country.

[@rickyaknz]

Same old talking points and no real policy.

[@tessaflatt7026]

Great questions Guyon!

[@MarjorieMaclean]

He's just a boastful windbag.

[@rae5046]

Exactly. Total agreement. Thank you

[@danielcarroll4936]

Luxon is shallow and devious, his supporters are lying when they defend his narrow approach to new zealanders.

[@JamesClark-cg1qk]

Rubbish

[@Staxsgurl]

At least you got an interview, he’s too scared of Jack Tame to go on Q&A.

[@pwollerman]

People only say “To be honest” when they plan not to be.

[@everardwhangapirita]

This guy and sound bites is next level

[@danielharding2584]

Why are we still asking the same old same old questions? Our journalism needs to lift its questions

[@drednorzt]

My 'Mum & dad' landlord has about 15 houses, and spends his time either traveling, or complaining about how hard it is doing less than the bare minimum to look after all his properties. And he is one of the good ones...

[@helencampbell7651]

But the Te Tiriti bill is a waste of money. How is this honouring your plan of not wasting one dollar of taxpayers money?

[@tiffanytwisted9659]

Out of touch? He knows exactly what he's doing! Can we get some behavioral analysis on this creature?

[@adsdft585]

Productive investment! The PM could answer this questions to move money away from property investment.

[@douglasrushbrooke786]

Get rid of government out of our life

[@khoorirune4573]

Course he is out of touch.He is our Prime Minister!

[@ColleenIves-f9q]

The body language/face tells me he completely lying about not waiting for the bright line test before selling his Wellington apartment. Trying to make out he came from a challenging background - oh please. He also would also have got his university education while it was free.

[@stuartmunro2474]

He's not much worse than average - but the reality is that we've had four decades of lazy, stupid, and fabulously irresponsible governments. This clown thinks it's acceptable that young people no longer expect to be able to afford basics like their own house. NZ needs a hard reset, and that needs to begin with sacking useless talking heads like this - and that goes right across the house - there might be three people there that are worth their pay - but probably not.

[@simplygreen5832]

I'd argue eight at this point but whose counting. Decades of mismanagement have stripped this nation bare.

[@stoneageart9965]

@@simplygreen5832 the last government stripped over 50% in their few years.

[@hwcanotabot]

Time to stop looking east or west, and start looking within. Start fixing the country. I'd START with the GCSB.

[@MarjorieMaclean]

Ireland is in the EU. He's a tool.

[@helencampbell7651]

What about the ferries?

[@Quentin-br5kl]

What is KIWI SAVER FOR?. Wasnt it said at the time it was introduced it's a saving scheme for ALL NZers to BUY THEIR FIRST HOME? Or is it now a scheme to PAY RENT TO LANDLORDS.

[@gavinsutton7724]

Backwards we go nz.

[@dash-kt7uf]

Couldn’t disagree more

[@douglasrushbrooke786]

Get government out of our lives

[@tommcg7564]

You know what happens after you 'get government out of our lives?

[@andrewlim9345]

Luxon seems steeped in the business and marketing worldview. His description of citizens as customers was very telling. At least National has now embraced MMP.

[@kelbatt7729]

He lied about rents going down. I checked my own town and five others around it- every single one of them has had rent increases over the last year of 10-12%.

[@helencampbell7651]

Productivity over people.

[@Turok_Nz]

NZ's greatest disappointment

[@Choice679]

There is nothing new in what Luxon said and is indistinguishable from Key. The hypothetical speech Luxon made to the 30 year old headed off to Australia would have simply been recorded by them and used put them to sleep during the 3 hour flight across the ditch.

[@helencampbell7651]

We need a Capital Gains Tax.

[@peterhickey728]

A CGT on what? Your benefit?

[@dash-kt7uf]

We need to reduce benefits!!

[@beamaksimovic3349]

Capital gains tax at point of sale on investment properties is a fair tax system bringing it in line with businesses who pay tax along the way

[@zeroyon4562]

The party that brings in CGT gets my vote. Add in inheritance tax and means tested super and I’m a lifetime voter.

[@bentomlin8183]

Luxon is genuine in his answers. Guyon is asking question and not listening to the answers. Also taking every opportunity to insult and disrespect. Just because its popular opinion that Luxon is not well liked, doesnt mean Guyon should act like an angsty teenager. Treat even the poeple you dislike Guyon, with respect, and youll get better at interviewing

[@fumikoisadog3023]

How gullible are you to think his answers are genuine?! Most of what he said was BS 😂

[@tanepukenga1421]

lol, sure buddy, and the sky is neon green

[@MarjorieMaclean]

His answers are genuinely ignorant.

[@larahamilton6353]

Mans at 23:45 is acting like his kids don’t inherent his 7 properties

[@MacWilliams9825]

Let the Man Speak, We understand you have opinions but we are not here for your opinion.....

[@tanepukenga1421]

Bot. Made last year, with no activity on anything but this comment.

[@shaunholdsworth2670]

When are we going to get a non bias media ?

[@yingle6027]

The one who's "out of touch" here is Guyon and his failing RNZ. State funded media is NZ is at all time record lows of trust and ratings. No one has been given more tax-payer money and continued to fail as hard as RNZ. Wish someone would bring this up with them.

[@stoneageart9965]

I agree they are not news they are propaganda and race dividing evil. Mind you much like the left's racism,RNZ is dying a slow death, You can tell. Nothing screams louder than that which is dying.

[@Jack-v6s7j]

Congratulations, Chris! You made it through the interview without resorting to physically assaulting the interviewer. I don't think many would have had the discipline to keep answering the loaded, puerile questions. Obviously, Guyon, trained in the arts of Marxism and "Wokism," seemed as smarmy as they come. It’s like he was trained by the radical leftist Willie Jackson. This highlights, yet again, what we’ve had to put up with when our mainstream media is dominated by far-left journalists. I see this as a major underlying problem for our democracy; the same problem exists in education. You will not get a fair go from these undercover Marxists. The government funds these organizations, so it's time for something to be done.

[@fumikoisadog3023]

Cooker says what?

[@Staxsgurl]

Cry harder.

[@luckyM9963]

I would have left in the middle of the interview.

[@adsdft585]

Grow the country! Only importing new people.

[@ideaWorld403]

To be honest im not bothered at him referring to the nz public as customers. After 6 years of labour, i think its a good thing having the guy in charge understanding he is here to serve US. With Jacinda and Labour i always felt we were here to serve her/them, their agenda, their ideology.

[@fumikoisadog3023]

If you think this clown is serving the people, you’re delusional. I suspect you’re a COVID cooker who can’t move on from being in lockdown which helped save 20,000 lives.

[@tanepukenga1421]

A customer can go elsewhere. So good job, we've lost an entire generation of kiwi's off shore. You got what you wanted

[@r.1599]

I hate how interviewers tend to cut people's answers off, in this country. Fine and dandy when they're waffling, but too many times it's done when the guest is trying to actually answer the question. It's being used as a tool to give the guest a hard time rather than keep the interview on track.

[@badchefi]

Chris wouldn’t shut up and keep control - you need to look up what journalism entails.

[@r.1599]

@@badchefi Getting facts and answers?

[@stoneageart9965]

that is how Marxist work lies and half truths

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@r.1599 He wasn't answering anything. His response to half of kiwi's thinking he's out of touch was to reject HALF THE COUNTRY

[@PennyLane4566]

@@r.1599 Luxon just waffles on and says the same sound bites he always says. He never answers the questions and just wastes the time away. They only have 30 minutes and journalists have to interrupt in order to keep within the time. I wish he would answer honestly and openly but he continues to disappoint. He has always been this way.

[@adsdft585]

Stats NZ released cencus data. Household increased by $25,000 between 2018 to 2023. Given inflation and the banks charing higher interest rates. ( average $5,000 increase in income per year.). What has happened under the three party government in a single year? Have households incomes increased by$5k.

[@adsdft585]

He talked about more money for health but never mentioned the pay equity and holiday pay liabilities as at 30 June 2024. Why?

[@douglasrushbrooke786]

Responsible !

[@Topseller99]

Great interview Guyon...I voted for this chap...Good things do take time...Grant & Co made a massive mess less we forget....

[@fumikoisadog3023]

Topseller thinks a Aaa+ rated economy, out of a recession with low unemployment is a mess!! 😂😂😂 Topseller is happy with GDP going backwards Economy back in recession High unemployment Higher crime Higher cost of living and a Health system under funded. I blame people like you for voting this 🤡 in.

[@bdub884]

@@fumikoisadog3023 All those things take years to develop, which means previous government to blame. 🤡

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@fumikoisadog3023 Remember, we lost the plus when we went up in corruption rankings when Key was in last.

[@adsdft585]

Productivity has changed since 1980s due neoliberal economics and debt based economics.

[@bella22728]

Beneficiary's pay tax!!

[@adsdft585]

Why is the government not building homes( dwellings)? They must be able to build and sell for a price lower than private business in that there not need to be return on capital as return is health of NZ. ( 40% can be state houses like the 1930s and balance sold.

[@LONEWOLF78.]

Defund Politicians these rich ppl don't know what it's like to struggle. They are responsible for the poor/working class /middle class struggling while they get wealthier.

[@LynetteLovini-Riki]

But the all will be debt free,mortgage free and millions in bank.

[@DylanR155]

A classic interview, yet another example of why the trust in media is in the basement and only getting lower. Why did you even get the PM on (that you clearly don't like) if you talk over him the entire time and not give him the opportunity to answer your questions? It's rather ironic that the majority of NZ continue to support this govt in spite of the vast majority of the medias fervent flapping and opposition to it. If you want to talk out of touch, it's you guys in the media that are out of touch. The majority of kiwis actually support the Treaty Principles Bill, but of course you wont publicise that.

[@tanepukenga1421]

Said the bot account made 5 days ago.

[@DylanR155]

@@tanepukenga1421 no bot account here...

[@lornaperkins7042]

No THEY DO NOT

[@simonsays1234]

What a joke The interviewer was just after a got you moment

[@dash-kt7uf]

Couldn’t agree more

[@r.1599]

Re: Capital Gains tax "...you don't tax your way out of a recession..." But it can _help,_ if part of the reason you're in as deep as you are is because of the lack of a Capital Gains Tax.

[@mobbarley7517]

The recession has nothing to do with lack of tax, the last government had a higher tax take than ever before

[@r.1599]

@@mobbarley7517 The types of tax a country has helps shape the form of its economy, which in turn, helps shape how that country handles a pandemic and global financial crisis. If there had been a Capital Gains tax in place before, the economy would function differently and be in different shape to deal with 2020 onwards.

[@stoneageart9965]

@@r.1599 No it would just mean no one would own houses and they would all be owned by a few large landlords who would never sell. GST Income tax extra we are over taxed . Lets stop borrowing be on our means,not rocket science

[@r.1599]

@@stoneageart9965 Cearly it wouldn't be a flat Capital Gains tax...it would have to be fine tuned, applied situationally, like being applied to sales of stock for large capital gains, for example. Small private homeowners...not so much.

[@stoneageart9965]

@@r.1599 ISnt that what we already got ?. If you flip a house within 10 yrs you pay capital gains. What MSM preaches is that if you own a house for 30yrs do all the repairs and maintenance. They will slam you when you retire so your kids get nothing

[@LesleyWard-x6q]

Absolutely love you Christopher Luxon. You are working so hard and finally turning this country around. Thank goodness!

[@fumikoisadog3023]

What is turning around? GDP has gone backwards Unemployment is up Cost of living is up Crime is up Hospitals having to shut their doors Yeah he’s working real hard to destroy our country lol

[@chrismckellar9350]

What is has he changes in 12 months other than a lot of talking?

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@chrismckellar9350 He brought back mass homelessness. People are dying in ER, with less staff there to look after them. There's less police. We all pay more for everything, including tolls and taxes.

[@chrismckellar9350]

@@tanepukenga1421 - Yep he has. This is the effects of neoliberal economic and governance.

[@Staxsgurl]

@@chrismckellar9350it’s a BOT

[@petraginns7326]

Let’s just take a step back and

[@TewhekeHeke]

We can clearly see your not a career politician, an entry level politician would have handled the questions better.

[@simplygreen5832]

Like Trump?

[@stoneageart9965]

@@simplygreen5832 what someone not preaching devises race policies ?,how dare he and lets promote sex changes for babies too,lmao

[@tanepukenga1421]

@@simplygreen5832 lol, read it properly.

[@simplygreen5832]

@@tanepukenga1421 a huh... yeah.. an entry level politician with better answers than Luxon, Trump. Checks out.

[@douglasrushbrooke786]

You have to be positive thank guyan are you doing your part

[@gavinsutton7724]

Inheritance really😅😅😅