China's Big Problem: The Rise of Obesity

Victim of a terrible famine in the early 1960s that killed nearly 20 million people, China is now facing a new scourge: obesity. 100 million Chinese people are overweight. Although it is a disease particularly prevalent among adolescents, affecting 20% of boys and 10% of girls, even babies are being born at more than six kilos. A phenomenon never before seen in the country’s history.
Expansion and economic growth have changed the lifestyles of Chinese people, who are now consuming more and more Western-style food. Traditional Chinese food, which is generally quite healthy, has been replaced by “junk food” and the portions have doubled or even tripled. The overconsumption of fat and sugar coupled with sedentary lifestyles and the one-child policy have caused rates of obesity to skyrocket. The Chinese authorities are tackling this epidemic with former prison camps for overweight people run by soldiers. Television shows, smartphone applications, doctors and nutritionists are encouraging the entire nation to get into shape.
In this documentary, we visit China to explain why obesity rates are rising, and how weight loss has become a national issue. How has China progressed from a starving country at the beginning of the 21st century to having one of the highest obesity rates in the world?
Director: Gwenlaouen Le Gouil

[@Roaming725]

Telling the kids to not laugh while exercising is so counterproductive. They need to learn to enjoy exercising, not feel like they're being punished!

[@Linnetd]

I agree, but different cultures have different values. Some cultures value serious discipline over fun in matters like this

[@kurvys]

to be fair, they were former militaristically trained soldiers. In the chinese communist party. That is a hell of its own kind. A hell none of these kids will hopefully ever have to experience. so i dont blame them for getting irate in these conditions when all they've been trained to do for work is to be serious, be stern, and be stoic at all times.

[@freezingicy9457]

@@Linnetd Respectfully, I think those values are shit

[@observador88]

@@freezingicy9457Shut up, at least in their country have "diversity" and drug user everywhere

[@ByAzuraByAzuraByAzura]

@@Linnetd That's a very unproductive value in regards to exercise unfortunately. These camps are gonna make children fatter because they'll associate exercise with negativity, pain and no fun. It already happened to America in the 90s to early 2000s

[@jessediblasi3034]

The 12 year old boy talking about seeing his family members in his dreams while having such a great attitude about not being able to talk to his Mom that night. Wow, heart of gold that one.

[@MethodiousMind]

I agree. He’s a very sweet and amazing child.

[@LifeAdviceSite]

Right?! I’m a mother of a boy that age and even I’m not that mature about it if I miss out talking to my loved ones. 😂

[@joshuawargo6446]

I dont think i have seen anything that brought such light tears of joy as much as this did. You are SO correct. That young man is TRULY a good soul. It saddens me many like this will be hardened or turned cynical by the way the world is now. yet i do hold SOME hope that MAYBE if there are MORE of us that act like THAT....and if we work TOGETHER , maybe we as a people can actually start getting along instead of committing the same cycles of violence, abuse, anger, and ignorance that we as a species have gone through for generations, I TRULY hope that we can slowly start to move past that, and as a people start to be empathic towards each other as a whole. Bless that young man, and may he have a good life. Edit: Plus just wanted to mention the wisdom of that older female chef. she truly understand the link between quality of food to quality of life.

[@giftsvampen]

he looks like kim jong un

[@baam25th31]

I don't even understand why he is there, he is chubby not too heavy. He would be hitting puberty in a year or two, and the weight would have adjusted. Based on how he talked about his family, it should have been very easy to convince him to eat healthier. The academy is actually making these kids despise healthy eating. You don't force people to lose weight that quickly by feeding them disgusting food. Cook them healthy and tasty food that isn't oily or fried. And maybe offer the parents cooking classes to make such dishes. Just felt like they are making sure the kids relapse and keep coming back for as long as possible.

[@melodysun8241]

The subtitles are so misleading. Most of the time the interviewees are expressing neutral feelings but the subtitles appear to be negative

[@honeyOTU_]

this seems to be a common issue with foreign documentaries, I'll just come out and say it's most likely racial bias so that westerners can have a negative view of other cultures.

[@kozuamee]

It’s so disrespectful, they make Chinese people seem negative about some kind of aspect and as a person speaking mandarin, this is sad

[@Asianpotato77]

ABC here, yeah the subittles are misleading as the comment sugggests

[@DeputyFish]

x to doubt. considering most of china is smart enough to see there problems@@honeyOTU_

[@jugo1944]

Asian women are too skinny. It's not a problem yet, they have some margin to play w.

[@byebosco]

Subtitles are so inaccurate. She said that walking isn’t a problem and the editors put it as “really hard for me”.

[@rayy4pres194]

I’m glad I came across this comment. Her body language said the opposite of the subtitle.

[@teehee.1862]

Thanks for convincing me not to watch this documentary

[@HanaMarshmallows]

oooh one of ya'll should translate this documentary properly.

[@meows..]

幸好听得明白中文🫡

[@liamjohanssen7888]

Ugh that’s terrible

[@wobbuffetbuffet]

The father dropping his kid off at fat camp is also overweight. It would be mutually beneficial if they started exercising and eating better together. Otherwise the child will loose weight and just gain it back when they go back home. Best of luck to them both though.

[@ambersummer2685]

Could have saved money and lost weight together. Also a nice way to bond with your child.

[@Brandi-xy2dz]

He wanted to protect his son from what he is gone through losing weight wen ur older than this is harder

[@sarahlennox8963]

I had a weight problem as a teen. My mom's solution? We went to aerobics together. We walked every night together. We ate better together. She didn't eat like garbage and then tell me to eat better. I wasn't made to feel like I was an issue. She just changed the things *she* was in control of with me. We had the closest relationship ever, and I was the one with her when she died ❤. Her first cancer diagnosis (we're fairly sure we know why she had cancer, it was the same reason everyone was dying in her area she grew up in.. it's actually a devastating story) we really changed our lifestyles together. She changed my life for the better in every way. My kids are healthy weights for their age and it's because of her and how she raised me. We practice what we preach and eat healthy WITH our kids and move WITH our kids ❤

[@Akagism]

@@sarahlennox8963 You and your mother had a beautiful relationship, and you passed that love along to your own children. I wish more people could have a parent like yours.

[@AnthonyRusso93]

The myth of a big metabolic rate drop that occurs well after the real one when when growth stops most people think there is not actually real one in the early 30s this myth persists in ALL cultures he can't do anything because he was forfeited all control and has adopted a helpless mindset and that is kind of obstacle that is counterintuitively harder to overcome than an actual factually existing obstacle

[@johnsullivan8673]

The translation is terrible and possibly due to editorial bias. For example, the winner of the "biggest loser" didn't say he cries due to bad memory, but he "can't really point to why he cries, maybe it's due to the painful memory, maybe it's due to how treasured these memories were". Also, the nutritionist at dicos didn't complain about the sauce being strong, but being spicy. There are A LOT of translation shortcuts being taken here, and some of them changes the context.

[@inspectahgrease]

I was thinking something about the translations seemed off!!

[@39Fanclub]

Thanks for pointing it out!

[@user-jo3st1xs1q]

I also noticed the same for some other translations. I speak French, Japanese and Korean and when my sister and I watch something with the English subs it makes us so angry because we’re like “ if it’s such a big Hollywood movie or professionally made production, documentary etc. couldn’t they find a translator that’s well versed in the culture and language they’re translating so that things aren’t lost in translation?” It screams laziness, and disrespect for the language and culture. It makes me irrationally angry 😅

[@zipzapkpop]

@@user-jo3st1xs1q I work in the localization industry. It's because the film/TV industry pay peanuts with extremely tight deadlines. Most reputable and experienced translators would never take those jobs. Worst sort of clients, imo. They would want a whole season translated in 5 days, so the results aren't surprising lol

[@synkknys]

There were also lines added in that were never even spoken. For instance when the dad supposedly says "So tonight it's party time!" Yet he never actually says that.

[@sonderson5924]

the craziest part is these individuals would be considered "mid-sized" in america...

[@chumchum8154]

they'll only get worse. America will get skinny, and China will be fat

[@caiuscosades362]

Asians don't put on the pounds as much as other ethnicities all diet's being equal, but they will experience the same poor health issues like diabetes and heart disease, which can be more pernicious because by the time their weight is affecting their mobility, their poor diets would have done much more damage to their organs and metabolic system comparatively to someone who puts one more weight faster.

[@MegaMiaow]

Yes someof those plus sized models look like an average weight person over here.

[@Snezit]

In Mexico they are considered thin

[@sahulianhooligan7046]

Mid size sedans

[@TheOriginalMarimoChan]

If the translations are correct, little Jiahow's story (17:03) is the saddest. He seems to love his family so much, including his mom, who hangs up on him, but he's in constant denial thinking she really loves him. And when he said he is spiritually connected to her, his late dad and his uncle was good as he didn't need to pay any data fees...made me tear up. I hope he finds unconditional love when he grows older, because he has a beautiful soul.

[@freemagicfun]

The fat camp for the kids is not going to do any long term good. After rehab, drug and alcohol users are told to change friends to get out of dangerous situations. The kids are being sent right back to parents and grandparents that allowed them to get fat in the first place. There is a much deeper need than just a 3 week exercise camp.

[@Aimaiai]

yeah in north america we had those in the 90s and 2000s with that bs about getting active when overeating and unhealthy food are most of the issue. Instead of regulating food companies that make the addictive food, those companies lobbied to place half assed fitness programs in schools which didnt do anything to stop kids from eating more calories than their upkeep.

[@petersuvara]

Absolutely, it's about changing habits and building fitness and good eating into your lifestyle. Training camps should setup a regiment of exercise and good eating habits as a long term solution. It's just so easy to fall back into high calorie diets these days when 99% of the food you buy from a super market is processed junk. These days I only ever eat fresh foods, no packaged or processed foods at all. Only for my birthday, easter and christmas do I indulge in junk food.

[@MekarWB]

@@Aimaiai Regulating unhealthy food out of the economy is a band-aid solution. The point is that all addictions are habits and the only way to change them is to change your habits. Kids can't reasonably be expected to change their eating habits so it has to be on the parents.

[@likkeaaaabawss]

@@MekarWB on the contrary its a perfect solution. The sugars and fats in fast foods cause addiction and dopamine release. If you eat a lot of healthy food you will not gain weight even if you are addicted to them. A lot of studies now show that it is not the calories but the type of calories that affect our weight.

[@kendallx1213]

I agree 100%. Its not a lifestyle change, its not sustainable, its useless

[@bonniegaither3994]

I think the problem with those camps is if they don’t make the weight loss fun. They make it a drudgery, so those kids won’t want to lose weight.

[@johnsullivan8673]

Losing weight isn't fun, or these kids won't be fat.

[@BotDetector-44]

@@johnsullivan8673 You do realize that you can lose weight and feel nothing without going all-in into highly restrictive diets and exercises?

[@johnsullivan8673]

@@BotDetector-44 you can, but these people won’t. It’s not a metabolic issue, it’s a discipline issue

[@pinkrebellionxyz1567]

@@johnsullivan8673the same thing can be said about education, teachers I had fun with were able to teach me and I was able to enjoy their classes and pass. Learning can be disciplined and fun.

[@nienkehuijbens301]

⁠@@johnsullivan8673it can have fun parts. But even then, there is no need for the entire camp to be this strict and demoralizing. The amount of exercise they do, along with the strict diet, should be discipline enough. The whole thing would be much more tolerable for them if they were allowed to have fun and socialize in the meantime. Especially in the evenings

[@justinmodessa5444]

I've lived in China for 11 years and lots of other foreigners like myself always ask me how it is that grandparents can spoil their grandchildren so much and have them eat so much food. Why are they always trying to fill their stomachs? Well. Go and ask those same grandparents how many brothers and sisters they have? They have more than usual because they didn't grow up under the one child policy, but during the last 100+ years China has faced several crises that have lead to food scarcity and many of these grandparents you talk to will tell you that they've had brothers and sister's who have starved to death. This pain is still with them and they can't bear to watch their children or grandchildren go hungry like they had to watch their siblings go hungry. So the answer to why is very sad and goes to show how what we go through in life can greatly influence our later behavior towards others.

[@katobytes]

Well said. The scarcity mindset never goes away

[@nuttyfrootie8550]

It’s the generational trauma

[@maud7997]

My mom was born and raised in a rural Chinese village before she moved to Australia in 2006 and every now and then she speaks about the poverty she grew up in and things like the lack of education she had. I see that 'grandparent' mindset in her a bit considering every time we go out, even if its for a few hours for shopping, she'll bring food and drinks that we probably won't even end up having, and she stresses too much over us kids going hungry when we're already above average in weight.

[@kimik01889]

Grandparents spoiling their grandchildren is a WORLDWIDE thing. It's not specific to one country. Lots of grandparents around the world do this.

[@MattActorGordon]

Appalling. Food and movement should be associated with joy. Conditioning these kids to associate eating healthy and exercising with physical exhaustion and mental/emotional misery will lead them down a terrible cycle of never losing weight and body dysmorphia.

[@sw6951]

The problem isn’t obesity. The problem is loneliness and boredom. Everyone needs communities and activities to feel happy and purposeful. EDIT: Obesity is a symptom of the bigger problem of living in a loveless and selfish society. If we fix that, we wouldn’t have obesity.

[@ariamason9324]

The problem is china

[@Woketard]

They wanted communism. They got it.

[@Steven-xf8mz]

Not exactly. there are lonely skinny people. it's matter of choice.

[@slamdunk118]

Nope, look at America, fast food and soda are the problem

[@PurplePanda1233]

Nope, look at Canada, poutine is the problem.

[@miu869]

The 12 year old missing his family made me tear up. That boy is a gem

[@EmpressRiya]

Yes a gem

[@IssaH437]

the thing people don't realize about all these (most) mukbangers is that they purge all the food after they're done. there's no way you can eat like that everyday and weigh 47kg.

[@kenlee1416]

Cut out sugar and sugary drinks totally. Eat pastries, cakes, biscuits, sweet treats rarely, only on festive occasions. NO seed oils, certainly not for cooking. NO margarine! Drastically reduce intake of refined carbs and processed foods.

[@smartcentral2562]

All the father should do is being an example to his son. Paying money will not solve the problem.

[@AmariKhumalo]

my grandson obese as like boy in video my son does not tell him when to stop eating he 17 and weigh more than me problem my son work lot of hour so he buy my grandson frozen food when he not home and his wife die of cancer 3 year ago so I think my grandson depress over it and use food to hide that he sad I try to ask him to go on walk with me because I not work anymore and we live in same home and some time he go with me but not much he say he tired all time and I have cook for him more so he not eat frozen food but he still sneak frozen food late night when he think I sleep I hear him come down stairs by my room then he go in kitchen and heat up food I not sure what to do now?

[@jw-27j01]

Ikr, that part really reminded me of mothers who get their daughters to do beauty pageants because they didn't get the chance to/failed to succeed in it themselves.

[@blueballs5004]

@@AmariKhumalo maybe spending more time eating with him could help? maybe he will open up and feel more comfortable to listen to you and stop eating as much :)

[@shawnbeak6048]

@@blueballs5004yes, exactly. Presence is what matters.

[@bluedragon266]

common for parents to throw money at a problem

[@leobrainard6311]

it breaks my heart to see young people essentially being tortured without actually learning a sustainable, healthy way of living. as we can see by how often kids just gain the weight back, the issue is much deeper than just shedding the weight. if you don't teach those kids how to find joy, purpose, and motivation in losing weight, they are never going to continue to have healthy habits.

[@hepotiricly]

"tortured"

[@nehalilisays]

Yeah, not allowing them to laugh and have fun while using exercise as a punishment will make it unlikely that they'll start enjoying exercise in their everyday life...

[@ghostface5559]

I'm sure they teach them the boring stuff. But the real issue is they're sent back to their enablers.

[@elinama7061]

In truth, all these camps are just made to constantly profit off these kids. If they really wanted them to lose weight, they wouldn't be teaching them such extreme stuff that only makes the kids associate dieting losing weight with pain and suffering. They could teach them sustainable ways to lose weight like doing simple laidback walks or letting kids chose a sport they might be interested in, teaching them to cook healthier meals and sustainable eating habits, therapy to find where their heads are at and to gain confidence. All this weight loss stuff is so deeply psychological. What is the point of spending thousands of dollars only to gain all that weight back? It's a much more systematic issue and home life issue.

[@LSD77777]

@@hepotiriclystrenuous exercise is torture

[@TvehX]

"The main problem is the boundless supply of meat" Right, because it's not the oil it's being cooked in that wasn't in the Chinese diet until the 1970's or the sugar the country has become addicted to. It's the meat that you literally can't release enough insulin from eating to cause fat deposition without eating 4 lbs of it a day.

[@HumanimalChannel]

Exactly

[@CobraQuotes1]

you are right.

[@rosietales]

I peeped that as well. Overconsumption of meat is not okay but the way they phrased it made it seem like eating meat is a problem when it's also necessary for a healthy lifestyle.

[@jinnamonroll5684]

This, also, men are not supposed to eat too much meat. It causes erectile dysfunction

[@katobytes]

This is such a dumb comment. Insulin is not the only thing that causes fat deposition. You're not pooping all the protein and fat out of your system. It all goes somewhere.

[@imthebestthingsinceslicedr5400]

Ill never forgot what the HR lady told me years ago where she said if you have problems liking salty foods, sweets or over indulging in general. Slowly cut back since its like an addiction where overtime you gain tolerance where it gets higher and higher. Then if you have doubts if your diet is working is by testing it yourself months later and go back to the way you eat and you will see you cant eat like that anymore. When I applied what she said it worked well for me but the biggest thing is making that commitment to become healthier

[@KevinSamuelsKid]

Yea but what do you substitute the food with… you can’t just cut back and starve yourself. That’s what everyone always does lmao

[@mekabare]

its not really about starving oneself. You can eat the same things as before, but gradually reduce sugar, fat and salt. So, for example, actually measure the fat you put in the pan, or take 10% less sugar for your cake etc. Another good tactic is ADDING things. Not even substitute, just add. Add protein, add veggies, but you can still eat what you like. Eventually you will enjoy healthier meals@@KevinSamuelsKid

[@KidsWithGuns1992]

It's about cutting off the extra stuff first, re acclimatising, then slowly changing meals. For example, cutting out sodas at first. Try a home made meal once a week (keep it easy), then increase the ratio of take out food to home made food more and more. Doing it all at once will set you up for failure, and starving will also set you up for failure. I've been eating more than I ever have before, but because my diet has changed - I've lost weight without even needing to workout. @@KevinSamuelsKid

[@uniquenewyork3325]

​@KevinSamuelsKid substitutes are relatively easy, for instance, you can try fruit with a small amount of sugar or dark chocolate to replace sweets. One of my favorites is dark chocolate syrup with raspberries. Replace sweet yogurt with Greek yogurt and add honey or granola. Eat hummus and cucumber or salsa and tortilla chips instead of potato chips and dip (this is cheaper too). Also, reduce the amount of meat and milk products you eat. Vegetables should take up half of your plate, so taste them and tweak them to find your favorites, I love brussel sprouts, avocado, and sweet potato. Swaps are easy, you just have to find the healthy foods you enjoy and don't restrict yourself too aggressively or you'll end up quitting. If you feel hungry, find more vitamin dense foods that satisfy you instead of pushing you to overindulge without noticing.

[@Niky_Blox]

the boy not being able to call his mother was so sad😭

[@Akagism]

He's such a sweetie.

[@misschin99]

I wanted to give him a hug. All those reasons he came up with for her not answering 😭

[@raevod6361]

well since the video was actually shot around 2017 he is 18 by now..

[@Niky_Blox]

yeah, but i was talking about that moment. it was pretty sad for my softie ahh at the time@@raevod6361

[@Cat_Woods]

Especially when she hung up on him, yet he still interpreted that in a positive way.

[@straw1berry11]

The 12 year old kid is so intelligent and wholesome. It warms my heart seeing how fondly he speaks of his family and how maturely he handles the disappointment of not getting to talk to his mother. He's who I want to be when I grow up and I'm 19 years old lol.

[@raevod6361]

the video is at least 5 years old by now so he is almost if not already 18

[@ItsAllAboutPerspective375]

I'm severely chronically ill/disabled to where I've been mostly bedridden for over a decade. But I struggle just to stay 100lbs because I have an incredibly difficult time eating and drinking, to the point I've dealt with chronic malnutrition and dehydration for that time. Before the vehicle accident that caused this to me as a child, I was obese just like so many others and could barely move from it. I still remember the physical pains of being fat. Which are nothing compared to the pains of not eating, but that's not my point. I remember coming home crying because of not having friends and being bullied, and my well meaning grandparents giving me oreos to make me feel better. My point is that it absolutely is what/how much you eat and/or how much you move. It's that simple. It also requires addressing the root mental and emotional issues, or you're likely to fail. The keys to most everything in life is education, dedication, and moderation.

[@DLAJC]

The thing is most people lack knowledge on weight loss and want to do it as soon as possible but in reality losing fat requires lost of planning and is best when doing it slowly.

[@axiarubin8750]

The problem is people treating fast food as actual food rather than a treat. If you have it twice or thrice a month it's not going to do much harm.

[@plumdutchess]

Good point. It's fine in moderation. It just shouldn't be your main food intake instead of healthy balanced food.

[@WendyHannan-pt7ez]

Very well said I agree, there lies the problem.

[@user-jo3st1xs1q]

Same. I have fast food only once a month. Sometimes not at all and it’s always a treat when I get to eat it!

[@zandaroos553]

Depends which type of fast food imo. I do get fast food whenever I don’t have time to cook but generally I either get like a slice of margherita pizza or an 800 cal burger a few times a week. Along with my gym routine my weight has kept pretty stable around the 25 BMI/170 lbs mark which, given I’m genetically predisposed to rapid weight gain, is pretty good for me.

[@ml3677]

I have it once in 3-4 months. I used to eat junk food every week!

[@CaptainPepega]

Obesity is one of the biggest issues globally that not many talk about. Thank you for bringing more attention to this.

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

"rise of obesity". was a government project completely opposite of "what people want". probably some fatchit rich guy; died in front of some other rich men at a party. scared the beejesus out of them; and said" I WILL SAVE AMERICA FROM THE FATTS?"

[@munchia-]

Because most people like to talk about how fat America is. You really don't hear people talk about it with other countries and that is just sad.

[@StrongRespect]

Obesity is not really a problem. The problem is discipline and culture. Tiktok brains are getting everything they want and do whatever they want when they are bored. You need to teach them to behave and be accountable

[@curtisstephens4482]

@@StrongRespect true, im obese and its a battle. it all boils down to discipline FOR MOST of it. The smaller percent is paying attention to whats actually in the food because that does more damage than overeating. I could eat more calories and actually lose weight than if i ate "normal" portions full of maltodextrin, corn syrups and other ingredients or chemicals which affect your hormones. Yes i know thats what junk food is, but the thing is that they put it in "healthy" options too. Sweet n Low sugar packets claim to be sugar free but its literally worse than sugar, putting heavier strain on the pancreas because it has maltodextrin/ dextrose/ modified food starch. Also dont forget than the american government tells you that every meal should have 50% of carbs and claiming its the ideal healthy diet. Theres a lot more to this than not over eating, you have to grow and cook your own food to actually be healthy. Its really sad how bad american food really is, i hope other countries are more honest.

[@the_kombinator]

NO no it is being talked about - HAES and fat shaming is a direct cause of the epidemic. I mean why change your ways when you can force others to accept you apparently "Judgement free" (certainly not by me) - a joke. A life-shortening joke.

[@jollygoodgordon5580]

there is no way that woman can eat so much food and not gain weight, become fat. theres only two options for her to stay thin while eating all that food: 1 she throws up the food after recording or 2, she doesnt really eat it. i think the first option is more likely the case with most mukbangers who are thin.

[@mynameisworld]

They eat like that only for the videos. The rest of the time they train like competitive eaters, on lots of lettuce and water.

[@katobytes]

It depends on how often she does it. If she doesn't eat at all until she's behind the camera, then I can believe it.

[@otakulover1492]

the kid wanting to talk to his mom and her not answering made me tear up. He's really mature, he didn't cry nor got mad at his mom, he just said "she must be busy, my mom works really hard maybe other day", and went to sleep. I hope that kid finds happines, and really wish for this to not be one of those cases where kids raise themselves because no one care for them.

[@miss0petersburg]

The father doesn’t want to do the work himself and raise his kid. He wants to pump his son with food because he can’t say no and then send him somewhere else to lose the weight. “I’m willing to spend a lot of money on my son…..”. Actually all you got to do is change your own eating habits. That’s right! Kids in this country laugh at adults without batting an eye. No respect here. As you all see, that’s how it’s done. Teaching your kids discipline and respect only makes them better adults. Having your kids debate your position as the parents will be at your and their detriment.

[@TheBillaro]

very well said. parents have no sense these days

[@BalboaBaggins]

Which country are you from?

[@jw-db2jk]

what the heck are you yabbling about

[@alinbejinaru1755]

One guy in my country said about food and health that we don't pass bad genes onto our children and rather bad habits

[@marekgaramond4198]

@@jw-db2jk what the heck are you yabbling about

[@AndoffHinter]

bro that 12 year old kid that couldn't talk to his mum is just straight up upsetting, at least bro is a champ about it

[@shambhawinp52]

Every segment was beautifully clipped together. I liked the way they concluded every segment at the end of the video.

[@neon8514]

An almost 20% increase in body mass in a single sitting is insane

[@Dom-zy1qy]

Majority of that will become water, but still is crazy.

[@anarchywon4170]

I remember when people had real-life skills. Now everyone is famous for doing nothing.

[@cheryldahl9192]

I agree!

[@user-yw3nh4ok1z]

Kardashians.

[@mizzypoo4827]

@user..... You beat me too it.. no wonder Americans are so DUMB Down trying to gain some easy fame & money..🙄

[@MarcoLeeJones]

wworld changes man. what they make is also money.😂

[@dazza14778]

Spot on 👍

[@CutandShoot5x5]

I’m a recovering “Foodie” myself. Food was what I imagine crack is to a “Drugie” for myself. I eat to live now and have lost 80 pounds with 40 more to go!

[@rc8929]

As an American…the biggest looser is what 15 years old plus? Also, 10% obesity rate in China…we were at 15% in the 70s! We are now at 39.6% obesity which would be similar to 400 million Chinese obese (not just overweight, but obese).

[@cyreneB]

if the whole family doesn't change their relationship with food it is going to be like a fight against wind mills

[@StatusVolt-hi3ft]

Even if someone loses weight, if they maintain the same attitude, they will gain it back.

[@KevinSamuelsKid]

So it’s all attitude huh? Nothing to do with failing to eat a species specific diet?

[@PHAPPSWE]

@@KevinSamuelsKid i mean thats part of your attitude

[@vmbay2212]

@@PHAPPSWEThe person wanting to lose weight, has to “Honestly WANT To Lose Weight and Keep It Off” ; If Not.. Well the laws of Darwin will apply…🫤

[@user-dr3uy9st7s]

20 kg in 40 days?!??!?? That damn over a pound a day it suppoose to be 1-3lbs a week or 4-8lb a month. Thats not healthy! The way they talk to them is shameful

[@N4iiiis]

The more I think about it, the more I start to believe, that not the fast-food is to blame here, but as always poverty. If you are poor, you can't afford eat healthy most of the time. When I was poor, I bought junkfood and cheap chocolate, I was fat. 2 years ago I started earning money, I started buying meat, vegetables and wholegrain products, bio etc. I lost 20kg since then, and I actually even ate more than before. So yeah, the blame imo lies in poverty.

[@mynameisworld]

And food banks always hand out the same high-calorie items: pasta and peanut butter.

[@AlmostAeroGauge]

You're an absolute idiot if you think poverty has anything to do with this. Fast food almost anywhere costs more than eating healthy. It's mainly lazy, shitty parents who had lazy shitty parents themselves.

[@g.d.2059]

Losing weight and keeping it off is more than physical exercise. It's extreme emotional and mental exercise too. If the mind isn't strengthened, there's no point and will result in failure. Environment and community is the 3rd element.

[@pascalrockenstiehl6972]

My respect to the nutritionist, she didn't say much, but what she said was of great quality and value

[@whitehat8420]

i too lose my appetite when there are 30 needles and 20 suction cups on my back

[@natm5005]

In Australia, to be accepted for weight loss surgery, it's a long process of seeing dieticians, psychologists and other health professionals before and after the surgery. You have to have proof that you have tried to lose weight for a long time as well as seeing health professionals before seeing the weight loss doctors/surgeons. They want you to have good habits and a healthy mindset before doing surgery to decrease the risk of you reverting to those bad habits and putting on the weight again. Surgery is not a quick fix to the underlying issues and I think it is a great system of support in place for those wanting surgery.

[@skatingcanuck9837]

The training camp should end with a family member seminar to educate them and teach how to support their children going forward. In North America obese children usually come from obese families. The cycle needs to be broken at a young age or the kids won't stand a chance later in life. Bad habits are hard to unlearn.

[@methylmercury]

Isn't anyone going to ask a question how the live streamer doesn't gain weight from all that food?

[@KaliKali-hv9bt]

That’s what i want to know!!!!!!😮

[@claudiasc5871]

I imagine she will throw up the food afterwards, and/or take to laxatives. i was bulimic for 20 years (now recovered), and ate astronomical amounts of food and never gained weight. In fact I often lost weight. its really very sad. of course I dont know her adn cant speak for her, but there's really no other way.

[@methylmercury]

What if she eats at the restaurant, wouldn't people notice her going to the toilet every time after eating, It would be too evident if they were throwing up. Now laxatives make more sense. Do laxatives just help eliminate everything before properly absorbing the food?@@claudiasc5871

[@stephanecremont3666]

There are also some rare people who basically got a genetic disorder that prevent them from gaining any weight at all. You might think it's advantageous nowadays but it comes with a slew of health issues that ain't fun. I can't remember what's it called but i met a girl when i was young that couldn't gain any fat and had that issue. Gaining fat fast is the whole reason humanity has survived for hundred thousand years with scarce food everywhere.

[@methylmercury]

I'd like to hear at least some of those health issues that nice disorder comes with. There's plentiful of food and always will be, we're not in stone age anymore@@stephanecremont3666

[@LogainAblar]

Thanks for posing this. It was really interesting. I appreciate the info presented in the video and it shows that the societal issues that cause people to eat excessively aren't exclusive to any one region of the world. What's really sad though is how corporate greed, the lust for even greater profits preys on this to the detriment of the people at large. The key is lifestyle change, individual self control and making better decisions knowing what's being marketed to us is not good for us.

[@emmacowling419]

that 12 year old boy at 17:01 is so cute. i love him. "shes probably busy, its okay, i can talk to her tomorrow" what a great attitude

[@NawtyShawty]

This video really hits home to me. I wasn't born in China but in another South East Asian country that is heavily influenced by China itself. I know how extreme the beauty standards are there in China and how terribly discriminated against you are if you are just slightly heavier. The world that they grew up in doesn't make it easier for them either. Depression, isolation, pressure from parents, school are all contributors to the bad eating habits. It's just a continuous cycle of eating disorders really.

[@carter_1]

It's not easy being a fat kid in any country.

[@debl9957]

The diet camp should teach the kids about the importance of healthy eating habits, not just exercise. And, relatedly, caloric intake; expend more calories than one takes in.

[@plumdutchess]

You can't out exercise a bad diet.

[@XRioteerXBoyX]

They did, towards the end of the video. It showed a segment in their diet and weight loss training camp for healthy eating habits and why they should avoid fast food meals.

[@KevinSamuelsKid]

Not going to help anyone. What they need to be taught is the human species appropriate diet. Not that many people know what that is these days.

[@yerielking9722]

@@KevinSamuelsKid in Europe kids learn that in school.

[@KevinSamuelsKid]

@@yerielking9722 What are kids thought is a species appropriate diet in Europe? Bread?

[@eyebyte]

When my anorexia and binge eating disorders were at its worst, like when I dropped to almost 80 pounds or order doubles of orders to satisfy my hunger telling myself it’s the only thing I need when not starving, I would watch mukbangs to hold off my hunger and watch mukbangs to eat with people. That’s the pattern. It’s an eating disorder problem before it’s an obesity problem.

[@allisonli4781]

Honestly after watching this documentary I feel like it’s quite outdated….

[@Irinandify]

The kid at 18 minutes is such a sweetheart!!!

[@liamjohanssen7888]

Well done, and we must as well, consider the relationship between child obesity and isolation, depression. Teaching kids to look at food as sources of health and nutrients is also a possibility. The wealthier Western nations grapple with obesity as well, even tho these countries have different political and economic structures.

[@whateverman2674]

I think the Chinese government doesn't want to fix the problem, they just want to capitalize on it like America. if they want to fix the problem they can ban fast food places and make fat people pay a hefty fine until they lose weight.

[@BD-8171]

where all looking at this like this is not literelly happening everywhere

[@ashleyandersen4375]

The loss of true community, loss of true and nutritious food, loss of third spaces especially for the youth and you get a FAT and LONELY population. Sending the kids to camp isn't going to change the crap food in the store nor the fact there's no where to PLAY!

[@wokeaf1337]

It is like I see an obesity documentary from 30 years ago, some things never change.

[@dolorespagay6765]

actually after exercise makes them more hungry, they should be given right amount of food and right food for their health.

[@lisleigfried4660]

Meat is definitely not the problem. It's definitely the seed oils

[@vipboyrockywilliams6577]

The dr just gone smack buddy belly like that while he out😂💀

[@cheryldahl9192]

Why would anyone want to watch someone eat too much? People have weird fetishes.

[@kapeecoffee]

Makes them feel good what else....

[@freemagicfun]

My wife watches them... seems daft to me. I could film one, but have no desire to watch one. 😎

[@loongsiu4766]

food porn, easy to understand

[@Brodragon2225]

@@freemagicfun because you don't feed her good food i think

[@blackbird6001]

@@Brodragon2225maybe because she tries to compensate something inside while she is eating and watching mungbank videos.

[@johnadams1976]

Convinced I've seen this before????

[@PJ-sv4iw]

Probably a re-upload

[@back-to-new]

This channel re-upload a lot of videos

[@Devilishlybenevolent]

Yeah this is years old, China has banned mukbang content.

[@thewanderingartists]

Deja vu 😂

[@crashtube.]

yeah bro they reupload like crazy

[@undergroundxp]

17:55 this actually made me tear up. What a parent must do to have such a good kid.

[@joelyho]

Thanks for making such an amazing documentary! Definitely interesting. If I may so slide a piece of feedback in though - as a native Chinese and English speaker, I found some parts of the editing a bit rough or slightly inaccurate. For example, cutting off someone mid-sentence, or letting them start the next sentence and then cutting them off outside of the translated bits. Would definitely appreciate more attention to these production details so I can focus on the great content!

[@Li-gq6yj]

great video! some of the direct translations are taken wildly out of context but over all it sheds light on some great points surrounding the eating boom in Shina.

[@Mactakun]

Why is everyone blaming the restaurants or food? It's the people and their eating habits.

[@elmokelmu]

its a bit of both, especially in america the food is crammed with sugars and fats. It can be easy to get addicted to them and become a habit.

[@Robertomalinka]

Everyone is responsible for themselves ,what food you choose and where you sit down to eat and what you will eat and not constantly criticize restaurants.

[@elmokelmu]

@@Robertomalinka yes I agree, but there are weak people all around, and these foods are typically centered towards them.

[@_.soymilk]

In the end it’s your personal choices that will determine if you’re overweight yes, but how can you overlook the role corporations have had on our nutrition and health? If there’s a ton of people making the same choices (all over the world), there’s a reason beyond personal choice

[@jnnschnll9008]

BS. This food is designed to be addictive. And children have no choice, they don't know what's good for them. This stuff is marketed to children. Are you saying five year olds should make better choices?

[@ambersummer2685]

I can tell all the girls at that fat camp didn’t like any moment being there at all😭 14:46 18:17 Also the 12 year old boy is the sweetest😭 omg

[@ranjittyagi9354]

The resentment on their faces is glaring. 😆

[@ambersummer2685]

@@ranjittyagi9354 Meanwhile the boys are running around like chickens on the first day. The girls must have known what they were about to get into since day one😭

[@ranjittyagi9354]

@@ambersummer2685 😄 Girls probably were more "ensconced" in their lives than those boys. Offf, crazy. I love to see documentaries. When it comes to China, I just search for docus myself by typing in a search phrase. Most times, it's the name of a province, ethnic group or the grand old CCP. Do you love documentaries too, Amber?

[@BeyzaNur-cb9ej]

50:15 omg i felt so sad. they all very young and go through that depressive camp without their parents. that young boy looked very depressed too

[@bmno.4565]

From famine to obesity in decades. That's real progress right there.

[@nleem3361]

The fat camp won't work long-term because it's not fun and sustainable. Exercise should be enjoyable and fun, like playing games or sports that your pushed with a purpose and the person doing it must also wan to do it. Also good healthy food can still be very flavorful and delicious. In all places cut the sugar for the best results. Sugar is so addictive. Also, cut white flower as it's too processed. They should also test for food allergies. I can eat dairy, gluten and eggs without digestive issues, but they swell me up so much. I had no idea until i cut it. Now i feel so much better.

[@sharongillesp]

You make some excellent points!

[@loot6]

In the video they're eating chicken burgers mainly and loads of stir fries. I think rather the main problem is unsaturated fat since there's no sugar in it anyway.

[@elkl3409]

Yeah like virtual reality games

[@sarahh2072]

I wish I could go to that restaurant with the organic veggies, her food looked sooo good

[@KevinSamuelsKid]

Who tf cares about vegetables. Find a restaurant with meat, and not that rabbit thin stuff. It’s just the reason everyone is starving and has to resort to eating fast food. Because MEAT is so unhealthy that frying it is less unhealthy, APPARENTLY

[@billsun]

China has a lot of big problems, but obesity is not one of them, especially compared to the US.

[@SuPeRsKiTtLeStAlKeR]

"I don't want him to go down the same road as me...I'm willing to spend money for my son" Why not be willing to spend time for your son AND yourself. Allow for the foods he enjoys in lower quantities, allow him to enjoy one or two of his favorite dishes, not all of them. Take time with him to exercise, swim, take walks, and be active together. Set the example, and better both of your lives through improved habits and moderation. Don't simply throw money at a short term solution.

[@Kingcobra6699]

These parasocial relationships seem so sad and disturbing to me. I get that people feel lonely, so do I sometimes. But getting involved in such a thing seems the pinnacle of failing at life for me. Real Social interactions are so important, there is just no substituting it... Edit: Even those old people practising tai chi. They probably don't know each other. They might be regularily there and acknowledge each other, but that might be all. Even this is so much more worth, socially, then chatting with the AI of an OF girl....

[@plumdutchess]

That's what I thought. If you watch these videos to combat loneliness, you'll never go out and actually try to meet people. Because your social need is fulfilled by someone who doesn't know you exist.

[@nicolej8794]

Actually, elderly people usually have a strong community in china. if they are doing group activities together, they probably have a group chat and organize get-together and other activities. My grandparents do square dance and their team even do competitions. They also do group travel, abroad sometimes(with guide ofc). I feel like the elderly are actually sometimes the most connected generation❤

[@wokeaf1337]

Kid: "My Mom never turns off her mobile phone" Mom turns off mobile phone during the only day their Kids are allowed to use their phone.

[@SH-to8sh]

yeah it was sad he is a sweetheart :(

[@sharongillesp]

She was probably “instructed” by her husband not to! The father probably blames her for over indulging him, which may or may not be true.

[@joerichardwad1645]

I’m sure the producers, who just happened to be filming the ONLY time she didn’t answer, had something to do with it.

[@leehall5447]

Lmao the fat training camp group looked like my graduating high school class including myself

[@cheriedeurope]

That's bitter funny Bro 😂😂😂😂

[@torontotsts8218]

My whole heart went out to that sweet boy who wanted to talk to his mom. Omg. What a kind soul.

[@Jonsson474]

It’s definitely worse being both fat and short compared to being just short.

[@OwnyOne]

The shorter you are the easier it is to be fat, a few kilos are much more noticeable than the same on a taller person, sadly.

[@ade910]

@@OwnyOne Its also easier to overlook the problem of high body fat percentage when you are tall. Double edged sword.

[@tamere520]

A 1200 calorie deficit is considered extreme for most, but it's a normal calorie deficit for me, who's 5'1.

[@bubus682]

😂of course

[@robertsanders7060]

The problem is that this teaches kids that exercise and moving is punishment, and that food and playing on your phone is fantastic. Instead, these kids ideally should run out of the house with a soccer ball to a field, and happily play the next five hours until they fall over, and on some level realize the emptiness of phone time.

[@ashleyconnor8891]

100% agree

[@mynameisworld]

You want to bore them to death by forcing them to play soccer?????? They should be allowed to do something fun, not be forced to play one of the most boring ball games on the planet!

[@Superlegofighter101]

This really puts into perspective the infancy of humanity and human culture. America has tried to tackle obesity like this and it HEAVILY backfired. To this day there are horror stories about it. Korea also tried this. You would think that as frequent and prevalent as this failure of a solution is other cultures and places around the world would recognize those faults and put them to use. Even in recent trends and years we do not have the resources to fully understand the patterns and synchronicity of the world.

[@annaairahala9462]

The intro blaming it on mukbang makes this documentary really hard to believe lol. Is this the first time they heard of the concept? It's become a thing around the world and if anything China was late to the trend, I don't think it's a cause behind China's increasing obesity rate. It's so weird to see superfluous implications in documentaries about important issues.

[@miltonmerlo4103]

China with one of the highest rates of obesity I don't believe it. If you go to Shanghai or Beijing you will notice that people usually tend to be fit, some are even too thin. Honestly, if this seems like an obesity problem to you, I don't want to imagine what you think of the US and Mexico where there is clearly a serious problem with obesity

[@loongsiu4766]

these fat kids dont go outside, only playing video game in their bedroom😂

[@aprilv.1356]

Ikr. They even have popular trends chopstick legs and a4 sized waist. I was really surprised too when I saw this is in china. I was like "obsesity in where???"😮

[@aprillin8748]

the definition of Chinese obesity is different from that western obesity 😅. I think this video is using that chopstick leg standard definition for the obesity for China. feeling so sad to see a Chanel has so many followers published a misleading video like this. I feels that boys in the video can even consider as a normal weight people in the state. Lol

[@HumanimalChannel]

In India also, obesity is a serious problem. Their fast food is also laden heavily with even more calories than the western version, ut may even be the worst of the lot

[@lllow7931]

The boys are actually overweight/obese. I am a broad-shouldered girl who is the same height as the first boy who got dropped off by his dad, Du Shuai. I was at a nearly normal weight when I hit 67kg. The coach is correct by saying that 64.5kg is his ideal weight. However, I see where you are coming from. But the best is to always refer to a few medically certified nutritionists and get fat levels checked. Reaching a healthy weight is especially important for those with genetic risks where parents and grandparents/ siblings have diabetes/ heart issues/ high cholesterol. Reason: Visceral fat around organs can actually form since one is a teenager. I know this after I had a reality check and found out that my body age was 47 at 17 years old due to being 88kg at the same height as Du Shuai back then. I was obese until 18. Thereafter, I lost 20kgs BUT over a course of nearly 3 years. I also ate normally but dedicated an entire year in learning how to cook healthy yet delicious food. Additionally, I also consulted a nutritionist from a renowned hospital and learnt the basics of calories, nutrients, and what triggers unhealthy cravings (often related to stress and lack of sleep). That being said, I disagree with the fat camp format. Hiring a PT for the long term, who can actually be therapists/ counselors as well, having genuine care for kids is so important. The root cause is always emotional or environmental. Judgement from China's unforgiving society exacerbates the situation. Chinese elders are also famous for treating food as a love language and get offended when their lovingly handmade (but calorie-dense) unhealthy snacks get rejected. After loading your plate non-stop with food....they then comment how fat you have become :D What really changed my life was when I was 19-20 years old, I battled against my family's eating habits. They ended up accommodating to my weight-loss needs after endless heated arguments. The weight really dropped when every started eating healthy as well! Hopefully my sharing helps in spreading some knowledge :) @@aprillin8748

[@ranjittyagi9354]

I remember my dad telling me everyone uses a bicycle in China and they keep fit. But, that was some decades ago..

[@elizabethpeebles3393]

The owner of the plus size modeling agency saying she didn’t want girls with big boobs because they look fat 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@sgjdsyevkfhao]

Important dokumentary of and such incredibly selfish and sad problem thank you, the more we speak about it the closer change and people taking action against this we come. This is so sad to see.

[@catherinehpn3613]

Gluttony on social media, how charming

[@s._3560]

mukbang is common on social media, even in poor undeveloped countries.

[@andreah6379]

Americans are in good company, atleast. I don't see any American without either some food or drink in their hands no matter where they're at, no matter what they're doing. This was bound to spread to China.

[@MEQUPWER]

she makes $7K a month

[@KigurumiAlice]

My boor dee 😅

[@Bonita.Vampira_]

@@MEQUPWERat what cost ?

[@Pokemon_lugia-tc9eg]

this is sad to see....my partner i have been with since 2009 just passed away at 45 years old three weeks ago....obesity is no joke and needs to be ended...im sick of people losing their lives due to this epidemic that is preventable

[@Elhastezy888]

Very very sorry for your loss/sadness 💔 🫂

[@Astrid-cc3mg]

I’m so sorry, thank you for sharing your story and perspective 💔

[@Pokemon_lugia-tc9eg]

@@Astrid-cc3mg thnk you...i just got the call two days ago with his cause of death...heart failure caused by morbid obesity...people are going to keep dying if our society remains ignorant to this blight on our society...but...it is something we are doing to ourselves..it just is horrible that it can be fied but so many choose notto ever change their lifestyle! so many are going to keep dying due to this!

[@vmbay2212]

What makes it even worse is fat influencers on social media, especially Tik Tok; who feel there is nothing wrong with being morbidly obese, and dying young unfortunately…

[@YuckFouTubeX]

I used to live in China with my (now) late wife until 2015, I would say that the political situation is so bad that it affects humanitarian relations and the such, things are so stressful that I remember coming home from job and eating like a pig So I moved out and lost nearly half my weight in three years, China is not a good place for a full life right now, so it is easy to fall into such vices

[@peanutbutter35]

Lay off carbs and sugar! I went carnivore 6 months ago and lost 30 pds quick and keep losing! Got off BP meds, was pre diabetic, A1C is down 8 pts, no more inflammation, no more bloating from veggies and fruit! Cholesterol is great! Just had another blood test and everything is awesome!!! Who wouldn’t like to eat steak, bacon, eggs, butter, hamburger patties and whatever other beef or seafood?

[@katobytes]

good for you

[@celebibi4360]

Its so interesting hearing that lady say that in the 60's meat was eaten once a year on chinese new year, because now a days if you speak to any Chinese young person and say your vegan or vegetarian they look at you like you're unhealthy and going to die when their parents or grandparents might have grown up never even tasting meat.

[@johnsullivan8673]

Meat wasn't THAT scarce and she didn't really say meat was eaten only once a year. Poor translation, possibly due to editorial bias.

[@silentstarz16]

I am an overseas Chinese person who grew up in the 90s with immigrant parents. Although my parents purportedly tried to bring me up with Chinese cuisine they were used to, it was heavily saturated with an excess abundance of meat and often the portion sizes were not kid friendly. This, plus their allowance of fast food which introduced unhealthy ingredients. What I took away from growing up in such a household was there was too much value put on meat. As a child I was so repulsed by them putting meat in everything that as an adult I now barely eat it. To them it is still unbelievable to go through a meal not having at least one meat dish. It is also psychological. Both my parents came from backgrounds where they experienced food insecurity and so now it is a lifelong effect of them constantly concerned about having food and obtaining foods, at the detriment of themselves.

[@KK-ol5ov]

Last week I watched a video on the slim issues and now it’s obesity in the same country. So it all balances out.

[@starlightwaters1]

The thing about acupunture is that it does work, but it's more like a supplementary way of losing weight like if ur already trying ur best, doing exercise, watching what you eat, etc, it would help boost the rate ofyour weight loss. If you don't change the regimen and still eat a ton, the effects would be so minimal that it wouldn't really work. Acupuncture improves the circulation, metabolism, blood flow and regular sessions would basically just increase the rate of weightloss. To rely on acupuncture alone would not fix the fundamental issue. I went to an acupuncturist who explained this all to me. My session was more for regeneration and pain relief, but they talked about their methods of weightloss and how fixing diet and exercise was the base issue.

[@Gaibreel]

I'm so tired of fast food places. I do not eat at them. Fast food restaurants destroy culture and health

[@awfully.average]

back in Singapore in the 80's most people love a fat chubby kid, its considered cute and sorta a sign that the family is doing well, i was a fat kid back in the 80's but when i turned 18 i needed to serve the Army , that sorted my weight and my habits out , now i feel awful if i don't go for a run

[@kyj1147]

I can't understand this hype. Mukbang looks so disgusting to me

[@mynameisworld]

That's the use of it. When you have an eating disorder, watching someone else eat in a disgusting way is good thinspo.

[@juanitas4321]

He said "forward march" but they all forward walked. LOL

[@Dirtfarm23]

The mom not answering the call from her son made me feel all sorts of terrible lmao

[@svenjaseidelmann6368]

Those childrens have to pay for what their parents did to them

[@gardengeek3041]

This has been floating around KZbin for a few years already. Time for Part 2, maybe?

[@MandyGood]

She prob throws it up cause a lot of these professional eaters do just that

[@sounghungi]

They're getting fat because of the 8 times increase in the use and consumption of vegetable oils.