Chinese budget Ranger and Hilux dual-cab alternative is a mixed bag (LDV T60 Max Plus 2024 Review)

[@edwardmorris2231]

Always enjoy Poch reviews

[@Marks.Reviews]

I hope LDV takes notes from honest reviews like yours, and responds in a positive way with making improvements to the vehicle.

[@DiceyRicey]

Pretty decent review of the Plus, nicely done. Not sure what the comments are about bias in the interview, thought it was pretty legit. Good verdict.

[@warcrabcyber9908]

In many car reviews there is bias, like for instance in many reviews you always hear reviewers talk about the Ford ranger constantly as if they are paid for marketing by Ford. However in some cases like this , the reviewer is being honest , the people that take offense are mainly Chinese bots. Once you say something bad, they come in droves to defend. This ldv is a new vehicle and its already stuttering as if the fuel pump is going bad. These are also known to rust . There are some Chinese utes that are really good, like the gwm canon alpha , but definitely not this ldv here.

[@DiceyRicey]

@@warcrabcyber9908 yeah I wasn’t really sure what old mate was talking about with the stuttering. Pretty certain that’s not a common LDV feature right there. I like the look of the Alphas though. Super nice interiors! Proving to be a good seller by the looks of my local roads!

[@Paradoxical124]

Whatever you do, do not take advice on Chinese cars from CarSauce, its more than obvious there is something behind the scenes.

[@DiceyRicey]

@@Paradoxical124 what are they up to over at carsauce? I see they’re travelling around a lot testing our cars. Thinking they’re always going to wear some level of bias because of that?

[@ianweal3081]

Its coil sprung, hence it's correct description is multi link, absolutely correct description. Multi link refers to radious arms that retain the solild axle in place forth and aft, as well as the pan arm that controls side movement. Multi link is the correct description for coil sprung axles. Multi link isn't the description for Independent as you eluded to.

[@martythompson6509]

Best CC presenter. 👍👍👍

[@eliazarookembo6063]

No he is biased

[@njabulomathabela5202]

Tom Baker imo.

[@michaellovegrove9467]

@@eliazarookembo6063You may be projecting your own internalised biases. From my perspective, all I’m getting from Ponch is a thorough, fair and honest review.

[@EnemyOfThaParty]

Gota watch till the end, he actually says that he has grown to like the car. He says its performance is strong and it handles quite well.

[@chrissimons9733]

Yeah i love mine but i had all the speakers upgraded to hertz and put a under seat sub in as well.

[@markdrewett149]

Just sold my 2023 T60 max and this is a very accurate assessment. Power, TQ, Trans are all good. Bit surprised ol mate didnt mention the deal breaker seats. They are just ass numbing after two hrs in the saddle and dont sit your beer between your legs as the base is so short it will hit the floor at some stage. Glove box is virtually useless, engine noise is 1/10 and the old model screen is 100% junk., so its good to see the new one has improved. Replaced T60 with the last of the Tuscon Diesel N Line that does everything well and not a thing that i can fault. 6.7 ltrs/100km from Mornington to Mildura and the idiots have gone to some type of electric junk only.

[@krh007]

Plus that newer version looks damn ugly at the front. Seat comfort is top priority and a deal breaker for sure

[@SirKGuido]

Old design and LDV/MG/SAIC rust like there is no tomorrow!! Qld buyer had to take LDC to court for his warranty claim after 18 months owning a T60, he was advised he lived too close to the coast! 95% of Aussies live on the coast, the dealership was across from the water front FFS! I am not a hater of Chinese cars and if the LDV group make a good car I'm there, love the price wars that they bring and I like cannon alpha and musso so cheap utes all good, just not a fan of the build here.

[@yslee1401]

They all don't have resale value

[@hi9580]

Luxury suv interior in work truck. What the Americans have been doing for years in their full-size pickup trucks.

[@craigexaustralia7147]

Good presentation. Usual chinese problems, its really still a prototype by Japanese standards.

[@eliazarookembo6063]

Worst presentation just usual bias and unfair criticism on a product just because it's Chinese

[@johnnumbat9782]

No way I’d consider a Chinese built vehicle - a lot of folk will be tempted to buy an MG for example thinking it’s a UK brand and will soon learn they’re actually built in China and cheap for a reason - if it’s not Toyota it’s not sitting in my driveway and wouldn’t touch a bogan Ford either - I’m very happy with my $18k 2010 diesel Hilux with very superior off-road handling and good on road dynamics - even has automatic transmission, ABS, cruise control, aircon and electric mirrors/windows - I’d put the $50k towards property.

[@joebertpaduelan1701]

But nissan build in china

[@johnnumbat9782]

@@joebertpaduelan1701 wouldn’t buy a Nissan either as they’re a rebadged Renault.

[@ashcosmo3854]

@@johnnumbat9782 Lol just about everything you own comes from China. Remind us again how the new Hilux's burning oil is a high quality product ? My cousin had a 2010 Hilux.. gearbox out at 150000km's. You need to provide evidence of products being bad and not producing an emotional argument.

[@kalomboC]

Making peak power @ 4000rpm is pretty pointless, you'd have to be standing on the accelerator to achieve it....and I say this as a DMax owner

[@JarrodVains-fl8ly]

Thoughts on 2.7 T caravan towing performance?

[@aussiemotomatt]

Just finished towing about 2.7T of van 1400km. You know you're towing, but it does fine. Toowoomba range/Bypass was also fine, sitting on around 70km/h at the steepest points. Didn't get hot. For me run about 13L/100km compared to my normal driving around 8L/100km. Small fuel tank, so if you're doing a big trip, carry extra diesel.

[@DiceyRicey]

@@aussiemotomatt 💯

[@JarrodVains-fl8ly]

Thanks. Good to know

[@ashcosmo3854]

Had a 2023 model. EGR failed, timing belt tensioner became noisey and had to be replaced, manual gearbox has a clutch made of butter (smart tactic to get the customer to cough up money for clutch replacements).. wasn't a terrible ute though, get the auto and keep your warranty.. but expect to lose half its value as soon as you take delivery of it.

[@peterachilles9346]

Why no T60 MAX MEGA TUB PLUS LUXE

[@andysaunders3708]

Live axles are cool.

[@garrywoodward9049]

Never any mention of an important aspect: Fuel tank capacity??

[@eliazarookembo6063]

He's too biased just criticism nothing important

[@DiceyRicey]

73L of pure Chinese thrill! 😁

[@yslee1401]

@@DiceyRicey RMB0.50 for you

[@DiceyRicey]

@@yslee1401 Yes, I do love the Rocky Mountain Bird Observatory.

[@defjam2026]

Ponch for PM

[@MatthewBayard]

Make it a plug in hybrid

[@XXB4XX]

The LDV T60 is starting to get a bit too big for its boots when it comes to the pricing.

[@andysaunders3708]

Rectal-linear, perhaps. It's ugly as sin. However, it seems like a great truck. I'll only drive it at night, so I don't have to see the styling.

[@sch-corp]

You would have to be absolutely mad to get this over a Cannon X or Musso Ultimate...

[@murds3]

Go the GWM Ute instead, way more reliable.

[@yslee1401]

They all don't have any resale value

[@Đờimitry]

Is this the tiny market in Aus? If u know so much about tech and " quality" how comes noone internationally drives a " Holden" but most international markets drives Chinese ?

[@DBotfield-m7l]

Would you buy this or a Musso ?

[@garyb6465]

Musso any day , I have had rexton 2009 now done 380k and my 2022 musso 46k no big issues except for screen freezing ever so often. Good build quality since 2005 i have had and passed to kids 3 ssangyongs.

[@yslee1401]

It’s called a Temu Ranger😊

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

This is also known as Chevrolet S10 Max technically a next gen Colorado

[@DiceyRicey]

Is that in Chile? Or Brazilian maybe? 🤔

[@ra_redesignautomobiles]

Mexico ​@@DiceyRicey

[@powderskier5547]

Wouldnt go near a chinese car even if it was free, value my life

[@Đờimitry]

Even the Tesla cant make EV batteries but use mostly Chinese EV batteries. So u basically driving near a Tesla that is mostly manufactured in China and batteries made in China.

[@Đờimitry]

U think they dont know what quality and safety is and most of the international markets dont know what is quality ? So does " Holden" even export or anyone drives that crap internationally?

[@RedDog-e7v]

@@Đờimitryah the 50 cent army troll is back, every video you are in the comments section defending the Chinese rubbish

[@dalehayton9944]

Not for me. Safety tech rubbish that turns back on all the time and doesn't even work well, what crap. Sound system rubbish. Brakes rubbish. Not good enough. Why have features that are bad then charge more for them. Get the things we pay for right or don't fit them.

[@rubyred8845]

Korean made cars are better quality.

[@eliazarookembo6063]

If the reviewer was fair and not biased you would get the true picture

[@robertceroli3512]

Yeh until the eng shits itself isn't there a class action in Aus (Hyundai eng failure)

[@Đờimitry]

Maybe ICE cars but no way in Hybrid and EV is Korean even close to Chinese tech and luxury and build quality. Korean cant even make jet engines and space station which is more advance and complex.

[@bazinga615]

It’s a “no” from me. Too many issues from watching this and just shows the lack of engineering from the in-house developed motor. Most Chinese manufacturers need time to catch up. At the moment they all look great on paper specs only but barely satisfactory in the real world - although I’d seriously wonder whether the Ford would be more unreliable in the long run

[@eliazarookembo6063]

This is a biased review

[@ashcosmo3854]

Can you elaborate on lack of engineering from an in house motor ?

[@gregbishop610]

Like any other 4x4 crew cab

[@XXB4XX]

​@@ashcosmo3854he can't, he's making it up as he goes along, licking his wounds on spending 80k for a Workmate

[@ashcosmo3854]

@XXB4XX I just sold mine, EGR failure and timing belt tensioner within 10000kms.. maybe he's right lmao

[@eliazarookembo6063]

This review is very biased against Chinese the 13:25 car

[@powderskier5547]

good its the truth

[@eliazarookembo6063]

@@powderskier5547 Biased opinion is not truth he has reviewed other ure"s which to my opinion has issues but he never touched on the issues like he is doing now

[@Den-pu6re]

@@eliazarookembo6063 Mate, compared to Japanese vehicles this thing is garbage, gutless engine, horrible resale and classic Chinese cheapness.

[@koddesa]

The BMW grill meme is real

[@sidjyothi]

My God! So many issues!!!

[@stephend6439]

Recto-lineal

[@lIlIlIlIlIlIlIlIlI]

Dude's complaining about a bunch of yap and in the same breath mentions it's cheaper than a bone stock hilux.

[@TomWilding1]

God, they are horrendous

[@dr.killjoy5001]

Cheap would be top spec for 30k...

[@eliazarookembo6063]

I have watched you analyse other utes and you avoid mentioning their flaws even though they are not flawless yet for this one you criticise from beginning to end just stop the bias

[@trevaus1121]

Rust buckets. The cheapest possible paint. Water based crap.

[@yslee1401]

Its all reflected in the near non-existent resale value

[@dalehayton9944]

Water based paint is the future crap get used to it