Choosing the Right Putter Length

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txg.ca - Find out the effects that changing the length of your putter can have on your stroke and results on the greens! In this video we test a Ping Sigma putter at 3 different lengths and measure the results on the Quintic Ball Roll system.
Filmed at: Tour Experience Golf
Custom Golf Club Fitting Studio - Toronto, Canada
Featuring: Ian Fraser & Matt Blois
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[@pdwiqzlpdwiqzl1883]

The 24 people that have down voted this video must be watching their computer/phone upside down and thought they were upvoting. That is the only possible explanation! What a great video.

[@seancook2264]

Great video. I have 7 putters all different styles and lengths which change in and out of the bag over the years. Some just out of the bargain bag and others fitted using the latest tech. More recent years moved to a 35” Spider, more out easing some biomechanics discomfort. The advantage of the fitting is it saves you all the experimentation and space in the club cupboard! Great content enjoy watching every day!

[@robpottergolf]

How have I never seen this one. As a putter kleptomaniac, I literally salivating over this!

[@ChampMannyRey]

Sweet! I have the Fetch putter.. I had back surgery 3 yrs ago and I love that I’m not having to bend over as much throughout the round. I feel I can finish stronger on the last few holes where before I could tell my back wasn’t as fresh.

[@geemac979]

The adjustable Ping putter offers a high degree of flexibility and is worth a trial. Thanks guys for presenting another insightful video. TXG is undoubtedly the most informative golf channel and we look forward to its continued success.🏌️‍♂️🇦🇺👍

[@marq022]

After watching your video, I was able to purchase a putter that was suited for my stature. I’ve went from 3-4 putts to 1-2. You guys are awesome 👍🏾

[@TC-ps9sd]

This was a nice change of pace from all of the equipment tests done recently. So many great tidbits of learnings contained in fitting videos. Thank you.

[@chadmanPA]

Appreciate the content fellas. Could you do a video on the effects if any of the thicker SuperStroke grips vs traditional grip like TW’s ping grip as it relates to path/face rotation?

[@cprince7749]

I'm glad I don't have regular access to all this equipment and technology, I'd end up down so many rabbit holes I'd need a straight jacket after two weeks...

[@TheBfhawki]

I bought the Sigma 2 Tyne 4 mainly as an experiment to try out different putter lengths. I am 6' 3" and usually use a 35" putter. After taking this putter out and trying different lengths from 36 to 32, I keep coming back to 32.75" for the most consistent results and more solid feeling putts for me. Really a good putter and I am using it for what I thought was going to be an experimental putter.

[@mcgroogtube]

It's interesting how putter length and overall fitting in my personal experience (24 years old and obsessed with golf from a very young age) is very personal. What I mean by that is there's an "ideal" posture that the majority of teaching professionals, etc. would want to see a player in for best performance but it seems to be that it's not black and white when fitting putters. Example of this is your comment being 6 foot 3 and liking a relatively short putter while I am a couple inches taller (honestly measured at 6 foot 5 by my doctor haha) and I feel WAY more comfortable and perform best with (ATLEAST a 37 inch putter), I am currently using a 38 inch putter and I honestly want to try even longer as I like the more upright posture and have tended to miss left as a right handed golfer. I'm going to actually buy an old 40-45 inch belly putter and find where it feels best. I also don't mind the feeling of gripping down a bit on a putter as it acts (sort of) like counter balancing and stabilization in my opinion. When belly putters were around and in stores I used to try them and they always felt great even though they didn't work as belly putters for me being 6 foot 5 and not having much of a belly (lanky, thin guy). They are some of the only putters that have felt like they fit me from any store I've been to. INTERESTING!

[@derekshorrock594]

Great putters great idea I was fitted for a Sigma 2 Valor set at 32 inch

[@valhaynes858]

You two guys are so interesting to listen too I find your explanations and delivery fascinating. Many thanks

[@JamesThompson-zl2sk]

Another great video Also nice to see your close to 30k subscribers well deserved

[@tedgoldie5755]

I have a spider first generation putter at a self modified to 37.5 because my back cannot handle bending over without severe back pain. I put a Super Stroke 5.0 and use a claw grip. I had to adjust my lie angle so when I grip it it is level. I am trying to have a straight back putter stroke with a slight arc. I am putting very well at this length. If you have a bad back and bending over really hurts try lengthening it. It has helped me. I am also 6’ 3” with shorter arms.

[@justinstephenson9360]

A really great and educational video. Every golfer should get their putter checked using that piece of kit.

[@aaron_b.]

Always so much to learn from a TXG deep dive! A putter grip size video similar to previous grip size videos you've done would be awesome

[@austinlauer1910]

Great stuff again guys! Matt soon to be putting lights out and hitting everything straight once he's better! Look forward to the next video!

[@davidjones1907]

2019 ball test please. TP5x vs ProV1x vs Chrome Soft X vs Z Star XV vs Tour BX /S And fit Matty into M5 By far the best golf online content. Keep up the awesome work 👏

[@celestialcelica1590]

Durability tests would be great too, since Titleist has reduced the size of the cover by 18% and other manufacturers using new tec, like srixon spin skin, how will these hold up now? Seems like these company's are really making the premium ball for the pro that can just replace the ball after a few holes..

[@fender68able]

Exactly!! Nice name too!!LOL

[@Hgtiger24]

@@celestialcelica1590 that's silly - i replace my ball far more often than tour pros! sometimes twice a hole!

[@paulinsana153]

Shout out to the lady at 9:05 who peeps the camera. Great video as always guys

[@fergusfitzgerald977]

Love your content pure science! Great that you two discuss the details to better tease out the minutiae. Thanks.

[@sonnick]

Damn...I clicked this video and let out a Larry Cheung "Ooouuuuu'" only to realize it premieres tomorrow 😂😂

[@Dan-nh8nu]

That's different, How'd you feel about that.

[@scotty_teee4226]

That did the opposite for Matty than I thought it would. I would have thought the shorter and more over the putter he was it would have rotated the face less. And the taller he stood that he would rotate the face more. Very interesting! Looking forward to diving deeper into the putters

[@leftygolfer69]

Another great video, what I really like about your videos apart from great content is the length of them. Never stop doing that 🙏

[@jgreen116]

Finally found a shot I can hit as far as Matt, a nine foot putt. Who am I kidding, I’d still probably leave it 2 feet short.

[@grahameturner7415]

So we see Matty can drive it miles, hit his irons so solid and now hole putts for fun. Please show us chipping so we can hopefully see he is human after all 😁. Nice video again guys. So interesting to see how changes in shaft length can affect putter delivery

[@clubchampionmedia]

Chipping/pitching is on our to-do list for sure, once we can get outside for some testing up here!

[@uwrossl]

So tedious BUT so important. Putter is the last club I have left to get fit because the full bag fitting I went to with True Spec didn't have putter fitting at that location. Have to wait for Beverly Hills location to open.

[@timothydaniels504]

Putting is such a mental game that I’m curious to know how popular putter fitting is. Given the number of times we putt ( too many times for most of us) it makes sense to get fitted. I recall reading that Arnold Palmer would show up on the range with about 30 clubs in his bag; mostly extra drivers and putters. I think if Arnie was still with us he’d have you guys on speed dial.

[@tomlawson5655]

Great video, very informative. But, as someone who doesn't have access to an adjustable club or a fitting, when I go to the golf store what should I buy? What I mean is, is there a measurement I can use to decide on the length I buy. I don't know what's best for me.

[@PbD187]

I feel like every manufacturer should do this.

[@kennethleonard2779]

Great video loved the info. I really want to get my putter fit and this just convinced me to get it done.

[@Hutchps]

As to be expected, great quintic stuff here guys! My putter fittings regarding length have always been about posture position (read eye over edge of ball) and comfort to the point of gripping blank shaft with putter head attached and simply marking the spot to cut. Historically putted with full toe hang 8802, Palmer original, Tommy Armour blade styles and have aged to face balanced Ping Nome. The putters have gotten shorter as well. Recent fittings have employed a high speed camera with goal of having ball begin roll before it passes left foot (right handed). I was surprised during fitting that my aim changed as length changed... was curious to see if you guys thought of pulling out laser pointer with Matt... delivering square to intended path with loft that initiates roll as soon as possible (changes with stimp no?) will impact confidence from green to green. I'm now on search for slight toe hang as I think I'm missing left too often....Ping adjustable being purchased for my son this season... great growing junior idea Matt! Cheers

[@Rich-in6ds]

I’m 6ft3 and have a 34 inch putter because it’s a face-balanced mallet and you need to be quite bent over to get the forearms straight with the shaft. For me, forearms in line with the shaft is the biggest factor in putting on a line consistently.

[@jlluthe]

Would be interesting to see a test of hovering the putter like Rickie Fowler.

[@11golfnut11]

Congratulations on a Fantastic video.

[@L1GHTHECANDLE]

Hi guys! I added length to my putter last year just to be more comfortable and it was best thing I’ve ever done to my putter! Another great video, one question, how does quintic compare to Sam putt lab, and which would you suggest?

[@andrefrojd2440]

wooow, you put out banger after banger. Awesome content!!

[@ryanredding6396]

First of all, as always, Brilliant! Thank you guys for creating these videos and helping us learn so much. My question is, in general, whether for driver, irons, putter, etc., during a fitting, how much do you guys prefer players relying on strictly the numbers that you get using the technology to determine the best fit versus a player's preferences in terms of the looks and feel of the club? In other words, what's a good balance between what the numbers say is the best fit versus perhaps what 'felt' and 'looks' best to a player? Cheers!

[@banditbaker1675]

Thanks Guys, that was fascinating. On a less technical viewpoint, I have often thought that for fellow Seniors a Longer Putter length would be easier on the back and less painful, allowing us to do a little more Putting practice.

[@robvivian7182]

Again a great video! One question - How does changing shaft length of a putter affect swing weight or is it really a concern with a putter?

[@tomdiebold79]

It is absolutely changing the swing weight ! So at the extremes (either short or long), it would be a significantly different feel -- whether that suites you are not is somewhat a matter of preference.

[@robertbrown8425]

Please don't forget to remind viewers how to read the greens. If PLUMBING one eye is dominant and explain how to establish which eye it is. Ensure the putter shaft is parallel to a known vertical surface - say the edge of a door frame at home - check it with a spirit level 1st, and which edge (closest to hole??) of the putter shaft to set your line to the hole. Aim to strike the middle of the ball with an upward strike from the middle of the putter. Do you recommend starting with the putter resting flat upon the green or hovering in readiness for the mid ball strike?

[@banditbaker1675]

Panic over, I saw this in my recommended list and thought that I had missed a TXG vid, now I just have 4 hours to get my Heart rate back to normal!

[@joshuak5757]

I couldn’t keep up. If the putter is too short will I miss to the left or the right?

[@whiskerrub]

Hit the sweet spot again TXG! So just so we are clear here, are all your putters which TXG handles they are available in both left and right handed?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Not all, but lots!

[@MARTIN-xt5zk]

Great vid.. interesting. Also like the Andy Gorman series on putting. He suggest you should go as long as possible to get the right posture?

[@Ibizassini]

What are you thoughts on the trend of longer putters and more loft like the one of Web Simpson, what is the equipment trying to do there?

[@James_Vaughn]

I'd like to see that as well.

[@thomascairns4216]

How about some help choosing the right driver head loft and what difference it makes. Be fun to see Matt hit the two or three different heads from one manufacturer to see the difference and then if they have enough adjustments to put them to where Matt sets his would really like to see how much difference it makes

[@mikecook8059]

Very informative, really learned a lot!! Thanks!

[@garygupton9829]

I have the Sigma 2 ZB 2 with strong arc/toe hang. It is a nice putter, but not sure if I really need the strong arc model. I need to get up to Toronto.

[@petercusanelli5663]

I had an old schooler club fitter give me what he said was a 1 of 3 tour exclusive Bobby grace putter with Damascus steel insert... should this be gamed or shelved? Never had a Bobby grace putter before

[@kyletinschert1493]

I just bought this putter like 20 mins ago and now I’m watching this video😂

[@jamesfuller9810]

same lmao

[@stevewu3502]

Love you channel and content; I've learned quite a lot. I'm six feet tall and have a 35 inch putter. However, I never hold the putter at the very end but let my hands find their comfortable grip. This leaves about an inch on the butt end of the club. What effect does that have on putting and the swing weight vs. cutting the club down an inch?

[@tomdiebold79]

I think you are creating a bit of counter balance with extra club above your hands. Cutting it down would definitely change the swing weight. Swing weight was something they did NOT mention in this video. To keep swing weight relatively the same, Evnroll had 385 gram heads for 33", 370 gram heads for 34" and 355 gram heads for 35" putters.

[@daniel80111]

Great information. How often do you find different grip sizes and shapes affect face angle?

[@dagerikwiig4504]

Interesting video. One question, at the end you say that toe hang putter rotates faster - which means more weight in the toe (correct?). Will the putter head rotate faster?

[@michaelwilliamson3737]

Great technology guys. Do the pros all like this sort of fit or do they just know what types of putters they like? I imagine that Bryson loves this where as most would just work on the practice green to get it right.

[@dmeriwether16]

From the optimum ranges you described for face angle and rotation and seeing the “sweet spot” spot in Matt’s srtikes, it looked like the optimum length was 34”. Right?

[@thebeardedyorkshireman8368]

Great video, what jacket are you wearing the black and red one? I’ve bought a Scotty squareback 1.5 but I am looking to get it fitted is that easy to do?

[@Godisnotjesus1967]

Will making a putter head smaller breach any rules? If I cut part of the putter TOE off? Thus shortening the length between heel and toe by 20mm

[@mctayto1]

Where can you get the iping cradle and mat that you referred to when fitting Matt for a putter

[@mattsheehan5033]

Awesome video! Do you guys foresee ping licensing that technology to other companies? In my opinion it’s a complete game changer and provides so much value for the consumer. Additionally, if they don’t license it, do you foresee yourself or other fitters equipping other putters with the ping shaft to help fit not ping heads?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Will be interesting to see what happens with it for sure,!

[@GregVanGorp]

Let's say I can't get into a fitting center, but I know my putter is too long at 35". Any way to identify the proper length at home? I've previously got some data through SAM showing I hit the ball on the upswing at 3.2 degrees and leave the face open 1.1 degrees (putter is currently 1 degree flat and 2 degrees of loft). Sounds like it might be more of a comfort thing when it comes to putters. So just find a length that feels comfortable to me and go with that and make sure the loft/lie are adjusted to fit the resulting roll?

[@jlluthe]

Or compare a regular putter fitting to an edel putter fitting. Not sure if you carry Edel in your shop.

[@justinjames9299]

Hey Ian, any chance about doing putter lie please?

[@boogiebear2112]

Isao Aoki also had an extreme toe up putting style.

[@Ditmanppi]

And he was an exceptional putter on both tours.

[@markshaw6190]

Could Matt have been fitted for a putter length that was comfortable to him and then have the head's loft/lie adjusted to optimize launch/closure/spin/etc as opposed to changing the putter head to optimize closure rate?

[@keithhassall8482]

Fitted for a putter 7months ago. 6ft tall playing with a 35" shaft toe hang blade type. After fitting 33" shaft and face balanced mallet type. The putter fitted was a regular off the shelf model.Supplier maintained there model was hand assembled.After the fitting fee increased putter cost to 70% more than off the shelf model. Yes do put well with it. Even better after i identified a huge error in my putting stroke. Would i use the supplier again NO.

[@jasonhurtaha4440]

Are you guys gonna do a review on the Odyssey strokelab putters?Tried one in store and they feel phenomenal. Thinking about going to get fitted for one.

[@clubchampionmedia]

Yes, planning to

[@NWP4440]

My question about those adjustable putters, is what happens when you need to replace the grip, or want a different style?

[@dlstoneyd]

If the ball is back in your stance a bit, wouldn’t that produce an open face angle at strike?

[@larryyoung9106]

How about some information on the arm lock putter?

[@johnquantran]

Where can I find this putter fitting in San Diego, CA? Are you planning setup a location in San Diego, CA?

[@dominicst-onge2250]

how about a TXG in Montreal guys!!! Just take my money!

[@winslowlord3294]

Is this adjustable putter length just a Ping thing? How are the grip companies going to adjust to this?

[@Jason-mg6kb]

Hey, is there any chance you guys could test durability of golf balls. For instance, do scuffs and cuts on the cover actually affect playability?

[@philwilliamson1177]

That would have to be an outdoor test with a trackman. Mark Crossfield did a test with Titleist that covers some of the information. It can and does change the aerodynamics of the ball.

[@alanburch8499]

What would be a good impact loft? I’ve just bought a evnroll and it has 2 but ping tend to have 3 loft.

[@craigedga4r]

🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟 vlog Ping sigma with handle can be used as a tool - right length - why dont manufacturers give the fitters the right tools!!!💪💪💪👍👍👍🙂🙂🙂

[@CanadianBiPolarBear]

What part of canada are you guys in?

[@craigedga4r]

Did you do a vlog about MOI, wieghts, etc???

[@jonm2522]

where can you get this sort of service in Gold Coast Australia, this is very helpful.

[@joeyeh6707]

Cool Clubs @ Carrara

[@mattleader821]

I’m right handed and left eye dominant. Do I need to adjust my ball position accordingly? I putt with decent pace but I rarely start The ball on my intended line

[@courtsy]

I found out last that I am left eye dominant, and right handed, so I played with closing my right eye to align and only opened upon taking the backswing. Sunk everything under 12 foot.

[@Calibigguy]

What system are you using to measure the strokes? What’s your thoughts on the SAM system?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Quintic Ball Roll - SAM is also good but we prefer this

[@Calibigguy]

Thank you for the response!

[@steinfonell4915]

Do you know of a good club fitter in the Dallas-Fort Worth region?

[@briancatt7813]

Not sure if you ever found anyone, but you can start here. It's the Golf Digest's America's Top 100 Clubfitter list. www.golfdigest.com/story/clubfitter-directory-americas-best-clubfitters

[@randymahony8157]

What do you think of the forearm length shaft?

[@Blincan]

Wish I was in Canada to come see you guys. Great content!

[@thomaswhitcombe7236]

Hi guys, what putter shaft length would you recommend for 6.2 height?

[@jadamane]

Ian is have a question I’m 5’11 and wrist top floor measurement my knuckle reach 30 inches. What length putter you recommend 33,34,35?

[@CountMackula]

33

[@829smith]

how tall is Matt? Doesn't the height of the person putting have a lot to do with the length of their putter.?

[@leafs2994]

Swingweight?

[@gggchurch]

Evnroll - Gravity Grip vs. Stability Shaft.

[@stevewatson9751]

Yes please!

[@shanerd699]

Are you guys located downtown Toronto?

[@clubchampionmedia]

Leslie/York Mills area

[@ScratchArkkitehti]

You guys should really focus more on some short game stuff or you are gonna wear out Matty by season 3!

[@Mackaygolf]

That...was...awesome!!!

[@tjkatsoulas9859]

How tall is Matt? I am 6'0" and have the sigma ZB 2 and prefer the putter at 33"

[@clubchampionmedia]

5'11"

[@BF3slasher]

Matt is a cyborg 😂

[@BShawPresents]

how tall of a guy is Matty? Around 6'?

[@boogiebear2112]

Btw check out Randy from Fried Eggs golf review of the Ping Sigma 2, it's hilarious! kzbin.info/www/bejne/bqjOm2eKntN5mLc

[@plus2golfer12]

Well I guess I'm in the 1% because I play 29.5" and 405g head weight

[@Dan-nh8nu]

Whats matty's height?

[@CraigalFun]

It frightens me that odyssey on their website cannot describe face balanced and toe hang correctly. Make me angry

[@johncello7767]

I like the videos but you spend too much time talking and not enough showing what you are claiming in the titles. Also, leave the computer screens up a little longer so we can see what you are talking about

[@tomdiebold79]

That's why the invented the pause button -- you can read for as long as you like.