CHRIS K. 4-BET BLUFFS HIS FORMER COACH! | Poker Out Loud - Student Episode 7 | Solve For Why TV

[@josephp437]

I love how complex poker like this is. Chin says before 3betting the AJhh he has a call if Chris 4b, which is instantly correct, however when Chris chooses 1100 instead of what Chin deemed proper sizing (900ish), it moves Chin to being allowed to fold under the assumption Chris can't fold to a shove anymore. Amazing how fine the line really is in this game.

[@sammyajose1267]

"the ability to make decisions under incomplete information"

[@pizzaguy2959]

Never getting the right odds to over calls T3o from BB 4 ways lol

[@Steve-eb8jc]

I think if I were playing 9 max and it went UTG min open and 7 calls I still fold T3o every time at any stack depth but then again I'm not in the S4Y lab

[@dgcfgfgfgffgf]

Sisyphus him saying he gets a better price as it’s multi-way is just downright wrong and fish logic. Even though it’s an absolutely awful defend either way, you’d much rather defend vs just one player, as you realise equity better, and you’re less likely to be completely crushed. Is this supposed to be coaching?

[@MATTHRPE]

It's not even about odds, it's about how can yoi realize that equity and it's just never gonna hapen. It's never a call...EVER!!!!

[@benlysne]

this video made me realize how much i miss the sound of chips shuffling

[@the_roflcakes]

How I just found these is beyond me. I literally learn more from this series than I do from coaching videos. Great content.

[@xxChacaronXX]

LOL!!! at 11:45 and on.... Chin and Chris staring down while Fausto explaining his thought process.

[@UUESMAN]

21:38 chin’s clap translates to “let’s go! faded the snap call!”... hahaha!

[@christiansoto5591]

Yeah except I couldn’t say it out loud 🤣🤣🤣

[@jacobcadena9345]

So great. Love the content guys. Great break downs.

[@jacobcadena9345]

“where’s the money at?” 😂😂😂

[@3500camarz]

😂😂😂

[@MrPalmersquall]

Poker out loud just seems to be a leveling war between the solve for why crew.

[@SolveForWhy]

Imagine what live poker breaks down to if every person had to justify their actions.

[@MrPalmersquall]

@@SolveForWhy The show is entertaining but you guys deviate from a solid strategy to leveling wars. People that are trying to learn from this and copy what they see will become spewtards. This is more entertainment that solid strategy. I enjoy it for several reasons. Thanks for creating high quality content.

[@SolveForWhy]

@@MrPalmersquall anyone who attempts to learn through mimicking tactics is doomed anyway. If by solid strategy you mean an equilibrium strategy then the challenge would be for you to define the equilibrium. No two environments are the same and what presents as an equilibrium in a vacuum doesn't prove, necessarily, to be consistent in practice. Ppl actually interested in learning will derive a lot of value hearing the flaws and biases in people's dissection of each decision point. Imo, far more so than retroactively looking at how a solver would approach a spot vs an optimal response.

[@MrPalmersquall]

@@SolveForWhy When I say solid I mean TAG not GTO. I don't know any non whales that will 6bet jam TT 300bb deep in a vacuum. It's great for advertising and entertainment value but not for teaching serious poker players. That said, I love what you guys are doing for the poker community and I really enjoy all the content you guys make :)

[@SolveForWhy]

@@MrPalmersquall but this isn't a vacuum

[@Cowtymsmiesznego]

Is it just me or are those guys' pre-flop ranges crazy loose for a no-ante game?

[@GUNNER9119]

Gotta say I love the live commentary. More of this content please.

[@alectorellishiddenchips1725]

Chin is not playing clean here.. He's sitting looking right at Lukich while he's talking about what he's doing then rips 10s.. I mean I probably rip there too anyway given the situation but cmon he's looking right at him it's not hard to read lips..

[@tomprice4016]

Awesome screen name.

[@kamikazefireball]

"Where's the money at?"

[@tylerjoyner9865]

On another level the work they’ve put in

[@JORKONER15]

is TT a standard 6bet jam bu vs sb for 300bb?

[@Iamchuable]

pls don't try this at your local 2/5

[@williamzagarella8066]

Lol obviously not. But against certain players, absolutely.

[@CommonSensePhilosophy]

This is cool I've never seen this before. One suggestion would be to make the stats a little bigger because you can barely see it on a phone.

[@MikeHoltzPoker]

Wouldn't it be more interesting to do this but with 2-3 solve for why guys and 3-4 none s4y guys to see the difference in thought process and results? Here its certainly fascinating but because everyone is thinking at such a high level it doesn't show off the product as much as it could

[@bubba316999]

They have done it with Run it Up guys on a live stream a few months ago a couple of times.

[@SolveForWhy]

Go to S4Y TV. We invite guests every season including Lucky Chewy, Jesse Sylvia, Kelly Minkin, Nick Howard and others.

[@Handless26]

Just realized that Chris K. is Linguini from Ratatouille :)

[@synchronium24]

There is some physical resemblance.

[@mrredflame3778]

14:15 the salt of losing. gotta love it

[@Dewyyyyyy]

Buddy was tilted lol. Getting bodied by his student 😤

[@NotfromDateline]

very cool concept!

[@CamDStaff]

Everyone looses money on the river except for Berkey. The man has alligator blood in his veins. Chris did everything he could to disguise his holding. Wow.

[@NKKK19]

@16:00 Chin, who 3bets to 310, let alone 390 over a 40 open+call? Do you routinely 3bet so large?

[@Masterdebater14]

And then tells opponent that he miss-sized and fold best hand

[@ryang255]

I have a question on the last hand. Is Chris checking river hoping to check raise a bet from Berkey because he has to know he's ahead here right? Also isn't he losing value more often than not checking both turn and river with a nutted draw/hand?

[@japoske2]

These are fun to watch. Thanks

[@xanderlinde8746]

Everything’s always “an interesting spot” or “an interesting card”

[@sejje]

That's pretty expected when they cherry pick the hands they're going to put into a show.

[@thebulnas1411]

Sounds like a great drinking game

[@sampantiliano]

Hmmm.. I feel like the format causes everyone to try and play perfectly where if it was a normal game some decisions are swayed by experience gut feeling.

[@George-do9yi]

Why is Chin allowed to stare everyone while they talk?

[@PriusMike88]

Because he’s slimy

[@coolbeans8682]

Chris K reminds me of a slightly cooler version of Stevie Janowski from Eastbound & Down.

[@derekdaddyo2557]

Berkey you gotta put a shot clock on the talking

[@rooksman64]

how about you play vs people you didn’t coach or people that don’t play like you think they play?

[@SolveForWhy]

Check out the first 4 seasons at tv.solveforwhy.io

[@xxChacaronXX]

How does A4o have 45% equity vs A2s @ 25:16 ... I guess it's a split between them a lot (9 flush outs x 2 = about 18% equity... and Chris has 10% over Berky).. I know I would of over valued that for sure. (would of thought A4o would be much lower on a split board drawing against a flush)

[@OsefKincaid]

"Oh he missized" stuff is clearly said to protect your ego in case you fold the best hand... Sounds like a habit to get rid of. Also from a UTG starting range you can probably exploit a 8x raise by continuing with premiums only or close to that, I haven't mapped it yet because who does 8x lol but hard to believe you have to continue with anything worse than AJ there

[@christiansoto5591]

Sizing is usually a representation of section in a range. Often people do mis-size in according to what their range is incentivized to do. It’s important to point that out to yourself. Sorry if that came across as ego attachment to you. Also, I guess in a way I’m glad I took an action that you didn’t already have mapped out. Generally it’s tougher when there is no pre-ran solve/map to give the answer. I’m open to hearing what the mapping says if you care to share with me.

[@williamzagarella8066]

@@christiansoto5591 but he did mis size. Calling there leaves you with less than a 1:1SPR. Before he 4-bet I expected a sizing of roughly 850, as I would go. I guess it's the correct size for his exact hand in this situation, but again, if he only takes this sizing with his bluffs, well, you get the point. That would have made me a bit curious and I may have leaned towards a jam considering there are going to be some bluffs in that range and when there are, he gets absolutely punished because of his sizing he almost becomes priced in. Against a bad player, snap fold. Against somebody capable, I like sticking it in at a really high frequency; basically 75% of my 3betting for value range. Folding the J10s and 910s QJs Q10s etc. Hands that dont block anything, and are obviously still behind some of his bluffs. But A10s AJs AQs KQs 99+, mostly gettin ripped.

[@kyle7950]

Idk why but Chris K looks EXACTLY like a kid that would be on a “stake” @ 2/5 n get dropped no offense

[@WretchOnYT]

This price guy really loves himself huh

[@FaithfulReasoning]

You dont have all that time to overanalyze you gotta have a feel too

[@davidstevens3934]

Chin doesn't like Chris's 4 bet sizing because it prices him in on a shove, but then says he should have 3 bet bigger to make Chris fold or shove, enabling him to fold himself to the shove. Effectively what Chris did. Slightly more expensive for Chris to do it when 4 betting but it's the same principle no?

[@Masterdebater14]

300bb deep, wants to make it 400 to force chris to shove or fold, but think 1100 is wrong size 4b. How about making the 3b 200 instead and being able to call a 4b if he wants to

[@williamzagarella8066]

Chin did go like 8x already which is a little big. But for people say mis sizing on his part obviously not lol. Thinks he has the best hand and you want to be playing bigger pots, in position, when you have the best hand, no? I think that's perfect sizing. He actually ended up inducing with it. 1100 is the wrong sizing on 4b. 850-900 is the sizing you want to go with all your hands.

[@derickjcole]

this real money or simulated ?

[@SolveForWhy]

real money

[@3500camarz]

@@SolveForWhy real money

[@youngdoodle]

Never supposed to flat LJ vs HJ in almost any solver created preflop range. great first hand lol.

[@singaporecrypto]

what tier 1 tier 2 linear bs you guys making up?

[@christiansoto5591]

Hey bud. Poker Language is just a communication or translation of math. Therefore, as much as you say BS we making up, we just can’t make up math. As a result, it’s probably more beneficial to ask which section of the spectrum of equity is being labeled the way Chris K mentioned. Thank you for watching.

[@synchronium24]

"Therefore, it’s probably more beneficial to ask which section of the spectrum of equity is being labeled the way Chris K mentioned." Exactly. I'm glad Chris clarified that tier one linear included hands like AJs and KQs. I initially thought he meant only premium pocket pairs and maybe AK.

[@HRinc]

"Therefore, it’s probably more beneficial to ask which section of the spectrum of equity is being labeled the way Chris K mentioned." more BS in the BS defence....... classic