Roglič Might Race AGAINST Pogačar at World Champs

[@wernererasmus2334]

I can't precisely remember, but I recall Jonas attacking Sep first 🤔

[@HatRock]

Jumbo did a disaster move with Roglic that cost them him to leave the team. It wasn't Roglic stab on Sepp, it was Jumbo stab on Roglic.

[@ruiteixeira1594]

@@HatRock Rule number ONE NEVER ATAQUE YOUR LEADER

[@recrevs963]

yeah when i saw jonas added last minute to vuelta after it was booked for roglic after the giro i knew something is wrong. worked out for them in vuelta and the 2023 year but that made them choose who their future leader was. maybe it works out in long run but with Rogla you had guaranteed 2 seasons of winning.

[@HatRock]

@ruiteixeira1594 that's exactly what Jumbo did to Roglic when they added Jonas to La Vuelta and then they didn't know how to react to the media created Soap Opera about Sepp's momentary leadership. That Vuelta was set for Primoz since 2022 for several reasons, he was working for that and suddenly I don't know what happened inside the team that they decided to change things, maybe they felt that Primoz winning both Giro and Vuelta would take out the spotlight from Jonas TdF wins. It was a stab to Primoz and a very ugly one.

[@davorklemen3194]

Chris, TJV directors created the rift at last year Vuelta. Roglič stayed with Sepp, while Jonas was allowed to do that "For Nathan" bullshit move. Would you, in Rogla's shoes, not be pissed off and attack on the next stage?

[@JagannathMoorthy]

Exactly, it was for daughter, for Nathan, Roglic didn’t respond as he was the ideal teammate. And yet, somehow Jonas is the nice guy and Rog the villain?

[@swissbiggy]

Yep, Chris Horner is completely wrong on this topic....... If there was one rider who stabbed Kuss in the back it was Vingegaard......

[@dkriz8306]

Totally agree here TJV directors betrayed Roglič and he did not stab Sep in the back. It was more so Jonas who chased down Roglič in his stage win that brought Jonas near Sepp. Roglič was further back on time and not a risk to take the red jersey. Love the analysis Chris but your continuation of labeling Roglič as a back stabber is incorrect and unjustified.

[@rejdy]

@@dkriz8306 Exactly, it was thanks to Landa who pulled Sepp to the finish, otherwise he would have lost the red to Jonas

[@swissbiggy]

@@rejdy I am so happy to find out that there are many people ou there who actually know what happened just a season ago. 🦋✌️👌

[@trdi]

There are so many false claims in this video and this is not a matter of a different opinion - they are factually incorrect. 1. It would be a knucklehead move to talk about any kind of strategy. It's better to hide, always. It's not a matter of "manning up". Belgian team didn't have an option to hide the strategy. But Slovenian team did have, so it's good that they were not talking about it. 2. Mezgec said today before the start of the race that the team has only one captain and that everyone in the team knows it. 3. UAE gave their team bus and half of the staff to Slovenian team. It's obvious that they are not going to do this unless Pogacar is the captain. 4. Pogacar said after the race that Roglic asked him should he go and try to gap to the breakaway group, like Tratnik did. Pogacar said to go, but the other teams didn't let Roglic go and Pogacar used the opportunity to start his own 100km attack. Roglic is not going to be asking Pogacar for green light unless Pogacar was the captain and they discussed these options before. 5. There were no Pogacar / Roglic clans. Tratnik was not asked to wait for Pogacar, they had no radio connection anyway. He was told by the official motorbike guy (the one who was showing the times) that Pogacar was attacking. So Tratnik decided to wait for him. Pogacar was surprised to see him, but of course happy. 6. Roglic did not backstab Kuss. At least not any more than Jonas did. Jonas attacked first, got two wins that he did for his neighbor's dog and I believe for uncle's son's teacher's cat. So bunch of excuses trying to get wins and win the Vuelta. During all this time Roglic stayed next to Kuss. Then, when Roglic says it's my turn, I want to win the climb I circled at the start of the year, the Angliru, Jonas was supposed to return the favor and stay with the race leader. But he is a selfish bastard and didn't want to. So all this non-sense hate is just a lie. Roglic was the strongest rider in the race and didn't win. The rest of the team should thank him.

[@urosvalant978]

Perfect reply, kudos

[@rubiera58]

Sorry ridiculously silly video. Regardless of what Slovenia DS or Tadej or Primoz have in mind why would they share their intentions in a press conference? Personally think pre-race cycling interviews may be the dumbest of any sport when asking riders to reveal their tactics in advance. It's not rocket science: unless Tadej and Primoz end up actively chasing each other down -- perhaps like Boyer and Lemond for US years ago (depends whose story you believe) -- having both going for the win, or at least their competitors thinking that's a possibility, is a plus for Slovenia.

[@curfi]

Totally agree!

[@milhouse53]

Why should he reveal his plans? Both riders were vert coy. They have a plan and they dont need anyone to know

[@saturnative]

Eat this Chris! Pog world champ!!! 🚴🥇👑

[@saturnative]

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[@kmann12764]

Roglic or Vingegaard could have crushed Sepp any time they wanted in that Vuelta. But they let Kuss have it. Horner shit talking Roglic is some kind of weird assed biased bs.

[@Flexo_l]

Vingegaard went solo too and got a stage win if I remember correctly.

[@Dalmore420]

​@@Flexo_lJonas went solo twice! Hate towards Roglic is stupid...Chris is an american so stupidness comes with them...

[@keirfarnum6811]

If they could have, they would have.

[@TheSlowoldman]

@@Dalmore420 Classy comment, shows your lack of intellect. With 420 in your name one could determine you've burned a few too many brain cells.

[@fiddleronthebike]

if Roglic is not at 100% he certainly will ride for Pogacar - he has done that for Vingegaard and others before; and then we can expect him give all he has. But if he is at 100% I'm sure he will not sacrifice his own chance, after all it may be his last change to get the jersey! Then I expect him to stay patient (what he has learnt over the years...), and if Pogacar goes he will not be the one to chase him - he rather will follow all the riders from Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, and if they chase down Pogacar he then has a fair chance to beat them in the final, In any case, I expect an exciting race!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Let’s hope it is. I’m guessing you could be right but I’m thinking it will be in reverse. Roglic goes early and Pogi follows. 👊🦋🔥

[@ogradar85]

Completely delusional rambling...Primož never stabbed Sepp in the back, it was actually Jonas who did that. And why exactly would Primož, Pogi or Slovenian DS reveal their tactics to the press before the race? Primož always gives the same pr non-answer no matter what question they ask him. He's not going to please someone who rants on youtube, to risk the team's tactical options. He will always keep you and other teams guessing. You're overthinking this Slovenia dynamic Chris. Primož is still recovering from riding the Vuelta and knows Pogi has been specifically preparing for this race. The roles have been set, he will help Pogi, but will also gladly take advantage if other teams let him go. There's also another factor in this - the next 3 WC races are all going to be very hilly with big amounts of vertical meters, so plenty of chances for either Pogi or Primož in the next couple of years.

[@daberstedt8219]

Sadly junior rider Muriel Furrer died after her crash in the juniors race 😢

[@markmartin4793]

🙏🏽🙏🏽 devastating smh

[@wimve4719]

😞Indeed, it is often forgotten how dangerous this sport has become. I'm from BE. In some race the commentators where saying: "The peleton is walking" ... translated: 50 km/h (roughly 32 m/h). It's getting insane. Imagine yourself in a bunch slightly touching the backwheel of someone in front of you, going down and taking just about the rest behind you out. Going down a descent at 90 to a 100 km/h (56 m/h) and misjudging a bend ... I think, this and last year has proven that measures need to be taken ... unfortunatly not because of some mere accidents but people losing their lives. RIP Muriel Furrer, an 18-year old who was chasing her dreams 😭

[@Wds__99]

Terrible news. UCI should really reconsider holding races in the rain.

[@patrickwong4824]

This is sad but not shocking news. Cycling is, was and always will be a very dangerous sport. It is probably the only sport that makes F1 look safe. If F1 had a death rate similar to that of pro cycling, the drivers would be demanding changes. Why aren’t our professional riders doing the same of the UIC? RIP Muriel Furrer.

[@Mike-rm1lb]

​@@Wds__99 I agree, especially for juniors with little experience, on a pretty technical circuit to boot. She was barely an adult. Should 18 year olds be allowed to risk their lives for our entertainment? A race can be postponed.

[@cooldude.1811]

I feel the dynamic between them will be similar to that between Remco and Wout at the past few WCs and this year's Olympics. Whoever has the better legs goes for it.

[@imranwahid11]

Chris, you said 80km attack will be stupid. Pog listen to you and did a 100km attack! 😂

[@swissbiggy]

Chris, it is called the triple crown because in the past it was simply impossible to ride all three Grand Tours in one and the same year. Both Vuelta and Giro were raced in the spring and it was impossible to ride them both... The combination Vuelta-Tour or Giro-Tour was possible, and the third big prize to win after that was the World's.... And that is why it is called the triple crown... It is only in 1995 that the Vuelta moved to it's current place on the calendar. ✌

[@ardnax]

That's still 3 decades where it has been a possibility and therefor should be the triple crown now

[@swissbiggy]

@@ardnax I agree without any hesitation ✌️👍 I only tried to explain Chris why it's called the triple crown... Nothing more and nothing less... Although I do think that Chris is sometimes playing games with us, because he's from a generation that should know this of course... And he knows 😉🦋🦋🦋 I am about twenty years older, and a bit more. 😅 And I remember those days very well.... Our sport does love it's traditions, but yes I do agree that the name/title "triple 👑" could be changed.... But knowing the responsable/marketing people at UCI they will come up with a new title the moment a rider will win all three Grand Tour's in one season.

[@jaspermeinema4830]

​@@swissbiggygrand tour slam?

[@swissbiggy]

@@jaspermeinema4830 for example .. or just a Grand Slam, as we know it from the world of tennis.... Everybody in the world, even people without any knowledge of the sport it self, will understand that a unique achievement has been reached by winning the multiple Grand prizes in one and the same season in that particular sport.... 🦋✌️👌

[@jaspermeinema4830]

@@swissbiggy i still don't understand what made Pog let this unique chance slip. Fear of doping allegations and being chased by all kinds of investigative journalists perhaps?

[@J-cz7yv]

Primoz such a nice guy 😅

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🤪😬🔪🦋👊

[@HeadPack]

Pogi defied all the predictions.

[@hedleykerr3564]

It makes me think back to the 1982 World Championships with the Americans Greg LeMond and Jonathan Boyer! Certainly no love lost between those 2 that day and ever after! Great job as always Chris!

[@mikegiunta4560]

Solvenia DS "Pog you follow MVDP and Remco. Rog follow everybody else. Dont attack yourself until 3 laps to go."

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

It just maybe that simple. 😂🦋👊👊👊

[@guitawrizt]

I suspect they'll finish together 'holding hands'.

[@perryvath7617]

…in 2nd & 3rd

[@fredtatch1572]

Thanks for saying this possibility! They are both pretty nice guys and that would be perhaps even a more special victory.

[@ginyamaguchi1421]

​@@perryvath7617😂

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

❤️😘😍😊🥰🤪🦋🔪🩸

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Nothing like a little drama to spice up a race. Can't wait to see how it plays out.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

👊🔥💥🦋👊

[@saturnative]

The only drama here is in Horners head.

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

@@saturnative And how beautiful it is! I'm glad he shares it with us.

[@jimijj8325]

Primoz mentored Tadej as he was coming up in the professional ranks and they remain close today. Primoz will not race against Tadej unless he is having a bad day, otherwise he will surely be working with him to help him win.

[@NettGG]

One thing Chris Horner didn't notice is that Roglic is the greater beneficiary with pogacar on his team , if pogacar attacks early and the other Teams start to chase him hard ,then there is a huge chance for Roglic to win. The only thing to do is to follow the Belgian ,French ,USA and the Dutch ,and if they bring pogacar back then there is a huge chance for Roglic. Mark my words .

[@mracer8]

Mark my words! unless you are a nobody, you are not going to "attacks early"

[@bjornlangoren3002]

​@@mracer8Yes not a likely scenario. Any breakaway group with a top rider would be relentlessly chased. And there is plenty of non climbing distance each lap where a big group or peleton can make up time.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yes. You are correct. Roglic could just be floating behind on the pedals resting while they chase Pogi all day long. 🦋👊

[@leduch]

and a spanish will win !

[@matthook5932]

One thing is certain. Remco will go early. I'm imagining something similar to the gravel stage in the TDF. Tadej will go with and they won't see them again.

[@nazgulzg]

Stabbing Sepp? Roglic wanted Angliru and he finished 3rd, while Jonas who attacked Sepp more times (and gained more time) then Primoz finished 2nd and now Rogla is the bad guy? BTW Vuelta was set for Roglic and Jonas was called to help Roglic. As we all know, both of them gifted Kuss the Vuelta so instead of "thank you" you bring up all the time it was Roglic who "stabbed" Kuss in the back although Jonas attacked him more times for more seconds?

[@donwell03]

My guess would be, Roglic will start attacking other nations favorites (Remco/MVDP/others) in Lap 1 of the circuit. Just like Visma did in TDF 2022 where they attacked Pogacar frequently. Pogacar will be there marking MVDP/Remco once Roglic attack. Last 2 laps will be the Pogi show. Pogi domestique of this race are Remco/MVDP/other favorites.

[@90330]

Mohorič is allready a 3 times world champion.

[@VWDoug1]

Hoping Roglic wins, because he is older. TP is young and will have plenty of chances!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

It’s true. We never know how many more chances Roglic will have between his age and his hard crashes. 🦋🤞

[@fredtatch1572]

It’s great to hear your pre-race analysis of the pushes and pulls that drive these guys racing strategies. I hope crashes have dramatic effects on overall results.

[@fredtatch1572]

I meant to say I hope crashes don’t have a dramatic effect on overall results but what I wrote was more dramatic 😯

[@lisakeller9887]

Jonas stabbed Sepp more than Primoz. Why do you give him a pass?

[@raahauge]

Nonsense. Roglic were leaving the team and had no incentive to give away a Vuelta victory.

[@swissbiggy]

@@raahauge Which is normal if he did already have to stay away from the Tour to let Jonas win..... Roglic is a winner, and he's not in the team to give away two Grand Tours in one season..... It was a shit decision anyway for what Visma did pay a big prize this season... Sep Kuss is and has always been "just a domestic"..

[@camillelively]

🙄

[@colinjockgraham]

Jonas is not riding , irrelevant

[@AdrrejHanzelj]

@@raahauge even worse for Jonas. Jonas didn't leave the team and he attacked Kiss several times and brought back time. If I was Roglič or Kuss, I would have been pissed!

[@coopersy]

Why don’t they just work together to the end, then have at the last K, let the best men win. Those two together would be a hell of a breakaway…

[@daviddang82]

I’d rather see roglic win and wears the rainbow bands all next year. Pogi is still young and has a lot of time to get it. I think roglic deserves it.

[@thatsounditmakes9177]

"The Triple that Pogacar gave up on..." Shots fired, geez... 😂

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Hehehe. Nobody just gets their feet rubbed on our channel. 😂🦋👊

[@tomschenk5148]

Remind me again, who is the number one rider in the world? 😂😂😂 Thanks for another great video.

[@TD05SSLegacy]

Roglic is a pro. If Poggie wants him to work for him he has to meet his price. 🎉

[@dr.merlot1532]

It's going to be a furious game of rock paper scissors, best out of 3, or maybe best of 5.

[@robertbonnette1253]

For this race I say they should help each until the end then they should each go for gold and the best man wins.

[@GregorBrown]

Thanks for the mention ❤

[@dejankolar120]

As I understand they caled triple (Giro, TdF, WC), from before Vuelta even was a race

[@CliftonDon74]

Thanks Chris!

[@telapreta9795]

how cool it would be to see Primoz in the rainbow jersey for a year 🌈 hahahahahaha just dreaming here thanks chris and garrett for the great work

[@MatejKavcic17]

Well the only thing i am not right with you saying is that the whole team of Slovenia except Pogačar and Roglič will blow up with 100km to go or more. I think they can at least make it to around 80 - 70km.

[@nigelstead8424]

There’s a lot to be said for that. Remco became World and Olympic Road Race champion by not giving a **** about his teammates. Basically WVA. The Dutch today in the Women’s race tried to race as a team and completely messed up through leaving it to each other.

[@petergranahan311]

Hi Chris The weather is going to change everything. A lot of rain expected. Don’t think your number 1, 2, 3 or 4 is going to do it

[@andrewwalsh4662]

The 3 grand tours is the real TRIPLE, Period.

[@tonyg3091]

Nonsense. Pog spoilt us into believing this is possible. It isn’t.

[@alessandrobardini6885]

It"s TdF GdI and WC for historical reasons, just look at Merckx's palmares. Vuelta is on the map basically from the 2000s

[@tonyg3091]

@@alessandrobardini6885 Even the Triple Crown as it is now has been won by only 2 guys in the entire history of the sport. If Triple Crown means Giro, Tour and Vuelta that would mean probably no one will ever win it and what is the point in such prize?

[@alessandrobardini6885]

The very elite of cycling has been trying Tour, Giro and WC, eg Anquetil, Hinault, Indurain. GC riders have been aiming the "career" triple GT. Vuelta has changed dates and status since, though the "year" triple GT is hard, I agree. Two GT plus one one-day race is more doable than 3 GT, no doubts. Maybe in the future, who knows.

[@buzzman4860]

Not according to tradition.

[@mrgleeco]

Surprised Chris didn't talk weather. Juniors made it look like it mattered.

[@derosa8736]

Slovenian simple tactic is to have both till last lap and than can be anything. They have two options to finish race...

[@richardavallone6043]

Chris, one thing you didn't mention was what do Remco and MVDP do if Roglic goes up the road. Do they chase him or follow Pogacar.

[@overlord580]

So. Pogačar would chase Roglič with Remco and MVDP behind? Lol.

[@davids1033]

Minus the very high mountains, Remco is a monster page 1 rider.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Everyone on page one is monster. 🦋👊💪

[@roberthotter7008]

A racetrack like this will favor solo riders with that big engine. Evenepoel and MVP both could pull out some magic move like they did already before

[@countyrebels]

Roglic never rides the front and Pogacar will be in any move Roglic goes in. When it comes to one day races you can’t compare the two. With good legs for both my money is on Pogacar every time. All the teams are stacked so this will be an interesting one!

[@michaeltelega2632]

I would love to hear your coaching as it relates to the women's world championship race. Especially as it relates to Vollering. Seems she could have made some better choices when she bridged up to her two teammates instead of dropping them.

[@mikemartinez4450]

It should bring more drama and excitement. I think it's fine if they race against each other. At the end of the day it's all about competition where winning becomes the ultimate goal. 🚴🇵🇭

[@sicknorenson]

Serious question: Is there anything at all for Primoz (or other riders) to gain in this situation by helping their teammate win other than a bunch of thank yous? If the answer is no then they should absolutely go get theirs and race how they’d like!

[@vbh4113]

So did Mezgec..I'm really interested what Tratnik thinks about that 🤔

[@PeroPierson]

Chris talking "knucklehead" stories

[@josepheads5589]

I hope Roglic rides for himself. Pog is going to win either way and I prefer fireworks to teamwork!

[@heronemosheppard8877]

F**** tht sh**. Rogy is a ego back stabber. Anyone but primose pls.

[@Jenito120]

Poggy know how to ride for himself...unless there is a mechanic problem, nothing can stop him

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🔥💥🎇🧨🤪🦋👊

[@ales-si3797]

So many keep repeating the wrong narrative about vuelta 2023. 🤔 As I remember it was Jonas trying to be smart and attacked a stage before to get from 3rd to 2nd position in gc, ahead of Primož, just in case Sepp wouldn't be strong enough. 😏 Primož got stabbed twice, once before the race and once during the race, by TJV and by Jonas. BTW it is not the first time Primož and Tadej race together in Slovenian team. 😉

[@clayvianwilliams6125]

Jonas and Rog were fighting for the win. They were both trying to be sneaky but unlike Jonas roglic make it clear that he wanted to win.

[@GraemeBeardsley]

Absolutely right

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I have said Jonas started it all in earlier videos. In this video there was no reason to bring up Jonas because he’s not racing here. But from now on, I should bring it up just so I don’t have to in the comments. I do 100% agree that Jonas and Jumbo were flicking Roglic and tied hard to flick Sepp. But Roglic joined in on the party stabbing of Sepp so the gloves are off and there’s no reason to sugar coat it. 😂🧤🥊🦋👊🧁

[@Dalmore420]

​@@ChrisHornerCyclinglol...tell us you're murican without telling us you're murican

[@psmejc]

​@@ChrisHornerCycling 'stubbing someone in the back' are very harsh words.. Like you said, there's no need to keep commenting what happened one year ago. But just imagine you're in Primoz' skin. You trained hard to win. And on a first week of racing a team convinced you, that you shouldn't attack, bcs Jonas is not in a best shape yet, so better to wait for him, bcs together you have better chances to win the Vuelta. Sepp went and surprisingly became a race leader. When Jonas got in shape, he asked for permission to attack for Nathan, and then for his daughter. Team JV allowed him. So, if you are in Primoz' skin, and you came in Vuelta in very fine form to win it all and now you have only to ride behind, what would you do? Honestly, if Primoz has already decided back then, "I have enough of this BS games, I'm leaving JV", he should be praised, bcs he has finished his contract in stile and following JV order finally to support Sepp.

[@AdrrejHanzelj]

If Pog and Rog and the whole Slovenian team doesn't work together they all might loose. Roglič needs to work for Pogi, that's the only way

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I got to believe if Roglic helps Pogi the odds go way up for the win also. 🦋💪👊

[@radokostanjevic5478]

@@ChrisHornerCycling, it would be the best possible option for Slovenian team. Roglič to play the role of the super domestic (Yates, Majka), digging hard on the most steep part of the race. First selection made, Pogi continues and rides away. Job done. Both heroes. 🌈🇸🇮 But….

[@zojazaman9272]

​@@radokostanjevic5478Rado ... jaz pa mislim, da bo "glavni", ki bo pomagal Tadeju Domen Novak. Primož nikakor ...

[@radokostanjevic5478]

@@zojazaman9272 , možno. To si nadaljevala po mojem “toda…”

[@joshuacamomot1638]

Pogi is going to race for himself. He will likely stay in front of the race in a small group. Not necessarily his team. He can do breakaways from 80kms out, so that’s probably his plan… Primoz, if he’s eager to chase Pogi, other people will gladly use him. If both Pogi and Primoz both end up in the front pack - neither will be working for the other.

[@tonyvanderstraaten1040]

MVDP OR RAMCO Will be my pick. 👍👍👍♥️♥️♥️ Thanks Chris.

[@thegreatexaggerator9077]

Primos should race for Primos! Who looks out for #1 but yourself. I don’t understand how that is stabbing Tadej in the back. If he has the legs he should go for the win! Having said that, on this course I don’t see anyone beating Tadej!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

If Roglic wins he will be loved in Slovenia. But if he loses and Pogi lost a chance to get the win. It’s going to be ugly back home for Roglic because every cycling fan knows Pogi can win if Roglic can get Pogi close to the finish. 😬🦋🔥💥🧨🇸🇮

[@LadyBird-n2t]

It remains a team sport in the end.. and with Tadej they have a better chance to win this for Slovenia - Promoz should 10000% work for Tadej

[@AdrrejHanzelj]

@@ChrisHornerCycling I'm from Slovenia and I can confirm that is 💯 truth

[@Foxtrottangoabc]

It's gonna be a great race. I think it will be very fast , and a big name will try and breakaway even solo st 80km . A remco or even pogi

[@Lillee1969]

Very simple, if I was director sportif for Slovenia I’d say “Stay at the front, stay together, on last few laps you both attack and work together to break away, don’t care who wins” = Slovenia 1,2

[@oceanfloor258]

Dry forecast for Sunday but it is a technical course, can Roglic deal with that? I can't see him figuring in the final. It's Pog, regardless of team loyalties, MVDP and Remco. Should be a great watch.

[@gobears6487]

On an airplane, have to watch later! 🤓👍

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Good luck with your travels 🧸🦋👊✈️

[@gobears6487]

@@ChrisHornerCycling thanks.... we had ALL the delays. On west coast time now 👍

[@farcydebop]

Imagine what Roglic's career could have been if he wasn't crash prone.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Exactly.😬🦋💪

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Guessing Tadej and Primoz don't call each other home skillet 🤣

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Hehehe. I’m going to use that after Sundays race if there is Drama. 😂🦋👊

[@atoms-to-atoms]

Well said...Rogla is 2nd best...But MVDP is the surprise.

[@user-bd9dp6dw6u]

Suggestion: talk about US team's chances and likely strategy. Seems to me, if the stars neutralize each other, then a breakaway may be the most likely story

[@RudolphWentzel-sy9sg]

I think this race will be much closer than what we might think. It will come down to a bit of luck between the top 5 more than force. The profile is not hard enough to shatter the bunch and the best tactical racer might win..

[@shanakadias1038]

Any particular reason why teams are not using race radios in UCI championships ?

[@furiouseskimo]

You forgot that Stephen Roche also won the TdF, Giro and Worlds in 1987

[@bendardania]

He(Roglic) did help Jonas catch Pogacar on stage 11 at TDF so I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t help. I saw Tadej today in training and he looked very intense. Now, being that Roglic is getting old I do think he cares about his legacy. If he doesn’t help or worse messes Tadej’s chances to win not many people will be happy.

[@jonathanjc1131]

He only did it because he crashed and his GC chances are essentially over. Now remember him attacking Sepp Kuss at la vuelta

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

It could get ugly back home after this race for someone on Slovenia . 😬🦋🔥

[@radokostanjevic5478]

@@ChrisHornerCycling, not at all. Primož has a very strong base of fans back home in Slovenia, who actually “suggest” Primož not to help (!) Tadej at the WC and to ride for himself. Imagine that? They will back him up and find all sorts of excuses. So no worries there…

[@heidewatzka]

Sepp Kuss robbed Roglic and Jonas of winning the Vuelta last year, what are you talking about. Both riders allowed Sepp to be in Red, to give him something back. They allowed him to be in a breakaway early in the vuelta and sobreaking one of the rules, that your number one helper is not allowed to be in a breakaway that early in a race. They allowed him to do so but not to win the race. Thats the difference. I know that hurts your feelings, but you yourself, if it comes to other riders tell us the same thing. And now again, you tell us that Roglic has to work for Tadej...why has Tadej not work for Roglic? Why is Tadej allwowed to attack Roglic, but not the other way arround? Makes no sense!! Btw, Roglic absolutely will Tell Tadej, what he will do in that race. As he told Kuss and also later in the vuelta the reporters. And why isTadej not answering about the tactics? Curios....

[@Michael00000001]

Rumors Primož just called Vollenring for some tactics advice 😂.

[@Servicevelo]

Hirschi. I have a small bet on at 22-1. Got to be worth a punt. Primoz and Tadej being on the same team convinced me. They can cancel each other out.

[@M3Atelier-Initiative]

Tadej mindset ----- STAY AT THE FRONT. That strategy alone will separate Pogi from Rogi. Only Tadej will be able to stay up front and throw digs deep into the race. Roglic has 3wks of Vuelta in the legs _ no way will he have snap late in the race.

[@mgr741]

Good point!

[@dantegarcia878]

Chris, there's no such thing as "buddy 'in these two, period. While there is a TRAITOR, in swiss robot Gianetti who.s clearly rooting for pogi instead af Hirschi. remember, this race is for the Country, NOT FOR TRADE TEAM. Theres a time to earn money and a time to earn respect.

[@starkparker16]

Hornerdamus has predicted Tadej. So let it be written. So let it be done. 🛋️🦋

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

📖🤪😂🦋👊✍️

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🛋️

[@mattheweaton1420]

Rogla only rides for others if he doesn't feel well.

[@roberthotter7008]

Which is a proper way as he can sprint wel. lf the course of race puts hin in this position , who could blame him.

[@DarinMiller]

Scenario 2: Pog has a few more years to win Worlds while Rog options are dwindling. Pog has demonstrated a high level of unselfishness (which one of the many reasons I enjoy watching him). If Rog is strong enough, Pog could attempt to help Rog and try for himself in coming years.

[@swisstopia]

Tomorrow’s forecast for the men’s road race, is cloudy and 58 degrees, with only a 4% chance of rain. The circuit will be dry, but it has a lot of climbing and narrow sections, with tight turns. I think it will come down to not only who’s got the best legs after 270 k, but who is the best bike handler. I know Pidcock isn’t on most people’s short list to win, but I’m starting to believe that he’s got a shot, if he can get away on the final lap. 🦋👊🇨🇭

[@MrBradfordchild]

@@swisstopia neither is Hirshi, and he can ride!

[@swisstopia]

@@MrBradfordchild Hirschi can definitely do it! 👊🦋🇨🇭

[@MrBradfordchild]

@@swisstopia he's my choice!

[@M3Atelier-Initiative]

Remco has the drive and the hunger _ I think Tadej has the hunger too and might have a tactical advantage with wout not around.

[@pauljansen1137]

Good evening dear Chris.....I might be wrong but I don't think Roglic is in the right condition to even be a factor in the absolute final of this race......his timetrial suggested that in my eyes!

[@mikegiunta4560]

I'm of the same mind. If Primos can't follow the late race attacks, I'll bet he pulls the plug and abandons. I don't see that as sabotage, but others might.

[@Mike-rm1lb]

I also think there are several riders who will be stronger on this course.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

I can’t argue you with Paul from what we have seen so far from Roglic, he may not be 100%. But Roglic still found a way to in the Vuelta to be good enough. I’m expecting (hoping maybe is better description) that Roglic has enough to entertain us all one way or another on Sunday. I don’t expect Roglic to have his best legs ever though. 🤔🤞🦋👊🏆🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦋🦵

[@roberthotter7008]

​@ChrisHornerCycling What was helpful @ vuelta will not work the same way in a nervous one day all out worlds. I can't see roglic as a contender, but the race could put him into this position anyway. If TP is at the front and Roglic free to only follow the wheels of the chasers. They both are experienced riders and know how to benefit from each other without having to sacrifice their owm chances completely

[@daleforbes3322]

You don't need to be on your best form to win the worlds. Alaphilippe won it on multiple occasions and he clearly is not the strongest in the peloton. Kiesenhoffer won the women's Olympic road race in 2021 and she can barely get a place on a trade team. Tactics and nous plays as big a factor as pure strength and Roglic has plenty of both.

[@grmma13]

Chris, great after race comment, but before race just trying to find problem scenario when there is none

[@jerrychicken967]

Rog likes to play guessing games. Geraint Thomas said Rog commonly says his legs are bad or he's tired and then he's off down the road later that stage. I think Rog rides for Rog and he likes to play mind games. I think Rog and Pog will ride for themselves. I think Pog will go and if Remco can keep up, they'll work together. Pog will likely be off on his todd. I do wonder and hope that Pog comes off this impossible high level next year as we need competition. At least Lance used to only ride June July + Amstel Gold and leave the rest of the season for the plebs :/

[@StephenCaruthers-q9r]

Isn’t this an individual world title ? I think team titles are the only awards worthy of working together

[@marilynroxas9614]

tdf 2020 still on the mind on roglic so i ask you same question? what your answee

[@timliscum2861]

Im sure Pog dont trust Roglic any... 2 individuals on the same team

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

From the interview I watched they certainly didn’t seem to be best buddies. 😬🦋👍

[@ogradar85]

@@ChrisHornerCycling Well, you saw wrong, because in the part where they talked to slovenian press they joked, seemed very relaxed and comfortable with each other.

[@cypriano8763]

he has to ride for tadej. iven if he doesnt, pogi probly dont need em anyhow

[@tmelendezmia]

Chris, he didn't stab Sepp in La Vuelta🙄, thats like saying he stabbed Ben O'Connor this year! Visma went into that Vuelta with aging Primoz as their #1 rider, looking to win his 4th Vuelta. This year it would have been a record 5th!! Just like Ben OConnor went on a breakaway this year, and won stage 6 by six minutes plus, Sepp did the same thing last year. That case was more clear because Visma sent Kuss to put pressure on Remco and as a satellite for Primoz or Jonas; not to win! The circumstances were the circumstances. If it took Visma a few days to cave under pressure and align ranks, that wasn't Primoz fault. He went there to try to win a 4th. And if the team would have not stopped him, he would have had a record 5th Vuelta at 33/34 years of age this year. Did Lemond stab Hinault?? Did Froome stab Wiggins? Did Thomas stab Froome? Did Bernal Stab Thomas?

[@tampafoxx]

assuming jumbo did not reshuffle leadership (after kuss was in red) jonas would have won the vuelta, not primoz.

[@shema02]

@@tampafoxx we don't know that as Primoz did not follow him because they were on the same team. maybe he would have followed or he would have been dropped, but we don't know so we will never know

[@TD05SSLegacy]

Well not literally 😂

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

We all know Hinault stabbed Lemond. Not the other way around. 🤪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🔪🇺🇸🩸🔪🦋😬

[@dotherightthingbro]

Oh my, attacking your team mate must be much worse than I first thought. Chris keeps bringing up the Sepp incident in Spain 23. Remember 2 guys attacked him though and the other one seems to have been forgotten about. In hindsight it looks like Roglic had made his mind up to leave Visma by that point and he was just being impetuous. Why would Pogi race in the worlds and not Spain to complete the real trio in the same season? He looked untouchable in Italy and France. My take is Tadej made a deal with Primoz so he missed Spain, which gifts it to Rogla, and gets help in Sunday’s race from him.

[@geoffreymccann2841]

All things even I'd be very surprised if Roglic beats Pogacar unless as you said Roglic is in the break but then I'd be surprised if Roglic can get in the break without Pogacar and would the other teams allow the likes of Roglic to get into a break?? It was interesting Michael Matthews comments after the teams tt that riding the course at full pace gave you a different perspective of the course .

[@tilmania361]

honestly it would be so stupid if roglic and tratnik would sabotage pogacar. i dont think its going to happen really. we have seen remco and wout working together i dont think pogacar and roglic cant do that. and remco and wout also dont seem particularly close, even less so than pog and roglic i would say. speaking of remco hes such a big threat and has a good team, if the slovenians dont cooperate i am not sure if even pog can beat him.

[@kevinbyrd6482]

they should all ride for them selves

[@stevenmeyer9674]

Then neither of them likely wins

[@mracer8]

That is call tt! Cycling is a team sport!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

We may just see that. And why that’s a bad idea. 😬🦋🤔🔥💥🔪

[@johnmoreels610]

Your obviously not a golfer.

[@sgroadie6367]

It amazes me that a small country of 2.5 million people can produce so many top level cyclists.

[@saturnative]

Not only cyclists... All kind of athletes.

[@colinjockgraham]

Nope, all unvaxxed

[@wazzup105]

In Roglic' book Roglic is No1. He might help Pogacar until it goes against his own interest or it should be clear he doesn't have the legs for going for a win. Ah well.. could make it entertaining. :-)

[@ephraimforex4806]

Pog can leave this for primoz . Look at 2025 Rwanda 2026canada and the super worlds in france alps these are all good parcours for tadej

[@sonckad]

Why should he give away anything? He is the only one that people expect to "gift" wins.

[@BenjaminUbayyed-po9tc]

other rides have wom the words, the tour and the giro as the triple crown

[@wimve4719]

I know one thing, Wout will be sorely missed in Team Belgium. Aside from that? It can go in all directions. To be honest? I think that an 'outsider' will win this WC because all of the favourites will be tagged all along the way. My choice ... Victor Campenaerts, that would be something 🙂And yeah, I'm from Belgium 😀All joking apart (well not completely), Matthieu van der Poel is still a very strong contender TBH. Anyway, I think it's going to be a stellar and unpredictible race and may the best man win!

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

Yes he will be 🥲🦋

[@user-cx2bk6pm2f]

Fascinating point about Team Slovenia's loyalties... one super-domestique loyal to Tadej and the other to Primoz.

[@ChrisHornerCycling]

🦋👊

[@curfi]

Lol...what are you talking about?😅

[@musclelessfitness2045]

Roglic was the enemy when he rode for Visma, so maybe Pogi still has some hate towards him.