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@TomHerriman Жыл бұрын
Now that I have the holes in my ceiling repaired, I'm going to try this process again. This time, outdoors.
@Chillin-fpv Жыл бұрын
😂
@alfindo278 ай бұрын
😅😅😅😅
@TotallyNotNuclear Жыл бұрын
You are a true gift to the fpv community. Thank you for all of you work! 🙏
@boo7948 Жыл бұрын
yes
@MrCoffis Жыл бұрын
Facts.
@MaxwellDoesStuff11 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot for chris, it's super useful for me. One thing I found more useful in the P:D balance section 20:58 was using a binary search type approach. First do 3 runs at 0.3, 1.0, and 2.0 Then look at the logs and see if 1.0 is under or over damped. Assuming 2.0 is under damped and 0.3 is under damped then whichever side 1.0 is on, lets you eliminate anything above of below it. For me, 0.3 was massively over damped, 1.0 was somewhat over damped and 2.0 was massively under damped. Because of that you know anything less than 1 will also be under damped, and you don't have to test anything below that. From there you try 1.5 and see how that performs. For me 1.5 was actually about perfect, but for others it could be over or under damped and then you just repeat the process until you can get a really nice tune in what I'd guess to be about 4-6 flights. This would be a bit more of a scientific route to it too instead of just picking some numbers at random.
@ViisionzFPV10 ай бұрын
This is my first time tuning my quads.. Chris says in the video that your D slider should be 2.5 times your pi slider. If my PI slider is 1.6 do I have to times it by 2.5?? At 1.6 PI and 1.0 D slider it looks almost identical to Chris’s final tune. I’ve watched all 4 of his tuning videos and Joshua Broadwell but I just feel like I’m doing something wrong. Any insight, pleassseeeee
@SteveCEvans Жыл бұрын
Push left stick to the right and hold briefly to quickly get to the save/exit menu. You don’t need to use back repeatedly.
@ChrisRosser Жыл бұрын
Good to know, thanks!
@-exeCy- Жыл бұрын
Or just Left stick to the Left to go back.
@gregor.potrebujes Жыл бұрын
I find using LUA script (Betaflight setup) on the radio easier. No goggles needed.
@BradB111 Жыл бұрын
I have just gone through this process and I can not express how perfect the quad feels to fly, it's incredible. Thank you so much for taking the time to put together this guide.
@BRadFPV Жыл бұрын
HUGE TIP... @ 20:05 move left stick right to get to save & exit menu FAST!!!
@istim Жыл бұрын
came here to say the same thing, made my day when I accidentally happened across this shortcut
@ryanblake3414 Жыл бұрын
Chris I have to say It has taken me over a week to follow all of this. However I now have the perfect step response tuned quad thank you for this info.
@aphinion Жыл бұрын
Ever since your 4.3 guide my quads are behaving absolutely amazingly. I see you also incorporated a lot of the tips from Brian White for this 4.4 version. It's really helpful to get basically the a single strategy merged from you two... and a simple step-by-step guide. This saves an incredible amount of time and confusion and makes tuning a standard part of the build process. Love it!
@ethan0145 Жыл бұрын
Holy crap, dude. I'm following this video with an ultra clean built AOS 3.5 and I keep turning these filters down and seeing nothing. This build is running an F745 too so it doesn't even matter at this point, its just insane to see gyro logs this clean. Amazing work, as always, and thank you so much for everything you've contributed to this hobby
@ChrisRosser Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks for the message and your support.
@taylorharris1982 Жыл бұрын
This is a fantastic tuning video for 4.4. This is incredibly easy to follow and I'm grateful that you've provided all of this information to all of us. Thank you!
@spfpv6753 Жыл бұрын
Bogwon, the master of all things relevant! You are my new favorite inspiration in flight. I have been flying the AOS frame for about a year now. It have improved my confidence and skills to a level I have only dreamed about. Now that I'm flying "like" my influencer on KZbin. Because of your knowledge and passion, we all benefit from it. That is a type of master Bogwon. I thank you, I believe we all feel this way.
@crash_lander Жыл бұрын
I tried this technique of tuning with BF 4.3 for my custom geprc Smart35 frame with 20x20 F722 40A mamba stack (MPU6000) analog vtx and 1404 3750 motors on 4s. I failed miserably. After wrecking my mind and sleepless night I finally gave up and thankfully found your 3.5 inch AOS preset. Applied it and tweaked the D term and I term a step up and perfectly matched my quad. I’m so happy to be able to fly it so well now. Thanks a lot.
@MurdersFPV Жыл бұрын
I have learned so much from you and Mark since I started really diving into tuning and your method is consistent and extremely accurate. I love that you added the detail of Dynamic Idle which many people don't utilize. You covered it all in one 30 min video while providing clear explanations of why you take the steps you do. Brilliant, Chris.
@olegvlasov2744 Жыл бұрын
Who is Mark? I'd love to learn more about Betaflight
@MurdersFPV Жыл бұрын
@@olegvlasov2744 youtube.com/@uavtech
@olegvlasov2744 Жыл бұрын
@@MurdersFPV thank you
@MrSmithFPV Жыл бұрын
Still like your tuning guides a lot! Much better than these theoretical tuts from Mark and Chris. You are a real pilot that makes the difference. These 2 guys are not flying that much...
@cccagley5276 Жыл бұрын
At 3:33 when you turned on the rpm filter, you left the motor poles at 14. S/b 12 on that quad.
@notice_fpv8 ай бұрын
The suspension analogy!! So perfect.
@kaptkrunchfpv Жыл бұрын
YES! If Chris Rosser is going to teach me how to tune it, I better order one before they are out of stock!
@PIDtoolbox Жыл бұрын
Great vid Chris! Nice step by step. Very similar to the PTB approach. BF 4.4 is really something! One small correction 6:37, FF is currently still active in Angle mode in BF4.4. Not sure what the intention is for future versions, but FF definitely should be turned off (angle or acro) if using the PTB step response tool.
@xxxplode5999 Жыл бұрын
LOVE YOUR WORK BRIAN!!!
@PIDtoolbox Жыл бұрын
@@xxxplode5999 thanks man
@fr3style Жыл бұрын
Brian is the real hero here! If not for him this video would never exist! Cris should have plugged brian more
@Tonynux Жыл бұрын
@@fr3style I agree!
@catfpv5524 Жыл бұрын
Where would we be without pidtoolbox and the basement tuning method? Great seeing all these videos showcasing your software and how it makes it so much easier to understand tuning.
@im_gldn Жыл бұрын
I tested this method and was easily able to get great results on all my quads within a matter of minutes. Great tip about changing the settings in the osd. Thank you sir.
@kotsios1234567 Жыл бұрын
Appreciated.
@ritchelgeist562610 ай бұрын
I finally fully understand, and am fully effective at Black Box tuning. PID Tool Box was really the icing on the cake, and you couldn't have given a better tutorial on how to use those tools. Brilliant work Chris, thank you very much!
@ZentaRobotics Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! A tip using the OSD menu: simply move the left stick left to move back in the menu. Much faster and easier than scrolling to the back option!
@adamkalicak Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome video Chris. My 2.3" quad flies better than ever now, and despite ending up on higher D-Terms than I'd have ever tried previously, my motors are still cold and pidtoolbox shows everything is tracking great. 👍
@FreshPanda97 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! But why you don’t show us the process at 22:47 or even little earlier. How to compare all these slider multiplier changes in one diagram? I don’t know how to compare all my logs together to see it like that 😢
@jonasr.3083 Жыл бұрын
me too
@hasqall Жыл бұрын
In the previous videos you ised to turn off the dynamic D but is this 1 you didnt ? Any reason for it ?
@stevejakab Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, got through it all now. What was particularly useful was being able to tune my micro inside in angle mode, with only feedforward being tuned in Acro mode outside. Great video, and many thanks.
@rwfpv1641 Жыл бұрын
I never truly understood PD until you explained it as car suspension. Amazing!
@davehrcfpv2 ай бұрын
@20:30 How do you create the "Step Response Function" graphs? More "how To" detail need for those of who have never seen BF BB Explorer before
@AK47_42 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, just looked up the specs of the 1002-motor the Sub250 Nanofly20 quad uses and it states that it has a 9N12P configuration instead of the more "standard" 12N14P configuration that the larger motors have. Not sure if this really matters for the tuning process when enabling "Bidirectional DShot" and leaving the motor poles at the Betaflight standard 14 poles as seen in a short video blip instead of 12. Would be interested what potential issues you could see if any. And on a sidenote: I love your scientific method of procedure "consisting in systematic observation, measurement, and experiment, and the formulation, testing, and modification of hypotheses.". I hope that someday this will make it into some form of Betaflight Auto-Tune capability for the general public. 🙏
@skree_fpv436 Жыл бұрын
You'll want to change the motor poles to 12 on that 1002 motor if you are enabling bidirectional dshot. The correct magnet count is required in order for the correct RPM to be determined. If the magnet count is wrong then the RPM will not be calculated correctly and the RPM filter won't work to the best of it's ability, which may in turn cause hot motors.
@freeflyer Жыл бұрын
This is not just a video, a lecture actually. Thanks for your high quality effort 😎
@freewayrcl Жыл бұрын
Finally someone explained tuning and filtering where I can almost understand it! Thank you!
@Brian-S Жыл бұрын
The car suspension analogy was pretty damn spot on man such a good way to explain it in laymen's terms
@alurpal888 Жыл бұрын
You mentioned using the throttle pump log to optimize filters but didn’t actually do that in the video. You just visualized the log and then used the values from your chart. Did I miss something?
@layer1259 Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this nice and compact guide. I really liked that you have chosen the small 2 inch for the demonstration because I totally agree with your reasons for that.
@bobbycfpv8578 Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@vitorxavier8257 Жыл бұрын
you can also use the yaw left to go back on the menu
@stanbekker Жыл бұрын
Thank you Chris, new to FPV, I want to dive deep into tuning and you gave me all the education I need to get started!
@b.g.256316 күн бұрын
Danke!
@PaulSokolov Жыл бұрын
one more thing - 22:06 - our D slider is always 2.5 times as much as our PI slider. Please explain more about this.
@PaulSokolov Жыл бұрын
if my perfect tune PD balance position PI slider 0.8 and D slider 1.0 - it's not correct for rising Master slider ?
@PaulSokolov Жыл бұрын
Solved/ The question is closed
@filipefrango1671 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSokolov how? ;)
@PaulSokolov Жыл бұрын
@@filipefrango1671 Chris is talking about his particular build - what he means is that this particular setup should always have this ratio. In your case, it may be another greatness. The point is not to change this ratio while tuning. (I also got confused and thought there was some kind of 2,5 rule, but it's just for example)
@filipefrango1671 Жыл бұрын
@@PaulSokolov yes yes.. i got that 1 day after.. after watching several times and other videos, hhehe thanks :)
@1337plans6 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris!!!! Yes, can you please make more tiny whoop 65mm 75mm content.. and also 7" tuning content?? Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ridewithandrei Жыл бұрын
from 4 videos on bf tuning (2 hours ) to 20 mins, top content
@KELLER_FPV Жыл бұрын
Awesome video. You are My Rosetta Stone of PID Tuning
@OCD_FPV Жыл бұрын
Absolutely great analogy on the Car Suspension.
@rob-bomb366 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be possible to use the function that the new 3D printers have called "input shaping" to analyze the resonances of the motors even on drones?
@rmh775311 ай бұрын
Chris, Hi! I see that code you have written for Angle Mode has been incorporated into BF 4.5 and includes FeedForward. Does this mean that the above tuning method using Angle mode is not valid for BF 4.5? BTW thank you for bringing the Art of Science to this sport!!🙏
@propabilityfpv Жыл бұрын
I'm in the process of retuning of my quads right now, including one AOS frame! Thank you for all you have done on this topic! Great content 🙂
@J2_P Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! On your previous tuning video you advise to set pidsum_limit = 1000. Is it always applicable or we should keep betaflight default value on 4.4? Thanks in advance.
@olegvlasov2744 Жыл бұрын
I think the advise is still the same. He didn't mention tuning filters for gyro itself, for example BMI270 This video is quite short comparing to Betaflight 4.3
@billmcdonald4335 Жыл бұрын
I've been flying BF 4.4 for a few weeks now, and am pretty happy with my numbers, but I of course had to put your expertise to the test. Here's my feedback: I did not know that feed forward was not used in Angle mode. I disengaged it, and found no difference. I will fly without it from now on in Angle mode, as there's no need. I have no black box, but found your filter recommendations to be much better than what I was using. The motors sound smoother, and they finish a flight very cool to the touch. I'm going to experiment with my P-D balance some more. I may find something more in the process. Never tried it without I-gain, so I expect I will learn. My minimum RPM is much higher by preference. It suits the way I use my throttle in Angle mode. 130 would be a tad high for most 2-inch builds, but that's my number. On the whole, this is top-notch information; a typical Rosser Joint. Thanks for sharing, Chris!
@yaronskp Жыл бұрын
Chris, thank you so much. You brought tuning videos to perfection. This the pinnacle of the series
@jeffparisse4202 Жыл бұрын
I’m a bit confused about how to act upon the throttle / frequency data gathered in the first step (say 11:25 in the video). In the example plot, the throttle related vibrations fall between 250-600Hz. How does one act upon that data? Where does one indicate to Betaflight where those values lie? I understand the part about Dterm filtering. Do the throttle frequencies get entered under RPM filter? Sorry to be confused, I watched the video twice with notes but can’t seem to grasp this final point. Thanks.
@MattBalder Жыл бұрын
I also feel the same and did not grasp how to use this data in order to influence setting changes. I'm thinking I may need to watch his 4.3 video on filter tuning to fill in some blanks.
@LogiFPV10 ай бұрын
The crazy thing to me is how you could *feel* where it was going to end up on the graph on my 3.5" I just built. I'm going to try it on my toothpicks that don't have blackbox logging on them. Thank you for this!
@AntonEvdakov Жыл бұрын
You recommend turning off Gyro Low Pass 1 and 2 when setting up. and other settings in the filters. After tuning , do I need to return everything back or not ?
@notice_fpv8 ай бұрын
This is an amazing lecture on quad tuning!
@cedric4893 Жыл бұрын
When you do Step Response analysis, Feedforward and Dmax should not be enabled (about PD, Master and I-Term optimization). Otherwise, this can make troubles into results and you could have issues to interprete results.
@Mqzfpv Жыл бұрын
yea i wondered why he doesnt drop dmax to 0..
@alearro1010 Жыл бұрын
Incredible and very useful information! Chris, I have a question regarding the proportion between P:D (22:23). If your PI slider is 0.4 your D slider will be 1 (x2.5), what happens when your PI slider is 1 or 1.25 or higher? D slider can't go higher than 2? Thanks for your help
@Joenskie Жыл бұрын
Was questioning exact same thing. Also - he’s talking about p/d balance using PI-slider and D-slider. Whats up with the ‘I’ in ‘PI-slider’?
@planterhoma Жыл бұрын
have you figured this out? I am looking for answer too.
@CorkscrewFPV Жыл бұрын
If your best P&I log is set to 1, how do you set D at 2.5x? I guess I missed something!
@AliasFPV Жыл бұрын
Hey there, at 4:29 you downloaded a preset for ExpressLRS250Hz, what do I need to do if I am using a DJI FPV REMOTE 2 and not using ExpressLRS signal ? Do I need to download something else or skip this step ?
@kk29101 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, great sharing for PID tune, I follow your step, and set I-Gain to zero and tune P&I Gain. however, when start from 0.4, arm and yaw drift right quite fast. all I need to do it turn the I-Gain back to 1. yaw drift gone and able to arm and take off. why set I-gain to zero and tune like you not work for me?
@bcc1955 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic game changer video. Gives a reasonable intuitive understanding of tune parameters, along with specific recommended solutions. Thank you Chris.
@PhysicsOperator Жыл бұрын
After your last tuning guides super excited for this
@man0mule Жыл бұрын
double check your frame and arm screws first! was trying to troubleshoot some occilations yesterday and turned out my arm screws had come loose on all 4 arms
@BentRim10 ай бұрын
I'm finally to the point where I am capable enough to need this guide. Great video. I'm curious about applying the betaflight presets for the radio link. Is that a necessary step for something that is already built and flying, that we just wish to tighten up a bit?
@jrodrc4137 Жыл бұрын
thanks man, I dont know why byt your videos seem to make more sense than Mark Spats to me. One day I may actually be able to tune because of you. Setting up Black box explorer and pid tool box right now.
@williamb33238 ай бұрын
Thank you Chris, I appreciate the hard work you put in to this and the videoing. I don't think people think enough about the work that entails. I subed, and liked. I have just built a 5" freestyle quad and tried UAV's preset tune. It almost ran away. Went back to betaflight stock 5" preset, and I have a lot of oscillation after a roll. Time to figure it out.
@genericgarbagegamingchanne9466 Жыл бұрын
if you press right with the right stick in osd you go strait to save and exit/reboot (for making new logs)
@rickMCnasty Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris, this is pure gold! Now to watch on repeat & & take notes !
@cloudwind23 Жыл бұрын
How do you see those graphs at 20:35? I don't know where to click in betaflight blackbox
@h2o40fpv9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I have to watch it again because I have visit and I did not heard much of it.
@sgtechiedad Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful and really appreciate to have you in the FPV community Chris ! I literally copied your whole PID tuning to my BETAFPV 75 pro HD, Rotor Riot Vision 40 and it all works brilliantly and I just need to do minor adjustments to them. May I know if you have flew the BETAFPV Pavo 20 with DjI O3 and if you have the PID tuning to share with me to try out ? 🙏🏼 very much appreciated!
@joshuahenriques3224 Жыл бұрын
This is a good guide - but you should credit Brian White most of this guide other then the filters section and the dynamic idle is based off methodologies Brian developed and tools he created, there is not any acknowledgment of that which is a shame. With regards to some things in the guide you didn't touch on Iterm Relax which is critical for a lot of drones also I term at 1.0 will cause massive overshoot on any drone over 8 inch - it needs to be decreased as the drone size increases! FF is dependant on I term not just D! FF is not disabled by angle mode that is incorrect
@flyingwithtofu Жыл бұрын
Could you do a tutorial on using neural networks in predicting the optimal PID values?
@maloriezastrow971 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris. Thanks for the video. I'm a bit confused. We looked at the noise graph, but what are we using it for? Right after, you show recommended setting for the filters, but don't ever show how this relates to that graph or how the graph helps us determine out ideal setting.
@me-vo3di Жыл бұрын
I once spent time in adjustments tab. Used two 3 pos switches and was able to move PIDs up and down while flying. Was fun. Did not know what I was doing though.
@stephantertel Жыл бұрын
I think for some quads I need to find the PD balance and the master multiplier separately for roll and pitch axes and merge the PID values directly without the sliders. With the latest BF the flight behaviour has become much better. Chris Rossers step by step tuning method is working for me. Thank you. For dynamic idle the values are higher compared to the last recommendations. Is this just more conservative, or due to changes in BF?
@stephantertel Жыл бұрын
Just noticed that there are dedicated pitch sliders for that
@MitchellKinard10 ай бұрын
In the car analogy, does the P term make the spring softer or harder?
@moshecohen4029 Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, Thanks for the video. I'm a bit confused. At 14:20 you turn the profile dependent filter setting off completely, then you proceed to set a D term Lowpass. Won't it be off anyway?
@marinehm6 ай бұрын
Can you do a video that shows how you got the graph at 21:12?
@fenix.357 Жыл бұрын
Many thanks Chris, I did not find a preset for a T100 class 3S quad and will now try to use this instruction as a guideline. If only there were a preset for AFHDS FlySky.
@pukki34 Жыл бұрын
22:15 Quick question: If my P&I slider is correct at 0.9 should I set my D slider to 2,25?
@ChrisRosser Жыл бұрын
Assuming: P&I at 0.9, D at 1.0, Master at 2.0 an you want to further increase master. Go to: P&I at 1.35, D at 1.5, Master at 1.35 and that whould give nearly the same numbers and you can continue to increase master from there.
@PaulSokolov Жыл бұрын
@@ChrisRosser Also didn't understand this - " D slider is always 2.5 times as much as our PI slider " How to do this? By P\D numbers ? or by Slider numbers ? Pleaase explain with some example.
@bamatube8200 Жыл бұрын
Can Betaflight 4.5 have a prop size selection that configures filters, etc. accordingly?
@christhorney Жыл бұрын
at 24:43 your showing a slide made up of different logs on the pitch and roll axis and presenting it as if its the same tune? it shows the values to the right of the graph and its a different log up on roll than on pitch, and you didnt really show how you got there or dmax, i find when i have dmin on the quad feels drunk i have it basically off on my 3.5
@maeluis6214 Жыл бұрын
Love the college format presentation, very clear. 👍
@jpgaming6885 Жыл бұрын
Love it! Any update on the soft mounted AOS 5 O3 frame? Its the last piece in my build cant wait
@fr3style Жыл бұрын
Any well tuned good frame never needs soft mount! We fly all our frames hardmount everythibg never had a issue and all out clients live the results!
@skree_fpv436 Жыл бұрын
@@fr3style I believe he's talking about a soft mount for the DJI 03 camera. The camera is really sensitive to vibrations.
@tg3025 Жыл бұрын
How do you setup the graphs? I cant find gyro scaled [roll]/[pitch]/[yaw] anywhere.
@z2kk Жыл бұрын
I had this same confusion (couldn't find it). Gyro scaled is only logged if you configure black box in Betaflight. Set Blackbox debug mode to GYRO_SCALED. See 3:40 in the video.
@tg3025 Жыл бұрын
@@z2kk Perfect! Thanks for pointing that out.
@davehrcfpv2 ай бұрын
Thanks for an informative tuning video Chris. But what about older builds that have DShot600 but NOT bi-directional? I have Armattan Badger circa 2018 with individual 30A ESCs. The ESC firmware is BLHeli32 C-H-25 16.7 latest update. BF4.4.3
@jojomajo Жыл бұрын
Best video about perfect pid tune, ty!
@Cherobfpv-20248 ай бұрын
Any help.. having hard time tuning mg cl35v2. 27:10
@Adamski_Adventures Жыл бұрын
is there info on how to set up the graphs, what options/graphs to select?
@adamdude Жыл бұрын
Is there anything you'd do differently in these steps (filtering, PID gains etc) if you were tuning a 3-5" quad instead?
@Barks_Bridge_Dog_Training Жыл бұрын
Same technique for any quad really (1:30 timestamp) Obviously do not throttle pump indoors though 😂
@stevejakab Жыл бұрын
And how do you get the whole range of graphs at 20:33?
@ChrisRosser Жыл бұрын
To get lots of lines you have to take many logs at different settings.
@marinehm7 ай бұрын
May seem lame but, can you do a video just setting up pid toolbox. What settings to select and why. What you’re comparing to and why? How to get the graph you’re showing slowly, showing each data field how it compares to the stick commands. This is my first time hearing of PID toolbox. So obviously first time using it. Thanks. I hope that’s not too basic. All eyes are on you and Bardwell to educate us.
@skinnyguy3184 Жыл бұрын
Hay chris when using pidtoolbox do i need to change anything in the blackbox recording in betaflight or just leave it at 2 and gyro_scaled? Thanks mate
@christhorney Жыл бұрын
you should do a tuning guide on the crux35 frame, i have been using it for a few months and either its wobbly or the motors get hot, i think the frame is just noisey but its SUPER difficult to get a good tune, espesually if you build it with a heavy vtx and a stack instead of an AIO, compared to the stock BNF from happymodel i upgraded my motors to xing2 3800kw 1404 and used a mamba f405 mk4 mini stack, and rush ulitmate plus vtx, then throw on a heavy battery so she comes in right around the 235g mark with an 850mah 4s, and i just cant get a tune im happy with, in stock BNF form it flew really alot better than my "upgraded" version and i have spend literally days tuning it. A couple of weeks ago i ordered an AOS35 to replace it not only for the frame noise performance, but also the ability to replace a single arm when i break one instead of an entire bottom plate thats a complete PITA and cost me $35 every time for a complete frame instead of $8 for a single arm lol,
@JohnCuppi Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree with this. The crux35 is a really difficult quad to tune with heavier electronics, too, my DJI vista crux35 flies pretty well but it's not as nice as my HDzero or analog version, both of which fly way better. The frame can end up bent. There's a replacement frame I'm taking a look at now called The Great Discus which I think might be easier to work with, and a bit stronger.
@christhorney Жыл бұрын
@@JohnCuppi i ordered an aos35 from cnc drones, it has 4mm arms and they are induvidually replaceable, the frame is overall 20g heavier than the crux but not having to swap out an entire bottom plate for the cost of an entire frame kit every single time i break an arm (3 broken arms in 3 months each time losing out on flying until the replacement arrives) now i will have spare arms and can easily swap one out in the feild with just one motor off and 2 arm screws, its probably worth the extra weight tbh the crux has plenty of power i have xing2 1404 3800kv on it now after the stock motors kept coming apart, then one died so i needed to replace them i couldnt just keep gluing it together, so overall its a bit heavier than stock already then the new frame, it will go from a minimum wet weight stock of about 200g, right now its about 220g, and with the new frame im expecting 240-250g all up weight with my 850mah 4s. and i did some tests where i strappedmore weight to it and it has the power, just the crux frame cant handle it and get a good tune. i will try to remember to let you know how the aos35 works out for me its just shipped from canada to australia so a couple of weeks away yet
@gaetanocrocilla71511 ай бұрын
Hi @ChrisRosser great and very useful guide. Question: Can I follow your steps having the "Throttle MID", "Throttle EXP", "Throttle Limit" and "Throttle Limit%" not in default? I have changed them to fly my flywoo explorer Iong range indoor. I hope you can answer. Thanks Chris!
@gaetanocrocilla71511 ай бұрын
Also, which base rates are best to perform the tuning?
@pitudefe Жыл бұрын
Hello Chris! One question. For the PD balance, it is the same to move the damping slider (D gain) or to move the Tracking slider(PI Gain)? Thank You!
@captaindronieversefpv3 ай бұрын
Hi Chris , i want to ask about " Feedforward - Transitions " what is transition does on the quad ?
@pianolover007 Жыл бұрын
Nice demo. But I wonder how you could set full throttle inside the home without hitting the ceiling 😅
@MrPashee Жыл бұрын
Hi Chris! Amazing video as always! Can you say, which parameter I need to adjust if the wind shakes my 3 inch toothpick too much?
@timon72489 Жыл бұрын
Master multiplier as high as possible. This will make it react faster to the wind. Higher I gains might also work
@devanklausegger65488 ай бұрын
Amazing video the only improvement would've been demo flights of the pre and post tune but excellent information please make more thank you
@dweight1990 Жыл бұрын
It is worth to note that if you are using a FC with an ICM42688P you SHOULD NOT disable all gyro filters - at least one lowpass should be enabled! In my case Gyro Lowpass 2 set to 600Hz PT2 hits a sweet spot, but start with as low as 300Hz and go up from there.
@J2_P Жыл бұрын
There is also something about 4k PID loop. If I remember correctly betaflight documentation advise to keep a low pass 2 active in case of a 4k pid loop.
@filipefrango1671 Жыл бұрын
@@J2_P ye ive read it to
@filipefrango1671 Жыл бұрын
@@J2_P "Never disable Gyro Lowpass 2 filter for 2K/4K PID loop frequency due to anti-aliasing reasons"
@MattBalder Жыл бұрын
I'm using a Tmotor F722 FC running the MPU6000 gyro and have my PID loop frequency set to 8k and ESC protocol set to DSHOT 600. Do you think the filter settings Chris recommends are good for this FC at these configurations?
@dweight1990 Жыл бұрын
@@MattBalder It should work fine with your gyro :)