Christianity Cannot Exist Without the Eucharist

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Shameless Popery Podcast

Shameless Popery Podcast

Жыл бұрын

In anticipation for the the release of my NEW BOOK ON THE EUCHARIST, this week I'm asking: what is the connection between the Eucharist and the New Covenant, and why do we need the Eucharist to make sense of Christianity?
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@blakewolford8903
@blakewolford8903 Жыл бұрын
Went from Southern Baptist to Reformed Anglican to Presbyterian and finally to Catholic, received my first communion a few days ago! Glory to God!!
@damnedmadman
@damnedmadman Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a ride 😁😇
@JosephHeschmeyer
@JosephHeschmeyer Жыл бұрын
Welcome home!
@matthewiovino6566
@matthewiovino6566 11 ай бұрын
glory to Jesus Christ
@joshuas1834
@joshuas1834 11 ай бұрын
Just curious, why did you go from Anglican to Presbyterian?
@blakewolford8903
@blakewolford8903 11 ай бұрын
@@joshuas1834 I went Anglican because I was both Calvinistic and continuationist with regard to spiritual gifts, so since almost all Presbyterians are cessationist I split the different and went Anglican. I wasn’t sure what to make of apostolic succession or the Anglican view of the sacraments, but when I read Calvin’s institutes and the way he tried to harmonize the efficacy of the sacraments with the perseverance of the saints, I thought it was clever and went that way for a while
@TrixRN
@TrixRN Жыл бұрын
The Eucharist is one of the main doctrines that converted me from Southern Baptist 🙏❤️
@Sheilamarie2
@Sheilamarie2 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, the Protestants I am friends with/encounter do not believe it to be true...
@paulcapaccio9905
@paulcapaccio9905 Жыл бұрын
Welcome home. As fir your Protestant friends who refuse to believe, there is no salvation for them unless they repent
@mikelopez8564
@mikelopez8564 Жыл бұрын
@@paulcapaccio9905true; true for all of us, as well.
@andycopeland7051
@andycopeland7051 Жыл бұрын
My house and I just came home as well from the same protestant denomination. God bless you. Please pray for us, brothers and sisters
@paulcapaccio9905
@paulcapaccio9905 Жыл бұрын
@@andycopeland7051 we will pray.
@southpawhammer8644
@southpawhammer8644 Жыл бұрын
The eucharist is what brought me to the church. I grew up early life Catholic, and never once heard the eucharist was the real presence of Jesus!
@mikelopez8564
@mikelopez8564 Жыл бұрын
And I thought MY catechism was lacking. Cringeworthy.
@lorenzobianchini4415
@lorenzobianchini4415 10 ай бұрын
I find that incredible.When you go to Mass and Holy Communion you receive the Eucharist with the words " The Body of Christ:" to which on receiving you reply "Amen!" Are you saying you took communion unaware what you were doing???Seriously!!!!
@lorenzobianchini4415
@lorenzobianchini4415 10 ай бұрын
If you took Communion without recognising the body of our Lord you are eating and drinking your condemnation
@stephen4598
@stephen4598 2 ай бұрын
​@lorenzobianchini4415 not if done in ignorance. The true presence should be part of every Catholic's formation & obviously reviewed in preparation for 1st communion, but I'm sure it can be missed by stream lined programs, lax teachers, and the in charge being poorly formed themselves. There can be no mortal sin with a honest lack of understanding.
@BOOTsTOOB
@BOOTsTOOB 5 ай бұрын
"The New Testament (Covenant) was a Sacrament before it was a document, according to the document." Scott Hahn
@JoshN91
@JoshN91 Жыл бұрын
Very excited about this one! Thanks Joe! One of the things that shattered my Non-Denom Protestantism was seeing what the early Christians believed about the Eucharist. I didn’t see my old understanding of the Eucharist until much much later in church history.
@Zaradeptus
@Zaradeptus 11 ай бұрын
God bless you. You should share your story sometime.
@joshuas1834
@joshuas1834 11 ай бұрын
While I'm still Protestant, I did have to leave my Baptist church for a church that had a sacramental/real presence/ covenantal view of communion when I, like you, came across the early church's view of the eucharist.
@bernardoemerick5362
@bernardoemerick5362 11 ай бұрын
@@joshuas1834 The thing is: it's not a sacramental view that matters, but the reality of it. Inasmuch they might have a sacramental view, the true sacrament is missing. So, if you adore the "Eucharist" of a protestant "church", you are in fact commiting idolatry, because there is no Jesus there. Protestant "churches" don't have real priests, so they cannot consacrate the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ. It's important to understand this, because is not "their view" that makes the sacrament real, but the virtue of Christ, that is conferred by the sacrament of the Holy Order, which is totally absent in protestantism.
@joshuas1834
@joshuas1834 11 ай бұрын
@@bernardoemerick5362 I think Eucharistic adoration is idolatry no matter where you do it. And I disagree with the assertions that you made but the KZbin comments section is definitely not the place to have that discussion. You can find hundreds of hours of people discussing that kind of stuff and it hasn't been settled yet so I don't think it'll be settled here.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 10 ай бұрын
​@joshuas1834 So you know better than every Christian in the world before 1517? Well alrighty then.
@heavenknowsheavenknows3747
@heavenknowsheavenknows3747 Жыл бұрын
Receiving The Body and Blood of Christ is the ultimate form of receiving Grace. There is no form of grace higher. I live for the perfection of Mass.
@adelbertleblanc1846
@adelbertleblanc1846 5 ай бұрын
Thank you for your work ! JESUS is indeed very clear about the EUCHARIST ! Gospel of JOHN, chapter 5, chapter 6 and chapter 13
@kennethprather9633
@kennethprather9633 8 күн бұрын
Yes, we all need Jesus in us and to be saved. Jesus said the bread and wine contain his Spirit. Praise God.
@megtim
@megtim Жыл бұрын
Congratulations on the new book Joe! Can’t wait to read it!
@peterzinya1
@peterzinya1 5 ай бұрын
congrats for writing the 10 billionth catholic book. catholics hate the bible.
@gijoe508
@gijoe508 Жыл бұрын
Preach it brother! Glory to Jesus Christ!
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
Glory forever!!!☦️☦️☦️❤❤
@Stygard
@Stygard Жыл бұрын
My journey to the Catholic Church came through my understanding of covenant and my "reformed" theological training at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.
@mikelopez8564
@mikelopez8564 Жыл бұрын
Apparently Scott Hahn has doppelgängers. 😂
@Vaughndaleoulaw
@Vaughndaleoulaw Жыл бұрын
Same! Except my training was at RTS.
@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964
@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964 Жыл бұрын
Interesting that God is calling all humanity to His Church but it's us humanity that make other humanity to go away by our own disagreements on these things but that is not the Will of God for us.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic 8 ай бұрын
God bless you Stygard and Mike. I’m a revert from evangelicalism myself. Praise Jesus Christ.
@GMAAndy333
@GMAAndy333 6 ай бұрын
Believing that the Eucharist is really Jesus is a gift of Faith. In the light of Jesus speaking in parables, He reveals himself to those who are humble and seek Him with eyes of Faith. We may see but not understand or believe and thereby we must persist to find the Truth. The warning I see is found in John chapter 6. When is literally the only time in scripture that Jesus allows His disciples walk away? After this many of his disciples drew back and no longer went about with him. John 6:66.
@junacebedo888
@junacebedo888 5 ай бұрын
This exhaustive and has diverse sources. So grateful to have watched and learned from it
@peggy8855
@peggy8855 Жыл бұрын
In the Bible a marriage is consummated when the Groom “goes into” the bride. So yes, of course. That awkward phrasing has a purpose that was hidden for this time.
@amymargaretabigail
@amymargaretabigail 3 ай бұрын
ex Calvinist then fallen away lukewarm Protestant to Catholic.. when i worked at my protestant mega church in nyc years ago it used to hurt, throwing away the little plastic cups showing traces of grape juice and trays of cracker crumbs.. I thank the Lord for the grace of seeing that sight weekly and feeling this was inherently, deeply wrong .. a. throwing away God and b. giving me the understanding to learn, later where Jesus really is .. in the holy catholic church in the Eucharist. There’s a reason Jesus asks his disciples if they are going to walk away too, after he explains the eucharist. He has changed my LIFE through the eucharist. It’s EVERYTHING. So grateful for the sacraments! Love your podcast!!! Thank you for your thoughtfulness and thoroughness and clarity!
@jakejordan9466
@jakejordan9466 Жыл бұрын
Well done Joe! Scooped up the new book
@IRISHBee4
@IRISHBee4 9 ай бұрын
Definitely grabbing the book!
@BensWorkshop
@BensWorkshop 2 ай бұрын
Your book has made it to my wishlist.
@FrJohnBrownSJ
@FrJohnBrownSJ Жыл бұрын
100%
@INRIVivatChristusRex
@INRIVivatChristusRex Жыл бұрын
Done. Bought the book!
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo 4 ай бұрын
As a former labor leader, I was charged with administering the Contract (covenant, agreement) between the Union and the Company. Every Contract had a wage rate addendum, every Contract had the "Whole Agreement" clause, every Contract had the "No Strike / No Lockout" provision for the duration of the Contract. No one from the labor side was permitted to file a grievance against the Company which was not based on a Contract violation. Nobody from the Union or the Company was permitted to introduce any other provisions to the Contract for the duration of that Contract. (In other words, both sides had to agree to whatever provisions that had to be observed. This "Collective Bargaining" was done between Contracts.) Nobody in his right mind could look at the Contract and say, "This is the Company and the Union". The Contract made up the set of rules governing the relationship between the parties and nobody was allowed to add to it or take from it, without severe consequences.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 9 ай бұрын
Beautiful
@therese_paula
@therese_paula 11 ай бұрын
I love your intro music. Whatever you call that 😁
@dylanschweitzer18
@dylanschweitzer18 Жыл бұрын
Watched you a bunch on Catholic answers, finally chrmcing out your Pod. 😊 Also, keep the beard 🤙
@lolobabes8653
@lolobabes8653 8 ай бұрын
Praise God
@franciscafazzo3460
@franciscafazzo3460 5 ай бұрын
You have the words of everlasting life
@sulongenjop7436
@sulongenjop7436 2 күн бұрын
Eucharist is the Last Supper, the traditional ritual since Moses time. The eucharist is the remembrance of Jesus who laid his love for us, save us and free us from the bondage of sins!
@damnedmadman
@damnedmadman Жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that the Old Covenants of Abraham and Moses were sealed by shedding of blood of innocent animals. This foreshadowed the New Covenant which also was sealed with innocent blood - this time a perfect covenant with the blood of the perfect Lamb of God.
@user-qh4te1xz5r
@user-qh4te1xz5r 5 ай бұрын
We receive the body, blood, soul and divinity of Jesus in both the body the host and the blood the cup I know someone who has celiac disease and receives from the cup only
@Proclivitytolife
@Proclivitytolife 11 ай бұрын
Within seconds of hearing you say you had a new book, I went out and purchased it. And also got your book on the eaely Church being Catholic Church. I just loved your Pope Peter book so much, and it being so accessible that I figured these would be the same. Having read so many good books, i am always so pleased when I find one that's really good but doesn't make me hesitate to recommend it or buy it for a less well studied person. Many books are great books, but those less familiar with the topic may not fully appreciate them, but your Pope Peter book is so simply put and generally well put together that I don't hesitate to point to it for Protestants and less studied Catholics who are interested in the topic.
@enderwiggen3638
@enderwiggen3638 5 ай бұрын
I guess that answers it, a lot of Protestant denominations are not Christian
@alwilliams3628
@alwilliams3628 9 ай бұрын
It seems that covenantal relationships are also a part of animal nature, because even though animals might not have human intellect, they exhibit very strong family and social bonds both with their own families and species, as well as with other species as well. There are often symbiotic relationships in nature that seem to have covenant-like qualities, that help both separate species to exist and thrive.
@Anthony-fk2zu
@Anthony-fk2zu Жыл бұрын
Joe please see if it’s possible to have your books on Audible?
@tonyl3762
@tonyl3762 Жыл бұрын
As soon as you said "exchange of persons," I immediately thought of the Trinity. And then you quoted Packer making that point. Nice.
@enniomojica7812
@enniomojica7812 9 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s almost like God is a covenant. God is love, God is a community. God is mutual self giving to another.
@someonesomewhere6316
@someonesomewhere6316 11 ай бұрын
Great presentations always, Joe. Thanks.ank you.
@TaylorRose91
@TaylorRose91 11 ай бұрын
When can we get this is Australia?
@chrishiles8524
@chrishiles8524 9 ай бұрын
While talking about Gert Kwakkels definition of "Berith" you seemed to use the term contract and covenant interchangeably. Why did you do that?
@JoshN91
@JoshN91 Жыл бұрын
What work of St Gregory are you referencing at the 33 minute mark? I’d love to read it!
@JosephHeschmeyer
@JosephHeschmeyer Жыл бұрын
Chapters 37 and 38 of The Great Catechism. St. Gregory starts of by saying that "since the human being is a twofold creature, compounded of soul and body, it is necessary that the saved should lay hold of the Author of the new life through both their component parts. Accordingly, the soul being fused into Him through faith derives from that the means and occasion of salvation; for the act of union with the life implies a fellowship with the life. But the body comes into fellowship and blending with the Author of our salvation in another way." He then spends two chapters explaining that this "other way" is the Eucharist. So if we were just spirits (or spirits imprisoned in bodies, as the Gnostics and John Calvin taught), then 'faith alone' would be sufficient for our salvation. But since we're actually NOT that, but body-soul dualities, then we need to be healed at the level of bodies as well as souls: "the remedy may be distributed through the entire system," in Gregory's words.
@JoshN91
@JoshN91 Жыл бұрын
@@JosephHeschmeyer thank you! I have had my eyes on St Gregory’s Great Catechism… I guess I’ll have to pull the trigger on that one too. Don’t tell my wife…lol I didn’t know that was a belief that Calvin had. Now that is another rabbit hole I have to go down. Haha
@brendansheehan6180
@brendansheehan6180 Жыл бұрын
Yo. Joe is the man.
@thedon978
@thedon978 Жыл бұрын
If This is Jesus, why is It not TREATED as Jesus?! Therein lies the problem. The lack of reverence for the Blessed Sacrament is an ongoing scandal.
@damnedmadman
@damnedmadman Жыл бұрын
Only in the NOM.
@R.C.A.T
@R.C.A.T 11 ай бұрын
​@@damnedmadman Not true
@damnedmadman
@damnedmadman 11 ай бұрын
@@R.C.A.T What's not true? The whole TLM is totally focused on the Blessed Sacrament where reverence is mandatory, because it's built into the rite itself.
@damnedmadman
@damnedmadman 11 ай бұрын
@po18guy What exactly have I said wrong?
@pringlessourcream9527
@pringlessourcream9527 11 ай бұрын
@@damnedmadman Speaking like a true protestant.
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo 4 ай бұрын
In the churches of Christ, the importance of sticking to the New Covenant is very high on the list. The subtitle for the churches of Christ is "The New Testament Church". She is a stickler for, "Thus Saith the Lord." In the churches of Christ, the Lord's Supper is done every Sunday (first day of the week, per Acts 20:7). That being said, however, I noticed in my travels that many churches regularly call the bread and wine "representative" of the body and blood of Jesus. This is how they teach it: "This represents the body of Jesus" and "This represents the blood of Jesus". I asked the question, "If we're going solely by the word of God then, where does it say, 'represents?'" The truth is, it doesn't say, "represents". That's a _tradition_ unknown to the word of God. That is a _tradition_ of men, which Jesus hated. A "representation" is a re-presenting of the body and blood of Jesus. Is that what we're doing? Are we re-sacrificing Jesus' body and re-sheding His blood every Sunday? No. Only an apostate would do such a thing. "For by ONE OFFERING He hath perfected forever them that are the sanctified." Hebrews is clear and the churches of Christ are wrong (those who call it a "re-presentation" of Christ's body and blood). Jesus was offered ONCE for all and for the evil people in the churches of Christ who think they're re-sacrificing Jesus again and again, they're wrong. Hebrews 10:10 - By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ *_once for all._*
@bibleman8010
@bibleman8010 11 ай бұрын
*Hebrews 10:26-29 “For IF WE SIN DELIBERATELY after receiving knowledge of the truth, THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS, BUT A FEARFUL PROSPECT OF JUDGMENT, AND A FURY OF FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES………..HOW MUCH MORE PUNISHMENT DO YOU THINK WILL BE DESERVED BY THE MAN WHO HAS SPURNED THE SON OF GOD, AND 🤔🤔PROFANED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT BY WHICH HE HAS SANCTIFIED, AND OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT OF GRACE”.*
@chrishiles8524
@chrishiles8524 9 ай бұрын
@shamelesspopery I am an avid Audible user and I find nothing from Joe Heschmeyer. When can this problem be fixed?
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
When audible decides to create audio books of that author.
@classicalteacher
@classicalteacher 7 ай бұрын
To be Christian is to celebrate the Eucharist and to be Baptized. Without the Eucharist, you are not Christian. If someone is against the Eucharist, they are anti-Christ. It's as easy as this.
@DannyLoyd
@DannyLoyd 6 ай бұрын
Jesus said that if your eye causes you to sin, to pluck it out. Do the Catholics do that? Why not?
@simsujemy
@simsujemy 5 ай бұрын
Because it's not the eye that causes to sin. Notice "if" :) It's about how we should get rid of this, which causes the sin.
@djo-dji6018
@djo-dji6018 Жыл бұрын
21:28 that's the fundamental point of the video.
@mirando100
@mirando100 Жыл бұрын
How would you answer the objection that the eucharist is simply the misapplication of the Aristotelian philosphy method of substance and accidents, without it there were not such thing as transubstantiation
@paularnold3745
@paularnold3745 Жыл бұрын
Transubstantiation is not required for belief in the Real Presence. It is merely a philosophical tool to explain how the Real Presence of Christ occurs while we still perceive bread and wine. When Jesus gave His sermon about the need to eat His flesh and drink His blood (see John chapter 6), He did not require anyone to first study Aristotelian philosophy. When St. Paul exhorted the Corinthians to recognize Christ's body in the Eucharist and not receive it unworthily (see 1 Corinthians chapters 10 and 11), it was not as a disciple of Aristotle, but as an Apostle of Jesus. Belief in the Real Presence long predates medieval theologians trying to explain it using philosophy.
@JosephHeschmeyer
@JosephHeschmeyer Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Akin has a good answer to this argument: "The term transubstantiation itself is not Aristotelian, and Aristotle did not use it. The word is Latin rather than Greek, and it comes from perfectly common Latin roots: trans, which means across or beyond, and substantia, which means substance. Any Latin speaker of the day would naturally understand it to mean a change of one substance or reality into another, as you can tell from the context in which Lateran IV used it. Neither do we find distinctly Aristotelian terms like prime matter, substantial form, or even accidents in the Church’s articulation of transubstantiation. " Read more at: www.catholic.com/magazine/online-edition/can-a-catholic-reject-transubstantiation
@StoaoftheSouth
@StoaoftheSouth Жыл бұрын
Erick Ybarra just dropped a video on Intellectual Catholicism, which addresses this a bit. Might be worth your time.
@Catholic1391
@Catholic1391 Жыл бұрын
Science proof of the Eucharist miracle. kzbin.info/www/bejne/b2TGooVjo9x8btWc Eucharist Miracle of a beating heart. kzbin.info/www/bejne/bWWapGCNnLhql5I kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHaskqBvequbqa8 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qaCmnJmqd6emeNE
@Bruno69847
@Bruno69847 4 ай бұрын
The Eucharist means sacrifice, communion with God, take part with His body and blood, in His nature, and it´s exactly what keeps all christians united, in the same sacrament. The consequences are obvious to the chrisitans who left Eucharist, divisions and divisions and more divisions. Meanwhile Catholic Church stay one, with the same doctrine.
@DanielFernandez-jv7jx
@DanielFernandez-jv7jx 11 ай бұрын
If the Trinity is our understanding of God's relational structure, how can God also be Absolutely Simple as St. Thomas Aquinas teaches?
@clairestevens3194
@clairestevens3194 11 ай бұрын
Because He is God.
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
I thought the Trinity was his nature...
@Biblejuice83
@Biblejuice83 4 ай бұрын
Is the eucharist still the eucharist if you don't partake in the blood of christ with the host? Every church I've gone to its just the host.....
@trudyfriedrich7416
@trudyfriedrich7416 3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. The Catholic Church officially defined that Jesus is whole and entire in the consecrated host and the consecrated wine. So receiving under either species is valid.
@frederickanderson1860
@frederickanderson1860 3 ай бұрын
This is a one man works he gives all the centuries of teaching as if he has the Catholic mentality of they have all the truth. self righteous is displayed by his own individual efforts.
@trupela
@trupela 5 ай бұрын
All boundaries/laws are meant to be transcended/broken, including religion, even Roman Catholicism. The problem arises when we transcend/break poorly.
@trupela
@trupela 5 ай бұрын
The Eucharist also must be transcended. But the Eucharist is also the way to transcend the Eucharist. Love is unbounded! That’s where you’re wrong, Joe.
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 9 ай бұрын
“23. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25. Behold, I have told you before. 26. Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not. 27. For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.” (Mat 24:23-27, KJV)
@TruthHasSpoken
@TruthHasSpoken 9 ай бұрын
Describes those 16th c Catholic deformers well
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicDefender-bp7my Matthew 16:23 KJV Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men...
@richardjackson7887
@richardjackson7887 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicDefender-bp7my So you do not deny that you have a man pull God down from heaven so you can eat his flesh! You claim, Catholics claim!. God must be pleased that you kill his son so you can eat his flesh! No wonder you have no understanding of God, his ways and his salvation that only he could accomplish. But you still have time to get to know God and his will for us until you take your last breath..
@benjaminfalzon4622
@benjaminfalzon4622 6 күн бұрын
WHAT!!!! Have I just read, "Christianity cannot exist without the Eucharist? 😲 Is that what Jesus said?... Where did Jesus say that?... "The tongue of the wise makes knowledge appealing, but the mouth of fool belches out foolishness." Proverbs 15:2."NLT"
@kennethprather9633
@kennethprather9633 2 ай бұрын
The Eucharist to give people salvation who don't have the Holy Spirit yet. John 6:63 Jesus tells us that real flesh is worthless and it is the Holy Spirit in the Eucharist. Peter responds and says yes your words of the Eucharist are to bring everlasting salvation. And that the disciples and friends are already saved.
@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964
@mulipolatuuumataafatiufeaa4964 Жыл бұрын
Hi Joe. Speaking without fear on the truth of Catholic teachings about the Eucharist echoes the name of your Podcast relating to all truths of the Catholic Church headed by the Pope without fear and/or shame. Why shame if you are talking about the Truth. God bless you Joe and keep up the excellent defence of the Body of Christ.God open your mouth with sharp spiritual words to change hearts.
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 7 ай бұрын
COMMUNION!!!!! One "eats" God's Word by believing it and meditating upon it: Isaiah 51:16 "I (the Lord) have put my words in your mouth ...". Ezekiel 3:1 "... eat this scroll and go and speak to the House of Israel". Jeremiah 15:16 "Your words were found and I did eat them ..." Revelation 10:10 " I (John) took the little book out of the angel's hand and ate it". -----Communion How do you labor for the food that endures to eternal life? Believe in me! (John 6:27, 29) “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me [in faith] shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.” (John 6:35) “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:40) “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.” (John 6:47) -------------------------------- When the crowd took offense at his gruesome talk, Jesus exposed their unbelief: “The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe” (John 6:63-64).
@GizmoFromPizmo
@GizmoFromPizmo 4 ай бұрын
"A covenant says, 'I am yours / you are mine." Not always. The Book of Hebrews describes our covenant with God (a unilateral covenant) as a "Last Will and Testament". For example: Heb. 9:16-17 - For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. 17 For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth. And, in fact, Hebrews 10:10 actually comes out and calls it a "will": Heb. 10:10 - By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. A "will" doesn't exchange persons and so the conclusion of the KZbinr is off on this point.
@adelbertleblanc1846
@adelbertleblanc1846 5 ай бұрын
By the will of Christ, the Catholic Church is, in fact, mistress of truth: its function is to authentically express and teach the Truth which is Christ [...] the disciple is bound towards Christ Master to the duty to know ever more fully the Truth that he received from Him, to announce it faithfully and to defend it energetically while refraining from any means contrary to the Spirit of the Gospel. (Extract from the book “365 Days of Hope” by Cardinal Nguyen Van Thuan)
@gideondavid30
@gideondavid30 10 ай бұрын
The goal of the video is to say unless you have a covenant with Rome you don't have a covenant with God.
@jacobecklund717
@jacobecklund717 9 ай бұрын
Catholics believe that the Eastern Orthodox have the Eucharist too. They are not in union with Rome.
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
Unless you are in covenant with those that are in covenant with God, you cannot be in covenant with God. Picking up a Bible doesn’t put you in covenant with God, sorry.
@simsujemy
@simsujemy 5 ай бұрын
Actually, not. All Apostolic Churches have Eucharist.
@AndreAy1975
@AndreAy1975 11 ай бұрын
You are correct: The blood of Jesus is the blood of the new covenant. That's why all believers should receive the cup.
@clairestevens3194
@clairestevens3194 11 ай бұрын
And yet, when we receive Jesus under the species of bread we receive him completely-body, blood, soul, and divinity. I receive from the cup when it is offered but I am not deprived of anything if that is not possible.
@Compulsive-Elk7103
@Compulsive-Elk7103 11 ай бұрын
​@@clairestevens3194Jesus instituted both his body and blood, not just body The Roman church is restricting the blood for NO reason. Thank God I frequent an eastern Catholic church where they still offer the blood
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
@@Compulsive-Elk7103ya, no. Receiving under either species is receiving all, sorry
@christianf5131
@christianf5131 Ай бұрын
Is there anything here a Protestant, let’s say a Lutheran, would disagree with?
@amcasci
@amcasci 2 ай бұрын
I think testament is the proper word. Covenant is a more general word indicating an agreement between two parties. Testament is a specific kind of covenant and it is a one sided arrangement. Eucharist is a last will and testament. Jesus does not consult with us and come to an agreement. We are his descendants and are simply unworthy recipients of what He wills to us in the Eucharist.
@RealSeanithan
@RealSeanithan Жыл бұрын
I also love that everyone always calls the Bible the Bible, since that also just means "book"
@djo-dji6018
@djo-dji6018 Жыл бұрын
The English word 'bible' doesn't just mean 'book'. Don't confuse the original meaning of a term in one language, with the meaning it develops in another language hundreds of years later.
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 10 ай бұрын
It means "books".
@fantasia55
@fantasia55 10 ай бұрын
@djo-dji6018 The word means books - as in collection of books.
@justinward3218
@justinward3218 11 ай бұрын
Shoulda just took a screenshot of Google Earth.
@RockerfellerRothchild1776
@RockerfellerRothchild1776 2 күн бұрын
Im just not into canabalism
@enniomojica7812
@enniomojica7812 9 ай бұрын
The Mass is the New Testament. The new Covenant. When we eat his body and drink his blood we participate in the New Testament - the new and everlasting covenant.
@Murph_gaming
@Murph_gaming 7 ай бұрын
Jesus and his sacrifice is the new Covenant.
@heleniyahabukarsh513
@heleniyahabukarsh513 5 ай бұрын
The bread and wine didn't start with Christianity, the explanation of it did. Every sabbath non believing Jews take it without understanding its meaning. It started with Abraham and Melkezidek.
@andreeattieh2963
@andreeattieh2963 8 ай бұрын
I hate it when protestants who hate the teachings of the Catholic church
@nosuchthing8
@nosuchthing8 4 ай бұрын
As a cat, a bit extreme
@ManciniAndre
@ManciniAndre 4 ай бұрын
This is my blood, but you can only drink if you are a Priest
@follower8815
@follower8815 3 ай бұрын
Have you ever been to a Catholic mass? Everyone receives Christs body and blood lol
@trupela
@trupela 5 ай бұрын
‘…now a few things follow from this’ anachronism. 😂
@1844A.D.
@1844A.D. Жыл бұрын
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@1844A.D.
@1844A.D. 11 ай бұрын
@@po18guy It is quite sad to hear your rejectfulness, but it is typical (and unchristian) attitude that was prophesied - apathy, fear (of being misled), disinterest, pride - ("just as it was in the days of Noah", Matt.24:37) - Did Christ demand to reject everything without investigating? No! May I, therefore, suggest to you : 1. FIRST read the entire chain of arguments and evidence for the Second Advent of Jesus Christ - in which all Christians believe! - in the 1844 AD presentation. 2. THEN refute them with BIBLE, not subjective and prejudiced arguments. 3. If you omit step 1, all counter-arguments are pointless or mere presumptions and a violation of the Christian rule: "Prove all things; hold fast that which is good." (1 Thess 5:21). Amen.
@andreeattieh2963
@andreeattieh2963 8 ай бұрын
​@@1844A.D.stop trolling Catholics
@timmyholland8510
@timmyholland8510 5 ай бұрын
Originally it's the Passover meal that the Lord made the connection to the unleavened bread being His body and wine being His blood; He said, "do this in remembrance of Me." He was saying to continue the Passover, as it represents Him as the new Passover meaning. Strangely, don't Catholic Mass wine only drank by the Preists? Passovers are symbolisms in the Meal; then the Lord's Passover is symbolisms. The 🍷 and the 🍞 prepresents rememberance of the Lord, who died once for the saved, only once.
@simsujemy
@simsujemy 5 ай бұрын
Passovers were not symbolic for Jews. When they shared the lamb, they believed it is the same night that Exodus happened, and this very night God frees THEM from Egypt, not their ancestors, not long ago, for them it was happening right now and to them.
@Johkah
@Johkah 9 ай бұрын
Catholics will believe fhe eucharist but not full submersion baptism.
@bibleman8010
@bibleman8010 9 ай бұрын
Here's just a few for you: It teaches that baptism is immersion instead of pouring (Rom. 6:4; Col. 2:12). Actually, the Catholic Church does not teach against immersion, and that is obviously a valid way for baptism. That said, neither of those passages say in order for a baptism to be valid, it must be done only in immersion. Actually, the Bible speaks quite clearly that other ways of baptism are valid as well. For example, when Ezekiel specifically speaks of the New Covenant, God says, Eze. 36:25-27: 25 I will sprinkle clean water upon you, and you shall be clean from all your uncleannesses, and from all your idols I will cleanse you. 26 A new heart I will give you, and a new spirit I will put within you; and I will take out of your flesh the heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to observe my ordinances. Notice that in the new covenant, the water that is sprinkled brings the Holy Spirit. Obviously, it can not be limited to immersion. Another example, in Acts 16, when the jailer is baptized with his whole household (Acts 16:30-34). Paul goes with the jailer to his home, and baptizes the household there, in the middle of the night. There was no lake where they were immersed. In the houses back then, there were no facilities anywhere in a house, where they could get immersed. It is obviously that either sprinkling (as written by Ezekiel) or pouring could be the only way that the jailer and his family could get baptized.🤔🤔
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
God does not care how much water is used, just that it is used.
@Johkah
@Johkah 6 ай бұрын
@CatholicDefender-bp7my cope
@adamcosper3308
@adamcosper3308 5 ай бұрын
Is Jesus a Ritz or a Triscuit?
@benjaminfalzon4622
@benjaminfalzon4622 2 күн бұрын
God gave his people the Holy Bible...And the Devil gave his people the Eucharist... You have a choice to make Just like Adam and Eve had, they made the wrong choice on behalf of all of us". We also have a choice to make between The Holy Bible and the Eucharist. Which one will you choose? God's people will choose the Holy Bible. Those who trust in the Eucharist make the wrong decision, just like Adm and Eve made. The Eucharist doesn't have the signature of God on it like the Bible has. The signature of God is the word, "HOLY."... The Holy Bible"...The Eucharist"...
@antoroc1
@antoroc1 5 ай бұрын
the Holy Sacrifice is FINISHED....never to be repeated...the MASS Sacrifice mocks CHRIST's Sacrifice...CAN NOT be repeated... " After this, Jesus, knowing that all was now finished, said (to fulfill the Scripture), “I thirst.” A jar full of sour wine stood there, so they put a sponge full of the sour wine on a hyssop branch and held it to his mouth. When Jesus had received the sour wine, he said, “It is finished,” and he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 6 ай бұрын
No! You're taking the words of Jesus literalistically, when you should see a spiritual meaning. The last supper is to be a memorial to Jesus Christ one perfect sacrifice, not a sacrifice, for there is no more sacrifice for sins. Jesus is our passover sacrificed for us.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 6 ай бұрын
@CatholicDefender-bp7my Catholicism is not a Christian faith.
@simsujemy
@simsujemy 5 ай бұрын
In the Old Testament there were sacrifices which were called "memorial", so a sacrifice can be a memorial at the same time. So the fact that Last Supper is a memorial doesn't refute that it's the sacrifice, because it's both. Leviticus 24,5-7 You shall take fine flour and bake twelve loaves from it; two tenths of an ephah shall be in each loaf. And you shall set them in two piles, six in a pile, on the table of pure gold before the Lord. And you shall put pure frankincense on each pile, that it may go with the bread as a memorial portion as a food offering to the Lord."
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 5 ай бұрын
@@simsujemy That's not the same thing. That was for the priest.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 5 ай бұрын
​@CatholicDefender-bp7my So Christ was *once* offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. {Hebrews 9:28}
@user-sd8vy1yb4r
@user-sd8vy1yb4r 6 ай бұрын
Christianity cannot exist without Christ. He said many times that if you believe on Him, you shall have eternal life. there are no other stipulations. but the roman catholic church's traditions, the magisterium and practices such as the mass (which is a re-sacrifice of Christ) are also needed, according to the roman catholic church. the roman catholic church rejects that Christ's death on the cross was enough for salvation. they are calling Christ a liar. this is repeated in both their practices and their counter-reformation (based in the councils of trent). they repeated that anyone who believes that salvation is through Christ alone is anathama (to be damned).
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic 9 ай бұрын
Of course they don’t believe sound doctrine. Titus2, 2Tim3:16-4:4. Since the 16th century revolt the Body of Christ has sliced and diced into thousands of pieces. Their tradition is not just anti Eucharistic and anti Authority of Christs Church it’s so much worse than that.
@gk3292
@gk3292 8 ай бұрын
@Spiritof76….well said!!
@mitchellosmer1293
@mitchellosmer1293 7 ай бұрын
COMMUNION!!!!! One "eats" God's Word by believing it and meditating upon it: Isaiah 51:16 "I (the Lord) have put my words in your mouth ...". Ezekiel 3:1 "... eat this scroll and go and speak to the House of Israel". Jeremiah 15:16 "Your words were found and I did eat them ..." Revelation 10:10 " I (John) took the little book out of the angel's hand and ate it". -----Communion How do you labor for the food that endures to eternal life? Believe in me! (John 6:27, 29) “I am the bread of life; whoever comes to me [in faith] shall not hunger, and whoever believes in me shall never thirst.” (John 6:35) “For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.” (John 6:40) “Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever believes has eternal life.” (John 6:47) -------------------------------- When the crowd took offense at his gruesome talk, Jesus exposed their unbelief: “The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But there are some of you who do not believe” (John 6:63-64).
@mikejames303
@mikejames303 13 күн бұрын
If you don't believe in the Real Presence you're not Christian. You may believe in the Bible and think you follow Christ, but so did Nestorian and the Arians. Protestantism isn't Christianity.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 6 ай бұрын
Is God divided against himself? God forbid. Only *thou shalt not eat the blood* thereof; thou shalt pour it upon the ground as water. {Deuteronomy 15:23} Christ blood is symbolic of his doctrine, which is found in His word, which is symbolic of the bread of life. Jesus said, "I am that bread of life."
@simsujemy
@simsujemy 5 ай бұрын
Yes. But check out Lev 17,10-14. This just confirms that Blood of Jesus should be understood to be really present in the Wine of New Covenant. You drink His Blood, you partake in the eternal life of eternal God.
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 5 ай бұрын
​@@simsujemy And he [the Messiah] shall confirm the covenant with many for ONE WEEK: and IN THE MIDST OF THE WEEK (the seventieth) he [Christ] SHALL CAUSE THE SACRIFICE AND THE OBLATION TO CEASE, and for the overspreading of abominations (the continued temple sacrifices, after Christ one perfect sacrifice.) he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate. ("Behold your house has been left unto you desolate.") {Daniel 9:27}
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 5 ай бұрын
​@@simsujemy And whatsoever man there be of the house of Israel, or of the strangers that sojourn among you, that eateth any manner of blood; I will even set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and *will cut him off from among his people* For the life of the flesh is in the blood: and I have given it to you upon the altar to make an atonement for your souls: for it is the blood that *maketh an atonement for the soul* Therefore I said unto the children of Israel, *No soul of you shall eat blood* neither shall any stranger that sojourneth among you eat blood. {Leviticus 17:10-12} So Christ was *once offered to bear the sins of many* and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation. {Hebrews 9:28}
@larrybedouin2921
@larrybedouin2921 5 ай бұрын
​@@CatholicDefender-bp7my That is satanic. Imagine a mere mortal bringing the Creator of the universe at his beck and call.
@NeededGR13F
@NeededGR13F 8 ай бұрын
Hebrews 10:11-25 Ezekiel 11:14-21 Ezekiel 36:22-36 Ezekiel 37:24-28 The new covenant is that God will draw his people out of the nations, he will give them new hearts that will follow his statutes, and that he would be their God forever. This rules out the eucharist as being the actual covenant. Your church teaches that it's possible to partake of the eucharist, but not care about following God's statues and fall away and perish through apostasy.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic 8 ай бұрын
Isn’t it amazing how protestants tell Catholics how to worship God when their founders walked away from Jesus like Judas Iscariot did. Read John 6:64 and 71.
@NeededGR13F
@NeededGR13F 8 ай бұрын
@@Spiritof76Catholic They didn't leave Jesus, they left your church. And even then, they didn't technically 'leave', they were excommunicated. That aside, I'm not actually telling you how to worship. This is an apologetics channel, I'm offering apologetics, and you conveniently didn't address the passages I brought up.
@Spiritof76Catholic
@Spiritof76Catholic 8 ай бұрын
@@NeededGR13F Actually the body of Christ is the Catholic Church. It’s a wonder how protestants come to a Catholic page intending to insult Catholics with their alleged “apologetics” and breathing fire like Saul. Then in the same breath deny that Jesus established his one, authoritative church on Peter. Mat16:18-20. You come here not out of love but hate and vengeance and then make probably the most hateful declarative statement I have read in quite a while, “The new covenant is that God will draw his people out of the nations, he will give them new hearts that will follow his statutes, and that he would be their God forever. This rules out the eucharist as being the actual covenant. Your church teaches that it's possible to partake of the eucharist, but not care about following God's statues and fall away and perish through apostasy.” Tell that to Jesus when you see him that he never intended his disciples to eat his body and drink his blood. Jesus warned that those who don’t have no life in them. Instead you should look for what is common between us. You accept thousands of different protestant beliefs and strange, unbiblical rituals. I have no clue what statutes you are talking about since every protestant sect that I am aware of draft their own. Finally I don’t accept any Scripture interpretation of yours. Jesus gave his Apostles and their successors in the Catholic Church the authority to interpret Scripture because as 2Peter3:16 says, 16 speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures.
@NeededGR13F
@NeededGR13F 8 ай бұрын
@@Spiritof76Catholic The best understanding is actually that the 'rock' is the confession that "Jesus is the Christ and The Son of the living God." In verse 18 Jesus says "and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." But if you assume that Peter was the 'rock', and that the RCC is the continuation of that church, then you would have to conclude that the gates of hell _did_ prevail against it. The RCC unfortunately fell under the anathema of Galatians 2 during the council of Trent. And there's no reason to think something like that would ever happen to Jesus' Church. As for the eucharist, John 6:35 actually confirms that any call to eat or drink him in the following verses are metaphorical calls to come to him and believe. And what I said in that section was true. Your church teaches that one can partake of the eucharist thousands upon thousands of times, commit a mortal sin, and perish. If that were true, then you would have to conclude that Jesus failed the task that The Father gave him mentioned in John 6:35-40. Except Jesus confirms in John 10:22-30 that they wouldn't ever perish. So you would have to conclude that the eucharist of the RCC mass isn't what was being discussed in John 6. As for 2 Peter 3:16, I'd actually suggest, based on what I pointed out already, that it's the RCC that twist the scriptures to their own destruction.
@NeededGR13F
@NeededGR13F 6 ай бұрын
To the dude named "Catholicdefender", I'm getting notifications that you're trying to say something, but they aren't showing up cus the filter doesn't like your language. Did you have an actual argument to go with those insults?
@D12Min
@D12Min 6 ай бұрын
Jesus told them that flesh (you must insert "fallen", change the text for your agenda) profits nothing AND said that he will physically ascend back to heaven, which to them necessarily would have meant that they would not eat him, see John 6:63-64. He absolutely did clarify that they would not eat him. Moreover, Hebrews 10:8-26 tells us that he was offered once and for all AND that the sanctifiying action of that sacrificing is forever completed. So there cannot be a propitiatory sacrifice of the mass.
@koppite9600
@koppite9600 6 ай бұрын
Maybe we leave this one to the Church? Which church should solve it for us?
@geoffjs
@geoffjs 6 ай бұрын
The Holy Sacrifice is a bloody re-presentation of Calvary - Jn 6 51-59 Mal 1 11. Without sacrifice Prots do not worship validly
@D12Min
@D12Min 6 ай бұрын
@@geoffjs Christ does not need to be represented. The work of Calvary is completed. Hebrews 10: 12 But this Man, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, SAT DOWN at the right hand of God, 13 from that time waiting till His enemies are made His footstool. 14 For by one offering He has perfected FOREVER those who are being sanctified. Thus, the RCC eucharist is a fake sacrifice that seeks to undermine the already once and for all FINISHED sacrifice of Christ. Here is the true sacrifice of the Christian church: Hebrews 13:15 Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name.
@D12Min
@D12Min 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicDefender-bp7my LOL what? I am neither Branch Davidian nor Seventh Day Adventist nor anything else like that. But a Catholic screaming heresy immediately makes me think of mass murder and people being burnt alive. So I guess from a historical point of view even all these cults are not as bad as Roman Catholicism
@D12Min
@D12Min 4 ай бұрын
@@koppite9600 well, let´s just say that a mass-murderous "church" of interreligious ecumenism cannot be the one church. As Jesus said, you will know them by their fruit, i.e. not by their apostolic succession.
@paulsmallwood1484
@paulsmallwood1484 Жыл бұрын
Protestant response. So what we are saying here is that unless you partake of Communion in a Roman Catholic Church performed by a Roman Catholic priest, you are not experiencing true Christianity. So it seems then that what you are also saying is that the nearly one billion believers in the world who don’t take communion from a Roman Catholic priest are not truly Christian. I don’t how you can take it any other way. If so, then that seems to me to be about as sectarian a statement as can be made. Vatican II clearly states that Protestants ARE Christian. This is an attack on Vatican II. Vatican II makes it clear that there are other Christians besides Roman Catholics. It does not say that only Roman Catholics are Christian. Who do we believe Vatican II or Shameless Popery? I think the answer is obvious!
@ddoggall
@ddoggall Жыл бұрын
Sectarian or not, these are the words of Our Lord. See Jn 6:53
@paulsmallwood1484
@paulsmallwood1484 Жыл бұрын
@@ddoggall Our Lord does not condone sectarianism. At best it is an error and at worst it is a sin so no our Lord does not advocate sin. You have taken our Lord’s words and are using them for sectarian purposes. Our Lord has not turned his back on nearly a billion believers because they don’t take Communion from a Roman Catholic priest. You have my sympathies if that is your conclusion from this passage.
@ddoggall
@ddoggall Жыл бұрын
@@paulsmallwood1484 "Our Lord does not condone sectarianism." Says who? For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. (Matthew 10:35) Sounds a bit sectarian, not that that's a bad thing. Also, Sheep? Goats?
@paulsmallwood1484
@paulsmallwood1484 Жыл бұрын
@@ddoggall Yes. You have taken our Lord’s words and are using them for sectarian purposes
@ddoggall
@ddoggall Жыл бұрын
@@paulsmallwood1484 Untwist them, then. Please, use them for UNsectarian purposes; you know, so I'll learn. You did ask, "Please let me know...". I did, now you can let ME know.
@tknciliba4743
@tknciliba4743 5 ай бұрын
Christianity exists because of the Blood, Jesus shed on the cross & his Resurrection. Mass is not everything, modern day Pharisees.
@geoffjs
@geoffjs 3 ай бұрын
The literal Real Presence in the Eucharist Jn 6 51-58 & esp 6:63. The “flesh” Jesus notes refers to our inclination to think only with our natural human reason instead of the enlightenment that comes with the grace of God. If you don’t agree with that interpretation, the Real Presence is supported by 1 Cor 10 16-17 & 1 Cor 11 23-27 To preempt the usual knee jerk response,​​ the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass is an unbloody REPRESENTATION of Calvary NOT a resacrificing as Protestantism incorrectly claims. Also Mal 1:11 with gentiles offering pure sacrifice in all places at all times. The CC offers Mass daily in most parishes around the world. As Protestantism, generally, doesn’t believe in sacrificial worship Jn 6 51-58, they have no altars & no liturgical worship so no “church”, more like a synagogue with prayer & teaching. The words daily bread in the Lord’s Prayer, in their original language mean supernatural bread ie the Eucharist. Research Eucharistic miracles that science can’t explain, same AB blood type and living heart tissue
@tknciliba4743
@tknciliba4743 3 ай бұрын
@@geoffjs I think God said He desires Mercy & Obedience more than sacrifice. Hosea 6 :6. Again in 1 Samuel. 1 Pet 2:5 Offer up Spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Mary was invented in the 3rd & 4th century (1st ever prayer recorded). Thank you for the offer however my Bible says I have to believe in Jesus Christ to attain eternal life. John 3:16. & John 3:3 must be born again. God is Spirit. Paul speaks against taking the eucharist to lightly and you guys do it at every mass. Good for you. I don't do fairytales such as fairy godmother Mary and her seven dwarves (dead saints). Imagine dead saints can hear prayers in heaven and answer them on earth(that is Omnipresent) God's quality His identity, but your saints possess this quality 🙊🙉🙈. Stephen died in Acts, any biblical proof that he is in heaven? Yet your church has said all these saints (st Christopher, St Benedict etc) are in heaven. Another fairytale. What do you put in the wine??? You are more worried about eucharist miracles than Jesus miracles. You do your eucharist I will do my Jesus. May God bless you.
@tknciliba4743
@tknciliba4743 3 ай бұрын
@@geoffjs John 6:63 It is Spiritual. God is Spirit! Maybe your God is Carnal. Paul spoke about not taking the eucharist when you are not in right standing with men & God. Eucharist is taken from a Greek word. It's funny how even the word breaks up Christ. Our bodies are the Temple Of God. He lives in US. Not in an building & Not in bread or wine.
@donhaddix3770
@donhaddix3770 9 ай бұрын
false claim.
@fbeck5625
@fbeck5625 6 күн бұрын
No. God holds Christianity together and if you cannot see that the little biscuit is not God and purely an idol made by man then you are in trouble. Christianity only exists because of God. Full stop. It is purely a symbolic gesture to celebrate and be thankful what God has done for us by dying on the cross and taking our sin. The Almighty and Great God does not live in a biscuit. Surely you have to realise how problematic that is.
@SupremeCommanderZion
@SupremeCommanderZion 7 ай бұрын
Catholic clergy should have thought of that before destroying that 2000year tradition... Selfish unforgiving hypocrites are only consuming their own damnation.
@SupremeCommanderZion
@SupremeCommanderZion 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicDefender-bp7my keep on consuming... Consumption being only one of many curses outlined in Deuteronomy 28.
@SupremeCommanderZion
@SupremeCommanderZion 6 ай бұрын
@@CatholicDefender-bp7my if this one was a psychopath then that would make yourself a false witness(for thine reply is in thy accusation); how fortunate for ye that this charge & accusation against thee in heaven be not held against thee.
@RichardSmith-mx9ue
@RichardSmith-mx9ue 9 ай бұрын
Read John 6:63 Jesus said the flesh counts for nothing. He was speaking of his flesh, the words he spoke are Spirit and life.
@bibleman8010
@bibleman8010 9 ай бұрын
In the next verse, He separated spiritual things from earthly things. Vs 63*, Jesus said, "It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing. The words I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life." Did He say He was speaking figuratively or in parables? This is the second verse detractors use to try to "prove" that Jesus spoke figuratively for the whole chapter. Did Jesus say "My" flesh? No, He said "the" flesh. What Jesus had said was, that we cannot accept this mystery if we accept it in too human a way, by having an earthly view of things. Those who can only think of cannibalism, are they not having an earthly view? See John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." Verse 63 means that we should not have a carnal human understanding of His words, but a spiritual understanding.😜😜
@bibleman8010
@bibleman8010 9 ай бұрын
Hebrews 10:26-29 “For IF WE SIN DELIBERATELY after receiving knowledge of the truth, THERE NO LONGER REMAINS A SACRIFICE FOR SINS, BUT A FEARFUL PROSPECT OF JUDGMENT, AND A FURY OF FIRE WHICH WILL CONSUME THE ADVERSARIES………..HOW MUCH MORE PUNISHMENT DO YOU THINK WILL BE DESERVED BY THE MAN WHO HAS SPURNED THE SON OF GOD, AND 🤔🤔PROFANED THE BLOOD OF THE COVENANT BY WHICH HE HAS SANCTIFIED, AND OUTRAGED THE SPIRIT OF GRACE”.🤣🤣
@RichardSmith-mx9ue
@RichardSmith-mx9ue 9 ай бұрын
@@bibleman8010 Read and don't add to it. Heb 9-25 -28, Hebrew 10-10-14. By one sacrifice He has made perfect forever those who are being made holy. The Word does not say an on going bloodless sacrifice
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
Unfortunately for you the spirit is in the flesh, which cannot be divided
@bibleman8010
@bibleman8010 9 ай бұрын
@@frekigeri4317 Vs 63*, Jesus said, "It is the spirit that quickens; the flesh profits nothing. The words I speak to you, they are spirit, and they are life." Did He say He was speaking figuratively or in parables? This is the second verse detractors use to try to "prove" that Jesus spoke figuratively for the whole chapter. Did Jesus say "My" flesh? No, He said "the" flesh. What Jesus had said was, that we cannot accept this mystery if we accept it in too human a way, by having an earthly view of things. Those who can only think of cannibalism, are they not having an earthly view? See John 3:6, "That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit." Verse 63 means that we should not have a carnal human understanding of His words, but a spiritual understanding
@Redwarfa
@Redwarfa Ай бұрын
All christian churches have communion
@johnp.6043
@johnp.6043 Жыл бұрын
Romans 7:24 The body does not commune with the soul, ( spiritual circumcised,cut away from the sin nature we are in when a Christian is saved.) Hebrews 11:1 , Faith is believing without seeing, Romans 10:17 Faith comes by hearing the word of God. This is unbiblical that you mentioned in 33:00 in your video. That if we are spiritual alone it would be faith alone. ( If we were spiritual we would be absent from the body, present with the Lord, No Faith would be required, We now see Jesus )
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
Imagine still believing that Paul said "to be absent from the body is to be with the Lord". Since all your points are very very very bad, explain to me specifically where you got that belief. Cite the whole passage.
@JosephHeschmeyer
@JosephHeschmeyer Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that Romans 7:24 teaches that we're just souls trapped in bodies? Or some other thing?
@tafazzi-on-discord
@tafazzi-on-discord Жыл бұрын
@@JosephHeschmeyer he's piling up 5 protestant talking points blended together because he knows that whenever those claims try to stand by themselves many catholics show how they're wrong
@johnp.6043
@johnp.6043 Жыл бұрын
@@JosephHeschmeyer Thank you Joseph for writing. First of all I am not a troll, I have more Catholic friends than Protestant friends. I love everyone, and I do not want to give the devil any pleasure or satisfaction. I am not sure what you meant by the body communes with the soul about 33:00 into your video. Colossians 2:11 KJV. In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in “ Putting off the body of the sins of the flesh” by the circumcision of Christ. ( we are cut away from our vile sinful bodies, he brought us with a price) Philippians 3:21 Whom shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to the working whereby he is able to subdue all things unto himself. 2 Corinthians 5:8 ( a saved Christian at the judgement seat of Christ,) We are confident, Absent from the body, and to be present with the lord. VS10, One may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether good or bad. 1Cor. 3 good works are for rewards, bad works burn up. Romans 7 ( Paul explains vs14:onwards,He is saying in my flesh dwelleth no good things,Which is present with me. ( I Do the things in my body that I do not want to do,but I do them anyways O ‘wretched man that I am. (Thank God by his grace ,that I am saved) for I am the chief of sinners born out of due time) I do not see any communing with the body and soul in these Bible passages, Ephesians 4:30 Don’t grieve the Holy Spirt because your sealed with the Holy Spirt of promise,unto the day of redemption. I Only see we will we have communing with our bodies, when they are glorified bodies. 1Cor.15:52, 1Thess.4:16-17
@johnp.6043
@johnp.6043 Жыл бұрын
@weaponofchoice-tc7qs Jesus Christ is the love of my life, I am glad he is yours, He is our savior to eternal salvation and shed is blood for the remission of our sins. 1Cor.15:1-4 Died buried and rose on the third day. Hebrews1:3 When he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the majesty on high.
@soteriology400
@soteriology400 Жыл бұрын
The Eucharist is a shallow understanding of Gods word.
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
Your position is a shallow understanding of Gods word.
@soteriology400
@soteriology400 9 ай бұрын
@@frekigeri4317Nope, Peter and Paul equated Gods Word as food. Jesus also stated His will is to do the will of Him who sent Him. He also said His food is to do the will of the Father. You are not actually eating Jesus, as in cannibalism.
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
@@soteriology400sorry bud, the Jews had the word and it wasn’t enough. I was healed of a 40 year affliction at my first Catholic mass. At which time God let me know the the Eucharist is exactly what Catholicism says it is, which I had never studied. In fact I was taken down the road to emmaus. With the burning in my heart at the liturgy of the word and Jesus Christ exposing Himself in the breaking of bread. You are quite wrong and I’ll never deny the Eucharist, not ever.
@soteriology400
@soteriology400 9 ай бұрын
@@frekigeri4317 Gods word wasn't enough for the Jews, for what exactly? Healing of an affliction, ok. How does breaking of bread expose Jesus?
@andreeattieh2963
@andreeattieh2963 8 ай бұрын
​@@soteriology400try reading what the early Christians and church fathers believe it's all Catholic
@carefullychristian8657
@carefullychristian8657 5 ай бұрын
You blew that the word like trinity does not exist in bible NT People fabricated it. In gospel simple take eat this is my body and my blood do this in rememberance of me till i come BUT it was bread and wine. Thats all why add your own stuff. Christianity can not be withou jesus not eucharist. No jesus no eucharist.. Say catholicism cant stand without eucharist
@AlgyPug
@AlgyPug Жыл бұрын
Eucharistic adoration? Isn't that like worshipping your lunch?
@djo-dji6018
@djo-dji6018 Жыл бұрын
Don't be in adoration of your ignorance. Study and learn.
@AlgyPug
@AlgyPug Жыл бұрын
@@djo-dji6018 What's adoration go to do with it? I learned how to eat my lunch when I was three years old.
@atnyzous
@atnyzous Жыл бұрын
Exactly, except it's become Jesus.
@patquint3291
@patquint3291 9 ай бұрын
@@AlgyPugNothing more distasteful and tacky than someone who thinks they are irresistibly clever, but in reality are just plain pathetic.
@frekigeri4317
@frekigeri4317 9 ай бұрын
If you think eating the body and blood of Christ is akin to eating your lunch, you are a sad individual
@JamesRichardWiley
@JamesRichardWiley Жыл бұрын
As a Catholic I ate the body of Jesus and drank his blood for twenty years. Nothing happened. I am no longer practicing cannibalism.
@JosephHeschmeyer
@JosephHeschmeyer Жыл бұрын
Catholics don't believe in Eucharistic cannibalism. It sounds like you didn't have a great understanding of what Catholics believed or why. I hope you'll check out my book, and learn a little more on the subject. That way, if you reject the teaching, you are at least rejecting the true Catholic teaching instead of a silly caricature.
@paularnold3745
@paularnold3745 Жыл бұрын
The Eucharist is Jesus's living glorified, resurrected body. Jesus is not harmed by feeding us himself as spiritual food. Read John chapter 6 (read the whole chapter). Read 1 Corinthians chapters 10 and 11. The Romans also thought the early Christians were cannibals for their Eucharistic beliefs. But the Romans thinking it was cannibalism was due to them thinking in the way of "the flesh" and not in the way of "the spirit". The same was true of those who would not accept what Jesus said about eating his body and drinking his blood. They were thinking only in human ways (the flesh) and not according to the spirit which gives life. St. Paul explains that those who do not discern the body of Christ in the Eucharist and eat it unworthily are guilty of profaning the body and blood of the Lord. Those who discern the body of Christ are in the spirit, those who do not discern the Body are in the flesh. Please come back to Christ's Church. I pray that you will begin thinking and living according to the Spirit.
@paulcapaccio9905
@paulcapaccio9905 Жыл бұрын
James hell gladly awaits you. You gad better go to confession and return before you die
@dited358
@dited358 Жыл бұрын
​@@JosephHeschmeyer Yea nah mate, transubstantiation is a literal catholic belief, along with praying to dead people and a myriad of other non-Biblical traditions.
@irishandscottish1829
@irishandscottish1829 Жыл бұрын
@@dited358 you deny what Scripture clearly tells us? Why do you not trust Our Lord and what He said and instead deem that those who followed Him (like His mother and the Apostles) far more perfectly than you or I are dead… “He is God not of the dead, but of the living; you are quite wrong.” (Mark 12:27) “I am the resurrection and the life, whoever believes in me, even if he dies, will live, and everyone who lives and believes in me will never die.” (John 11:25-26). “I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Issac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” (Matt. 22:32 KJV) [St. Luke's Gospel adds *”For all live unto him”* (Luke 20:38 KJV)] “I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live: And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?” (John 11:17-26 KJV) The question is: do *YOU* believe this? Apparently not since you want to make the argument that we Catholics pray to dead people! The very Bible that you claim you follow clearly teaches us there is no such thing as a dead saint! You might try to argue at this point that there is no example in the Bible either explicitly or implicitly that suggest we can pray to departed saints? Well, you can try and make that argument but once again let us examine the Scriptures to see if what you claim the Bible says or in this case doesn't say is true. “And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into an high mountain apart, And was transfigured before them: and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. *And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias talking with him.*. Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.” (Matt. 17:1-5 KJV) Jesus Himself spoke with both Moses and Elijah even though Moses was dead and buried for over a thousand years and Elijah was taken up into heaven (for you "Left Behind" fans: he was "raptured") nearly a thousand years before Jesus was born. Jesus is our very example of Christian living and here we have Jesus talking with a so-called 'dead saint' while we read in the Scriptures: “And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. *HE THAT SAITH HE ABIDETH IN HIM OUGHT HIMSELF ALSO SO TO WALK, EVEN AS HE WALKED.*” (1 John 2:3-6 KJV) Therefore, if Jesus spoke with departed Saints and the Bible commands us to walk as Jesus did there is no reason why we can't speak with Saints who have overcome the world and have been perfected and glorified. So how is it that Catholics are violating some divine precept supposedly forbidden by Scripture? How is it that Catholics are disobeying the teachings of Jesus and the Scriptures when Jesus Himself set the example? You might argue and say, 'Hey, Jesus was God and can speak to anyone He wants.' *NEVER* in the Scriptures do we see Jesus breaking any Commandment. Jesus was not free to violate any of the commandments because if He did His sacrifice at Calvary would have been nullified by sin.
@markmeyer4532
@markmeyer4532 Жыл бұрын
Wow. I never expected Catholics could reach this level of heresy. And, it's just that easy to disprove: Luke 22:69 Jesus Christ, the Eternal God is now physically present at the right hand of the Father. Matthew 24:29-30 He will not return to the earth until after the tribulation. Is there a very real and very present Christ in the wafer? No. Christ will return to the same place where He rose. The wafer is a false Christ. Matthew 24:23, 27 Jesus warned us, if anyone says to you, “Look, here is the Christ!,” or, “There he is!” do not believe it... for as lightning that comes from the east is visible even in the West, so will be the coming of the son of man. And, not only that, but the priest, a sinner, has no power. Hebrews 7:26-28 26 For it was indeed fitting that we should have such a high priest; holy, innocent, unstained, separated from sinners, and exalted above the heavens. 27 He has no need, like those high priests, to offer sacrifices daily, first for his own sins and then for those of the people, since he did this once for all when he offered up himself. 28 For the law appoints men sin their weakness as high priests, but the word of the oath, which came later than the law, appoints a Son who has been made perfect forever. What scripture proves is that the Eucharist is not only irrelevant but redundant: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4, John 3:16, Romans 10:9-10, 2 Cor 5:21, Acts 2:38, 1 John 5:13, Romans 8:1-4, Ephesians 2:8-9, John 6:40. Catholicism is just that easy to disprove. Repent, no church is worth your soul.
@bibleman8010
@bibleman8010 Жыл бұрын
what nonseical garbage that was
@damnedmadman
@damnedmadman Жыл бұрын
Read John 6:66. I don't think this is just a coincidence... Not long ago I thought the same as you seem to think now. The path to Truth is steep and narrow. I struggled and prayed, and now I'm sure it is true. Why did Jesus disappear right after He blessed and broke the bread in Emaus? Or did He just change His body? And only then did their eyes open? Why did Jesus order his disciples to collect the remains of the bread with which he fed the multitudes? Why did the Church Fathers, students of the Apostles, believe in His real substantial presence in the Eucharist? Why was there a "showbread" in the Tabernacle of the Jewish Temple - breads that constantly had to be in the presence of God? Well, who else could be constantly in the presence of God? Why did Melchizedek, "king of righteousness", king of Salem (meaning Peace), "priest of the most high God", offer bread and wine? Why was Jesus born in Bethlehem, the "House of Bread"? Jesus is God, and God is almighty. He can adopt the matter of our earthly bread and in the heavenly dimension make them be His eternal body, and for us a food for eternal life. If you believe in the Trinity, so you can believe the Church that Jesus founded. Last but not least - I'm sure you know the Lord's Prayer. Do you know the Greek word used for "daily"? Look that up. "Give us our _epiousion_ bread". Jerome translated the same mysterious word differently. Once it is "daily", once it is "super substantial". Another possible translation is "future/of tomorrow". The Catholic Church doesn't see a contradiction here, all three are correct in the right sense 🙂 Well, this prayer is the words of Jesus himself... It's not just asking for a mere bread (unless we're starving), and neither it is asking for the words of the Bible (we can have them anytime). It is asking for something that only God can give us, that only the Holy Spirit can bring down on Earth, repeating the act of Incarnation, as he did for the first time with His spiritual spouse - Saint Mary, later to be offered on the altar back to the Father, as foretold by the prophet Malachi 1:11
@Anthony-fk2zu
@Anthony-fk2zu Жыл бұрын
Catholics have been preaching the Eucharist since the beginning of Christianity, man.
@Burt1038
@Burt1038 11 ай бұрын
Nice job of setting up a strawman and then confidently knocking it down. Either you don't understand anything about the Eucharist at all or you (like virtually all Protestants) are intellectually dishonest.
@billymays7958
@billymays7958 10 ай бұрын
1 Corinthians 11:23-32. Luke 24. John 6. How could we eat a piece of bread as you say, unworthily? Every Christian on earth for 1500 years believed in the true presence, I guess they're all in hell, and Jesus started a false church?
@0135172990
@0135172990 Жыл бұрын
In KJV and Douay version use " This is my blood of the new testament " instead of new covenant. No wonder, the holy Eucharistic had been offered in the believe of the Real Presence of Jesus before the New Testament been written. Thus, the Eucharist is pillar of each New Testament books; deny the Real Presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist, is throwing into disarray of illusory interpretation of each book of the New Testament, and perpetual fragmentations of Protestant churches every year.
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