Cinematic Excrement: Episode 118 - Shining Through

[@johnnysparkle]

To quote Ebert: "I know it's only a movie, and so perhaps I should be willing to suspend my disbelief, but Shining Through is such an insult to the intelligence that I wasn't able to do that. Here is a film in which scene after scene is so implausible that the movie kept pushing me outside and making me ask how the key scenes could possibly be taken seriously."

[@teddyfurstman1997]

Ebert is a legend in Movie Reviewing. A God among Movie Critics.

[@roberttreacy8271]

@@teddyfurstman1997May he RIP.

[@RealParadoxBlues]

There's actually a term for "This character is ludicrously poor at everything but the story still bends over backwards to go her way": "Anti-Sue".

[@TheRealNormanBates]

RealParadoxBlues shouldn’t that be “aunty sue”? _nyuk nyuk nyuk_

[@ianbrennan9635]

Monroville *rimshot*

[@DorianCairne]

Man, I miss the days when the different kinds of "Sue" characters were still commonplace terms.

[@alexthelizardking]

The "Littlefinger"

[@monroeriddell5822]

I was going to go with Spongebob Squarepants Syndrome.

[@noamotagoveia2363]

"Go ask your parents to start paying more attention to their kids" oof, no mercy

[@otaking3582]

Gotta fight COPPA somehow

[@KevinThePilgrim]

I don’t get the joke. 😅

[@yuyaricachimuel555]

Such a beautiful fucking intro xD

[@markelijio6012]

@@KevinThePilgrim Me either.

[@shadowking9739]

It's ironic that Liam Neeson is a Nazi in this, and then plays Oskar Shindler two years later.

[@matthewdaley746]

Not to mention miraculous that he won, both, Worst Picture, and, Best Picture, in that short of a time period.

[@zombiedodge1426]

​@@matthewdaley746Sandra Bullock won the Best Actress Oscar and the Worst Actress Razzie in the same year. (It would have been even funnier i they'd been for the same film.)

[@matthewdaley746]

@@zombiedodge1426 An absolutely hilarious proposition.

[@michaelstrong5383]

One of the major rules of movie writing: Don't mention a good movie in your bad movie. This film mentioned a few of them that are way better.

[@matthewdaley746]

Nor should you also, show one, don't ever, that's true.

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

That description made me think of Mitch Hedberg. "They used to make movies this stupid. They still do, but they used to, too."

[@captainimagination1110]

TheHeroOfTomorrow what you mean is "They used to make movies this lousy. They still do, but never learn at all somehow." Or "They used to make movies this lacking in quality or decency. They still do yet somehow they still have their jobs."

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

@@captainimagination1110 No, I don't. Because I was quoting someone. :P

[@captainimagination1110]

TheHeroOfTomorrow hey relax I was just makings a joke.

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

@@captainimagination1110 Yeah, a joke that you failed at lol

[@captainimagination1110]

TheHeroOfTomorrow well at my joke was much better than the humor in Hudson Hawk. Clearly all the caffeine in those scenes did not invoke enthusiasm and excitement in the audience for the film.

[@1997residente]

This is the film Quentin Tarantino made fun of in Inglorious Basterds.

[@hesnotquitedead]

1997residente The strudel scene makes more sense.

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

Really?

[@riokamichika1101]

Well, at least one good thing came out of this movie.

[@dylankaiser5546]

Rio Kamichika Ooohhh that’s a bingo!!!

[@TheRealNormanBates]

How so?

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

You know the movie is bad when Sean agrees with the Razzies.

[@captainimagination1110]

TheHeroOfTomorrow are you going to do reviews of The Adventures Of Kid Danger and T.U.F.F Puppy?

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

@@captainimagination1110 No.

[@markelijio6012]

Now here's the good news: Disney favorite Melanie Griffith won an Best International Actress Award for her performance in "Shining Through" at the 1992 Golden Camera Awards in Germany.

[@claytongoode5715]

To be fair, James Bond only became a 00 agent after he made a baked cheesecake to die for.

[@crowtrobot17]

007, License to Bake

[@SpamEggSausage]

ba dam ba dam bad dada

[@TheBattlesword]

“Unless you’re on Twiiter, in which case ‘Mary Sue’ means ‘female character I don’t like’” I KNEW I subscribed to you for a reason!

[@riokamichika1101]

I mean, a lot of people use that term on KZbin as well.

[@KevinThePilgrim]

The Battlesword If you hate Rey from Star Wars.

[@1r0zz]

@@KevinThePilgrim She is. Not much in the first one,err 7th one, but in the 8th one absolutetly. It happens with sexist and racist people try to be... Liberals? Genderist?

[@KevinThePilgrim]

1r0zz I don’t agree to a point. I believe she had basically the same amount of training that Luke had in Empire (not so sure and I’m talking about screen time). I just think they made the mistake of setting The Last Jedi immediately after The Force Awakens. If TLJ had took place at least 6 months later I think the Mary Sue issues would’ve be put to rest. But they blew it.

[@1r0zz]

@@KevinThePilgrim with the big difference that we actually see luke training in empire strikes back, and he is trained by yoda (that's how it is spelled right?) that as far what the movie tells me is like a super master that IS actually teaching him stuff(running jumping force stuff ecc)... in Last Jedi Luke does not really train her, only explain philosophy that does not have anything to do with the force, and the only "training" ray does is play-pretend with a sword. alone. failing at that too? Luke had Obi Wan and then Yoda and is said to be competent in the force (but not as competent as prequel shows the jedi are, understandable as he is not trained systematically ) I mean, I understand that everyone in the seq-sequels is a joke as is like 70ies years since competent jedi and sith was present, so the bad guy is incompetent, the "sith dude" on the throne is incompetent, the "rebellion" is incompetent, the -empir- err -males- first order... why Ray is the (barely, due to inconsistencies) competent one? I mean, TLJ would have been better if not written and directed by someone who's obviously homophobic, sexist and deeply "christian focused"...oh... wait...

[@Oonagh72]

Tippi Hedren is Melanie Griffith’s mother. She could have played the older woman.

[@masonallen3961]

Yeah. That’s what they should’ve done. Hedren’s a great actress.

[@Unknown-bq9id]

@@matthewdaley746 Given that Tippi Hedren was in the movie Roar (to be fair, it was her husband directing the movie), that says something, doesn't it? Why didn't the filmmakers at least try to get Hedren, though?

[@roberttreacy8271]

That would’ve been better (it wouldn’t have saved the movie, but still).

[@markelijio6012]

@@Unknown-bq9id Well she could get the part as fast as she can.

[@robotrix]

She's her Mom but she looks as much like Griffin as Griffin looks like Dakota Johnson - her daughter.

[@roberttreacy8271]

16:24 The third mistake the Razzies made that year was nominating Danny DeVito for Worst Supporting Actor for his performance as the Penguin in Batman Returns.

[@jamesauburn]

3:14 - Well, thanks for not screaming *externally*; didn't wanna think I was watching Nostalgia Critic.

[@munkyzzb7504]

After seeing *A Beautiful Mind* I was able to win a Noble Prize in Mathematics.

[@MisterTutor2010]

After binge watching Breaking Bad, I got a PhD in chemistry :) Technically true.

[@munkyzzb7504]

@@MisterTutor2010 Lol I only seen a few episodes but I did quite a bit of meth so I'm half way there. Congrats on the PHD

[@LuckyPunkProd]

I saw "Spotlight" and got a Pulitzer in Journalism.

[@juhaniaho6698]

Daniel Yerke After I watched Hillary’s America, I became a raving lunatic demagogue.

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

After seeing Harry Potter I was able to do real magic

[@moonman375]

well, Mary Sues can have flaws, but they tend to be seen as "cute" or "funny" and don't really impact the story or the character. So yeah, she's not off the hook

[@irishemogirl6720]

My mother loved this movie. She thought it was one of the best WW2 movies ever made. She watched it so many times & she always cried when they made it across the border.🤦

[@simonfrederiksen104]

Sounds like she might be into "North and South," "The Winds of War" and "War And Remembrance" and naturally "The Thorn Birds". Ye gods those are torture to get through. Especially if you watch the last one during one night. As you approach the end you're basically begging for the old cardinal to croak already.

[@medes5597]

I have a soft spot for the random movies that mom's find to love. Everyone's mum has a movie that you've never heard of in any other context that they absolutely adore for some reason. I have a soft spot for it.

[@akaskitty8541]

"she makes him a strudel." me (only listening, not watching cus I'm driving) is like ..... is that a euphamism?

[@marccolten9801]

If they tried to send me behind enemy lines as a spy I'd make a strudel.

[@markelijio6012]

Sometimes, a lot of actors were saying their lines correctly especially a few takes were totally ruined and then you have to start all over again until you get it right. Sound was very important in motion pictures. The Oscar nominated post production sound crew behind "Die Hard" and they are Stephen Hunter Flick, Richard Shorr, Norman B. Schwartz, George H. Anderson, Hank Salerno, Al Overton, Don J. Bassman, Kevin F. Cleary, Richard Overton, Kevin E. Carpenter and Gary Rogers were back again in Disney's Shining Through (1992). Their sound work was so marvelous. Mixed and edited at 20th Century Fox Studios nearby the Marilyn Monroe Stage in Hollywood, California, USA.

[@JohnLouisBishop84]

Thank Siskel and Ebert for introducing me to this movie: they made fun of the "Taste My Strudel" speech and Douglas' bogus throat wound with glee. A shame about David Seltzer, who wrote "The Omen" and made "Lucas."

[@markelijio6012]

According to Loring Mandel, an Emmy winning television writer who lives in New England and wrote in 1994: "Of all his projects like The Omen, Lucas and Shining Through, David Seltzer had many terrible fights."

[@heymistercarter.]

You know, when you said Griffith is able to convince Douglas to make her a spy by making him a strudel, is it weird I thought that was some kind of innuendo for sleeping with him or something? But no, she actually makes him a strudel, and he makes her a spy. I don't know which is worse, my guess that "making him a strudel" was an innuendo or what actually happens.

[@grizzly_manbanimation8436]

The former sounds more believable than the latter

[@tedgruver7618]

I looked up “Shining Through,” on IMDB. David Seltzer didn’t just direct this movie, he also wrote the script for this mess.

[@markelijio6012]

According to his manager, on most of his screenplays since 1976's The Omen, David Seltzer had real terrible fights with both studios and indies.

[@roberttreacy8271]

David Seltzer also did an uncredited rewrite of Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory.

[@MH-yu7gw]

The interviewer told her in the ‘present day’ interview that she was unknowingly speaking German and she said “I remember it in German” and he said “Remember it in English” and that’s when it changed to English. Still a crap move kind of explains the language shift.

[@philiprearich3480]

That "screaming internally" bit killed me lol

[@roberttreacy8271]

It would make a great GIF.

[@masonallen3961]

Watching Melanie Griffith’s performance in this movie is seriously making me wonder what did Katharine Hepburn see in her? Early in Griffith’s career she received very high praise from the four time Oscar winner who thought that Griffith would become a great actress, someday. And keep in mind around the same time Hepburn was bad mouthing Meryl Streep saying her career would go nowhere. Now I’m not mad at Hepburn for incorrectly predicting which actress would go on to have a long and distinguished career and which one would fall away into relative obscurity. She was a gifted actress, not a psychic. I’m just wondering after seeing Griffith’s performance in this and some other movies (to be fair the movies I have seen her in, are probably not ones she’s proud of, but still) what did the greatest actress of all time according to the American Film Institute see, that made her think she was going to be the next multi Oscar winning legend.

[@matthewdaley746]

Maybe, Tippi Hedren paid her to say it out of desperation, the film in question I believe was Body Double.

[@1997residente]

After Working Girl, Cocaine and Orgies messed up her brain...

[@matthewdaley746]

@@1997residente Her face got messed up even worse, and, her attempts to fix the problem, only made it sorrier by magnitude.

[@SpamEggSausage]

she was really old and not in the best of health

[@MrChaotic4]

The woman Katharine badmouthed has more Oscar nominations than any human in history. Go figure.

[@isukeinukai6941]

January: The month where movies go to die.

[@grahamkristensen9301]

FUCK YOU IT'S JANUARY!

[@isukeinukai6941]

@@matthewdaley746 I'm actually looking forward to that, partially because I enjoy the previous two movies as a guilty pleasure.

[@MrChaotic4]

@@matthewdaley746 Michael Bay did not direct Bad Boys for Life!

[@tristanhartup4936]

Unless that movie was Bad Boys For Life.

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

I've seen all The Middle-Earth & Harry Potter Movies, The Sorcerer's Apprentice & Doctor Strange so that must mean I'm an expert in Magic!

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

I swear to God I wrote my comment before I read yours!

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

@@guillermodebaskerville7117 Eh, that's alright. Shit happens.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

Hey, Gandalf called, and he said you did not pass the magic exam. Just stay in your lane a be a stereotypical evil mastermind.

[@TeeHeejab]

They kind of explained the language changes. Linda says to her interviewer that "remembers it in German" I always took it as she began relaying it in English.

[@elennapointer701]

Dear God, it's true. "She sounds tranked and he just looks annoyed." I love your reviews :D

[@roostergriffin]

Apparently, in this movie's universe, a person could become a lion tamer just because they own their own hat.

[@zombiedodge1426]

That's basically the plot of ROAR, I think.

[@kingamoeboid3887]

@@zombiedodge1426imagine if Sean covered that.

[@nathaniellevesque2782]

But what if my hat has "Lion Tamer" written in great big neon letters?

[@Vecchio_Rhosod85]

Just remember that anteaters and lions are not the same thing.

[@Kahran042]

Personally, for canon characters, I define Mary Sue/Gary Stu as "any character who outshines the actual protagonist".

[@deadpoolguy283]

BTW Drescher is played by actor Ronald Nitschke who is the german voices for Tommy Lee Jones in almost all of his movies.

[@riokamichika1101]

I have seen La Femme Nikita, Leon: The Professional, Assassins, The Killer, all of the Bourne movies, American Assassin, Haywire, Red, Bangkok Dangerous, Bullet To The Head, The Replacement Killers, every Bond movie up to Spectre, The Villainess, Crank, and all three John Wick movies. By this movie's logic, I could be a proficient and ruthless assassin.

[@alexthelizardking]

Rio Kamichika La femme Nikita is about a girl forced to be an assassin despite refusing training. She barely survives her assignments.

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

Michael Douglas would make a great Vault Tec salesman character if they ever make a Fallout movie.

[@ChristianMcAngus]

They thought they were making equivalent of "Schindler's List". Actually made equivalent of "The Day the Clown Cried".

[@MisterTutor2010]

Well Liam Neeson was in the movie :)

[@MissBarker93]

O O F

[@otaking3582]

This is the exact opposite of Day the Clown Cried, in that DtCC is a beautiful movie that never got released whereas Shining Through is a terrible movie that did get released

[@tristanhartup4936]

This came out before Schindler's List

[@mrliteral9347]

When promoting the movie, blonde actress Melanie Griffith was quoted as saying "Six million jews were killed during world war two...that's a lot of people."

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

I can't wait when you'll have to review Showgirls.

[@Blaqjaqshellaq]

How about DOLEMITE or PEARL HARBOR?

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

Everybody got AIDS and shit...

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

@@TheHeroOfTomorrow I'm from different places, and I used to love doggy chow

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

@@Blaqjaqshellaq Actually in 2002 It was Freddy Got Fingered the movie that won. And I don't want to imagine the meds Sean we'll have to take to keep his sanity after watching that... "film"

[@beethovensfidelio]

Guillermo de Baskerville Good luck reviewing it under the new COPPA laws.

[@poker8100]

I am a simple man. I see cinematic excrement. I click

[@globetrekker86]

By this movie’s logic, I should be a wisecracking wuxia master. Thanks, Monty Python and Zhang Yimou!

[@RedDeathShinigami]

Trivia: The Gestapo Guy is the german dubber for Ben Affleck The Nazi who hosts the Party voices Tommy Lee Jones and sometimes voiced Bruce Willis and the wife of the Nazi voices Jodie Foster ;) They are great actors and dubbers.

[@6ViolinRed]

I watched the film when it was on Netflix years ago. Then I read the book, and dear god, this film is such a bastardization and demolition. It does what to the World War II-female spy subgenre what George Lucas did for Red Tails.

[@chrislondo2683]

Or Michael Bay with Pearl Harbor.

[@markelijio6012]

At least, Michael Douglas kick some ass and found some success with "Basic Instinct" with Sharon Stone for Sony Pictures Studios in June 12, 1992. Dutch filmmaker Paul Verhoeven's modest box office hit was nominated for 2 Oscars in 1993.

[@MrHypnofan]

Under different circumstances, I can see a scene or even a movie about having to escape Nazi Germany without speaking German being very tense and exciting. Like the only member of a group that monolingual has to be the one that goes to border control and maybe has to surreptitiously reads clues from the rest of the group.

[@daniellavaladez7820]

At least the costumes and hairstyles were good. Very authentic to the 1940s time period. The set design and cinematography are pretty good too

[@eamonndeane587]

A Pity they're wasted on a badly directed film.

[@zombiedodge1426]

This movie is kind of like MOMMIE DEAREST without the campiness. In both films, the set and costume designers knocked it out if the park, only to be let down by awful scripts and acting.

[@GabyGeorge1996]

Last time I was this early, Disney+ wasn't a thing yet

[@captainimagination1110]

Gaby George and Nickelodeon didn't team up with Netflix.

[@Dreigonix]

8:29 Smeghead spilling two massive teapots with this segment.

[@TrueMetis]

IDK if the Swiss border thing is unrealistic. If you look at WW1 trench maps, the trenches stop at the Swiss border and both sides were very careful not to violate Swiss neutrality. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the same thing happened in WW2.

[@matthewdaley746]

I suppose, but, in the heat of a pursuit, just how realistic is them remembering that.

[@das81]

They used to air this one often on Fox latino back in the mid 90's.

[@captainimagination1110]

Ariel Popperl boy do I feel sorry for the Latino locals who had to watch this.

[@otaking3582]

Does the movie make any more sense in the Spanish dub?

[@das81]

@@otaking3582 Lol. It doesn't.

[@markelijio6012]

@@otaking3582 Bonita: Only widescreen editions such as Susan Issacs' "Shining Through" on Disney Channel Latin America in 2000 with stunning performances by Michael Douglas, Melanie Griffith, John Gielgud, Liam Neeson and Joely Richardson. Written for the screen and directed by David Seltzer of the Omen fame. A wonderful filmmaking experience.

[@JeffreyDeCristofaro]

"IMPORTANT LOOKING DOCUMENTS!" LMFAO 🤣 I guess that includes the script? Also, sad to see both Liam Neeson and Joely Richardson's talents wasted in this!

[@DatsWhatXiSaid]

That one scene of the guy speaking German suddenly is because he's yelling. Hollywood has loads of cheap and cheesy way for making villains less relatable so that audiences can look past crappy acting.

[@floraposteschild4184]

Shining Through is a great book. I hope they make a movie of it one day. Needless to say, this movie is nothing like it. Why the hell make a movie that is the popular story in name only???

[@eamonndeane587]

Netflix or Amazon Prime should make a Miniseries Adaptation of the Book.

[@floraposteschild4184]

​@@eamonndeane587 The story needs some room to breathe, definitely. But it's tricky: a comedy-drama about an average woman who ends up having heroic adventures and getting the guy. But a lot of the appeal is Linda's thoughts, and how do you show that? It may be unfilmable.

[@eamonndeane587]

@@floraposteschild4184 Voiceover Narration could work for that purpose.

[@eamonndeane587]

@@matthewdaley746 I have seen it pulled off well in some cases (e.g. The Netflix adaptation of You)

[@fralencemelograno]

I always hope that happens for “Fatherland” as well, another fine novel that made a very different film, sadly.

[@tristanhartup4936]

I've seen Terminator, RoboCop, Ex Machina, Transformers, Pacific Rim, I Robot, A.I., Iron Giant, Robots, Real Steel, Alita: Battle Angel, WALL-E, The Creator, so that must mean I'm clearly an expert on robotics.

[@theunwelcome]

it's hilarious to me that this movie uses the same flawed logic that the anti-video game crowd tries to use whenever there's a school shooting; I always ask the rhetorical question of "well, I've played Gran Turismo, Forza, several of EA's yearly NASCAR series (when it was still going), Mario Kart (take your pick, I've played 'em all), a few of the WRC games; why am I not a professional race driver yet?"

[@171QA]

Oh, you didn’t mention Armageddon in your list of space movies so of course you can’t become an astronaut. XD

[@stevenclubb7718]

I actually saw this in the theater... it was a dollar cinema and I'd watch almost anything. I don't recall this being unwatchably bad, but its a lot like her post Working Girl movies in she's required to be the smartest person in the room and this can only be achieved by making everyone else imbeciles as she spots the most obvious clues, which were mysteriously not noticed by anyone else. Another movie had her discovering a missing person by noticing (I kid you not) the large pool of blood on the ceiling tiles of an office. No one saw it or smelled the decomposing body, until Melanie used her super duper genius mind to put the clues together.

[@matthewdaley746]

A dollar cinema, you were completely ripped off!

[@fralencemelograno]

“A Stranger Among Us”? Was that the film?

[@markelijio6012]

@@fralencemelograno Oh yeah

[@zombiedodge1426]

@@markelijio6012 Directed by Sidney Lumet!

[@markelijio6012]

@@zombiedodge1426 Thank you, you're the best! And that was a Disney flick from 1992!

[@martinsorenson1055]

The Gestapo guy at 6:49 looks like both Kelsey Grammer and David Hyde Pierce rolled into one.

[@dylankaiser5546]

Sean what the hell? It’s 11pm that’s way too early

[@captainimagination1110]

Dylan Kaiser actually here in Oregon it's 9:08 at night also 11:00 in the morning isn't early 6:50 or 5:30 is.

[@dylankaiser5546]

Captain Imagination I live in New York

[@jeremyusreevu237]

How is this movie not a parody?

[@kedharswaminathan7571]

Me: Going to sleep *Sees new CE* Me: Godamnit Sean

[@JoeChillton]

This is comically stupid. No wonder Hank Pym couldn't cut it as a spy and stuck to science!

[@MissBarker93]

I've read every chapter of Black Jack that was published in English and I've seen every episode of the OVA series as well as the 2004 anime, so by this movie's logic that means I should be an expert at surgery. BTW happy (belated) 10th anniversary, Sean!

[@Jessesgirl2013]

9:27 This gets funnier every time I replay it. I think its the tiny shoulder shimmy she makes at the end. She’s really dreadful!

[@catfoy8888]

Happy belated ten year anniversary sean

[@samuelvimes5770]

just fyi: the actor at 10:24 voices Tommy Lee Jones in the german versions of his movies

[@captainimagination1110]

Samuel Vimes is the German version way better than this one?

[@fermintenava5911]

Well, here was I, hoping for hilariously bad Hollywood-german, and they actually hire German actors...

[@samuelvimes5770]

@@captainimagination1110 Everyone speaks german all the time & Griffith doesn´t sound like she´s falling asleep, the plot is still bonkers.

[@unconditionalprong]

I saw a review of Christopher Columbus: The Discovery. This should mean I should know how to explore the world and exploit other people for personal gain. Wait.

[@spiderlime]

i actually watched this movie and at the time it seemed very reasonably made.

[@matthewdaley746]

Eventually, you realized that Melanie Griffith's career was based entirely upon strategically-timed marriages, and, order was at last restored.

[@WalkmanWillWalkAllOverYou]

We're still waiting for Fifty Shades Freed Sean...

[@matthewdaley746]

Why do you want to torture yourself by watching a review of a film with the other actress in that family without talent?

[@eddiedingle767]

@@matthewdaley746 Dakota is actually great. Watch her in something where she's actually given a chance, like A Bigger Splash or the Susperia remake, hell the sitcom she was on. No one was good in the fifty shades movies, even actors we know are good

[@matthewdaley746]

@@eddiedingle767 Alas, the infamy of that franchise, plus, the prevailing wisdom that her career was achieved through nepotism, both likely, greatly hurt her from now on.

[@bradwolf07]

"Sleeping with your boss is always a good decision" haha, hilarious. I'll go to eat some strudel and make my non-existent secretary a spy

[@Skreezilla]

Germans stopping shooting at the Swiss Boarder is kind of true, the Germans were very careful to not piss the Swiss off, and the Swiss were very protective of the boarder to a point where Any Allied or Axis aircraft in their air space would be shot down by Swiss. Germany also had a fair amount of money stored in Swiss banks and did not want to cause issue there.

[@matthewdaley746]

Yeah, but, there, "might," be soldiers who, "forgot," the rules during the intense chase.

[@fralencemelograno]

And Switzerland has had victims from air bombings from the allies …

[@matthewdaley746]

@@fralencemelograno War's absolutely never precise.

[@KylieWilson]

Believe it or not , the Germans respecting the Swiss border is actually one of the few realistic parts of the movie, the Swiss are a neutral country for a reason: they were FORCED to be neutral because their army was feared by everyone. Not even the Nazis would be stupid enough to take on the Swiss Army.

[@florinivan6907]

That's a myth. If Germany wanted to strongarm the swiss all they needed to do was simply cut off supplies. Switzerland is import dependent. You cut them off from the world they'll be starving within 4 months. Look at a map of Europe circa 1942 and realise how the swiss could be starved into submission within 6 months.

[@marknewbold2583]

Ha ha

[@zombiedodge1426]

There's a German town near the Swiss border that survived WW2 mostly intact, because they didn't black out during Allied nighttime bombing raids. They gambled that the Allies would assume it was a Swiss town and leave it alone. And it worked!

[@masonallen3961]

You agree with the Razzies that this was the worst movie of 1992? So it’s worse than Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot?

[@jngr1]

That one wasn't nominated for Worst Picture (surprisingly enough). My guess is that he was keeping in the five corners of the nominees

[@christmashake8968]

Maybe. “Frozen Assets” and “Nothing But Trouble” are major contenders, too (the latter of which might be even more loony than this dreck...).

[@guillermodebaskerville7117]

@@matthewdaley746 a soundtrack made by Whitney Houston at her prime being awesome and overshadowing its underwhelming film? What a surprise

[@scipioafricanus5871]

@@christmashake8968 "Nothing But Trouble" a major contender? Now, this is fighting talk! I'll see to it that you get an appointment with Mr Bone Stripper!

[@giuseppeianniello1998]

Complete list of Razzie wins and noms for 1992 Worst Picture WINNER: Shining Through • Final Analysis • The Bodyguard • Christopher Columbus: The Discovery • Newsies Worst Actor WINNER: Sylvester Stallone - Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot • Jack Nicholson - Hoffa and Man Trouble • Tom Selleck - Folks! • Michael Douglas - Basic Instinct and Shining Through • Kevin Costner - The Bodyguard Worst Actress WINNER: Melanie Griffith - Shining Through and A Stranger Among Us • Whitney Houston - The Bodyguard • Lorraine Bracco - Medicine Man and Traces of Red • Kim Basinger - Cool World and Final Analysis • Sean Young - Love Crimes Worst Supporting Actor WINNER: Tom Selleck - Christopher Columbus: The Discovery • Danny DeVito - Batman Returns • Robert Duvall - Newsies • Alan Alda - Whispers in the Dark • Marlon Brando - Christopher Columbus: The Discovery Worst Supporting Actress WINNER: Estelle Getty - Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot • Jeanne Tripplehorn - Basic Instinct • Sean Young - Once Upon a Crime • Tracy Pollan - A Stranger Among Us • Ann-Margret - Newsies Worst Director WINNER: David Seltzer - Shining Through • Barry Levinson - Toys • John Glen - Christopher Columbus: The Discovery • Kenny Ortega - Newsies • Danny DeVito - Hoffa Worst Screenplay WINNER: Blake Snyder, William Osborne and William Davies - Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot • David Seltzer - Shining Through • Lawrence Kasdan - The Bodyguard • Wesley Strick and Robert H. Berger - Final Analysis • John Briley, Cary Bates and Mario Puzo - Christopher Columbus: The Discovery Worst New Star WINNER: Pauly Shore - Encino Man • Sharon Stone’s tribute to Theodore Cleaver - Basic Instinct • Georges Corraface - Christopher Columbus: The Discovery • Kevin Costner’s crew cut - The Bodyguard • Whitney Houston - The Bodyguard Worst Original Song WINNER: High Times, Hard Times by Alan Menken and Jack Feldman - Newsies • Queen of the Night by Whitney Houston - The Bodyguard • Book of Days by Enya - Far and Away

[@akildukes7499]

Goddammit....ive been in the hospital all day and i need to sleep....now you decide to post a new episode?! Fuck it, im all in.

[@flashrobbie]

Oh no, I've seen way too many zombie films. Is that how the infection starts?

[@captainimagination1110]

Robert Curd no this is how the world explodes from the movie's stupidity.

[@deankay8894]

the one good thing from this movie is joely richardson met liam neeson

[@eamonndeane587]

And then Joely's Sister Natasha would go to marry Liam Neeson and have two sons.

[@lukewright9031]

Woah, bleeping out the F-Bombs? I guess I'll have start getting used to it 😓

[@beethovensfidelio]

Thabale Ngulube Blame COPPA!

[@markiangooley]

I looked up the Roger Ebert review. He was slightly more gentle.

[@gageperuti5519]

Next month: Indecent Proposal, one of the least deserving Worst Picture winners ever. Much like with Rambo or Cocktail, the completely wrong film won that year. It should have been Body of Evidence, another, far worse erotic thriller.

[@matthewdaley746]

Perhaps, they thought that it simply did less with more.

[@markelijio6012]

A next year, "Indecent Proposal" with Woody Harrelson, Demi Moore and Robert Redford. Released in 1993 by Paramount Pictures, from the creators of the Oscar nominated hit, "Fatal Attraction" and they are co-producer Sherry Lansing & director Adrian Lyne. The film was an current hit and became an international success.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@markelijio6012 HIV was better, unquestionably.

[@sarahleonard7309]

When I woke up this morning and saw the notification about this video I knew it would be a good morning. My whole family was excited to sit down and watch it over breakfast.

[@scipioafricanus5871]

From other comments like this, I am pretty sure, you are supposed to see the notification right before you are set to go to bed and extra points if you have to get up early for a very important task. But you just have to click and see what steaming pile Sean has just recently viewed, so we don't have to!

[@ginnrollins211]

I've seen all of the Toxic Avenger movies, so that means I'm a horribly mutated creature of superhuman size and strength.

[@theunwelcome]

ok "go fuck an entire assortment of garden tools" just sent me

[@robotrix]

"There's a slight difference between the two...." Yeah, the real one is more plastic.

[@dvass7253]

8:44-8:56 - This Linda character is the living embodiment of the term "Dumb Luck". And given that the plot synopsis on IMDB describes her as being part Irish, I guess the "Luck" part is not that far-fetched. Either she carries a concealed four-leaf clover at all times or she has a Leprechaun (and I don't mean the Warwick Davis one) for a guardian angel.

[@matthewdaley746]

The, "dumb," part being even greater than the, "luck," part.

[@ginnrollins211]

So she's like the female Timothy Dexter.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@ginnrollins211 I hadn't even ever thought of a male even existing, true facts.

[@ryandowney8743]

"This character is ludicrously bad at everything but everything still goes her way" Would that be a Mary Trump?

[@matthewdaley746]

No, probably more likely a Melania.

[@TheRealNormanBates]

(Grampa Simpson enters and puts hat on rack. Sees comment. Grampa Simpson picks up hat and quietly leaves)

[@matthewdaley746]

@@TheRealNormanBates Thank You, for your great duty, Grampa Simpson.

[@gunmunz]

I'm a big fan of Sabaton, guess that makes me a super soldier and a master strategist.

[@sharonspears-mandeville2369]

*High five?*

[@decimusmaximus2486]

Well you're also a brony

[@zombiedodge1426]

Melanie Griffith might just be the most frequently miscast actress of all time. I don't know if this, "Bonfire of the Vanities" or "A Stranger Among Us" would have been *good* with someone else as the female lead, but there's no way the films could have been any worse. (Side note: the only major actor *not* badly miscast in "Bonfire" is Tom Hanks, in retrospect.)

[@markelijio6012]

I'm very disappointed that Melanie Griffith didn't have a good movie since 1975 but I'm having a funny feeling she's appearing a series of flops that were not been quite successful. By now she's getting to normal into the indie world where she is more comfortable and happy with herself than most Hollywood studios. However, her career has been more revitalized than ever.

[@lerm2866]

Melanie Griffin appeared in many bad movies in the 90's (Too Much, Born Yesterday). However she was awesome in Body Double and the classic Something Wild.

[@matthewdaley746]

She simply peaked way too early, the film you mentioned featured another has-been, Daryl Hannah.

[@beethovensfidelio]

Matthew Daley To be fair, Daryl Hannah’s “has-been” status is due to being blacklisted by Harvey Weinstein (though the fact that she is autistic and was so shy that she couldn’t even attend award shows or do interviews definitely didn’t help matters). However, I agree with you that Daryl Hannah (like Melanie Griffith) isn’t what I would call an “actress”. “Splash” is the only one from Daryl’s filmography where the success of that film was contingent on Daryl Hannah’s performance as Madison the mermaid. The other good films Daryl appeared in were successful IN SPITE OF HER, not because of her: “Blade Runner”, “Roxanne”, “Wall Street” (which earned Daryl a “Worst Supporting Actress” Razzie) and the two “Kill Bill” films (which were executive-produced by Weinstein). Source: www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/weighing-the-costs-of-speaking-out-about-harvey-weinstein

[@matthewdaley746]

@@beethovensfidelio Whatever happens with Weinstein, Hollywood looks like they're about to wash their hands of him.

[@beethovensfidelio]

Matthew Daley What? You mean the blood is in their hands?

[@matthewdaley746]

@@beethovensfidelio I mean he makes them no money, so, they're ready to leave him in a lonely prison cell to rot.

[@CableB_]

What's even more shocking is the audience score is 73% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[@captainimagination1110]

Cable B they must had a bizarre taste in movies back then.

[@juhaniaho6698]

Cable B Audience score quite often is higher than critical score on Rotten Tomatoes. Look at movies like Transformers, Rocky IV and Rad (an obscure BMX movie). While their critical scores are 58%, 40% and 0% respectively, their audience scores are 85%, 79% and 91%.

[@kerryann7424]

They seriously nominated Whitney Houston for worse song? The soundtrack was the only good thing about The Bodyguard.

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

If you show a strudel in the first act, you better use that strudel in the third. I think Chekov said that.

[@jeremyusreevu237]

Which Melanie Griffith movie is stupider? This, or Milk Money?

[@sonicjrjr14]

Actually disagree with your take that this deserved Worse Picture. "Stop or My Mom Will Shoot" was way more deserving and it baffles me that it wasn't even nominated.

[@florinivan6907]

This movie would have worked a lot better as a comedy satire of WW2 movies. The movie plays its stupidity straight instead of trying to go for intentional comedy.

[@brevonsflicksgames7450]

Your quest continues. Good luck with the rest.

[@MedicineMundy]

Love it! Happy 10th By the Way! **hugs**

[@Bubbleskittymaster]

That's like saying I'm a trucker because I dress like the ones in movies.

[@lukehauser1182]

One quibble - the "fake" 52-year-old Melanie looks a lot healthier that the "real" version with all the surgery 15:00

[@markelijio6012]

FUN FACT: Disney favorite Melanie Griffith looks a lot healthier than the "real" version with all the surgery. From September 1994 - present, she's now associated with Hanes Hosiery, makers of Smooth Illusions Body Contouring Pantyhose. Joining her were Tippi Hedren, Tracy Griffith, Bonita, Yancy Butler, Polly Draper, Patricia Wettig, Mel Harris, Lucy Liu, Fran Drescher, Kathryn Bigelow, Susan Seidelman as well as Lorri Bagley, Paige Brooks and more. Seen on both print ads and television commercials such as both CBC & CTV. Disclaimer: "Liposuction without surgery." Hanes Smooth Illusions Body Contouring Pantyhose. Put on 2 ounces of pantyhose. Look like you took off 5 lbs. The illusion is real. From September 12, 1985 - present, the time - honored slogan for Hanes Smooth Illusions: "It's the Way You Wear Your Hanes." TM & (c) 1985, 1994, 2023 HHI.

[@ColeYote]

"Although [Trooper] is also the name of one of the greatest metal songs of all time" Ngh, I like Iron Maiden and all but I'm not sure that one even makes my ten favourite Maiden songs.

[@LilyBannel]

Dang. Pearl Harbor had cheesy moments, Inchon had bad production and an interesting backstory, but this looks like a pain. You know it's (bad bad) when other reviewers don't cover it. Showgirls is infamously bad but this is not even rib worthy? At least, Liam Neeson will get his chance to play a better Nazi in Schindler's List. I have never heard of this movie either. What stinks is that the production looks well, the cinematography is great, the costumes are detailed and it looks competent. When a movie has bad editing or actors, I can understand but when you have a budget and still make a stinker that's when I get angry. Thank you for this review, sir.

[@1997residente]

What´s even sadder...this is the same Director of photography than Die Hard,Basic Instinct and the hunt for red october. He should have sticked at the DP chair but nope. He directed Twister,Speed 2,The haunting and Lara Croft 2.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@1997residente Plus, when he was the cinematographer for Roar, a lion attacked him, and, he needed 220 stitches on his scalp.

[@matthewdaley746]

@ It was terribly written, NO director could have saved it.

[@markelijio6012]

@@matthewdaley746 Yeah, David Seltzer could have saved the picture but he some terrible fights, according to his manager.

[@matthewdaley746]

@markelijio6012 It wasn't rescued, however.

[@KevinThePilgrim]

Been waiting a long time for this.

[@gageperuti5519]

I'm not so sure this film deserved Worst Picture, since another film released that year was Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot. In fact, it's puzzling that it wasn't nominated. It certainly deserved it more than Newsies.

[@matthewdaley746]

Considering the punching bag Sylvester Stallone had become, I, actually, rather admire their restraint.

[@LazyCat010]

This movie wishes it had 1/100th the drama or entertainment of The Trooper.

[@OleanderRainbow]

I've seen Scanners, Re-Animator and Dead Ringers. I guess that means I'm a mad doctor now.

[@cidv7447]

you need to see Young Frankenstein first...then you can gradumatate

@@cidv7447 That's FRAHNKENSTEEN.

[@jackmonaghan8477]

Ironic Liam Neeson is showing up here given 'Schindler's List' was just around the corner.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

This is Neeson's third appearance here on Cinematic Excrement, after Krull and Battleship. Clearly Sean has to review The Phantom Menace sometime! Neeson's only Razzie nom was in 2013 jointly for Battleship and Wrath of the Titans.

[@matthewdaley746]

After this trainwreck, can you blame him for wanting to be in a black-and-white film, that way, people shouldn't recognize him.

[@matthewdaley746]

@@LinkMarioSamus He should have been nominated for the Taken sequels, they clearly were made only because of the success of the original.