Cinematic Excrement: Episode 126 - Wild Wild West

[@KesselRunner606]

Kevin Smith tells a really good anecdote about the origin of the giant spider.

[@beethovensfidelio]

I’m surprised Smeghead didn’t mention that

[@claymccoy]

Yes. It's explained in detail on the documentary Superman Lives: What Happened?

[@blackjohnsnow9375]

Rip jon schnepp my good friend . We can think him for us knowing the spiders origin

[@beethovensfidelio]

@@blackjohnsnow9375 Jon Schnepp?

[@kevinkrueger7479]

Since I haven't seen it in the commentary, I'll go ahead. At the end of the whole monologue about his screenplay, it all went south with the studio. But at the end of his stage emoting, I remember the phrase; "well, what do you know, a fucking giant spider!" Watch Kevin Smith's stage show. Anyway, enjoy.

[@andu1854]

If they redid this movie, Peter Dinklage would make a great villain

[@TheSuperQuail]

other dwarves are available*

[@andu1854]

But as a good an actor as Peter?

[@JohnPatterson-kz8jr]

I called it "VILE VILE MESS"!!😂 TTooFXheavy

[@JohnPatterson-kz8jr]

​@andu1854 "Wild Wild West"*(* or as I called it "VILE VILE MESS) makes"Terror On the Prairie" look like "The Searchers" or "The Wild Bunch" by comparison!! The only really great movies adapted from TV shows were "The Fugitive"and"Get Smart"!!😅😊 Honorable mentions "Beverly Hillbillies" and"Underdog"!!😊😂

[@JohnPatterson-kz8jr]

The greatest westerns ever made are:"The Searchers:;"The Wild Bunch";"True Grit"*(*Both the original and remske);"Tombstone";"Dances With Wolves";"Unforgiven";"Outlaw Josey Wales";"High Noon";"The Hanging Tree";"The Magnificient Seven";"My Darling Clementine" and"The Wild Bunch".

[@ethal1222]

In Will Smith's defense in choosing this movie, before The Matrix, the Wachowskis weren't very well-known. Also, he had just made a huge hit (Men in Black) with Barry Sonnenfeld, the same director hired for Wild Wild West. In that context, it seemed like a safer bet.

[@DourMessor]

Whatever…

[@leewright1]

I always assumed it was a contractual obligation. Either way, it was a bit shortsighted.

[@jbvader721]

@@leewright1 And yet it only ranks 5th in the Worst Decisions Will Smith Made in His Career.

[@main_pimp_8513]

Will Smith...lol...safer bet...😆....

[@NoxAtlas]

And it's no secret that Keanu Reeves accepted a much lower payment to make sure more money could be spent on costumes and special effects. Who knows how the Matrix would have turned out without him.

[@DeetotheDubs]

"Why a spider?" He wanted a creature with *all* the legs to make up for lacking his real legs and a giant mechanical centipede would have taken forever to build.

[@DrZuluGaming]

Also, you know, it's produced by Jon Peters. This man loves his spiders so much that a version of Superman that was supposed to be written by Kevin Smith was supposed to end with Supes fighting a giant spider.

[@DeetotheDubs]

I had never heard of that. With that Smith, it could have been a fun movie. Thanks for the info.

[@michaelsinger4638]

More like Jon Peters, a producer on this film, has this weird obsession with putting spiders in his films.

[@masonallen3961]

A giant mechanical centipede would've been pretty awesome.

[@silverletter4551]

That centipede idea might have been scarier like an antithesis to the train used by the heroes.

[@KeithFraser82]

Isn't the implication that Rita didn't tell West and Gordon she was looking for her husband rather than her father so that they would think she was single and help her in the hopes of a chance of some lovin'?

[@jbvader721]

If that was the case, that's still pretty bad.

[@petrastedman669]

That was always my takeaway from it - she came off as a moron, but was smart enough to know boys will work harder if they think there's a chance you'll want the D.

[@KeithFraser82]

@@jbvader721 Agreed, it's an unfunny joke, but it explains why that reveal is there.

[@blissfulinsomniac5711]

@@petrastedman669 She didn't come off as a moron at all, actually. She just didn't have much to do in the film, and her character wasn't all that necessary...

[@Scatscar1985]

Fans (including me) of the show HATE this film. And shockingly, this was the last Western that ELMER FREAKIN' BERNSTEIN scored.

[@eamonndeane587]

That Being Said, Bernstein's Score is Easily the Best thing About this Rubbish....

[@Tornado1994]

Wild Wild West is a Guilty Pleasure. A Misfire. Yeah its not unfunny,but its not unwatchable and yeah, it IS an insult to the original cult hit 60s TV Series, but, hell its tolerable. Too bad the Script and Storyline is Terrible. Because that's pretty much what sinks the whole ship.

[@katherineheasley6196]

I know. I have fond memories of watching reruns of the show with my family when I was little. This movie disappointed me on so many levels.

[@coolnerdlll6053]

That man was a film composing legend. He deserved so much better.

[@Mandrake55]

I am a fan of the series. And I didn't hate this film. I didn't take it seriously, but I didn't hate it.

[@sirtalkalotdoolittle]

If you watch the TV versions of Star Trek, Mission Impossible and Wild Wild West, you see the same character actors cycling through and even the same extras. It's icing on the cake when watching one of those great shows.

[@zombiedodge1426]

Jeffrey Tambor got his start playing multiple one-off characters on Three's Company, plus a supporting role on the spinoff series The Ropers.

[@markiangooley]

On Mission: Impossible, I think that Elizabeth Ashley was a member of the team on an episode and a guest star (impersonated by Casey once, despite the big difference in height between her and Lynda Day George).

[@chasg3242]

Weird how Kevin Kline and Kenneth Bragnagh are in this movie and would go on to voice Miguel and Tulio in the animated cult classic The Road to El Dorado the very next year.

[@victorhernandez8723]

Tulip?

[@chasg3242]

@@victorhernandez8723 fixed it. I meant to type Tulio

[@victorhernandez8723]

@@chasg3242 I knew what you meant to spell. Spell check can be a hassle, sometimes.

[@Lauren_210]

I love El Dorado. One of my personal favorites from Dreamworks. 😊

[@beethovensfidelio]

And then Kenneth Branagh would direct Kevin Kline in Shakespeare’s “As You Like It” as Jaques.

[@TomMSTie1138]

Imagine Warwick Davis as Loveless.

[@anubusx]

That would've been awrsome.

[@markiangooley]

Yes. Too early for Peter Dinklage…

[@roberttreacy8271]

Under the right direction, Davis would’ve been an awesome Loveless.

[@demetriatorowus9735]

It's a shame this movie was crappy, the sets and costumes were so cool.

[@SuperSwordman1]

I actually like the giant spider. Just...doesn't fit here

[@zombiedodge1426]

That seems to be a running theme with Worst Picture Razzie winners. (See also: SHINING THROUGH and MOMMIE DEAREST)

[@ad-sd-vids5332]

Imagine you're the head of Warner brothers, and you get pitched this movie. Directed by Barry Sonnenfeld, who directed Men in black, starring Will Smith, the star of men in black, and Oscar winner Kevin Kline, and Oscar nominee Kenneth Branagh. produced by Jon Peters who produced best picture winner rain man. Story by Jim and John Thomas, who were the writers of predator. Screenplay by s. S. Wilson and Brent Maddock, who wrote short circuit and tremors, and also Jeffrey price and Peter S. Seaman, who wrote who framed Roger rabbit. Music by Elmer Bernstein, who composed The Ten Commandments, The Magnificent Seven, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Escape, and ghostbusters. Cinematography by Michael Ballhaus, who was nominated for an Oscar for broadcast news and the fabulous baker boys. Edited by the associate editor of the breakfast club. Would you greenlight that movie? Congratulations, you just made Wild Wild West

[@zombiedodge1426]

This is an homage to Bruce Campbell talking about CONGO, isn't it?

[@victorhernandez8723]

3:22 For those of you who are illiterate in U.S. history, Sean is talking about former U.S. president Ulysses S. Grant. President number 18, to be specific.

[@catp6946]

You should watch "The Death of 'Superman Lives': What Happened?" to get a better idea of Jon Peters, who's a producer of this movie. The documentary talks about his obsession with the giant spider. It's also a really good documentary

[@dnasty312]

He apparently has an obsession with men in drag too

[@christophersouza3159]

The fact that this movie came out 7 months after Will Smith did Enemy of the State is baffling. How do you go from an amazing Tony Scott movie to one of the biggest flops of 1999?

[@main_pimp_8513]

Because he'll literally do anything for money?..

[@xanzibar5374]

He turned down The Matrix for this, and says that was the biggest regret in his career. Everyone who worked on this movie hated it. He was a fan of the original show, which I guess makes sense to star in it.@@main_pimp_8513

[@MrChaotic4]

@@main_pimp_8513 Not anything. Like Sean said, he turned down The Matrix for this.

[@suedenim]

The giant mechanical spider is one of the only things that does work in this movie, and unlike Jon Peters' other attempts to get his spider, fits the property.

[@noahcool2841]

Fun Fact: The mechanical giant spider was originally meant for the cancelled ‘Superman Lives’ movie with Tim Burton directing and starring Nicolas Cage as Superman and in the third act, Superman was suppose to fight a giant spider, but when that movie was cancelled, producer Jon Peters (who was going to produce Superman Lives) took that idea and put it into Wild Wild West!

[@SuperMarkerComicBro]

Nick Cage as Superman fighting a giant mechanical spider? That sounds like one of the most stupidly awesome things ever. The world missed out on something wonderful.

[@orionassante3386]

Yeah, Kevin Smith talks about this in detail.

[@LinkMarioSamus]

Apparently the mechanical spider was present in early drafts of the script before Peters was attached. I think Peters even tried to talk Sonnenfeld out of including it.

[@victoriashevlin8587]

@@SuperMarkerComicBro sounds like something Elvis the Alien would die happy, having seen it.

[@marccolten9801]

I saw the documentary and the evil villain was a head on a stick. WTF was THAT about? He can't eat, drink or screw or even run his fingers through piles of gold coins. What was his plan exactly?

[@tedgruver7618]

Seriously, why couldn’t Jon Peters get that dream of Superman battling a giant mechanical spider out of his head?!😠 Fun Fact: This was not the first TV show movie adaptation that Barry Sonnenfeld directed, as he brought the Addams Family to the big screen years before.

[@TheDangerousD]

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[@anubusx]

Put it in the Snyder Cut.

[@samspurgeon4222]

"cocaine is a hell of a drug"-Rick James

[@Kosh131]

We should be grateful. Bai Ling kept her clothes on for the whole movie, unlike most of her other films from this period.

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

Fair enough, even though I hardly know who she is

[@BugsyFoga]

I honestly have a huge soft spot for this film , mainly due to me bieng a sucker for all things steampunk.

[@jbvader721]

I would say that steampunk fans deserve better than Wild Wild West.

[@Herodotus888]

Yea this movie was pretty dope when it came out.

[@Yeen125]

At least steampunk fans got Treasure Planet and Bioshock?

[@jbvader721]

@@Yeen125 Bioshock I can agree with. But, Treasure Planet...meh.

[@roberthosford1658]

That's like saying I have a soft spot for twilight because I like monster movies

[@violetedge83]

when I was in 8th grade I got a ticket to see Wild Wild West but snuck into American Pie 😂😂😂😂

[@cremetangerine82]

Smart move!

[@SnarkyMcCarthy]

I guess you were burned out on South Park, huh?

[@violetedge83]

@@SnarkyMcCarthy naw never. South Park was good but I was more curious about sex at that time in my life

[@Tornado1994]

I was 16. Working at McDonalds at the time. I didn't go see it. Nothing that summer playing in theaters was interesting to me except maybe The Iron Giant and Tarzan. I did NOT fall for the Blair Witch Project Scam, but alot of people around me did.

[@MrGared22]

When I was in 8th grade a teacher actually made the class watch a Dead Poets Society-like movie called The Emperor's Club that as it turned out starred Kevin Kline, and when I saw him first appear I said out loud "That's the Wild Wild West guy!"

[@masonallen3961]

Me listening to Sean talk about The Underground Comedy Movie: "Oh, come on. How bad could it really be?" Looks on Wikipedia and sees that the first sketch is literally titled "Supermodels Taking a Dump": "I'm sorry I ever doubted you."

[@drakkenmensch]

That brief sequence of Vince knocking off a wheelchair person's head off with a baseball bat actually rings a bell for me. I remember actually seeing a trailer (or an ad? I don't remember for sure?) and being utterly repulsed by it, thinking "this will bomb horribly." Seems like I was right.

[@fermintenava5911]

Sounds like Seth McFarlane's Cavalcade of Comedy.

[@drakkenmensch]

@@fermintenava5911 yes, except the ad I saw was for a live action movie.

[@Tornado1994]

@@fermintenava5911 But WORSE.

[@rossamon1]

I just watched the full movie on youtube. It's far worse and cringe worthy than he described. DO NOT WATCH IT.

[@globetrekker86]

Oh, the Covid outside is frightful. But Smeghead’s rants are so delightful. With 2020 almost gone, Gives us Sean, give us Sean, give us Sean.

[@origamipein18]

Nailed it. 😄

[@isdrakon9802]

This aged so well

[@psychoabattoirhorror]

Jon Peters produced this film and the spider was his idea. He was the producer of the never made Nic Cage/Tim Burton Superman film and wanted a giant spider in that. peters is a nutter

[@kclink1579]

For some reason it feel like the last CE was a year ago.

[@thecinematicmind]

The Razzie Award for Worst Actress for the Blair Witch Project still pisses me off to this day.

[@gSlover4reel]

They screwed the pooch on all those nominations for this movie.

[@JustinCoasters]

Britney Spears won a Razzie for an interview in Fahrenheit 9/11. What does that tell you about the Razzies

[@tiffany-chan1235]

Heck, I'm not the biggest fan of the film but gotta admit it has some surprisingly great acting

[@Tornado1994]

Not me. BWP sucks. Its not scary, or interesting. And Heather Donahue is NOT an actress.

[@thecinematicmind]

@@Tornado1994 Still better than Parasnormal Activity anyday for me.

[@andrewollmann304]

I’m gonna need a “FOUR! GROWN-ASS! MEN” shirt from you, Sean. That is such a great line.

[@fermintenava5911]

I have to admit: I like the mechanical spider. It's a fascinating piece of engineering. Too bad the movie surrounding it wasn't more interesting.

[@Hewylewis]

I used to be obsessed with this movie as a kid, but now that I'm older, it's... Meh. However, i ADORE Elmer Bernstein's musical score for the movie.

[@isdrakon9802]

It's incredibly stupid, that's why I love it

[@eddiedingle767]

Lovelace might not be obsessed with spiders, but producer Jon Peters is, especially the giant robotic mechanical kind. And to think, we could have gotten a Nicholas Cage Superman movie, directed by Kevin Smith, but Kevin Smith didn't want to do the giant mechanical spider that Jon Peters wanted. So we got this instead

[@TomMSTie1138]

The spider is the deadliest creature in the animal kingdom.

[@GabyGeorge1996]

TomMSTie1138 no, according to peters it’s the deadliest creature in the insect kingdom

[@creed8712]

@@GabyGeorge1996 he said both the spider and the polar bear are the deadliest creatures

[@marccolten9801]

You're old because you graduated high school in 1999? I graduated in 1967. By 1999 I was retired and divorced. So cram it.

[@marccolten9801]

@Steve A My company offered early retirement. They called it a plea bargain but potato/potatoe.

[@oliviadoyle3623]

Everyone feels old because they're the oldest they've ever been.

[@1987MartinT]

Dr. Loveless from the TV series is seriously an amazing villain.

[@wstine79]

1999 was definitely not a good year for British actors playing villains in Blockbuster films in the summer. Along with Kenneth Branagh in Wild Wild West, there was Rupert Everett in Inspector Gadget and Helen Mirren in Teaching Mrs. Tingle.

[@matthewdaley746]

Helen Mirren knows better, what I want to know is how they, somehow, also, got Vivica A. Fox, I'm suspecting that there was much blackmail involved.

[@KylieWilson]

Oh shit I forgot about Inspector Gadget, how was that not nominated?!

[@matthewdaley746]

@@KylieWilson Near as I can figure, they wanted to punish Will Smith, he was too successful for their liking, and, Inspector Gadget just wouldn't have won, anyway.

[@Tornado1994]

Why the HELL didn't Inspector Gadget win Worst Picture????? That Film was FUCKING awful.

[@Tornado1994]

@@matthewdaley746 Inspector Gadget '99 was ATROCIOUS. The absolute WORST film of 1999. My Mom and I rented it back in April of 2000. We shut it off after 45 minutes, 'Nuff said.

[@danielx7609]

Legend has it that a big part of why this movie grossed as much as it did, is because teenagers would take advantage of its PG-13 rating by purchasing tickets to it, only to sneak into the R-rated South Park movie, which opened on the same day.

[@briancorvello3620]

I gotta confess, I kinda liked this movie when I saw it. Kind of a "so bad it's good" movie that's okay if you watch it expecting a silly farce.

[@MrCarlosandres94]

Actually, the spider was a contractual obligation from part of one of the original producers.

[@54GodzillaFan]

Also, the reason why the confederate general has a trumpet stucking out of his ear is because it is what was called an ear trumpet. It was a very early version of a hearing aid that was used by deaf people in the 1800s, but it was typically just a flared cone with a small hole at one end that a deaf person would hold to their ear.

[@1997residente]

It surprises me how 50% of the film is super dull and 50% is annoyingly Sexual. It's like they were trying to make Ghostbusters. (Also that giant spider dude...don't let hairdressers become film producers)

[@tristanhartup4936]

It always bothered me realising just how bizarrely horny this movie is, it takes any and all oppertunities to creepily lear at any female character that appears on screen and crack a whole bunch of unfunny sex jokes. Even more bothering considering that I used to watch this movie a lot when I was very young.

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

I like this movie. It’s dumb. REALLY dumb. But God help me, it’s enjoyable.

[@captainimagination1110]

TheHeroOfTomorrow have you thought of doing a cartoons to crap of Disney Channel's live action Kim Possible movie from 2019.

[@OakViewFilms]

You’re not alone. It’s one of my big guilty pleasures too. Any movie with steampunk in it gets my attention.

[@Hewylewis]

I LOVE the Elmer Bernstein score! :D

[@TheHeroOfTomorrow]

@@captainimagination1110 Stop requesting things every time I leave a goddamn comment on a video, sheesh.

[@spacedinosaur8733]

Love the steam-punk spider/war-machine.

[@grapeshot]

Yeah the Secret Service original purpose was to go after counterfeiters.

[@GabyGeorge1996]

Seriously?

[@cremetangerine82]

@@GabyGeorge1996 Yep, not protecting the first POTUS from being assassinated!

[@cremetangerine82]

@@matthewdaley746 There was no POTUS protection from the Secret Service until 1901; that seems short-sighted after three presidents were assassinated.

[@cremetangerine82]

@@matthewdaley746 Fortunately, that tragedy changed that so presidential candidates get Secret Service protection.

[@cremetangerine82]

@@matthewdaley746 It’s guaranteed now, which is necessary.

[@kobemarion1137]

Wow, I was JUST thinking yesterday "Haven't heard from Sean lately" (Other than Twitter 100 times a day, lol)

[@andysorensen1737]

I don’t know what’s crazier: Shamwow guy making a movie that they dragged Michael Clarke Duncan, rest his soul, into this.

[@FreeNintendo21]

Love coming back to these reviews. To this day, Mr. Smeghead, you are my favorite movie critic on the internet.

[@NebLleb]

Yeah! Huh! Wicky Wild Wild- Wicky Wild Wild- Wicky wicky wild Wicky wild- Wicky wicky- *WILD WILD WEST.*

[@LevitatingCups]

Jim west, desperado, then we forget the lyrics

[@zombiedodge1426]

WILD WILD WEST and XANADU are the only smash hit title songs from flop movies that I know about off the top of my head.

[@john_blues]

Wild Wild West over Baby Geniuses? I'm beginning to question the validity of the Razzies.

[@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout]

Say what you will about this movie, but M. Emmet Walsh is a goddamn treasure of a character actor.

[@rabbitcarrot651]

I agree. One of his best performances is in an ep of the XFiles. He had no time to prepare (he was filling in because Darren McGavin, the guy who was supposed to play the character, had a heart attack and had to give up the role) but he knocked it out of the park.

[@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout]

@@rabbitcarrot651 He replaced the Old Man?

[@victoriashevlin8587]

@@rabbitcarrot651 which episode was that?

[@roberttreacy8271]

May he RIP. He deserved better than this movie and Christmas With the Kranks.

[@SM-BSW]

I remember when this movie came out! I graduated high school in 2000, so I shake my cane at you youngsters as well!

[@weirdkitty07]

The producer was trying to get a Superman movie made with a giant mechanical spider, because superman being a bad mo fo would fight one according to the producer. Kevin Smith then saw Wild Wild est a year or so later. There's the freaking spider! Kevin Smith mentioned the whole story on Evening with Kevin Smith, and on the Superman special.

[@ArchiveIt]

Wild Wild West is bad but Baby Geniuses was much more painful to sit through.

[@anikmonette2140]

A good visual gag would be to have another actor perform when Kline is disguised as a woman, so when he's find out or just removing his wig he would just reverts back to his usual self. And it would make sense that almost everyone won't notice because he's that good at disguising himself.

[@ConnorNotyerbidness]

Why a giant spider? Well apparently someone hasnt seen Kevin Smith talk about his work on Superman Lives "I want a giant spider in the 3rd act"

[@brad_hensil]

Sean, not to be rude, but the blu-ray version of The Matrix (specifically the first film) is kind of a waste of money . That version is infamous for being digitally color grated greener than the films original theatrical release and the DVD release (You can find comparison of frames from the blu-ray with the same frames from 35mm theatrical prints online showing their differences) to the point that the movie looked nothing like its original release (or how I say it, printed on a dollar bill). On the plus side, the 4k blu-ray is a far better version since Warner Bros. made no alterations to the film outside of a digital restoration to the original negative (they had to for a film that was almost 20 years old).

[@steakcrust558]

best part of the movie was Burger King introducing the Rodeo Burger

[@billymountiii5788]

This movie is the reason why Will Smith turned down the role of Neo in The Matrix

[@andysorensen1737]

We all make mistakes, some more costly than others.

[@erichfiedler1481]

@@andysorensen1737 it's kinda funny how a few episodes ago he talked about Will Smith's powerful performance in Fresh Prince of Bel Air during his review of Showgirls, and now he's gotta talk about the guy's low points

[@1997residente]

He made a youtube video about it He said that after Independence day, he didn't want to be "The sci fi guy" and he choose Men in black because Spielberg told him to. As for Wild Wild west, well, a western wouldn't be a terrible idea to eliminate typecasting...despite it sucked.

[@andysorensen1737]

@@1997residente I can respect not only the logic for why Will did it but also owning up to it.

[@trika91]

He did the same with ‘Django Unchained’. Taratino asked him first, but he turned down to role (for whatever reason I forget), so Jamie Fox was requested and accepted the role.

[@littlejimmy7402]

I went to the drive-in theater to see "Wild Wild West". I woke up in a swap-meet.

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

Fun fact: During WWW's Theatrical run, there was reportedly a group of kids in theaters who bought tickets for this,only to then sneak into showings of South Park: BLAU. Yes,that's how little people wanted to see this back then Also unfun fact for TUCM: Vince later made a successor to the movie called "InAPPropriate Comedy", which according to Wikipedia (because I'm not watching that), it was basically the same gross humor but with a framing device of Vince pulling up apps on his phone (get it?)

[@LuckyPunkProd]

At least they snuck into a comedy masterpiece than seeing a comedic travesty.

[@erichfiedler1481]

Smart kids, life imitating art, kinda

[@melenatorr]

I was alive but really young when the tv show first ran. My parents watched it and enjoyed it, especially Ross Martin, who I later grew to appreciate. At the time, I remember looking forward to the short animated sequences between the acts, and liking the beginning credits, also animated. Michael Dunn was a wonderful actor; I cried when reading about his death.

[@davidroosa4561]

the wild wild west was the first color tv show we got at my house when i was a kid

[@KylieWilson]

I’m wondering since you’ll most likely skip to Freddy Got Fingered as you’ve already reviewed Battlefield Earth, is there any chance you could at least give a brief mention as to whether you think BE deserved to win Worst Picture in 2000?

[@LinkMarioSamus]

Maybe he'll review How the Grinch Stole Christmas?

[@DeathBYDesign666]

As bad as it is, it is fun to watch how cringe it actually is. The effects are terrible for the time, the acting is way over the top and the editing is weird as hell. It's also weird that it was basically a passion project and tribute to LR Hubbard by John Travolta. But hey these are scientologists we're talking about, of course it's gonna be beyond bizarre.

[@benmasta5814]

The giant spider would be so easily destroyed by cannonfire on one of the legs. Sure it would be powerful, but hiding some cannons on the route it would be walking would be more than enough to take it down. Looks pretty dependent on having all 8 legs working. All that time, effort, and money to create a giant spider that would be dangerous for about a week.

[@victorhernandez8723]

19:26 A better insult would be “steam junk”.

[@nathanforester5993]

Salma Hayek is the queen of my heart, and she definitely deserved better than this. Also so THAT's where the giant robot spider that was oging to be in Superman Lives ended up, and also I definitely remember South Park referencing the movie specifically Cartman playing with his toys.

[@eamonndeane587]

And unfortunately she would get worse from Harvey Weinstein sexually harrassing her during the production of Frida.

[@kamiamaya]

"He's like Elon Musk except somehow douchier." Thomas Edison then? lol Ok but, as much as I hate this movie, Sir Kenneth Branagh is so good. I don't know if he realized how shit the movie was going to be and decided to ham it up, but I love it. The only reason why I would consider watching this again.

[@doctabaldhead]

Blair Witch was pretty clearly just there for Razzie contrarian points.

[@mikesanders8621]

I unironically love this dumb movie

[@egregious3666]

Ah, so late to Cinematic Excrement. I did enjoy original Wild Wild West, but I enjoyed the chemistry between the stars, and their quick repartee.

[@claytoncondo3460]

23:31 Sean’s mini review of The Underground Comedy Movie

[@roberttreacy8271]

Fun fact: Although a box-office flop in the U.S. (it managed to make a profit internationally), it’s commonly joked that the only reason this film made any money at all is because unaccompanied minors bought tickets to this movie, then used them to sneak into screenings of American Pie and South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut.

[@krismckasson]

That's not accurate. Reported production budgets from Hollywood don't include promotional costs.

[@chrisandrew7577]

I'm glad smith was not in the matrix The movie benefitted from being a lesser known cast. Smith would have looked like "will smith" the whole movie to me

[@diojiwoolf]

Bru, it's not a trumpet on the guys ear it's a hearing horn! An old timey hearing aide often used by veterans because the noise from canons and muskets would permanently damage their hearing.

[@Hewylewis]

7:48 I can answer your questions. 1. The collars snapped on, they didn't squeeze their heads through them. 2. The reason they attract to each other is because Gordon bashes Jim'swith a rock, magnetizing both their collars together.

[@jalex.musica]

I have been looking forward to this review since you started reviewing the Worst Picture winners! And I just graduated today! Perfect timing!

[@filmunion8194]

Peter Dinkage should be Lovelace in the remake

[@cg167]

I saw "Wild Wild West" with two older teenage girls in Bellingham, Washington when one of their moms insisted she bring me along. And it ended with a drawn-out dance sequence. Not my best memory. I also graduated high school in 99.

[@lukehauser1182]

Great review - appreciate the detailed critiques of various aspects of the production

[@khylerbane4523]

The greatest irony is that this is probably the greatest depiction of steampunk in all of cinema.

[@ricardo18alegre]

I’m glad I found this channel again. Thanks for still being one of the best youtubers.

[@janeyrevanescence12]

Will Smith also took the role because he was a huge fan of the original show. I honestly feel kind of bad for him. Imagine finding out that the dream role you had would turn out to be this mess.

[@GhostChild191]

The mechanical spider was the only thing I remembered from this film

[@anubusx]

Put it in the Snyder Cut.

[@EarthenDam]

The best defense against a 1860’s giant mechanical spider is wait for it to breakdown or collapse under it’s own weight in about 5 minutes max.

[@paveladamek3502]

I know it is basically sci-fi and fiction but still in the human 19th century, and the know-how in medicine was not advanced enough for the villain to survive. Neurosurgery simply did not exist, regardless of the mad scientist inventions you see in the movie.

[@funcoolfunfun]

That whole Old Man voice was hilarious.

[@ezio_Winchester]

Kevin Smith almost got roped into filming something like this.. when he went to direct a superman movie starring nic cage as superman that never happened apparently the same guy I forget his name that was a producer or whatever for this movie wanted Kevin Smith to make superman fight a big mechanical spider. The superman movie never happened but the spider did

[@jamminjohn]

TNOT Brain in season 2 of WWW had a villain who used a steam powered wheelchair.

[@lightyearpig12]

I think the trumpet in Ear-Horn's ear is supposed to be some kind of hearing aid.

[@charismaticcreature7875]

They really existed, only they were not FUSED to your ear -- just something you held up to your ear.

[@peterlane1391]

I have a theory that the original script for this came out as a very dark civil war drama, and the studio mandated the comedic elements be added later. That would explain the tonal problems. Because if you strip out the comedy, what's left is a story about a Southern inventor who gave everything to the war only to be betrayed versus a Black army captain seeking revenge for the slaughter of a town of free Blacks.

[@jyesucevitz]

you didn't have to go old man voice. a 40yo voice can still explain ancient 90's tech and still sound convincing like you were there. .

[@jorgea8518]

I honestly think Baby Geniuses should have won worst movie of 1999, that movie is a crime against humanity. Wild Wild West was bad, but at least they tried and it had potential to be a good movie if they knew what they were doing, I cannot say the same about Baby Geniuses. I never saw the underground comedy (and I'll probably never will), but it seems like a very obscure film that hardly even matters, so I will still go with Baby Geniuses.

[@liampatrick3110]

12:32 To quote Joker from Batman TAS, "If you have to EXPLAIN the joke, then there is no joke!!"

[@ericcarabetta1161]

I'm apparently in the minority here but I love this movie. I have no attachment to the old show, it means nothing to me, so I just see this as a fun action movie with a great cast. Sure a lot of the plot doesn't really make sense but who cares, it's still enjoyable to watch.

[@realgar286]

Raspberries and flipping the bird. My new greeting for the holidays with the family.

[@thefantasticretroreviewer3941]

Even Quick Draw McGraw would be ashamed of this

[@brianburton1843]

Redfacing is spoofed in "Blazing Saddles". Mel Brooks, a Jew, plays the Indian cheif speaking Yiddish.

[@anubusx]

Mongo only pawn in game of life.

[@AriesVixxen]

Fun fact: the reason there were so many spider's in the movie was because the director of the movie loved spider's. I honestly loved this film as a teen and laughed my ass of at most of it and I loved the tv show it was loosely based on. This holds a special place in my heart ❤️ also I love your channel!! 💕

[@SA-zoom1]

This film is endlessly annoying and wastes a very talented cast

[@louisduarte8763]

This guy's only 4 years older than me and he's been at this for 10 years? Now I feel old and lazy! But I like "Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick!" so much, I'm using it. Always good to see a new one of these pop up! Keep it up!

[@paulware4701]

TV in the sixties did feature Native Americans in appropriate roles when they could, but the number of Native American actors at the time was extremely small; often Mexican actors would play such roles, or actors of Latin descent. If you were watching TV in the sixties, you took this for granted, and quite a few white American actors who had a "craggy" or "moody" appearance were believed by some viewers to actually be Native Americans (especially when these programmes were shown in the UK). And don't forget, TV shows are made under incredibly time constraints, so when guys turn up at the audition who look like they can do the part, they get the part. It's not about making decisions for artistic reasons, but for pragmatic ones.

[@ChuckD008]

God bless Jon Peters finally getting his stoopid fuckin giant spider idea in this.

[@OpinionsNoOneCaresAbout]

It was a spider because Jon Peters, who was an executive producer, was developing a Superman movie before this one and wanted Superman to fight a giant spider in the third act. But that movie never got made, so that awesome idea had to go somewhere...

[@weirdkitty07]

What dirt did they have on Kenneth Bragnah to be in this?

[@GodsElmtree]

This was one of my favorite movies as a kid. Rewatching it now as an adult, I can admit it's not great, but I still really enjoy it. It's a guilty pleasure for me. I also like it better than The Matrix, which I find to be overrated. Dark City did it better.