Civ 6 | PANIC! The WORST Start Of A Game In Months? HELP! - (#1 Deity Mali Civilization VI)

[@Bezlonirslair]

Well, it will be that much more satisfying to see you pull out that difficult start. I do admire Ursa's pluck as a player. When I get a start like this, I just exit game. But that's why I'm nowhere near the player.

[@jhtrq1465]

Same for me

[@UrsaRyan]

Never give up, not one step back!

[@drdumpenstein4868]

I've started to appreciate slow starts a lot more since watching this and other series. Sometimes you get 4 cities by turn 25 and sometimes you get 1 by turn 75, but it ultimately doesn't matter because you are going to make better decisions more often than the AI and find a satisfying way to make it happen. I find that unless you rig the map that the game rarely gives you ideal situations (nice look at that plus 5 X...oh wait I've been double forward settled). You've got to make it work, and it is very satisfying when it does

[@UrsaRyan]

Exactly this!!! That's why the late game is amazing - you can do SO much more late game per turn than early game. Stick in, if you're alive at turn 175, you can still win!!

[@trumplover3676]

@@UrsaRyan If I know its hopeless at turn 75, 100 more turns trying to save it is the opposite of fun.

[@Xaphe23]

Mansa Musa is one of my favorite leaders to play. Excited to watch a series with him

[@UrsaRyan]

Loved playing this one!

[@Krishnath.Dragon]

In today's episode, it's all about the money. But it apparently does not exactly go as planned. After the bear explains some things we begin, and get introduced to Mali, and the game gets explained. A plan is formed and a city is founded on mercury, that can't be safe, then Kilimanjaro is discovered, and Zanzibar shortly after. Then a Barbarian Clan is discovered, which provides Warriors for hire. Both Valetta and Jerusalem then makes themselves known, alas Mali is not the first to discover the red city state. A tribal village provides additional population for Niani, which is growing rapidly, a decision is made to limit its growth. Then Mali meets Hungary, uh-oh, after Matthias denounces Mali, Korea is met which is less bad. Hungary goes right for Niani, and declare war. Hungary loses multiple units attacking Mali across the river and through the marshes. Mali selects City Patron Goddess as their pantheon, as the next wave of Hungarian troops march towards Niani. A source of Horse is discovered as Hungary continue to send soldiers into the meat grinder that is Malian lands. Another Barbarian Clan is met, and Singarpore shortly afterwards. A Barbarian spearman is recruited, and the Malian scout takes the camp just afterwards, discovering Vesuvius in the process. Hungary regrets forward settling and then declaring war on Mali, losing a city in the process before suing for peace. The Niani holy site gets finished, and the city immediately begins doing holy site prayer projects to try and force through a religion. Canada introduces themselves to Mali, as Korea starts to menace the borders. Mali enters an unfortunate Dark Age, as Korea declares a surprise war on them, which leads to the discovery of Hattusa. Korea loses two units in rapid succession, and their remaining troops flee after being heavily wounded. Canada proves they are lovely as always and accept a friendship with Mali, and the first mine gets built in Niani. Mali learns that they sadly lack Iron, but on the other hand, they slowly but surely press Korea back to their own lands. Mali builds their first Caravan and sends it to Hungary. Some clever pillagin leads to not one, but two envoys getting recruited in short order. Amani gets sent to Valetta, while Pingala is put in Niani to help boost science and culture yields a little. Political philosophy gets discovered, and Mali picks their first government. After picking their policies, they send envoys to Valetta to head off Amani. Mali builds their first, of hopefully many, Sugubas, getting a well needed economic boost. Korea continues to get their lands pillaged by Mali, and suffering from decision paralysis allows the Malian troops to run rampant in their lands. Is Ursa mad as a hatter? Is it because he settled on Mercury? Will Mali recover and manage a win? Is it desert or a dessert? Turn in next episode, same Ursa time, same Ursa channel!

[@medio-litro]

Bru

[@UrsaRyan]

I truely love these

[@Krishnath.Dragon]

@@UrsaRyan Thank you. :)

[@denisem.1042]

Best laid plans. Then Hungary appears. I love the way this game makes your great plan go out the window in one turn.

[@UrsaRyan]

They were Hungary for my lands = (

[@JuniperBoy]

Mansa Musa is a really fun play, but getting through the early game can be a real challenge. Especially if you've got an aggressive neighbour right on your doorstep!

[@venisontron]

and the opposite is also true: If you spawn right next to Mansa Musa, you can just rush him

[@salty_tech]

Korea: we must progress therefore our academic community has a special place - a university. Mali: we must progress, Chief. how about we use wheels? remember chariots? the *wheel*chairs? we can have our ones!

[@UrsaRyan]

😂

[@widgetb]

Whenever I plan to have a certain type of game, I find I end up with the exact opposite map set up. It's like Sid knows! lol Glad it happens to us all. This is looking like a great game ahead, even if it wasn't the one you planned.

[@carl4889]

Future Ursa sounds like the antagonist of a dark sci-fi graphic novel.

[@ber7129at]

Per your intro to the game, not the video, I love that idea, a series where you try to become better at CIV. Fantastic idea. Would love to see this more fleshed out!

[@FlavarOlonar]

Nice i could learn more about mali. Nice to see another series on normal deity

[@UrsaRyan]

Stick with the series, it gets pretty awesome with Mali eventually!

[@widgetb]

Oooo mysterious foreshadowing to start the series!

[@magtheidio]

That is what I like with your gameplay : adaptability. Gg wp.

[@UrsaRyan]

It pays off later XD

[@ProtonCannon]

Oh Mali! My old friend... The memories. Such a different Civ from the standard weak at the start. But such an incredible potential and such an end game powerhouse. Mali actually works very well with barb clans mode.

[@Goldberg070]

An idea for an attempt: Egypt on a map full of rivers marsh and floodplains on Apocalypse mode to see how crazy floods can make the yields if you're not be damaged by them. :)

[@wvman2374]

I find best start with Mali is to tech mining first and build a builder first. Then build your mines which will give you gold income to buy your scouts and slingers and builders.

[@TheBreadPirate]

This is my first time watching your channel, and I love your commentary. You are so articulate!!

[@UrsaRyan]

Hey! Glad you like it, thanks for stopping by!

[@willmetcalf8681]

"Wow, that looks like a lot of fun- I should do a game like that!" -Me, when there are already a thousand games I'd like to try already but haven't gotten around to

[@UrsaRyan]

This is the true way to play!! XD

[@ladychaos6]

Just as I was thinking to myself after the last series "I should probably do other things with my days besides watch UrsaRyan" you post playing my favorite Civ... Huzzah!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah! Fun fact, you can watch me while you sleep! XD

[@omegafinisher845]

I also recently had a game where, as Mansa Musa, I was early warred by the ai. Interesting coincidence

[@MrMolova]

Genuinely looking forward to how this is gonna unfold.

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@Zak6959]

It’s always darkest before the dawn.

[@LootbugEnthusiast]

Banger Vids as always, Keep it up Ursa!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@Sam-lr9oi]

reaching in the back of my cupboard (fridge) and having a biscuit (beer)

[@chester__83]

ursa sending me to the kitchen to get cookies made me stop my hand reaching for the mouth. with the lemon cake on it. got me! and for the algorithm!

[@UrsaRyan]

Hehehe

[@ryanrobins7526]

If you'd delayed archery by two turns, you'd have had a second slinger with the gold to promote them both to archers a turn later

[@cptfwiffo]

just... a little.... bit..... more.... 700 subs. Come on Ursa!

[@UrsaRyan]

😁

[@wifeofanacrobat3654]

Regarding challenges - i may suggest 'Yes-man' challenge to try, if you not yet tried it. Conditions are following: - you can not initiate any diplomatic iteraction with AI - you should agree to any proposition(war, peace etc.) and trade deals from AI and support all special congressc alls and emergencies where you are involved

[@jhtrq1465]

I think he already done it some time ago, with England IIRC

[@UrsaRyan]

I did indeed! Was hilarious

[@portland573]

Time to binge another series. This one looks good.

[@bambipickle]

"it's not dirt, korea, it's desert" had me spitting my drink

[@UrsaRyan]

Haha

[@flawles3893]

"Let's get going" "And now, for an important update" I'm really curious how this game is going to turn out

[@MFD8724]

I understand this pain. This is what always happens to me when I play Mali on deity. The early game is a brutal slog that often ends in defeat. Not getting the religion is when I throw in the towel and try again.

[@UrsaRyan]

Keep at it I say - this map is proof of why!!

[@IvanDogovich]

Always loads of fun to try to fend off a double AI attack with Mali. Its fine. Nothing to see here. Cheers, Ivan ;D

[@bonniedan123mc]

Normal brain: Hard researches Archery Smart Brain: Kills a barbarian with a slinger to get Archery boost Galaxy Brain: *Gets declared a surprise war and kills enemies with slinger to get boost, while getting boost for Defensive Tactics on the side*

[@UrsaRyan]

Being picked on has never been so useful!

[@BearusAurelius]

How does Ursa know about my Biscuit stash?! I am shook.

[@UrsaRyan]

I might have shared it

[@max270899]

brilliant video

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@jhtrq1465]

Whoa! what an awful start you got there, tiny desert, no 2/2, Hungary and Korea as first neighbour and "sUrpRisE" wars from the 2. And probably no religion either. I'm really impressed that you play it. For me that's instant restart, Mali is already an difficult civ to start when you get a decent start, dealing with early Deity agression is quite a tough challenge!

[@SquireThomas]

This game is actually an excellent example of why some people seriously overrate Mali. Yes, if they get going their snowball is awesome, but their early game is just awful and on higher difficulties that really hurts. Ursa would be substantially better off right now if he were playing a Civ with literally no abilities.

[@jhtrq1465]

@@SquireThomas I think the new leader for Mali make it a tiny bit better. It's still a slow start, but once you get your theater square running and some great works, you get some good yields ( prod, gold and faith from books)

[@UrsaRyan]

Trust me though, this start is an example as to why you need to follow through and play these sorts of starts - this turns into one of my strongest EVER runs with Mali!

[@Jusdro]

Wow I can’t believe that Korea just let you pillage that much! Really made up for Hungary derailing your opening turns

[@UrsaRyan]

Revenge time!

[@konan102102]

Today is a Donut Day in Poland. You convinced me to grab another one. They are so tasty!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@Kyuutai]

What a painful game. I would have gone for Kilimanjaro as the second city, and settled the desert city later.

[@UrsaRyan]

Hungary won't let us wait for that city though!

[@pastiebros]

50k, 50k!!! Can’t wait to see what Gilgabro, Paul, and the crabs do when Ursa Bear arrives at ********** university. I mean Sankore

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@lologramme4425]

I would think that settle 2 turnd later but being close to 4 tiles of desert make it worth it!

[@an0nym273]

Maybe a Khmer Series in the Near Future? Love u Ursa!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah! Maybe XD

[@mariocolantonio1943]

Sooooo, IMHO there's a small chance Ursa, given the circumstances, could apply some of the least used strategy ever used with mali, but nonetheless really effective: aggressive Mali spamming Mandekalu cavalry out of nowhere to pillage and ransacking every time of this damned world, and meanwhile actually protect your trade route direct to city state from evil opponent🎉🎉🎉

[@UrsaRyan]

Hold that thought

[@venisontron]

I feel like our friend Ursa is struggling with the Mali meta

[@UrsaRyan]

For now, but not for long = )

[@garycross4893]

Thank you for skipping the trades that compensate for the higher play level. Might as well turn it down to Emperor or King and not exploit the AI for the same challenge level... and more fun IMHO. You saw this and are now playing Deity without using AI exploits to undo the Deity advantages. This will be GREAT to see!!

[@theApe-X]

Campus on the sheep next to Valetta

[@t_xxic8814]

800 more to go :D

[@UrsaRyan]

😁

[@lolwhatidk]

a truly cursed start

[@UrsaRyan]

send help

[@StayCoolKeto]

*future ursa from the future lol Nice game so far* 👍💪

[@FARBerserker]

at least all of those city states and AI mean there will be no barbarians around

[@mimicbox3]

Have you seen the civ 5 skin visual mod? Potential good for a special series

[@UrsaRyan]

I have! It's very dark XD

[@bobby_hmm]

19:29 Was that ALan Partridge possessing you?

[@UrsaRyan]

CRACKING owl sanctuary if I don't say so myself

[@nickl2860]

No iron for you, Ursa! Civ 6 did not feel your gratefulness in your previous run for all those iron deposits.

[@petersteiman2443]

Only pretty reliably? When was the last time you lost on Deity? I remember one with Deity++, but regular Deity? It must’ve been years since you’ve lost.

[@UrsaRyan]

Yeah it's been a while! Normally it's a TSL start

[@penknight8532]

You got lucky that Hungary didn't Suzerain and Levy a CS.

[@UrsaRyan]

very!!

[@loukas249]

Early bears huzzah!!!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@alexandergolcher6576]

Huzzah!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@0cch10]

Husseaaahh🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@semi.conscious]

Early ish bears!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@jacobdhall]

EARLY BEAR POWER!!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@BenvanAssema]

🖖

[@jackboehm8408]

PANIC! The Worst Start Of A Game In Months? Is honestly my favorite one man emo band out of the U.K

[@UrsaRyan]

Fab band XD

[@mattp1186]

don't settle on resources and mali gets benefit from desert. he makes lots of money on mines. I would settle on the grassland

[@Deamon93IT]

I mean this start is pretty much as bad as your last Rome one, and there you pulled it off. As such I'm a hopeful bear, huzzah!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@luisgutierrez8047]

City patron godess does NOTHING for mali. Subugas are already half prize. They can be chopped out with 1.5 chops (one woods one rainforest-doesnt get better than that). Mali wants to have them up ASAP (the turn you settle the city) Bonus production doesnt carry over. You were better off with lady of reeds and marshes. That +4 production early game would have been HUGE. Heck free builder and 10% growth boost would have been better. Also should have settled on other side of marshes to get lady of reeds pantheon fast and later boosted up your traders furher thanks to having more desert tiles. Also...the -30% affects BUILDINGS not districts. Kudos on relifous community tho. Severely underrated for trade civs

[@UrsaRyan]

Keep watching the series - you'll see why sometimes losing some early game speed can give you huge mid game benefits! Also chops do carry over in some cases - you'll see that in this series =)

[@luisgutierrez8047]

@@UrsaRyan i literally just played a mali game where i had 2 cities at turn 60. Turn 100 im at 20 cities with AI mad at me for continuously breaking settler promise and loyalty pressuring them out...I KNOW about how good delaying can be. And im telling you...this ain't it chief 🫡

[@luisgutierrez8047]

@@UrsaRyan There are NICHE use cases for it. Mainly abusing the "if theres NO SPECIALTY district already built" .rome and Vietnam can abuse this as they have a district thats REALLY good to build b4 your specialty one that gets boosted. Germany another great use cass as he can go back and forth between two districts turn he settles, plus the aqueduct. Khmer to lesser extent as he greatly benefits from aqueducts and extra production is nice but really competes with river goddess. Spain, aztec and egypt also get boosts to building districts so this is nice. But mali is just not one of these civs that has good synergy with this pantheon.

[@Darth_Pig]

How about start a new China series to celebrate the Chinese new year? 🎆🎆🎆

[@UrsaRyan]

Coincidently...!

[@tylert2413]

🐻🐻‍❄🧸

[@OsmaBinLaggin24]

Civ 6 multiplayer sucks. Don’t torture yourself!! Make the trades Ursa !!! 😭😭

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@Ghostrander]

Shoulda gave up on that religion a long time ago

[@UrsaRyan]

Never!!

[@kyleperkins7993]

😊

[@Ah-fq9iz]

would have restart 10 times 😆

[@UrsaRyan]

never restart!

[@eduardo3652]

Daily comment.

[@cinnamonbeardstud]

Lunatic ursa is best ursa!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!

[@Concussioncat]

URSA?

[@UrsaRyan]

hello there

[@dylanvansill2764]

5 minutes in and I’m already terrified for you. Just put the cities on the middle of the desert! You’re not a productive civ anyways. You’re an economy civ. Early game faith mid and late game tonnes of gold.

[@dylanvansill2764]

I’m not near as good at this game as you, but the Mali are one of my best civs

[@UrsaRyan]

Haha - just wait till you see what I do with that desert, I think I got my tactics spot on

[@dylanvansill2764]

@@UrsaRyan I’m excited to see it! I always learn a lot from how differently you and I play, but as we say in the south; “There’s more than one way to skin a deer.”

[@sarahwatts7152]

Not sure they make emojis for pure chaos

[@UrsaRyan]

🐙👀🔥⌛🎅

[@sarahwatts7152]

lol, should not have doubted@@UrsaRyan

[@12vscience]

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[@lawlussmusic]

Huzzah!

[@UrsaRyan]

Huzzah!