Civilization 7 - The First 20 CIVS REVEALED!

[@damienkeane6048]

England is almost certainly in the game too, since they used London as the example of a city evolving over time. The Vikings surely have to be an Exploration Age civ. And I'd love to see Ireland as a Modern Age civ. The Vikings and the Normans had a huge influence on the history of Ireland, England, and several other Northern European nations.

[@MrOobling]

If it's a modern age civ, I suspect it'll be UK, not England. And it seems borderline confirmed that England isn't in the exploration age: hopefully they'll be added in an expansion pack.

[@bra5081]

Might be Norway in the exploration age and Vikings in Antiquity age serving as base for those two civs.

[@damienkeane6048]

@@MrOobling is the UK more a political union rather than a civ? Usually to qualify as a civ, it has to be a nation or an Empire. Maybe it'll be the British Empire more so than the UK?

[@jonathanbowers8964]

Good luck with seeing Ireland on release. Ireland probably will be DLC. Civ games always release with a paired down bare bones list of Civs.

[@jammin5563]

​@@damienkeane6048The US is a political union.

[@ronnocthethird8806]

The part at the end is the requirement to play as Songhai. If your antiquity civ is Aksum or Egypt, OR if your leader is Amina you can pick Songhai. The check marks are very confusing but they’re requirements, not options

[@twrampage]

Not having the US, Britain/England, and Germany/Prussia would be just weird for a Civ game.

[@frenchforkidsofficial]

What about Russia, Portugal or the Ottomans? 😆

[@ssss8162]

@@twrampage Can never leave out Russia, Spain, Ottomans, Persians, Carthage and Arabia

[@syro33]

​@@ssss8162 Carthage/Phoenicia might end up being a dlc, like it was in civ 6, but otherwise yeah, all of those would be weird omissions

[@ssss8162]

@@twrampage Also the Babylons

[@haukionkannel]

Those are sure things to happen! We have allready seen Franklin, devs have talked about the London. And Germany has had some influence in the modern age…

[@beefusdoesstuff5194]

Maybe we'll finally get Mexico as a modern age civ.

[@darthvader6614]

I have a feeling that Aztec can turn into North and South American civs like the US, Mexico and Brazil, if not, then from Spain or France

[@phesachahawahacha2174]

Mayan--->aztec--->mexico

[@larrote6467]

@@phesachahawahacha2174 that doesn't make any sense

[@thecomradewarda]

@@larrote6467well kinda .

[@poot6760]

Ohh, that's interesting! Do you think it should be based on a certain era of Mexican history or just *Mexico*?

[@MrPeterGoldman]

Portugal not being in the exploration age would be a travesty...

[@CyberDrewan]

I imagine if it’s not in the base game it’ll be in the expansions. I believe it was an expansion civ in Civ 6

[@ShagaMoth]

I hope there is potential for as many modded civs as there were in civ 5 and 6

[@Dunno1999]

Doubt it. Civ V modded civs are more in numbers than Civ VI. It is because the game back then is simpler than before. And if the modders want to add civs, then they should add all of unique units, architecture, wonders, or even leaders.

[@fallenhonor4988]

CIV6 modding is atrocious, hopefully civ7 is better to mod and not as tedious and time consuming.

[@Arwir]

It's worth noting that the Normans are actually the medieval English, not just a single region of France that William the Conqueror happened to be from. Not only has it been commonplace for historians to refer to the period of British history from 1066 to the late Middle Ages as Norman England, but even contemporary European nations (particularly during the Crusades) referred to people from what is now England as "Normans" during this same time period.

[@nessa-parmentier]

Yeah, referring to normans as "the duchy of Normandy" is... restrictive. They represent England (which includes and was for a time ruled from Normandy), but also the norman kingdom of Sicily

[@joka4387]

13:00 Thats not a bug, it just means to play Songhai in the age of Exploration, you had to be Aksum or Egypt in the antiquity age, or your leader has to be Amina.

[@Salawon]

Waiting for Poland to finally appear in the base game, not DLC.

[@JirkaGasik]

Waiting for Czechia/Czechoslovakia/Kingdom of Bohemia to appear, period.

[@Salawon]

@@JirkaGasik I support, definitely would play this civ as well!

[@Konrad9119]

Poland makes sense and would work great with the new era mechanics too. The cultural ideology of Sarmatianism was central to how Poland developed and came to see itself in the world. Even Jadwiga’s cultural bomb ability in Civ 6, Golden Liberty or Aurea Libertas, has its origins in this Sarmatian/Scythian origin belief.

[@chwalciechomika]

@@JirkaGasik As a Pole, I fully agree, Hussites, Engineering achievements, you deserve it.

[@jonathanbowers8964]

Good luck babe. Unfortunately the only Slavic Civs at lost will probably be Russia and its precursors. The game is going to launch relatively barebones and given they want to appear less Eurocentric, it is highly unlikely Poland will be there at launch. I definitely see Poland as a great DLC with possibly Bohemia as well.

[@yasiin_miim]

I think historicaly persia is a must-have on antiquity age!

[@mpomp6378]

I now demand Canada be in my 4x games or else Ill write a stern letter to the devs that says "hey buddy, what gives?!"

[@VitZ9]

"We're not your buddy, frwend!"

[@djokogatalo2074]

@@VitZ9 we're not your fwend guy

[@welersoncarvalho2471]

No please and thank you? Not canadian

[@VitZ9]

@@welersoncarvalho2471 You ruined it. You're not our guy, buddy!

[@northeasturbanist]

They’ll be in a DLC I’m sure as a modern era civ, this new system actually will let them add more modern civs I think

[@HappyRealm-z5u]

Hating it so far... I hate the forced idea of changing the original civ instead of, for example, choosing additional features to build on and allowing it to evolve in a desired direction.

[@chiribaya8553]

Ikr, SEGA's Humankind, got a good idea where your civilization is an amalgamation of different cultures and influences you put together as the time flies

[@CotyWhite-jm2ot]

Yeah I’m pretty sure I really hate it.

[@KittenCritters]

Did lil bro just call the Mughals "muggle" 😭😭

[@Hotasianchick]

That's closer to the actual pronunciation than what most westerners say....

[@KittenCritters]

@@Hotasianchick Mughal is a word solely used by westerners, just like Persia

[@Hotasianchick]

@@KittenCritters That's...somewhat true but mostly not. Mughal is today an academic term used by everyone referring to the Gurkaniyan dynasty (which is what they actually called themselves) and the nation they ruled over as "Hindustan".

[@KittenCritters]

@DustyRhodesIV get out of here transphobe

[@HappyRealm-z5u]

My worry is that, for the first time in the history of Sid Meier's Civ, I won’t like the latest game version and might go back to the previous one instead.

[@KasumiRINA]

I'm still pissed it's been so many years since Civ 3 and they STILL insist on only one unique combat unit per civ! Most mods add at least one more.

[@alosha4321]

I guess now that we switch civs, well technically have three unique units

[@GatsbyCioffi]

There were a few civs over the years that had 2. I remember Civ 5 Japan having both the Samurai and the Zero. I believe America also had 2 in 5: The Minuteman and the B-17. I would like more unique planes, while we're at it 😂

[@GatsbyCioffi]

Come to think of it, a BUNCH of Civ 5 civs had 2: England had the Longbowmen and the Ship of the Line, Rome had the Legion and the Ballista, and I'm fairly certain there were more than that (I *think* Greece had 2? Pretty sure they had one besides the Hoplite). I think it was just 6 that pared them all down to 1 unit.

[@alosha4321]

@@GatsbyCioffi there were a couple in 6 that had two. England and Macedonia both had two. Maybe some other military civ as well

[@GatsbyCioffi]

​@@alosha4321Oh, yeah! I think it did depend on which England you played as though, cause I think not all of them did have 2.

[@pooch7245]

I really hope we get England as exploration and Great Britain as modern

[@MateusVIII]

sounds to me that it will be norman in exploration and england in modern.

[@digiorno1142]

@@MateusVIIINorman isn’t a country.

[@MateusVIII]

@@digiorno1142 civilization isn't about countries though, it is about civilizations. Normans were a "people", doesn't have to be an independent political entity classified as a country

[@digiorno1142]

@@MateusVIII It literally is about countries though and always has been.

[@digiorno1142]

@@MateusVIII Also the Normans were French.

[@Dough_Dough4]

I am repulsed at the core with this idea of separating leaders from their Civilizations. I'm sure there will be mods within a month of release that will tie leaders to their respective nations and I don't intend to play the game without those mods.

[@GGWP-gm5cq]

The modern Japanese civ is specifically Meiji Japan. Meiji Era is named after the specific Japanese Emperor who has led a rapid westernization in government and technology, leading to a complete shift in Japanese political structure and dispose the Shogunate. His reforming policies, now collectively refer as Meiji Restoration, is the Japanese civ ability in Civ 6. This era marked Japanese transformation towards an industrial power, however its successor would eventually leads Japan to a more bloodthirsty path. This is very likely a scientific and militaristic civ, since it ends with Japanese ascension to replace Qing as the de facto power of Far East and its expansion into Korea. What devs mention in Nintendo direct implies that there should be at least another Japan at exploration age, which means it is very likely to be a Shogunate or Nara/Heian period. A antiquity may also be present (tho I am personally doubtful, Japan is relatively young comparing to other big ancient civilizations), which may be Yamatai or Yayoi. There was also a leak post on a Chinese social media platform that has since been correct on many different topics. The post suggests a Han-Ming-Qing timeline of Chinese civs with Confucius as the leader. The same post suggests Kimiko and Meiji Japan prior to the Nintendo Direct. The only info that is since proved incorrect is Confucius is revealed to be a population focused leader, but the post suggests he is faith focused instead. If the rest of information is true, then Qing will be the last Chinese civ in modern age, and chances r it was picked to avoid the current political problem of PRC-RoC/Taiwan debacles. It is uncertain what they will do with Qing tho, this dynasty was initially extremely expansive seeing Chinese dominance over Tibetan plateau and retake control of Xinjiang and secure border with Russian. It also developed a somewhat friendly relation with Western Powers during the reign of Qianlong Emperor but the relation soured later due to problems with Christianity. However its later stages was marked by extreme xenophobic isolationism and rampant corruption that would drive the empire to its knees. Societal and technological development completely halted as the dowager, who was the de facto head of imperial family at the time, refuse to embrace industrialization and reform similar to Japan, which then lead to an era of what the Chinese now call “Century of Humiliation”.

[@alexgarrett4673]

With Himiko being confirmed as a leader, I'd be quite surprised if we don't get an ancient-era Yamatai

[@JumboPixel]

I'm hoping for a New Zealand 🤞

[@Hungary_Ball253]

Personally I want an exploration age Dutch civ

[@iceYoni]

Same, i haven't deleted the game because of Kupe lol

[@snippidippi]

You might get new Zealand at one era then you go from there from Brazil and later to Russia 😂

[@incognitoptl9408]

Exploration age without Portugal (first and with the first global empire) is like talking about orange juice but without oranges…

[@franceforthewin4917]

I am hoping for Romania!

[@fallenhonor4988]

That greece eventually evolves into norman in the next age? That's the most stupid shit i've ever seen, at least make it make sense. I also hope germany and prussia are playable.

[@digiorno1142]

Exactly. It totally destroys any immersion whatsoever. I hope mods fix this and redesign the entire system into something more realistic…..

[@aaronw497]

@@digiorno1142you’re the reason games never evolve or change…

[@digiorno1142]

@@aaronw497 whatever you say😂😂

[@ericolson9327]

Both the Greeks and Normans were in southern Italy

[@al3xand993]

​@@ericolson9327yea but they emigrated there from Northern France after vikings settled in Normandy 200 years prior

[@lasserrdamnielsen6655]

Yes, Amina is a leader. She was queen of the Hausa city-state of Zazzau (present day northern Nigeria). She wasn't actually a Songhai leader, but lived next door to the Songhai Empire during its final years.

[@Willie5000]

I suppose it's easier than adding the Hausa into the game...

[@dendradwar9464]

Cultural appropriation ..

[@DrShocktopus]

Finally the Abbasids make a proper apperance and I love their science focus, I hope its a blend of religion and science like the "Arabia" civ in civ6. Abbasids technically existed in civ5 with Harun al-Rashid (Abbasid Caliph) leading the Arabia civ that had Saudi (modern Arabia) passives which was you know... interesting.

[@awaf12]

I am iraqi and feel known 🥺 Iraq is recovering and hopefully it will come back to be center of religion and science Also iraqis like myself are still very scientific and religious at the same time, we love science and we love spirtuality, it's even in the anthem

[@awaf12]

I will play civ 7 just to play abbasids

[@syro33]

@@awaf12 Gotta rebuild the Baghdad House of Wisdom 2.0 :D

[@awaf12]

@@syro33 ❤️

[@NakedMartinMartin]

I hope they remove Denuvo. Only thing I care about, won't buy the game until it is yeeted

[@maartenbondt9600]

Civ7 is absolutely stunning!

[@hiroshimablast1945]

No Russia, Britain or Germany? No Persia and Carthage? Sumerian and Babylon? Incas and the Aztecs? US is also pretty relevant in modern history. No Portuguese and Spanish in the exploration age? Also i'd love to see the Vikings. Civ will feel pretty weird without these ad on

[@dustin7405]

This is just some of the civs, why assume none of those will be in it?

[@deneguil-1618]

The issue I see with the US in Civ 7 has to do with the root mechanic making you choose a different civ at each age, cause the US was created out of nowhere in the modern age so which path would they add it in

[@dustin7405]

@@deneguil-1618 the changing civs each era doesn’t make sense to begin with. With any of them.

[@deneguil-1618]

@@dustin7405 I mean i *get* them but i agree. Otherwise from Rome in the antiquity age we could branch to Italy, France, Spain, Portugal, Byzantine and so much more In the same way we could go from France to the Carolingian Empire to either France again or Germany But in the case of the US it's very particular cause it was created out of nothing with no heritage or history to claim in the modern era

[@al3xand993]

​@@deneguil-1618Antiquity french would be the gauls

[@mickschilder3633]

I'm curious about if and when the Netherlands is added, it would be as a modern or as an exploration era civ.

[@Lazuli901]

It'd have to be exploration imo, the Dutch impact was sooo much bigger then.

[@ppp-vz1mi]

It's modern age. Modern doesn't equal ww2 but very early modern period.

[@Deetee125]

It’ll probably just be a city-state.

[@jesperraijmakers6918]

Has to be with their Golden age

[@zaneeverett5960]

This civ hopping is so weird and the options of civs you can jump to seem very arbitrary.

[@Vael221]

Sure, to some extent that is just an inevitability simply because not every civ will have a clean progression through the ages. But also a lot of it is just a volume issue, the more civs that get added to the game the more logical the progression can be.

[@WatchThis-ek2og]

I haven't heard of most of the second era civs before, I agree it's concerning.

[@justinland1208]

They are just stealing the idea from a game that tried to rival them and failed. This company is now copying failed copies of itself.

[@bh7969]

@@Vael221 the more you pay the more you play

[@rabebaer9536]

Giving civs a huge production bonus towards "their" wonder is very railroady and dumbed-down.

[@flamingosini8489]

Another civ we've seen hinted, but not mentioned in your video @jumbopixel is Mississippi/Cahokia. From the first look Tecumseh/Shawnee video, there's a very short scene of a diplo screen showing Tecumseh facing Amina, this is in the antiquity age and the flag behind Tecumseh shows a sun symbol which people have told me is the sundisk symbol of cahokia/mississippians. So they would be another antiquity civ, and a sensible antiquity precursor for exploration age shawnee.

[@ArakkoaChronicles]

Hold on, I wasn't following any Civ 7 news and I thought I'd just see what civs they have. If I understand this correctly here... you change civilization as you advance through the ages? That is... definitely not what I'd want to play, to put it mildly. Half the fun of it for me was making Egyptians go to space and stuff like that. I don't want to turn them into Arabs because Arabs conquered them IRL.

[@r-ex2945]

I like it because it gives some history information the thing I like the most about civ. Than again im a history, geopolitics geek.

[@thanos7715]

Egyptians today don't have any gripes with this, you would know this if you actually bothered to ready anything.

[@coolguy1538]

Obviously the history geeks would love this idea, I don't want to play a game to learn history 😂

[@martinvaux9843]

Ed Beach spoke about the Normans in a live stream, so we know they're coming. Pretty psyched about that.

[@TheNickVillarreal]

Khmer is part of the Civ VI leader pass, and was featured in a monthly challenge. Safe to say, they are not "making a debut". The rest of the information in this video was nicely informative

[@err0rheart932]

He said debut as an antiquity civ, not debut in general...

[@Pigraider268]

13:18 I think it's prerequisits you have to fulfill to play as Songhai

[@lennyghoul]

Civ IV had Khmer. (I mistakenly thought it was Civ V)

[@NassimPanda]

Civ VI too, a very one originally it was completely reworked and became pretty much the best one with one of the latest patches

[@zaneeverett5960]

It’s also very weird Khmer is in antiquity while Chola is in Exploration. The two civilizations were contemporary. They formed an alliance to fight Srivijaya.

[@Hotasianchick]

​@@zaneeverett5960The Chola are also much older than the Khmer, which makes all the more odder

[@joshsargent5580]

I really hope they bring back Gaul and Byzantine as civs to play as. Those two were my favorite civs to play in 6 snd could offer really neat scenarios to play in.

[@armelior4610]

A lot of the comments are "why no (insert my country here) ? 😢😡", even if it's just a partial list and we don't even know how many civs in total there will be at launch, nevermind the at least 250$ of DLC later. I'm beginning to think the appeal of the franchise is more chauvinism than gameplay :D

[@RoachChaddjr]

What?

[@torrvic1156]

Who knows…Maybe you partially right.

[@King-of-Lusitania]

By the heavens if they forget Portugal again when you have EXPLORATION AGE which they defined and PIONEERED...

[@GWR515]

Maybe they’re requirements that have to be met above the ‘choose Songhai button!‘ Like you need to be one of those civs or have that leader? Edit* I see this has been figured out

[@elPacho_42]

Hope i can finally play with with Italy in a civ game

[@mafproductions5005]

At the moment you can play Italy in ARA

[@leonardodimanici3553]

yeah, I hope too. It would be a joke if the historical path from Rome led only to France. I think that at least modern italy should be there, ideally there should be also something for the exploration age

[@syro33]

@@elPacho_42 Oh actually yeah! Italy has always been overlooked in favor of Rome in civ (except venice in civ 5 i guess), so this is the perfect game for them to get a chance to shine!

[@syro33]

@@leonardodimanici3553 Hmm... I could see a lot of options for exploration age italy honestly. The Papal States, Two Sicilies, Venice or Genoa, or Sardinia Piedmont could all work I think

[@leonardodimanici3553]

@@syro33 yes, there is also Florence and Lorenzo de Medici would be a great leader for a new civ. I doubt that they would use the papal state, since religion is no longer a victory option

[@3ipolarBear]

Really curious about the name of the song that played at the start when you're talking about Rome, quite a pretty orchestral piece.

[@Dxdme1]

2:24 “Han is a grower and a show-er” is CRAZY

[@thecaryou]

I was a little uncertain about the civ switching but now super excited to do the Han to Ming seems like that is really to progress how the area actually progressed and you are not fighting France in the ancient times. Really wish the leader also switched with age change.

[@GatsbyCioffi]

They seem to want to make the leader be an avatar for you. Like *you* are the leader, and stick around the whole game, even as the civ underneath you morphs, evolves, and changes. Cause the leader has its own tree of unlockable benefits in-game now, like social policies, that can seemingly apply passive benefits to whatever civ you're currently playing as. Or at least, that's how I understand it to be.

[@DudeWatIsThis]

"Where is Englaaaand!" Oh shut up, welcome to the club. Imagine being Spanish, objectively a top 10 most of the most important civilizations in history, and see games with 16 or 20 civilizations leave Spain out for the "eXpAnSiOn dLc" so they can add them in with Mayas, Aztecs and whatnot.

[@enelabe]

It would be nice for Spain to be able to be played coming either from Rome or from some Arabic civilization in the ancient age!

[@WhatsThePointPicture]

Just remember if this game releases and the Civ you're hoping for isn't in the game. Just wait a year or so, one of the biggest money making strategist for past Civ games has been to release like 40 more civs over the course of time as paid DLC.

[@ThreadedThought]

We haven't heard much about the modern age but we can assume that england will be a modern age nation from Norman's also. I'm interested to see how we get to the US though. I'm pretty confident there will be an ottoman empire as the modern nation option for civs like Egypt and persia. I have a hard time thinking through what nations make the 10 nation cut it every age gets 10 like antiquity: England France Germany/Prussia Russia/USSR US Japan China Ottoman Certainly we get Modern African nation like the Zulu Native American nation, Iroquois? India Im already at 11 that feel core for me but im guessing we could see brazil or a south east asian nation since khmer exsist. Theres plenty more directions they could go thiugh

[@almightyswizz]

The jaguar slayer is diabolical, I hope they allow more partisan warfare, combat will be interesting

[@Seelecon]

Waiting for Austronesian civ in antiquity age which will give option to majaphahit, srivijayan, pacific islanders in exploration age and the modern day counties such as Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, New Zealand in the modern age with the option to go USA in modern if you choose Pacific islands.

[@estebangomezllata9642]

Do we know what sort of timelines do the "Antiquity, Discovery, Modern" sort of fit in? Would like both the Carolingian empire and the Holy Roman Empire fit into Discovery?

[@otherz-g1x]

According to the dev's comment on the r/Civ subreddit, they didn't look at calendar dates but more so which civs from a region most closely aligned to how they were planning to develop each age, hence why Khmer shows up as Antiquity when the Khmer Empire starts at 800 CE and hits it's peak in the span of the 1100s to the 1200s

[@TheIshShow1]

They really put Humankind in my Civ game...

[@bombyouup62]

Yep one of the worst or fake civ clones.

[@TylerBaraby]

Yep Humankind made tons of worthwhile improvements to the formula that Civ would be foolish to deny. A wonderful example of how competition in a genre can shake up stale design.

[@2d00rstudi0s]

@@TylerBaraby civ iv was the last real civ

[@rondumpster]

Why they do not implement Eastern Europe civs? Bulgars, dacians, serbs, hungarians?

[@KasumiRINA]

They never do. Though everyone you listed is central European, like West of center of Europe, which is somewhere between Poland and Ukraine. BTW, they always ignore Ukrainians existing in strategy games because they didn't want to alienate buyers from mordor, BUT I looked up and 2K DO NOT sell games in land of drunker war criminals, so there isn't any reason for them to include the orcs but not us anymore.

[@swyjix]

Bulgars are absolutely Eastern European, and Kievan Rus would be the best option, as it please all parties, even the Swedes.

[@swyjix]

Also regardless of personal disdain Muscovite Russia has been far more important internationally than Ukraine since the mongols. Cossacks are cooler though.

[@fullmetalfury7245]

Closest you get is Poland/Russia

[@oleksiygudz8470]

Precursor for eastern european should be Kievan Rus in exploration. But most likely Russia will go from mongols

[@ՀովսեփԽաշունի]

The fact that Armenia hasn’t featured in any Civ game, either base or DLC is a travesty. It’s almost perfect for the 3 era system.

[@jonathanbowers8964]

Yeah. Unfortunately Armenia is still considered "controversial" due to ongoing prejudice from Turkey and their friends. As Firaxis wants to sell in Turkey and the Middle East, they probably won't include Armenia at launch. I could see them adding Armenia in a DLC, but it is still unfortunately not going to happen because the feelings of genocide deniers matters more because those deniers have money.

[@ՀովսեփԽաշունի]

@@jonathanbowers8964 When you realize how little revenue comes from Turkey’s regional pricing….

[@torrvic1156]

Definitely they should include Armenia. Come on! It’s the first Christian state as far as I know. Even before Roman Empire. Also would love to see Ukraine in the game.

[@ՀովսեփԽաշունի]

@@torrvic1156 Yerevan is 29 years older than Rome!

[@torrvic1156]

@@ՀովսեփԽաշունի another good reason to include Armenia. Also they should not forget about Georgia and maybe they will eventually include Jewish civilization in the game.

[@kgosch1]

I just hope that USA isn't boring or lame as it is in 90% of 4x games. Never feels like a reflection of how it is in real life (good or bad)

[@Aryaxis]

No Persia, no purchase...

[@zepoopy5121]

Grow up

[@christophermiller2133]

Does Maurya get a Balrog unit?

[@Torquemadia]

Erm, Khmer have been in Civilisation before......

[@err0rheart932]

If you pay attention, he said Khmer's debut as an ancient civilization. Not that it is the Khmer's debut in general, but specifically for the antiquity era.

[@Vael221]

Definitely hoping we get a proper Exploration Age Aztec Empire

[@Crick1952]

I could definitely see a Maya - Aztec - Mexico path

[@larrote6467]

@@Crick1952 maya to aztecs doesn't make any sense;

[@CoreyStudios2000]

So we’re skipping the Medieval age?

[@radek4634]

we skip all eras in this civ part, now there will be only 3 imaginary eras.

[@steffenpanning2776]

@@radek4634 To be fair, all eras are made up after the fact. People in Rome didn't describe their era as 'Antiquity' and neither did the people in the Middle ages describe themselves as 'medieval'.

[@LadySelune]

@@steffenpanning2776 The Romans didn't exist in antiquity. They're closer to us in time than the formation of the pyramids.

[@steffenpanning2776]

@@LadySelune That depends how you define Antiquity. The Time range most people agree on starts in the 8th century BC and ends around the 5th century AD. Using this definition, the Romans lived in Antiquity.

[@granpaNurgle]

One of the biggest critiques of Humankind was how awkward and epheremal the civ-switching mechanics. People didn't like it. For some reason, civ 7 has implemented the *hated* core feature of a failed civ clone. Its astonishingly, mind-numbingly stupid.

[@musashix96]

Would be great to see Venezuela (Not Gran Colombia) as a civ, whether with Simón Bolívar or with Marcos Pérez Jiménez as the leader.

[@OldDadGamer]

no brazil yet ;_; nd the pay wall is keeping me from doing what i did with 6 getting the pass

[@haukionkannel]

Brasil… maybe dlc maybe newer , unless modders make it

[@alexypolivany7148]

It will be fun if you can select either in modern ages Ukraine or Russia, after playing as Kyivan Rus in antiaue ages.

[@toodleselnoodos6738]

Other ones: Inca, Aztec, and Hawaiians are definitely available as we saw some screenshots.

[@TheSpectacledOwl]

Will all these civs have their own leaders or will it just be a leader per “branch”? Also, is it too much to hope for a Chamorro civ? Probably as an antiquity civ branch for Oceanian civs?

[@lordhoratio]

I hope the Austrian painter is the leader for the Germany civ.

[@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497]

Probably won't be, unfortunately.

[@42thecakeisalie]

Why would we have this mediocre charlatan that ruins his country ? Bismarck is a much better choice.

[@ANDORRA195]

Sadly probs not 😢😢

[@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479]

Done to death with most games. Would like a Landsknecht leader like Götz or Maximillian II. If we want something more unique maybe Hermann Salza (Teutonic) or a proper Arminius or Theoderic.

[@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497]

@@magniwalterbutnotwaltermag1479 Where outside of Hearts of Iron and mods that get taken down from major modding platforms?

[@heinousdownunder4335]

I think it would have been cool if the starting “civ” choice was based around a language group. Some starting regional bonuses, then forking in to the different branches and trajectories of the group. I.e. choose “Latin” and starting with Rome buffs, then forming into Iberians, Franks and Lombards, then into modern Mediterranean or even Latin American civs. “Nordic” could start as Norsemen, then to Saxon, Kiev Rus, or Swedes, then to modern Denmark, Sweden or English. Would be a fascinating journey through time and history for the Slavs, Sanskrit, Sino, Semitic, Germans, Celts, Austronesian etc. Hopefully stop any cultural cringe that Civ 7 may be flirting with

[@polatucos15]

still no portugal? makes sense they never done anything remarkable like finding the way to india by sea or the first europeans in japan or maybe brazil. nothing of note really

[@g2-d2]

I can't imagine an Antiquity age without Carthage. I hope it's in the base game !

[@danyoutube7491]

Japan being in the modern age raises questions for me - will we not see samurai as a unique unit? How can they hope to be useful in the age of cannons and muskets?

[@wilcoxchar]

The announcement specifically mentioned it was "Meiji Japan", so Japan is probably in multiple ages like China having Han and Ming.

[@jonathanbowers8964]

Yeah Japan will probably have Samurai in its Exploration age. Japan will be represented in all three ages with some changes between each ages.

[@mahari893]

Japan (fortunately) has a pretty straightforward history, so I’m hoping Japan (and a few others) has a straight path and the “historical path” isn’t miles away in West Africa

[@crowstick]

Maybe there’s gonna be kamikaze-planes

[@josepha9184]

They need a unique unit kamakaze planes

[@andrewdickinson3369]

Trying so hard to be like Humankind, which I tried for a while before going back to civ6😢

[@SuperClazyboy]

Your narrative abilities are top notch

[@ASNJ89]

Portugal should be on base game

[@foodlord1]

5:47 wrong! It's not their debut. There was the Khmer and Indonesia Civilization & Scenario Pack in Civ 6, released in 2017.

[@bdleo300]

They only need to add Rwanda, Swaziland and Somalia.

[@bshhhhhhh]

this game is so pretty, cant wait for it to come out so i can play civ v

[@FLLCI]

How come there is no Ottomans????? They have been one of the star factions among the past CIVS

[@Prtpot117]

I assume the USA, England, Netherlands, Germany, Italy, Russia, and Brazil will all be featured at some point. Maybe Portugal, Australia, and hopefully African, South East Asian and Polynesian civs, too 😃

[@MrAdik861]

Wondering from which civs USA and Brazil will come from. Or maybe they'll only be in the modern age?

[@LadySelune]

@@MrAdik861 The US should come from England and Brazil should come from Portugal (who should come from Rome).

[@truffiethestreamer]

This video got me to finally subscribe. Dunno why I haven't yet. You're on it with the news! Thanks my dude, for helping me keep track over my newest game obsession. ✌😄

[@ttouran]

It would be absurd not to have Mesopotamia civ in antiquity..absolutely absurdity, but then again the game looks absurd so it would not surprise me

[@maartenbondt9600]

I hope they add the Netherlands in exploration age at some point

[@shurale123]

Yay, Napoleon is back!

[@julioverne579]

I have the distinct fear that south america will be completely reserved for a DLC. Also its wild we havent heared anything about Russia or Germany or Scandinavia.

[@Johnny-pt9xw]

A Civ without the Germans is a Civ without me playing it.

[@E350tb]

I would be absolutely shocked if they don’t have the Germans. Any leader preferences?

[@ReelVibes8]

Rome > HRE > Germany

[@hidingindanielsroom7268]

@@E350tb Hi... ...ndenburg?

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[@GollyWillikers]

Germany with the special ability to build the autobahn and +1 culture per camp built.

[@adamshedd]

What song did he use for when he was talking about Han China

[@dannyd1098]

This mechanic is doomed to fail

[@digiorno1142]

I really, really, REALLY don’t like or understand why we are getting civs specific to ages. Like are they really trying to say that France is only a modern state? Did it not exist in the medieval era? It doesn’t make any sense to me, especially the prerequisites. How the hell does Rome became the Normans?? How the hell does Egypt become Songhai??

[@Torr3697]

The Romans became the Normans in that the territory was Roman territory with Roman citizens. When Rome pulled out, it still left behind a lot of people and culture that eventually grew into Norman culture. It’s the same reason that Rome can lead into Germany or Byzantium. They have threads of connection where the culture informed and influenced the next culture. I don’t know much about Egypt, but I assume it’s the same there, since most others I’ve seen had those same connections.

[@Torr3697]

Another good example would be that England leads into America, or Portugal into Brazil, or ancient China into less ancient Japan. It’s why there are multiple civs that both precede and succeed each civ, because civs are both informed and influenced by many other civs and do the same in turn. So you can play as the continuation of your earlier civ, such as with China, or you can play as those people who left and influenced the founding of other civs or who reformed after the fall of your previous civ, such as with Rome/Gaul into Normandy or with the Aztec/Spain into Mexico

[@wandregisel6385]

@@Torr3697 Portugal into Brazil, rather

[@Torr3697]

@@wandregisel6385 yeah, I mixed that up a bit. Thanks for the correction!

[@GatsbyCioffi]

Will be interested how they handle modern Russia. Like could there be a branching path to go "Russia" OR "Soviet Union"? And there be different ways to get one or the other? Idk, I feel like the 2 entities are distinct enough, and culturally significant enough, that both could end up as playable late game civs.

[@team3am149]

There will definitely only be one of them. Most countries have had multiple forms of themselves in the modern era, the devs are only going to be choosing one for each.

[@neistrong614]

Seeing Soviets as a civ will be strange, not gonna lie. I think they will just add Russia, but I hope you can do something like this in-game by choosing ideology. It will be cool if after ideology change the emblem and name of the civ will change. For example If I am playing as Russians and mine ideology is monarchy, my emblem is the same as in civ 6, and my civ name is "Russian Empire"

[@BoomBoomBoomUwU]

​@@neistrong614They are taking that while civilization progression from Humankind where there are both Russia and the soviets. The same is with England for example, it's the medieval England and England from Great Britain times

[@GollyWillikers]

It would be awesome if Vlad Țepeș would show up in Civ7

[@Zarastro54]

So will we be FORCED to change civs with the era? If so, how will that affect civs that historically transcend multiple eras? Will we have to switch from Spain after the exploration era even though Spain very much still exists?

[@l33tspaniard]

Yeah, I was expecting something like Iberia for exploration, splitting to spain and portugal in modern. Oh god I wonder if EU will be modern

[@KasumiRINA]

They could have made Castle & Leon and Kingdom of Aragon for Medieval age and Spain for modern, but since they got a bizarre idea of merging middle ages with Exploration specifically, they'd have to make it Spain. I guess they had the bright idea of making Aztecs evolve to Spain to Mexico. You know, just to insult everybody lol.

[@finaldusk1821]

​@@l33tspaniard The EU is an economic and political alliance between nations, not nation in-and-of itself. There is just about zero chance that it or other alliance blocs would be portrayed as 'civs' when it makes much more sense to use some of their constituent member states instead.

[@hidingindanielsroom7268]

No, you don't have to buy the game.

[@l33tspaniard]

@@finaldusk1821 hence my abject terror at the concept

[@balthus9105]

So are we getting games where you only get five or six civilisations in game at a time? I'm sorry but this is not looking very epic.

[@mcg284]

This is kinda useless if they just make u change the civ midway thru

[@KeithanPickens]

So when the game releases it won't be just 20 leaders right? So hopefully we would be looking at 35 to 45 on the first game then wait for civilization 7 dlc hopefully with 15 to 25 more new leaders I seriously hope first game without dlc will be 45 to 50 leaders😅😢😂

[@AdamFordGhostships]

Greece's special unit should be a trireme with kickass attack strength (greek fire)

[@WatchThis-ek2og]

It should be spartans!

[@clemenx]

Civs being locked to ages is the lamest thing ever, wtf? I want to be Ancient Australia or futuristic Babylon I should.

[@gabork5055]

That was handled by Empire Earth games quite well, filling in the eras with fantasy eras for each civilisation. Different genre i know, but still. Aside from skirmishes EE2 even had a synthetic-age Maya campaign in an expansion if i remember correctly.

[@mw3586]

I dont understand Buganda as a modern civ vs. say Ethiopia which could have stretched out over 2 eras or Nigeria for a modern era

[@jimmyhale6392]

Refers to Han China as “a grower and a shower” 💀

[@meeklynobody3230]

How else they going to sell dlc

[@DenRays]

I hope they will add Russia (or ancient Rus) along with Ivan IV (I'm really tired of only Modern age civs for Russia tbh)

[@r-ex2945]

That is the original kingdom which started in ukraine so would begreat to get that.

[@paulsilverston5188]

Would be neat in order to unlock the Colosseum you 1st have to sack another civilizations Holy cities like in real life

[@Snapshot.Geo07]

I hope multiplayer to be good and fun