Which Company Is Better For Software Engineers - Google or Facebook?

[@devguyahnaf]

Petition for Clement to talk about the tools he uses for coding such as docker, vscode, sql server etc.

[@jatinjoshi9897]

petition signed... @ Clément Mihailescu get to work 😎

[@quinnbanaan1348]

Signed...

[@clem]

Woah, a lot of people seem to be signing this petition!

[@archiboldbernard25]

Signed

[@dragonboat85]

Signed

[@mirazzaidi]

Like we have a choice

[@JayMaverick]

"Should I take the job at Google or Facebook?" I hope this is a question I need to face some day.

[@krishshanbhag3225]

I hope you do.😁😁👍

[@levibeam100]

@Coz Fi which one did you choose?

[@dirkneuhauser8213]

@Coz Fi I want to have your problems, I mean seriously

[@TischBacchus021]

@Coz Fi How did you get this far?

[@GuruTheCoder]

@Coz Fi what resources did you use? Clrs? Ctci? The algorithm design manual? Algorithms By Robert Sedgwick? Epi? What other resources did you use? Thanks!!

[@jfk-yb2vh]

I worked at Facebook (Meta) for 6 months, and now working at Google My two cents: 1. Facebook's bootcamp >> Google's team matching 2. Facebook's food = Google's food 3. Facebook's 401k(100%) and health insurance > Google's 401k(50%) and health insurance 4. Facebook's WLB < Google's WLB 5. Facebook’s internal tools > Google’s internal tools

[@jayeshseth]

question: which is better google or facebook?? answer: in which ever company I get job first

[@karthikraja1927]

Op

[@adeboyeisrael3046]

Exactly not too picky

[@shnerdz]

what happens when you get offers from both?

[@VandaleCallender]

shnerdz touché

[@jayeshseth]

@@shnerdz then google any time

[@iamnoob7593]

I appreciate ur video. From India To get an interview call at these top companies is extremely hard... n clearing the interview is whole different level and with pandemic all the elite college grads occupy jobs available.

[@pratikdahal9784]

I must appreciate Clem's attempt to compare two 24 carat golds.

[@cascadengineering]

How about the ethical side of working for such companies? Or is it completely overshadowed by compensation plan?

[@johnsamuel6096]

Cataract?

[@ShubhamPandey-yu9tj]

*carat

[@pratikdahal9784]

@@johnsamuel6096 I mean carat .... autocorrection ruined...

[@johnsamuel6096]

@@pratikdahal9784 👍

[@pedroignacio]

Hi clem. Why don't u make a video talking about the tools u use as a software engineer? Talk about docker, kubernets, your code IDE, and all the other stuff

[@comradepeter87]

@Yogesh Date What makes you think that?

[@devguyahnaf]

I second this motion

[@anthonylir]

This would be awesome

[@f00kwhiteblackracismwarsh07]

Because he has no clue what people want to know. He just smart thats all

[@harispapadopoulos4295]

Hey Clement. I just saw a video about what fang engineers do after work in Silicon Valley and most of them just go home and watch Netflix because "there's nothing to do in silicon valley". Do you find that to be the case with the other FANG offices in places like Washington, New York etc ?

[@clem]

I think that depends a lot on the individual. There are _some_ things to do in Silicon Valley, like rock climbing, going to the gym, going to restaurants, etc.. Admittedly, in a location like New York City, there are a lot more conventional "things to do" and perhaps more options for them.

[@harispapadopoulos4295]

Clément Mihailescu That makes sense, thank you Clement

[@canyounot4665]

I saw that video, it was one of, if not probably the most, misleading video I’ve ever seen

[@JerryLuo62]

@@canyounot4665 Yeah, the truth is you can do anything you want outside of your work hours, which are for the most part pretty chill and not anywhere near other fields like consulting or finance. That being said, is Silicon Valley boring? Yeah, sort of, it's a suburb and doesn't have any nightlife. But there's still great outdoors stuff, and great food. Also, if you're at a big company, you'll find lots of things to do like happy hour with other people at your company as well as lots of sports leagues like volleyball or soccer or basketball.

[@canyounot4665]

Jerry Luo god forbid you live in Ohio or Kentucky like I did so you can experience a city that literally offers nothing. If you think a city with multiple adjacent cities with a cumulative population in the order of the millions is boring and then it’s just you my dude, you are boring, you struggle with socializing. “Doesn’t offer any night life” LOL yea hate to break it to you my dude, no one just wants to invite you anywhere (maybe cause you are boring?? Idk)

[@uzdik.student]

Google products I use: Search, Translate, Chrome, Maps, Gmail, KZbin, Android OS, Drive, Docs etc. Facebook products I use: Facebook...

[@JerryLuo62]

Instagram, Whatsapp?

[@krishnarao4290]

Congratulations on 200k subscribers 🥳🥳

[@clem]

Thank you!

[@sahildarji412]

Clement, when will AlgoExpert start hiring software engineers 😁

[@zommanderz3605]

All your videos are gold. I’m glad I found your channel

[@broadcast3ful]

Google more friendly for beginners, Facebook for experienced people willing to work 10 hours + in some teams, those are the well known things, lets watch and see what you think

[@drmathochist06]

To speak back about team-matching process: working with the team in bootcamp is nice, but there are many systemic issues on teams that you may not notice until you've been there for months, by which point it's too late. In practice it only allows you to weed out the biggest red flags, which Google's process also allows. As to the stress of that team-matching phase, I'm sorry your recruiter didn't tell you (like mine did) that you had a YEAR to find a match before the tentative offer would expire. If you don't think you can find a team you'll be at least content on within a year in a company the size of Google, I don't know what to tell you. And both are better than Amazon, which makes you pick your team BEFORE interviewing. There's not even a list of what sorts of teams exist, so you're picking based on which recruiter you got, not based on what you're interested in.

[@MrVoid]

Another awesome one!! Love hearing unbiased opinions from someone who worked at both. Helps me out a lot personally!

[@vitaliimakarov6181]

Very valuable video. I am exactly in the same situation. Should choose between FB and Google. And you help me a lot!

[@briandesign]

the real question is which one is better for making gains?

[@clem]

In NYC, Google (the office has a gym--a pretty decent one at that--and just more unlimited food) 💪😎

[@farhan787]

Great and insightful comparison!

[@lofistudio9652]

I am watching these videos as they are waiting for me to hire

[@SoftwareEngenius]

Having worked at both I agree with all said. One thing to note though, I think Facebook might be growing quicker than Google, and Google might have a bit more variety in products. It's easier to get promoted at Facebook.

[@hat_awesome21]

hey one doubt , does google /facebook allow it's software engineers to work on personal projects / personal startups ? as long as it's not competing with it's own products like how clement made algoexpert alongside working at google ?

[@SoftwareEngenius]

​@@hat_awesome21 Tricky, they typically have clauses. If it's a substantial portion of income I think it becomes a problem. For something like AlgoExpert it could become a conflict of interest because it might coincide with the interview process? It's generally discouraged because they don't want employees burning out and not focusing on their job, but to answer your question it highly depends.

[@hat_awesome21]

one thing , does google allows to work on our personal projects / personal startups

[@rahulkumarjha2404]

Commented even before watching the video!

[@bubusarkar7930]

I think people will be lucky enough to get into any one of this companies for the first time there should be any difference but for someone like Clement there should be a difference

[@thunderdoge]

Thanks for video, very useful )

[@princesompura5658]

i saw many videos on software developer..... but you are #THEBEST really #THEBEST

[@jaime7295]

Do you think there is any kind of "ego" in these big tech companies?

[@dhruvsingh34]

No. Google atleast don't have it.

[@JerryLuo62]

My team match was pretty smooth...but then my offer review got delayed a whole month because of the coronavirus! Waited a whole month between passing hiring committee and matching with a team AND THEN getting my offer.

[@johnchristian8679]

Awesome overview, comprehensive and nuanced, thanks so much! ❤️😎👍

[@taftsandbakken6995]

You should do a tier list of all the big companies according to your insights.

[@sandeepsinhamahapatra6975]

Congratulations on 200k

[@priyanshusaraf7605]

Clement, I was wondering about the algo expert competition. I was wondering whether we can use google maps in the project?i don’t wanna make the algorithmic visualisation, rather I wanna be innovative, could you give me a deeper explanation of what do you mean by “visualisation”? Can I use gmaps or apis or stuff??

[@HEEST7930]

Hi Clement, can Systems Expert help with design oriented questions of the Google Cloud Architect Certification exam ?

[@drmathochist06]

The "internal version of Atom" is called Nuclide. I worked on it for a year. It's garbage compared to Cider IV, and the beta of Cider V that's running now is even better.

[@vikascsgo]

I wonder what software these companies use for messaging, file sharing or these type things. like just github, discord, slack or something else?

[@TethiusMC]

Microsoft Teams most likely

[@AZaqZaqProduction]

Google, obviously enough, uses GSuite products like Drive, Google Docs, Google Chat, etc. Facebook from what I've heard uses their Workplace product.

[@freesxsoccer]

@@AZaqZaqProduction Yes Facebook uses Workplace

[@evergreen7781]

The difficulty level of this Q's is like who came first Chicken or Egg 😂😂😂 Great answer by Clement 🔥🔥🔥

[@nikkoabucejo9686]

Happy 200k :)

[@mattconrad]

Excellent video, sir!

[@XueyongQian]

Very insightful video!

[@prodevmahi4901]

Very insightful, Thankyou so much

[@PSNGuyWithHair102]

This was actually a really good video! Earned my like

[@clem]

I'm glad you found it really good!

[@099watcher]

Is it a good idea to do both fullstack and Android or do you think a person should stick with 1 and become a specialist in it? If you could make a video on this topic that would be great !

[@VVSDRAWGAME]

love ur vids!!

[@HolgerSinn]

Clement, i have to say that's very very interesting what you say.

[@andrewkreisher689]

currently in that boat, have been interning at FB and am considering trying Google

[@hackweiser4127]

Hey clem heard of infosys or TATA...?? Not comparable to Google & FB but you know....check'em out

[@RahulPandey-jo6rk]

I got your sarcasm(an indian)

[@hackweiser4127]

@@RahulPandey-jo6rk Nah no sarcasm intended, i just think both companies have incredibly intresting/weird journey like infosys was so amazing till narayan was ceo then all the next CEOs were removed pretty quickly causing📉📉 and for TATA, Ratan donates 67% every year that's pretty interesting for me!!

[@codeblooded6760]

TCS is the worst company

[@dmitriylevy7865]

What about the growth as a software engineer? What is a better learning experience?

[@rafalmichalski4893]

Why 2 months only (at Facebook) ? I've never been so short at company. In Poland we have usually 3-months trial period.

[@prathmeshborle8570]

What should I choose competitive Programming or software development as a student?

[@ajaybhagchandani3307]

Are there any microservices built using Django that we can work on in google or fb? :P

[@Tomatin_mx]

Clément, what happened with when you have 33 years old for example? Is it possible to get in? or is justo for young people?? if you have 33 the interview process is harder?

[@atharva1237]

This was great. Can you do kind of a conference with all your friends who have worked in different companies and other KZbinr and discuss these points with them and compare it all. That would be a very informative video.

[@testermailer4130]

Hi, can you interview me . Java Swing Or JS ? i want to test my coding level....

[@umeshcyadav2104]

Can we take one Red Bull each a day through out the week🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@clem]

👀You can take two Red Bulls each day throughout the week 👀

[@princesompura5658]

@@clem should have nice budget........

[@umeshcyadav2104]

@@clem that's great 👍👍

[@BobstyleLiving]

Too much info, appreciate it bro.

[@xx2HYPExx]

Will you do a deeper comparison on the NY and CA offices?

[@EmperorVenn]

Soo... Hello there people. I have this question. Theoretically speaking it's possible to become a Software engineer in a year or 1 and a half if you actually didn't have experience in this field. If you were in the position, what would you do to reach your goal? (I'm really interested in seeing what approach people would take here, it would be even more interesting if you were to take the {self-taught} route and not include bootcamps). :) Good luck to everyone!

[@sayakchakrabarty]

What kind of things do these companies do using python? I really like python and I will choose the one which uses more python.

[@craiggazimbi]

Thanks for the insight

[@charlesa1234]

Nice video, Like you I also prefer React over Angular

[@akin242002]

Python > PHP, so I like Google a lot more. I also use far more Google tools (Picasa, Gmail, youtube, ...etc). All Facebook has Facebook and Instagram.

[@bhavnarajde1430]

Thank you it was helpful for me

[@Sanyu-Tumusiime]

what about amazon and reddit and twitter and quora

[@MichaelYoussry]

Almost 200K subscribers!

[@enamahadtalash2869]

can anyone choose country where they would like to work as a software engineer in facebook or faang companies?

[@sheldon9415]

Are there going to be video explanations on assessments ?Keep up the good work!

[@NoBrainCode]

Can someone help me understand what he means by infrastructure Can you explain exactly what is it about

[@lifeofme3172]

Which company has a better work life balance ? 🤔

[@irvinge4641]

Can you do a tutorial on how to deploy a hello world app in a kubernetes cluster from scratch?

[@nicolimbara7326]

2 month team matching without offer yet. Did you get paid?

[@KevinWuWon]

Nice video! A few random thoughts: I disagree about the internal tools. Facebook internal tools generally have a better, easier-to-use UI, which is super important when you're not the kind of engineer who likes to spend all their time learning internal proprietary technologies. This is a consequence of the whole company deciding on one web stack (React+Hack) vs the 5+ at Google. And Google's Q&A is sometimes (in some offices) called TGIAF - Thank Goodness It's Almost Friday.

[@naiemofficial_]

Every people asking the same question a million times in google "How can I get a job at Google". The maximum time we can see someone got a job at Google as a software engineer. But we can't see that is there anybody else who isn't coder, software engineer or software developer/engineer. There's not only software engineer position at Google, Facebook, Microsoft, etc. Peoples are only buzzing and shouting software engineer, software engineer, software engineer. OMG, in short, I'm deaf for this buzz. Like if someone has the interest to get a job at Google except software engineer. Then how do he/she prepare himself? I don't know why people not asking the question.

[@LmAssasin]

Can you make a "What to look for in your first SWE role?" video

[@princesompura5658]

can you start live stream for coding

[@quatummind]

Can you make a video on How do you get fired or lose your job at Facebook or Google

[@pawel753]

With just two months in FB did you even finish your Bootcamp?

[@RahulPandey-jo6rk]

Hey what about Amazon, Apple?

[@emsourcemedia9178]

Which company is more likely to hire foreign student studying in the US

[@mauricio-poppe]

it doesn't matter where you're from or what degree you have, get noticed by a recruiter by your experience or by your projects outside work and do your best in the interviews!

[@schan263]

So you quit FB a few weeks after you completed the bootcamp. Can you interview someone who has a very successful career at Facebook to talk about how to be the top 5% software engineer at Facebook? I like that video that you made about how to be successful at Google. I like this video too btw and I hit the LIKE button.

[@commenter260]

I HAVE A DOUBT GUYSSSSSS..... IM LEARNING FRONT END DEV DO I NEED TO LEARN A PROGRAMMING LANG LIKE JAVA OR C++. SUPPOSE IF I APPLY AS AN FRONT END ENGINNER DO THEY ASK ME TO CODE IN JAVA OR C++ IN THE INTERVIEW.

[@benitocamelas7784]

Java and C++ programming languages are not meant for front-end, at the best Java is used for web backend services. UIf you wanna get started with front end you should learn the basics of HTML CSS and JS (mostly CSS tho) and then jump to React

[@ChocolateMilkCultLeader]

Now if only I could get an offer letter

[@abdellatiflabreche9518]

is a cs degree required to apply to an internship at google or facebook ?

[@Bhasker7474]

Yes, you have to working towards one

[@mgm8075]

If you’re not American then yes

[@abdellatiflabreche9518]

@@Bhasker7474 What about a related technical degree (like telecomunications for me) ?

[@aka3333]

Hi guys! who are first here to see his video.✋

[@Abhrodeep18]

What you think ( google or Facebook which is best)

[@crystal14w]

Tbh Microsoft is amazing :)

[@shivamd23]

Working in Microsoft (🇮🇳 development center) I agree with you completely

[@crystal14w]

@@shivamd23 Yes, the work culture there is very respectable :)

[@CodingJesus]

Neither? Congrats on 200K by the way!

[@shankarsuman8801]

Facebook pay is more but Work life balance is screwed.

[@27Football27]

What happened to “fazebook”

[@DarkSaiya-jinXCV]

do you even wanna work for either in them in this day and age???

[@rja62b]

wat about amazon

[@Spedfree]

This is a culture kind of question

[@hat_awesome21]

my mind tells , first let me get a job offer at these !

[@cascadengineering]

Yeah, I've been daydreaming about getting employed by Google to work on their internal developer tools or some other third-order project. That's literally the reason I'm living for.

[@kumarcgowda]

As if we have a choice to make 😃😃

[@iancuvlad7368]

I watched half a video so far but I think he prefers Google (slightly)

[@vinaykhobrekar384]

Are college degrees worth it ? Or are they just a waste of time ?

[@novemberjohns672]

It depends entirely on your makeup as a person. I’ve been in software development and architecture for about 12 years now, do not have a college degree, and make just over $250k/year. If you are aggressive, a self-starter, creative, intelligent, can communicate with well with others, able to learn like your life depends on it (cause it almost does), and MOST importantly envision and LIVE the success before it happens, then you may not need the degree. However, your experience and portfolio of work need to speak loudly.

[@dotterel]

You're not explaining what the perks are, you're just saying that they're amazing and equal. I'm 1/3 the way in. Whole lot of talking without saying anything. I love your videos, man, but you're just reaching for content with this one.

[@technospecial562]

Google is my dream

[@PrinjuVaidyan]

Wow Food? We barely even get salary😂

[@roccodipietro8302]

HOW-ever is the new FOR-ever

[@JOJO_THE_PROGRAMMER]

Angular vs React