Clone, replica or Counterfeit 2824 watch movement Update - Service & Performance Test

Join me as I present an update to the Clone or counterfeit watch movement - the ETA 2824 movement live stream from a few weeks ago. In this video I strip down and re-assemble the movement and test it's before and after performance. Are clone 2824's worth it? Let's find out together.
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[@WatchRepairChannel]

An update to the Clone or counterfeit watch movement - the ETA 2824 movement live stream from a few weeks ago. Have you serviced one of these? What are your thoughts?

[@Dan0rioN]

How can I identify cheap/fake vs real watches from their movements?

[@Split10uk]

I really enjoyed watching this...it was almost therapeutic. Great camera work and audio...thank you Mark

[@462904]

I suffer from high blood pressure and at the ripe old age of 62 am told it could be dangerous so I took my blood pressure before and after watching your assemble and disassemble of movements and guess what? My blood pressure drops to survivable limits . I am forever in your dept thank you most kindly brilliant work , can only be described as poetry in motion life saving watch maintenance bravo you my man are a star.👍👏🏻😃

[@fredleonard1547]

I've been retired from this work 15 yrs now, and I found it Verry interesting mate.

[@muffemod]

This is performance art at its best. Thank you for what you do for the community.

[@Throckmorton723]

Watching you wind the mainspring was hypnotic. Totally fantastic video. Thank you.

[@yellownp22541]

Perfect music to play while assembling the movement. As always another awesome video. Merci beaucoup pour votre aide.

[@jbbrabant]

Very informative and entertaining Mark. You have a calming effect when yo describe what you are doing and you exude confidence. I am often spell bound by your videos. Thank You.

[@tods.9947]

Terrific camera work! And quite an education. Thank you

[@karstensiegmarsson5304]

I could watch your videos for hours. That´s so inspiring, educating AND relaxing in one go.... on my 58" TV it looks like railway-rails putting together a tractor´s gearbox. But as I know the parts are extremely tiny.... just love it.

[@pieter798]

Hello Mark. Thanks again for this interesting video. I myself am not a watchmaker, but I find it very very relaxed to watch your videos, and you have a good taste for the music choice. Thank you.

[@MrMybigidea]

You sir are truly gifted and classy as they come. I enjoyed this video as I am sure to enjoy any videos you upload. Thank you.

[@VoicelessScream]

What an awesome video, top notch - topic, camera technic, voice over only when needed and soothing piano. I could watch this for hours hehe

[@donaldvincent]

Once again, I learn something with every video. A+++

[@rogerargueta5769]

You sir.... and your channel, are a god-send! I have recently gotten into watches and would like to be able to do my own repairs, mods and alterations. I and am reading some books but it is hard to grasp some things as I am trying to use my imagination with what I am reading. I am still scared of tinkering with my watches for fear of damaging them..... watching repair and hearing you expertly explain what and why you do.... is just priceless information to me. THANK YOU. There are no watch schools near me (I am in Los Angeles) and you are the best thing right now. Please keep the great videos coming... Ps. I also love the way you show what tools you use... explain why you use that tool and what other tool can be used to accomplish the same results.... Bergeon and Horotec tools are not cheap... and is just another important reason I appreciate your videos... Fan for life!!!

[@AG5CC-USA]

Superbly produced video and content -Thank you for your time and knowledge!

[@brynybach7741]

Another great video with lovely accompanying music. Very relaxing.

[@jonathanobrien1058]

Another great video of an ETA 2824 (okay counterfeit) strip down and rebuild. Cant wait to get the time to do this on a spare seagull movement I have. Really looking forward to the Seagull review!! Thanks again for the great content Mark

[@gryfandjane]

Very interesting, and thanks yet again! I marvel at how smoothly your reassemblies seem to go. I always have a dickens of a time with trainwheel pivots refusing to engage when replacing their bridge, screws snapping out of the tweezers, etc. But I still very much enjoy watch servicing, and your lessons have been invaluable.

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

You do not want to skimp on tweezers or screwdrivers. If you have quality tweezers, you are probably squeezing them too tight. Squeeze them gently with just enough pressure to hold them

[@philiporrow7906]

Another excellent informative video Mark,with may I say the best incidental music 😎

[@ralphf8951]

I'm going to take your course soon. You are a great teacher!

[@jafi37]

Your tweezer and fastener handling is mesmerizing! You make it look easy.... Can’t wait to give it a go my self. Great video programming.

[@cashau2965]

Another one of your great videos ! Thanks Mark!

[@patrickdehaan3670]

Enjoyable review, Mark. Thank you and looking forward to the Seagull 🕊⏱

[@bjornhansen9659]

Great video! I personally built my own watch with a seagull 2842 clone a couple months ago, so I’m very much looking forward to your next video.

[@kristianlewis5520]

Really found that video very relaxing indeed. Thank you.

[@Jwmtepas]

What a tutor. Great. Great learning points. Thanks.

[@markguitarlfk]

Lovely camera work, as always.

[@philrant2408]

Beautiful workmanship.

[@SoCalWatchReviews]

You sir are a bad ass! This video had me feeling very relaxed!

[@TautologyTechSystems]

Great video man. Really like your content.

[@rodschermerhorn6996]

Love the music and you are an artist!

[@peterm3964]

Good honest well informed opinion . Well done and thankyou.

[@adrianbirkett594]

Well done, looking forward to the seagull!👍🍀

[@kentbetts]

The Chinese Seagull Clone 2824 - ST 2130, Service and Review kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ_OoYibq8eIobs The Chinese Seagull 2824 UPDATE - Plus, the Competition Winners kzbin.info/www/bejne/mpKZoZKBl9OdjsU

[@danwolfe7665]

This was a mesmerizing video to me!

[@Mac4Willy]

Amazing. So relaxing and interesting.

[@mauanderuk]

Excellent as always

[@queenguard]

Your the best mark i learned a lot from you

[@maxmaxvot891]

wow, so much entertaining to watch you working with that gear.👍👍

[@raykall]

This is art and you are very talented.

[@richardsinclair9449]

Thank you for your vid, it was so relaxing.

[@PalofGrrr]

I stand in awe

[@greatlakescruiser5720]

Very interesting and educational vid. Thank You!

[@rbmwiv]

Putting a watch together makes building a engine seem like child’s play. The parts are so tiny. Love watching these videos.

[@revb0]

Love the way all the components go exactly where they should. When I try you can guarantee springs will spring and screws will disappear over my shoulder.

[@EquilibristMsk]

Good work! :) I watch your videos like a hypnotized man.

[@miguelreyes7880]

And I watch it like a man in a coma pppppfffffttt newb ......dweeb lol 😂😃😉

[@TomTom-up1kz]

Very good thanks for you mark

[@domenicfp]

Thank you for video. It was very interesting.

[@charlesfield9286]

very nicely done! thank you.

[@danielliaw6860]

I love you, I am buying your course once I have a better internet connection for the video streaming

[@wojciechslusarczyk8523]

AN ARTIST! AT WORK!

[@cedarcanoe]

So interesting! Thanks a lot!!

[@renebehr5785]

The music fits perfectly. Thanks for the video update!

[@e.eeyore2862]

Loved the music!

[@Kraken1000]

I have a Seagull 1963. Beautiful movement. Great watch. The crown has partially jammed though and needs lubricating. Not something I can do. I watch these vids because I like watches, I'm no watchmaker!

[@VicOrlando]

I'm learning a lot and getting familiar with things.

[@robertcalkjr.8325]

Thanks Mark!

[@Danny_Lopez_]

Great video.

[@BigDuke6ixx]

Great video. Ok the movement is a bastard, weaned in the gutter, but you've lifted in out, adopted it and given it....hope. My lip is trembling now, in a sad/happy way. :)

[@Freeedy]

Very good video presentation. KZbin learning is great education.

[@antraciet]

I subbed ! Amazing channel.

[@marcelomerchan4662]

thanks, great knowledge

[@strannostrannovasrr]

I am really looking forward to your next vid. Thanks for this one.

[@jackwright1070]

Mesmerizing.

[@giampaolop5775]

Bellissimo video!!!

[@luancostabr]

Good work Thaks .

[@dennisneo1608]

Damn, what a great video. I don't know how anyone does it, let alone the Chinese with lesser materials.

[@bulanpuspithasari7069]

I am very happy with this video, bravo watch repair, please make video repair hairspirng, thaks from Indonesia country

[@gixxergeezer4171]

c'est formidable !

[@elekn711]

Wow the amplitude was 300 pluss thats realy good would live to see how its doing in a year of use !!..great vid !!

[@ysyok]

Awesome

[@dim.pantl84]

Very relaxing and helpful video. Many chinese replica watches using these dirty and low quality movements.

[@drewsmith6066]

Cool video

[@privateinfo4820]

Wow …. amazing video.. just wow ...

[@Tobi_Jones]

good video, good music

[@ColinPrince]

Great video. Almost relaxing to watch you re-assemble the watch as bad as it was..

[@miguelreyes7880]

Damn it's exhilarating!!!

[@axelfoley1768]

Nice job

[@lavleshvashishtha1488]

Wow nice video

[@audemarspiguetlive7770]

nice video

[@abdulmokta48]

Wtf, who had brains like this. God gifted.

[@lightube12]

i am addicted to watch repair channel . thanks for sharing your knowledge, great work !

[@ImGdiddy]

Well, darn it! I recently bought one of these. If I has seen this before, I would have spent the extra money for the Seagull.

[@arseniocarlosbarbosa8265]

Congratulations. I am from Brasil and assist your videos. By.

[@1SaG]

These videos make me wish I had trained to become a watchmaker ... :)

[@jasonwalsh9211]

Very much enjoyed this video and some great camera work. Quick question, how long would it normally take to strip, clean and reassemble a 2824 movement? Thanks

[@richardshortman5645]

Great job, that thing makes a Molinya movement look quality. Per a watchmaker I have listened to all from the middle empire are dry. The work you put into this, it would be better to buy from Ofrei.

[@tommysimsek2125]

Another great vid, what cleaning solution do you use?

[@haseenahmad3124]

Jon love you

[@MyRetroWatches]

Hi Mark, is that an auto oiler you are using? I have often contemplated these but the price is prohibitive. I would really like to hear your thoughts. Thanks as always for your content!

[@spidiq8]

Hi Mark, I've recently discovered your channel and am thoroughly enjoying it having dabbled a little in pocket watches in the past and being something of a (cheaper) watch collector. How would you suggest telling the difference between something like the seagull 2824 vs the ones in this video as I'm quite fancying having another dabble and have and nice case that one would fit which just now is fitted with a cheap broken movement which is most likely one like you show? Thanks.

[@johnutting9615]

Mark great vidio mmagic watchwork . Just noticed in a previous vid you wound the mainspring anticlockwise and then fitted into the barrel. Question how do you know which direction clock or anti clock wind the main spring .cheers

[@benjanaranjo]

Incredible!, i have a question, In this 2824 clones (Seagull, Shangai, Valanvron,etc) do you have to take the stem in hand setting position, date change, or winding position?

[@Gary-Seven-and-Isis-in-1968]

Your videos are indeed very therapeutic. Now I also want to have a go at repairing 2 old watches that I've accumulated over the last few years, namely Chinese "Homage" watches (Sewor SW043) looks like a Divers watch but certainly isn't in anyway waterproof. The movement in this watch looks like no other that I've seen on anyone's KZbin watch fix videos. It is is probably something that you would consider to be a piece of junk. After all, you regularly service real Rolex watches and not some £13 knock off from China. But in it's defense, I would say that after acquiring a good example, one without what appeared to be a single nasal hair fouling the hair spring. A really disgusting discovery. This watch is really capable of keeping excellent time. O.K so it took 2 replacements from eBay before I eventually got a watch that has lasted for more than a year and is still going strong. And now I have 2 watches at hand to attempt to make into one good watch. There lies the problem, I've never seen anyone do a strip down and reassembly video of this movement. After looking on eBay to see if anyone there sells this movement, (because I wanted to learn it's name or code number) I came away with the idea that this movement is unique to watch manufacture only and is never sold on the open market. I would think that many who watch your videos would have similar non working junk China watches laying around gathering dust at their homes. (nasal hair included). So would you consider making a video about servicing this movement and so inspiring more to have a go at what could be a very satisfying hobby.?

[@ZENERVOLTAGE]

Not going to lie.....seeing you put the train Bridge back on, spin the gears and all seated in their jewels instantly made me sick with envy!!! I've got steady hands, but not great optical equipment, so no matter how hard I try, it takes me what feels like forever to do!!!

[@robertgoidel]

Hi Mark, Do you use finger cots or a surgical glove to work on the watch movements? Thanks.

[@Sandbag1300]

Your findings on the counterfeit 2824 match my findings on automotive and household machine products from Chinese companies. The Chinese manufactured parts come with lower grade components and inferior quality controls. While the components work initially, I found that they last about 1/3 the time of non-Chinese manufactured components. From what I have learned, the Chinese will produce a quantity of product for a price. They set-up their shops to make a profit. That means that they use the least expensive raw components possible and do not incur expense to adjust machines or processes to maintain a quality control standard. Machines are fixed only when they break, not when they are making product out of specifications. No extra expense for quality control supervisors on the human production lines either. If possible, I stay away from any machined product from China as it is not worth my time to install it.

[@agmmissiontube1363]

hi sir, your channel is a GREAT help!! I am started to fixing my own eta 7750 and 2824-2 and your step by step videos are great! I do have a quick question.. My stem for 2824-2 was stuck so i had to disassembled, facing two problems.. i was finally able to fix the locking issue with the stem but it is no longer self winding.. before if the stem is all the way in you can rotate the watch to get it going without shaking the watch to start,. after i reassembled it is not doing that.. Also the date wheel is not moving smoothly. Could you please help me!!! I spent straight 4 hours and another 2 hours yesterday and making no progress. Truly have a great respect for you and other professional watch person.

[@irfanmandore3226]

Hi Mark. Your video is great, informative, and easy to understand. Soo i have problem with my seiko watch, the beat of i call "balancing wheel" is to fast. That make my watch not accurate. How to fix my problem.? Tks.

[@civiprepper]

Great video, very interesting. what is the song on this video?