The Murderous Maid who betrayed her best friend... | Jane La Puebla

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Coffeehouse Crime

Coffeehouse Crime

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@CoffeehouseCrime
@CoffeehouseCrime Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching folks. I have two VERY interesting cases coming next week! If you have any suggestions please let me know below :) Also if you’re interested in NordVPN you can find my link here ➼ NordVPN.com/Coffeehousecrime
@JesusAlfonsoRafael
@JesusAlfonsoRafael Жыл бұрын
A quarter of your video was your Leftist politics and fearmongering over VPN's PS stick to the story bro
@olivermckenna6855
@olivermckenna6855 Жыл бұрын
A French lady murdered in Ireland 🇮🇪 Sophia le plant ..a lot of mystery and intrigue
@mh-zq2fm
@mh-zq2fm Жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian Greetings frm a Singaporean Thank you for all yr videos Really appreciate it 👍💕
@Sealife834
@Sealife834 Жыл бұрын
I would love to hear you tell the story of a Canadian serial killer who was a highly respected pilot..Col. Russell Williams. It is just crazy
@mradminus
@mradminus Жыл бұрын
Adrian, still think I can drink more coffee then you!
@倪文瑄
@倪文瑄 Жыл бұрын
Singaporean here. almost all maid agencies have 2 things that make this case more complicated. The first of which is that most maid contracts stipulate that their EMPLOYERS are charged with buying adequate food for their domestic workers, not for DWs to buy it themselves. This is the same for healthcare as well. sadly due to limited oversight, there are too many cases where abusive employers refuse to do this and starve their DWs as well as refuse them medical treatment. secondly; women coming from overseas to work as Domestic Workers are often slammed with thousands of dollars worth of "agency fees" without the prior knowledge of the girls (to the extent where it could qualify as modern slavery). This drives them into poverty as if they cannot pay off their agency fees, they can't go home even at the end of their contract and will need to keep working. They are often forced to let interest on these fees accumulate as if they choose to pay it off then they wouldn't be able to send money back home. It's a disgusting practice that traps these women in these agencies. This is the background behind why they were taking loans - many Singaporeans don't know this and have the conception that "those people" just are frivolous with money, which isn't the case. Local activists trying to secure better labor rights for DWs are regularly arrested and monitored. It's not the utopia people think.
@bekindrewind9675
@bekindrewind9675 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this interesting insight
@倪文瑄
@倪文瑄 Жыл бұрын
@@bekindrewind9675 no problem! people often have limited insight into this issue even within the country
@bekindrewind9675
@bekindrewind9675 Жыл бұрын
It must be so hard and scary leaving your home country to look for work elsewhere. And then to be exploited so terribly is heart breaking.
@kaceycruz3870
@kaceycruz3870 Жыл бұрын
From the Philippines and I know there so many agencies that charges ridiculous amount of money so no wonder people don’t end up earning enough to pay their agency, for living and for sending to family desperate situations indeed
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
@@倪文瑄 I second this, thank you for your comment, it was really interesting to read
@TheVideoViper
@TheVideoViper Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for naming the videos after the victims, they're the important part of the story and the ones that deserve to be remembered
@whoisharo4689
@whoisharo4689 Жыл бұрын
Oh wow i just realized that! Most true crime vids are named after suspects. Cool!
@cynthiapressley8455
@cynthiapressley8455 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I was thinking the same thing. Thank you.
@eggspectations
@eggspectations Жыл бұрын
It genuinely pisses me off when people don't
@judeinLA.
@judeinLA. Жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree.
@All5AJz
@All5AJz Жыл бұрын
It's what I am upset about most. The killing becomes more about who did it than who suffered the crime. Jeffrey Dahmer prime example I can tell you his name but not any of his victims none there's never anything about the victims it's always about him.
@JustMe-xv8ne
@JustMe-xv8ne Жыл бұрын
My father once advised me never to borrow anyone money I can't overlook if not repaid. Best advise ever.
@ladyrani2438
@ladyrani2438 Жыл бұрын
Your father is a wise man. That is my policy 😉
@pickledragonrebel
@pickledragonrebel Жыл бұрын
Don't mean to be petty but this is a pet peeve of mine; you dont borrow ppl money, you loan ppl money. The person getting the money are the ones borrowing it. I don't mean to insult, just advising you of the error. That being said, your father was smart and that's what my mother had always said as well.
@willfranceschi4749
@willfranceschi4749 Жыл бұрын
My bad but I think u mean never "lend" anyone monies, wen you receive you are borrowing when you give you are lending.
@guywiththebottle
@guywiththebottle Жыл бұрын
@@willfranceschi4749 Monies?
@gerry0072
@gerry0072 Жыл бұрын
Ehhh
@jenniferolson961
@jenniferolson961 Жыл бұрын
“No one likes to find a dead body at work” I don’t like to find dead bodies on my off time either tbh
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@reptarcar
@reptarcar Жыл бұрын
@decimusvitae yea i instantly thought this 😂 i don't mind this channel's content but sometimes he really does say some strange things that don't entirely work
@chloecook4511
@chloecook4511 Жыл бұрын
​@@reptarcarbut it gives you an opportunity to comment.
@Blackhaze3000
@Blackhaze3000 Жыл бұрын
After she woke up from being smothered unconscious with a pillow, the other girl then jumped back on her and strangled her to death. That sounds like clear intent to kill to me, heat of the moment my ass
@jenniferann6956
@jenniferann6956 Жыл бұрын
I agree! Then she went and bought tools to cut up her body afterwards, she knew exactly what she was doing!! She can’t have had that much remorse! To actually spend the time to dismember her so called best friends body after she’d murdered her! Pure evil!! There’s no justice
@greenmaker882
@greenmaker882 Жыл бұрын
'A good friend will always stab you in the front.' Gwen took this quote literally. Thank you for covering this case. I love listening to you weekly. Godspeed.
@meganlangreck2488
@meganlangreck2488 Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate learning about these lesser known cases from other parts of the world, and the social factors that contribute to some of these horrifying and sad crimes.
@jph4852
@jph4852 Жыл бұрын
This was a well-known case in Singapore, Philippines and within Filipino circles around the world.
@riggs20
@riggs20 Жыл бұрын
Agreed! The sociocultural information gives us a better understanding of the circumstances leading up to the crime. This is one of my favorite true crime channels.
@charlottechoo
@charlottechoo Жыл бұрын
I really think your sympathy here is misplaced. In case it wasn't picked up in the video, this lady was able to buy an expensive digital camera (they were pricey at the time - which she refused to sell, prompting the fight), have weekend lunches at an expensive shopping district here locally (for those who are unaware, Orchard Road is a notoriously overpriced shopping district in Singapore), buy a myriad of cleaning supplies and dismemberment tools as well as wallpaper etc, go on a shopping trip after the murder, etc. None of the above suggests that she was living in poverty, but instead that her mismanagement of funds in living beyond her means likely caused her snowballing debt. Remember that as a live-in maid, her food and board were provided for (the 2 largest expenses in most people's budgets). Moreover, she was able to conceal the murder scene, dismember the body, go out and purchase cleaning supplies, clean up the mess in the employer's house without them even noticing. This suggests that she had a large degree of freedom in their absence and the run of the house (likely a very nice one) in their absence. Labour laws here also ensure that she was paid a living wage (Minimum wage laws are not the only determining factor to ensure a living wage. Singapore labour laws employs a progressive wage model for traditionally low wage professions which not only ensure a living wage but also provides a legal framework for progressive wage increases.). As a domestic helper, her medical bills are also covered by her employer under the law here. Her situation is much better than many others in her profession, and not at all similar to the definition of poverty (where one is unable to afford food or a place to live). Moreover, the reason for the violent fight was over her refusal to sell her expensive camera to repay her debt. Those were worth $500-$1800 back in the day. The fact that she bought one while being apparently indebted to loan sharks just goes on to highlight the level of her financial mismanagement. By comparison, my aunt's maid, spent her savings and her weekends attending a nursing course with her employers' full support, and is now a qualified nurse earning 5 times her original wage, other maids I have spoken to spend their weekends with friends at the park for a picnic or BBQ or join social clubs for free fun activities, meticulously saving every penny to send back home. Many have bought their families houses, farmland animals and put all of their younger siblings through school. While I have the deepest admiration for the women who put every effort towards bettering themselves and their families,by comparison, Guen is undeserving of sympathy. She killed her friend over a dispute over a camera and money, then carelessly dismembered her and discarded her body, and all in an effort, in my opinion, to live beyond her means.
@AyakoHideko
@AyakoHideko Жыл бұрын
@@charlottechoo Thank you for providing even more sociocultural context to the case as a local! With international cases, a lot of the comments seem pretty tone-deaf with their virtue signalling, so it's always nice to see someone share additional insight! :)
@Toxus8
@Toxus8 Жыл бұрын
@@jph4852 and?
@inkfeather1152
@inkfeather1152 Жыл бұрын
A suggestion for a case to look into: Bennylyn Burke. She was murdered by someone who actually created a popular and often recommended Japanese learning app. Her story deserves to be told, but also people are still buying this app and giving money to a monster because this case is barely covered.
@lillyofthenorth8798
@lillyofthenorth8798 Жыл бұрын
Omg, I haven't heard this but it sounds extremely important. Yes, please cover this, Coffeehouse Crime!!! I would hate for ppl to directly give funds to that person considering their actions
@kuroiasa
@kuroiasa Жыл бұрын
Hi, may I know what the app is? Is it Kanji Tree?
@SJ-007
@SJ-007 Жыл бұрын
Do you know what app it is please? I have a number of them, and having looked at this case (what happened to her daughter particularly is sickening 😡) I do not want to support, but I can't find which app it is? Ta!
@killinglonliness88
@killinglonliness88 Жыл бұрын
If you know what the app is, instead of complaining that people keep downloading it and spending money on it and supporting a monster, WHY DON'T YOU TELL EVERYONE THE NAME OF THE APP!?! Hello????? Best way to help us stop supporting them is to tell us what it is!!!
@inkfeather1152
@inkfeather1152 Жыл бұрын
@@killinglonliness88 Because when I did that KZbin deleted my comment for some reason... Though someone else responded to me with it and didn't get deleted so IDK what's going on. It is Kanji Tree.
@mome-ch496
@mome-ch496 Жыл бұрын
It’s so sad how money can ruin any type of relationship no matter how close you are 😞
@skycloud4802
@skycloud4802 Жыл бұрын
Money is the root of all evil
@LisaBowers
@LisaBowers Жыл бұрын
@@skycloud4802 The _love_ of money is the root of all evil.
@wintermoon7003
@wintermoon7003 Жыл бұрын
Money never ruined my friendships. But then again, I never really cared of they payed me back or not, especially when I knew they were struggling. But they always made an attempt to pay me back, some times it would be for an item, or doing a huge favor for me. I hate seeing people I care about struggle and if I can help, I will gladly help!
@elishh8173
@elishh8173 Жыл бұрын
@Winter Moon You sound like a very good person. Sending you love from Sweden. I too don't care much for money. I care more about my friends.
@goldeneagle4997
@goldeneagle4997 Жыл бұрын
Yes, thats what happened to me recently.....heartbreaking...
@loisannlovelace8988
@loisannlovelace8988 Жыл бұрын
10 years for murder and cutting up a body is nowhere near enough!!! A lot of us have financial issues and various other stressors. We don’t murder others. Sad case
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 Жыл бұрын
Don't expect a blue collar punishment for pink collar crime.
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain Жыл бұрын
Double standards, we all know why.
@solitairestarr5516
@solitairestarr5516 Жыл бұрын
Gwen (the so called murderer) had got into "financial issues" (i.e. DEBT) to help Jane. (the victim). Perhaps Gwen got in out of her depth? Perhaps Jane was ungrateful or felt entitled? Doesn't sound to me that the killing was premeditated, so it isn't murder but manslaughter or second degree murder depending where you live. Either way it is horrible, and so were the circumstances of both lives.
@katravi
@katravi Жыл бұрын
@@solitairestarr5516 there is one thing to kill someone in a moment of rage and a completely other to cut up the deceased person’s body and dispose of it like trash. One needs to be a psycho to be able to do that. I wouldn’t feel safe knowing such person lived anywhere within my proximity. So yeah, 10 years is nothing if you realize this person could do it again without any issues.
@clairelashaun4886
@clairelashaun4886 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. Very sad case.
@messyshein
@messyshein Жыл бұрын
Hi, Adrian! I'm from PH and my sister also works in Singapore. I really appreciate how you discussed that Filipinos often chose to migrate or work abroad- as it would greatly help their families back home. Another great upload! Good job!!!
@tomoates8568
@tomoates8568 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the United States, but I spent almost 2 years in the Philippines when I was about 20. Family was always the most important thing to everyone I met there and your people all have such a loving and giving spirit. I miss my time there, hopefully I can visit there again one day
@CyberusSuper
@CyberusSuper Жыл бұрын
I'VE flirted with a lot of OFWs in the past, and that's usually the reason why they would work abroad.
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 Жыл бұрын
OR they could improve their own countries so they don't have to leave.
@monkey6547
@monkey6547 Жыл бұрын
@@markmike7933 problem is the people keep voting the wrong leaders
@jonslg240
@jonslg240 Жыл бұрын
@@monkey6547 that's the main problem here too.
@nasuharoslan
@nasuharoslan Жыл бұрын
Thank you for raising this case. We, Singaporeans were so shocked by this when we saw it on the news. I remember my feeling of disbelief when I first came about it. Thank you for bringing this story from my country to light. RIP to the victim.
@humongousfungusamongus3871
@humongousfungusamongus3871 Жыл бұрын
If you want to make an enemy out of a good friend, 1. Move in together. 2. Money loans. 3. Throw a guy that they both like into the mix.
@vminhope3040
@vminhope3040 Жыл бұрын
Recipe for disaster.
@Fay_F_2
@Fay_F_2 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree , this is very well said !
@sy_dianne5224
@sy_dianne5224 Жыл бұрын
Yep, I experienced the moving in together...never again
@ODST626
@ODST626 Жыл бұрын
Yknow. Its funny. I actually knew 2 girls in high-school who fell under 2 of those 3 stipulations. I was the guy. You know what they did about it? The adult thing and agree their friendship was more important and that if I asked out either of them they agreed to say no. I did in fact ask 1 of them. And she did say no. They are still close to this day. No one died. Id say they (the people in the video) just didn't have a strong enough friendship
@leelee12123
@leelee12123 Жыл бұрын
@@sy_dianne5224For me going on a short break holiday together was enough! Never in a million years would I move in with a best friend.
@k8tina
@k8tina Жыл бұрын
A friend from the Philippines told me about her family members who migrated to other countries for work, only to be abused by their employers. Another friend living in Kuwait told me how people from SE Asia would come to the middle east for work and how horrible they were treated. This is a pervasive issue. Very sad 😔 I'm glad you are bringing attention to this.
@Mary-zd8xo
@Mary-zd8xo 11 ай бұрын
By the way, just for clarification, Jane’s employers were not Singaporeans. They were Indian nationals working in Singapore.
@extremers7047
@extremers7047 Жыл бұрын
Finally one of Singapore's gruesome cases is being shared. We don't have many interesting cases but this is one of those high up on the list when it happened. Hopefully you can share more cases that happened internationally. Keep up the good work!
@cats.addict6457
@cats.addict6457 Жыл бұрын
we still have few more cases in Singapore...
@dancingfirefly7761
@dancingfirefly7761 Жыл бұрын
Singapore looks magical in its beauty!
@carey579
@carey579 Жыл бұрын
Any place would be lucky to not have many interesting cases.
@Wasteland88
@Wasteland88 Жыл бұрын
He does international cases all the time.
@julieoluna8887
@julieoluna8887 Жыл бұрын
@@carey579 Exactly!
@Teresa-cg1yx
@Teresa-cg1yx Жыл бұрын
I do believe that in the heat of the moment, people can do all sorts of crazy things that they would normally never do; however, how can you dismember your friend's body? You have to slow down and think about what you are doing as you cut up the body parts and this just gives me chills!
@gordonaliasme1104
@gordonaliasme1104 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, death is a terrible solution to any problem 😨💀
@Tanya49655
@Tanya49655 Жыл бұрын
Exactly or in the time where her friend was passed out and woke back up you think she would be happy she wasn’t gonna go to jail or she didn’t kill her best friend but then she actually did. that’s not self-defense it was up until that point
@Danigoddamnit
@Danigoddamnit Жыл бұрын
Fear and panic are still relevant. She can well have done this in the heat of the moment, been absolutely terrified of the consequences of her rash mistake and finally killed her friend to avoid them, as it all came from desperation and mental illness. It doesn’t have to be preplanned for the perpetrator to try to hide the evidence, after all… Not to justify, but to offer a possible explanation. It’s devastating for the victim, that the person she called friend was lead to ever be in a situation like that in the first place, and had to pay for her proximity to it all.. genuinely sad for her.
@teresa1107
@teresa1107 Жыл бұрын
@@Tanya49655 I agree!
@nixpuk75
@nixpuk75 Жыл бұрын
@@Danigoddamnit she may have thought that the fight would continue when Jane came to and that she could be killed instead. It wasn't an attack, one on the other, as I understand it. They were emotional, scared and fighting for their lives. Especially if loan shark/gangsters were owed money and neither woman could pay. Very sad story
@cats.addict6457
@cats.addict6457 Жыл бұрын
I am also Singaporean and I am surprised and happy to see we are so many following you from our little red dot... I have suggested numerous of times stories from Singapore and Malaysia to some of my favorites KZbinrs, but it seems that nobody is really interested with South East Asia... Thanks Adrian to show your interest in our country ❤
@vivionnt
@vivionnt Жыл бұрын
same here!!! but i don’t rly agree that we have 1/6 1 mil disposable income thou. 😅
@ChicaBuenosAires
@ChicaBuenosAires Жыл бұрын
Whenever dismembering a body is involved, I honestly find it hard to believe it was in the heat of the moment. Maybe the killing was, but disposing the body in such a gruesome way is enough for me to believe they didn’t have that much remorse
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 Жыл бұрын
@The Cycle Only 10 years in prison for murder in a country that kills people for drug possession? Sounds like she succeeded to me.
@flayful
@flayful Жыл бұрын
Must have took her so many hours to dismember her friend. And her employers could have walked in any time. So I understand your point that the killer in this case lacks remorse. 🙈
@clairelashaun4886
@clairelashaun4886 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@nou257
@nou257 Жыл бұрын
same. if you were just so angry at the time you accidentally killed someone, how could you stomach dismembering them after, especially whom you were once friends with?
@idakristinedemesa5234
@idakristinedemesa5234 11 ай бұрын
@@nou257The fear of getting caught is much stronger. Filipino migrant workers are almost always the provider and breadwinner in the family. She must have thought what would happen to her family if she was caught.
@bylene7642
@bylene7642 Жыл бұрын
As an OFW(Overseas Filipino Worker) -Filipino teacher here in mainland China, I know we work so hard not only to help our immediate but also our extended family. We want them to enjoy a much better quality of life. And I’m extremely lucky to have a good job and good expat community. So sad to hear about this case. 😢😢😢May her soul rest in peace!
@pmhernane3903
@pmhernane3903 Жыл бұрын
I love how Adrian digs deeper to the story instead of just narrating them. Knowing parts of the background of victim and suspect gives clearer perspective on the crime. It makes us think and sympathise but at the same time it reminds thay we or people around us can be involved in the same situation of we do not became careful of our thoughts and surroundings.
@daniwhizzbxng
@daniwhizzbxng Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite channels because I can always count on Adrienne covering a case I've never heard of. As a true crime junkie, I feel I've heard of them all. Much appreciated 🖤
@pickledragonrebel
@pickledragonrebel Жыл бұрын
Me too. I always look to Adrien for cases I haven't heard.
@sloth14
@sloth14 Жыл бұрын
10 years for killing her "best friend" and dismembering her body??!!
@D_Auvenshine
@D_Auvenshine Жыл бұрын
It’s crazy huh!it should be life imprisonment
@assasin19991999
@assasin19991999 3 ай бұрын
In Singapoore you get death penalty for druugs
@jaquelinecosta3121
@jaquelinecosta3121 Жыл бұрын
My mom always said to not borrow money from family or friends, even close friends, and I never understood why as I trust my closest friends. Hearing this story now I understand why...people change when money issues are involved...
@Fay_F_2
@Fay_F_2 Жыл бұрын
They totally change , it’s a very risky and complicated type of situation when money is involved not all the time but I’d say 80% of the time. It’s best to never discuss what your income is with friends even. Some things need to be kept private . In general it’s best to avoid any financial interactions between close friends
@thethmooteresa
@thethmooteresa Жыл бұрын
@@Fay_F_2 absolutely, many thanks guys for life lessons
@SimplyMe-b3d
@SimplyMe-b3d Жыл бұрын
Yes people kill father, mother , sisters, brothers , daughters, sons for money. Money really is all evil
@micahsabio6602
@micahsabio6602 Жыл бұрын
@@Fay_F_2 I have to be transparent to my closest friends coz I’m broke as fuck and they love to eat out I had to😂
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
@@micahsabio6602 😁🤣😂
@Thegriff19
@Thegriff19 Жыл бұрын
That manslaughter charge should of been out of the question as soon as she used a cleaver to dismember parts of her body...so disgusting...10 years for MURDER. Justice system everywhere is total BS.
@deviloon8611
@deviloon8611 Жыл бұрын
I understand remorse But the murderer literally dismembered someone and tried to hide Frikin joke
@ishidaxnemui
@ishidaxnemui Жыл бұрын
@@deviloon8611 I don't think you can argue she tried to hide the evidence, given how public both places were. No one in their right mind would think "ah, this is a good hiding spot"
@deviloon8611
@deviloon8611 Жыл бұрын
@@ishidaxnemui maybe hiding is a big word It should be more like dumping ig
@jeanferguson9063
@jeanferguson9063 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, this is just common sense... 🤷‍♂️
@ishidaxnemui
@ishidaxnemui Жыл бұрын
@@deviloon8611 I get what you mean, there's probably a small line between dumping and hiding. Usually when I watch videos like this, the majority of them try to cover it up somehow, but this is such a non-sensical way of going about it that it makes her mental issues more believable, at least for me. But yes, the dismembering is very messed up
@nichosand9185
@nichosand9185 Жыл бұрын
Its so weird how a normal persons first thought is to dismember and decapitate her best friends body instead of coming forward and trying to explain what happened or facing her consequences.
@martyshwaartz971
@martyshwaartz971 Жыл бұрын
If you murder someone you clearly aren’t a normal person hah
@lexell21
@lexell21 Жыл бұрын
@@martyshwaartz971 i think anyone under the right circumstances can kill, but to butcher them definitely requires a special kind of person
@ChibiKeruchan
@ChibiKeruchan Жыл бұрын
an Extrovert will definitely come forward and surrender. an introvert will probably do the same she did. haha it has something to do with people who are good at hiding things. the first thing that comes to her mind is to hide it
@Angie-Magi-ATIN-Army
@Angie-Magi-ATIN-Army Жыл бұрын
Mentally troubled
@hotmess9640
@hotmess9640 Жыл бұрын
“Your best friend being the reason of your death” a friend of mine can relate. May he Rest In Peace. It was an accident but it’s crazy how you can hang out with someone all the time for years and they’re the reason for your death.
@ctrinidad5581
@ctrinidad5581 Жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you give the psychological aspect of the crime. Sometimes adding context gives more information on the judgment of the outcome, leaving viewers for opinions. Interestingly enough, you have deep understanding of human behaviour considering that you are Quality Engineer by profession, if I am not mistaken. Your insight and compassion towards Filipino OFW is touching.
@mariatina72
@mariatina72 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for showcasing this case from my country. We always believe "low crime does not mean no crime." This was one of the most saddest and senseless death . RIP jane .
@criticalcredo
@criticalcredo Жыл бұрын
I really feel bad for both of these people… as someone who struggles with mental health, and has been homeless multiple times, I understand mindlessly doing rediculous things, but every human is responsible for their actions, and my deepest sadness and sympathies are with the family.. god this one hit me. Thank you, Adrian!
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
I hope things are going well for you now and I wish you every good thing and many successes moving forward in your life. God bless.
@FranklinDelanorRoosevelt
@FranklinDelanorRoosevelt Жыл бұрын
First case from my country and I’ve never heard of it 😅 Probably ‘cause it happened so early on in my childhood . You’re truly a master of surprises.Keep up the good work Adrian!
@pherasabraxas
@pherasabraxas Жыл бұрын
Damn dude! You always find stories I've never heard of but that's a good thing. Everyone deserves to have their story told and you do a great job of telling us about the victims. It's sad how many are forgotten, so thank you for shedding some light on them.
@imwithstupid086
@imwithstupid086 Жыл бұрын
Another story you might want to look into is that of Flor Contemplacion. Similar situation: she was a Filipina domestic helper that killed a fellow domestic helper (and a child). This case became quite controversial back here in the Philippines. So controversial in fact, our politicians got involved and relations with Singapore was strained.
@cats.addict6457
@cats.addict6457 Жыл бұрын
excellent suggestion
@mommy2libras
@mommy2libras Жыл бұрын
Seems kind of ironic that Phillipine politicians try to point out what is wrong with the justice system in another nation when theirs is notoriously horrible.
@imwithstupid086
@imwithstupid086 Жыл бұрын
@@mommy2libras Distractions, distractions.
@doodahgurlie
@doodahgurlie Жыл бұрын
@@imwithstupid086 Misdirection. "Look over there!" so people won't look at what's really happening at home.
@judeinLA.
@judeinLA. Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this case. I wonder what caused politicians to get involved.
@marivipalomino6975
@marivipalomino6975 Жыл бұрын
Poor Guen too. By borrowing money on behalf of her friend she acted out of the goodness of her heart. If Jane had been a good friend she wouldn't have taken the money knowing she couldn't pay back which would put her friend in a greater predicament. She also refused to sell certain items she had, to pay back and even acted offended by the thought which triggered the argument. Either of them could have been killed, but it was Jane. Not that she deserved to die over this but I can see how things escalated. I believe Guen did not intend to kill Jane, she herself had been injured by Jane. I guess seeing Jane regain consciousness scared her because she felt threatened. It is what she did with her body what bothers me. That wasn't done in the heat of the moment. A very unfortunate case.
@CoffeeCrazy
@CoffeeCrazy Жыл бұрын
I agree, she should have let Jane deal with her financial issues.
@nou257
@nou257 Жыл бұрын
yeah, why dismember the body? if you felt any remorse and knew you didn’t genuinely mean to kill your friend, how could you stomach dismembering them?? which takes so much time to do?? just seeing your friend’s lifeless body and mutilating it more? umm… i probably wouldve felt bad for guen if she didnt have to dismember jane
@_Oh_Well_
@_Oh_Well_ Жыл бұрын
@@nou257 Yep, that speaks volumes. Brutality is what this is. Utterly Inhumane.
@raikey2176
@raikey2176 Жыл бұрын
@@nou257 That's why the 10 years sentence is not enough. Her act was more of a serial killer over a money issue that can be replaced or earn eventually. I'm a Filipino from the Philippines here.
@adesewaadeyeni2257
@adesewaadeyeni2257 Жыл бұрын
Well said.
@jackierobinson6388
@jackierobinson6388 Жыл бұрын
So, so sad. Sympathetically narrated as always. Thank you.
@armphidiic2609
@armphidiic2609 Жыл бұрын
Seems like she got off light for killing someone. I'm also suspicious of killers that claim the victim caused a fight that led to the murder being believed since the victim can't say anything in their defense.
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the pink collar defense blinds people to the true nature of the crime.
@deniseelsworth7816
@deniseelsworth7816 Жыл бұрын
Yes the victim could have been fighting like mad to stay alive thus causing the murderers injury.
@sarahholland2600
@sarahholland2600 Жыл бұрын
At the autopsy, defensive wounds on the victims body would tell who the aggressor was though. And lack of serious wounds on the suspect would be a 'tell' as well.
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
@@deniseelsworth7816 True, but there are also cases I've seen where after the victim is dead, the perp will cut/scratch/bruise themself to make it look like something more happened. Heck even in non-murd3r cases it happens like photos that are altered to look like bruises in DV cases.
@elishh8173
@elishh8173 Жыл бұрын
What a horrible sickening crime. Poor Jane. May she rest in paradise.
@k.m.5819
@k.m.5819 Жыл бұрын
How terribly sad 😢 Rest in peace Jane 🕊🌷 Prayers for your family 🙏
@leandrasmith825
@leandrasmith825 Жыл бұрын
Adrian you are so very good at your videos, so respectful to the victim and family. Thank you for amazing content. Take care of yourself researching these cases, it must get hard at times ❤️
@guywiththebottle
@guywiththebottle Жыл бұрын
8:41 "Now, nobody likes to find a dead body while at work." I agree. I prefer to wait until after work...
@ajtaylor8750
@ajtaylor8750 Жыл бұрын
AWWWWW man this case. Talk about heartbreaking and just plain out brutal. Another great day with a Coffeehouse Crime upload! ☕
@lowlowseesee
@lowlowseesee Жыл бұрын
“Great day” right after a horrendous story? Yea ok
@rebecculousrk
@rebecculousrk Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy these international cases of which I’d never heard. After over 20 years as a true crime buff, the well known American murders are reported on to absolute death. Thank you for your creative and diverse approach to this genre. You are keeping it interesting. 😊
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
"American murders are reported on to absolute death."
@ylocoslovakia
@ylocoslovakia Жыл бұрын
As a Filipino, I am so sad to watch this disheartening story between two Filipinas working abroad. Such is the sad case of most workers who are separated from family and home that they get so depressed and end up in dire straits. RIP Jane. May Guen find peace in her life. 🙏
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain Жыл бұрын
Yeah, may Guen finds peace in her life, because she is alive. She dismembered her friend, and cleaned the place, but yeah, it was all the depression and the anxiety. 10 years. Talk about double standards. I don't wish her any peace.
@konanfeefee8945
@konanfeefee8945 Жыл бұрын
​@@The-Man-On-The-Mountain Double standards? Why? Having an untreated depression and anxiety combined with unexpected turn of events had lead her to kill her friend. I am not justifying what she did. What I'm trying to say is that, mental health negligence will lead to disastrous events. This case only shows how worse a person with untreated depression and anxiety will turn out to be, once everything will become out of control. It's either that person will kill him/herself or will kill other people.
@plc8653
@plc8653 9 ай бұрын
Omg from someone who has major depression and anxiety, I do feel her. The money burden from loan sharks and family needs overwhelmed her. She genuinely wanted to help her friend but it was a wrong move!
@journalaway4753
@journalaway4753 Жыл бұрын
such crimes are really very very rare here in Singapore, I'm like half happy half surprised to see my country featured on my favourite crime channel :D I was a student when this case happened and I still remember the details of the case. thanks for another great feature! looking forward to see more refreshing content from you
@Veldrusara
@Veldrusara Жыл бұрын
It's so beautiful there! You're so lucky! I'll never be able to travel there, but I'd sure love to...
@firstnamelastname9215
@firstnamelastname9215 Жыл бұрын
Talk less
@Veldrusara
@Veldrusara Жыл бұрын
@@firstnamelastname9215 We're not talking. We're typing. Go home, trollyollyoxenfree.
@Sorchia56
@Sorchia56 Жыл бұрын
@@Veldrusara That was brilliant!!😂😂😂
@mahiru9114
@mahiru9114 Жыл бұрын
In countries like Japan or Singapore where crime rate is low and is pretty much safe, when a crime does happen it's always the worst and some of most gruesome/disgusting case ever
@cme7527
@cme7527 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much Adrian for covering cases from all over the world
@hansplourde
@hansplourde Жыл бұрын
10 years for killing someone is absurd no matter the who, how, why... in my opinion
@naamahlee40
@naamahlee40 Жыл бұрын
Right especially suffocating someone to death that takes time and energy. She could’ve backed out. It’s just sad
@niewieder99
@niewieder99 Жыл бұрын
Especially when a man with an IQ of 69 was hung for drug trafficking. Yep. Well done Singapore.
@WallysMama
@WallysMama Жыл бұрын
My cousin is from the Philippines and is working as a domestic helper in Hong Kong. She has a 11 year old and is raising her by herself as the sperm donor is absent by choice. Everything you said about money and work in the Philippines is true 😢 Stories like this make my stomach churn.
@biohazardlnfS
@biohazardlnfS Жыл бұрын
😬
@hollowplacesblog
@hollowplacesblog Жыл бұрын
Learning about these lesser known cases is so interesting. I really enjoy the calm, respectful way you narrate the ins and outs of some horrible human behaviours.
@crystalphillips696
@crystalphillips696 Жыл бұрын
Such a light sentence for such a horrible crime. Bless Jane's soul and her family.
@louisescott4486
@louisescott4486 Жыл бұрын
I discovered your interesting stories. You cover so many stories that I didn't even know of. And I'm a crime junkie. Thank you for a variety. Sending greetings from South Africa. 🇿🇦
@Angelstar7774
@Angelstar7774 Жыл бұрын
How could it be manslaughter when as Jane woke up Gwen strangled her, she certainly wasn’t facing a life or death situation then.
@nazxshaa
@nazxshaa Жыл бұрын
have been watching this channel for long but never did I thought a case from Singapore, my home country would be covered. with murders being rare in our country, this was headline news when it happened. thank you for covering it. always a fan.
@TSC-hr7ir
@TSC-hr7ir Жыл бұрын
10 years Discusting Her Friend will come back to haunt Her
@misseden0218
@misseden0218 Жыл бұрын
I'm from the PH but haven't heard of this case. Dang. What a gruesome and sad case. Thank you as always, Adrian.
@junehalog024
@junehalog024 Жыл бұрын
At that time, we are facing tremendous shifts in our government. PGMA, at that time, is facing impeachment and our country is in a state of chaos so pretty much news and cases like these flew under the radar... That and perhaps due to the quick resolution of the case made were reasons why we barely heard of it at that time.
@sqrd3536
@sqrd3536 Жыл бұрын
The whole plan, making sure her friend was dead and how she cleaned the house and behaved normally when her employers came back home is the most shocking part of the story. Money is man's enemy.
@zeenagirl149
@zeenagirl149 Жыл бұрын
Humans are our own enemy
@christellajune
@christellajune Жыл бұрын
She didn't plan anything. It waa clearly a kill or be killed situation
@LightBeing369
@LightBeing369 Жыл бұрын
The LOVE of money is Man's enemy
@positiveego5397
@positiveego5397 Жыл бұрын
@@LightBeing369 money is not the problem, greed and desires are.
@9teen9t4
@9teen9t4 Жыл бұрын
The love of money, not money itself. Money is just a tool, neither good nor bad, just a means to an end.
@karinasolnce6232
@karinasolnce6232 Жыл бұрын
My mom always taught me it's dangerous to lend money to friends- that it garuntees the end of your friendship. It's better to gift money. What a tragic story. 😥
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 Жыл бұрын
You would really gift a couple thousand dollars to a deadbeat friend?
@meniah710
@meniah710 Жыл бұрын
Last night I was just searching about this case...I almost screamed when you uploaded this a few hours later...HOW TIMELY!!
@the_males
@the_males Жыл бұрын
I was a Singaporean and your description abt Sg is spot on!! Love the honesty and the proper research you did on this micro country 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 Oh! And really love your videos!
@dustyice4111
@dustyice4111 Жыл бұрын
Was a Singaporean ? Even if you migrate to another country, one is still Singaporean by origin, ya ? Just wondering.... I may have immigrated to another country but I will always be a Singaporean at heart. 🇸🇬😁🇸🇬
@the_males
@the_males Жыл бұрын
@@dustyice4111 was as in nationality. I have since renounced, so it’s a was, ya…
@darlingpepper
@darlingpepper Жыл бұрын
I just wanted to say how much I love your YT channel and cannot stop binging all your episodes! On the topic of Filipino domestic workers in Singapore, there was another case between two Filipinas. Flor Contemplacion and Delia Maga. Flor was convicted of murdering Delia and her employer's young son and was executed by hanging. I was born and raised in the Philippines and remembered hearing all about this in the mid 90s. Just thought I'd share this in hopes that you'd be interested to cover it too! Cheers, mate!
@sv7619
@sv7619 Жыл бұрын
You are my fav crime channel!! You always give a country/local info before providing the case with calming storytelling voice! 🙏
@flayful
@flayful Жыл бұрын
I'm a Filipino too and used to dream of working abroad. The advice that I often hear around me is "If you work or happen to live with fellow Filipinos out there, don't trust em. They're often the ones to backstab/betray you (by stealing, slander, etc) compared to foreigners." 😱 I talked to my friends who live and work abroad and they have similar experiences to tell... Sadly, this case has further solidified that advice... ☹️ This reality is just too sad and tragic.
@BrolicHistory
@BrolicHistory Жыл бұрын
This is the case with any group of people that look alike. Don’t go anywhere except america, you will become a slave anywhere else. Even europe
@bb-yk5cc
@bb-yk5cc Жыл бұрын
Adrian we all appreciate you for making such contents. Thanks for making our lives better and safer. Stay safe everyone ♥️
@Satan-ub7we
@Satan-ub7we Жыл бұрын
@@MsTinkerbelle87 then don’t watch it
@bb-yk5cc
@bb-yk5cc Жыл бұрын
@@MsTinkerbelle87 why?
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 Жыл бұрын
How does he make your life safer??? I guess you're not outside to get hurt if you're watching this :)
@sarahalbers5555
@sarahalbers5555 Жыл бұрын
I think the point is, that thru these stories, he raises awareness. And yes, we do appreciate Adrian.
@mayi4741
@mayi4741 Жыл бұрын
This case is so sad... I'm from the PH but I had no idea this ever happened... Probably bc I was too young at the time. Anw!! Beautifully narrated as always. I really like how you give emphasis on what lead to the crimes than just going to the murder itself. Humanizes the victims so much more.
@iant93893
@iant93893 Жыл бұрын
A huge THANK YOU for naming the victim, rather than the murderer in the video title!
@zek7353
@zek7353 Жыл бұрын
Good evening from Singapore 🇸🇬 I'm surprised to see a case featuring crime that happened on our tiny island. By the looks of this introduction, I'm guessing both best friends are/were domestic helpers from the Philippines. We do need more protection and mandatory off days for domestic helpers here, many work long hours and deal with unreasonable demands from employers. I don't actually recall reading about this case at all. The local papers sanitise cases by simply reporting them as "unnatural" or "police suspect foul play" and investigations are ongoing with little follow up until months or even years later. We had one dramatic case of a local, elderly man who murdered his high profile son-in-law for cheating on his daughter and business some years ago. Might be worth covering on your channel.
@smoothride7841
@smoothride7841 Жыл бұрын
Let's hope he'd cover this case one of these days -- it'd be interesting.
@elishh8173
@elishh8173 Жыл бұрын
Sorry but the rich of your country seem to treat the poor Philippinians as slaves. This of course leads to desperate situations. Please complain to the people in power. Your country is starting to be known for modern slavery and not beautiful nature anymore...
@MsLinjohn
@MsLinjohn Жыл бұрын
stingy employers
@suzanneenz2913
@suzanneenz2913 Жыл бұрын
Z
@smoothride7841
@smoothride7841 Жыл бұрын
@@MsLinjohn & Imelda keeps buying more shoes.
@kittyk.klandasions7008
@kittyk.klandasions7008 Жыл бұрын
Dang!!!! I Never Knew Singapore was So Beautiful!! Futuristic mixed with Green Goodness 🌼♥️
@AshNikkosWife
@AshNikkosWife Жыл бұрын
When you’re gone from home so often someone literally gets murdered in your house but you don’t even know. She replaced the wallpaper and everything. There was a literal body in the house, if I were the homeowners I’d sell that house or move or whatever. Too creepy.
@virginiamiller4890
@virginiamiller4890 Жыл бұрын
I think that taking into account the incredible stress these women lived under, it's great to have a justice system supporting what mental disease is capable of doing. Too bad understanding the problem hasn't led to a solution to fix it.
@Queenofsarrow
@Queenofsarrow Жыл бұрын
your incredible talent shines through once again . the way you always are respectful to the victim amd theor families is heartwarming amd I know they are grateful. your voice is soothing and you have a way of keeping us enthralled with the way you tell the story is amazing. thank you for all you do!
@COOL896
@COOL896 Жыл бұрын
Adrian thank you spotlighting the struggles of filipino workers in rich countries such as singapore and HK. I am very fortunate of having a great grandpa that defended the Philippines during WW2 from the Japanese, which in turn granted his whole lineage citizenship at the time. If it wasnt for him, i believe my parents would have been domestic helpers as well
@Maesterful
@Maesterful Жыл бұрын
It's tragic how they're exploited. It seems like the city cares about its rich and the environment and doesn't give a toss about cheap foreign workers (much like Dubai)
@BURGATRON
@BURGATRON Жыл бұрын
You get Japanese citizenship from fighting against Japanese in WW2?
@COOL896
@COOL896 Жыл бұрын
@@BURGATRON no lol. American citizenship, because he was part of the Filipino/American army.
@BURGATRON
@BURGATRON Жыл бұрын
@@COOL896 Oh okay my bad. hehe
@t.j.sonofjonaslove8225
@t.j.sonofjonaslove8225 Жыл бұрын
Never lend money. You can't give it as a gift then don't do it at all.
@0phelion
@0phelion Жыл бұрын
Thank you for another sensitive and respectful video, Adrian. I agree with everyone when they talk about how well you research and present, how much care you take with pronunciations and depictions of places, cultures, and people, etc... but I haven't seen anyone point out the little visual motif/symbol you include in the opening sequence (e.g. 2:58 for this video). It adds intrigue as well as serve as a melancholic little homage to the tragic event. Thank you for putting so much effort into a detail that's only on screen for a couple of seconds!
@loveuanta7273
@loveuanta7273 Жыл бұрын
Any person after killed somebody and dissembled their bodies can’t be trusted ever again especially your “best friend”. Like how do you live with yourself after the fact that you chopped a person into pieces like a fish or chicken 😱
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 Жыл бұрын
She's free again so I'm guessing she's racking up new debs and finding new friends to pay them.
@13リナ
@13リナ Жыл бұрын
@@CAHSR2020 I thought she's the one helping with her friend's debt, hence when the interest starts to rise, it cause tension between them.
@scottyerkes1867
@scottyerkes1867 Жыл бұрын
What a pity that money was the root of this horrific crime. A young woman's loss of life. Thank you Adrian for posting this case.
@staceyduncanbts486
@staceyduncanbts486 Жыл бұрын
This is a tragic tale, all around. Thanks, Adrian.
@missaesthethxcc
@missaesthethxcc Жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering a case involving OFW’s, Adrian. This is pretty much a good way to let their stories be heard and known too. More power to your channel 🤍
@friendlypiranha774
@friendlypiranha774 Жыл бұрын
This is a very sad case, but what I find most despicable is that these ultra rich household owners cannot pay these poor girls a decent salary.
@Heidi-Beth
@Heidi-Beth Жыл бұрын
Once a week isn't enough, I miss you when you are gone.😅 Thank you for such good coverage on these poor souls.
@TheSilnat
@TheSilnat Жыл бұрын
Friends sometimes are scary 😟 you don't know who to trust now a days.
@smoothride7841
@smoothride7841 Жыл бұрын
Trust no one & suspect everyone
@lorenarivas5485
@lorenarivas5485 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Adrian for this sad story may she RIP 🪦
@dannijohn5041
@dannijohn5041 Жыл бұрын
It’s refreshing to see someone actually remorseful for their actions.
@markmike7933
@markmike7933 Жыл бұрын
YES it's VERY REFRESHING to see a F..KING Psychopath who DISMEMBERED HER BEST FRIEND being remorseful. I feel all rosy inside. Give me a break
@dannijohn5041
@dannijohn5041 Жыл бұрын
@@markmike7933 Jesus Christ. I’m not saying she’s a saint because she feels bad. I’m merely remarking how refreshing it is to see that they’re remorseful. It’s honestly kind of rare to see.
@dannijohn5041
@dannijohn5041 Жыл бұрын
@@markmike7933 take a break mark :)
@grneys45
@grneys45 Жыл бұрын
I don't know how remorseful she is .I think it takes a real sick individual to dismember a person..And then she is only sentenced to 10 years.
@doodahgurlie
@doodahgurlie Жыл бұрын
If she hadn't choked her friend the 2nd time to ensure she was truly dead once and for all, maybe I'd buy the remorseful part of it even over looking her dismembering the friend because it's difficult for her to carry and dispose of a dead body around Singapore.
@crysane08
@crysane08 Жыл бұрын
filipina viewer here..this is why it is truly hard to trust someone..this is sad in so many levels. I am a OFW(overseas Filipino worker) as well and i understand the emotional turmoil they must have suffered but that still doesn't justify the murder. i have alot that i want to say in this case but I don't want to sound apathetic. i hope the Phil. embassy/consulate also offeres Psych support to ofw's, as well as financial management because believe me, many ofnthe financial problems of ofws like me is because we Don’t know how to properly handle our finances.
@s3onghw920
@s3onghw920 Жыл бұрын
Yeah i remembered this case in my country. It was spread like wildfire back then and the killer was caught within 24hrs. It was such a tragic case
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230
@c.w.simpsonproductions1230 Жыл бұрын
Always so eerie to see the dates. What was just another day for so many of us was a day of horror for others.
@kodiekulp
@kodiekulp Жыл бұрын
Singapore banned chewing gum. You're also not allowed to spit. My dad traveled to Singapore when I was a kid and he brought me a shirt that said "the FINE city" and on the back it listed all their different types of fines. It's pretty strict over there. One thing you wouldn't want to do is suggest to another Singaporean they are from China lol.
@palmtrees2420
@palmtrees2420 Жыл бұрын
Haha holy crap my pops got me that same shirt as a kid. He is Filipino and was in the Navy so thats why he was in Singapore. Wish I still had that shirt.
@dustyice4111
@dustyice4111 Жыл бұрын
Sure you can spit, just don't get caught or you'll end up paying a fine and/or doing community service like picking up trash wearing a bright orange vest in their famous shopping district and I promised you, you don't ever want to do it again. 😆 Also yes, we are Singaporean Chinese not mainland Chinese. 😁
@charlottechoo
@charlottechoo Жыл бұрын
I don't think that sympathy should lie in any way with the murderer in this case, or excuse the selfish gruesome actions she went on to take. In case it wasn't picked up in the video, this lady was able to buy an expensive digital camera (they were pricey at the time - which she refused to sell, prompting the fight), have weekend lunches at an expensive shopping district here locally (for those who are unaware, Orchard Road is a notoriously overpriced shopping district in Singapore), buy a myriad of cleaning supplies and dismemberment tools as well as wallpaper etc, go on a shopping trip after the murder, etc. None of these factors makes it seem as if she was living in poverty. Moreover, according to the average live-in domestic worker contract, she was paid a living wage (labour laws do provide for this) as well as food and board, and it does seem like she had the run of the house (probably a very nice one too) in her employer's absence. Their lifestyle mainly outside the house also meant her household duties were pretty light in comparison with her counterparts. Her employers would also be responsible for her medical bills and hospitalisation (there was a local case of a maid who made a failed suicide attempt, saddling her employers with tens of thousands in hospital bills) Put yourself in place of her employers, and imagine your house being the scene of a murder and dismemberment without your knowledge. And the proximity to the murderer in your own house, whom you interact with everyday. Would you not feel violated and unsafe. While some say that they should have spoken to her about her troubles, that would be nice, but really is a personal choice as an employer and their perogative. If she had wanted to renegotiate her wages or get an advance, she could have gone to her employer personally. There was no evidence she did, or spoke up about her troubles. That being said, foreign workers here do have many stressors in their lives, such as family illness, death of a family member (who they may not be able see), financial troubles at home, the stress of being the breadwinner of the family while being away, relationship troubles, serious homesickness, etc. It is quite evident that her financial troubles are either due to her own mismanagement trying to emulate people with more money than her (her situation is far better than many have speculated here of being unable to afford meals - remember, food and board is provided under most live-in contracts of this kind) or due to financial commitments to family back home. While there are cases of employer abuse, that is far from the case here. I would imagine their constant absence gave her much more freedom than most in her profession. Moreover, the justice system was far more lenient with her than I would prefer. Therefore I think all the negative comments of unfair treatment or sympathy for this woman's financial troubles are woefully misplaced. Her testimony during the trial of her financial woes and mental illness cannot be taken at face value. She is obviously seeking sympathy under the circumstances. Instead sympathise with her best friend, the woman who was working hard to provide for her family back home, and loaned money to a desperate friend who would start a violent fight over a refusal to sell an expensive digital camera to repay her loan, then go on to murder and dismember her best friend.
@TicTac2
@TicTac2 Жыл бұрын
thank you for your viewpoint. I think Adrian (and many others) is/are less likely to judge the accused when they live in a different culture/situation as it feels more disrespectful. for example he blames Japanese culture a lot for nearly all of the Japanese murders he covers which doesn't exactly make sense given they overall have a fairly low crime rate.
@charlottechoo
@charlottechoo Жыл бұрын
@@TicTac2 Thank you for comment. I apologize for my extremely long comment, but I feel very strongly about not pigeonholing domestic maids as people to be pitied, or people handicapped by social circumstance. These ladies are resourceful, hardworking, and tough as hell and carry the fortunes of their entire families back home on the backs of their labour - their parents, siblings, children, even their neighbours and communities. The lady who previously worked for my aunt sent boxes and boxes of secondhand textbooks, school supplies and clothes back home monthly to help out the kids in her village, all out of her own pocket. The pride she takes in her labour, contribution and self betterment should not be overshadowed by pity for her humble beginnings. Over 16 years, she was a member of the extended family. She practically raised my cousin's infancy, and we all teared up when she finally left to take up another position. Another aunt's maid, spent her savings and her weekends attending a nursing course with her employers' full support, and is now a qualified nurse earning 5 times her original wage. Other maids I have spoken to spend their weekends with friends at the park for a picnic or BBQ or join social clubs for free fun activities, meticulously saving every penny to send back home. Many have bought their families houses, farmland animals and put all of their younger siblings through school. While I have the deepest admiration for the women who put every effort towards bettering themselves and their families, by comparison, Guen is undeserving of sympathy.
@dustyice4111
@dustyice4111 Жыл бұрын
@@charlottechoo May I suggest you copy and paste your comment to Evan93 as I can't put it as eloquently as you can. 😊 Evan93 is saying that Singapore does not have a basic income system for its citizens or even minimum wage which is ludicrous. 😳 Sorry for putting this on you but I can't explain it as clearly as you. 😊
@Twertyuu
@Twertyuu Жыл бұрын
Singapore doesn't have minimum wage, but it has a Progressive Wage Model for certain industries/jobs that were traditionally lower wage, ie. cleaners, etc to help these workers. Likewise for foreign domestic workers, there are many regulations in place to ensure they are fairly paid and treated.
@justineseitzinger5340
@justineseitzinger5340 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for pointing that out - I was a little confused when he said that, as I would have thought that for such a progressive country, some type of mandated wage/regulations would be in place. Thanks for the info ✌️
@janetdear6429
@janetdear6429 Жыл бұрын
😱 cor what a shockingly sad story, may Jane rest in peace, 🙏 another interesting video thanks Adrian 🖤
@wattsmusing
@wattsmusing Жыл бұрын
Hello from Singapore! I am a new subscriber and am quite surprised to hear you share a story from Singapore. I can attest to the deep financial divide in Singapore. Many common Singaporeans struggle to stay afloat every month even though we are dubbed as a rich nation.
@GoJays
@GoJays Жыл бұрын
The pity for this murderer is disgusting
@victoriascott6959
@victoriascott6959 Жыл бұрын
"No one likes to find a dead body at work " 🤣🤣 Love it. I'm an embalmer and help the coroner for work. Always entertaining videos, thanks ☕️
@Womanofkales
@Womanofkales Жыл бұрын
“Now, nobody likes to find a dead body while at work…” 😂😂😂 Thank you
@MathieuLLF
@MathieuLLF Жыл бұрын
Absolutely insane that she got off so lightly.
@CAHSR2020
@CAHSR2020 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely _expected_ that *_she_* got off so lightly.
@MathieuLLF
@MathieuLLF Жыл бұрын
@@CAHSR2020 why? She literally murdered someone and cut them into pieces.
@Cutthroatdav
@Cutthroatdav Жыл бұрын
I’ve been following this channel for 3 years and it’s still in my top favorite channels. Good work my guy! Love from Dallas, Texas!
@meli4880
@meli4880 Жыл бұрын
That quote at the end hit a little harder than probably anticipated. The case feels even more sinister because of the element of friendship.
@hashidraws
@hashidraws 9 ай бұрын
"Hopefully she could be rehabilitated" Wow thats a slap to the face to Jane and her family!
@jamesotayza2230
@jamesotayza2230 Жыл бұрын
Good morning, good afternoon or good evening Adrian! Your program has been part of my coffee break for some time now! Very entertaining yet insightful. As a Filipino myself i'm happy you discussed a case involving my country mates. Thru your research on this case you already know the hardships Filipinos go through. I would love for you to tackle cases here in the Philippines sometime. More power and as we say.... MABUHAY!
@thelovefamilyofficial
@thelovefamilyofficial Жыл бұрын
10 years jeez that’s too less!! Plus she dismembered her body!! That’s sad! May the deceased Rest In Peace!!
@nicolelewis3147
@nicolelewis3147 Жыл бұрын
Such a sad story, makes you think of the people closest to you. Thanks Adrian for another great video!
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