Hi all! On the branch of strange cases this week's video is quite different to my usual, partly to give us a refresher from traditional true crime - We're back to the usual next week! I’m very curious to know what you thought of this week's oddball case... important to try new waters every once in a while. Edit: Just wanted to add to those who were interested and wondering - Helen preferred both ‘she’ and ‘they’ pronouns. I chose the former to better differentiate between Helen and Snow throughout the story. And thank you to Babbel for sponsoring today's video. Link here if you're interested: go.babbel.com/12m65-youtube-coffeehousecrime-nov-2021/default
@512h92 жыл бұрын
grab some sangria and sit back.
@nancysantamarialatica11412 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your vids
@davekennedy63152 жыл бұрын
This is such a great true crime channel. You cover interesting cases, do so with compassion and respect. All cases are also well researched, well edited and narrated. All in all a superb channel, thank you!
@guerrillaentrepreneur59992 жыл бұрын
In the army prior to going outside the wire you Always chamber a round because you can fire immediately no delay.
@lawrencejackson39722 жыл бұрын
I like the New Water here.
@ScripticMind2 жыл бұрын
"Never aim a gun at anything you don't plan to destroy", one of the cardinal rules of gun safety. Another is always assume that the gun is loaded, ALWAYS.
@AkameGaKillfan7772 жыл бұрын
Brandon Lee learned this the hard way. Guns are still deadly even without bullets if you pull the trigger.
@bigmarc252_72 жыл бұрын
@@AkameGaKillfan777 yea, I’ve pistol whipped a man or two back in my time
@KYLE1654-v7m2 жыл бұрын
Got it. I don't ever go near Guns anyway. They look really cool. I still don't go near them.
@arturiaarthus83672 жыл бұрын
people don't understand that guns are not toys, let alone how lethal they are.
@bigmarc252_72 жыл бұрын
@@arturiaarthus8367 Everyone understands that
@owenst15652 жыл бұрын
Helen was a very close friend of mine when we were younger. When this happened, I was stunned. Their story got little to no coverage at all when it happened, so to see you bringing it to light while respecting them and speaking so highly of the person they used to be means a lot.
@frankcastle30192 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry for your loss.
@qwertyzxcvbn31742 жыл бұрын
I'm really sorry. Your friend seemed like a great person
@belladonnahigh92062 жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to say snow is a psychopath, since she didn't even feel any remorse (her behavior shows this) and could be dangerous in the future, that's why she should be locked up.
@24kgoldbuffalo352 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about loss of your friend because of the reckless use of a firearm.
@brutus36312 жыл бұрын
@@tubester4567 snow committed an atrocity but it's not related to their gender identity
@marievamp12 жыл бұрын
I love that you make the victim the priority. They are the ones we should remember not the killers.
@SN00PICUS2 жыл бұрын
You missed the part where he lied about it "being a horrible mistake" and said a bullet in the chamber was a "common misunderstanding"...dude is a POS
@Skorch882 жыл бұрын
This is why I'm drawn to this Chanel far more.
@Nemo-kj8qs Жыл бұрын
I understand what you mean but arent we watching the Videos to know about the killers rather than the victims?
@FyCMystery Жыл бұрын
The victim? She said "shoot me" After the gun was pointed at others? How is that a victim?
@jjjj-cy3vz Жыл бұрын
cant really call helen a victim here. if the story is true then both helen and snow are at fault for helens death due to gun safety.
@gerstoffbraxtach8608 Жыл бұрын
making "hide the body" roleplay tiktoks after you "accidentally" killed someone every normal person with guilt conscience would never do that and honestly it takes 0 psychology skills to recognize a sociopath/narcissist, she clearly needs to be jailed
@IrinaTrustsGod Жыл бұрын
Totally. She did this on purpose.
@candyheartsart Жыл бұрын
Agreed, hope she goes to prison
@aleclitvinov Жыл бұрын
not sure here. looks more like an attempt to come to terms with the reality of having done something so irreversible. i think she cannot communicate it in any different form. one doesn't need to be a real sociopath to kill someone. sometimes it's enough to be drunk and stupid and have a gun lying around.
@dambreb.926 Жыл бұрын
Well said. 20:26
@dangercat9188 Жыл бұрын
The moment I heard she was "non binary" AND a tiktoker, I knew she was coo-coo lol. Gen z is something else.
@HucksterYT2 жыл бұрын
I want to give a massive shout out to Jimmy Mrozinski for seeing what she did and getting involved. Not only for calling her out and saying no permission was given to do this, but also threatening to press charges if she even comes near the cemetery again. Shows he takes his job seriously and cares for the deceased, way more than she did.
@meligoth2 жыл бұрын
At the height of my involvement in the goth scene, taking videos or photos in a cemetery has always been a tempting activity. I did not have the vanity to do so, and as I got older the foolishness of such an act grew in my mind. In the end I did not miss out on anything from not doing it.
@frankmarano11182 жыл бұрын
@@meligoth Still even taking pics in a cemetery is very different than dancing on the graves. Permission obviously should be sought, & the cemetery could even come up with some compromise or conditions that theyd find acceptable. This girl didnt even care when she murdered her friend & joked around about loving blood & hiding bodies. They are likely a sociopath with little to no empathy, only caring about themself. I'm sure she probably thought, "Well I wont let this ruin my career" or something along those lines. She was in denial because her career in regards to yandere type stuff was most certainly over after that. Nobody would want anything to do with it & shed just get flamed relentlessly. How can anyone not understand a real gun is never a prop? You never aim a firearm at someone unless you intend to kill.
@frankmarano11182 жыл бұрын
@@Jackgritty28 Jack what is up with the MASSIVE run on sentence? Half of that sentence literally has nothing to do with the other half so that's when you start a new sentence. You dont just make a never ending sentence recapping the case in a totally random way. Also you're totally wrong man, it was the VICTIM who had the condition where she got angry with loud noises. NOT the killer. Get your facts straight man if you are going to make such a long recap at least lol. & an accident gone wrong IS manslaughter man, she isnt charged for MURDER right? So your "does she plead guilty or is it a accident gone wrong?" makes no sense because if she pleads guilty, shes pleading to an accident gone wrong! Not pleading guilty means shes saying she wasnt responsible whatsoever for her death..
@frankmarano11182 жыл бұрын
@@erickirshner2810 Unless someone deleted their comment I dont see anyone using pronouns at all? Lol
@erickirshner28102 жыл бұрын
@@frankmarano1118 you obviously didn't pay any attention to the video. He kept calling Snow "They"
@TheCatchFilms2 жыл бұрын
The four fundamentals of handling a firearm should be taught more often. They're very easy to understand: 1. Treat every gun as if it's loaded 2. Never point the muzzle at anything you don't intend to destroy 3. Keep your finger off the trigger until you're ready to fire 4. Be aware of your target and what's behind it And it's an unwritten rule that you never EVER handle a firearm while inebriated in any way. I smoke weed every day, but I won't touch it if I know I'm going to the range.
@lionguy41072 жыл бұрын
i was taught these rules as a child when playing with nerf guns. it boggles my mind that these things arent universally known. it could save a life.
@TheCatchFilms2 жыл бұрын
@@lionguy4107 seriously
@dudemcguy89492 жыл бұрын
Oh, it’s very much a written rule, at least in the more recent safety courses put out by the DNR
@niraea2 жыл бұрын
yes! there are a couple of guns in my house and i do have to handle them sometimes, and even when they're completely unloaded, chamber cleared, i still treat it as if it's loaded, keep my finger off the trigger, and point it strategically to avoid damage or worse, just in case. guns do not care what your intentions are and so you need to remain diligent and aware of what you are doing and what's going on around you when you're handling guns at every second. definitely don't pull them out when you're drunk... beyond snow i think their boyfriend and possibly their parents also bear some responsibility for this happening. the boyfriend is stupid because leaving your gun somewhere like that is already negligent. leaving it with someone known to be reckless and regularly drunk is negligent. leaving it with someone who does not know even the basics of gun safety is negligent. i wish that gun hadn't been in their house that night...
@jamesmcmillian98902 жыл бұрын
@@lionguy4107 Same. I wasn't allowed to get an airsoft gun until I was 13. I was taught to treat that airsoft pistol as if it were a loaded 9mm. Always had it on safety, never pointed it at people, even as a joke. My grandfather taught me how to aim with it. I thought this stuff was taught to everyone until I showed my friends the airsoft pistol and most of them didn't seem to give a shit about safety. Obviously it's not gonna kill anyone, but it can still BLIND people. That's a good enough reason to treat it like the real thing.
@KawaiiKlau2 жыл бұрын
I do find something so fascinating about it when content creators do something like this... The fact you could've been following them and never knowing what's going on behind the screen ..
@cynthiaw.wright61792 жыл бұрын
Screwballs
@voidhog10282 жыл бұрын
This is the reality of show business in general. Stop creating parasocial relationships with people who are straight up acting, or showing you a small portion of their reality.
@DonJuanDecepticon2 жыл бұрын
It's like that with everyone.
@Skylightatdusk2 жыл бұрын
Still having trouble understanding the mindset of someone who would post those comedic videos of death AFTER killing their 'friend'.
@MrLondonGo2 жыл бұрын
It's worse when they take their own lives.
@KingMasadaX Жыл бұрын
SNOW'S TRIAL UPDATE: 5 Years community supervision, 100 hrs of community service, a fine, regular probation visits, she can't own a gun, and she can't leave the county without permission. Aka she walked and isn't getting ANY prison time.
@CoffeehouseCrime Жыл бұрын
That’s very interesting! Where did you find this out?
@joshwyble6558 Жыл бұрын
That is completely unacceptable and an absolute travesty of justice!!! I got 4 years suspended license, 1000 hours community service, 200 hours trash pickup along the interstate, monthly supervised probation for 4 years, 40 hours of driving education classes, $25,000 in fines and court costs and 1 year of having a breath lock mechanism installed in my vehicle after getting my 2nd DWI and you telling me that this vile, disgusting human being with NO REMORSE whatsoever toward the deceased only got 5 years of probation?? She should have been sent to prison for manslaughter for at least 10 years if not life.... Wow! This country is as corrupt as they come I tell you what..... People are in Nevada prisons still incarcerated since the 1970s for possession of weed but this waste of space doesn't even have to go to jail for murder??? I guess it is easy to avoid prison if you shoot someone in the head then make tik tok videos making fun of the situation because of all the money you make from the videos you upload.. Basically what message the country is putting out is you can do whatever you want to anyone you want at anytime. You can R@pe them if you feel like it and even murder them if you choose to do so. Go ahead and do whatever you feel like doing to anyone and nobody in this country will try to stop you as long as you have alot of money you can do whatever it is you please. Be our guest. This is absolutely disgusting and it makes me fucking sick to my stomach. I get it. There are things called accidents but SHE should have never even touched a gun under the influence of alcohol to begin with.... This is probably a cheap ploy by the government to infuriate the masses and just another box checked to try to take away our guns!! Disgusting
@treasurehunteruk9718 Жыл бұрын
@@joshwyble6558 I am English and our justice system is a joke. We let people off with all sorts of things, but we always think the US has much stronger penalties, and Texas being one of the harsher states, which DOES ACUTALLY execute folks - not just give it, then NOT carry it out, like the other states. I think they are now going soft, as well.
@elleohell3 Жыл бұрын
oh my god
@freakelangelo Жыл бұрын
@@treasurehunteruk9718 green screen mah dude
@SugarxDrops2 жыл бұрын
As someone who used to know Snow this story horrifies me. I'm a Houston cosplayer, nowhere near as popular as Snow but we've been mutuals since 2017, I was in multiple of their panels and at one point we left a con to get Boba together and shared an uber. I distanced myself from them after the grave incident and I'm glad I did, the local community has known for a long time they weren't a good person(With their history of drama and incidents) but it baffles me how far this went. It's crazy to think of all the times I was with them...
@stolen_stardust2 жыл бұрын
Yeah - I’m not local to Houston but I was friends with multiple people who were mutuals and met up with her at cons. most of them dropped ties with her after the graveyard pictures happened, obvs, but got it’s weird to hear her name again in this context
@Lioness4172 жыл бұрын
What is Boba? 😻
@olive52612 жыл бұрын
@@Lioness417 boba deez nuts
@shadowezeaur2 жыл бұрын
@@Lioness417 its a drink. Boba is the milk tea drink with pearls
@InkyBeeArtz2 жыл бұрын
I used to know snow as well. They are one of the reasons i left the houston cosplay community. Snow and Robin would bully me relentlessly because i spoke up about a pedo they were friends with who is also popular in the houston community
@lalakuma92 жыл бұрын
If someone names themselves "Yandere Freak", that's a red flag. Also it's fascinating to me that a lot of people who are really good at creating an image of themselves on social media often turn out to be really toxic narcissists. I guess it perfectly makes sense, because that's exactly what narcissists care about.
@aaronabeid30792 жыл бұрын
So true, forget the name I think those cringe tiktok cosplay videos are big enough of a red flag
@codyj65052 жыл бұрын
All true tbh. It's probably easier now than ever for a narcissist to be wealthy and successful with social media.
@justinkosuk34582 жыл бұрын
My flags were raised once I heard she declared she was the real life Junko from Danganronpa
@artistofcybertron2 жыл бұрын
@@justinkosuk3458 Same here.
@cattheman64912 жыл бұрын
Happens on Twitter a lot - even with so called "normal" people.
@Sovennix2 жыл бұрын
I actually went to highschool with Snow and lived just a few streets down from them. Went to their house, met their parents and sibling. I can't say much about their stepdad, but snow's mom was incredibly enabling of them, always bailing them out of bad situations even when it was undeniably Snow's fault. I was into anime during highschool so Snow and I connected and became friends. Over the course of a month they started bullying me and several others in our group of friends through manipulation and gaslighting. It escalated to the point where they told me to kill myself, something they claim that they would "never do", then tried to backpedal by calling the police to my house even though I wasn't home. This happened back in 2016. Although most of my highschool friendships have drifted apart, we are still united by how much we hate, and fear, Snow.
@thebarefoothobbit2 жыл бұрын
Not surprised. Half of the cosplay community is so toxic. I did it from 14 years and then when covid hit, it was finally a way out. I dont plan to go back
@suzyd0ll2 жыл бұрын
You should talk to the Police about it, I saw a few streams and I remember the drama stuff and she never seemed like a good person to me. I kinda doubt it was an accident but who knows...
@jborden182 жыл бұрын
In her videos, she comes off as someone who wants attention and to be well liked when in actuality she herself was the bully. That alone show's that she's not a good person.
@tonyjackson40782 жыл бұрын
There's definitely some friendly, very balanced cosplayers. There's also definitely those who go to any avenue to garner attention or use anyone who can help them gain status in the community.
@justheather97132 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you got out from under her ❤️
@kawaiiwarrior3553 Жыл бұрын
I actually live in Houston and met "Yandere Freak" at an anime shop years before this had happened. She'd actually gotten in trouble for attempted shop lifting and got really freaked out at the associate when she was caught. When I read about this, I was really shocked about the whole thing. When I met her, she seemed really "odd" (aside from the shoplifting) and that's a lot coming from me.
@thefilmwatcher130211 ай бұрын
I mean, they literally called themself “Yandere Freak”. I think calling someone like that odd is an understatement.
@jarednewman78235 ай бұрын
Really? I met her once at a con, and she didn't seem too out of the ordinary. She was a bit standoffish, but outside of that, she seemed normal. After hearing about this case and your encounter, I wonder if I just... caught her in a good mood or something.
@lazarus300012 жыл бұрын
Killing a friend then using the experience to boost social media fame; these children have no souls.
@ligerman12882 жыл бұрын
Soulless entities
@Peter4212 жыл бұрын
That is the pathetic nature of clout
@ayoutubecommenter18272 жыл бұрын
The fact they use tiktok is all I needed to know to say they're soulless. Its narcissism on steroids
@Yukinoomoni2 жыл бұрын
It's not just a generation or social media thing. Remember that.
@iclarke112 жыл бұрын
I hope she gets the maximum sentence.
@toxxicali2 жыл бұрын
I’m a cosplayer and remember when the graveyard photoshoot was all going down years ago, the kitten thing, a $300 wig controversy, and then a few months ago when the manslaughter charges came out. Snow just never really had a good rep. You did a great job with this story, and I really am glad you talked about Helen- I didn’t know much about them before this video.
@Alt__Amy2 жыл бұрын
Snows had me blocked since the graveyard incident I think, its so weird to look back on the stuff that happened with snow, Medusa and I can’t remember the guys name but he was a dirk cosplayer and then look at all the coverage that’s going on now, honestly it makes me feel kinda old 😅
@snr.froggymooopew77812 жыл бұрын
What was the kitten thing?
@PhoenixLyon2 жыл бұрын
@@snr.froggymooopew7781 After Luka in Canada, not sure I want to know.😦 ✌😸
@chrissearer18962 жыл бұрын
We did graveyard cos in the 70’s Punky Brewsters! 🤓🥸
@strawberryelf32092 жыл бұрын
I remember all that too I had just recently started cosplaying at the time
@sierrajohnson7172 жыл бұрын
As a female anime NERD, a gigantic red flag is when someone markets themselves as Yandere, thinks yandere characters are romantic or relateable, or exclusively cosplays yandere and antagonistic female characters. She’s almost certainly NOT kidding, and if she is she’s at least insufferable to be around.
@prageruwu692 жыл бұрын
people can be super into the yandere trope without being like that
@voidtectonic2 жыл бұрын
She gives a bad name to all of us who like anime, videogames, and cosplaying.
@Laura-Yu2 жыл бұрын
She's one of those "look how quirky and badass I am" type of girls
@younce-davis9522 жыл бұрын
I understand exploring the yandere label as an alternative ego online or in cosplay. But saying you're literally a yandere is disturbing.
@tiredmilky84162 жыл бұрын
While snow is not a good person, liking yandere characters has nothing to do with being a bad person. I love the yandere trope and more antagonist and psych characters for a number of reasons. They are also the type of people I cosplay most often. Doesn’t mean I’m gonna kill someone😐
@NJ.Magpie2 жыл бұрын
What makes this worse is that she clearly showed absolutely no remorse. If I accidentally ended up shooting and killing my best friend then I don't think I'd want to live knowing I had caused the death of someone, especially someone close to me. I most certainly wouldn't be posting cosplay videos even if cosplay helped me cope, let alone make the subject about murder or death. What a terrible person.
@MsNarusakufan2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Snow just went bac to posting as if she didn't kill her friend says it all. I wouldn't be able to function without my best friend, but she just snapped back into TikTok like it never even happened. Either she's extremely desensitized or she's terrible at handling trauma. Either way, she needs to seek professional help
@twistedyogert2 жыл бұрын
She's a probably a psychopath.
@spanoguy22832 жыл бұрын
nah mate, she is seeking jail time
@bingobaz64022 жыл бұрын
Tbh I have experienced a lot of death and losses in my life and obviously will experience more. I know first hand that everyone has different coping mechanisms when it comes to dealing with tragedy and death. Yes it is an odd way to deal with it but it may just be her way of coping. Don't get me wrong I am not on her side, just saying facts. Also I know this doesn't excuse anything being very young like that and if genuinely thought the gun was empty then, she would obviously think it was safe to pull the trigger. Not at all difficult to understand, let's be honest. But gun should never have been so easily accessible. But from my experience, I lost my best friend of 12 years, it had been 6 years now and for the first 3 years I was horrible to everyone I come across online or in real world. Taken me a while to realise why I was doing it, it was just automatic for me as I was just not happy my friend is gone. People cope with things in different ways..so maybe for her to act like nothing happened and treat it like fiction and make videos about death was probably a coping mechanism.
@Prizzlesticks2 жыл бұрын
they*
@michelefancy81102 жыл бұрын
@@Prizzlesticks correcting people in multiple threads over pronouns while they're discussing someone who killed their friend and then started posting cutesie murder tiktoks immediately after is not a good look.
@IronPaws892 жыл бұрын
Never point a gun at something you don’t want dead.
@elisaacello5922 жыл бұрын
YES! Thank you!!!!!
@AK-yx3uu2 жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone said it. I think Helen and Snow are both at fault. Helen for saying “me next” and Snow for pulling the trigger and not checking the safety.
@goodstuff82712 жыл бұрын
@@AK-yx3uu unfortunately they were both high and drunk which screwed up their judgement
@spanoguy22832 жыл бұрын
unless you WANT it dead
@AK-yx3uu2 жыл бұрын
@@goodstuff8271 sounds like Darwinism
@Chewy04242 жыл бұрын
Disgusting behaviour. The way 'Snow' behaved after killing her friend shows absolutely 0 remorse. She deserves a hefty sentence.
@cheetoesgal52292 жыл бұрын
Yep, she deserves a huge dose of Karma served to her in prison.
@bexproctor3602 жыл бұрын
She's showed no remorse at all !
@oni-one5742 жыл бұрын
@@bexproctor360 People grieve differently. After my mom died, like the same day, I was making jokes about it. At the funeral. You see no remorse, I see coping. Two stupid kids playing with guns drunk and high, one says "Do me" the other "does her". She's fucked for life either way. Living in Houston, we have enough problems with actual violent criminals who we need the space for. Tragic case here, but she's a far cry from a violent criminal. An attention seeking idiot? Yes, most definitely.
@lunayoshi2 жыл бұрын
At first, with her making videos centered around blood and morbid topics, I was sort of thinking Snow was just processing trauma really poorly. As this video went on, though, it became clear she was experiencing no remorse and is thus an actual sociopath. Poor Helen. Coffeehouse did a good job of giving us a peek into Helen's lost potential. Props to him for being a stand-up content maker.
@oni-one5742 жыл бұрын
@@lunayoshi Could be sociopathic tendencies. Don't get me wrong, what happened to Helen was unfair, but how someone deals with something after the fact is less important to me than their intentions, actions, and premeditated effects of the crime. She is definitely a self-centered and selfish individual. Could probably be a mix of psychopathy too. Regardless of what sewer she swims in, the entire crime seemed to be one giant accident, corroborated by everyone there and actively participated in. There are serious murderers, rapists, and other violent criminals who we need to foot the big bills on long term incarceration. Not some idiot sociopath whose likely no actual threat to society. There is nothing to rehabilitate with our prison system, bent on churning out more animals.
@utatanepiko7087 Жыл бұрын
I know everyone is saying that Snow's username being "Yandere Freak" was a red flag, and yeah it is, but another red flag was something I noticed in this screenshot at 7:08 Yes, I understand that their cosplay of that specific character got the most popularity on both Tiktok and Instagram, but imo, calling yourself the real life Junko Enoshima is just as much of a red flag as having yandere in your username. For anyone who knows her and Danganronpa as a whole understands why ETA: there's also the fact they sexualized child characters, posed in graveyards and romanticized characters like Junko like how the toxic side of true crime romanticized Ted Bundy and the Columbine Shooters (nothing wrong with liking characters who did bad things as long as you don't agree with their actions, I like villain/antagonists too, but it's why I had to make the comparison to THAT side of true crime to get my point across somehow)
@samthecutewolf9433 Жыл бұрын
As somebody who cosplayed as Junko, it is really important to distinguish real life from anime. In fact, we shouldn’t try to be someone else, specially people with psychotic and homicidal traits.
@zzzeus782 жыл бұрын
Random Japanese here. Sheesh, she named herself "Yandere Freak?" That's a huge, and I mean a HUGE red flag. Whether it's Kawaii Yandere or Yandere-chan or Yandere Senpai, the moment you start calling yourself "Yandere" that is just a major no-no. Yandere's "yan" comes from the word "yanderu" or "yamu" which means "sick." Well, looking at the videos she posted after she shot her friend, she sure is sick alright!!
@PandaMonium928272 жыл бұрын
After I read the case about Phoenix Luna and got exposed to that term, I've never been the same.
@forickgrimaldus83012 жыл бұрын
Yup thats like calling yourself Psycho Killer or Stalker Predator
@jackcutter22 жыл бұрын
You're not Japanese lol
@zzzeus782 жыл бұрын
@@jackcutter2 sorry to disappoint you buddy, but I am :D
@mrh.p.reaper4936 Жыл бұрын
@@zzzeus78 as a American and has a lot of love for Japanese culture and yes gaming and anime I understand that your culture got unfairly some of the blame because of the yandere theme used by these individuals who were using this as an outlet then turned it into such horrible crimes but I agree red flags when anyone calls themselves yandere or psycho something still much love to the culture just horrible crimes committed by horrible people
@Swellington_2 жыл бұрын
I was always told that an unloaded gun is more dangerous than a loaded gun, that's probably a little difficult for some people to get but it's absolutely true,as in this story
@truesoulghost27772 жыл бұрын
If it’s perceived as unloaded then yes
@natalielee352 жыл бұрын
One of the first rules of gun safety is it's always loaded. Even if you just took it apart and know it's empty. It's loaded.
@GrumpyMunkyGameDesign2 жыл бұрын
No its perfectly sane, because an unloaded gun breeds an air of complicity, you assume the guns unloaded so you treat it like a toy, and THATS what makes it more dangerous, not the gun itself, its the lack of concern by the user when they BELIEVE its unloaded. This is why gun safety teaches to treat an unloaded firearm as tho it were loaded because you NEVER know unless you check wether thats true or not and becoming complacent with firearms to the point you can direct them towards people 'jokingly' is even more dangerous because it betrays a lack of respect for the destructive capability of the weapon in question and anyone caught doing that should have their firearms license revoked immediately because they clearly have no respect for the power they wield.
@anenfairy49962 жыл бұрын
@@natalielee35 absolutely, as someone who handles and builds them, yes. If I took apart a gun, especially in an environment where I am not alone - someone could have just as easily put a loaded mag or a round in for god knows what and now I'm coming back to a loaded gun. its only ever happened once and my paranoid must-check-if-its-loaded tendency found said round. Honestly, I have a very do not touch my guns attitude as it is, but especially not at my house. Best way to avoid mistakes? Check if its loaded, every time, but even better? Don't let people touch your guns to begin with unless you're at the range. They say people who build guns are a lot less fun to be around, and its true, because we're far more experienced with the third party element. most accidents could be avoided altogether if people would just learn how to properly handle a firearm. So many people out there have no idea.
@witachapinamk15072 жыл бұрын
No it's not as dangerous as unloaded gun
@ShrandaM2 жыл бұрын
My deepest condolences goes out to all of the loved ones of Helen. This is terrible and plain reckless. 🤲🏽💜
@Igor_ogi2 жыл бұрын
I cannot believe they haven’t been thrown immediately in jail for violating their bond multiple times. That’s beyond me. Minorities and most men in general wouldn’t have been treated so kindly.
@jkroon82002 жыл бұрын
Apparently her father is a local politician so of course the family gets preferred treatment. Normally 1 of those violations she did would be enough to be violated while on pre trial and get thrown in jail until your hearing resolution.
@matthewgordonpettipas67732 жыл бұрын
Really? Timothy Simpkins, a Black kid in Texas, shot three people at his school and got out on bail a day later. Kinda blows the minority thing out of the water.
@jbrobele2 жыл бұрын
@@matthewgordonpettipas6773 nobody died genius, if even one of those kids died he would still be in the slammer today. If you really believe the justice system is fair across the board you either bumped your head or you’re willfully ignorant
@BenSS32 жыл бұрын
@@jbrobele Oh, okay, since they didn't die, it's perfectly acceptable by your logic to bring a firearm into a school and shoot people. Just make sure not to aim for the heads, kids! Though seriously; how can you try to justify him getting bailed out after a single day imprisoned? The people who got shoot are going to likely be traumitized for life, not to mention potential life altering injuries. There are things worse than death, as many victims can tell you sincerely. P.S. - This is just my two cents on the subject, and I'm sincerely sorry if I came across too aggressively. I just was attempting to emphasize my point.
@jbrobele2 жыл бұрын
@@BenSS3 oh shut up. Tldr. I said what I said get over it. your interpretation of what I said doesn’t change the fact that minorities are prosecuted more harshly. Interpret that how you want idgaf. I won’t entertain all that uninformed diarrhea you’re spewing out here in these KZbin comments
@notmaru2 жыл бұрын
there's actually a lot of rumors going around of her being involved in the deaths of others just a couple years prior, I was helping out with uncovering her past (she got way more accounts and names that she goes by). a really scary case when u keep in mind that she is connected to other crimes and still continued making those type of tiktoks/using the name real yandere. you did a great job on reporting on this ongoing case and I love how thoughtful you explained cosplay/anime culture!
@thatoneLerrydude2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy
@LanaDelReySimmer2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking maybe she was involved in the death of another cosplayer that lived in Texas with her husband? Her name was Liz Barraza.
@Anastasia-hn8bs2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a source and what other names and accounts she went by? A cursory Google search showed up nothing
@carlakoala74152 жыл бұрын
Would love to know what you was helping someone out with. A video? article? Sounds interesting. I feel so awful for Helen and her family must be heart broken.
@Prizzlesticks2 жыл бұрын
they*
@magoo41512 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong, but I haven’t seen a comment yet about you taking the time to explain how often people will think a gun is empty just because there is no clip, but always forget one in the chamber. Info could legit save someone’s life lol. Awesome video!
@thisguy54842 жыл бұрын
Because it's bullshit. You treat every gun like it's loaded 💯. No jokes no play play time. It's a death device.
@clon762 жыл бұрын
Should have taken the time to tell people to just not own a bloody gun. It's insanity that people have them in their homes at all.
@brianbuehring55422 жыл бұрын
@@clon76 your opinion is wrong. Its a vital part of our culture and one of the main reasons we have preserved our way of life in the face of recent events. Take Australia for example.
@l0lkhalia2 жыл бұрын
@@brianbuehring5542 you’re a weirdo for defending guns lmfao
@brianbuehring55422 жыл бұрын
@@l0lkhalia who let there 8 year old in the comments section?
@MomotheToothless2 жыл бұрын
Calling themself the real Junko made all the red flags raise.
@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff552 жыл бұрын
Herself
@Alex-hp2rs2 жыл бұрын
The "cringe" red flag, yeah.
@aalluunaa2 жыл бұрын
literally
@Prolyfic82 жыл бұрын
Spike Chunsoft is in trouble I suppose…
@shrimp14292 жыл бұрын
@@TheSoonToBePurgedJackMeHoff55 Themself*. Someone being a pos doesnt erase their gender identity.
@X0Kae2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace Helen. I’m sorry you came into contact with this awful human being. Please rest easy. The community lost an Angel xo
@sheela25882 жыл бұрын
That dreadful thing called SNOW needs to be locked up. A true psycho.
@catharperfect70362 жыл бұрын
An angel? She was a deranged demon. A proud deceiver and destroyer. The world is better without her.
@SSingh-nr8qz2 жыл бұрын
As a gun owner, You NEVER point a gun at ANYTHING unless you are willing to destroy it. This means keeping the safety on, finger inoff the trigger, and not pointing it around. I consider my guns no different than my power tools in my workshop. You follow the tools because they didn't RESPECT the tools ability to cause harm under certain situations. That's where I see the problem with this case. these women show ZERO RESPECT FOR ANYTHING (like dancing on graves). These are the kinds of idiots that should be near a gun, knife, or a Tide Pod. Basically anything. It's not lack of education or access to proper gun training that would have prevented this. It's lack of respect for anything and not thinking at all. This is the same attitude you see on TikTok where some idiot goes car surfing or parkouring off a large building that is out of their league...all for views and ego. All this tells me as an old man is these are very low self esteem people that are addicted to validation from others to feel good about themselves.
@linkskywalker54172 жыл бұрын
Isn't that also the same reason some have livestreamed criminal acts?
@deannafromdablock19942 жыл бұрын
I mean like come on that’s common sense even if you know NOTHING about guns…. Especially if u know nothing. I’m so over hearing about people dying over a bullet being left in the chamber!!
@ThermosAbtermos2 жыл бұрын
Call it how you see it!!
@Laura-Yu2 жыл бұрын
She thought she was one of those cool quirky bad girls, but learned the hard way that real life is a bitch and don't give a damn
@dudemcguy89492 жыл бұрын
Bit of an unpopular opinion, but I believe that some sort of gun safety lessons should be mandatory. Even if you have no intention of owning or using one (completely your choice, guns are never something you force into the hands of someone), knowing how to safely handle one could help prevent accidents like these
@katycowan24612 жыл бұрын
Remember seeing some of this case on tiktok, the video of snow lip syncing “goodness you’re bleeding what a wonderful feeling” makes me sick. How delusional do you have to be to kill someone (accident or not) and then post a video romanticising literal MURDER? just gross, rest in peace Helen💕
@phonzy77652 жыл бұрын
Accident or not, she mocked the death of her best friend on social media knowing that she had only died 3 weeks later. This is definitely someone who could kill again. Rip Helen and Condolences to her family.
@glasperle772 жыл бұрын
you cant judge that. she copes in her own way. not everoyne whining and sitting around afterwards. death btw is part of life just as birth. she is not mocking anyone because you can't even know what mocking a death person is-because you only judge from a selfish view of an alive-person. nobody knows how to really treat the dead respectful becasue the most just judge due to their own moral and ethnical point of view, not thinking of the dead ones. she didn'T name her, she just made videos about dead bodies, playing her role. nothing wrong with this, it's her hobby.
@handsomecriminal69422 жыл бұрын
Crazy anime chick. She did this on purpose
@lyna21282 жыл бұрын
@@glasperle77 I believe we can in her case...I mean dude you just kill your friend, even if it was a mistake you did end someone's life. Normal people would definitely be in guilt . Uploading tiktok vid wasn't the issue but her despite killing someone made a video about death.
@blamcheese2 жыл бұрын
@@glasperle77 Bro, get off KZbin and any type of social media, and get some rest, you are drunk and speaking like a Sociopath right now
@KazeShikamaru2 жыл бұрын
Lol no you can't. Too much Phoenix Wright for you.
@Fijilost2 жыл бұрын
There is a case I’d love for you to cover and shed a light on it that happened very recently and hit very VERY close to home. A girl I didn’t personally know but she went to my high school and I’ve seen her in person. Miya marcano, a 19 year old girl who’s life was taken miles away from her family on her way through success. Studying in Orlando, she was living alone and was constantly harassed by an older guy who she wasn’t interested in, the man who works at the apartment building she lives in, got the master key to get into her room, and do god knows what… this case hurt Miami, Broward, my high school and schools all around Florida. My school honored her by planting a tree in her name, releasing a bunch of butterflies which is what she was known to dress as for the Carnivals and money that was raised was put into a foundation in her name. Please coffee house, cover this story. Spread light and help protect our young girls going to college
@carlakoala74152 жыл бұрын
Have you tried to contact him through twitter? He may be more likely to see your comment there x
@sluttymctits44962 жыл бұрын
I'm not familiar with the case, but it may be too soon. If it happened pretty recently, not all the facts may be out yet and it could be difficult to sift through all the conflicting information, or to even gather enough information for a video. Plus, it could be disrespectful to her family and friends to make what is essentially an entertainment video about such a recent tragedy. I know I'd be mad if my close friend died and people were profiting off the death only a year or two later. I just looked, and this only happened a couple months ago. Let the poor girl rest, and let her loved ones grieve. Jeez, I know it's near you and you want some connection to it, but that's definitely too soon, and there wouldn't be nearly enough info to discuss. Talk about poor taste.
@autumngrace36832 жыл бұрын
Someone has already made a video about her, can’t remember the channel name, but it’s on KZbin.
@Fijilost2 жыл бұрын
@@sluttymctits4496 I’m glad you left this comment. Because what I wanted was her story to her told to the world. Same way her family is so vocal and powerful in spreading love and her story, same way I want someone with a large platform who does this amazing work. He does it in order to share the importance of these peoples story and Miya’s name has so much importance.
@StinkyGreenBud Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's my age but how the hell do people get famous for dancing like idiots on social media? I just don't get it.
@dahliamuerte24282 жыл бұрын
The cosplay community is incredibly toxic. The mix with social media and trying to be “cos-famous” just allows for horrible narcissistic personality to thrive. Which just leads to horrible things from assault, cyber bullying, harassment, and other horrible things
@bakaomi93662 жыл бұрын
that's sad thou. cosplaying was meant to be enjoyed as an art form and not a means to break others down just for some views and likes.
@dahliamuerte24282 жыл бұрын
@@bakaomi9366 it is very sad. I got out of the community because I was being harassed to the point I felt so unsafe that it triggered panic attacks. It is very sad since I loved to teach sewing and wigs in the local library systems and conventions to help foster the next generation
@bakaomi93662 жыл бұрын
@@dahliamuerte2428 I feel ya it sucks to give up something you loved just because it is not save. sorry that it ended that way for ya
@nicholassmith87792 жыл бұрын
It seems it draws in a lot of mentally ill which doesn't help
@killlerkai182 жыл бұрын
The cosplay community is also a tad bit racist
@MartaWomack2 жыл бұрын
If someone behaved the way she did in the cemetery, disrespectfully dancing on my parent's graves, or that of the baby I lost, I would be very grieved. She apparently has no decency or shame. The fact that she got right back to doing these pointless videos so soon after the "event" is very troubling, but telling about her character, too.
@datjamalnotar84222 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know this was her! but I remember getting in an online fight with her because of this, she posted it on her Instagram.
@coolwomabat78972 жыл бұрын
agreed. I like how you didn’t refer to her by “they”. she doesn’t deserve the respect.
@coolwomabat78972 жыл бұрын
also @MartaWomack i’m terribly sorry for your loss 😢
@okayomakaia2 жыл бұрын
Not a girl, you can disagree w THEIR actions without misgendering like a worthless POS
@Laura-Yu2 жыл бұрын
@yamakikustan Lol "nonbinary" isn't transgender. "Nonbinary" invalidates actual transgenderism that is validated through science. Good luck trying to force people to believe that "you can identify as whatever as you want"
@leavemealone802 Жыл бұрын
People deal with grief differently. But that is too messed up to be categorized as grieving
@DrTuSo2 жыл бұрын
Never point the gun on anything, that you don't want to shoot. Treat a gun always as if it's loaded. Your finger goes only on the trigger the moment you want to shoot. No way this can be called an accident.
@Aurgelmer4442 жыл бұрын
There's obviously something very wrong with this girl, would not be surprised if that was some sick fantasy of hers that just became a reality.
@rocketamadeus37302 жыл бұрын
Sure it can be called an accident. Just because some people follow gun safety rules and aren't complete idiots doesn't mean people aren't accidentally shot all the time.
@rocketamadeus37302 жыл бұрын
@crassgop Comparing guns to cars is silly.
@prime17712 жыл бұрын
Lock up Baldwin for murder. 💯
@prime17712 жыл бұрын
Lock up Baldwin for murder. 💯
@snowkracker2 жыл бұрын
Sorry but if you point a gun at someone’s head, pull the trigger, that’s not an accident. That’s intentional. Also, I think she should get 20 years just for making those cringe videos alone.
@johns16252 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. Thank god there is 1 other person who understands this. Not knowing how a gun works doesn't make negligence an "accident". There are no accidental discharges and every gun is loaded.
@raineyday69082 жыл бұрын
Their pronouns are they/them
@daviddavidson23572 жыл бұрын
@@raineyday6908 You're just going to spam this everywhere aren't you? Pronouns and genders are like fucking pokemon these days, gotta catch em all.
@obiejerusalem85872 жыл бұрын
@@raineyday6908 There are no pronouns in prison.
@harryhazza6262 жыл бұрын
She's the only person who sadly died in this video , why you adding more people???
@juliedoubleday Жыл бұрын
So heartbreaking, my thoughts and prayers go to Helen’s family. Thank you for sharing this story. It’s shocking that there are still adults in this world who think guns can be used as a toy. Loaded or not.
@WaifuVoorhees2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to add as someone that found my best friend dead when I was 15, and we absolutely LOVED Cosplay and horror, NOTHING was the same for me after that. I could never have made the type of Yandere content Snow did after that incident. While everyone and how they cope with pain and loss is different of course, and I am still an avid lover of horror, I had to stay away from the subject of death for a very long time. I couldn't even handle shows that had funerals in them for awhile, ESPECIALLY torture or anything that had gore. I remember a girl in High School reading a poem about how she thought death was beautiful - when I used to write dark gorey poems about death all of the time before my own incident with my friend - and I was furious to my core listening to her that day. To this day I can't watch dark things the same way like I used to love them when I was a young teenager. Snow and I are different people of course, but I feel as someone who could potentially relate, I do not understand her actions afterwards AT ALL. I was unfortunate enough that my best friend was already gone when I found her, and there was nothing I could do, and how hard the subject of death was for me for many years to come. I can only imagine the added on trauma if I WERE THE ONE that directly caused her death like in Snow's case. So the fact that Snow not only seemed to revel in death after her friend's passing, but boasted about being a "real Yandere" after literally shooting her, I find absolutely revolting. As someone that absolutely loves Horror and even the Yandere stereotype to a degree, I could never have "coped" the way Snow did. I fully believe she is not fully remorseful, and seems to romanticize the event and death still, and 110% deserves to be in prison for her carelessness, accident or not. Guns and weapons are not a joke. This was a great video, thank you - I love this channel and the thoughtful coverage of these cases.
@gwenwood61362 жыл бұрын
Sorry this happened to you, I hope you are healing and the process of going through life is good for you X
@ninototo12 жыл бұрын
People are different though. I cope by making jokes.
@WaifuVoorhees2 жыл бұрын
@@ninototo1 I understand 100%, that's why I made it a point to say everyone deals with loss differently, and it's quite normal to cope with jokes. But the point of my comment and story is that I could never have and still can't cope with my friend's death in the way Snow "coped", especially jokes. To this day, I will never forget the way the blood looked on my phone case from my friend's body. The song I listened to on my way to her house, I feel sick to this day hearing it. Someone suffering from PTSD doesn't want to relive the experience, that's why it's trauma. Snow seems to revel in the gorey scene she must have seen that day. And I personally don't understand at all, it isn't normal to cope that way, and I find it extremely concerning.
@WaifuVoorhees2 жыл бұрын
@@gwenwood6136 Thank you very much, I appreciate it. It's been 10 years now, and unfortunately it still effects me to this day in more ways than I've even realized. I have immense fear whenever someone in my life shows any sign of a health risk, or if they don't respond in a timely manner. I'm seeing a therapist actively, and that helps a lot. While I hold significant sadness for that day, and for my dear friend (she was like a sister to me), I'm grateful it at least taught me how precious our time on Earth is, and that each and every life is valuable. While I will hold the pain in my heart and soul forever, I promised myself I would live life to the fullest in her stead. And I have a lot going for me now. I hope life is treating you well too. ❤
@jborden182 жыл бұрын
@@WaifuVoorhees thank you for being strong enough to tell your story!! I also lost someone who was significant in my life and I too, was the one to find them. It was devastating and I don't wish it upon anyone. I don't understand how someone could put out videos like she did, however, people do experience and express grief differently.
@Stache-Man2 жыл бұрын
I love how somber your voice is because it makes lines like “and apparently the whole place smelt of cat piss.” A little funny despite the grim subject matter.
@blendedmilkk2 жыл бұрын
I hope Helen's soul is resting easy. My heart goes out to her mother, family, and friends. Helen didn't deserve to die, let alone be hurt at all, yet Snow not taking proper safety precautions (such as not pointing a gun at someone) led to her suffering the consequences of Snow's actions. I hope Snow gets seriously punished for this one day soon.
@jmcdrawer50312 жыл бұрын
@Lexie Dreamer *she
@jmcdrawer50312 жыл бұрын
Look up the term they in the dictionary. Y'all are using it wrong
@strawberries11862 жыл бұрын
@@jmcdrawer5031 there are many instances in the English language in which They is used as a singular pronoun. Furthermore, language is ever evolving and words take on new meanings and usage. Even if They was not already used in the singular form, there is no reason to poluce it's use in such a way. Many online resources have already adjusted the teaching of English Singular pronouns to include They along with a disclaimer that it is gender neutral or gender inclusive.
@jmcdrawer50312 жыл бұрын
@@strawberries1186 so in other words, we want to change meanings to words because we feel like it to further confuse the language
@jtzr13712 жыл бұрын
@@strawberries1186 when can we do that with the nword
@kristam38172 жыл бұрын
The care you have for the victims in the stories is evident, very professional. I throughly enjoy your content. Keep doing what you do.
@normak5731 Жыл бұрын
I can appreciate the face that Adrian didn’t blame the gun but the reckless girl handling it. Thank you for that.
@MariusKennedy Жыл бұрын
same, as someone who's interested in firearms.
@CiderDivider2 жыл бұрын
What really makes me uncomfortable about this case is what Snow was posting after the murder. Trying to carry on without showing they'd killed someone on what would have been just another night of drinks and watching a show. Disgusting.
@DoYouEvenGambitBro2 жыл бұрын
First I thought: I don't want to judge how someone is grieving and if that means producing content, even death themed, that could be fine. But the way they setup the videos could not have been any worse, like they were mocking them. Awful.
@monolyn2 жыл бұрын
She's a complete narcissist but what else can you expect from someone who's young, pretty, and popular.
@DoYouEvenGambitBro2 жыл бұрын
@@monolyn ooofff to that worldview. she was crazy in the coconut, but that doesnt make people who pass as pretty or popular (which is both subjective af) to natural born sociopaths...
@Libellulaire2 жыл бұрын
@@DoYouEvenGambitBro The videos are set up like that because Snow is cosplaying as a yandere. The characters they portray are girls who aren't mentally stable, who kill and harm others for and because of love. They'll kill the one they love in order to keep them to themselves, but they'll also kill anybody who goes against them or the person they love. Some of them also cut/kill the one they love because they find them more attractive like that, because it's their way of loving, and such. "Yanderes" are a very twisted type... So the fact Snow was all that cheerful talking about death and murders is "normal" regarding the characters they were playing as, and all their videos were probably of the same kind. It still doesn't make it right, but I also felt it could have been Snow's way to grieve or to maybe reject reality. Although they might just be completely disconnected from reality, so drown into their yandere cosplay universe they don't even understand what's real or not, what's right and wrong anymore.
@monolyn2 жыл бұрын
@@DoYouEvenGambitBro I said narcissist not sociopath? Are you confused or just trying to strawman?
@jummper242 жыл бұрын
As a cosplayer, I'm happy to see them FINALLY get exposed by mainstream media! They literally killed someone amongst other terrible things for years and they seemingly got away with it for so long without anyone in the community batting an eye. Thank you for being the first to really hold them accountable and exposing them so hopefully they can stop being glorified by their psycho fans
@bannedmann44692 жыл бұрын
Pussy pass stronk.
@Dr.Gunsmith2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely 🙏
@dbznz14652 жыл бұрын
She. She is a girl.
@user-je3fd8qf5g2 жыл бұрын
Who is they? Is a she.
@oliviatree2 жыл бұрын
One person did the killing here, not two.
@carrie21292 жыл бұрын
Local Houstonian here, thank you for this video! It’s been so hard to find information about this case and about Helen’s story. I’m super suspicious of Snow’s initial statements about what happened and can’t wait for an update. I was even more suspicious when Helen’s mother said they are a family that’s very aware of guns and gun safety. Even without the really messed up posts, and there were some really dark, messed up posts, I don’t trust their version of what happened. I predict one of the witnesses will admit Helen never asked to be pretend shot at and Snow was just being drunk and reckless with a gun. Rest in Power Helen 💕
@aelaworld2 жыл бұрын
Bonus : they broke their curfew to go to a cosplay convention. You can see the device on their ankle on some videos, it's hidden by caution tape or cropped out of the video.
@dirt55472 жыл бұрын
What you wrote makes no sense. she is a singular person not a group. Cowering to this nonsense is feeding the "woke" movement. I bet she wants equal rights and equal wages too.
@johntully81762 жыл бұрын
SHE.. she is a SHE. Not they. Do you not know basic English?
@antisocialal47992 жыл бұрын
@@johntully8176 Yes, and basic English says that “they” can be used as singular person or a group. What do you call someone you don’t know? They/them. If you don’t know the gender of a person, you usually use that in basic English.
@antisocialal47992 жыл бұрын
@@dirt5547 Yes, the “woke movement” is telling you to…. *checks notes*…… use pronouns and linguistics?
@simpleori_bs2 жыл бұрын
@@dirt5547 oh no how dare "she" want equality. Use their correct pronouns, call them by they/them, and stop being a clown who probably thinks everything is "woke" when it's actually a lovely thing called freedom to be yourself. You're probably a 50 year old trump supporter who goes around saying racist, misogynistic and transphobic remarks whilst being some white male who has never done a single good deed in his life. Sit down and realise that the world around you is progressing, while your IQ is not, and has stayed at the level of a 5 year old for probably 45 years. Not hard to respect people's pronouns.
@bilindalaw-morley1612 жыл бұрын
Adrian thanks for showing the diagram of the gun and explaining about it still being loaded. It's a small detail, but I've never seen a diagram during years of being a True Crime curiosity seeker. As an Australian, I've never even held a pistol or revolver. I've shot with a shotgun, but only a couple of times decades ago. It's an example of your commitment to true reporting and research, so, again, thanks.
@UndeadEyes2 жыл бұрын
I once had to point a real .45 at someone for a zombie-photoshoot with the safety off due to the angle. Before we began, I had the girl I'd be pointing it at come over and told her I had to show her it was empty (and verify for myself). Despite her saying it was fine, I explained that this wasn't optional. I took out the magazine and verified it was empty, checked the chamber, cocked and checked the chamber again, double checked the barrel, etc. It was 100% empty and I knew it, but I was still going to triple check and show her as well. Lightest trigger finger on that gun still during the shoot. Everything went fine. Even knowing that gun could not fire a bullet because it was 100% empty, I was still paranoid about it. It's better to be paranoid than for someone to end up dead. Everyone needs to understand that all because a magazine is removed, that doesn't mean squat if there's one in the chamber. It takes one mistake with a gun for someone to be dead. So, like you, I'm happy he explained this and showed the diagram.
@taylorcliff6609 Жыл бұрын
@@UndeadEyes generally curious question. why not just use a prop? so many options out there, if its only for a photo shoot why even use a real gun?.
@Trogramming Жыл бұрын
" Why did you shoot the wall, Officer Pryzbylewski?" Also G'day cobber! I'm from Brisbane :) You must be from one of the colder climates down in Victoria or Tassie? Up in the subtropics we all open-carry in case of drop-bears.
@dressesandsuits Жыл бұрын
Her actions after the death speak volumes. Truly horrific.
@milfshagger6662 жыл бұрын
Snow was infamous in the cosplay community for years for doing things such as cosplay photoshoots in graveyards posing on people's gravestones, sexualising child characters and being horrible to people at conventions and somehow they were always defended. Not many people left to defend them after this atrocity and what they did to poor Helen, but unfortunately snow stans will try and excuse anything
@Kazuma09152 жыл бұрын
Incels will defend her. Those are not true to the culture in anime world.
@alaskanathabaskan69662 жыл бұрын
*she
@Lavonne12 жыл бұрын
She is just giving the audience what they want.
@mai80432 жыл бұрын
@@alaskanathabaskan6966 imagine caring about someone’s gender more then the fact that they’re a murderer lmao 💀
@alaskanathabaskan69662 жыл бұрын
@@mai8043 does misgendering trigger you?
@aaron89772 жыл бұрын
“Don’t go around collecting red flags” This statement works in every kind of relationship you’re involved in; friends, family, and romantic
@simonturner54252 жыл бұрын
As a fellow Oberlin student, I must correct one fact, the school never shut down because of a surge in cases(the most we had in a single month was 20, out of 2,000 people there), that time was our winter break. Otherwise, great video. This is tragic and as you said, many Oberlin students, me included, never knew this was what happened
@knightofiris2 жыл бұрын
I have friends in the cosplay community and they said that this was a long time coming. No one was surprised, but they were disheartened that someone lost their life. It seems like Snow just doesn’t care about the consequences of their actions.
@Fleato2 жыл бұрын
Of course not. They get that free hot girl validation on everything they do online. Why would someone who’s constantly receiving positive reinforcement worry about how they effect others
@lukesball12 жыл бұрын
@@Fleato You mean free hot they/them validation, bigot.
@Glosoli42 жыл бұрын
Long time coming? Please explain. 😂
@ng.tr.s.p.12542 жыл бұрын
@@lukesball1 the b8 is strong with this one
@realalcibiades29092 жыл бұрын
Who is they? Im just seeing one person and it's a female 😐
@SNP-1999 Жыл бұрын
One of the first things taught to us in the military was "never, ever point a gun/rifle etc. at another person, even if you think it is unloaded" - just don't do it, and stupid, avoidable accidents like this one just cannot happen. The military knows what it is doing, but some cretins obviously do not.
@tonyamari32 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you noted the recklessness act, because as a law abiding, legal firearm owner…you NEVER assume. You always double check and never pull the trigger unless you intend to fire. I live in Houston, and am so surprised to not have heard about this. Thank you for bringing up cases that the media didn’t cover due to other things.
@emmylafoo19862 жыл бұрын
I get that she loves herself, I just don’t understand why
@moxiemaxie35432 жыл бұрын
Theres good people who dont love themselves. Its not cute to have self hate.You're stuck with yourself 24/7 so you better find a way to love yourself. I got an ailment that caused physical change to me appearance. I have to find a way to love the new vessel I'm in. I hope you love yourself
@thanib77962 жыл бұрын
LMAO. Same. Her videos are hella weird and cringe.
@KyleCotton12 жыл бұрын
Snow's mugshot is a testament to the mighty power of makeup/costume and a little editing!! Holy smokes! Lol
@marz_mitzi2 жыл бұрын
and having a female body/soft face
@crttsome75042 жыл бұрын
😩
@naturallyweird6612 жыл бұрын
The fact that other people knew and they didn't even make a noise when she was posting for months and making bank right after killing a person they called friends ...some friendship that is
@jroeglin07292 жыл бұрын
Snow needs to get 20 years. She also needs to grow up and do whatever she can to make amends for killing a person. Seems she thinks very highly of herself however she's soon going to learn that in the real world, no one else does. What a horrific and sad case.
@thecook89642 жыл бұрын
You can't raise the dead- you can't make amends...
@laurengilmore46972 жыл бұрын
They
@lainiwakura17762 жыл бұрын
Only 20? 50 sounds better, considering her obvious lack of remorse.
@EB_musik2 жыл бұрын
@@laurengilmore4697 It
@cosmicvagrant39802 жыл бұрын
Sand Baldwin deserves 20 as well.
@ApparitionCondition2 жыл бұрын
I remember hearing about this when it first happened and felt so enraged. The signs that Snow was capable of these things were always there and a large portion of the cosplay community tried so desperately to make that known- we tried so hard to voice the damage this person could do- and even when the death of Helen occurred, their fan base continued. I remember seeing many comments on the lines of “she didn’t even die, you guys are being dramatic.” Sick. Sick and twisted. As a cosplayer, this case makes me sick with anger.
@blackhawk_Enochserpent Жыл бұрын
Be careful, people who take fictional characters serious are reckless.
@MarieORourke-e3v8 ай бұрын
My grandson likes cosplay. He is the most peaceful person you could ever meet. He has a lovely imagination. Snow let down the cosplay community.
@asphaltspreader2 жыл бұрын
Too many accidental shootings have occurred due to he "one int he chamber" scenario. From people shooting themselves when cleaning a gun to others being shot in a reckless moment. The latter was the case here. It is clear from the actions of Snow The Salt Queen that she is a sociopath; meaning she has no feelings of guilt or responsibility. May Helen rest in peace.
@annikawebster1757 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I found that interesting. I had not heard of this case before. What a sad end to such a young life. I like how you picked out the videos to show too as it showed them in motion and gave more of a insight to their world. Well done.
@lesflaya2 жыл бұрын
My ex and I used to hang out in cosplay circles when we were like 14-16, and we knew this girl that was just super unstable. My ex was better friends with her but she also cosplayed a lot, not as popular as Snow, but still. She ended up murdering her 'boyfriend', and she's in prison now. This case just brought back all those memories, it's so insane how lovely and fun memories I have of being young and having so much fun during anime and cosplay conventions and then stuff like this can happen seemingly out of nowhere. Rest in peace to Helen, she seemed like a great soul.
@NostalgiaVivec2 жыл бұрын
this sort of stuff seems to happen a lot in fandom circles, i remember when i used to cosplay when i was a teen i ended up meeting some people who i could tell were not safely stable might be something to do with attention for them or maybe being someone else so that they dont have to try and impress people with their real selves (for the unstable ones ofc not the more normal people i did it cos i wanted an excuse to walk around in armour a lot lmao)
@ZombieDowneyJr2 жыл бұрын
"Allegedly Accidental." ..The more I hear about this case, the more it sounds an awful lot like Snow shot that girl on purpose.
@AshNikkosWife Жыл бұрын
They definitely did. They never pointed it at the other friend. They were hoping Helen would offer - and they could do it. ☹️ it’s awful
@Eid0lon Жыл бұрын
Yeah they had it against their friend’s head and then immediately put it down. But they didn’t do that for Helen. Sounds a lot like it was on purpose to me
@freakctc Жыл бұрын
@@Eid0lon The problem is that it's a glock pistol, and they are known for having sensitive triggers compared to other similar caliber pistols, and not having safety switches. It's possible that she didn't even realize she pulled the trigger until she heard the bang. I'm considering that the events reported at the 'party' were compiled from statements taken from all witnesses present, it doesn't sound like it was intentional. Most people instinctually put their finger inside the ring of a pistol when they hold it. You are taught in any gun licensing course that is unsafe and stupid behavior unless you intend to shoot. The whole thing just reeks of someone with no formal training wielding a gun.
@BalboaBaggins Жыл бұрын
@@AshNikkosWife She*
@BalboaBaggins Жыл бұрын
She*
@ComradeMaryFromMars Жыл бұрын
Yall more upset about they them pronouns than actual murder that's weird
@VenomLeon7 ай бұрын
It's because it's confusing and will easily put people off rhythm while trying to follow the story.
@rosamead-metzler90452 жыл бұрын
You're extremely gentle and respectful. I'm a Great-Grandmother who appreciates a quiet approach,which is why I subscribed. Blessings. 💗
@KirbyKips2 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised that this killer just so happened to be dressed up as Junko Enoshima? A character who basically toppled all of society and killed people in horrifically brutal ways just because she was bored?
@mauriciomagalhaes1812 жыл бұрын
and the amount of phrases that start with "DESPAIR" .
@tiffanyclark-grove19892 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@SadboiSenpai2 жыл бұрын
Except you didn't play v3 and apparently don't know the entire series is a fake reality show
@Quon2 жыл бұрын
that's kinda like saying people who watch true crime channels are more likely to become killers
@angusmcnay54492 жыл бұрын
Because Danganronpa is already a massive red flag
@multiverse-collection11 ай бұрын
Treat every weapon as if it were loaded Never point a weapon at anything you do not intend to shoot Keep your finger straight and off the trigger until you are ready to fire Keep your weapon on safe until you intend to fire
@aidenx13972 жыл бұрын
holy shit… i… i’m absolutely speechless. a couple years back i was in deep with the danganronpa fandom. i /knew/ of snow and helen. i witnessed the graveyard controversy unfold live all over instagram and saw the rumors that helen was being mistreated. before the graveyard controversy, i had actually admired snow’s work and cosplays (not a fan of the tiktoks though; cosplay tiktoks aren’t my cup of tea), i thought her junko and mikan cosplays were beautiful. to find out that she’s…she’s a murderer?? holy shit. i was completely unaware of this until now. i saw the thumbnail of this video and my heart legitimately dropped; someone i admired… is a murderer?? no less, a murderer of a friend?? a truly innocent human being who did nothing wrong, just wanting to please her friends and fit in?? my god. i’m heartbroken for helen and livid at snow. this is just… this is insane. i’d also like to add a quick “thank you” for openly and plainly saying that being LGBTQ-especially trans-is /not/ a harmful thing in the slightest and has no influence on someone’s character. so many people immediately assume that being LGBTQ has a link to someone being fucked up or not, and as an LGBTQ person, that truly hurts. so, thank you for doing that and showing respect for my community.
@Esth.12 жыл бұрын
Agreeing completely with the last part, he's so respectful in his wording
@endless3cho2 жыл бұрын
It's frustrating to watch ppl pretend that mental health issues are cool. You even have ppl pretending to have certain ones as if it's a fad or something.
@PhoenixLyon2 жыл бұрын
This cosplay person doesn't seem to have it together. I personally think Snow wanted to shoot someone, and their lack of remorse kind of points to sociopathy. Just my thought.✌😸
@Durlomthir2 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixLyon Well, doing the videos she did after the fact definitely proves she lacks empathy.
@theycallmet30612 жыл бұрын
@Christina Saladin If I could I'd sell my nutsack on Ebay to get rid of my CPTSD that's honestly been a bitch and a half to deal with lately but HaHa mental illness is quirky and cool amirite? Nope.
@endless3cho2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad there's less stigma around mental illness. I'm not glad that these ppl think the things ppl go through mentally are trivial.
@theycallmet30612 жыл бұрын
@@endless3cho Preach it Like yes I'm going through shit but I'm not gonna murder my best friend because of it. Like,I wish I could punch my abuser who gave me said PTSD in the face,but I think that's fairly normal compared to playing with a gun.
@Right_Said_Brett Жыл бұрын
Definite sociopath vibes coming from "Snow The Salt Queen's"' behaviour.
@AnonYmous-en7op2 жыл бұрын
You're the best crime channel. You're so respectful towards the victims and you try to focus on the morbidness but humanity behind these cases. There's no overhyped grotesque.
@spookyufo982 жыл бұрын
i just grabbed a coffee and opened youtube to find something to watch. perfect timing! thanks for all your hard work, adrian! it’s much appreciated ❤️ edit: just finished watching. this is so heartbreaking. i can’t imagine the pain of helen’s family. i wish this hadn’t happened to them, they had so much ahead of them. snow is absolutely disgusting and deserves the fullest consequences for her actions. they appear to have no remorse for what they did. 💔
@midopon2 жыл бұрын
both of the people in this story are non-binary and go by ''they''! I do agree with everything you've said tho, it is terribly sad what happened and I hope Snow is prosecuted to the extent of the law.
@Kay-xz3cy2 жыл бұрын
I was confused as well on only one person being given the correct pronouns. Maybe there’s a piece he’s forgotten to mention in relation to Helen?
@spookyufo982 жыл бұрын
@@midopon thank you for correcting me! i edited my post appropriately. i apologize for the misuse, i meant no harm!
@jeffbrownstain2 жыл бұрын
I always have to save the vid till my next coffee x.x
@aotphixion2 жыл бұрын
@@midopon you’re so cringe lol
@Queen_Nyxie2 жыл бұрын
And just how sure are we really that pulling that trigger was an accident? While it's true that we all process death differently, I've only seen those such as thrill killers process a death by their own hands in such a way...
@ChalkyMonkey62 жыл бұрын
Bra she even pointed at the dude and put it down then mysteriously pulled the trigger on her because obviously she was safe with the guy she put it down and she didn’t pull the trigger which means she was probably being careful
@lunayoshi2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I was kind of thinking Coffeehouse should have put an "alleged" in front of every time he brought it up as being an accident. Her shooting the gun was reckless and possibly an accident, but it also sounds fishy as hell.
@logan93052 жыл бұрын
@@ChalkyMonkey6 pointing a gun at someone without a sound justification is never careful.
@ChalkyMonkey62 жыл бұрын
@@logan9305 well duh but pulling a trigger as a joke an not even touching the trigger is still carful
@logan93052 жыл бұрын
@@ChalkyMonkey6 no
@beawhite4516 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand how those attendees would feel comfortable with someone waving a gun around. A gun is not a toy. Snow should be in jail.
@Dr3Mc3Ninja2 жыл бұрын
As someone who has never touched a gun, I still know that you treat every gun as if it is loaded, no matter what. Her killing her, doesn't seem like a mistake, because her return to the internet doesn't seem like it was a hard choice. To accidentally kill your friend would be devastating, she seems fine.
@nefarioussovereign2 жыл бұрын
part of her "yandere trope" ??? kids need to stop becoming fictional characters. be yourself.
@cparty7790 Жыл бұрын
Always, ALWAYS, assume a gun is loaded until YOU personally have checked it, and even then... never point it at anything your not willing to kill. With the exception of small children, the court will always find the person handling the weapon guilty. "I didn't know the gun was loaded" literally hasn't flown as a defense for over a century. Even as a staunchly pro gun guy, I fully support them having the book thrown right in their face.
@Jenny734152 жыл бұрын
This could have absolutely been prevented. Some top gun safety rules are always assume a gun is loaded. Always keep the gun pointed in a safe direction. Never put your finger on the trigger, unless you intend on pulling it.
@bilindalaw-morley1612 жыл бұрын
I'm suspicious of Snow's intent. She didn't properly aim the gun or pull the trigger with the first girl, but she was quick to do so with Helen. Also, with regard to her arrogance about the shocking disrespect she showed in the cemetary, even Logan Paul apologised when he was shown how many people he'd upset with the Suicide Forest vid
@Brainhacker52 жыл бұрын
Nothing sickens me more than hearing that someone was killed by a gun that was both not locked away safely, but also treated as if it were unloaded when it clearly wasnt. It goes against everything gun safety instructors and legal firearm owners fight for. But this individual is absolutely despiciable and disgusting for what they did to their friend. She deserves life in prison. Another well done and researched case, Adrian. Mondays are my favorite days for work because lots of uploads happen and I can listen to them throughout the day. Thank you! EDIT: I realize that I may have been a bit overzealous with the "life in prison" statement, however I do believe they should get something much more severe than a manslaughter charge with a minimum of 2 years.
@LavaCreeperPeople2 жыл бұрын
Bruh danganronpa
@Considerable_Ounce2 жыл бұрын
A trend that I noticed recently is that people who are vocally anti-gun often seem to be the people who end up having firearm accidents or shooting someone. I think that (even if someone is anti gun), they should learn firearm safety basic. You dont need to own a gun or even really hold a gun to learn about gun safety.
@aahhh32072 жыл бұрын
Everybody make mistakes that is the in our nature, but with guns it can be deadly.
@sabrinastratton19912 жыл бұрын
Just went to gun safety. They said always check the firearm yourself cause how do YOU know it’s actually unloaded or not?
@Brainhacker52 жыл бұрын
@@Considerable_Ounce I agree completely. Having knowledge about proper safety and handling will prevent further tragedies like this regardless on your stance politically.
@Operator-Nova Жыл бұрын
I hope people learn a lesson. Don’t try to be “edgy” around guns. If you want to be cringy, don’t do it with something that can kill you.
@BreakfastCroissants2 жыл бұрын
Given her response to killing her friend and impulsive, vain behavior, if snow gets out i wouldn’t be surprised if she eventually kills someone else to relive the experience. I also blame her ex for letting his ex who calls herself a yandere not only access his gun but play with it. “Do me next” though. So many things were wrong about this.
@imperfectasakura72442 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking, if Snow did it to themself first surely they'd have shot themself? Unless they didnt pull the trigger when they did it to themself, but then why did they pull it when aiming at Helen? Unless Snow knew there was a bullet in there and deliberately only pulled the trigger when aiming at their friend
@marz_mitzi2 жыл бұрын
@@imperfectasakura7244 don't insult actual, genuine people with calling her "they" imagine respecting a fucking monster/murderer
@imperfectasakura72442 жыл бұрын
@@marz_mitzi i just couldnt be bothered with the inevitable 50 replies telling me off for saying she, like all the other comments on here. Clearly didnt work. Also i really dont care what their gender is so makes no difference
@whitedragoness232 жыл бұрын
He should never of given her gun at all and unless it was stolen he should be fined at least since money makes people think twice when they lose money
@1uppeach2 жыл бұрын
It was absolutely unintentionally. They feel fucking awful and traumatised about it all. I'm not defending Snow at all, but they don't want to kill.
@SpookySenpai6662 жыл бұрын
As someone who's been aware of snow's controversies since before the graveyard stunt, this is significantly unsurprising. I really hope we get to see them suffer the consequences of their actions.
@carlholland3819 Жыл бұрын
thank god the cemetery supervisor recognized snow as nonbinary
@arieldanielle232 жыл бұрын
I grew up knowing plenty of gun owners and hunters and one thing they always drilled into my head as a kid was "there's no such thing as an unloaded gun." Which of course isn't necessarily true but it's just the frame of mind that you always have to keep. Even if you pulled the magazine and ejected the chamber yourself, always *always* treat it as if it will fire, even on its own. Never point it anything you aren't going to shoot. Never touch the trigger unless you're ready to shoot.
@PhoenixLyon2 жыл бұрын
Well said!!✌😸
@ultraturbojack29262 жыл бұрын
“We even have a pool in the shape of Texas!” Somewhere Hank Hill is crying tears of joy and beauty.
@Snakes_Explained2 жыл бұрын
I see a coffeehouse crime notification. I click. It’s really that simple.
@missyrose21542 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@10tenore902 жыл бұрын
💯
@zerrierslizer1 Жыл бұрын
i knew Helen. she was a briliant girl, and loved what she did in the Cosplay community. i met her when we were kids, as she traveled to Norway on more than one ocation, and often traveled through the area i grew up in, as it was a sort of Crossroad. when she started doing Cosplay i supported her through it through thick and thin, and never questioned her about it as i was a part of tha community as well, doing some metal work for some cosplayers in the nearby city areas in Norway, mainly Bergen, Trondheim and Oslo. when she went silent, i didnt think much of it as she had episodes where she just ignored anyone and everyone for a period of time. when i got to know she was dead, i almost commited suicide as a result, due to her being one of my absolute best friends, and losing her was too much at the time... she was a briliant girl, and i loved her like a sister. Rest in Peace Helen. we all miss you, and i will never forget how friendly you were to me even if i was different.
@BalboaBaggins Жыл бұрын
"briliant girl"
@zerrierslizer1 Жыл бұрын
@@BalboaBaggins 15yo wannabe Teen-Queen spotted.
@richardtaylor56702 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of what happenes when someone that has no business handling a weapon gets their hands on 1. Basic gun safety, always assume a weapon is loaded and always check for urself, never point a weapon at something u aren't prepared to destroy and keep ur finger off the trigger unless u r ready to shoot. Lock ur guns up ppl, keep them out of the hands of idiots like snow
@MaddieMisanthrope2 жыл бұрын
Facts. I literally learned this as a CHILD.
@johnnylego8072 жыл бұрын
Thankyou man! Was looking for this comment! I get it, the guy was educating by showing the firearm and how it “works” but that’s completely besides the point, you never ever point a firearm at something you don’t intend on killing. And pulling the trigger smh 🤦🏻♂️ These people shouldn’t of been within 10,000ft of a firearm. It’s like a bunch of children playing with a toy, scary asl. And the “exboyfriend” is an !d!ot for keeping it laying out for his girl (who I am assuming he taught 0 firearm saftey) to play with like a toy and “cosplay” with. all around a sad situation that a life was lost.
@AdachiCabbage2 жыл бұрын
Sadly people can just get them illegally now with a bit of money.
@rishabhj27902 жыл бұрын
I live in India and ive been to Houston before, my paternal aunt and her family used to live there. NGL I was mesmerized to see what the city had to offer. It is gut-wrenching to see that such a tragic incident occurred in such a lively city.
@sal73552 жыл бұрын
Hey Coffeehouse!! On the first video you showed of Snow after the murder, the caption was along the lines of “pov: after a night of drinking your friend wakes you up like this.” They definitely knew what they were doing.
@Nightman221k2 жыл бұрын
It’s crazy how different makeup makes someone look. I didn’t even register it as Snow without makeup when you put it up. I actually thought the mugshot was a guy.
@PaleHorseShabuShabu2 жыл бұрын
I didn't think it was a guy, but it took me a few seconds to realize that it had to be Snow. It makes me appreciate my wife's natural beauty even more than I already do.
@Glosoli42 жыл бұрын
I’m jealous of her bone structure. She could’ve been a model. Too bad things went the way they did.
@karamei2 жыл бұрын
Agree, she looked like aileen wuornos in that photo legit. Wigs and makeup can do crazy things especially when you're pale and essentially featureless aside from an ok jawline.
@cultusfetus2 жыл бұрын
@@Glosoli4 the fact that she's a literal murderer took away her good looks. at least for me.
@raineyday69082 жыл бұрын
@@Glosoli4 their pronouns are they/them
@fee92242 жыл бұрын
Snow is also a big time scammer. The story of the $300 wigs is insane
@aalluunaa2 жыл бұрын
the fact that people still support them after everything they’ve done is so sad. I hope to god they get what they deserve.
@YourMissingEyeBrow2 жыл бұрын
How many of them were there?
@operandexpanse2 жыл бұрын
*she. We don’t need to pander to those ridiculous pronoun demands.
@The_Order_Of_William_Marshal2 жыл бұрын
She*
@Kidderbean2 жыл бұрын
Its a she, its not a them.
@Kidderbean2 жыл бұрын
This pronoun crap is one of the stupidest things i’ve ever seen. It needs to go away.
@jonnygriffiths76682 жыл бұрын
You and ThatChapter have officially convinced me to stay safely put in Cambridgeshire 🥶
@kaycee21042 жыл бұрын
Both channels make me never want to go anywhere XD
@Bootigieg Жыл бұрын
This is exactly why when someone accidently waves a gun around you freak tf out if it points near y
@carebear87622 жыл бұрын
This wasn't any kind of "accidental" killing. At least it should be charged as criminally negligent homicide, and I'd actually charge Manslaughter due to the callous disregard for safety involved. In that case, much like a DUI, intoxication is no mitigator.
@cosmicvagrant39802 жыл бұрын
Hope you see Baldwin's case in even hasher terms.
@carebear87622 жыл бұрын
@@cosmicvagrant3980 From what I can tell from the media reports, which are all self-serving to one degree or another, Baldwin as Producer owns the entire debacle civilly, and possibly criminally. From what I can tell from varying statements by varying people, but have no way to confirm, SAG rules require the actor to either check the weapon personally or, if not comfortable doing so or not allowed by some other rules, have it checked in front of them. If that is the case, Baldwin is definitely on the hook for criminal negligence. I'd say he's on the hook regardless as "pointing a real firearm is inherently dangerous" is common knowledge and not checking, relying on the claim of another, is inherently negligent as in the case above. His recent claim he didn't pull the trigger seems odd. He may be trying to introduce more doubt and put the blame on the armorer or gun for a mechanical failure on top of the ammo error. "Sure I pointed it, but I didn't know it was loaded, and even if it was, I never pulled the trigger it just "went off." Seems risky as everything he says publicly, even the parts cut from the interview, is subpoenable and can be used to impeach him at trial, and mechanical serviceability is a fact statement which can be objectively verified.
@cosmicvagrant39802 жыл бұрын
@@carebear8762 Well said, good sir. Carry on.
@jackhoffman1957 Жыл бұрын
Your use of 'them' and 'they' to sound more progressive makes this thing impossible to listen to like how can the listener discern when you're talking about one person, or a group???
@randomcomment6068 Жыл бұрын
This. And for non native English speakers is even more confusing..