Family Horror | The Strange Case of Cameron Rogers

Cameron was given a second chance in life thanks to his adoptive parents, but fast forward 21 years and they would pay for this decision with their lives. What followed was a disturbing phone call to authorities and a series of horrific confessions...
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[@birchouse]

Man this interrogator was just top notch. Even-handed, empathetic, and kept the momentum of the interrogation going. Absolute professional.

[@jm329]

Interesting. Other videos I have seen have people in the comments complaining that she is treating him like a kid and that she should be fired.

[@helenadasilva9371]

@@jm329 personally I felt his demeanour through the clips in this video is child like, and he has only a little grasp of his what is happening, so I think it is a good way to make him talk. If they where harder on him he might just shut down.

[@bladenukem]

Yeah, she did a good job. Its weird, kinda like an interrogation for a murder investigation being conducted by a kindergarden teacher.

[@soju81]

@@jm329 I can see why they said that but I think the interrogator was speaking to him like that because she could sense he was autistic. Like others said, if she screamed at him, he probably would've cried more and shut down.

[@MoA-Reload...]

@@jm329 and they'd be wrong imo. If this guy really is Autistic odds are pushing him will just shut him down. The aim is to keep him at ease, don't allow his thoughts to race out of control and keep him talking. imo the interrogator should be getting a raise :)

[@xenotbbbeats7209]

I think it's even more chilling when murder comes out of the blue and the perpetrator has no explanation. That, to me, is an indication that the person is deeply disturbed and extremely unpredictable and dangerous.

[@dontmindme633]

For real. If the mom was worried about him being dangerous she wouldn’t have handed him a knife to carve the melon.

[@chateaupig826]

He was just mis understood

[@alicemiller9304]

Encapsulated psychpath. Something feared by all mental health workers.

[@stone-sama7314]

most murders happen in moments of anger, mostly from people who arent psychopaths, you clearly dont know anything about psychology, look at the statistics

[@joli395]

@@dontmindme633 Who said his mom was worried that he is dangerous?

[@GoJoLy2301]

it’s very telling how he’s says he “did” his mom, then “did” his dad. he grasps the concept of death and harming others, but in the way a kid does.

[@Loosh66]

That doesn't make his actions any more acceptable. He's still a cold-blooded monster that knows exactly what he did to his parents. A lot of murderers use substitute words to feel better about their actions.

[@thaiscorreaa]

@@Loosh66 he is not a monster. He is a human being like you and me. Don't dehumanize killers. It makes them something out of our reality and they are not. This guy killed people who took him in, loved and provided everything he needed. Killers look like normal people and they are always close to someone. Dehumanizing them is shutting your eyes to reality. And that's extremely dangerous.

[@QuigsAnton]

@@thaiscorreaa He dehumanized himself when he did this.

[@thaiscorreaa]

@@QuigsAnton yet they come in human form such as you and me. "Oh but he looked so normal, he doesn't look like a monster to me. I could never imagined he would do such heinous acts". That's the problem. We imagine something unusual and alien. But they look like us. That's why you don't dehumanize killers that way. You shut your eyes to signs and red flags "because he doesn't look like a monster". That's my point.

[@DudeWheresMyCardz]

I think it's more because physically saying "I killed my mom and killed my dad" proved too difficult.

[@two-bit8502]

His parents were "controlling" because they knew he needed guidance and wouldn't be able to make it without them.

[@ykjo5613]

The story of too many kids these days

[@MimiRAM0NE]

@BOB K If he got fired from a job, he probably would have killed his boss and co-workers.

[@randomcomment6068]

@@MimiRAM0NE Not with no melon around. 🍈🍉

[@Trenchcoat3]

And as a full grown adult man if he didn't like it he could have left at any time.

[@randomcomment6068]

@@Trenchcoat3 He is/was a stunted autist with behavioral problems that were never addressed. His thought process is sänkt all the way.

[@mrmatt6231]

The interrogator has such a calming approach. Not what you usually see in these sorts of situations. Props to her.

[@SoulSeeker20]

Almost exactly what you see in these situations when you're dealing with a mentally disturbed person where they either admit their crime, or the crime is clear-cut. The investigator will typically take a calm approach in order for them to be more receptive towards them. The friendlier the disposition and rapport-building, the more they open up, and the information you can get out of them without them asking for legal counsel. You come in too strong or aggressive, they can shut down and give you nothing, which - in a court room - any leeway gives opportunity for the defense to change the narrative. It's not only about showing culpability, but ruling out a plea of insanity from the defense. But yes, typically after the investigator has collected all pertinent information, they "could" give a fuck less and their demeanor "could change" during the interrogation.

[@ginger7344]

She didn’t appear to fake it tho. A real gem.

[@lainaugu7285]

of course... he's mentally disturbed like his own mental people

[@randyhutchings373]

She's Canadian, can't expect any less

[@fourthhorsemendeath218]

When dealing with someone with mental issues, it's better to speak to them calmly. Helped me when I was upset.

[@ChelleJohn]

This was a really hard one to watch. That poor woman suffered so much.

[@debbied9997]

Yes, how horrible to be laying there, knowing your son just stabbed you; she probably knew her husband was dead and then just moaned in pain until your body finally died. Horrible!

[@laurenwest3090]

Yes! Wanted to slap the shit out of him when he said she was crying saying she was in so much pain!..

[@katietaylor8314]

I imagined my own mother lying on the kitchen floor in agony for hours like that, and of course that just made it even worse. 😩

[@bjj9711]

yes I agree and I have watched alot of these murders but this stands out as a really tough one

[@daniellew.9957]

And she was such a bad ass in life

[@flo_wer]

This is heartbreaking. For the mom to lie there for hours in pain knowing what her son did and that her husband is right next to her dead. I cant imagine all the thoughts she may be thinking through all that

[@chateaupig826]

Probably wished she'd let him do a bit more on his own

[@toscadonna]

No good deed goes unpunished. I’m sure that crossed her mind.

[@sylphs2352]

I wonder the same thing... Heartbroken and dying by the hands of his own child, what a monster this guy is

[@thedukeofdeathpt6262]

@@chateaupig826 It's not like his parents were asking that much. They were just asking him to do a lil bit of chores. Seems like it's the minimum thing to ask when you're a kid living rent free in your parents' home. Heck, he wasn't even a kid at the time that he murdered his own parents, which shows that he's very lazy and immature.

[@mortalwombat78]

Probably thinking should've never adopted him.

[@Latenightloner]

I was also adopted out of a troubling situation by someone that was older (50-60). She was very strict and controlling. So I went to self medicating as a form of coping. So really I think his issue is inability to cope with troubling emotions and perhaps has trouble accepting that he does have a disability as well. It sounds like the parents did understand he had limitations which is why they offered to give him money instead of him working while trying to go through school with a job. Very sad situation for this family.

[@carra542]

Sorry you had to deal with that. I pray that you have seeked/are seeking help for yourself. For one, you admitting is the first step in therapy. Glad you are able to identify the problem.

[@sweetluvgurl]

I don’t know if I agree with his parents basically pushing him to go to college. I understand why, but also, I don’t think that’s necessarily for everyone. Also, I, too, grew up with very strict, controlling parents, and it definitely caused a lot of damage. That being said, I don’t think they deserved what happened to them at all (for anyone, who may try to twist what I’m saying).

[@emilycryder1096]

@@sweetluvgurl Agree. I am disabled. My parents never pushed/pressured me to go to college.

[@deniseroe5891]

There is definitely more than ADHD going on here. He seems more like 12 than 22. It’s a sad case all the way around. My son and I have ADHD, and it is difficult to deal with. Rest in peace.

[@jasminetaylor5416]

I believe he stated that he had autism too.

[@suzannep8371]

He’s more Autistic than ADHD

[@illig4912]

They stated that autism was expected. You really are adhd.

[@Irilia_neko]

But I don't think you ever try to go again the will of your son at the point of ruining is future, because it's what happened here ...

[@annahorvath2659]

@@Irilia_neko They may have been a tad too much but come on they did not deserve to be slaughtered like this.

[@persephoneblack888]

Wow, it took his mom all night to die. That's wickedly horrible. He knew she was in pain and dying and he still let it happen. Truly a disturbed individual.

[@melkorthefallen7580]

He isn't disturbed, he doesn't understand. When his mother didn't die immediately like his father, he didn't know what to do at that point because he did the same thing to both and was legitimately confused why she didn't die and his brain couldn't come up with another course of action. He didn't want her to suffer but he couldn't think of a way to fix it because what worked for his father should have for his mother and that was where his brain got stuck

[@sarahjaensch706]

@@melkorthefallen7580 you can't say that for sure, and that's a lot of speculation on your part. Being diagnosed with autism doesnt mean he couldn't make decisions or problem solve. He is fully responsible for his choices and actions which were cruel and selfish.

[@xGoD4CoD4x]

Aiiih to that guy ^ He’s got autistic traits. It’s BAD PARENTING, Sorry not sorry. But no, this parenting skills have no downward limits. Let a boy live his dreams. Simple.

[@melkorthefallen7580]

@@sarahjaensch706 I can say that because even high function autistic people struggle with things like that. Yes he knew it was wrong but intrusive thoughts can take hold and cause major issues. You can't view the situation as if he wasn't autistic because it's not the same.

[@sarahjaensch706]

@@melkorthefallen7580 I'm aware he has autism. What I'm saying is in your original comment you are trying to explain what's going on in his mind and you don't know what his thought process was. You have your opinion on what autism is but it's not the same for everyone. The facts presented here are he has high functioning autism, he can evaluate situations, makes decisions after thinking them through. Therefore you shouldn't try to lessen what he did because he has autism.

[@carnivorewitch]

I appreciate the geographical and cultural info you give for the backdrop of the story.

[@katrina_lynn06]

Kudos to the interrogator! She did a fantastic job interviewing Cameron. Professionalism at its best!

[@trishemerald2487]

OMG my mom used to work with his father here in Ottawa! She says they were the nicest people, and they did everything they could for their beloved son. We were so sad when this happened. :(

[@azazello1784]

That's the problem. If they were wise they would have enjoyed life together instead of adopting a kid.

[@papadave3084]

@azazello 17 Holy crapsticks! Really? ...Really?!? Well then, have a nice day.

[@Khalagessyca]

How do they know how they were behind closed doors?

[@dontmindme633]

@@azazello1784 yeah. Should have enjoyed their golden years. They probably really wanted to be parents though. Which is understandable.

[@shards0fwords]

@@azazello1784 booo. hiss.

[@sundelong2727]

I adopted four years old son 30 years ago . Despite he was witnessed his mother and grandmother killed by his father , he is a successful businessman at age of 34 . Two years ago he sent me birthday card. It wrote ,” To my beautiful mother. Happy birthday! Thank you for all the values that you have instilled in me and making me the man I am . I love you “ The blood doesn’t make a family but love does .

[@navisakura7374]

You’re a kind person for taking in a little boy who went through such a horrific tragedy, it’s great that he still grew up with a loving mother after going through that

[@kyrohowe3156]

Congratulations 🎊

[@Nostalgic_1]

It sounds as if you were both blessed to have each other in your lives. ❤️

[@jucat60]

How wonderful you have been such a loving mother to that little boy bless you both..

[@lowkeycometzz]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@bubblegumpop99]

The interrogator is amazing. So calm, cool, and collected, while ensuring that questioning continues smoothly. It is so sad what his parents went through. I can't imagine his poor mother crying in agony all night, and slowly dying. Mentall illness or not, he didn't appreciate everything they had done for him. They just wanted him to have a good life.

[@wanderingseth]

Adoption works out wonderfully for many people but it can also be a game of Russian roulette with hidden issues like foetal alcohol syndrome disorder and other developmental impairments, not to mention the potential for PTSD from prior environments. This kid was utter garbage and didn't deserve their love.

[@nodrogdivad]

That phone call 911 confession was SO CANADIAN! It almost seemed staged.... So utterly polite and calm. It's actually quite possibly the most shocking thing about this whole video. Hearing that call. It's so bizarre.

[@nodrogdivad]

BTW, IF he had made it across the bordern in Montreal.... he would've been in my hometown more than likely.

[@pollypockets508]

It was incredible.

[@eeccee11]

Eh

[@spudthepug]

The "Eh" had me cackling inappropriately.

[@dianasimms1810]

I think he just sounded completely weird.

[@javierpatag3609]

Man, how that cop could interrogate that kid so calmly, without raising her voice, without being overcome with emotion... That's something I could never do. Much respect for them.

[@robmarsh918]

I think it was because it was easy to read he had some sort of mental delay or disability, and that being aggressive would have been counterproductive. I feel like he would have been easily intimidated and closed up if a voice was raised or if he was pushed. Plus, there was no reason to be anything but calm and patient bc he was fully cooperating. There literally was no opportunity to push him.

[@astrowolvez]

Why would she randomly loose composure? If she’s an integrator she’s undoubtedly had to interrogate way more violent and stubborn people.

[@robmarsh918]

@@astrowolvez *lose

[@shockmazta3116]

That's an adult. Not a kid. I don't care if he's retarded, he should be treated like the scum he is.

[@yummyjackalmeat]

I think it helped that the kid was beyond self preservation, which is the biggest thing imo that would make the person leading lose their cool. It's so odd when the killer is like this.

[@JohnGavor29]

I understand if someone feels a lack of control in their lives, as I do too right now, but that doesn't give anyone the right to take lives based on it. **Especially** if your parents chose to give you happiness and a new life.

[@michaelbeard4883]

he obviously has something cognitively wrong with him more than adhd and autism

[@AkashSharma-sy7gm]

They lack morals and the family bond. Us Indians know better.

[@IronKore]

@@AkashSharma-sy7gm Indians don't kill like this?

[@Emerica771]

@@IronKore native Americans did a few centuries back lol

[@JohnGavor29]

@@AkashSharma-sy7gm I wouldn't exactly put it that way, but yes, Asian generations tend to have a baseline of parental respect that wouldn't allow us to think this way.

[@andymore62]

such a shame. There's so many people who could have benefitted from having these two as parents, and this psychopath killed them, despite providing a stable, loving upbringing for him. As someone who has loving, supportive parents, this really upsets me. It's like they won the reverse lottery when they adopted this kid.

[@jeon_artemis]

Was he diagnosed with psychopathy?

[@andymore62]

@@jeon_artemis that part of the comment is inconsequential to what I was saying. You can replace psychopath with ‘homicidal maniac’ if it makes you feel better.

[@24zex]

That was some epic professionalism from the dispatcher

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Such a sad case, his parents were really nice and willing to make sure he had an independent future.

[@Moongolio]

Sincerely, you don't know that...

[@thatoneundertalefanatic]

@@Moongolio Yes,he doesn't,but considering the info we got,that's a safe assumption.

[@bvbxiong5791]

some people are just stupid and ungrateful beyond belief. this guy was adopted, his parents saved him from foster home hell, gave him tons of love, set him up to succeed in life...and he kills them, smh.

[@svt80221]

See, here's the thing. There is such a thing as genetic predisposition. The parents were winners and Cameron definitely came from loser people. How can a loser like Cameron understand and live with winners like his foster parents? He can't. Their incompatibility caused this tragedy. Moral of the story is, if your adopted kid is stupid, return him asap.

[@Bat_Boy]

They canceled his World of Warcraft account.

[@rockymtndrone]

It’s so sad to see parents give so much to their kids in order to set them up for a good life only to receive entitlement and hatred in return, sadly I have noticed this a lot with some of my wealthy friends.

[@emsguybob]

"In his mind they were controlling"? They wouldn't let him work. They controlled everything..

[@rosedaleconfidential102]

I see that a lot with all children these days. Including so called adults.

[@tavvy9482]

@@emsguybob just from personal experience, when I worked during college my grades would TANK. They had the money to cover his needs, why would they let him potentially risk his grades?

[@bigwendigo2253]

Often wealthy parents with kids are super distant, don’t nurture their children, and just throw money at them like it’s going to fix whatever problem they’re dealing with as well. This doesn’t sound like one of those cases.

[@truenokill]

Yes - in fact statistics support your summation. Coddling and spoiling children is what makes them entitled no matter the money.

[@alannolet3109]

I live in Ottawa and followed this case closely, had even driven by the house on Apeldoorn. Detective Theresa Kelm was incredibly adept, like she was reassuring a child. I always felt that while Cameron clearly had awareness, he was of significantly diminished mental capacity, and I was never convinced that he had a full understanding. I felt like the child Detective Kelm was reassuring was Cameron. I never had the sense that he was criminally insane (he's no Hannibal Lecter), but I also never had the sense that he had a full awareness. I keep coming back to Theresa Kelm who seemed to be coaxing and soothing and reassuring a child. I don't have any kind of in-depth knowledge of what's required to meet the bar, in a legal sense, of diminished capacity. Prosecutors hunger for convictions, and it's clear that Cameron was responsible. But I didn't have the sense that he was functioning as an adult. I feel like they put a child behind bars, instead of in psychiatric care, where I feel he belongs.

[@tanja3693]

I have never seen a clearer example of someone on the spectrum combined with a reactive attachment disorder and alexithymia. The fact that he could kill 2 people who took care of him in this unemotional manner but not in rage, revenge or for financial gain, shows he has zero attachment to them but in my opinion is not a sociopath nor a psychopath. He has no superficial charm, he's not into things for personal gain, he's not sly, he's not a petty criminal. He just feels zero attachement to others. Taking only an hour to make a decision to do somthing as big as killing your parents is in fact impulsive. But again, it is not sociopathic rage where it happens in a matter of minutes, nor is he a psychopath who's been planning this carefully for weeks. It is a person who was unhappy about something in his life but completely lacks the emotional intelligence to identify his problem and communicate with someone about it and resorted to killing in a way someone with terrible executive functioning (planning, setting goals, persisting) would do. The fact that he doesn't understand where his urge to kill his parent came from is alexithymia. It's a symptom that can be found in many people with autism. It's having difficulties with understanding emotions and explaining emotions. People with alexithymia have a hard time detecting their own emotions and most of the time do not know what they mean. Not being affected by killing your parents but being distrought by seeing your mother in pain is also very typical ASS. While death is abstract and it might be hard for someone with ASS to understand the consequences of death and murder, hearing someone moan and cry is very real. Since his emotional intelligence is basically the one of a toddler, he probably was now just a child in panick, not knowing how to solve the problem he created. So he just sat in his room, waiting until the problem would go away on its own. This is someone with the mind of a young child commiting a crime. Something that also shows in everything he did afterwards. Neither a sociopath or a psychopath would deal with the aftermath the way he did.

[@noxsinfox1222]

Very well put and understanding. I'm glad for your comment because you aren't plainly saying he's a straight up cold blooded killer like everyone else. You looked further into it and explained it to the rest of us. Thank you.

[@jjvalenta526]

This deserves more likes. This is very very important for people to note. While most people with autism wouldn't do soemthing violent like this, there is absolutely a link between his mental state and his actions. A I'm AuADHD but I'm very overly sensitive to emotions to the point where I over think them and overlook major signs of people trying to reassure me. His disconnect from having emotions toward his parents but crying over his mother shows that a lot of people don't understand Autism. People are saying he faked the cries when in reality he was probably thinking about how his mother sounded in distress, which caused him to be distressed. He may not have loved or been connected to his mother but he had a reaction to thinking about her crying.

[@sadiev2778]

@@noxsinfox1222 for real. They don't understand what it is like to be on the autism spectrum. All they see is black and white ''omg he left his mom to die while she was crying from pain'' like for real, can nobody see why?

[@divinecommerce3912]

Liberal word salad that does nothing to improve mental health. Just excusing evil with labels because it makes you feel more safe.

[@divinecommerce3912]

@@noxsinfox1222 there's a middle ground of not excusing the behavior with diagnoses and also seeing he was troubled.

[@alextheguardianangel]

as someone with slight autism myself, I find this case very weird. Never in my life I even thought about violence on another person in any shape or form. So seeing someone actually go through with it, fills me with dread.

[@MsPopeye65]

I do wonder if his parents were almost too supportive… it’s a very sad situation… one in which ultimately no one wins … but I do feel that this had little to do with Cameron being autistic… and maybe more to do with him being a rather spoiled and immature individual…. Who knows?… Stay safe my friend ♥️

[@1988Demien]

This is not autisim alone he have way much more goin on its clear as day

[@drtenma3744]

It depends where you fall on the spectrum. I have a cousin who can get very violent at any given moment or it can slowly build up and sadly she has injured her siblings on a few occasions.

[@mookerimungeri]

Because autism is a spectrum, perhaps you aren't in the same area of autism as he is. It's so sad he felt to act on these thoughts, but you might not ever think like this. Try not to worry too much about things like this. People are individuals and we all have our own way of thinking. Be well.

[@QyTheQTpi]

There's no need to have autism to think about hurting someone. The thought occurs to perfectly normal people, same thing with thoughts about suicide. Every person has it eventually, difference is our ability to control our actions, rationality & dealing with our emotions properly.

[@PatrickC139]

As someone with a child with severe ADHD and O.D.D with autisim characteristics , I can see alot of similarities in the way he communicates of the learning disabilities . People think that with severe ADHD/ADD it's simply an issue with concentration. No. There is also problems with connecting information, and that includes things like connecting reality even as well as cause and effect. That partly looks like what Cameron has trouble with as well. This doesn't excuse actions however I do think his mental health is alot more severe then people probably thought.

[@rosesanderson4625]

The fact that it didn't occur to him to lie to the border agents is really telling, in my opinion.

[@user-iy6ko1bz4y]

I totally agree with you.

[@Hacker_Kamyko]

I feel bad for Cameron =(

[@daisy8284]

@@Hacker_Kamyko I feel bad for his murdered parents.

[@MikeP2055]

Agreed.

[@baxtersmom279]

This young man reminds me of my son. He has been diagnosed with autism, bipolar, and ADHD. He is 23. He has a violent temper sometimes. It’s been a challenge to get him to launch from home. I love him very much. I am not going to “bag” on the parents. It is sometimes hard to parent children with these diagnoses.

[@gozer33]

This was truly heart breaking. Hearing him talk, I don't think he really knew what he was doing at the time, but he is obviously dangerous to others. Too sad.

[@mishellefire1660]

This fella is clearly not all there. So sad in many ways.

[@elizabethmcleod246]

I’d like to know if he was taking medications. They can have severe side effects and aggravate irritability or anger issues.

[@briaweea02]

Thank you, because this is also something that bothered me. What happened was horrific and unwarranted, but he clearly isn’t ok developmentally

[@gtw4546]

Reduced intellectual capacity doesn't equal reduced capacity for evil!

[@elizabethmcleod246]

@@gtw4546 It could if one becomes psychotic from taking certain meds.

[@sashakehoe1782]

It's like watching an 8 year old trying to get away with murder. All of this is so sad. He wanted independence, his parents wanted to care for him, he has no impulse control, so they end up dead. It's terrifying. He needs help, but in a very controlled environment (which is obviously what the parents wanted, too.) Just...ugh.

[@alissab4121]

i’d rather be controlled by my parents for a few years than to be controlled by prison guards for the rest of my life

[@ChiasmMarksTheSpot]

Yet another thing not thought out

[@ykjo5613]

Easy for you to say

[@JacksCreates]

@@ykjo5613 keep crying

[@andressaloiola8669]

yeah but it doesn’t even seem like they actually controlled him

[@andressaloiola8669]

yeah but it doesn’t even seem like they actually controlled him

[@heartsandtarts]

I’ve got severe ADHD and I can tell this is definitely more than just one disorder. This is a very sad story :(

[@nikkyk4839]

Same. Lack of impulse control doesn't explain what he did afterwards. I think that he definitely had some sort of mental breakdown that made him act irrationally after realizing what he did. I can understand that kind of thought process because I know what that kind of breakdown can feel like but none of us can say with certainty why he did what he did.

[@beebeelicious]

I believe that his autism is fairly significant.

[@MyPokeBox]

Yeah ADHD doesn't affect intelligence or anything I git it with an IQ in the 130's

[@paulinedocherty6541]

As much as his mental health is a case for serious mental care he is to be feared. In everyday situations he can’t be trusted to not carry out the same acts. The cruelty in letting someone bleed out in pain for hours on end negates any mental disability argument never mind someone who he regarded as mom. It’s incomprehensible

[@stone-sama7314]

its called shame, people aren't black and white, clearly your not in this field

[@poojanpatel2437]

Yes you and people agreeing with you are the reason mental health problems are getting worse and worse. Just think you are cameron and why whould you do such thing? Once you can even understand 1% you can understand how foggy and confusing his thoughts were

[@lj0727]

Exactly. The fact that he literally had no reason to kill them and he "just did it" makes him unable to be rehabbed in my opinion. How could you trust that he wouldn't do it again? Anytime in the future he is unhappy with someone is he just going to decide to stab them too? And yes the fact that he left his mother, the person he should love above all others, to bleed out and suffer in torment and betrayal for hours and hours after stabbing her multiple times is unforgivable to me.. that shows a level of coldness and uncaring that I don't think is fixable no matter how much therapy he does.

[@malaysabolehpsy]

@@lj0727 there's really only one penalty this guy deserves and it is to be sent to ADX in the US.

[@afcchamp683]

@@lj0727he had his reasons. They were just not good reasons to kill

[@teriwalden1491]

The minute he decided to lie about his mom to her brother is when one knew he knew what he did was wrong.

[@neva9657]

the thing that creeps my out the most about this case is that the apparently had no motive but was cruel enough that he let his mother die in agony the whole night... like wtf?! that's some different level vile behaviour

[@key6723]

right? and then being able to drag the bodies and hide them… the thought of dragging a body to hide let alone my own mother hurts my brain and gives me a gross gut feeling. 🤢

[@eucliduschaumeau8813]

He is the stupidest murderer I've ever seen. Pure psychopath.

[@iEATW0RLDS]

If it isn't obvious enough in the interrogation, the kid has the mentality of a child. He was terrified. Do you expect a terrified child to go back and finish the job?

[@lady_k5588]

The 911 call is just surreal! This conversation could only happen in Canada: Cameron: "I want to confess to a murder but I don't know what street I'm on" 911 Dispatcher: "Well you need to know if you want to get something buddy." Cameron: "Yeah that's true, that's true, eh?" Like, WTF??! 😳

[@sealsnoot]

There is something to be said about the power of impulse. I remember sitting on my bed thinking about un-aliving myself for at least 30 minutes, considering how I was terrified of death, and then still going through with it. Not even 5 minutes later I told my parents when the rationale of that fear and gravity of my actions hit me. (As a note, I am currently in a very good place and it's been many years since this happened. Clean of ideation for 12+ yeas now !!) We sometimes do things, stupid things, on impulse without a real conscious reason to it besides "it seemed like a good idea at the time". The human mind isn't perfect. But I guess the lesson always is that our actions and emotions aren't what makes us who we are, it's how we respond and adapt to them. Cameron knew his mother was suffering, voiced that he knew she was in pain and wanted it to stop, but didn't do anything to stop it. We can argue that his mentality isn't mature enough to grasp it, but never once did he say he was scared about not getting help because he knew he would be in trouble / didn't want to get in trouble. It wasn't until he couldn't figure out a way forward that he turned himself in, and even then when he came up with another plan - calling wolf on his father - he used it in a last ditch effort to remove himself from blame. He cleaned up, removed evidence, hid the bodies, and came up with a plan of escape. The other thing is, he doesn't show remorse for the death of his parents. He doesn't get upset when he talks about it, he only gets upset when he describes how he knew his mother was in pain. That's a visceral display of remorse, because subconsciously we react to when the people we love are in pain. I immediately think of when you have to put an animal to sleep; so many people prefer not to be there with their pet because they know they are in pain / dying, even though they love their pet. Cameron hid away, aware of what was happening to his mother. Maybe there's a disconnect between death and pain for Cameron, but there was no remorse for death, just sympathy for pain. But I definitely think that Cameron's mental state and history should have been considered in his trial, though I'm not familiar with how court proceedings go in Canada. I definitely think he deserves help and support, and hopes he's getting those in prison.

[@starrywizdom]

As a fellow "aspie", I find this case terribly disturbing. I can remember resenting my parents' love & care at Cameron's age, although I never wanted them to die -- I just kept running away. I feel like there's a lot going on inside his head that he's not aware of...

[@shakeybill82]

Asperger's aside, there is no excuse for murder

[@C4TC4T]

Same; I used to get angry and throw things, but I never wanted to hurt a person (I don’t throw things now I’ve gotten over that and deal with the anger better)

[@sarahwolfmayr2116]

agree. I think therapy and studying human relations could actually help him a lot (and might have prevented a lot).

[@DiutoAjoku]

Once I heard “nothing, eh?” I knew it had to be a CANADIAN case! So sad people still think of THE ACT OF KILLING as a solution to their anger🤦🏾‍♀️ May their souls Rest In Peace!

[@bennymoret1339]

✍🏽It's Happen Around The World. Disturbed People Are Everywhere. Not Only in Canada. I Just Saying..

[@DiutoAjoku]

@@bennymoret1339 the statement I made about Canada was only referring to the use of the slang “eh” at the end of a sentence, not the crime itself.

[@freebirddee2620]

I picked up on that straight away whilst also thinking "man, she's polite" some stereotypes just seem to be fact 😂

[@MOONSUN4Life]

Same here! It's kind of a stereotype at this point, but we do say "eh?" and "sorry" quite a bit!

[@freebirddee2620]

@@MOONSUN4Life you are definitely one of the loveliest people in existence 😊 geography 😂

[@amoreanissa1337]

As someone of a son with autism and ADHD I gotta admit this is strangely one of my fears beside fearing what would happen to him if we’re not there anymore to care for him😢 We’re doing our best to raise him right and support and protect him but his brain being wired differently we don’t know what could happen in the future. I feel sorry for the parents they were probably just being overprotective of him due to his disabilities but he took it as them smothering him. His interrogation video broke my heart because he doesn’t seem like he truly understands his actions, sad case all around.

[@colleenhanna5383]

You should win an award for the Best Background 👌 it's so soothing and calming great job thankyou

[@Rubydoomsday]

All of his thought processes and actions were so childlike. I really don’t think he could grasp how permanent the decision he made was until it was too late. This is a man who doesn’t know you need a visa to live in other countries and thought he could start a new life with the change in his mom’s purse. That’s the mentality of like a 10 year old or younger.

[@elainevankat5353]

Even a ten year old child.... knows not to kill/hurt your parents! (you sound foolish!).

[@missondo4887]

True

[@verukasault9065]

How did he get into a mechanical engineering program at university?

[@BabyKangaroo279]

@@verukasault9065 book smarts and regurgitation; autism can make you highly intelligent in these aspects but not in other things like emotional control. Plus, likely help with filling out applications. My sister is extremely talented and, I think, smarter than me. She still couldn't muster up enough common sense to complete her college application without any help, or even an apartment application.

[@amandastakeonit7402]

@@missondo4887, No it's not! You mean it's believable to you, it's not true!

[@alteridolriley]

Let's go notification squad~! Thanks for the new video Adrian!

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

You're welcome! And first comment, so it's coffee on the house for you!

[@rickispanish2283]

Hi guys!

[@alteridolriley]

@@CoffeehouseCrime haha nice! Thanks! ☕️

[@1nders1]

Morning routine engage ☕

[@jeffbrownstain]

Pfft. I don't even have notifications on. The universe just assures that I always end up here at upload.

[@giraffebecky]

I really like this background. It's cool. Love the sleeping cat that's in there sometimes. Cheers

[@elishh8173]

I love your voice, and how respectful you are to the victims! You are a wonderful young man!! Greetings from Sweden 💖

[@JaYoeNation]

Him taking about his mom slowly dying makes my stomach turn.

[@paolaviana8522]

I feel no sympathy for him

[@DisfattBidge]

Wow, this was one of the tougher confessions to watch. The way he broke down when the realization hit was heartbreaking. His crimes are inexcusable, but I agree that he really needs mental evaluation, help, and support.

[@baffledanderanged2101]

Although I feel really bad that Cameron's adoptive parents are dead 😔 I however feel bad for Cameron because of his mental health issues, he needs help and understanding while being institutionalized.

[@admiralofcuteness]

Amen to that. I doubt even he understands why he did it; he just seems so lost. Can't see him being a reoffender when two murders are already so much weight on his conscience.

[@bakenator7420]

He does not need help now. He needs to be studied so we can help others that have similar symptoms who HAVEN'T taken a life. After learning what we can from his condition he needs to be put down like the animal he is.

[@DisfattBidge]

I disagree, but that is an interesting opinion.

[@DisfattBidge]

@@Die-Angst haha no, that was in response to a reply on my post. Looks like it was removed though.

[@redhats_exit1984]

The newest crime docu channel I've added to my subscriptions. Love watching you tell these stories. Damn well done! TY!

[@RustyShackleford-]

Adrian, when you say “take care of one another” at the end your videos, it’s so reassuring and comforting. A genuine statement that shows care and concern for others. We need such supportive sentiments in these troubled times. Thanks for doing that, and I hope you’re taking care of yourself!

[@stanleys_corner]

Imagine this: You go to an orphanage, you see a small, sweet baby and you adopt it. You grow it as if you gave birth to it yourself (as it should be), just to murder you for the most trivial reason. On the day they adopted him, they did not sign adoption papers, but death sentence papers. Sad, really.

[@x77punk77x]

I found a source that stated that adoptees are 15 times more likely to murder their parents than biological children. Caveat: Not much data available, controversial, and likely needs more review & study.

[@debradowner8761]

Really makes you wonder about nature vs nuture.

[@iamV10010]

@@debradowner8761 it's both nature and nurture, working in tandem, and extremely complex. It's very rarely just one or the other.

[@dontmindme633]

@@Die-Angst dang Jesus loves you sounds snarky AF in that context. You use that often?

[@skyatollah2skyharder276]

@@Die-Angst Jesus is a fictional character.

[@candicealicia6901]

The lady officer doing this interrogation did a great job talking to him and getting him to open up.

[@genetmom4794]

I would confess anything to this interrogator. Her voice is so empathetic and calming.

[@missmelissa3573]

This is quite upsetting to hear. I was raised in Kingston and met many Ottawa residents just like that couple. They’re the type who are unconditionally kind, hard working and intelligent. They clearly adopted damaged goods in that kid. His biological mom probably did everything wrong while he was in the womb. What a nightmare. He seems to have the IQ of a 4 year old so I have no idea why they thought he could go to University. What a tragic loss and a horrible death for his mom. Completely senseless.

[@jr7845]

You caused that pain Cameron, no sympathy for a person who had everything and still did not appreciate that. Adrian does the best, respectful, caring videos, focusing on the victims and not the perpetrator. The case of Maura Murray is still unsolved 18 years on, I'd love Adrian to research that case

[@nickmotsarsky4382]

Do you think he's reading this or something?

[@mathiasb2616]

Lmao. This comment is totally disconnected. It's like you think he even had the ability to understand what his parents were doing let alone appreciate it. He's a murderer for sure who deserves to be in prison for life. But there is diminished capacity here. Obviously. Unless he's faking it. Which I doubt since it's been documented for years that he's autistic. This case is an interesting one for sure. But there is no way you can apply normal thinking and social understanding to him. He isn't an intelligent person. Emotionally or logically.

[@Jarvis_2077]

@@nickmotsarsky4382 he actually does

[@amandastakeonit7402]

I feel that in this case Adrian is definitely sympathizing with Cameron.

[@MentokTheMindTaker]

How can you not sympathise with him? He was autistic, had ADD and he was adopted which can lead to many other issues. Ontop of that his parents were controlling, not even allowing him to get a job or to move out on his own

[@julielumsden5184]

As a Canadian I get frustrated by our weak justice system. 20 years is nothing for two lives taken.

[@dizzylilthing]

We can't be harsh on murder, do you know how many children died in the residential schools? If the government suddenly decided that murder was a crime we needed to punish harsher, Canada would be in big trouble. It's pathetic and revolting

[@peeron6829]

@@dizzylilthing i dont understand :(

[@peeron6829]

@@dizzylilthing thank you very much for explaining. This is awful

[@dizzylilthing]

@@peeron6829 it is. but it's important to know there are a lot of organizations that are dedicated to helping overcome the difficulties imposed by this. Activist groups are working to hold the government to making things right and provide help to those in need. the world is a cold place but we can work to make things better

[@CidVeldoril]

He has no support structure or anything when he comes out. In his position, it does not matter if he gets 20 years or 200. In fact, he should hope for the (likely) outcome that if he is indeed released, it will be into the custody of a mental institution.

[@anyas.2211]

Absolutely love your channel en personality. Thank you for posting regularly and calling us "your friends" 😊👌

[@arlettejaramillo3656]

The narration of this story was so well approached. Thanks for your discretion and research Adrian! Top quality videos.

[@piratesfan123]

Everything he did AFTER murdering his mother and father, listening to his mother die in pain and slandering his father with disgusting false allegations proves imo that Cameron is a danger and cold-hearted

[@jordanford9320]

He's not cold-hearted He's autistic. I'm not condoning his actions but I'm married to an autistic woman and I have two autistic children and I can tell you a lot of times and a lot of people that I've met and I've met a lot of people in my walk of life on the spectrum and me myself. I have ADHD so I can somewhat understand his struggles as well. But you don't understand the empathy aspect. I have a hard time with it. My wife is more empathetic than I am. However, it's a struggle because you don't understand it. It's hard to explain and I don't want to come across as defending him. However, understanding and defending are two different things and trying to understand where someone is coming from is very important in a case like this because you can't put labels on him like cold-hearted because you're using a frame of reference of a normal neurological function when this person does not have the same wavelengths he is neurotypical so his brain is wired differently so you have to approach the situation differently. I'm sorry for rambling and I really don't want to come across as defending but I do know that my wife gets labeled as cold and uncaring and so do both of my children and so do I when it's not the case. We really do care. We just don't know how to pick up on certain cues and we're constantly trying. And I'm not saying Cameron was. I'm just trying to spread the word that not everyone like him is cold-hearted and it's not necessarily being cold-hearted that made him do this. He could have just had a really bad sensory meltdown and he hyperfixated on not having control and it led to this.

[@sadiev2778]

I disagree on the cold-hearted part. Listening to his mom moaning in pain made him feel guilt to the point he did not want to hear her anymore. He went to his bedroom BECAUSE he did not want to hear her die, knowing she was in pain and he caused it. It was his safe space. As for the allegations, it was an attempt at self-preservation. I'm by no means saying what he did was not awful. I just think he is misunderstood, and that his sentence is not going to help him rehabilitate or deal with his mental issues. I hope he gets the psychological help he needs. He is not cold-hearted, just someone with autism who made a terrible mistake and will have to deal with the consequences for the rest of his life.

[@britbrat1127]

@@sadiev2778 Naw. He’s where he’s supposed to be. They give mental health services in there, they have a whole block dedicated to mentally unwell/disabled criminals. Doctors on call, medication, and therapy. You’re correct in that he will deal with this for the rest of his life. Y’all are too quick to call people crazy, I work with autistic children and adults as a paraeducator and IHSS caregiver/provider. I started volunteering at 14 and I’m now 22. Cameron covered up his actions, which in the court of law, legally, means he cannot be sentenced as mentally ill. Someone truly disturbed wouldn’t go through the trouble of lying and covering it up. If you don’t believe me, research for yourself. He was sentenced fairly, period.

[@britbrat1127]

Maybe he’s not cold-hearted but he definitely knew better. So now he’s in jail.

[@LustraGaming]

OR he was panicking and decided he had to get out of there not having to face the consequences of his actions. I have possible autism too, combined with antisocial personality disorder. I Used to have violent outbursts and I remember always wanting to find a way out of being responsible for the results that those outbursts caused. At that moment you don't feel in control as someone else is taking over and you try and deflect every blame because it was out of your control. Being antisocial also doesn't make you aware of how hurtful your comments can be and I see that same pattern in his defense tactics.

[@MuseVT]

Monday and Thursday are easily my favorite days of the week 😩 You’re absolutely my favorite true crime channel, the way you present and narrate cases is perfect.

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you!

[@AkashSharma-sy7gm]

Yea but he doesn’t pick the cases where psycho women are the perp. Maybe he doesn’t care what women do or hate his own kind. Can’t really wrap my head around it.

[@MuseVT]

@@AkashSharma-sy7gm He literally covered the Stacey Mitchell case last week. Y’know, the woman murdered by 2 psychotic women? But go off I guess.

[@MuseVT]

@@AkashSharma-sy7gm Also - it’s almost like there’s 7x more male murderers than there are female 💀 Just say you hate women or something idk

[@Karolina-vi2wt]

@@AkashSharma-sy7gm There’s literally a video from two weeks ago with two women being the perpetrators. And then some other one scroll away. “Can’t wrap my head around this” - well…I don’t know what to tell you, buddy. Learn to scroll? Plus: “In 2020, there were 8,977 murder offenders in the United States who were male, which is almost seven times the number of female murder offenders in the same year.”

[@ayelmillan12]

This is so heart breaking. 😭Thank you for the research. You have a very compassionate voice.

[@Sunchild_26]

That interrogation was top notch perfect for Cameron who had special needs ❤️👌🏼

[@Chris-vl1fn]

This is truly heartbreaking. Dave and Merryl gave everything they had to give him the best chance in life. Mental illness or not, what he did to them was very cold-blooded, especially the way he left his mom still alive to die an agonizing death.

[@nanisarchive2042]

Just to clarify, ASD and ADHD are not a mental Illness. Murdering someone like this however does make one mentally ill in my opinion

[@sidneygreenglass106]

He could have moved out. Even severely disabled people can live independently or in a group setting. He knew what he was doing. He's evil.

[@ShrandaM]

He knew exactly what he was doing. This is so sad and ruthless on Cameron’s behave.

[@TheSilnat]

This case hit hard on me I'm an adopted child that have elderly parents. My mom always keeps an eagle eye on me and how I'm doing financially it's upsetting but I'm always grateful for them to give me a love and good care. He's a disgrace of everything an adopted kid with a good environment have to be grateful for.

[@Kiefsti]

My dream is to adopt, and people like this guy will never change my mind 💜

[@oongieboongie]

He's not a disgrace. Free will doesn't exist and some people just aren't cut out for modern society and anyone's success is 100% luck based on their genetics.

[@dontmindme633]

@@Kiefsti more parents are killed by their bio kids than by adopted kids, if that helps.

[@Kiefsti]

@@dontmindme633 Surprisingly, yes 😅

[@adoria5]

Just found your channel last night, and this is about the 6th video I've watched so far. Great work my friend, so glad I found this channel.

[@jbhamm02]

You get better and better! You narration is on point and your content is top notch. Wishing you all the success in the world.

[@theycrimetoo4782]

this is the case that made me want to pursue a degree in criminology, graduating in one year thankfully

[@mod91Kauai]

Congratulations on following and fulfilling your dreams.

[@unmemorablehero]

Good luck 👍

[@theycrimetoo4782]

@@mod91Kauai thank you !

[@theycrimetoo4782]

@@unmemorablehero thanks !

[@joanfraser6500]

I think you're awesome Adrian. 😊 You put a lot of research into telling these events. Thank you from a Canadian fan. 😊

[@cdmurphy949]

Another well told story, I love that it's snowing outside the window you're speaking in front of.

[@dutchie3226]

I could never understand how someone who grew up having everything they could ever ask for could resent their parents to the point where they'd feel the need to kill them.

[@VioletJoy]

Human psychology is multidimensional. It's likely that Cameron was "spoiled" and did not have appropriate rules and consequences, much like Chandler Halderson. I'm not saying that's definitely what happened, but it's likely the case. It's really not fair to compare the way we think to someone else as we're all different.

[@pisswash6244]

Well he had other issues that contribute but lets just ignore them right? *rolls eyes at loser*

[@erikm8372]

Ummm, maybe because he has mental disorders, both treated and undiagnosed? That’s how it happens. Maybe being adopted was harder for him than we realize, and this also sadly made it easier for him to kill…less of a connection, not related, etc. He might’ve felt they had no right to control him, since he was 22 and adopted on top of it.

[@davidlang1125]

You’re judging him by normal standards when in fact his mentality is vastly different. His irrationally expected to start a new life with change from his mother’s purse; he didn’t know about immigration laws; he was naive to a very profound degree. He alluded to being frustrated by being told what to do all the time, which isn’t surprising given how ineffectual he was throughout his life. I guess his parents didn’t appreciate the importance of preserving his autonomy and agency.

[@UmatsuObossa]

Children who are given too much get an inflated sense of how important they are. They start to feel that their parents aren't generous but instead that they have a RIGHT to those things they want. It becomes so bad they if all their whims don't get met, they become violent because they've never actually learned how to accept not getting what they want.

[@_Chessa_]

I’ve met an individual quite like Cameron before. He was also on the autistic spectrum, as I am too. I have Aspergers and ADHD. We met in my special Ed class. He told me he wanted to kill both his parents constantly because he didn’t like cleaning up his room or studying or anything they wanted him to do, and he did tell me constantly during break. I didn’t realize to tell anyone back then. I then told him that’s really stupid and you should just leave instead of killing them because you can’t get away with it. And he sort of agreed but still hated and stopped telling me he wanted them dead. He brought a knife to school and showed me it. And me being an idiot told him to hide it in a tree because he could get in trouble. He just put it in his shoe. I remember that so vividly. he really really liked music and trains and plains mostly video games. He Couldn’t write, but could read better than I could on many big words. But we both couldn’t do math. He stopped going to the school the next year I was in that school. The person in the video reminds me of him. But I know He isn’t him, just brought back those sad memories and wanted to share them here. the name is lost because I have trouble with remembering names. Apologies for that and apologies for this comment if it’s too much. I’m hoping the kid I met grew up better though.. he was really smart things, but hated doing things people told him in a very bad way and hoping he got that in control.

[@chlorophyll6154]

Are you okay?? Do people with ADHD were prone to violence without any morbid reason

[@eyecon4587]

Adrian. I love your background!! So very relaxing. Thank you for your research and presentation!!

[@rate6207]

Adrian , love the presentation style of all these cases. Great work

[@juanitarichards1074]

Cameron doesn't sound too bright and I think his parents ambitions for him were a vast over reach. He was never going to be able to live up to their expectations. I'd have let him get a part time job and given him a bit of independence. In time he may have come to realize he was better off at home.

[@louellacharlton4425]

Yes I thought this as well. They didn't seem to realize that he needed that little bit of independence. So sad that no one thought to ask for help in the decision making. How was it that he did not have a therapist or councilor to address this with?

[@robertajabour3592]

Exactly.

[@Mark-mu4pj]

Yeah i agree

[@tearainey1]

I think it's easy for parents to have blinders on when it comes to their child's potential. They had unending love for their son and wanted him to become wealthy, independent, and successful so that once they had passed they could know he was well on his own. He probably functioned well enough that they were able to convince themselves that with some effort, he could achieve their desires for him when in reality his mind just wasn't capable of it.

[@amandastakeonit7402]

This comment shows that you are not familiar with people that have autism.

[@joycewible8816]

Your empathy and care with these stories is so beautiful. I really appreciate how you compassionately talk about these horrible crimes (and how you ALWAYS aim for good pronunciation with foreign names)

[@sandysizemore501]

Very much so

[@sple3ns]

This is why he is the only true crime commentary channels i would watch, not tha any other channels dont tick any of these traits, but, Coffeehousecrime has more emotion and feels more down to earth imo. Watever Adrian is doing, it most definitely is something good.

[@veenoir1991]

@@sple3ns not to mention his edits are awesome, his audio is bad ass. He does really good work

[@greengoblin876]

Adrian only learns the correct pronunciations so he can barter and negotiate the best price for his " Coffebeans" at the " markets " all around the world.

[@MT-oi2ty]

That’s how he thanked them for taking him out of the streets and giving him a family? What a disgusting evil monster!

[@morbidgull8922]

To be fair it’s hard to realize how hard of a life it can be when you have zero control over it. Personally speaking I would rather be homeless without a family and in control, vs being a clone of a parent and having no control over anything that happens around me.

[@Jenacide]

@@morbidgull8922 And he could have gone and been homeless literally any time he wanted. Plenty of homeless are mentally ill or have disabilities, many are teens younger than him. Even if it's not a fun option there were other options that literally millions of people have taken, he chose to murder instead.

[@lovefamilyhomegarden8664]

Love this channel!

[@gabbyvg.9067]

Imagine being given EVERYTHING you could possibly want and need,.... And it is STILL,... ....not enough.

[@tiffanybrown368]

Kids that are given access to resources usually don’t know how to earn it. They feel entitled. Entitled kids become entitled adults.

[@misssamanthasinister2757]

Exactly!!!After watching the Chandler Halderson case, and the Joel Guy Jr. case it shows it doesn't matter how much money or love you are given from a family cause some people are just born EVIL!

[@striderstache99]

They deprived him of his independence. Does not excuse his actions. But you can see with your own eyes this man is not functioning well. That does not mean you keep him sheltered for most of his youth. I feel for him, I feel for his parents, and his parents family. No one wins here.

[@gabbyvg.9067]

@@striderstache99 I don't recall seeing any portion where he was being restrained. And EVEN IF,... does that then equal KILLING THEM? I think your view is about as twisted as his. This is an EASY case of being SPOILED!!! As The Colonel (my dad) told Me and my sister's, YOU WANT INDEPENDENCE? MOVE OUT! But as long as you're under MY ROOF, It's MY RULES." I wish one of my siblings would've even LOOKED at one of my parents in a threatening way!

[@duma227]

Having been a child who was basically treated like Cameron and I also have ADHD - his parents made mistakes, but of course they loved him and did their best for him. They just didn’t really understand the severity of his mental health issues or reach out perhaps when they should have to learn how to deal with him to really help him grow. My parents were much the same - well intentioned, but they didn’t give me what I really needed, they just thought that giving me what I wanted, protecting me from the world and letting me “figure it out” would lead to me growing up to be a normal, well-adjusted adult. It didn’t - I’ve always struggled to find direction or be able to think much ahead. I’m nowhere near as severe with my ADHD as Cameron - I’ve always been very empathetic and struggled to not be a people pleaser. What I majorly lack due to my coddled upbringing is self confidence and discipline. Kids need discipline and to be held accountable to things and to be allowed to make mistakes and learn from them without a parent stepping in to take over. Helicopter parenting is very common and quite understandable in many ways - but a really good parent knows when to be tough for the kid’s own good. The results of coddling kids can be mild or severe - mixed with the wrong underlying psychology (Cameron seems more severely autistic than they say - and also narcissistic) - it can be very dangerous.

[@grandiosa86]

So disturbing this Cameron, seen the case before, but looking forward for your take on it as well. Thanks for these uploads!

[@catlady5359]

My nephew has brain damage from a beating by his biological father when he was a baby. He really struggles with symptoms very similar to autism - processing information, communicating his thoughts (difficulty connecting thoughts with words) and emotional regulation among other things. He was adopted with his brother by my sister and her husband. It is really difficult to find effective support with learning, communication and job training. These parents probably tried to get him the appropriate support, but may have struggled to find it. They also may not have appreciated the extent of his struggles and expected more than he could actually do. The whole killing was odd because he had a knife, but went out and got a stake to bring in to stab his mom. He then didn’t know what to do about his mom being in pain and was distressed by it, but didn’t think to stab her again to kill her. It really seems as though he made a rash childish decision and then didn’t know how to deal with the reality of the consequences. He moved the bodies so that no relatives would see them dead. He didn’t try to access bank accounts or credit cards, but just took the cash he could find. He almost had magical thinking in his plan to go to New York to live. It seems like he called the police because he didn’t know what to do since his plan wasn’t working. He seems utterly clueless about how to get along in life, so jail may actually feel safe to him in the end. I’m not sure that the family needs to fear him; it seems like he could be dangerous to anyone if he acts impulsively out of frustration. That’s the challenge for the system, but Canada is pretty lenient overall so I’m sure he’ll be released. Hopefully he’ll have the proper support when he is. 😬

[@LindaSmith-vq1br]

I live in Ottawa and vividly remember this case. It was tragic. Ottawa is a great place to live and in its heart it is still a small town and reacts accordingly. The case brought out a huge amount of grief in the community. There was a fair amount of compassion for Cameron despite the anger and grief. Thank you for covering this case.

[@sbsandra]

Imagine adopting a kid, centering your life around them, and they end up killing you.

[@niccalee]

This is honestly one of the saddest cases.

[@Peace-tk3gr]

He kept saying how much it bothered him that his mother was in pain, and that there was nothing he could do about that. Bull. He could have called a neighbour for help or dialled 911. So, no sympathy from me for this heartless sad tw*t. It is gross, just gross.

[@n-as1012]

yeh, he only thinks he himself the entire time.

[@yolizen9980]

Yes. It bothered him that she didn’t die fast enough. Her groans were annoying him.

[@Kayawtiku]

Even more morbidly, he could have just ended her suffering himself. 🤷 Either way there was no reason for her to suffer for as long as she did.

[@erikm8372]

The interrogator…wow. Theresa loves her job, and the job loves her. Clearly, she’s amazing. I hope she knows that. Or at least I hope she’s told that from time to time.

[@termacd]

I went to high school with Theresa. She has always been amazing.

[@absolutnadia]

Good for you

[@karanfield4229]

He sounds very child like on the initial 911 call. Gosh it's very sad all round. My heart breaks when he cries in the interview. Omg! RIP to his poor parents.🙏🌟

[@beeeeeeeee7951]

I’m Canadian and this case left us speechless! Having a mental disorder is not an excuse to k!ll people🤡🎈🚩

[@ritadonnelly8820]

How do u know how the brain works mental health is a terrible disease

[@beeeeeeeee7951]

@@Kansatsusha355 bro🤣🤣🤣🤣 it’s the only way to stop the tears for these innocent sweethearts.

[@Twilight24682]

I agree i hope he rots in jail

[@AABB-bm9kk]

@@Kansatsusha355 First, let me point out she clearly stated she is Canadian, So why the dissing of Americans ? Second, why the dissing of Americans anyways ? Like who the hell are you ? And Lastly, to answer that last question- You think you are the “CEO of Sex “? More like the CEO of Sucks.

[@lindsaycameron04]

Just a quick correction for anyone interested. I’m Canadian and just happened to notice when he was covering this story that it was said that we don’t require a visa if we are just visiting the United States. While this is half true, because not too many years ago Canadians could visit with simply identification and a birth certificate. In more recent years up to today, there is much tighter control for both Canadians and Americans looking to cross the border. You MUST have a valid and current dated passport! Just in case any of you crazy cats were ever looking to make a run for it.. it’s not as easy as you think! And CBSA is no joke, and has the highest authority above all other policing agencies in Canada!

[@KathyHussey063]

thanks good to know, "eh"?? lol

[@rolandm9750]

It is true though, you *don't* need a visa for casual travel. This guy made the "mistake" of telling them he was trying to go there to live, not that he was just going for a visit. Also it's not CBSA to worry about crossing into the US, it's CBP. They are no joke either but it's pretty hit or miss how concerned they are or how many questions they ask. They too can grill you, pull you in for inspection, further checks, etc.; but just the same they can basically just accept that you're going for a vacation or whatever you tell them, and off you go. Of course that's if one tells them it's just a visit, again this guy declared he's gonna live there so they were obviously like, "uh no you can't do that" and turned him around.

[@Rosterized]

@@acidheadzzz this is true for many countries, lot of people have a misconception in their heads that every inch of every border is littered with guards or something 😂

[@Vazo999]

A passport, not a visa

[@jasmine0354]

Your studio set is really warm and welcoming.

[@lokicarter6394]

just wanted to say..your channels is both entertaining, and informative. ty for always considering the feelings of all involved and hug the kitty for me :) its gorgous!

[@sharonmickey4566]

Any child would have been lucky to have these parents... :(.....

[@raynadixson8010]

They adopt him and love him like he was their flesh and blood giving him everything he could want. And this is his way of showing his love and gratitude to them, to slaughter them for really no reason. He was an adult he could of left. He didn’t want to work he wanted to do what he wanted, which was be lazy and taken care of.

[@blackfox658]

Hey Adrian if you are reading this i have watched a lot of crime cases but the way you narrate,the background sounds including the title music really keeps me up there. Hope u reply Adrian. Appreciate your effort. Have a nice coffee after your video

[@CoffeehouseCrime]

Thank you, I appreciate that! 🙏

[@kiwimema4300]

God, adopting a child is like a lucky dip. Imagine getting one like that, frightening

[@sophiecarpenter4703]

I live in Ottawa and had no idea this case took place here! I don't even remember the case in the news or anything...

[@tiedyebritt3841]

"It appears cameron requires psychological evaluation and support more than he deserves to be feared" this is why i love listening to your takes on fragile cases, you have empathy that is very much admired.

[@ddjsoyenby]

yeah, what he did is awful, but he clearly needed help.

[@judahtheurer8167]

Yeah this sounds like a psychotic break. I think he does love them but he is just broken.

[@beevie4081]

Those aren't mutually exclusive though. He needs help and to be feared, because he is highly unpredictable and violent. I get why the family is afraid.

[@RawOlympia]

He killed and that is scary.

[@billciari5040]

Hope he moves into your neighborhood when he’s released.

[@hanb8737]

It’s very concerning that he will be released. I highly doubt they’ll teach him any life skills while locked up.

[@donnataylor-walton2864]

I admire your approach to these subjects, Adrian. It's all too easy to say he's just a cold-blooded killer who deserves to rot. He is a killer, yes, but if you closed your eyes when he was being interviewed, that could have been a child sitting there. His whole way of thinking was very child-like. I had tears in my eyes when I saw the apparent hurt of knowing his mum lay in pain for so long It's just heartbreaking for all involved. My thoughts are with the family ❤️

[@clairetomkyns175]

An one needs to understand autism to understand his actions.

[@AnthonyJ504]

Yet he knew enough to contemplate the choice, commit to the acts, leave his mom to suffer for hours, attempt to dispose of evidence, hid the bodies, drive a car to a train station, book a train ticket and take the train and plan a new life in the US. Even most children know right from wrong. He did as well. The lie about the sexual abuse because he knew he would lose was just more evidence of him trying to avoid the consequences of his actions.

[@HigureKyofu]

i just randomly chose this video of urs and never realized this is close to home. Im in Ottawa but this is my first time hearing this. it’s heartbreaking to see those parents died just like that. 😢

[@TheUniqueHistoryChannel777]

It seems like the parents were in some sort of denial that he probably had a mental illness. I think because they were older they probably thought he wouldn’t ever get violent with them. A lot of parents think this, they don’t see the signs with their kids and just let get worse and worse. It might have because they were older. Some older people don’t believe in mental illnesses and thus don’t see the signs. I feel so bad for his parents and yet he did nothing for his dieing mother , he could of saved her. Extremely sick.

[@whyjnot420]

Just something else to point out. Unless someone actively keeps up with the field of mental health, it is very easy to simply not know newer information on a given subject. Never underestimate just how prevalent this is in any field that is constantly evolving at a decent pace.

[@firenze5555]

Your comment smacks of victim blaming. It's not their fault that they adopted a defective psychopath. If they did tough love and kicked him out, he would have killed them, too. They were in a nightmare situation.

[@just__jess2]

Agreed! 💯

[@yubeltiger7616]

@@firenze5555 it's not victim blaming to make a observation...I'm on the spectrum I know right from wrong, but I've had my days were I get overwhelmed and panic and lash out that's why it's important to constantly go to therapy. Yes even people who are high functioning are prone to becoming easily overwhelmed and panic attacks.

[@sbfairy]

@@yubeltiger7616 I think Firenze55 is referring to the fact that the OP keeps saying the victim’s age made them blind to their son’s issues. I agree with Firenze55. The parent’s age does not make them gullible. In fact they seem to have been pretty aware of his issues. No matter how aware you are, no parent expects to be killed by their child.

[@alexjayyy5811]

It's a sad situation, I can't believe he accused his father of sexual abuse, Thats a horrible thing to accuse anyone of, dead or alive when it's not true

[@wytsewolf]

Ive seen the interrogation months ago. I'm glad you covered it. Ive been wanting more context ever since i saw that intereogation