Collecting Addicts Episode 48: Neil Buys an Audi, Winter Drives & Rear Wipers!

This week on Collecting Addicts the panel share their favourite winter drives, their opinions on rear wipers, how often they believe a car should be serviced and more!
Sit back, relax and enjoy episode 48 of Collecting Addicts!
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(00:00) Intro
(01:13) Rear wipers
(17:25) This week in cars
(45:41) Car servicing frequency
(58:43) Winter drive
(01:12:26) Two car garage
(01:22:16) Driving Tunes
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This eclectic bunch of car addicts gather online weekly to discuss all things automotive, from the minutiae of best gloveboxes to the latest happenings in top-tier motorsport.
They answer burning questions from listeners, debate the best and worst from the car world over the decades, and make time for regular features including ‘Two Car Garage’ and ‘Driving Tunes’.
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[@Sanjayyy981]

Neil Clifford over the past year has become my idol... I hope to meet you at a car meet soon sir!

[@milksterb]

I love how he tells it how it is and isn’t afraid to give his opinion but he has such a positive outlook. Love the guy!

[@natldn5578]

I’m strangely drawn to hats and glasses, myself now 😂

[@richardfittonperkins1926]

How many times do I have to shout, “Toyota Camry Estate?” Best twin rear wipers ever!

[@classicraceruk1337]

Forever because nobody else cares

[@Soarin8]

It is pre-recorded

[@ajprice]

Just been watching the wipers part, and yes, Camry estate! 👍

[@richardfittonperkins1926]

@@Soarin8 Yes, I know. :)

[@pereldh5741]

I think its the only one?!

[@ovisatma]

Why can't this be the new Top Gear presenter structure. I think these guys have so much chemistry together, I could listen to them for days talk about anything.

[@jimosborn3411]

Chris Harris, Jonny Smith, and Alex Kirsten. Presenting and road testing. Guest appearances from Chris Cooper, maybe Jethro Bov.. and Taylor Hetherington for some dodgey car dealing antics. Written by Richard Porter, and Manish Panday. Directed by Neil Carey. Initially bankrolled by Neil Clifford, Edward Lovett. I'm sure Luca and Bernie have some spare cash needing to put towards a project. Not needing to be worried by production organisations...especially lefty woke ones.. Go on adventures in wonderful cars. Challenges, projects, barn finds, road trips, Pink or Brown...And of course have some fun and games with little shit boxes. First episode.. GT cars from the 90s. Vantages, Ferrari 456 Manuels, Sultan spec SL73. Of course Manish can keep the 456 Manuel after filming. :D. Ditch the EVs because even the big car manufacturers are starting the admit they're not financial viable without Gov subsidies. Have fun.

[@muthukumaranc]

Best podcast ever. never want it to end. Don't hesitate to make them longer.

[@BraddPaisley]

Investing in a luxury supercar like a Lamborghini can be an exciting but intricate financial decision. The value of these cars can appreciate over time, making them potential assets. However, maintenance costs and depreciation should be considered.

[@LSBContractingLLC]

I couldn't agree more. In my case, I've been eyeing a Lamborghini Aventador as a passion investment. With my current financial standing, I'm contemplating whether it's a wise move. Any advice on how to approach this decision?

[@LSBContractingLLC]

That sounds like an incredible choice! I'm intrigued as well and considering a similar move. Perhaps we should seek advice from a specialist in luxury car investments. Do you have any recommendations?

[@RaphaelSafr]

It's a pleasure to share insights. "Chris Ryan Stewart" has been instrumental in helping me understand the nuances of luxury car investments. I hope they can guide you all as well. Let's reconvene after our consultations and compare notes!

[@BendyChoy]

Thank you for the information. I conducted my own research and your advisor appears to be highly skilled and knowledgeable. I've sent him an email and arranged a phone call. His expertise is impressive, and I'm eagerly anticipating our conversation.

[@jeremyrigden9200]

We are both in our seventies and loved the film, plus on the way out there was an elderly couple, sitting next to us, and when asked if he had enjoyed the film, he answered he was at the race with his father, and remembered it fondly.

[@1REDARROWS]

Mini Clubman had a rear wiper for each rear door.

[@davidopresto94]

Thank you!! I was screaming at my phone the entire time!

[@still1bill]

Best rear wiper … Waitrose Ultra Soft and great value in a nine pack

[@ChrisFEJackson]

I just don't think these can ever get better when watching every week and yet you still managed it today,. Brilliant thank you!!

[@nozwaldthevast]

An ex-VW employee once told me, Japanese cars were designed to last for 500k miles regardless of how they are looked after. German cars are designed to last for 400k miles as long as you follow the instructions. Britain is obsessed with changing cars after 100k miles because of BL ....

[@Andy_Holbrook332]

They have been so good BUT this episode has been the best to date. So natural, intelligent, thought provoking, so so good. I feel you are my pals, which is completely irrational!!!! Keep going guys, just brilliant.

[@TP-3000]

God I love this podcast. Thanks chaps

[@riaanbresler2888]

How about the Lancia 1960 Flaminia that has 2 rear window wipers outside but what was even more interesting is the 2 internal rear window wipers to wipe off internal condensation on the rear window. So four wipers is the most impressive way to clean the rear window.

[@danielnewman248]

Mid 90’s Camry wagon had 2 rear wipers, jeez I’m a sado for remembering that!

[@waters1801]

the greatest podcast ever

[@chrisfilmsstuff4666]

My 5 year old daughter was absolutely made up after meeting a couple of you on Sunday. She took her TWAT sunglasses to school which was a little frowned upon but never mind! Thank you for taking your time to make her feel special!

[@steffandavies1332]

Gotta love the NC finger point👉👉😂

[@Richard_Turner]

Camry estate and a few other Toyoya estates came with twin rear wipers .. call themselves addicts 🤣🤣 they need Ian from Hubnut on rear wipers.. perhaps best not mention Camrys to hlm though!

[@geelgeel93]

@ChrisHarris: Will the podcast with Marino Franchitti about his involvement in the Ferrari movie be published as a CollectingCars podcast? And on a general note: a huge thanks to the 5 Addicts for giving us so much enjoyment (times 48 and counting)!

[@kiwi335d]

Thanks gentlemen for another epic Podcast for us Gear Heads. I hope you realize that for a good number of us, “your podcast is LIFE, everything else is just waiting” To quote a famous Steve McQueen comment to his wife regarding his love of going to the track to race on a weekend. Looking forward to next week’s edition!

[@maddie34778]

What a great one! Thanks! 👍

[@gordonsimpson3235]

The trend for post box shaped windows in cars today (low roof lines), has rendered rear wipers ineffective. The blade can only be about 5 inches long, and can therefore wipe a tiny proportion of the screen. Personally, I love rear wipers, My ML wipes the scree very well, and automatically wipes when I reverse when I have my windscreen wipers on....this is truly useful, as is the dipping passenger door mirror when reversing....practical items. I always replace all three of my wiper blades annually when the frosts finish, so I have never experienced Neil's issue of non-working rear wipers.

[@RobEvans-xd2qv]

Totally agree about the early starts. I used to make sure I was in mid Wales (from Cardiff) Elan Valley in my Lotus well before 9am. Have your fun then head home quietly when the others are only just heading out. Ps for Neil nice stop off for trip to mid Wales is the Honey Cafe at Talgarth. Coast destinations in Mid Wales would be Aberaeron (Hotel on front for food) or lovely New Quay. We once drove from home near Cardiff to the hotel just for breakfast before then heading to Saundersfoot for a weekend break (would have only taken us 1.5hrs down the M4 but took the long route and far better roads…as you do).

[@SR-007]

Brilliant as always!

[@johnslater2488]

Early Lancia Flaminia Sedans had twin rear window wipers.

[@indiebekonn]

Absolutely! First one that came to mind

[@DimitarStanev]

Actually 4. 2 on the outside and 2 on the inside of the window

[@davidthegolfer]

Every January the Porsche club take over the whole of Port Merion for a weekend it’s called Porsche Merion for the weekend. Brilliant. Cone next year Neil plus any other Addicts.

[@SimonOldfield-es4ev]

The podcasts just get better and better. I want to go on all the suggested winter day drives, loved the rubbish about rear wipers, and just adored the music selections, but was not sure, like the others, why Mr Lovett told us all about his Sunday lunch trip to Mayfair. Fantastic.

[@willywillywillywillywilly]

The early 90s(?) USDM Toyota Camry wagon had two full-size rear wipers!

[@BV-co7hy]

I lived in middle wales near Churchstoke but had family in Wiltshire One of the best driving routes I’ve used was ; come of the M5 at Worcester north and take A499 to Ombersley then left to Abberley then Right to Clows top and on to Cleobury Mortimer, on to Ludlow via clee hill . I used to drive it in an Audi RS4 B7 saloon .. wicked fun ! ✌️

[@tantive4]

Know that road well, going to Snowdonia for weekends + though I only had a 1.3 Fiesta to do it in

[@russdyer72]

The highlight of my week!

[@WAFFLNATORE]

I have a 1991 Toyota Sprinter Trueno Gt Apex 20v (the best jdm car to ever be produced in my humbe opinion) has the best rear wiper, however you hardly ever need to use it. The aerodynamics of the car keep the rear window dry. And it's easy to use, just twist the wiper stalk.

[@user-vr5cm9vy7r]

Absolute fantastic drivel

[@albertperks3476]

Neil Clifford, Agree Uniball all the way (Purple ink) which I've used for the past 21 years. I have secret stash as I always worry that they'll stop producing the purple ink.

[@albertperks3476]

A good winter drive is from York to Whitby via A64 and A169 (over Fylingdales) great views across the North York Moors. Fish & Chips in Whitby and a pleasant drive home.

[@m.m8760]

Chris, can you please continue to share your Lancia dramas on KZbin. Also, continue picking up spanners. It's funny.

[@royd72]

How very apt, early start this morning with the boys for a little North Wales blip around Snowdonia After departing for home I pressed play on the podcast for my weekly automotive content fix Loved the drive chat and when Neil and Chris talked so passionately about North Wales I was very much in the moment So much so when it ended I played Grace Jones, ELO and Kate Bush, apologies to Manish the song that sounded more like a part number went over my head Great work as per usual lads, been here since day one and love each episode more as the weeks, months and years go by x

[@kennymcallister2523]

Brilliant as ever guys and mr Lovett nailed the 2 car garage 😜

[@mattylf1]

Agree with Chris about driving to Portsmouth in the 90's, much more a pleasurable experience than it is now. The Devils punch bowl was a pain for traffic, but in the early morning had some lovely views. Fort Widley is next to Micks Monster burgers, with Fort Nelson further along Portsdown hill going towards Fareham.

[@Gawain7826]

My MINI Clubman has dual wipers in the back, because it has the barn doors.

[@cerbie70]

It's so hard to find a road to enjoy free flowing driving (not treating it like a race track as some idiots do). Manish said about passing through Headington, where I live, to get to the Cotswolds, but hit traffic and the road restrictions for safety, and then you feel like the kids walking the treadmill in 'another brick in the wall'.

[@ia6718]

Best podcast ever imperfectly perfect with the Awsome 5

[@PakdbyCellpak]

Re rear windscreen wipers: I used to daily a Lancia Delta Intergrale Evo 1, with the rear roof spoiler set at almost a right angle to the roof line, obviously the only way to run it, in wet conditions the water being sucked up off the road behind the car was such was such massive cloud that the puny rear windscreen wiper had no chance of creating any rear visibility. Also other drivers running behind would be swamped in a huge rooster tail of spray 😙🚗💦💦💦💦

[@PetrolHead1]

I look forward to seeing what hat will adorn Mr Clifford’s head every week.

[@brembopollypor9965]

Ships have the fast spinning glas (?) disk flush with the bridge’s window, throwing off all the (salty!) sea water. How about a couple of those on the read window of your car?

[@Speedscholars]

Audi 200 tuner could of been GTI Engineering and those wheels are likely to be ‘ATS style 22’ wheels. Definitely not Zenders. Car and wheel addict reporting for duty 😂. Great episode chaps

[@widget3]

Rear Wiper trivia - Land Rover Discovery 2 has synchronised front and rear intermittent wipers. Genius!

[@bentyson5168]

I've just purchased a 911 with a rear wiper and it's ...so cool, so gorgeous. The rear wiper completes the retro 930 look.

[@dwn2634]

Mini Clubman (F54) rear wipers. Finicky perfection.

[@andrewhurstcars]

Two-car garage for next week. As it’s a recession year, you’re looking for two ‘under the radar’ cars - which won’t attract too much attention on the road. One must be a coupé / two doors (no convertibles), and the other a four-door saloon or SUV. As you are a very successful entrepreneur, the budget is unlimited. Both cars must on sale today / new, as safety is a concern. Choose the paint colours wisely.

[@79blustone]

For me one of them will be a Honda civic advance in Sonic grey without any other extras because its on sale at £39799. Any other single optional extra added including a change of colour will bump the car into the luxury car tax bracket for the next 5 years....😑

[@1976Dovey]

Possible two car garage topic: Go back to when you fell in love with cars as a child and pick two cars, one exotic and one practical that were on sale when each of you were 10 years old. No budget restrictions.

[@justinschultz4325]

Harris says of two car garage, "Can we have some brevity?" Cooper launches into story. Ha!

[@minislot1]

100% up for a Hi-fi/Turntable chat. Plenty of scope for allegories to cars too.

[@bluesmartroadster]

The new savagegeese video might be of interest. Not had the time to listen to it myself however appears to be 2 hours of car and hifi chat between a car guy and an audio guy.

[@Miggy2j]

Great episode gents, longer the better! Simple 2 car garage idea from me. Unlimited budget, but the 2 cars are your cars for life these are the only two cars you could ever own or drive. The kicker is they must be cars that are for sale or have been for sale from collecting cars.

[@JBOsurf]

A great podcast for pen enthusiasts. Also looking forward to Ed's new podcast - Lunching Addicts.

[@stuartcudlip223]

I’m with Neil. Uni all the way☺️

[@revup1585]

Neil Clifford is my spirit animal

[@user-qh8gf2vc5t]

Love the scramble! Please do a live event there next time!

[@986am]

Enjoyed seeing Chris Cooper’s sausage, with apt number plate, at the - fantastic - scramble on Sunday. Slightly disappointed it was on PS4 not Cup 2s … but it was chilly… Keep up the good work, these chats bring a lot of joy to a great many people. Must be many folk around the country like myself chuckling / nodding in agreement throughout the topics. Thank you 🏁

[@thomasbarton795]

Nothing annoys me more than a semi automated rear wiper while in reverse... I've spent all day trying not to use the wipers on my semi clean car to not have windscreen marks, to reverse in a space and it wipe for me without any washer fluid being used 😢😢

[@RainMakr]

Manish, I couldn't agree with you more. I had a Monaco watch that ran impeccably, and despite the fact that I went surfing in it, wore it everywhere, in pools, skied (high altitude), etc, the watch was amazing. Then, for some unknown reason, I was persuaded to "get it serviced" as one of my mates said it would devalue. I collected the watch, went to Ibiza and was in the pool, and dipped my hand in, for 5 mins, and it was full of water! All those years - no issues, first service, and the link leaks like the Titanic. I barely wear the watch now.

[@jdwaudi]

Best rear wiper I’ve used was the Porsche 987. Perfect for clearing the morning condensation off by the beach here in Southern California. No washer function. Headlight wipers however, trash.

[@MikeAllan89]

Chris, let’s see how you get on without regular oil changes on the E61 M5 😂

[@ColinCarFan]

Lamborghini were light years ahead with the Miura, the black louvres were aerodynamic, enabled rear vision and kept the glass clear.

[@pollard100]

Rhossili beach looks incredible... For those looking for a more northern equivalent try Harlech beach just north of Barmouth. Fantastic drive out over the Pen y pass

[@ruleninetyone]

The car for me at Bicester was that 80’s Zagato Aston. Love it!

[@ruleninetyone]

Oh and I’ve had pneumonia this year too.

[@tdotcom_lee2537]

Toyota Camry station wagon had a twin rear wiper setup, great entertainment as always

[@ChrisDorgan]

Some of the best roads up that way in Wales, beautiful scenery. Problem is all the cameras they're putting up. Trough of Bowland, the Dales, the borders... there's a lot passed Birmingham to do lids :P come up and say hello :D

[@jmrcars]

The Sunday Scramble was my first car meet as a fairly new driver. Took my mate and me to it in my shitbox Renault Clio Billabong spec😂 and it was the most fun I've had in a car so far. We purchased ourselves some lovely TWAT glasses that made us look even more like twats if that was even possible so thanks a lot for that Chris! I can't wait for the next one. What an event!

[@CodyKelly-]

Another certified addict classic ✅

[@richardearth2848]

Whoever added the music to the Spotify list this week got Neil's choice wrong. He chose Hello Earth by Kate Bush which is a track on Hounds of Love but Hounds of love has been added instead. I didnt used to care but ive now become all Chris Cooper about things 😂😂👍

[@jamiegoddard1899]

Latest gen Fiesta has a small switch on the end of the wiper stalk with two speeds of intermittent. Not very exciting except a quick flick on and off produces a single swipe which is extremely satisfying. Especially on a grimey wet winter day like today.

[@rowandowell9487]

top class hangover cure

[@SDumitru23]

1957 Lancia Flaminia Berlina had QUAD rear wipers. 2 on the outside and twin on the inside of the glass. Served a rear demister.

[@joeblack1828]

Twin rear wiper setup on a production car, look at the 1992 to 1996 Toyota Camry estate. You won't regret it

[@Cypress_green]

A 1960 Lancia Flaminia has dual windshield wipers both on the outside and inside of the rear windscreen.

[@RATTLER238]

Range Rover L405 rear wiper is ingenious in its operation quite frankly! Press the button, wash followed by a wipe then another wash (even tho you only pressed the button once)and a few wipes and then rest’s in the opposite position, then wipes again to remove drips! I believe this is called a smart wash/wipe. Also if front wipers set to auto then if they have been activated by rain when you select reverse the rear wipes automatically too!! Ford Transit/Tourneo Connect has wipers that are opposing ie, go to both A pillars from the middle. This also does the automatic select reverse wipe function. The best engineered wiper has to Mercedes-Benz eccentric sweep mono wiper found on the R129’s, W201, W204, W210, W202 and W208 (CLK) Models also. I am lucky enough to own all of the above vehicles so I am in wiper heaven Lol 🤘🏼😎

[@ashystyle]

2:40 The problem with the rear wiper is that you never seem to be able to buy them at the parts store in order to replace them. The front vipers you change all the time but not the rear ones.

[@8359s]

Best rear wiper: 944, it helps a lot.

[@ashystyle]

1:21:53 You got to love Chris!

[@neeklaus]

Manish is right about the Ferrari movie. I didn’t learn anything about Enzo and there didn’t seem to be any change in his character by the end. In a way it had similar failings to Napoleon. Its focus was split between a love story and a battle (in this case a battle of 1000 miles) but lacked dramatic unity and integration. I’m glad he picked up on that piece of music from the Insider. Shoehorned. Chris also right about the big crash at the end - felt quite tastelessly handled. Perhaps they run out of money on the CGI budget? In any case it is the least ‘Michael Mann’ Michael Mann film, which is shame because his contribution to cinema has been epic.

[@jonhenderson]

RS2 has separate washer reservoir behind a side panel in the boot/trunk. Agree the rear wiper operation is silly on that - they improved it on the subsequent model (ie B5 A4). I can’t agree with newer is always better though. Enjoying the pod gents 👍

[@NM-yr2ts]

Two car garage: Real life, Lots, and I mean lots of hard work and a bit of luck paid of and now a 10 y/o boy inside me is the happiest boy in the world becuase he will be able to assamble a dream two car garage (he never wanted anything more). He first fell in love with a car when he saw a sexy, bright red Maserati Granturismo that roared past him. My god that noise.... That day it was all over for him and his future wallet. The boy grew up as a real peteolhead, loving analog cars, manuals, naturally aspirated engines, hydraulic steering, etc. He always imagined actually driving the hell out of cars, rwd and awd. He knows a lot about the industry and the history of the brands. He learned to respect it and love it. Now that boy is a 30 y/o who has a budget of around 1 mil. I love to ski, it is an essential. I grew up whatching crazy Jon Olsson putting a Thule on Lamborginis and going skiing while doing donouts on snow and ice. Well, I intend to be a bit more civilised becuase I can have two cars in which I can do donouts, one to put a Thule on and go skiing, to often go travel with friends/familly, a practical car but it has to be something with petrolhead blood in it, something really cool and most importantly something that is a dream to drive. I have to mention, I have a thing for estates, I really am not into this whole SUV thing. I mean all the roads in the Alps are nicely mantained to be honest, theres no need for a stupid SUV. The second car sould be a dream poster sports or super car, no hyper car. Manual, as analog as it gets yet modern if there's such a thing. I dont have a problem with older cars either, contrary. Engine that makes the sky shake! A car that does not exceed 500/600hp. I could not care less for top speed, I care for driving pleasure. Something under the radar perhaps. A sunday car. If possible it would be good to have some money saved in order to invest in a garage itself, why not. Go on! English is not my native language, sorry for the possible mistakes. Thanks for possible suggestions and cheers

[@dflack]

Double rear wiper- the modern Mini Clubman.

[@darrenwking1]

32 minutes in, Berkhamsted cinema is "The Gatsby". And only "arty" films there. but a decent drink! Good episode by the way, from an old Berko resident

[@wellsyandcars]

Guys, can you do a tribute to Alpina at one of your coffee mornings. As you know 2024 is the last full year of the Alpina brand. I know you all love them, I own one and it would be amazing to get as many as possible together towards the end of the year to celebrate the brand.

[@jasondentcornerforce]

Citroen CX, concave rear screen didn't need a wiper. Ford fiesta mk1, separate rear washer bottle and it's own switch next to the heater controls

[@simes205]

CX yes and 205GTI has its own rear bottle and control.

[@BeauAckx]

The MINI Clubman has a twin wiper setup but it’s crap as the glass is too wide and not tall enough so you end up with stumps of wipers on the back

[@simonhbacon]

Now very nostalgic for riding motorcycles out of Portsmouth. I think you were talking about Fort Purbrook.

[@stefan29]

I quite like my B5 Passat, droopy wiper and all...

[@jamesw4893]

Another great episode gents. It would be great to hear your collective thoughts on scale model collecting in a future segment. I'm keen to hear some experienced views on high-quality scale model display cars - resin, diecast, whatever. I used to have a good Bburago collection of 1.18 cars. Now keen to up the budget and have one or two very special items. Any thoughts on brands such as AutoArt, BBR, Amalgam, etc? Really appreciate the time and effort with these podcasts. Keep up the great work!

[@Spinthatshitsleepy]

Talking about service on cars. Mr C.Harris! Have you replaced the rodbearings on that M5 of yours?!😂

[@mrcolmun]

Is Neil going through a Gregory Porter phase?? (Looks better than his previous Brian Harvey look!)

[@gordonsimpson3235]

Changing oil in your car is about the cheapest thing to do, but also a great insurance policy. My M-B has the same engine as your SL Chris H, and this engine is goof for galactic miles as long as you change the oil. Short trips, cold garages, starting up and moving around the garage puts a lot of fuel into the oil IMO. I have never 'run-in' a car, and never had a problem (oil consumption etc). I find that they are always faster cars if you spank them from new.

[@jonathancarson1974]

With all this wiper talk this is turning into Hubnut 😂

[@simes205]

And he had a Camry (rear twin wipers!)

[@kevincoombs7348]

Neil C the A387 (I think) from Fishguard north is a truly great drive. much like the PCH in some ways.

A rear facing, forward driving race series Has to be explored I think 🤔

[@maverick4177]

A trip to Whitstable, Herne bay or Broadstairs, Margate in the Mk1 golf cabriolet in any season is a good day

[@dominicrusho]

I’m sat here shouting MINI CLUBMAN!

[@petersnodden6068]

Chris Harris saying that about the Le Mans film is like when Ron Burgundy told San Diego to go F**k itself. Not only is it responsible for the seminal use the 'victory' fingers, It's an amazing document of the era, properly ragged Porsche 917s at all sorts of wonky angles beautifully captured - and the sound. It changed how I played with my green Matchbox Superking 911 Turbo, exploiting its spongy suspension, as a 5 year old kid and it's partly the reason anyone over 45 loves Porsches so much, surely - if you're not moved by everything between 1:03:50 into the film and 1:04:10 (on KZbin) including the lady putting her hands over her ears and the final gear change, your pulse-less. Apart from that lapse of poop poop talk, do enjoy these podcasts.

[@martinwheeler5233]

I believe that Winston Churchill was THE seminal influencer regarding victory fingers btw... Chris was commenting on Le Mans as a piece of film making and i for one agree it is one of the dullest, most plot less movies ever made. The dialogue is pure excrement.

[@petersnodden6068]

​@@martinwheeler5233 True, Winstons were the ultimate victory V's, I was being a wee bit tongue in cheek. McQueens were the less polite, well practised and widely seen on the roads today version! As a piece of film making, there are some beautifully shot scenes, that evoke the times. Of course the plot and dialogue is crap, complaining about that, is nearly as stupid as the script itself, it's a car film, they always contain lines that would make you want to crawl up your own arse with embarrassment. The fact is though, theres' barely any dialogue for the first 40 minutes, the movie is more about visuals and sounds and evoking the feeling of LeMans in the 70s, A fabulous document of cars in motion back in the day being slithered around by the likes of Derek Bell, Dickie Attwood and Masten Gregory, also famed for his borderline le mans victory salute ;) - that mightn't be your bag though and that's also grand.

[@SmashGhost]

Toyota Camry Wagon had twin rear wipers back in the day