College Student Mysteriously Dies at Alcohol-Fueled Wakeboarding Event | Lauren Agee Case Analysis

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[@intallpines]

The behavior of the 3 friends after the crime (moving to Florida, changing looks), leads me to believe they know a lot more than they claim. Maybe one of them will come clean one day, that is my hope for Lauren.

[@GigiRulesTheRoost]

wow. did they really change their looks? wow. that's really telling

[@MakerInMotion]

If they have gotten away with it, I hope they never sleep well and live lives full of misfortune and sadness.

[@Nevermore694]

The reason for moving her body into the water would be so a rape kit would likely not produce results, if one had been done. She was young and inexperienced, and unfortunately did not live long enough to develop better judgement to keep herself safe.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

not necessarily. They could be uncomfortable with people believing they killed somebody.

[@humbull]

​@@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366the fact that they wanted to stay and have fun is weird. And the day after her death, that guy posted "best weekend ever", it's like they had zero compassion or empathy. Yuk! Not my kind of friends.

[@altvctr]

I appreciate that you are calling them acquaintances rather than friends. Those people clearly didn't care for her, if not worse

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

why should they? its not their job bro, everyone was high too

[@earth0128]

Absolutely 👍

[@miriamllamas224]

​@@JesusAlfonsoRafaelNot even showing up at her funeral? Very insensitive.

[@RoseRoseRoseRoseRoseRose]

_"Many people use alcohol to escape reality and have some fun. The problem is they don't really escape reality. They hide reality from themselves. They engage in a pain-free fantasy while actually existing in a dangerous world, which is now even more dangerous because they've impaired reality, including gravity, which continues whether or not someone is intoxicated."_ - Dr. Grande (2023) I'm completely agreeing with your wonderful analysis, and please tell your wife how lovely her cute Christmas trees are❣️✨️😍✨️❤️

[@clifforddriver9434]

That's the same excuse to use fentanyl, heroin, cocaine, meth, should I continue. Dangerous drugs should all be categorized all in the exact same toilet, all of the ones I mentioned above are just as lethal as the other, regardless of how you lied to.

[@jeffc1753]

Where’s the proof that this applies to Lauren? Oh, there isn’t, not one bit.

[@LaniLanilei]

Why can't people get high on life. No need substances.

[@honesttruth8064]

@@clifforddriver9434 agree... alcohol related damage and deaths statistically out weigh all other drugs put together. Yet too many folks keep drinking the lie. Add prescribed pharmaceuticals, less mental health care and prevention and we have a social health disaster with white collars making ENDLESS 'legal' money.

[@honesttruth8064]

@@jeffc1753 the word intoxication?

[@timewithoutconsequence4611]

With friends like these, who needs enemies.

[@judyjudy51]

Poor girl being stuck with these people. Their lack of feeling after the tragedy is disgusting.

[@lnc-to4ku]

I completely agree!!

[@scottricci5063]

Remember being young? You think your gonna live forever. Your invincible, unapologetically self-centered and audacious. You couldn't care any less. Oh the carefree proclivities of youth.

[@LMan86]

That was the company SHE chose. And she chose to drink heavily. I’m pretty sure she got hammered and slipped off the cliff. It’s an easy mistake to make especially at night and being totally wasted.

[@goldiebelle]

@judyjudy51 I agree. I hope they read your comment too.

[@L.Fontein7]

@@LMan86 May you be shown more grace with your mistakes than you've shown this poor, dead woman here.

[@ArtByHazel]

This is tragic. May she rest in peace. It’s important to watch out for yourself especially when there’s peer pressure that’s unhealthy for you.😢

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

nice to hear a woman advocate personal responsibility

[@beckiehubley5798]

It is. And also important to watch out for others. Like not just assuming someone in the group is just off for a walk or something, when things they'd normally take are left behind. Assuming none of the group did anything to her, it probably wouldn't have changed the outcome, but they'd at least seem like decent humans.

[@amelia_k1082]

I remember this case! It was so sad. She was somewhat cautious of the group she was with and told her mom she wanted to back out going because she had a bad feeling about it. Their "campsite" was way up on the edge of a cliff, like some ridiculous height of 75 feet up above the lake. There were thoughts that the single guy had maybe come on to her during the night and scared her and she feel off the cliff. We likely will never really know the truth of the death of this beautiful young soul. RIP Lauren 😥 One sad lesson here is that ALCOHOL should never be mixed with any body of water whether it's a lake, pond, quarry or the ocean. Ever.

[@oregonsnob31]

Well states. Also, alcohol should never be consumed by a woman alone in the company of men she does not know very very well. Not her fault. But truth: women’s lives and bodies become exponentially at risk for rape or death when alcohol os mixed with men.

[@Robin-xt7yo]

@Jamal Johnson Unfortunately, women need to be cautious because we've seen the news headlines... the reality is what it is.

[@L.Fontein7]

Unfortunately, the other sad lesson to learn here per OP comment above is to always, ALWAYS TRUST YOUR GUT.

[@kristentrep5038]

@@L.Fontein7 yep! Her friends weren’t real or true friends. If the other girl was a true friend, she would have shared her position at the campsite rather than setting up Lauren to sleep in a hammock with a guy she didn’t know!

[@amelia_k1082]

@jamaljohnson6411 The case was on either 48 Hours or 20/20 or some investigative program. Her mother was interviewed and informed of info that directly led to her suspicions. I'm sure her mother has info about her daughter's death that the rest of the public doesn't have. I would no more blame a man for her death than a lightening strike, that's why I said there were suspicions. Nothing more.

[@AMultipolarWorldIsEmerging]

They either abandoned her because she wouldn’t hook up with the aggressive friend and he pushed her out of the hammock, or she tried to leave but stumbled either way her friends are pieces of s**t people who I hope will be haunted by this forever. Not being responsible for someone’s safety is a form of responsibility as strange as it may sound. If you’re with people and you think you aren’t responsible for keeping them safe especially from convict d felons and drunk boys you’re worse than a bad friend you’re just a bad person

[@lnc-to4ku]

I so agree!!

[@humbull]

Right? I agree 100%

[@wlhansen2068]

Exactly correct.Horrible people

[@scottricci5063]

Judge not, lest thee be judged. Not my brother's keeper. You want to drink excessively around ppl you don't know, that's on you. At some point ppl need to take responsibility for their own reckless behavior and stop blame-shifting. Some ppl need to learn cause and effect, action and reaction, that there are consequences. It's not a perfect world, navigate responsibly ffs.

[@honesttruth8064]

@ArchibaldMeatpants mirror?

[@archipiratta]

I have watched this case on multiple true crime channels and suffice to say, the handling of the investigation was so poor it was almost laughable! Those shady friends know a lot more than they are willing to offer up. The fact that they weren't probed harder though baffles me to this day

[@rabbitsonjupiter6824]

I can't help but think they had/have connections...

[@shanewinas6194]

All three would not be able to hold water for long

[@c.r.k.7162]

I can't believe the corner didn't test for sexual assault!

[@loiskondo8349]

This is very sad, young people don’t always have much wisdom and make poor decisions. I always told my children that at first drinking is fun, until it takes over your life and runs you. You no longer are doing what you want. There is alcoholism in my family and their father so the fun doesn’t last.

[@bellajohnson5647]

I remember this case. I lived a few miles from that lake. There is no way she could have rolled down the bluff, because of so many trees.

[@SmegInThePants]

Moral of the story: When things get sketchy enough that you find yourself speaking about the apparent sketchiness out loud, then listen to your own warning and dip - without worrying about what the others with you will think of you. Its sad that she felt strongly enough about the red flags that she even went so far as to verbalize it, yet went along anyways. She even tried a little to look for an alternative with the friend, but picked the wrong friend. Imagine how god awful that friend who told her there was no room feels. In hindsight it seems she had the right instincts, just didn't quite trust in them. Goes to show, having friends isn't a virtue in itself. The quality of said friends matters most. Don't be scared to have some standards. This girl had a good quantity of friends, but not such a good quality, at least in regards to the ones involved in this tale. Even if it turns out she wandered off in the night, it might have been due to some creepiness or just the intolerable nature of their camping setup, probably felt like a social ambush. Surprise, you are gonna sleep intimately close w/this guy you barely know out in the middle of nowhere, good night! Could have been murder. Could have been an accident they were somehow involved in so felt a need to cover up the details not realizing they were making it look even worse. Even just depraved indifference perhaps. But I can see why no one was prosecuted, how ya gonna win a case with so little evidence? Sounds like the police themselves are partly at fault for the lack of evidence though. Maybe some day more evidence will come to light. We had a case out here where the culprit was caught and prosecuted 20 years later, a dude who had been a cop at the time of the murder. But his partner at the time is still free in spite of being suspected as well, but the new evidence only implicated the one who was recently prosecuted, and not the other, so one is still free while the other is not. No statute of limitations on murder, so stuff can still happen down the road. In the case I just mentioned the ex wife of the cop who was prosecuted just happened to find some evidence left behind in a closet one day when she was cleaning it out, implicating her ex husband, decades after the incident. So ya never know.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

FOMO

[@MatthewMS.]

I love ❤️ New Jersey

[@user-xg3uy6hq9g]

@R Voit adults do as well

[@beckiehubley5798]

It isn't as simple as just choosing better friends. Sometimes circumstances are you just don't have great options for friends. I'm not saying that means you have to hang out with not so great friends like this...but it's not always easy.

[@rhondasisco-cleveland2665]

I remember this. I live not too far from there. I feel terrible for her family. It would be so hard to never know for sure if it was a terrible accident, or something else.

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*A Good Looking GirL, she waaaas, but Not Now!!!* *If a Good Guy, (ME) had Tried to TaLk to Her, This (Drunk) wouLd have* *just Farted in My Face!!!!* *These (Hater of GodSLuuuts) Get wut is Coming to them!!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have been Watching Out for Her!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have had BeTTer PLans for the Night!!! & NO ALcoHoL!!!* *Good Guys are ALWAYS HATED by theseSLuuuts!!!!*

[@d.j.daugherty4945]

The older I get I realize more and more why I did not hangout with "college kids" even when I was that age bracket.

[@NicholasWolfwood-md7vm]

College kids are the worst form of young people that exist.

[@JustNodIfYouCanHearMe77]

It's amazing how more deaths don't occur from these parties

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*Get Rid of the StuPud User Name!!!!*

[@Cec9e13]

I would think a wakeboarding tournament "heavily associated with alcohol" would eventually fizzle from, oh, I don't know, the effects of natural selection.

[@icturner23]

Lauren may have fallen and become fatally injured but attempted to move and ended up in the water as a result. However, I think it’s most likely that the campers discovered her body and moved it so that they weren’t blamed for the terrible choice of campsite or something else that happened there. Even if not, they seem to be absolutely horrible people.

[@oneminuteofmyday]

That’s what I wondered- did they discover she had fallen, then decided to move her body into the water just to make their lives easier? I don’t know anything about this case other than what was said in this video, but it just made me wonder.

[@kateywallis1238]

She had someone else’s clothes on though wat was point in that

[@elliebellie7816]

It's amazing how many of these mysterious deaths and disappearances always involve copious amounts of alcohol and late nights out.

[@jodybrown4956]

Many tragic things take place involving smoking Marijuana Satan's candy meth spiritistic activity fortune telling horoscope birthday celebrations Christmas celebrations awgaboards all condemned in Bible altering the mind with drugs influence of Satan not harmless fun

[@toolegittoquit_001]

And poor choices in companions

[@lnc-to4ku]

What a tragic case! The people she was with sounded so cold and disgusting! Incredible video, Dr. Grande! And the four Christmas trees are amazing! 🌲🌲🌲🌲💗

[@jodybrown4956]

Christmas trees very creepy disgusting total pagan do your research .

[@jaqueitch]

She signed her own fate by acting like a fool. She got drunk as a skunk and fell off a bluff. Stupidity should not be used as an excuse to feel bad for her.

[@Traderjoe]

She shared a hammock with a stranger to sleep in? He has no information about her getting out in the middle of the night? How do two people share a hammock and the other person not know the other person got up? The only way I could think of would be if the guy was completely inebriated

[@nickyblue4866]

They could be deep asleep from the liquor

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

no shit sherlock

[@L.Fontein7]

...the same way four people can be murdered in a house and the other two roommates who were present in the house don't know it till the next day. It may sound incomprehensible but it DOES happen.

[@jasonmoore7223]

@@L.Fontein7 nah you're wrong the guy in the hammock 100% murdered her

[@JohnDoe-fu3lw]

@@jasonmoore7223 seems very very likely...maybe it will come to light like that kid from the Netherlands that murdered that girl in the Bahamas he was recorded owning up to it in a conversation with a friend of his

[@rosevisionmacs]

@11:45 I love your description of using alcohol in an attempt to escape reality. It really can make reality more lethal. Thank you for your wise words.

[@lace1245]

I love the trees! This is such a sad case. She was a beautiful girl with her entire life ahead of her. May she rest in peace 😔

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

she sounded like an irresponsible drunk tbh

[@lace1245]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafael all of us make irresponsible mistakes at some point. Several of them, probably. Doesn’t make her any less deserving of a long, happy life, and a chance to make better decisions.

[@janinemccartha1811]

Hi Dr. Grande. She is such a beautiful & also intelligent lady as well. It seems to be a likely story of no one really knows what hapoened to her. Those fake friends are blatant liars. Keep up the on point analyses Dr. G. Fabulous Crhistmas ornaments, tell Mrs. G they are so gorgeous! Peace, love, Janine Smiley✌👍🙂😉😘😙😇🆒️💯❕❗🚗🚘🏡🎶🎵🌹🌺🎊🎉🎈

[@AnnSmajstrla]

Lauren was absolutely failed by her “friends.”

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

yeh cos they forced her to drink yeh?

[@AnnSmajstrla]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafael all of your comments are just you being a dick to people. What the hell dude

[@DennettDanielle]

They didn’t conduct a sexual assault test??????? Unbelievable!!!!

[@oregonsnob31]

This world is nuts

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

whats sexual assault? a drunken hand on an unconsenting knee is sexual assault, how you gonna test for that?

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

what if she had rough drunken sex that night? white girls be pretty loose and easy and many luv rough sex, hence 50 shades and female rape fantasies, lots of women luv it - 'PULL MY HAIR!' hahahaha

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

@@oregonsnob31 cos the answer to everything is rape loool u Feminists love it, u cant stop talking about it, something you'd like to admit Amy?

[@ChristinaTodd1970]

I think it's foul play but it's unprovable

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*A Good Looking GirL, she waaaas, but Not Now!!!* *If a Good Guy, (ME) had Tried to TaLk to Her, This (Drunk) wouLd have* *just Farted in My Face!!!!* *These (Hater of GodSLuuuts) Get wut is Coming to them!!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have been Watching Out for Her!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have had BeTTer PLans for the Night!!! & NO ALcoHoL!!!* *Good Guys are ALWAYS HATED by theseSLuuuts !!!!*

[@alyssaheller7860]

Unprovable because police didnt investigate properly, already deciding it was an accident by a drunk kid. They let critical info be lost forever. EVERY death, esp if it wasnt very obviously à natural death (from natural causes- and an accident is NOT natural), invesgators are not supposed to make assumptions and approach every death as suspicious, to preserve evidence just in case it turns out to be foul play. And officials are supposed consider EVERY possibility, and not stop or make a conclusion until all the facts are gathered and examined, and critical thinking and reason is used to come to a conclusion based on all the facts. Its quite disgusting how this was handled and investigated. Its actually, even with the lost evidence and lost time, has been confidently proven an accidental fall from her campsite, theres no physical way for her body to end up where she was found. That alone means, at the very least, someone moved her body from where she most likely died. And there is more PI's found than this. But this, atleast, LE should have figured out early on in the investigation. A very obvious thing for them would be seeing if her falling at her campsite, if her body could end up in the cove. Finding this out while interrogating her asshole friends and everyone else who saw of spoke to her from her family, others at the event who spoke and/or saw her, the family of her "friends ", etc to find out who the main parties in this case are. Even if she was drunk, doesnt mean she is not worth finding out what actually happened. LE is NEVER supposed approach any death as an accident. They are actually, supposed to approach every death as suspicious so they dont ruin or miss evidence in case the death did involve a crime. This girl deserved better. Her family deserved better.

[@troy3456789]

Thank you Dr. G. This part on alcohol is the cleanest, easiest to understand explanation of alcohol and someone's subjective conscious experience (without even talking about how toxic it really is to a human) I have ever heard. If nothing else, I want to send just this part to some very close friends with short attention spans.

[@taylormfinney]

Good point. Maybe Dr. G can do a “short” repeating that section on the dangers of alcohol use. It is quite a succinct explanation.

[@sarahjane9512]

I met her dad once... This case is so sad and tragic...

[@tallblonde1976]

The "camping spot" sounds horrible. I remember something similar, hot with mosquitoes and sleeping in the back of a pickup truck. Poor Lauren and family, I feel terrible this happened and hope her mother, in time, finds peace.

[@lynnehuff9659]

I agree, what a dangerous place to camp.

[@87prawblems]

I know this family through a mutual friend. It’s devastating! Thank you for covering Lauren’s case.

[@leighblacklocke7190]

The callousness of young people is something I witnessed being in public education for 27 years. It's easy to believe her acquaintances were culpable for her death. Law enforcement failed Lauren.

[@veritasaequitas1111]

Whoa wait a minute, press pause... You said one of the people she was with that night posted on Instagram with a caption that read "What a great weekend" the DAY AFTER her body was discovered!!??? 🤔

[@Cec9e13]

Well it wasn't HIS body, so...

[@jimc.goodfellas]

"alcohol fueled" rarely leads to good outcomes

[@Shutityou]

On the contrary, if one disregards the obvious outliers one would find there are lots of good times had in “alcochol fuelled” situations!

[@anne-marieh6128]

Dang Dr. G! Your closing/summation was among the best of your best. Well done!

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*A Good Looking GirL, she waaaas, but Not Now!!!* *If a Good Guy, (ME) had Tried to TaLk to Her, This (Drunk) wouLd have* *just Farted in My Face!!!!* *These (Hater of GodSLuuuts) Get wut is Coming to them!!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have been Watching Out for Her!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have had BeTTer PLans for the Night!!! & NO ALcoHoL!!!* *Good Guys are ALWAYS HATED by theseSLuuuts!!!!*

[@vict6131]

Such a sad case :( I love your analysis, Dr!

[@rullmourn1142]

I remember this case. Choose your friends wisely, is all I can say.

[@shrapnel77]

I have a camping hammock, which is very large and accommodating for ONE person. It's strong enough to hold two people, but it is a very intimate experience. It's not like camping in a tent, where you can lay by yourself. Very, very strange to have someone you just met laying with you in a hammock. This dude probably thought he was going to get lucky, either way, something's off with those three idiots.

[@MissHannah2036]

I don't think she slept in the hammock with him by all accounts she didn't seem comfortable with the idea. In general, you would not be comfortable or be able to sleep...He fell asleep by himself, she must have gone off somewhere.

[@vladimirputindreadlockrast812]

With friends like those, who needs enemies. :(

[@danpartridge8584]

Another great video, Doc. I've started adapting your opening statement whenever I have a conflict at work: "I'd like to remind everyone: I'm not angry at anyone in the office...only speculating about what could be happening in a situation like this." 😂 Keep up the great content ✌️

[@gabrielamartiniuc6322]

Best weekend ever? That’s a sick , disturbing comment considering a young lady lost her life !

[@TheBub26]

the amanda knox approach to not looking suspicious after an acquaintance's demise = best weekend ever!

[@a.evelyn5498]

I’ve heard a great deal about this case & I’ve never thought foul play wasn’t involved. I certainly do think it was or at least negligence. I don’t understand how the guy in the hammock with her didn’t hear & feel her get out at night. Calling his BS.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

its called being drunk luv

[@Youdatguy]

I don’t agree with you, Dr. I respect your opinion and understand it’s okay we can agree to disagree but I really appreciate your input. It has made me think it could be otherwise but my intuition which has no bearing on this case at all tells me it’s the boy who was getting nooooooo play from her that night. He thought and the friend talked her up like she was so called “down to party” we all know what expectations and alcohol can fuel. I’m with you that the liquor and her ability to just leave did not help but either did her three party goers. They all sucked. You called it out 🙏

[@skreemqueen7520]

This case has stuck in my mind for a long time. I remember how strange the 3 remaining “friends “ acted according to the police. I remember one officer saying as they took the 3 by boat to be interviewed one of the men was staring at the officers gun. When he ask what was going through the guys mind the guy answered, “ I’m trying to figure out how I can get that gun away from you and get off this boat!” Ugh , what ?😮 It was those kinds of actions and there were a lot of them that made the 3 look guilty. My heart goes out to Lauren family. She deserved a much better investigation. It’s heartbreaking.

[@lynnd5342]

Huge speculation here but maybe she did fall, got seriously hurt and the friends got paranoid because maybe they did more than drink so they moved the body. Or the aggressive guy pushed her because she wouldn’t hook up with him, she fell and got seriously hurt so he moved the body. This case was weird.

[@QuirkyQuillify]

I have extremely low tolerance for alcohol; just a glass of beer will give me rashes and a headache. As a result, I rarely ever consume alcohol. Sometimes I regret this, like I'm missing all the fun, but videos like this is a consolation. It is a reminder that by avoiding alcohol, I am avoiding so many dangerous situations that could cost money or lives.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

a glass of red a day is good for u, but yeh u damn right, dont ever start

[@maryannanderson2213]

I'm having troubling imagining how any rational human being could see a woman missing but her SHOES are still there and they casually decide, "oh she must have just gone for a walk". I don't know many people who would deliberately go barefoot on such a rugged place as this, a place that abounded in rocks. I find it hard to believe that she even deliberately left her cell phone behind but I find it impossible to believe that in the rocky place they were camping, she would choose to leave behind her shoes! I don't believe these young people's story and how they skated free amazes me.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

evidence luv, i know u women dont need evidence to condemn men to jail but civilised, logical people do

[@lilithowl]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafael ok incel

[@EasternDreamer615]

I went to high school with these folks. It’s sad to say but I’m not surprised that this happened.

[@elliebellie7816]

Yeah, similar situation happened to a couple of kids at my school and the only thing that surprised me was that it took so long to happen.

[@urbanstrider]

How do you mean? Do you think they killed her and got away with it?

[@EasternDreamer615]

@@elliebellie7816 absolutely, these were poorly supervised, upper middle class kids. Lots of disposable income but not much attention from responsible adults. Lake incidents are common in that area, almost all of which involve alcohol use. There isn’t much to do in Tennessee for non-drinkers. Phargoh, I’m not sure. Lauren tried to bully me once but I reported her and never interacted with her again. She had an abrasive personality and rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

[@jamesbowman6925]

Do you think that the guy she shared the hammock with raped her and murdered her?

[@EasternDreamer615]

@@jamesbowman6925 No idea but law enforcement is incentivized not to report the truth in the case of a serious crime because they want people to keep attending the lake event and spending money. I wouldn’t be surprised if that was the case but the State of Tennessee would try to avoid it to maintain a certain reputation.

[@merrisl6685]

Nothing was made of the fact Lauren initially suffered a head injury due to bumping her head on a rock after jumping into water. I'm not a doctor, but I understand this kind of trauma to the head can lead to slow bleeding on the brain, and can manifest many hours after the injury. If this is the case Lauren may have become confused in the night or suffered some loss of consciousness that led to her disappearance and death. With the added problem of alcohol, her outlook was never good.

[@humbull]

The water current part makes me suspect that there's more to the story than an accidental fall.

[@kelliearnold8498]

How very sad! I hope and pray the truth comes out. God Bless you and yours Dr.Grande. Amazing job as always!!!!

[@ann-mariejones2824]

Our hearts are at the mercy of our children 💗💗💗🇦🇺

[@andromeda1903]

this is heartbreaking! seeing tragic stories like this one makes me glad i have no friends bc you can't trust anybody :(

[@lancel71]

Alcohol consumption always adds an element of 'sketch' to pretty much anything.

[@matthewlawrenson2734]

May we all find better friends to go camping with.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

what a weird prayer, Amen, the father the son and the drunken cliff dive

[@cherylcallahan5402]

*Dr. Todd Grande appreciate your videos Listening From Mass USA TYVM 🇺🇸 Todd Grande*

[@calreed4441]

I've heard of this case. Didn't realize until now that she'd hit her head. It doesn't normally get covered.

[@MEL2theJ]

I have several friends that are E.R doctors. The stories that they have shared over the years about the deaths and injuries that occur at these drunken festivals are frightening. One specific incident that I'll never forget was about a young lady that slammed the hatchback of her suv shattering the glass. She was so heavily intoxicated that her natural instinct to close her eyes didn't even kick in. She was blinded. Though spared her life, unlike the subject of this video. Thank you again Dr. Grande for reminding us of how dangerous these outings can be 🙏

[@viviansytsui]

It just doesn't feel like they did her justice by doing such a sloppy investigation... This smells of foul play somewhere.

[@curtisjeffries9640]

It's good to see you again, doctor.

[@jacobhope6164]

Whitney Houston: I believe that children are the future...! Dr. Grande: Foolish children, alcohol will kill you, one way or the other. Long may you live you teller of truth!

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

white women only having 1.52 kids per couple,, kids aint their future

[@lisamac8503]

Its hard to tel your kids to not drink when the parents are drinking which in my opinion is usually the case Not always of course but if kids see their parents drinking why would they not follow the same pattern ? Set the example and be responsible It might save your kids in the future

[@jacobhope6164]

@@lisamac8503 My wife and I have 3 young daughters, and no one in our home drinks alcohol.

[@jacobhope6164]

@@JesusAlfonsoRafael huh?

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

@@jacobhope6164 huh?

[@thelocalmaladroit8873]

It all seems suspicious until you add the alcohol factor, then anything is possible. Maybe she did fall, but didn’t die and in a dazed state crawled into the water then died. Thanks Doc, the trees 🌲 were a treat!

[@karlamarx5954]

Even if the others werent her friends..not going to the funeral????! Thats awful. Even just out of respect for her family geez...

[@scottricci5063]

Maybe they had to attend another party. Keg deposits aren't cheap, not to mention the cocaine and ecstacy.

[@googleslocik]

​@@scottricci5063 Yes, since what a funeral needs is 2 strangers that didnt even know the daughter but happened to be there when she disappeared and who the family blames for her death. Do you really think its so weird they didnt go? The results might have been just fighting and arguing and attempts at interrogating them.

[@scottricci5063]

@@googleslocik first of all, ppl act different in all types of scenarios. You've let the paranoia and cynicism of crime shows and movies affect your everyday reasoning. Every reaction to a circumstance isn't necessarily a smoking gun. You don't know, I don't know, bcuz we weren't there. Do you really presume that your armchair sleuthing has solved that which the law and its criminal sciences have not. You're a witch hunter. The only one who knows is dead and she was obviously too wasted to fully know. At the very End the Truth will be unveiled and the guilty will be judged. But not by you or me or the court of public opinion. My previous reply was an attempt at ridiculous levity, bcuz the guess game on here is ridiculous.

[@taianaladeira5234]

With friends like that Who needs enemys ?

[@itssuhaibalrumi]

the last line is so true yet so overlooked by most people

[@_MissANGIE]

Sleep can wait! Dr. Grande time❤

[@LaniLanilei]

After thought. Could that bump on her head cause vertigo? Head injuries sometime appear none threatening then you die hours later. Friends? NOT necessarily so. None of them did anything to help.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

yeh they should have jumped off the cliff and caught her mid-air then landed safely at the bottom

[@nyxen8712]

My theory is that maybe one of the guys got aggressive with her and she fell and hit something. Maybe they thought she was dead but wasnt yet so they decided to put the body in the water and by the time they got her there she was dead. This would explain how her body got to the water, along with the injuries that she sustained.

[@bigtimepimpin666]

How could this possibly not go wrong..?

[@coryjohnson2486]

You’re the best Dr. Grande. I hope you continue to succeed!!

[@Cec9e13]

Alcohol. And cliff diving. "Oh, maybe she just went off somewhere without so much as her sandals. We'll meet up with her barefoot, phone-and-ID-free self later. La di da." I think there was more than one dummy involved. WHYYYYYY did she go with these people.

[@birdworldist]

Yesss king go off!!!

[@barfymann362]

Dear Dr. Grande, I hope you'll consider covering the case of Andrew Callaghan - I really do hope you bring some light to the matter and offer your opinion. Thank you.

[@SirenaSpades]

How weird is it, to share a hammock with a total stranger? Why would this even be considered? You can't even get your own hammock? I wouldn't even go on a trip without considering these kind of things.. pass.

[@panushjo]

victim blaming my hot cheeto friend

[@independentthinker9113]

What sh!tty "friends"! I think the guy came onto her, she rebuffed him and got out of the hammock, then she wandered too close to the cliff and fell.

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

without evidence it means nothing, anyone could think anything, i think it was bigfoot

[@christopherconwell7271]

"Reality, Including Gravity" lmao

[@kathywright7395]

I live in Hendersonville and it’s widely thought the friends know more than they are saying. I hope that haunts them for the rest of their lives

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

it wont

[@christina3521]

Maybe in middle age and later the hauntings will begin. Regret and denial and nightmares will surface.

[@lisacolledge7624]

Just started the video, Dr Grande. Thought I'd stop and tell you how awesome you look in the pink shirt. 💗 not ONLY is that a gift to the eyes, there's a video with your 4 Christmas trees.! Along with a million or so others, I think you're bloody fabulous. ❤️

[@tylerstamps2786]

I’m a native of this place and jumped off these cliffs hundreds of times. It’s a less than ideal spot to camp especially for the uninitiated. Being buzzed at night one could easily slip and fall. BUT the behavior of her “friends” is incredibly sus…leads one to ask are they guilty or just stupid!?

[@joey22306]

What possibly could go wrong 🤷

[@suehuman3076]

Drinking does not go with any activity even just living, thanks Doc and love the pink shirt, glad you mixing it up for 2023

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

he's trans now

[@sparkleplenty59]

You did it again, doc. Well said. 😊💟✝️☮️

[@Justice_TRUTH_Martyr]

*A Good Looking GirL, she waaaas, but Not Now!!!* *If a Good Guy, (ME) had Tried to TaLk to Her, This (Drunk) wouLd have* *just Farted in My Face!!!!* *These (Hater of GodSLuuuts) Get wut is Coming to them!!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have been Watching Out for Her!!!* *ME??? I wouLd Have had BeTTer PLans for the Night!!! & NO ALcoHoL!!!* *Good Guys are ALWAYS HATED by theseSLuuuts!!!!*

[@pamelamorello6839]

Hi! Please consider doing a video about missing Jennifer Kesse! She has been missing 17 years today. I enjoy your analysis of mysterious crimes so I would like to hear your thoughts. I have so many questions. Do you think it's possible she could still be alive? Who took her and how is it possible in broad daylight? Was it a neighbor, construction worker at her condo, was it more than 1 person? Was this premeditated? Thank you!

[@joyceshiver6622]

Okay your wife going over her Christmas ornaments is something I didn’t know I needed in my life but… I feel like I’m missing a whole new world. 🤘🏻

[@Robin-xt7yo]

Always enjoy your analysis Dr. Grande! My "go to" channel as I retire for the evening.

[@MatthewMS.]

Death and murder is my escape too 😅

[@Robin-xt7yo]

@@MatthewMS. 😅

[@leylamoody3177]

Excellent analysis, Dr. Grande. ❤️

[@dmitrymanchenkov2996]

Thank you for another wonderful review, Dr. Grande! How beautiful this young girl was... And how abruptly and horribly her blossoming and promising life was suddenly ended. What also struck me in this case is this cruel irony of fate: Ms. Agee had been studying criminal science and became a prey to the circumstances which may also have been of criminal nature. Probably, the police could have conducted a more thorough investigation of this case, but, alas, nothing will ever bring the lovely and beautiful Ms. Agee back to life. RIP.

[@TallGrass44]

Her friends were awful.

[@lf9341]

Poor parents. How disgusting these people still continued after.........

[@nbctheoffice]

The Cactus King!

[@privard89]

All hail the cacti 🌵

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

hes mexican

Doctor Todd your Christmas trees look awesome! I hope one day I can join your Patreon. I wish you a 2023 full of tranquility, serenity and off course: success. I really admire you as a professional and an amazing human being. God bless you, greetings from South America. PD: Every year past your deep dark humor, tones itself like stupendous bold tannat. Take care dear and respected DR. Todd.

[@brianbiddle2456]

not her friends

[@jeanholmes7976]

Love your trees Dr. Grande!! Have a wonderful week…😇from Jean.

[@suzf5045]

🌵Hi Dr. Grande!🌵Beautiful trees! Thank you for another quality video. Have a great weekend!

[@saffrontaylor3070]

I disagree with the Doc on this 1. Either theory cannot be proven but the group's reactions towards this beautiful young lady shows contempt and I believe the guy was sexually motivated

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

all guys are sexually motivated lol we luv the pu55y and u modern ladies give it up so easily, thank you, on behalf of all men

[@GRIGGINS1]

This just reinforces what I always tell people. Don't have idiots as friends. They will always put your life in danger.

[@fragrancememoir2350]

Excellent description of alcohol and it's effects.. Thank You for calling it out. (I recently saw a former Navy SEAL speaking about the group of college students allegedly m*rdered by Brian. He used the situation to emphasize to all people how important it is to always be aware of your surroundings, to know who's around you and your home ~like for example, you should even know the background of the apartment maintenance man etc ~ and to Never be so impaired that you are unable to keep yourself safe.. and/or to actually defend yourself.)

[@RationalGaze216]

If her death was an accidental fall, why would they move her body?

[@wildebt]

Gut feeling certainly thinks those 'friends' are guilty

[@JesusAlfonsoRafael]

u got a gut feeling without being there?? u mean u made an assumption with no evidence

[@avayu2289]

Everything you said about alcohol is poignantly accurate. Thank you.

[@frozemoments39]

It truly sounds like the police were drunk during the whole incident and investigation.

[@earth0128]

Clearly no friends present in this tragic case .... I feel for her not having somebody to look out for her. Respect and condolences to all family and friends ❤️