A Look at the Reformation - Marcus Grodi - Deep in History

In this 2006 Deep in History lecture, Marcus Grodi looks at how for so many of us in the United States, our understanding of the Reformation is colored by the fact that our nation started out as a British colony, and our shared narrative leads many of us to believe that Martin Luther and Renaissance thinkers freed humanity from a dark, ignorant, and uncivilized oppression by the Catholic Church. Marcus invites us to reexamine that view of history, to look at the data and the lives of Christians who lived during those centuries, and to get a more accurate picture of the role of the Catholic Church in society leading up to the 16th century.

[@teddyyoung32]

I'm a cradle Catholic but I appreciate the converts to Catholicism more than almost any cradle Catholic I know. They have such wonderful, deep insights and appreciation of our faith. Thank you for sharing with us

[@akionataito5458]

GOD BLESS The Coming Home Network for fantastic and awesome teachings. I believe for myself that I'm being continually catechised by historical facts of the church. I shall have a word with our RCIA team when we restart again this year be great for newbies to listen to some of these GREAT intellectual informative and enlightening factual stories of the one Holy Catholic and Apostolic Faith. Thank you very much

[@TheMunkmeister]

Im proud to live in Lancashire where the recusant catholic families were persecuted for their faith. I live on the same lane where the blessed John Finch lived. I went to st Edmund Arrowsmith High school where the martyrs hand is still on display in the church. I pass the residence of st John Rigby a mile away from my house daily. Walking in the footsteps of these great men is an inspiration to continue practicing - what they gave up for me and my family. sadly the faith of our fathers in this once great county has been thrown away over the generations.

[@JudyC23]

TheMunkmeister I

[@dianesicgala4310]

Marcus. I grew up in Norfolk. England. The next little village to where I lived was Oxburgh. The Lord of that little village to this day kept their Catholic Faith.. I remember that beautiful manor house where they had priest holes where the priest would be hid.

[@adamhovey407]

I think something to remember about the Protestant Reformation is a quote Chesterton said the reformer is often right about what is wrong they are usually wrong about what is right

[@SuperIliad]

To be deep in Chesterton is to cease to be mislead.

[@followingjesus1333]

vague ambigious statement passing for something profound

[@adamhovey407]

you know how old this is because it's just Dwight Longenecker instead of Father Dwight Longenecker

[@adamhovey407]

member of the royal family that is Catholic? I know they exist in the United Kingdom but I know it's impossible for them to ascend the throne even if they are in-line

[@dianesicgala4310]

Yes. You are right. But the Queen or Prince Charles could not convert to the Catholic Church. They have to get rid of that rule. There has been Catholic Prime Ministers.

[@followingjesus1333]

because of its doctrines of papal infallibility and infallible tradition etc there was no choice but a reformation as the Roman catholic church had closed the door on correction .

[@gch8810]

No it had not. There is always room for correction. However, none of Catholicism’s teachings were errant nor could the church’s infallible teachings be errant.

[@followingjesus1333]

@@gch8810 you have just proved my point 👍

[@1901elina]

papal infallibility is only when a Pope speaks ex cathedra "from the chair," which takes sometimes decades of deliberation to define an ex cathedra doctrine. Rather than just disqualifying the idea without considering it, think about this, can we reverse the dogma of the Trinity? Can we reverse the dogma that Jesus is fully man and fully God? There are some things that can't change. They are divine revelation. They are infaIIible. When you deny these teachings as not being infallible you get heretlcs such as Unitarians and Oneness Pentecostals.

[@fantasia55]

Luther said he was infallible.

[@paulnavarro3822]

At 10:20, "...the Bible out of its context can be interpreted in hundreds of different ways". Amen! So, it should follow that IF the Bible is interpreted IN CONTEXT it will give solely ONE message. The FAULT of "hundreds of interpretations" does not lie with the Bible. If the task of studying the Bible for interpretation is limited to a FEW men, how likely is it that a CORRECT contextual interpretation will take place, vs allowing MANY men the task? Let's say you have 5 Scholars vs 250 Scholars, who ALL have the language skills to interpret Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, Latin, i.e., the old languages, which "group", all things being equal, is more likely to come up with the CORRECT contextual interpretation? In History, the Greek Septuagint translation of the Hebrew Bible, centuries before Christ, is called the "Septuagint" because it is said that 70 Scholars translated the work. They were not depending on a handful of Scholars. And obviously, in translating one has to interpret what is being said. We call people who TRANSLATE one language to another INTERPRETERS. They do their best to give the proper sense, not only of the words being said, but of the thoughts of the speaker. To my knowledge, Sola Scriptura, does not mean, "Every INDIVIDUAL can interpret the Bible to mean whatever his little soul desires", which is what the Catholics and others ACCUSE the "Protestants" of DOING when they profess Sola Scriptura. No, Sola Scriptura simply means that the Sole AUTHORITY in matters of Christian Faith ARE WRITTEN FOREVER IN THE BIBLE, i.e., there is/are no outside the Bible AUTHORITIES - no pastors, ministers, priests, rabbis, bishops, etc. - with regard to Christian matters of Faith. All men have to defer and make their appeals to what has been written in Scripture when it comes to matters of Faith. Hence, the "Protestant" stance that the Roman Catholic Magisterium was NOT and is NOT the Sola AUTHORITY over Christian matters of Faith. Luthers "crime" of Heresy was not his 95 points which he wanted to debate. He may have been right or he may have been wrong on his points, we will never know. His "crime" was that he dared to say that the Bible, the REVEALED Word of God as had been given to His "church", the "ekklessia", by the Apostles, was the Sole AUTHORITY, the FINAL Arbiter of Christian Faith, and not "the Church", i.e., the Magisterium of Rome. So, if you want to have a handful of men, the Roman Magisterium, decide your FATE, instead of you yourself going to the WRITTEN SOURCE, the Final AUTHORITY on your LIFE, then "good luck", 'cause THEY are just following some other guy before him, who DID NOT KNOW THE Scriptures. Knowledge of the Scriptures is NOT a Catholic PRIORITY; their PRIORITIES are things of this Earth. Their "powers" so to speak are: Pouring water over a baby, slapping youths in the face, performing an incantation show over and over again, reciting the same prayers over and over, listening to people's same sins over and over again, attending funerals, "marrying" people who have already been married by the State, pouring oil over a dying person. None of which so called Sacrament is in the Bible. Rome WANTS their people to be IGNORANT of God's WRITTEN Word and will not allow any INDIVIDUAL Catholic to read or study the Bible on his own, i.e., without someone "looking over his shoulders". The Sacraments require no "work", no "effort", no expenditure of revenue, just a little inconvenience; the "Church" only takes in revenue and spends it on its Magisterium, just look at how they dress, live, and eat in comparison to the rest of the "little" people. Why is there such a DICHOTOMY between the "heads" and the "feet"? It goes back to Rome refusing to admit that the the Bible is the Sole AUTHORITY over Christian matters of Faith, over the "Souls" of men. If they were to concede to the Sole AUTHORITY of the Bible they would LOSE they would lose their WEALTH, PRESTIGE, and POWER. No more Satin $500 red slippers and $500 underwear! No more free Jet trips and fancy State Banquets. No more "hob nobbing" with Heads of State! How awful!

[@gch8810]

Trying to interpret the Bible properly still does not rule out the possibility of different interpretations. The fact of the matter is, interpreting the Bible in your own in futile and foolish.

[@fantasia55]

best to post essays on your own website

[@paulnavarro3822]

@@fantasia55 Are you the KZbin "comments length" Monitor? If so, please tell me, what is the limit on the amount of words one can use. If you are not the YT Monitor, then YOU are "out of bounds", not me.

[@michaelciccone2194]

What about the Pope ALLOWING HOLY COMMUNION to be given to pro abortion RC? Divorced and remarried RC cannot receive!!!! Panchamma idol worship at the Vatican Amazon Synod 2019 ! Doesn't this all go against the RC faith?

[@gch8810]

A bad Pope doesn’t nullify the truthfulness of the Catholic faith.

[@anng.4542]

​@@gch8810 Your comment is a perfect response. One year after you posted it, your words are more important than ever. God bless you for your faithfulness to the Church that Jesus founded!

[@jparks6544]

warning: useless revisionist history

[@gch8810]

Nah!