1958 is where it's at, such a clean, classic look!
@MikeSchneider-wz3ol Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the full comparisons. They’re both nice.
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@cyrusjalali1571 Жыл бұрын
Honestly when these trucks hit dealer lots you gonna see markups in the 20Ks+. No average person is gonna able to afford them and then once again Toyota will think no one wants them because sales are so low but it was all because dealers were screwing with the prices. I wish OEMs could ditch the dealer mafia and go to sell straight to customer business model like tesla.
@LivingRetirement Жыл бұрын
I will be waiting and ordering one directly from factory.
@stephengoodin9584 Жыл бұрын
Preach
@stephengoodin9584 Жыл бұрын
@@LivingRetirementhow does one do this?
@LivingRetirement Жыл бұрын
@@stephengoodin9584 my daily driver is a VW Golf Alltrack, and I went into the dealership and ordered one to be built to my specs. Granted, this was before Covid hit, during fall 2019. I received my car early in 2020, as I had to wait for it being built.
@AUav8r05 Жыл бұрын
@@LivingRetirementToyota doesn’t allow this. You have to get on a list with a dealer and their allocation is what you get to chose from. No such thing as custom factory order.
@brownhairydog6472 Жыл бұрын
Having worked in the auto industry I know how expensive and therefore difficult getting two sets of headlights signed off. Kudos to the designers for pushing through
@turkialjadani168 Жыл бұрын
Wdym?
@rf4790 Жыл бұрын
Can you expand on this?
@brownhairydog6472 Жыл бұрын
@@turkialjadani168 engineering design and testing costs alot of money. Getting something like headlights approved across all the different markets takes time and effort which means money. On top of that the tooling that's needed to make these parts costs hundreds of thousands of dollars. Then there's the cost of complexity which Toyota is famously good at managing. All in all having completely different sets of headlights adds a lot of cost which the bean counters would not have liked.
@srandyt2 Жыл бұрын
You have covered this far and above better than anyone else.
@calvinkang1224 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jon, do you feel the cargo space is significantly bigger than your 4runner?
@gladesowards Жыл бұрын
I'm curious about this as well. My hunch is the same or less if you don't have the tray in your 4Runn.
@paulelledge8977 Жыл бұрын
For $55k the premier Toyota off-roaders should come with 33s, MTM, MTS, and crawl control.
@MJ-fj9yv Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@paulelledge8977 Жыл бұрын
@nomenclature9607 Of course it comes with low range, and the locking diff is nice.
@alvinhang8721 Жыл бұрын
I agree. Unfortunately, 55K is considered to be affordable for a 4X4 today.
@AR-nz1yh Жыл бұрын
Chances are won’t be low 50 k
@mig4868 Жыл бұрын
@@alvinhang8721 the average Joe is slowly being phased out of the consumer landscape.
@J_Brian Жыл бұрын
Really like the headlights of the 1958, but the interior of the Land Cruiser is nice also. I like the AC vents being high for rear passengers especially with a car seat in the back to keep my son cool. Plus, the safety is great too being a larger vehicle & Toyota of course. Thinking about trading my Bronco Sport Badlands for a Land Cruiser. Only put 6500 miles on it in a year and a week now hopefully to keep it under 10k by next year once these become available. Even though the built time will take months.. the Big Bronco was something I was considering, but I’ve always wanted a Toyota and love what they’ve been doing in the Tacoma and now this.
@paul_t_kendall Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the info. Just hoping the dealers don’t get too greedy on the markups.
@Hobbies4Hire Жыл бұрын
Great job on the video as always Jon! Thanks for making it.
@GazerBeam420 Жыл бұрын
beautiful, i'll wait a few years to get one
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
id go 1958 grab my sleeping bag , YETI ,camp chair im ready for camping all I need , cool if it had grey steelies and white roof would be cool
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
Lets gooooooo
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Жыл бұрын
@@TRDJon cant what to see in person if I get one your invited to the camp out longo Toyota in El Monte is my preferred dealer no mark ups but wait and wait
@noctilucent7396 Жыл бұрын
What a lot of people aren't talking about is the secret weapon which is traveling with a power generator everywhere you go. This thing is going to be amazing for camping. Specifically, the land cruiser hybrid!!! 2400w!!! You can power so much!!!!
@philmcbride5576 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I have a 2021 LC! The new ones look nice, but the 200 is SOOOO comfortable after all day on the road or trail. V-8 baby!
@ericrodriguez380 Жыл бұрын
Those cloth seats look badass
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Жыл бұрын
Yeah they do! Looks like what was in the old 80s toyota trucks. Tweed like fabric.
@JStryker7 Жыл бұрын
The round headlights should be the only option
@shinjiro212 Жыл бұрын
The vents around the display screen on the 1958 version give it some real 1980s synth wave vibes. Cue Robotech soundtrack .
@riceman20 Жыл бұрын
I like the round lights.
@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix Жыл бұрын
Me too. The perfect one for me would be the nicer mid level blue with the white top with round lights, but, with the V6 from the GX.
@Batolocor22 Жыл бұрын
I like this engine set up, because now we can ask Toyota for a manual version Land Cruiser 😊, great video like always 👍
@LivingRetirement Жыл бұрын
You are talking my dream Land Cruiser here!!
@akshaypersad Жыл бұрын
manual with a hybrid setup?
@ro0ster648 Жыл бұрын
@@akshaypersad Toyota already filed for a patent on a system that is going to work in the manual for hybrids. They are working on manuals for both hybrids and EVs.
@paulgrenier2279 Жыл бұрын
I love the interior of the 1958. I wonder if you could order it with electronic front sway bar release
@thebeddoctor4273 Жыл бұрын
I just want to know if its overbuilt Luke every gen before it. Design to last 20 years in harsh environments. The steel and parts are much heavier duty. Did they continue the true heritage or go cheaper.
@sseilheimer396 Жыл бұрын
The tow hitch cover makes it look like the car has a dirty diaper...
@wamdaddy Жыл бұрын
I like this vehicle, a lot, the engine choice is what bugs me.
@waynewallace2061 Жыл бұрын
I just can't get passed the battery step-up in the back. I find it intrusive and a dealbreaker.
@tonyjackson86407 ай бұрын
That’s one of my primary concerns as well. Especially with 3 large dogs.
@tristanbishop34 Жыл бұрын
As long as they handle orders better than Ford, this will have a better launch than the Bronco in my opinion. As someone who ordered a Bronco and waited a year and half just to back out after test-driving it, I went with my gut and bought a 4Runner for its reliability and ruggedness. Very happy with my decision but in 5-7 years I cant wait to see where both 4Runner and Land Cruiser are at!
@valley2898 Жыл бұрын
Ford messed up Bronco orders. I wanted the 2-door so bad but lost interest given the wait. Hope Toyota makes 2-door for these land cruiser trims.
@J.Young808 Жыл бұрын
I really want to see what the First Edition looks like. That would be the one to get if you can keep the miles low otherwise I like the look of the 1958 front end best.
@dillonh321 Жыл бұрын
FE is supposed to be fully loaded but with the 58 front end.
@jancker06 Жыл бұрын
TRD PRO wheels would look great on this vehicle.
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
Oh yes they would
@TwinTurboPigeon Жыл бұрын
Is this vehicle larger than a 4Runner?
@FizzleWick1 Жыл бұрын
I have the same question! It honestly looks a bit smaller if not maybe the same. If it is the same why have the land cruiser and the 4 runner the same time?
@danduranucsb Жыл бұрын
@@FizzleWick1 Landcruiser is 3.5 inches longer and 8.4 inches wider. The 4Runner does have more ground clearance though
@MyCarsandProjects Жыл бұрын
@@danduranucsb Yeah these figure make it look like the 4Runner will still be the trail beast for Toyota. I keep hearing we aren't getting the "real" Land Cruiser.
@whereisjohnnow Жыл бұрын
with bigger AT tires and roof rack added to the 1958 it would be a nice one to take it out on the trail. I don't need all the luxury options.
@cogitozoo Жыл бұрын
I love the ‘58 edition. Hope we can get a chance for a carpet delete.
@georgefromiami Жыл бұрын
Hey Jon, another great video and content, one thing that I think nobody have notice.........Landcruisers dont have CHROME man, I love that about it.
@armandcasanare2366 Жыл бұрын
1958 Bare Bone , even " Better " more roon for personalize upgrades $$$, I'll buy it.
@matthewhale9655 Жыл бұрын
My wife uses the seats all in the way up. Me. All the way back. Wish i had manual seats in our newer cars, preferred the 2002 civic to modern non-memory power. Just so much slower
@Ng-cq4wq Жыл бұрын
I love the rounded headlights, will there be a trim that has the regular land cruiser interior ?
@enjoytheridedude Жыл бұрын
Definitely need the SDM if I was to Land Cruise….but my mind keeps wandering to the prospect of a daily GX550 Overtrail+ with the Mark Levinson kept pretty stock other than some BFG 35’s and a super low profile winch bumper and sliders. But again if I had to Land Cruise…definitely have to ball out and get the first edition.
@Superdada Жыл бұрын
Odd they put 33” tires on the GX Overtrail and smaller tires on the LC. Due to the engine and fit/finish, I’d opt for the Lexus.
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
Only for the US. Did you watch the global debut by Toyota on youtube? They had chunky off-road tires on the LC for the global debut video. watch?v=LwosZEZM9Xg
@bawintermage8351 Жыл бұрын
The Lexus is hideous, a paper bag butter face for sure.
@jml9550 Жыл бұрын
Lexus all day everyday. 3 Lexuses in my household
@ro0ster648 Жыл бұрын
33" tires on the Land Cruiser and First Edition. The 58 gets the smaller 32" and skinnier 245 width tires.
@jml9550 Жыл бұрын
Buy the 58, put another $20k on customization. Done.
@MyCarsandProjects Жыл бұрын
As a Ford guy, I'm still keeping my Badlands, but I think it's cool this is coming out. Although, I wish you could option one like my Badlands, 2 doors, manual and all the off road goodies without the sissy interior fancy stuff. My Badlands wasn't cheap mind you, but the way Ford did it, you could get all the stuff that made the Badlands a cool off-roader without having to upgrade to soccer mom gidgets. I don't have a larger screen, dual zone climate, heated seats or any of that stuff, it is as stripped as you can get. To get all the goodies on the LC, larger tires, rock rails, skid plates, better more durable seats, you have to click on the First Edition, which likely increases the price in a huge way. Again, can't wait to see them out on the trail in the next year or so, no doubt people will modify them like they do a Wrangler, Bronco and FJ.
@andrewwood4013 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible for a 6’ tall person to sleep in the rear interior with the seats tumbled?
@Burritosarebetterthantacos Жыл бұрын
After running trails in a v8 LC I just cant…just cant😮
@scottsong20 Жыл бұрын
2023 Toyota Tundra i-Force Max starts at $56,415. I can see the top end Land Cruiser costing near a Tundra Capstone ($80,000)
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
I’d say. 70’s. That’s to close to sequoia pricing
@scottsong20 Жыл бұрын
@@TRDJon I hope a Toyota gives us a Land Cruiser TRD Pro and Trail Hunter! That would be bad ass!
@FredYousefi Жыл бұрын
@TRDJon hello from Toronto. Great video. Do you know if the rear seats can be removed?
@joeblack1052 Жыл бұрын
Jon 55k Limited 4Runner is 50k V6 full time 4wd leather etc 5k extra for a diff lock and a hybrid assist turbo 4? It’s a rip off Jon
@sammyjammy6647 Жыл бұрын
Wait for the re-design 4Runner 2025 I bet you can get it fully loaded for one for the base price of this Land Cruiser 58
@joeblack1052 Жыл бұрын
@@sammyjammy6647 there is no value in this so called land cruiser they are trying charge premium for a name.
@sammyjammy6647 Жыл бұрын
@@joeblack1052 I’m going to withhold judgment until I see the off-road reviews
@joeblack1052 Жыл бұрын
@@sammyjammy6647 it has less ground clearance than a 4 runner and a longer wheelbase. So ramp over angle will be worse, approach and departure angle better than 4 runner. I would guess if anything on par with 4Runner with a diff lock. If it lacks kdss then could be worse performer than a trd off road. It’s an image thing. Jon will probably trade his 4R for it…😂
@joeblack1052 Жыл бұрын
@nomenclature9607 I have owned/driven toyotas for over 30 years Exclusively for 24 years.... Only ever driven a jeep once and I thought it was garbage as a general vehicle.. So there you go I know what a landcruiser is and I know what a prado is. I guess in the UK they call a prado a landcruiser....
@kevkev9168 Жыл бұрын
Great videos! On the new land cruiser. Any information on fuel capacity? How many gallons does it hold? Thanks
@partyplardy Жыл бұрын
I would lean towards the base model with cloth seats
@nathancruz9070 Жыл бұрын
The 58 with SDM and Land Cruiser front clip would be perfect! I’d be tempted to trade in my GX470
@jtalonrider4769 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful trucks, you think the top one will have the small fridge?
@MrPerrogaton Жыл бұрын
The higher one but with round lights!
@rrydinhigh245211 ай бұрын
"Land Cruiser" trim for me 🥰
@protectork98318 ай бұрын
What’s the price difference between trims
@TRDJon8 ай бұрын
No pricing yet
@alqersan Жыл бұрын
I hope both trims of prado will available in global market not only US
@BelchevKalin Жыл бұрын
Me too, and the 2.4 petrol Hybrid. the 2.8 diesel mild hybrid doesn't look too powerful.
@alqersan Жыл бұрын
@@BelchevKalin hybrid engines will be available only in US , others Market without hybrid
@BelchevKalin Жыл бұрын
@@alqersan Hybrid engines for Europe for sure, Toyota imports only hybrids here now. The question is which hybrid 2.8 diesel or 2.4t petrol.
@Pew_pewchronicles Жыл бұрын
The build quality of this new land cruisers. It seems to me they are more of a Toyota four runner than the quality and luxury of earlier model, Land Cruisers
@seymorefact4333 Жыл бұрын
😍 TRUE CONSUMER REVIEWS channel has the First Edition with lights on at night!
@andyhelfenstein7425 Жыл бұрын
I would prefer the 1958 but hope they will offer a second color with black cloth seats and black dash/trim etc? It's also hard to tell from the videos is the dash and doors plastic or soft touch the same as the main land cruiser line?
@johnwalker1547 Жыл бұрын
They should have offered the 58 with an optional soft top with removable doors. Probably would not have added that much more to the price and it would have given them a more broader market. They could have taken some of jeep and bronco customers!! Just an opinion!!
@daseteam Жыл бұрын
Being a European means that it will cost more here. I would take the 1958; I mean, how often am I going to adjust my driving seat? Plus it all adds weight. I don´t need hardcore and I don´t need luxury. PS: We also get a turbo diesel which will tow up to 7,716 lbs. I hope we get Steelies
@mario-sl6cz Жыл бұрын
They gotta lower the price on that 55k for a manual cloth seat truck smh should be 40k
@jml9550 Жыл бұрын
$40K? I buy 2 in cash
@tombrodzinski157 Жыл бұрын
First Edition if you can get one at MSRP. It will be an instant classic
@stephengoodin9584 Жыл бұрын
I mean, it’s just a roof rack, rock rails, and a skid plate …. Not even a special color
@tombrodzinski157 Жыл бұрын
@@stephengoodin9584 good point but I think it will be more than just those items.
@robrozek9265 Жыл бұрын
I could spend hours in that museum
@MJ-fj9yv Жыл бұрын
Days, here.
@ArthurCzerniak Жыл бұрын
Jon, do you have any information and what is going to happen with the 6th gen 4runner now?
@Paul_Okki Жыл бұрын
TrailHunter spec please! Wondering how the Landcruiser or FE overlaps with the GX550. how does it price/feature compare?
@elicooper4031 Жыл бұрын
I would get a 1958 if it has an option to add a front/trail camera.
@MJ-fj9yv Жыл бұрын
After market, plenty of options
@ConsistentlyAwkward Жыл бұрын
would love to know is Sway-Bar Disconnect is optional on 1958
@knee-mah Жыл бұрын
If we can upgarde the interior a bit like the screen to the 12 inch on the '58, then i'll take the '58
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@supercharged746 Жыл бұрын
Why isn’t there a TRD Pro trim?
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
Great question. I'm curious if for the 2025 year after the firs edtions are gone, if there will be a Pro trim.
@Intentsrig Жыл бұрын
Differential sizes? Front 8" or tundra 9"? Rear 8.75, 9.5 or 10.5"?
@Donkey808ify Жыл бұрын
Well it’s powered by the 2.4 4 cylinder so my assumption is that it has the smaller differentials
@trailrunnah8886 Жыл бұрын
@@Donkey808ifyYeah, but it's 465 foot pounds of torque. That's more than the 5.7 V8 makes. TFL did a video where they went underneath it, to me the rear diff looked pretty beefy, and that could be the reason why it only has 8.3 inches of ground clearance.
@Donkey808ify Жыл бұрын
@@trailrunnah8886 good point about the torque but I still think that they will use the same drivetrain that the new Tacoma will use unless the Land Cruiser ends up weighing significantly more than the Tacoma.
@mrard1 Жыл бұрын
Should I pay $66k for a 2017 Land Cruiser with 32k miles or save for the new one?
@niferous1 Жыл бұрын
So the more basic model has LESS off road capability? I hope the sway bar disconnect is at least an option on the base models.
@lynnevietri5484 Жыл бұрын
Will you do a video on the third option?
@TRDJon Жыл бұрын
When I see it yes.
@jonganaylago4139 Жыл бұрын
I like the 1958 lc
@dand2334 Жыл бұрын
One comment and one question…what were they thinking when they “tacked on” the volume knob to the dash, I think it looks poorly designed, and my question…where will the 4Runner sit in the new price line and model line?
@danielc3510 Жыл бұрын
I guess I am in the minority but I like the rectangular lights better. The stock wheels are terrible though.
@Bigsephx Жыл бұрын
It's a Hipster Highlander. Not a LandCruiser. Hybrid engine (only option) and driver assist/robodriving (only option) ruins it for a lot of people. But I'm sure some dudes with manbuns will feel cool riding down the road in this sipping their soy lattes.
@timalan7406 Жыл бұрын
If the LC 1958 is $55K, I can't see the LC being more than $2-3K more and the LC FE being more than $65K- given the difference in options. I'll take the middle, LC version.
@MN.29 Жыл бұрын
Based on the pictures I was looking at looks like first edition comes standard with the pano moonroof. Probably a package option for the mid trim lc
@Big_Bruski Жыл бұрын
I love it!
@WazZappening Жыл бұрын
I spotted a Jeff Teague in the wild at 4:47
@Jschreck5 Жыл бұрын
@toyota please add a 3rd row in the First Edition. Thank you!
@stephengoodin9584 Жыл бұрын
I’d like to know more about this “mustard” color
@TacticalTrainer223 Жыл бұрын
Any idea when we’ll see the First Edition?
@2Fish1Net Жыл бұрын
The only thing missing is front straight axle 😔
@sevendewey Жыл бұрын
And a V8
@d0min0danc1ng Жыл бұрын
Toyota DOES make it.. Round headlights, solid front axle even factory snorkel..is called 79 series landcruisers. Sold around the world except United States 🙄
@craigbutler623 Жыл бұрын
That huge hatch looks like a pain to use in a garage .
@rbb1111 Жыл бұрын
What’s bigger this or 4 runner ?
@rbb1111 Жыл бұрын
Also have they shown the first edition yet ?
@teleandtwin65 Жыл бұрын
A big no with only 4cyl.
@pauloramirez8216 Жыл бұрын
If only Toyota built them like the Landcruiser 76 series. Those are a beauty, and they look like they are built very well for offroad. These look like soccer mom SUV's. They look cheap and ugly.
@Joe-be3pw Жыл бұрын
Overpriced, bad powertrain, at 55k+ why not jump to a GX Lexus?
@centermass3454 Жыл бұрын
What do you estimate the fuel economy will be for city and highway?
@AUav8r05 Жыл бұрын
On Toyota site is says 27 combined estimate which is a huge leap from the previous gens
@centermass3454 Жыл бұрын
@@AUav8r05 Agreed. My 2011 4R I drove 123K miles and well familiar with the lack of mileage. I feel reg. gas could be around $5 gal. next Winter and I would like the City and Highway MPG, before I commit. I don't think it was a good idea for full time 4WD, my 4R was part time 4WD. less than 1% of my driving is in 4WD, so why reduce the mileage the other 99% of my driving.? Toyota brags about the off road ability of the LC, but then puts all season tires on it so it will bet better gas mileage for their marketing. That is the only downside for me on the Land Cruiser. I found a dealer who has already sold 8 LC since the reveal and he will do full sticker price with me with no dealer mark up. With those terms, I will take it. I can't keep waiting endlessly for the Gen 6 4R to come out.
@AUav8r05 Жыл бұрын
@@centermass3454 I’m looking forward to buying either the GX or the LC, but leaning LC due to the hybrid setup and price. I just bought a new Ford Lightning this year so I’ll probably wait a year or two for the dust to settle and the craze to hopefully slow down before getting one. I love my EV, but don’t need the full size truck. I had a Lexus GX before the truck and before that a 16 4Runner Trail. They are perfect size vehicles for daily use. I’ve been holding out for the next 4Runner, but the LC honestly ticks all the boxes I was hoping the next 4Runner would be. This leaves me confused and curious what they will do with the 4Runner. I really hope they don’t radically change the design.
@alexsystems2001 Жыл бұрын
If I were interested in one… 1958 is the way to go.
@brianthompson3809 Жыл бұрын
How flat is the back with the seats folded down? Hoping mostly flat so can be slept in comfortably
@Richard-xv7yf Жыл бұрын
They don't fold flat
@mikekay213 Жыл бұрын
With the Landcruiser the next gen 4runnrr may not come for globally they are similar . Maybe they keep current gen and bring a smaller offroader.
@JollyFlys Жыл бұрын
55k a lil too much, id rather go tacoma trd off road for 10k less
@diemes5463 Жыл бұрын
The 58 looks better
@yurenquan777 Жыл бұрын
I make deposit on it. they ask me to choose the trim and color and not allow to change order also no details for package.
@chrisflores4788 Жыл бұрын
Budget and $55,000 in the same sentence 😂
@arlofs Жыл бұрын
Seems to me that the 4Runner will essentially be an SW4 built for the US market.
@JJ-mc8lu Жыл бұрын
Is it just me but does this car look old already just after a few days!
@juanhidalgo70439 ай бұрын
I was excited to see the new model! But no for me! Toyota needs an SR5 or V6 model! Else look at Lexus! For me 4Runner as I can get the V6. Growing up we had only Land Cruiser at the farm! Too bad only hybrid options…
@est189 Жыл бұрын
Still waiting to see the '24 4Runner....
@makatron Жыл бұрын
No vehicle over 50k should have manual seats, I don't care the marketing gimmick they use to justify it. I'm sure the one with the most basic options would go for a bit under 65k.
@stayconsistentandhumble8463 Жыл бұрын
$55k with cloth/manual seats and no power liftgate?? Not sure I’m with that Toyota 😂🤷♂️. I’m also not the intended audience lol. I will pass. Great video and awesome job as usual.
@sammyjammy6647 Жыл бұрын
I had a 21 RAV4 with a power liftgate, and I could tell that thing will most likely break at some point and it was also too slow for my tastes. Trust me, you’re better off with a manual liftgate that’s one less maintenance item you have to worry about.
@jhonrutger3508 Жыл бұрын
mid 55k range🙄 we all know that's not going to happen its still high but the price will jump for "market adjustment"