Comparing the effectiveness of whey, casein, and other protein sources for driving muscle growth

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This clip is from episode 299 ‒ Protein: muscle protein synthesis optimization, quality sources, quantity needs, and the importance of resistance training with Luc van Loon, Ph.D. Luc is an internationally renowned expert in skeletal muscle metabolism.
In this clip, they discuss:
- What are the differences between whey and casein protein?
- How do the use cases differ between whey and casein?
- How much protein can you absorb from one meal and how does protein source affect this metric?
- And more
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[@R900DZ]

This is really great info , thanks

[@HalfLapJoint]

I'd love to know how yeast protein powder compares to whey.

[@seanjohal7]

I have been having 100 grams of protein, OMAD for years, with cycling on and off fasting. Lifestyle and work hours forced this way of eating, and it works for me. I never knew of extra benefits, and always thought I would stop this way of eating, but here I am still doing it, and getting results. I never talk about it to everyone, because not everyone thinks like us on here. We are still in a misinformation infested society. Somethings turn out for the best. Quality of protein matters, and as with everything being healthy is a expensive trip still.

[@ilcomendante]

Misinformation infested? A much better description is that people are biased, and so becomes research, information etc.

[@Mind2MotionGolf]

What about egg white powder?

[@HakuCell]

6:36 no anabolic response after a vegan meal, while massive anabolic response after a ominovorous meal of equal calories and protein.

[@user-mr9yy3yf9q]

Be interested to learn of the qualities of liquid, pre-digested protein packets like Frog Fuel and Pro T.

[@someguyusa]

You should do studies on higher amounts of protein consumption under things like OMAD. Assuming western standard meal times is an irrational bias for optimal human reaults. Humans certainly have not shared a 3x daily meal schedule across history.

[@DILFDylF]

It is not irrational to assume that humans eat more than one time a day. The fact that you have to specify OMAD, or any other type of low frequency eating, is self evident that it's not normal, and even if it WERE normal, it's likely not optimal for hypertrophy, so you're off base either way.

[@Mee0tchy]

But you're making assumptions with words like "likely" and "normal". I think it would be nice to have more studies on OMAD to offer some real insight into whether it is detrimental. Up until this interview I was convinced that spreading protein intake out over the day was superior, now I'm not so sure.

[@alimckay3278]

Is there a difference between males and females, particularly as women lose their estrogen and its effects on muscle protein synthesis?

[@reallythere]

Why is casein so bad in taste when in powder form but it's 80 percent in milk

[@ShrinkiesWife]

There was research done on Casein by Dr Colin Campbell. IIRC, his research raised concerns re: casein. One of the other issues with casein, is that it’s a factor in what makes dairy products ‘taste good’.

[@reallythere]

@@ShrinkiesWife yet pure casein powder is bitter and horrid...odd

[@amethndiaye8322]

I thought it was Jocko Willik 😂…Nice thumbnail clickbait trick

[@Skinnyriver]

Ha ha that’s why I clicked

[@Joseph1NJ]

Maybe the YT algorithms are too aggressive feeding me these protein videos. But I'm starting to think protein for these YT influencers are like pizza vidoes for food tubers, they bring the clicks. There's nothing new here folks, move along, move along.

[@user-fv1jn1gw5w]

Summary?

[@user-wc1em7pc2p]

This is a 9 minute clip, watch it yourself.

[@JohnSmith-vy4lh]

People who need to take more protein, like cancer suffers , should eat organic eggs and organic hemp seeds.

[@quantumfx2677]

So should men when they get older. I definitely had to increase protein and being in my 50s it's made a huge difference to going stronger than ever.

[@osint6372]

@@quantumfx2677 hOW MANY GRAMS per day ? based on your weight.

[@rubenmatossoto6801]

That study seems to have missed something important. Why jumping from 25g to 100g? Does 45g would have lower protein synthesis than 100g? 🤡

[@osint6372]

EAT FOOD NOT POWDER...!!!!!!

[@beardy7124]

Ill eat whatever fits my goals.

[@DILFDylF]

Protein powder is literally food. Maybe if you laid off those other powders you'd be more sensible. Hey-oooooo

[@adamz.5844]

​@@DILFDylFDon't you tell Doctor Rockso how to live his life, B-B-B-BABY.

[@osint6372]

@@TruthOnly24 Powders affect the liver....There is no need for powders. I eat organic food and grass fed everything......A single Turkey burger made at home is 21 Grams of protein....If I add two eggs to that I get to 33 grams....That's plenty for me....

[@davidneal6920]

I don’t eat powder. I snort it. Awesome pre workout

[@patricio3841]

Adult's should not be drinking that amounts of lactose. Both costs sisyemic inflammation though out the body, especially if your an over 30 lifters.

[@laza6141]

Cheese is king.

[@R900DZ]

What amount?

[@celerywarrior6493]

Exercise causes temporary systemic inflammation too. Better get rid of it.

[@laza6141]

@@celerywarrior6493 I can't believe that some people still shit on dairy products , if you are lactose intolerant i get it , but if you're not it's a great source of protein.

[@rickjones5399]

​@@celerywarrior6493well that's where you gotta use your brain to learn where to set limits on what things