Confronting Techlead About Everything (As A Millionaire)

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DISCLAIMER: Hey everyone, we understand that not everyone is happy and approving about this episode, and we understand that some of you have critical things to say. I wanted to make it clear that when it comes to Techlead, as well as any other guest we have on, it should not be confused as a personal endorsement, nor is this a recommendation to follow. We enjoy having guests on the show to share their perspective, challenge their beliefs, and share our own thoughts. Sometimes we will disagree with the subject matter, and we disapprove of certain choices, so we do our best to be critical and allow new discussions to take place. BUT PLEASE do your own research and due diligence, and do not confuse a conversation with an endorsement of an individual. We believe there was some good information shared, but just like anyone we speak with - you should proceed at your own risk and take everything with a grain of salt. We will continue to read the comments you share. Thank you so much!

[@Hythlodaeus69]

Haters gonna hate. This guy sucks, but who cares. Like you said, it’s a conversation. That being said, one of you (jack or graham) needs to be more of a bad-cop. If someone says some disrespectful stuff like this guy does, pop off a little 😂 throw some shade back. Some bridges are worth burning

[@eg3961]

Unsubbed at the fact that you put him on this channel. He lost respect in the tech scene many years ago for being a scam artist. After his worthless scam in the crypto space, f' you for still giving him any attention on this channel.

[@jetjet6560]

If TechLead was a dunce, I would understand the cop out of "His intentions were good"...TechLead is a smart guy, who knew to leverage his audience and scam them for quick personal gain. "I know he beat up his wife, but we're allowed to have a difference in opinion!"

[@Maliksamuels33]

Graham, giving a scammer a platform AND not calling them out on their scams is absolutely an endorsement. You’re not getting backlash because you have folks with “different views” on topics, you’re getting backlash for uncritically platforming a scammer. You should really delete this one.

[@dondatrader5609]

@@Hythlodaeus69 bruh exactly this shit is ridiculous he just sat on the podcast saying a whole bunch of nothing .

[@AmateurSuperFan]

"Jack... Jack... you're poor... let the millionaires speak" lmao

[@marcusaureliusregulus2833]

@Censored Censored 🤣🤣

[@izzatarif9686]

Timestamp?

[@AmateurSuperFan]

@@izzatarif9686 1:40:20

[@jazzymichael]

😂😂😂

[@helmutalexanderrubiowilson6835]

Hahahahahahh so funny

[@davadh]

The upside of TechLead 's conversation is that he makes you think with or against him, for the better or the worst; versus most other influencer who has the same talking points that learn from watching other influencers on KZbin.

[@skjoldgames]

People that don't understand where TechLead is coming from with this whole "there's something bigger than work" and his almost reckless "don't save money, live life to the fullest" probably haven't lost anything catastrophic in their lives. You have to remember he lost his wife who he thought he'd spend the rest of his life with and he lost his son. He basically chose defeat rather than drag them both through the mud of a futile legal battle and came out the other end wondering what it was all for. I can relate because I was 12 years old when my mom died in a car wreck and my dad was never a part of my life. Early on I was faced with the questions of what's really important, and it was at that age that I realized, among many things, money is worthless unless it's used as a tool for living life with a purpose.

[@sslvsme5763]

Here you are now… commentating on a KZbin video

[@Redwhite4life]

@@sslvsme5763ROFL 🤣

[@Mrdestiny17]

he's not gonna fuck you bro

[@gLitCheRR44]

and?@@sslvsme5763

[@jakubliska4730]

@@sslvsme5763 he understood whats life about at 12yo, what have you acomplished? being sassy? lol

[@appl3.149]

Listening to Techlead is like going to a grocery store. You just take what you need and leave what you don't. Some of it are good and some are just his opinions.

[@farmerbrett8660]

Well put

[@olamidegaffar7269]

Exactly!

[@94Dza]

everything he said is his own opinion, that obvious, and thats what you do with all opinions and even facts of life. tech lead is a genius and it goes without saying that most people wont agree with him, but that also doesnt mean he is wrong

[@young9534]

The problem is when he starts scamming/doxxing people. It’s one thing to just have bad takes on certain topics, it’s another thing to actually screw people over

[@appl3.149]

@@young9534 he did say if he wants to another $1 mil, he just need to make $1 mil coins.

[@Jerry.Luna63]

I agree with the Techlead on you can’t save your way to wealth. Actively investing in your skills, your business, your experiences is the way to build wealth

[@jso19801980]

maybe in the 1990s you could...interest rate was 17.5% here in australia, now its 0

[@GK-op4oc]

You can save your way to capital for which a smaller quantity is worth more during an adult's younger years

[@michaeljohnson1818]

How did you become wealthy?

[@bjcj123]

​​@@jso19801980this didn't age well.

[@lorenzozapaton4031]

If you have 20 million dollars with 1% interest rate, you can make 200K annually, that will give you a nice, quiet life in 90% parts of the planet. And I am being pessimistic in that interest rate. The point is to get those 20 million dollars first, and no, saving won't get you there.

[@screwcollege8474]

You went very soft with the questions. I was expecting tougher questions considering this guy pumped and dumped a crypto on his fans!

[@josesixx8197]

This is still graham's friend you know

[@ambana86]

Did he really do a pump and dump crypto coin?

[@darkwowpg]

@@ambana86 Yeah i think graham had a video about him.

[@josesixx8197]

@@ambana86 yes and nft rug pull and beat his wife, etc

[@paulog7411]

When did he dump?

[@BrodieThatDood]

I was listening on apple podcast and felt the need to come to YT & check comments of this episode to make sure it wasn’t just me. Glad we’re all on the same page lmao

[@Gabriel._.5]

Same here lol. Especially after he disrespected jack😂

[@davadh]

LOL, he's too good, you had to come

[@enviosinterdimencionales8612]

agree techlead is awesome.

[@on9francisyu]

it is true. i love to read the comments too.

[@Userdoesnotexit]

nah i like techlead.. he is fun to watch and listen to

[@tienwang6141]

To be honest this episode allow viewers to dive much deeper to the way Techlead think and his logic and vision about his life with this world. I 've never see Techlead so calm, sincere and non-fake talking about how he thinks, why he thinks so, even on his own channel(relatively! He's such a dxxx talking on his own channel). Good episode ! And a majority of his opinions are quite down-to-earth. Bravo!

[@kayrealist9793]

Humility is very important. Becoming wealthy often leads people to face the opportunity to learn about humility on a deeper level. Without it, you can get over your head and forget that it took a whole society to get you where you are.

[@anthonyk9431]

Eat the meat and spit out the bones. There’s always value to be taken from a conversation. If it’s not the information itself, it could be a lesson of what or what not to do. Take what’s good, leave what’s not. Eat the meat, spit out the bones.

[@nestorlopez4284]

wow. haven't enjoyed a conversation like this in a while. great job everyone!!

[@kuroibuta]

My friend had the same situation. Got married in Japan, had one kid, relationship got bad, his wife ran away, he tried to fight it but found he had 0 power here. He ended up going back to his country. After a couple of years, they got back to communicating and he is back in Japan now but I feel like the same thing will happen. He is also a big KZbinr! I am also married with kids here but luckily my wife and get on together.

[@danceprometheus]

This man is next level and has new perspectives-- "the challenge of deploying money."

[@n8likesmath]

Loved watching this, thanks for having this conversation

[@remixisthis]

I knew a guy who got a divorce in Japan with his wife who took the child. He was an utterly broken man. Conflict resolution in Japan is incredibly frustrating and often one-sided

[@BoeserSimon]

Also thank you Iced Coffee hour for beeing Open and showing differernt perspectives. Im a new Fan of you guys. Keep on the great work!!

[@Casgains]

I can't tell if Techlead is being sarcastic or not sometimes

[@theodoresmith3353]

If no one ever knows if you’re serious then you can always fall back on “oh it was a joke” even if you were being serious.

[@tomtesting99]

Everyone always tried to extend their 15 seconds of fame.

[@rbjk]

@@theodoresmith3353 right on point.

[@darlantro]

This allows manipulative people to always be testing boundaries and escape by gaslighting. 'I was joking, you can't seriously be upset, you're so sensitive!'

[@SevenHunnid]

I review weed products on my KZbin channel as my job, coulda been a dentist or something but that ain’t lit💨💨

[@AlphaCrucis]

Really enjoyed the back and forth on this one. TechLead the Tech Lead is a polarizing personality, but that's part of why I find him so interesting.

[@JDMSpecYugo]

Feels like Techlead won this argument 100% to be honest. Good interview though!

[@moneroxmr2130]

It's amazing how he talks and talks about life advises like he's the wisest person in the world yet when he's asked about his obvious wrongdoings he responds like a child and feels zero accountability for his actions, when he said people are irrational I guess he was describing himself.

[@borisjoffe]

A lot of that wisest person in the world stuff was sarcasm

[@marcusaureliusregulus2833]

I find the "people are irrational" part very true

[@Mr.Caligos]

No, he was describimg irrational leftists putting labels on people and not actually do anything good for humanity. There were no wrongdoings.

[@arctic1439]

He is being sarcastic af most of the time. Even Graham mentions that TL is sarcastic a lot.

[@94Dza]

he is playing a character half of the time btw

[@3DPrinterAcademy]

Thought this might be interesting to share: 2.4k likes 4.8k dislikes (you can get a chrome extension to see dislikes) updated 4/12/22 8:38 AM PST

[@FarozCS]

1.2k:1.9k now

[@cheezycheddar211]

1.3k to 2.3k now.

[@radfoo72]

Yeah buddy! Real one's are weighing in!

[@tomtesting99]

Graham doesnt' care. He'll do anything for views.

[@lisettegarcia]

@@tomtesting99 no, for money

[@Ari-kd5mq]

2:30 jack trying not to laugh has me on the floor 🤣😭

[@Pyrozen69]

LMAO

[@Sonofjonn]

dude had to swallow it down, lol

[@j.a.c4459]

My favorite thing about these is when Graham talks about his aquarium and his love of fish. It is the most wholesome thing I’ve ever heard and I love it

[@manictiger]

Graham really is wholesome. He's one of the few people I can listen to and feel pure honesty from. Him and Mike Glover are two of my favorite KZbinrs. Humble, honest and straight to the point when it counts. One teaches finances and the other teaches tactics. I aspire to become as good a teacher as them some day. I shall work toward it.

[@GandalfPassing]

and then TL goes on to say, right to his face, that he wouldn't want to commit to maintaining that. so disrespectful to say that about someone's passion and do it in a way that exhibits no empathy for others.

[@on9francisyu]

hey fishes are amazing.

[@samuelglover7685]

@@on9francisyu And they have more interesting personalities than "TechLead" ever will. (Gotta put "TechLead" in quotes because it's important to remember that the scumbag's been fired from just about every gig he ever lied his way into.)

[@shanegreen1137]

Thanks for having techlead on the show guys. It was some fun content. You should start an iced coffee coin with him and you should have your coffee come with a free coin.

[@ExiaMyers]

I LOVED THIS EP

[@anthonyscott5134]

Graham, this is not only the third ICH I’ve watched, but also watched in its entirety. I’ve been a subscriber of yours since I was first turned on to you and your video channels through Meet Kevin, who I rarely ever watch anymore. It seems, that with now watching these ICH videos, I am now, and I kind of cringe to say it, a huge fan of yours! Watching your interactions with these very intelligent people, and how you handle your disagreement with certain points they may bring up, how you’re not afraid to say “no” or to infer that you don’t agree with what they are saying, like with Michael and his reasoning about the Chinese housing market, is wonderful to watch. This interview made me respect you even more! The interaction between you and Techlead where he was making very assumptive statements about why you do what you do, and your responses was very insightful as to your character! Anyway, I’m a fan! Bravo and keep doing what your doing! You’re inspiring a lot of people, one of which is me!

[@afarro]

It’s amazing how insightful and informed Techlead is when he talks about others and outside subjects and how shallow he sounds when he talks about himself ..

[@noseefood1943]

Sign of typical narcissist

[@spudbencer7179]

He is hilarious imo. A great act

[@theiceman8190]

I think it’s intentional and is meant to be satire. It’s definitely dry humor so it can be difficult for some to understand.

[@space_btwn_notes]

I think he also does not want to reveal / has not connected to himself emotionally in a deeper way. Very typical of Silicon Valley techies (I am one). Learning how to multithread does not teach you how to dance, for instance

[@martinlilly]

I think your best podcasts are with people who challenge your views/beliefs and can provide your viewers with a different perspective. Enjoyed this episode thoroughly.

[@sebastianotrunfio5]

such an episode should be dedicated to the research of why he created and made that bad coin (sponsored by you and others among other things) that created several problems for the creators (including you graham) and that potentially made them lose part of the public trust in you. what he created is an image damage to a group of creators who for years have built their careers on youtube. however, the effort you put into not shaming a person like that deserves a like.

[@justindeeman]

I can appreciate this episode! Thanks guys.

[@rainbowcheeze99]

I'm glad you had this guy on. Thanks for the video

[@D4ydream3rD3vin]

Very interesting interview. I often watch both Graham's and Techlead's videos. To see both methods and point of views being brought out on the same stage is quite entertaining. Both sides has very good points. Both requires hard work and grind. One was saving and investing, and the other was go hard and make impact until you get rich. Listening to Techlead, he has some really interesting points and way of thinking. Difficult to dissect and understand at times, but once you get through all the semantics you'd realize that while it feel very cold, he makes tons of sense and may actually be hurting deep inside. On Graham's side it feels quite wholesome and warm. There may be numerous ways towards wealth. But every single way requires hard work, dedication, and actually doing it.

[@calebpaddack7450]

It seems odd to me that you brushed over the fact that Techlead basically said "my wife kidnapped my child and it sounds like a lot of work to get the child back from this insane woman so I'm just not gonna try"

[@AONTrappy]

Humans are not conditioned to be rational and Techlead is very rational which makes him hard to understand. We all think with emotion and then logic, as an example here I think that techlead has lost a lot of his human emotion. There is no right or wrong answer to any situation if you really think about it.

[@MichelePonte]

@@calebpaddack7450 no foreigner historically ever won against the Japanese system. You’ll hear million stories like his

[@calebpaddack7450]

@@MichelePonte if she can kidnap the kid, so could I. If I can get someone killed for 5k in most cities I could get a kid back for 50k no problem.

[@Am-Not-Jarvis]

@@AONTrappy Was TechLead being rational when he doxxed a 19-year-old kid for calling out his BS?

[@rankup5832]

Graham confronting TechLead is like me confronting my 1 yr old when she makes a mess.

[@rileymayo1191]

this was exactly what I was thinking 😂

[@on9francisyu]

haha it is so true.

[@ronswanson1410]

This wasn’t a confrontation

[@Userdoesnotexit]

wat you talking about...???

[@clarmso]

Thank you for including Bailey's cameo in this episode! A much welcoming break inserted.

[@jcnlaw]

Seasoned divorce lawyer here. I counsel ambitious guys to STAY SINGLE for the reasons explained by Tech Lead in this video. You can still have terrific intimate relationships without inviting state law into your life and finances. Stay safe out there!

[@sabrinapr]

so much love for tech-lead.

[@AbiNephilim]

This was a really good interview. As someone in the tech industry, having followed tech youtube for years, I've followed Tech Lead in the past, saw watched as multiple situations unravelled and then unfollowed him due to the many shifty situations that he was involved in. This was years ago so to see this video crop up was a surprise to me, ultimately Tech Lead does have some solid points, ones I agree with and of course others I disagree with. In terms of tech he is doing what I want to eventually get to; make a load of apps that make money - but of course minus the shady bits - so it was interesting to hear. I certainly won't be going back to his videos ever again, however I still appreciate this interview and really like the fact that you guys are taking guests and interviewing with an unbiased view as everyone can learn something from most perspectives but also should be reminded to always think for yourself and not blindly follow anyone no matter their status.

[@AbiNephilim]

@@jonsl2000 Working for a better quality of life isn't shady, screwing others over to get it is, gaslight others is also, both of which Tech Lead seems to have experience with. From my view Graham and Jack are not shady, they are two people that enjoy working hard, I've not once seen any situation where Graham has pulled what Tech Lead has and I've been following him for almost a decade. I'm not religious so I don't believe in heaven but you can believe what you wish. Becoming wealthy to me is having enough money to enjoy the short time we have on earth without the stress of wondering when you'll next get to eat or how long you'll have a roof over your head for. Money is just a tool made up by man kind, it shouldn't be seen as more than that.

[@AbiNephilim]

@@jonsl2000 Those are some pretty blanket statements 😂 You can't tarnish all with the same brush, that's not how the world works. Every individual has different intentions, judge on a person's character not their profession.

[@reagan.wallis]

I really enjoyed this conversation. I enjoyed the fact that he had different perspectives that challenged your own opinions. Bring on more guests like this.

[@xanmancan]

What ugly dog chewers

[@JoyNUND]

This a nice well put comment

[@mignoncobra]

I was laughing right along with you guys. I remember watching you interview the Techlead several years ago and it's so heart warming to see how far you both have come!

[@GDBOYFilms]

The contradictions are insane. I love how he rejects materialism and says you only need a cup of coffee to be happy... but Gucci is trash, all cars suck compared to Lambo, constantly touting his wealth but never revealing anything specific about it. Every chance he can to leverage himself above Graham and Jack he takes it because it feels good. Even the fact that he's older haha, but won't reveal his age. TL is an extremely insecure man, and likely a covert narcissist.

[@miguelruan444]

He even said in this interview that he has no friends. Makes sense. He seems like a douche.

[@toninosparada917]

I agree mostly, but I would still like people to distinguish sarcasm from the rest.

[@GDBOYFilms]

@@toninosparada917 yeah I had another comment about how the ego was pretty funny even tho it’s 90% serious and 10% joking

[@toninosparada917]

@@GDBOYFilms haha could be right

[@manictiger]

Most narcissists are covert. That's how they get into social interactions in the first place.

[@MrUnamazing]

Coffeezilla would be a great guest on the pod.

[@gc-yt6627]

I second this

[@CodyEngel]

I third this. I’ll resubscribe if they do that.

[@420blazinOG]

He would rather have people that create controversies because they live a lie rather then Coffeezilla who would call Graham out on his bullshit

[@TravelingTaco86]

Coffeezilla and Techlead together at the same time discussing techleads token lol

[@jetjet6560]

shoulda had him on this one as a surprise +1

[@TheLegendSpeaker]

“Sometimes it’s not worth fighting for” I was surprised he said this about his own child!

[@derek8315]

Agreed how can you say that

[@WestonNey]

His child is just an object to him

[@fergman300]

Im not.. He is right, and thats exactly the emotions the lawyers and legal system profit on from people the believe otherwise.

[@zzKirus]

His claim is that his wife framed him in a domestic violence situation. He had no chance of getting rights to the child. Would have been an endless money pit. If techlead got partial custody, it would be such a burden on the child. Probably best to just let it go and let the kid grow up thinking TL is the bad guy.

[@neflsanker8174]

It wasn't about his child, it was about dealing with his "Hard to Deal with" ex wife.

[@RaynardL]

One of the best podcasts to date! Just jam packed with insights and the constructiveness with Graham just made it next level (:

[@readbooks6370]

31:51 podcaster didn't deserve to sit next to teach lead. I have feeling that he is one of the greatest thinkers of our times. He have really fresh new ideas, interesting and helpful frames, great topics. He didn't afraid to talk straight about things no one talks about. And he has deep artists touch to him, he has unic level of is inspiration under his sacrasm. Unic guy, really live that guy so much, looks like he is honest and opened about everything. Legit person. 31:51 it absolutely feels like insult. I would like 1:51:18 sec listen to only teach lead. I think he needs to write a book. Eyes opening guy.

[@DayoAworunse]

Not sure why the topic was danced around an hour but... Thankfully Alex said it directly and got it out of Graham. If you were to die in a week, what would you do? The answer of *working* was gone. You can always obtain *money.* You can minimize impacts on your *health* as much as you can. Your *YOUTH* & *TIME* will never be something you can get back. Life is about experiences & relationships you've built along the way. When your life flashes before your eyes are you thinking about working or the people and experiences you had? But hey, some people just love working and can't fault them for that. If its fun for them, its fun for them!

[@jamesburns679]

Also wish someone called out Graham when he said he's not into consumerism.

[@ty6512]

@@jamesburns679 when did he say that

[@robertadams3925]

Yea I would expect this whole chat to side with the interviewer, but this was a terrible interview. Techlead makes some interesting points, whether he's a scammer or not, but every single point was disagreed upon, and the conversation wasn't allowed to go anywhere.

[@rorymilsom1491]

@@jamesburns679 he's not... he's the most. frugal guy

[@HenryJamesCharts]

This is the best one yet.

[@user-yp8ob3xz5o]

I saved money, despite the ridicule from my younger cousins. When my dad went through a tons of medical issues and with incredibly limited insurance, I was able to help him. I also was able to fix my roof when when a small part of it caved. I was also able to fix my bathroom when bad plumbing caused moldy wood to become termite food. Life throws surprises at me every now and again, and I always found my savings to be invaluable. Techlead holds conflicting ideas. He says to not take risks, but he takes tons of risks. He says to work hard and hold a job and side gigs and hustle, but he doesn't believe in working too hard. He shows how important it is to make lots of money, but at then preaches against making money.

[@kooljc7]

best episode thus far... nice work guys

[@prestontucker1687]

Every time Graham uses the word "confronting." It always makes me laugh.

[@jayc7612]

Me too, he won’t confront

[@VinceMorin]

Same 😅

[@brandonharper4109]

THIS. In soy-boy land "confront" means "Tip toe and ask softball questions so I don't make anyone uncomfortable or lose subs".

[@yazctr]

Agreed! lil 5ft chode couldn't confront a fly!

[@madimakes]

@A.I. yes. This current age wants blood. It’s lazy and expected. Graham has little to prove and shows it. Solid showing.

[@hmd6202]

Does the majority of the viewing audience not realize a chunk of what Techlead says is complete and utter sarcasm!!?

[@PrimeNPC]

A chunk? It's the majority of the cake lol

[@utlinhdang6414]

this video just like a comparison between someone goes through so much of real life experiences get fired, divorce, kids,trials etc,... and two young man with youth, hope and dream. hope techlead keeps his positivity, back before his divorce he was just like the other two guys if u watched his old videos

[@kellyja8]

"Life is a car crash in slow motion.' Truer words have never been uttered.

[@maneeshjulka]

TechLead, I concurrent your thought process as I think and live on your kind of philosophy. More of a minimalist. As a type A (an Investor, Healthcare provider, an entrepreneur) I have been through a similar phase, Just sold my exotic car and ( other possessions). Downsizing investment portfolio, minimizing things that take too much time. People are wired very differently, they reach their peak and valley of life journey at different times. I definitely am enjoying parting with busi-ness of money-making and having more time on my hand. My best advice is - that one must identify their own Maslows Pyramid, 20 to 30% cushion over one's own Maslow's hierarchy of needs should put one in the best mode. Split that cushion properly, 65% in fun and 35% invest. Don't compromise with the cost opportunity. In the last three decades, money craving has become a priority over true enjoyment of life. I question, why many rich people have more miserable personal lives (Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Trump, and the list is unending). The new world of fake entrepreneurship has shown and portrayed fake success of money by showing what Jeff B , Bill, G etc did but you never have interviewed their wives and children or heard the other side ........things are not as glittery as their wives and kids would say. Pick your POISON wisely. Graham wouldn't it be good to interview their spouses and children and of course, if they would be willing to give their honest inside.

[@s.flanders]

I haven't watched the entirety of this podcast, but it's pretty clear that TechLead has struggled with some of life's bigger questions while Graham has found enjoyable activities which serve as useful distractions from facing those same questions. But he will inevitably realize that there's more to life, and he may end up regretting not getting on with it sooner. TechLead made a good point that most of what Graham does is read the news and spin his wheels, when financial security/success largely boils down to fairly simple advice. But accepting that would make most of Graham's profesional activities (which dominate his life) obsolete. It is in his interest (and the interest of those he employs) not to see this.

[@nicolasvargas2005]

Great interview 💯💯

[@tylersherman9880]

Tech lead is mostly cringy but he did have several moments with great insightful comments. It is good to have him on so he can expose himself. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

[@L2HfT]

Should have gotten Coffeezilla at the same table with this guy 😂

[@arealious25]

I think Graham would need security for that lol.

[@marcusaureliusregulus2833]

Coffeezilla is a scam

[@arealious25]

@@marcusaureliusregulus2833 😆

[@Userdoesnotexit]

and did what ?? coffe cant say shit

[@PrimeNPC]

Cofeezilla would melt in an actual confrontation with TechLead

[@mitzybenny8948]

Parts of this Coffee Hour was intense to say the least. But it was one of the most interesting episode. It's not everyday that you contemplate questions of your own mortality and meaning. Viktor Frankl would have listened. Graham is a tough cookie.

[@cj4620]

I just found you and I love your work. Keep up the great work. ❤

[@MichaelGordonFinance]

I like the fact that Techlead is such a great contrarian.

[@victor_barranco]

1:20:34 His rationale for betraying someone is that they should get over it and try to collab to make the best of the situation. Graham and Jack were left speechless for a second.

[@mattk8810]

Its crazy because he is projecting. He did exactly that with his job and wife.

[@JustMakingDreams]

Not true! COFFEZILLA DOES ADMIT WHEN HE IS WRONG!

[@robertadams3925]

Seemed like he was talking about having been betrayed.

[@MattSarafin]

Exactly the time stamps came her from Spotify at lol!

[@paulog7411]

By the law and the court standards that's exactly what they expected people to do. Or do they encourage revenge?

[@JoshPitts530]

This demonstrates that we need more education on liquidity structures.

[@manictiger]

Oh dude, this country is insanely uneducated about finances, which is unacceptable for a country with more corporations and net worth than any other country on Earth. I try to teach friends, but, idk. People just aren't wired to absorb this stuff efficiently. They should have started at age 5, not age 25 or 35. I really do feel like this is all by design. They want a nation of slaves, not a nation of creators, because they're too psychopathic and petty to see a brighter future, than the dystopia they want so badly to drag us into.

[@on9francisyu]

it does show that.

[@maverickf13]

I heard a thing somewhere (specific, I know) that said you don't have to choose to have a bad "day". You can have a bad "minute/hour/morning" and still have a good day. The idea that it has to be the whole day is a limiting belief. I do find a nap helps to pretend its not the same day and to sort my thoughts out!

[@ebonyempirellc4390]

This conversation is the funniest one I ever heard.

[@guiovannisuarez2375]

Great one, I feel this guys has a lot of great opinions.

[@mulder13x59]

Hey. I understand the criticism for this interview and when I saw it I was a little surprised but more so I was interested in seeing what this guy was like outside his KZbin videos. I think it’s important to understand all sorts of people. Also I’m not expecting a coffeezilla video from a iced coffee hour video. I just came for insights into the people they interview. I don’t expect them to call out techlead for every wrong hes ever done but maybe to touch on some of things in the overall interview and see where the conversation leads.

[@AaronRClark]

Thanks Tech Lead. I have a wife from Japan and our daughter is below age 2. I share feelings and sentiment for how to interact at this point with her post baby delivery.

[@user-vz9ys4nm9j]

people with two different views has such an interesting conversation I love when two opposites meet like this!

[@funky_monk]

There is no match to TechLead. The level of depth in his thought says it all.

[@jeffrounsville4961]

Great podcast, thanks. I appreciate the diversity of guests you bring on. You let them give their thoughts and you ask questions. Sounds like a great way for us to learn about others and grow.

[@websent]

Was great to hear a millionaire’s story, he’s really successful and provided us with lots of alpha.

[@iwillpro]

A great interview to a great thinking Person

[@UGPVlogsLA]

Awesome that you had Patrick on your show!

[@q.8965]

How are people in the comments not getting this dude's sarcasm........? This was hilarious and it was interesting hearing him speak his thoughts on things.

[@jacobmarley2417]

Go buy more MM TL fanboi

[@rolodexter]

Exactly It's hilarious

[@hanhai8515]

This video and his persona is funny and charismatic for sure, but he is an actual scammer! Don’t get fooled.

[@helgaotto7801]

Nah, he makes it seem like it’s sarcasm but he’s actually serious. It’s this weird double deception thing he does

[@DeepfriedBaby]

I enjoyed this episode. I definitely don't see him as any kind of role model, or person to be. But, I appreciate his directness, there's some valid points.

[@shamelesstumuhaise3364]

Very good conversation, despite some people's mixed reactions. There is always something to pick

[@dogma7911]

Freedom and life fulfillment. That's what they're both striving for. Just different views and paths that they're taking.

[@Mikestonebone]

He’s so funny. Loved the interview

[@on9francisyu]

i love this interview too it is always good to hear the techlead speaks.

[@MaxSujyReact]

43:00 Finally! I've been saying this for years! I am 36 years old making KZbin videos with my Thai wife. Before Covid we were traveling a lot. My father got Parkinson disease at age 40, I was 14 at the time. Life can hit you at any point. There is no reason to accumulate wealth only to use it to enjoy life when you are 60 years old, or not even make it to that age because of an accident or disease. I don't think that I will ever completely retired, but it's never going to consume my life. The 2 vacations per year family analogy is perfect. A lot will call him arrogant, but he's right. YOUTH is something people like Graham severely underestimate. p.s: I say "Thai" to give context clues. We live in Thailand so cost of living is lower then what it would be in my home country Canada.

[@krisb-travel]

i live the exact same way, im 37 and lifes too short, at 37 i feel like ive lived multiple lives already, many of my friends haven't lived yet as they have been chasing the big house and career, it kind of scares me for them as many of them have wanted to chase dreams since 15 years old... eg want to travel, want to live in new york, hawaii, wanted to open a restaurant, whatever it is, all those dreams put on pause and acting like they will live forever and life will be smooth, which we know both are not true.

[@cirquedumaiquel]

Why do you have to say Thai in front of the word wife.. like she’s some sort of breed of iguana or something smh.. just say wife lmao

[@MaxSujyReact]

@@cirquedumaiquelWe live in Thailand which I thought would be obv by saying that but I guess ill precise this further. It matter for context clues like cost of living.

[@cirquedumaiquel]

@@MaxSujyReact then say “with my wife in Thailand.” Not with “my Thai wife”.. the way you fetishize your wife, I mean, the way you type has nothing to do with my reading comprehension 💀💀💀

[@krisb-travel]

@@cirquedumaiquel i get your point but your reading into it too much, people who travel alot and are used to speaking to a international/expat type crowd often speak like this, its normal for us... for example im sure you would say ''i had a fun zoom chat with my friends'' where as i would say ''i had a fun zoom chat with my british friends'' as i semi reside in 3 different countries.

[@Zainenn]

"If you cannot be happy with a cup of coffee you cannot be happy." Amen.

[@rcmen231]

Very interesting perspective from tech lead and gram.

[@averagejoe9249]

Too many people do not understand Techlead. Great podcast.

[@on9francisyu]

I love Techlead I do not care what other people say.

[@agmcroom2374]

I’m sure people have alot to say about tech lead but a lot of things he says make sense. I don’t agree with everything he says or all of perspectives, but he makes alot of sense.

[@marcusaureliusregulus2833]

His ideas are beyond most irrational emotional people who have never thought beyond what society instilled in them.

[@agmcroom2374]

@@marcusaureliusregulus2833 100%

[@Userdoesnotexit]

@@marcusaureliusregulus2833 not really .. it depends from person to another

[@PratikRatnaparkhi]

I think people miss out on understanding what we see as Tech Lead on KZbin is a character and not the actual real person itself. He got some impressive intellectual skills to be able to do what he did on KZbin. The whole conversation is tech lead as a real person, not as the character we know him for.

[@MrSlowestD16]

What skills did he have on KZbin? ", from a millionaire's perspective." It was just a new grift that hadn't been seen before and people latched onto it because people frequently associate richer or more famous opinions are being more meaingful.

[@robertoospina10]

"Life is a car-crash in slow-motion" -TechLead

[@paulfeeser5690]

Techlead has a lot of growing up to do. Criticizing Graham for his breakup with a high school girlfriend while his own wife, the mother of his child, left the country to get away from him exposes his complete lack of any self awareness. Grahams occasional obsession with work sure beats Techlead’s inability to understand and feel love. As I watch Graham, even in his hyper work ways, I can see his love for people. His love for Macy, his dad,Jack and Alex. While Graham financially may be at the 2 foot mark compared to Techlead’s 6 feet, Though with hidden emotions Graham graciously shares his gifts and his love. Emotionally Graham is pushing higher from his current miles above earth residence. Techlead, emotionally is crawling on his stomach.

[@Mr.Caligos]

Don't pretend you know his life or why his wife left him or that you know that he is unable to feel love. Your response is just a proof that you are too simple to judge the crust that is created by his life experiences. Leftie!

[@manictiger]

Graham is leagues ahead of Techlead, in terms of wealth, and their trajectories are in two completely different directions. Graham can already retire, but he likes what he does. Techlead is a has been who's trying to sustain an unsustainable lifestyle with ad rev that's falling away from him. Graham is interesting in new ideas, while Techlead is only interested in himself. This is going to end with Tech "lead" serving someone and Graham continuing to get richer. Graham is humble and extremely financially intelligent, while Techlead is just lucky and hasn't learned anything beyond a programming language. I hate to berate the guy, but I don't know where you get the idea that Techlead is doing better. He literally can't even afford 5k a month in child support. That's a rounding error to Graham!

[@TomNook.]

@@manictiger you didn't listen to the interview at all, did you.

[@mdu2486]

Ya'll have to chill he's just trolling thats just how he is 😂😂

[@manictiger]

​@@TomNook. I did. Unlike you, I also listened to how much "I", "Me" and "My" Techlead said. People who are doing well don't talk like that. In business, people care about what "you" are about, and what "you" can provide. They're not going to like "you", if that's all you care about. I can already tell Techlead is losing his little war of atrophy. He does not understand how to make a self-generating system of wealth, just how to scam. When his little goose runs out of eggs, he's done for. He does not know business and he's to self-absorbed to begin learning.

[@Andersfc1000]

Surprisingly - being neutral yet skeptical on the stance of TL - I enjoyed this episode.

[@dougschallmoser]

great insights/conversation

[@Xtrendence]

I love Tech Lead. Great episode.

[@neflsanker8174]

I love these conversations. Good Job with the guest list.

[@on9francisyu]

He does get good people to go on this videos.

[@soothingrelaxationmusiccha2832]

“Japan doesnt have the ressources…” such an american comment. graham, hope you get to travel the world one day and open your mind. You will be rich inside!

[@christianlonnquist4133]

hahaha was thinking that too, Japan is like the most developed country in Asia, you should know that Graham

[@eyesarewonderful1]

it's true Japan has very little natural resources. this is largely what caused Japan to do invasions over the centuries during periods of scarcity

[@mikeyserrano9748]

Well that was before he realized Techlead lied and attempted to frame losing the custody battle as "child abduction"

[@soothingrelaxationmusiccha2832]

@@mikeyserrano9748 japan is known for protecting japanese mother and their child at all costs. Hundreds of Gajin fathers are literally blocked from seeing their own child, sometimes with reasons, sometimes and unfortunately in an arbitrary fashion without causes (i.e the mother family doesnt accept that their precious daugther is in a relationship with a foreigner). A gajin will never be “pure” in the eyes of the Japanese justice system. I personally couldnt imagine what these fathers may feel losing all hopes of seeing their child again. Techlead seems to have moved on, thats quite a cold move but full of reasons. I will learn one thing from this interview, as a human we sometimes need to put our emotions aside and choose our battles. Retreating doesnt mean losing, acceptance of one may say “fate” is key.

[@personal9045]

one of the very rare ep that I watched all the way till the very end.

[@gh8066]

techlead is actually enlightened AF

[@mikebeats7448]

I agree with Graham, his discipline to SAVE was the drive to keep him going, without that drive anyone can lose the "moving foward" motivation, IMO. & I agree with TechLead, to create an Itinerary like a vacation trip, to help plan your day to day life.

[@NelsonMunoz0714]

Absolutely amazing interview. Brought tears to my eyes. I really respect Techlead for being blatantly honest about everything. This is your best interview ever! Thank you for continuing to bring a variety of people to your show.

[@GreenPeteTV]

He does sound honest about stuff, but definitely isn't. He called his crypto token "social experiment" even though he shilled it and blatantly lied to people in his videos. Even now. He's just good at sounding confident. Enjoy his philosophy but careful about what he says when it comes to facts.

[@pluguette]

why r u a divorced dad too?

[@Jumpman67]

Yea I really respect Techlead for being a giant scumbag and then afterwards doing damage control. Some people.

[@PrimeNPC]

@@GreenPeteTV he didn't lie, morons just fell for his act and he profited from it. I would happily profit from dumb people also, given the opportunity

[@t.yop9]

He's one of the most dishonest people on KZbin. There's a reason why his wife felt unsafe around him and left him with their kid.

[@brandonfrisch]

I really hope they've got Coffeezilla lined up to come on the podcast soon.

[@shreyanshmisra]

The most unexpected crossover of the 21st century

[@triforcelink]

I’m not a big fan of techlead, but this interview was absolute GOLD

[@fearful5312]

Such an honest open discussion. This podcast was a fantastic watch, thank you.

[@midi_verse]

this is so much gold i kept hearing in this interview the same stuff i hear all the time from not only other people who are successful but also from books like the laws of human nature, the richest man in Babylon, 48 laws of power and more. tech lead was on point. all the way.