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Former Conservatives vs Former Liberals | Middle Ground

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00:31 My former political views were cult-like
07:17 I think Trump will win the next election
12:28 Democrats are more compassionate thank Republicans
19:21 Changing sides was traumatic
25:50 The dual party system hurts America
31:41 I am still aligned with certain policies from my former political beliefs

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@jubilee
@jubilee 8 ай бұрын
Unreleased prompt only on Patreon: bit.ly/more-on-patreon "Religion played a part in changing my beliefs."
@Triple_Alliance
@Triple_Alliance 8 ай бұрын
No
@JWick-tm6eh
@JWick-tm6eh 8 ай бұрын
here's a topic , those who think the 2020 elections was legitimate and those who sincerely questing the results for a variety of reasons. I would actually go on the show since not only have I been working on VA elections and the various complications that we have discovered with lack of legislative transparency in the way we vote in VA. I've done extremely extensive research on this subject these last 3 years.
@tobiaslawrence8928
@tobiaslawrence8928 8 ай бұрын
Women who are pro-sex work vs women who are anti-sex work
@user-wm1zg1dh8f
@user-wm1zg1dh8f 8 ай бұрын
Yeah ngl lost respect for Jubilee when I found out they are putting content behind a paywall. How tacky.
@Jamyakoryn
@Jamyakoryn 8 ай бұрын
@@user-wm1zg1dh8f really tacky 🤦🏽‍♀️
@jessw02
@jessw02 8 ай бұрын
I just know this wasn't emily's first time saying 'well my pronouns are now pretty princess'
@smithsunleashed
@smithsunleashed 8 ай бұрын
Only Yasmin from bratz is called pretty princess. Sorry Emily
@BriannaDeveyra
@BriannaDeveyra 8 ай бұрын
She literally used pronouns in that sentence 😭 “my” is a possessive pronoun
@haleighsandoval
@haleighsandoval 8 ай бұрын
@@chateaulobbyshe’s did
@alecklecky
@alecklecky 8 ай бұрын
She aint wrong though. She did 'serve' as @chateaulobby puts it.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 8 ай бұрын
@@alecklecky Love how conservatives only have one joke
@yumbunny2566
@yumbunny2566 8 ай бұрын
I don’t think Emily was a former liberal, she just _realised_ she wasn’t liberal.
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 8 ай бұрын
Ooh, kind of like me!
@paarthurnax8519
@paarthurnax8519 8 ай бұрын
How you met liberals these days? They're insane.
@Chelsea123Chii
@Chelsea123Chii 7 ай бұрын
Well she did say she was a former-emo kid and she def has that early 2000's emo internet kid vibe
@m00nm1lk
@m00nm1lk 7 ай бұрын
@@Chelsea123Chiii kinda get the feeling her definition of her being emo was just wearing eyeliner and black hoodies (which is in fact not emo)
@Chelsea123Chii
@Chelsea123Chii 7 ай бұрын
@@m00nm1lk Nah she's def the raWR OmG
@jaylamarie7442
@jaylamarie7442 7 ай бұрын
I don’t think Emily’s friends cut her off just because she’s conservative 😬
@coco-kl3xr
@coco-kl3xr 6 ай бұрын
they cut her off couse she is annoying
@petereames3041
@petereames3041 5 ай бұрын
I like her.
@jaylamarie7442
@jaylamarie7442 5 ай бұрын
@@petereames3041 well ur a nobody on the internet of course u do
@krisssantos23
@krisssantos23 5 ай бұрын
​@@petereames3041I do too.
@chelsmaria
@chelsmaria 5 ай бұрын
I find her both annoying and valid. Overall, her positive qualities outweigh the negative for me. Biggest factor being that she is brutally honest. I appreciate honesty in people, even if they're annoying or dense at times.
@maggieeastburn
@maggieeastburn 8 ай бұрын
emily going from 'I've never cut off a person because of their political beliefs' to saying she knows to 'stay away' when someone has their pronouns in their bio is genuinely laughable
@pythondrink
@pythondrink 7 ай бұрын
I get what you're saying but those aren't contradictory. To cut someone off, you'd have to had a relationship with them. Staying away from someone online doesn't require cutting them off coz you've probably not even talked to them.
@maggieeastburn
@maggieeastburn 7 ай бұрын
principle is the same- aversion based on political belief@@pythondrink
@Moon-Walkerrr
@Moon-Walkerrr 6 ай бұрын
​@maggieeastburn Not really though. She was saying that if someone she already knew for a long time decided to put pronouns in their bio, she would stop talking to them, even though she doesn't agree.
@slightlyaboveaverage2235
@slightlyaboveaverage2235 6 ай бұрын
​@maggieeastburn having to tell people your pronouns when their opposite agreed upon usage isn't a political view.
@pythondrink
@pythondrink 6 ай бұрын
@@slightlyaboveaverage2235 yes, speech isn't a political view. However, the underlying view in the speech can be political. And "political" is a pretty meaningless word so literally any view out there is a political view once the government gets involved.
@princessd3966
@princessd3966 8 ай бұрын
People being very personally invested in presidents is weird. It's delusional and cult like.
@JesussyTwerkin
@JesussyTwerkin 8 ай бұрын
Yep worshiping false idols
@deadman4222
@deadman4222 8 ай бұрын
the president is just the newest celebrity
@tiggzr9744
@tiggzr9744 8 ай бұрын
Tbh it's not like that at all its only because who the president is affects the our daily lives.
@luisfilipe2023
@luisfilipe2023 8 ай бұрын
Yep it also seems to be an American thing most foreigners don’t attach themselves to politicians
@dr1flush
@dr1flush 8 ай бұрын
Most of these people are on their way to fascist ideology
@andredelano2423
@andredelano2423 8 ай бұрын
It felt like Emily was auditioning for a conservative talk show.
@PatrickWDunne
@PatrickWDunne 8 ай бұрын
Female Dave Rubin
@Battlefield1918
@Battlefield1918 8 ай бұрын
She's not conservative.
@Paradox-lj3td
@Paradox-lj3td 8 ай бұрын
REAL
@stamourbeaulieu
@stamourbeaulieu 8 ай бұрын
We know she worship Pearl
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 8 ай бұрын
...Well, she'd be certainly great at the job.
@sshrekster
@sshrekster 8 ай бұрын
As someone who grew up in saudi arabia - hearing someone saying there’s no crime is crazy 😭😭
@egwene7793
@egwene7793 2 ай бұрын
As a fellow person from the Middle East, I'm starting to think Americans know very little about the world.
@RatMasterRace
@RatMasterRace 2 ай бұрын
@@egwene7793 Starting to think? Americans are disconnected from reality outside the US. Chopping hands removed all crime? Like pls...
@Wolfsheim23
@Wolfsheim23 29 күн бұрын
​@@egwene7793 Its True that Americans are the least likely culture to become expats in another country. They are the least likely to leave America. That's a 100% Fact and I've been an expat in many countries and American's are the last culture you'll see.
@DaBoi2Nyce
@DaBoi2Nyce 28 күн бұрын
@@egwene7793That’s not saying much.. A vast majority of human beings on Earth would qualify as knowing very little about the countries, peoples, cultures/customs of the other nations around the globe.. the fact you didn’t know that is an example of your own limited knowledge regarding the world around you.
@ssblue3152
@ssblue3152 22 күн бұрын
@@DaBoi2Nycevery debatable. Education in the US is hugely lacking and is a big reason why Americans seem to be so disconnected from the rest of the world.
@retcon1991
@retcon1991 8 ай бұрын
Javen is so indoctrinated. I don't trust anyone who cannot concede any ground to an opposing position.
@fisher3317
@fisher3317 3 ай бұрын
This is what happens when your political party becomes your identity.
@leolucas6232
@leolucas6232 8 ай бұрын
I would love to see Liberal immigrants vs. Conservative immigrants
@zo7554
@zo7554 8 ай бұрын
This!
@selimatenzin7484
@selimatenzin7484 8 ай бұрын
!!!!!!!!!!
@MegrelMamba
@MegrelMamba 8 ай бұрын
Conservative migrant 💪🏿🇬🇪💯
@Serenify10
@Serenify10 8 ай бұрын
I am a conservative immigrant! I would totally be down to participate!
@user-yy3dk8jn8j
@user-yy3dk8jn8j 8 ай бұрын
I agree because I never understood why conservatives escape their conservative countries and still try to empose those ideas
@soulvaldez1999
@soulvaldez1999 8 ай бұрын
The way Blake kept bursting out laughing at Emily was sending me. He could not take her serious lmfao
@EM-rm2xh
@EM-rm2xh 8 ай бұрын
He was struggling to not call her a clown (like she deserved).
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 8 ай бұрын
How is she at all a clown, ​@@EM-rm2xh?
@losergoddess6277
@losergoddess6277 8 ай бұрын
Probably thinking in his head ain't no way she's real. She's here for a check. Because that's exactly what I keep thinking.
@saramysko1022
@saramysko1022 8 ай бұрын
@@losergoddess6277 cheque “”””
@mm5xo
@mm5xo 8 ай бұрын
she has to be a troll
@shmootube5000
@shmootube5000 2 ай бұрын
there’s no goddamn way Emily was liberal. she joyfully spouted about every conservative cliche in the first 10 seconds her mouth opened. she probably just voted liberal because she got confused.
@jennyluczaj419
@jennyluczaj419 13 күн бұрын
I bet her pro choice belief made her think she was a part of the liberal side despite her other beliefs. I feel like she hasn’t changed her beliefs, just changed what side she identifies with.
@patrickwoods2213
@patrickwoods2213 3 күн бұрын
No I can believe that she was, because I have seen people who were once very conservative turn extreme liberal over time. It happens to a lot of people going in and out of both camps.
@gracenote108
@gracenote108 Күн бұрын
Voting liberal because you're confused is a very liberal thing.
@shmootube5000
@shmootube5000 Күн бұрын
@@gracenote108 making lazy jokes is a very dumbass thing
@Cheekydr4
@Cheekydr4 8 ай бұрын
Javen's heart was beating out of his chest at 34:38. There's something uneasy about him. Like there is something deeper going on with him internally. His defense of literal authoritarian governments was also shocking to witness. Him calling the "alphabet community" "perverse" was also an extreme jump. I really hope that he finds inner peace and surpasses whatever struggle he's going through.
@user-ut7pc7xg8w
@user-ut7pc7xg8w 8 ай бұрын
His heart calmed down a bit when he moved away from talking about the "alphabet community"
@Cheekydr4
@Cheekydr4 8 ай бұрын
​@user-ut7pc7xg8w I noticed this as well
@MrOBJECTIVETRUTH
@MrOBJECTIVETRUTH 8 ай бұрын
you honestly can make a case that Authoritarian style proves superior, as exemplified by Singapore, Saudi Arabia, and China, especially when comparing GDP advancement within the last 20 -30 year timeframe compared to their regional surrounding democratic counterparts..... Realize that if you take yourself out of a USA bubble, there are plenty of 15-party and 2-party democratic systems in the world that don't have better outcomes compared to Javen's referenced countries, especially in the recent timeframe. So, his point a 2-party system is not necessarily a horrible thing... especially if your asking for more parties. but theirs something internally wrong with him?
@aligreaper1941
@aligreaper1941 8 ай бұрын
i can’t believe you can actually hear his heart pumping😭
@taliaeategg2027
@taliaeategg2027 8 ай бұрын
​@@MrOBJECTIVETRUTHyou're only measuring GDP not freedom or happiness
@jamesgekas9904
@jamesgekas9904 8 ай бұрын
There is no way Emily was a former liberal
@kuggacouragegx6093
@kuggacouragegx6093 8 ай бұрын
How
@daintydalmatian
@daintydalmatian 8 ай бұрын
She’s not even conservative
@tomisakin
@tomisakin 8 ай бұрын
Not a chance.
@deantephillips2689
@deantephillips2689 8 ай бұрын
100% sure shes just there to be liked by whoever will listen to her lol
@TransWomenAreMen
@TransWomenAreMen 8 ай бұрын
No, she's obviously a current liberal.
@boostinky
@boostinky 8 ай бұрын
I don’t really believe Emily was ever “liberal” like she claims. She equates being a former liberal to “i literally used to be an emo kid”.
@pesikimoana3270
@pesikimoana3270 8 ай бұрын
no fr💀💀
@beauxdejour808
@beauxdejour808 8 ай бұрын
No, she equated being an emo kid to being more emotional and empathetic & caring about other peoples emotions, which relates more to the left’s values.
@mayapapayuh
@mayapapayuh 8 ай бұрын
She didnt equate being emo to being liberal. She equated emo and empathetic
@viperlux
@viperlux 8 ай бұрын
Well, that's what a majority of "liberals" sound like these days. Emotional queer cry babies. Normal liberals don't even stand up to those freaks that scream bigotry every 5 seconds just to have a conservation so yeah, the perception is very strong.
@ronron9353
@ronron9353 8 ай бұрын
She’s correct! When emo kid grow up to be emo adult they become conservative incels. 😂
@dragonwhisperer1571
@dragonwhisperer1571 8 ай бұрын
I get the feeling that Emily is proclaiming whatever she thinks will get her the most attention - saying this as a conservative
@3Duardomarrufobailon
@3Duardomarrufobailon 5 ай бұрын
She has okay opinions on her KZbin channel “Emily saves America”.
@C-Farsene_5
@C-Farsene_5 3 ай бұрын
@@3Duardomarrufobailon how..humble of her
@grandmabecky7984
@grandmabecky7984 Ай бұрын
​@@C-Farsene_5 omg 😂😂
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 7 ай бұрын
Javen seems like one of those people who managed to get themselves brainwashed by Charles Manson. 😂
@dani_i8942
@dani_i8942 2 ай бұрын
He's pretty based now. Liberal commenter on this chanel are insufferable.
@TZ19999
@TZ19999 2 ай бұрын
@@dani_i8942 Brain rot
@hanginthere008
@hanginthere008 Ай бұрын
It's because your bases are ridiculously crazy now and built on a cult leader
@jujutrini8412
@jujutrini8412 Ай бұрын
@@hanginthere008 What are my “bases” and who is my cult leader?
@Commonsenseisntcommon666
@Commonsenseisntcommon666 8 ай бұрын
Javen is such a checklist tribalist. When he was a liberal he made sure to check all the extreme liberal boxes. Now he’s a republican and checks all the extreme conservative views. He need some milk
@ivorythorntonpogue2070
@ivorythorntonpogue2070 8 ай бұрын
I’m glad somebody else said it. Like literally every time he spoke I grew increasingly more annoyed. I’m neither Democrat or Republican… real independent over here.
@mike-zy2bn
@mike-zy2bn 8 ай бұрын
He went from a progressive pos to conservative pos
@girlplease2452
@girlplease2452 8 ай бұрын
@@ivorythorntonpogue2070fr
@msierox
@msierox 8 ай бұрын
I’d call this an over correction.
@newwave3366
@newwave3366 8 ай бұрын
Leave him alone
@kiyobot123
@kiyobot123 8 ай бұрын
Emily's confusing pronouns with adjectives. My prefered adjectives are funny, smart, and goodlooking.
@sumurssno
@sumurssno 8 ай бұрын
Princess is a noun.
@RS-xb9lo
@RS-xb9lo 8 ай бұрын
@@sumurssno Pretty is not a noun.
@genewood4489
@genewood4489 8 ай бұрын
And so are every other moron using pronouns. Seek mental help if you feel the need to use pronouns and force others to do so
@don7777s
@don7777s 8 ай бұрын
And yet you fail to get the point she was making
@don7777s
@don7777s 8 ай бұрын
​@@RS-xb9loyou failed to get her point... so call her what she wants to be called, you racist bigot.
@caleb8060
@caleb8060 4 ай бұрын
5:42 “My pronouns are now “adjective, noun”” oh my lord.
@nope19568
@nope19568 4 күн бұрын
someone needs to show them the school house rock song on pronouns, maybe thatd be dumbed down enough for them
@cardcollectorcs2424
@cardcollectorcs2424 14 сағат бұрын
Well being a piece of cake, frog, fox or a tree are far from pro nouns as well
@flowersafeheart
@flowersafeheart 7 ай бұрын
"You can pick yourself up AND you can except welfare." Yes. Yes! It does not make someone bad or lazy or incapable or less than to be open to receiving support and resourcing!! Humans are designed to thrive through interdependence and love. There is too much oppressive inequality and unfair, unsustainable power dynamics and hardship in the world for it to be as simple as "pick yourself up by your bootstraps." It truly is not always that simple. There is so much more I could say on that, some of it from lived experience. It takes strength to be willing to ask for help. Help literally saves lives.❤
@Cashback13
@Cashback13 15 күн бұрын
Working Poverty is the first sign that capitalism and min wage levels have failed the fact people have to work full time or have multiple jobs AND claim some welfare to bridge a gap in home financing and budgeting to pay for basics just shows it doesn't work and you can't just 'mentality' your way out of these external factors out of your control. People got sleep, eat, rest and have a life outside of the grind!
@Darkian95403
@Darkian95403 5 күн бұрын
There should be no shame in taking the help offered and working to do better. The problem I see with welfare is once you're on it, you're very often stuck. It's a very carefully designed system to ensure you can't become self sufficient without having your legs kicked out from under you. Thus, you end up stuck, and people think it's your fault.
@lolneo8766
@lolneo8766 8 ай бұрын
I’m RELIEVED that they’re FINALLY talking about government corruption instead of fighting with each other.
@s.r6331
@s.r6331 8 ай бұрын
Same. Society have more in common then they think and that's because the govt puts labels on us to keep us divided
@spartanworrior4519
@spartanworrior4519 8 ай бұрын
But they didn’t actually address anything that leads to govt corruption
@lolneo8766
@lolneo8766 8 ай бұрын
@@spartanworrior4519Watch 26:13 how finally most of the people in the room are in agreement that the dual party system is flawed. This is the part where each side is picking apart the other side yet they can all agree that it’s the system that’s to blame for the division. They also talk about corruption.
@d.k.s.5919
@d.k.s.5919 8 ай бұрын
The government did a great job of really dividing us
@MikeyBlitz69
@MikeyBlitz69 8 ай бұрын
@@spartanworrior4519 Blud did not watch the whole video
@ShaquilleOatmeal849
@ShaquilleOatmeal849 8 ай бұрын
I love how Emily is every stereotype surrounding someone who isn't smart.
@jeniffervarela6066
@jeniffervarela6066 8 ай бұрын
It's almost like she's a real life Regina George. wow.
@bubba94290
@bubba94290 8 ай бұрын
@@jeniffervarela6066Regina George wouldn’t make politics their whole personality
@joecurran2811
@joecurran2811 8 ай бұрын
Someone trying to look smart
@jesusbarrera6916
@jesusbarrera6916 8 ай бұрын
what are all the stereotypes sorrounding someone who isn't smart?
@ShaquilleOatmeal849
@ShaquilleOatmeal849 8 ай бұрын
​@@jesusbarrera6916 Blonde, weirdly sarcastic tone, annoying high pitched voice, obsessive over something they have no idea about (in this case politics). I could go on but I don't want to list every single thing about her lol.
@river_is_tired5352
@river_is_tired5352 8 ай бұрын
I wonder what Emily’s definition of “emo” was
@gameofvelets6421
@gameofvelets6421 8 ай бұрын
Listened to a pierce the veil song
@lilmisslizzyc
@lilmisslizzyc 8 ай бұрын
she liked Fall Out Boy and wore converse
@nl6731
@nl6731 4 ай бұрын
She probably was an e-girl lol
@sophiestone5612
@sophiestone5612 4 ай бұрын
Exactly what I was thinking
@TehSeksyManz
@TehSeksyManz 4 ай бұрын
Put black nail polish on once.
@kirttrinidad8102
@kirttrinidad8102 4 ай бұрын
Javen is so lost, he really needs therapy. These people have no Grey, no middle...It's sad that they can't find nuances in their lives.
@Cashback13
@Cashback13 15 күн бұрын
He's really had a number done on him he's literally like a conservative news anchor just repeating the same script and talking points and mentality no matter the nuance of the topic or flow of the discussion
@denziboi4063
@denziboi4063 8 күн бұрын
@@Cashback13 "being pro black is racist", "feminism is mysoginistic", like what?
@pahtrice5424
@pahtrice5424 8 ай бұрын
Emily has GOT to be trolling you cannot be that delusional. Saying you love any politician is insane behavior
@deviantmoore9744
@deviantmoore9744 8 ай бұрын
America is literally the hub of politician-loving people, so I'm not sure why you're all acting so surprised. No country cares more about the person rather than their policies like America.
@Eclectic8
@Eclectic8 8 ай бұрын
To me, "grifter" is a term that fits even better.
@SalinaBabba8343
@SalinaBabba8343 8 ай бұрын
She worked for NewsMax. That should tell you enough
@Emariess
@Emariess 8 ай бұрын
i think the term is cuntrarian...
@marlonmoncrieffe0728
@marlonmoncrieffe0728 8 ай бұрын
Delusional how?
@Mr.LetsBeF.R.A.N.K.
@Mr.LetsBeF.R.A.N.K. 8 ай бұрын
It's sad people didn't learn what a pronoun was in elementary school. Just because people want to be antagonistic, they forgot what it actually means.
@luismartins1713
@luismartins1713 8 ай бұрын
That is so true. I’m not really pro neopronouns, if you can call that, but pronouns are still pronouns and we all use them!
@Lochness19
@Lochness19 8 ай бұрын
@@luismartins1713 Yeah, what they should have said is that the don't believe in stating your pronouns. That they think which pronoun one should use should be self evident. Which usually it is.
@dustierbottoms
@dustierbottoms 8 ай бұрын
Wait…I’m confused. We were all taught what pronouns were in school - the traditional pronouns (his, her, we, its, them, your, our etc). But now there’s a list of a bagillion pronouns and I thought it was all a recent phenomenon. Are you saying they werent recently created? Her point was pronouns are basically descriptive so she choose “pronouns” that describe her (she choose adjectives). If you are creating pronouns and they can be whatever you want, why can’t you even use adjectives? Rationalizing one and not accepting the other seems rather absurd.
@user-nv9vn8fm1d
@user-nv9vn8fm1d 8 ай бұрын
@@dustierbottoms Not really. You can just use "they" for anyone. I've been at a liberal school for 4 years. Still haven't heard anyone use neopronouns. But if they did, I could either remember those pronouns, or use their name or use "they".
@dustierbottoms
@dustierbottoms 8 ай бұрын
@@user-nv9vn8fm1d wait just because you haven’t witnessed anyone using neopronouns, are you saying those people don’t exist? Bc neopronouns exist, they must be preferred pronouns for some people. And I imagine you would be someone that will respect their wishes. So, respect the wishes of someone that wishes to be addressed as princess. I don’t see how your point is relevant. And “they” implies 2 or more people. A English rule that was broken and redefined to accommodate a select group.
@TravMakesaMove24
@TravMakesaMove24 8 ай бұрын
I love Samantha. She’s the kind of person I’d love to talk to for hours. Going from Conservative to Liberal is quite an interesting story to hear and this video has been so entertaining and indulging.
@lilmisslizzyc
@lilmisslizzyc 8 ай бұрын
and her glasses are fabulous, she seems awesome
@nineinchthread
@nineinchthread 7 ай бұрын
She seems really understanding of both sides even though she disagrees.
@samirkhosrowshahi7928
@samirkhosrowshahi7928 3 ай бұрын
Yes! She seemed like the most aware person in the room and is the type of person that invites discussion.
@tubarashid
@tubarashid 3 күн бұрын
Ofc a liberal
@LHS427
@LHS427 Ай бұрын
Javen: “I was a big ally of the LGBT community”. Javen, I have news for you 💅
@Scrungge
@Scrungge 8 ай бұрын
This was surprisingly less hostile than anticipated
@celica9098
@celica9098 8 ай бұрын
Because they understand where the other side is coming from.
@lilblackfish2009
@lilblackfish2009 8 ай бұрын
i wouldnt think it would cuz they been in both sides ,
@NicolaasBurgers
@NicolaasBurgers 8 ай бұрын
Like the other replies here, I would think the natural assumption is that it is those who have only ever been on one side, and not taken the time to properly understand the other, would be the most hostile. These people know both sides so much that few of them have 100% alignment with their 'side' across all issues.
@tl3657
@tl3657 8 ай бұрын
It's an issue though. How are multiple people perpetrating the lie about the election being "rigged" with barely any pushback? That's dangerous.
@quantumjourney1
@quantumjourney1 8 ай бұрын
The blonde girl was hella passive aggressive
@SickVeteran99
@SickVeteran99 8 ай бұрын
Please make Socialists vs Liberals! So there'll be no more confusion surrounding Liberalism
@topleftfromtime
@topleftfromtime 8 ай бұрын
Thissss
@Norrieification
@Norrieification 8 ай бұрын
Destiny vs Hasan LET’S GOOOO!
@len-1768
@len-1768 8 ай бұрын
They currently have a casting call for that, though as leftists vs liberals.
@ashwinnaidoo796
@ashwinnaidoo796 8 ай бұрын
@@Norrieificationno not again pls 😭
@jant5127
@jant5127 8 ай бұрын
And facist vs Conservatives
@prideisreal9461
@prideisreal9461 8 ай бұрын
0:02 “YOU’LL never meet a republican that uses pronouns” so who’s going to tell her “you” is a pronoun? 💀
@ellaverte2333
@ellaverte2333 8 ай бұрын
The Americans arnt known for their intelligence
@InfCrash
@InfCrash Ай бұрын
@@ellaverte2333 huh? youre typing on a american app watching an american made video on your american phone😂
@isabella79282
@isabella79282 Ай бұрын
@InfCrash you're never gonna believe this. This will shock you. Smart phones are not made in America.
@connorswife_
@connorswife_ Ай бұрын
@@isabella79282 they were invented here
@_mark_3814
@_mark_3814 26 күн бұрын
She obviously means “use” as in identifying yourself with like he/him or she/her before a conversation
@elenaurbina227
@elenaurbina227 2 ай бұрын
10:53 “he’s not gonna end up in jail” bro is eating those words now😭😭😭🫵🏽
@nikelover2123
@nikelover2123 Ай бұрын
Hey buddy is he in jail yet?
@combatcarl
@combatcarl Ай бұрын
Comments that aged like milk. 😂😂😂
@connorswife_
@connorswife_ Ай бұрын
did he end up in jail? /gen
@bigz5262
@bigz5262 24 күн бұрын
Nothing bad happens to the political class
@Catastrophic616
@Catastrophic616 15 күн бұрын
Lmao this comment is definitely hilarious now
@avamin0s
@avamin0s 8 ай бұрын
Saying you love a politician is WILD
@sonnecarver
@sonnecarver 8 ай бұрын
depends.. 99.9999% of them yes.. but the likes of vivek ramaswamy is different. Outsiders that come in that aren't supported by the system and are actively shut down by the system should be propped up by the american people.
@chrisr393
@chrisr393 8 ай бұрын
@@sonnecarver Why should they be propped up? Vivek openly supports Russia and believes that Ukraine should bend to Russia's demands. Not to mention, he's a multimillionaire, so I wouldn't consider him an "outsider" in the Republican party
@pigmasters3263
@pigmasters3263 8 ай бұрын
@@sonnecarverRamaswamy is one of the worst of the Republican bunch lmao
@sonnecarver
@sonnecarver 8 ай бұрын
@@pigmasters3263 how, legit tell me how
@sonnecarver
@sonnecarver 8 ай бұрын
@@chrisr393 he doesn’t support Russia, he supports America. Wtf is wrong with you?
@K.pendragon
@K.pendragon 8 ай бұрын
Not fooling anyone by cutting Hunter out so much. We know he wouldn’t just sit there quietly the entire second half 😅
@Madison-ew3el
@Madison-ew3el 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! t kinda feels unfair that there showing these (important) conversations claiming to be neutral whilst cutting things out to make the two sides seem ‘balanced’
@inesgassetpeinado
@inesgassetpeinado Ай бұрын
@@Madison-ew3elthey did the same with Blaire white
@pandaworld8166
@pandaworld8166 Ай бұрын
@@inesgassetpeinado this is money making for them, depending on who they've brought they'll lean the video to appeal lmao
@stiff0ny262
@stiff0ny262 8 ай бұрын
I loved everything Blake said he was so well spoken and hit so many points
@Bestbuilt04
@Bestbuilt04 2 ай бұрын
He really wasn’t. He is very disrespectful to the other side
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 2 ай бұрын
@@Bestbuilt04nah. He’s been being disrespected by conservatives his whole life. I can guarantee you that.
@kaimyrthil757
@kaimyrthil757 2 ай бұрын
“He’s not gonna end up in jail”
@essbee1641
@essbee1641 8 ай бұрын
I would’ve liked to hear what caused them to change their beliefs.
@kathrine7813
@kathrine7813 8 ай бұрын
for hunter it was having kids. He's been very vocal about how having kids changed his views
@BRIYUHH
@BRIYUHH 8 ай бұрын
Well, liberal to conservative means that they either got super religious, or were indoctrinated/ given self hatred or some other form of hatred by someone in a minority group usually, and conservative to liberal is just people mentally maturing and making it so their views arent all for their own self interest/ gain.
@duckyrino5073
@duckyrino5073 8 ай бұрын
@@BRIYUHH see this youre part of the problem by saying when someone switches from lib to con its because this and that someone got to them and yayaya and being like oh con to lib is because they matured they got smarter is the stupidest thing i have ever read basically bringing us backwards SMH
@BarcelonaBlitzer
@BarcelonaBlitzer 8 ай бұрын
@@BRIYUHHThat “mentally maturing” aspect could be used for liberal to conservative. Agree with the the focus towards self tho.
@BRIYUHH
@BRIYUHH 8 ай бұрын
@@BarcelonaBlitzer you should read my paragraph too if you really believe it to be vice versa.
@hillclimbracer5413
@hillclimbracer5413 8 ай бұрын
Javen explaining how traumatic becoming transphobic was to HIM, when he must've caused so much pain to his trans family members is actually baffling
@cel.2263
@cel.2263 8 ай бұрын
I was having such a hard time understanding what he meant because it was just so so so crazy and delulu
@jones2277
@jones2277 8 ай бұрын
i didn't get what he was saying. i hoped someone would ask him to clarify.
@avabackupaccount
@avabackupaccount 8 ай бұрын
honestly
@stephniek
@stephniek 8 ай бұрын
Does not being an ally means he's transphobic??
@in_a_tizzy
@in_a_tizzy 8 ай бұрын
@@stephniekYes. It is an emotional and ideological form of transphobia. He considers trans people to be living in perversion and no matter what love he may still hold for his trans family member, his perspective will cause them emotional harm
@russellsidell
@russellsidell 28 күн бұрын
Not convinced the antagonistic blonde conservative woman wasn't a plant 😂
@flashraylaser157
@flashraylaser157 20 күн бұрын
She's an exact type of conservative woman where I live. The only thing I don't believe is that she was ever a liberal. Getting called a city slicker for a week by your dad because you refused to keep riding horses when he wouldn't get you a pony doesn't mean you were a liberal.
@columbiaamericana2878
@columbiaamericana2878 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for hosting these videos. Conversations between people with different opinions are so uncommon these days and these videos are a great way to hear from someone with a different perspective.
@matthiaspuntel2001
@matthiaspuntel2001 8 ай бұрын
Emily: Ill never cut off a person for their political views. Also Emily: If I see pronouns in your bio I almost know who you are and so who to stay away from. BRUH
@xenolith5032
@xenolith5032 8 ай бұрын
There is a clear distinction between those two. "Cutting off" means she would never end a friendship just because of political disagreements. The pronoun thing is people she decides to stay away from and not interact with. Which is fine, her choices to make
@hippios
@hippios 8 ай бұрын
dude thats the most disingenuous comparison. do liberals lack elementary comprehension lol
@Robzabest25
@Robzabest25 8 ай бұрын
@@xenolith5032 but u arn't just born with pronoun in the bio it gradually gets added, so is she sstaying away this friend now? probably
@wheeler5382
@wheeler5382 8 ай бұрын
She's not wrong
@everythingisawesome2903
@everythingisawesome2903 8 ай бұрын
And where is the problem in that!?
@dakotagreen0524
@dakotagreen0524 8 ай бұрын
Movie goers vs. Movie critics would be a really fun episode.
@sunsetlollypops437
@sunsetlollypops437 8 ай бұрын
Moviegoer's twenty dollars down Loves to throw their film knowledge around the workplace Movie director is going down too Twenty million dollars, still nobody understands youuuuuuuuu
@MiguelBorgesphotography
@MiguelBorgesphotography 8 ай бұрын
Yesss
@estri5402
@estri5402 8 ай бұрын
Alternatively, filmmakers vs film critics
@andrewgoldin675
@andrewgoldin675 8 ай бұрын
This was quite literally the political equivalent of that 😂, I highly doubt a single one of them has read and finished a single book on theory, whether it be Marxist or otherwise…
@Valentinasc2
@Valentinasc2 8 ай бұрын
​@@estri5402yesss
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1496
@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1496 12 күн бұрын
emily is so funny to me. she doesn't even understand pronouns as a part of speech and their purpose and yet she feels the need to have such a strong opinion on it 💀💀
@xXPurpleLoliTranceXx
@xXPurpleLoliTranceXx 8 ай бұрын
Why does Emily go about explaining anything as if she’s talking about her favorite Starbucks drink?
@user-jb1pm8yl7t
@user-jb1pm8yl7t Ай бұрын
She gives me mean girl in high school energy 🤣
@thecaski8239
@thecaski8239 12 күн бұрын
@@user-jb1pm8yl7tnot at all
@Jay-zw5cf
@Jay-zw5cf 8 ай бұрын
Emily made me have to pause multiple times to collect myself and Javan literally went from radical liberalism to radical conservatism, I think he’s just very easily influenced and probably doesn’t think for himself much.
@junojx
@junojx 8 ай бұрын
glad i wasn't the only one who had to pause the video after something she said
@dubyah967
@dubyah967 8 ай бұрын
She is the worst
@ComfyCozyShelle
@ComfyCozyShelle 8 ай бұрын
How to think for yourself?
@Blueeyesinthesky
@Blueeyesinthesky 8 ай бұрын
Sounds like you have a problem hearing other people’s opinions.
@Bobbyheebee
@Bobbyheebee 8 ай бұрын
Javen reminded me exactly of my ex-roommate - even down to the way they hesitate as they talk. He too was easily influenced and how he portrayed himself publicly would regularly not align with his behavior in the home.
@megax5000
@megax5000 8 ай бұрын
Panelist: i literally think democrats are political terrorists Comments section: wow what a polite and respectful discussion 😁🙏
@Magst3r1
@Magst3r1 8 ай бұрын
They always comment the same lol
@josiea.3855
@josiea.3855 8 ай бұрын
@Magst3r1 LITERALLY in every single debate, the comments are like "wow this is the most respectful debate I've ever seen". like they'd probably say that if two people started beating each other up in the middle of the panel 💀
@thestrawberrycherub
@thestrawberrycherub 8 ай бұрын
@@josiea.3855😂😂😂
@christianbahena5364
@christianbahena5364 8 ай бұрын
They're not wrong though? Same could be said for Republicans too and they wouldn't be wrong. Pretty much any corporatist anyways.
@1DuctTape1
@1DuctTape1 8 ай бұрын
@@christianbahena5364 Socialism🔛🔝
@ImakittyLAWL
@ImakittyLAWL 2 ай бұрын
I hate the term "Pick yourself up by the bootstraps" or w/e it is. Not everyone can be a CEO. THe world still needs cashiers and those people deserve to be able to live a comfortable and healthy life.
@Buddystemz
@Buddystemz 8 күн бұрын
So you believe a cashier should be paid equal to that of someone with a trade or other jobs that require more effort? Jobs like fast food, cashiers etc are for young people/second jobs. You can’t be a cashier and expect to provide for a family.
@ImakittyLAWL
@ImakittyLAWL 8 күн бұрын
@@Buddystemz Not what I said. I believe the cashier should be able to afford to pay rent, groceries, health insurance, medication, electricity and utilities, School, childcare, Gas, and other basic human necessities. Do you think people should be able to afford a place to live and food on their table after working 40 hours? The point I was making is, if EVERYONE is a CEO then who would be the cashiers? Why be a cashier when you can just be a CEO like everyone else? I'm not saying cashiers need to be able to afford to buy a mansion and a Rolls-Royce, but they should be able to afford to rent an apartment and geed their family and not have to decide whether they eat or medications. Why do you want people to suffer?
@Buddystemz
@Buddystemz 8 күн бұрын
@@ImakittyLAWL depends on the job they do. No I don’t think a cashier would or should be able to do all those listed after workin 40 hours. Not all jobs are created equal and some jobs are for part timers or kids just gettin into the workforce and never meant to support a person or especially a family.
@Buddystemz
@Buddystemz 8 күн бұрын
@@ImakittyLAWL I take it you’re very liberal from your responses?
@Chapterhouse86
@Chapterhouse86 8 ай бұрын
I am so glad Keri was invited on here! She is a gem of a human being and I love her! Check out her podcast yall!
@pythondrink
@pythondrink 7 ай бұрын
Link plz?
@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij
@FrankskinOrweed-ep4ij 7 ай бұрын
Yeah she’s really smart and great. Great episode idea,
@x12danx
@x12danx 8 ай бұрын
I think a tragic flaw that people have, regardless of their side, is that they assume that they have things completely figured out, whether it’s about our elections, the media, or gender politics, you never hear people show humility in how actually little they know about the nuances of each topic and will give oversimplified takes so confidently.
@chelsealee6349
@chelsealee6349 8 ай бұрын
I agree. To me, the truth lives in the grey area & people so desperately want it to be black & white & it just isn’t. The internet has also really ramped this lack of nuance up bc people can just find huge echo chambers that give the illusion of things being absolute.
@noprogressionisregression6854
@noprogressionisregression6854 8 ай бұрын
🫰👏👏👏👏
@ZimmyZon0
@ZimmyZon0 8 ай бұрын
It could also be that there was some editing done or that they didn't have enough time for the topic, I'm sure there may be some reaction videos later on where they can go more on the topic but I agree it's hard to believe that some of these are just black and white.
@rileydaily5426
@rileydaily5426 8 ай бұрын
But that's their truth. It's just what they feel 🤷
@BroJo676
@BroJo676 8 ай бұрын
​@overlordfemto7523Thank you. I rolled my eyes so much that I thought I'd be going blind.
@sacreddatura1399
@sacreddatura1399 8 ай бұрын
Javen was lowkey like extremely scary. You don’t just completely overhaul your worldview and belief system with absolutely no overlap without some other factors being in play whether it’s internal or external. Also saying he thinks his own family members are sexually perverse for simply existing is really sad.
@rickym1046
@rickym1046 8 ай бұрын
He is clearly deeply troubled and is grasping from one extreme to another
@ana13910
@ana13910 8 ай бұрын
It's sad when you see actual indoctrination. To fully reject absolutely everything you stood for so absolutely and without nuance seldom happens without a lot of outside influence.
@reneeontop39
@reneeontop39 8 ай бұрын
i thought it was just me
@slav1453
@slav1453 8 ай бұрын
@@thomasjefferson6334 LMAO, now all liberals are on drugs ? classic braindead assumption coming from a classic braindead conservative
@ethancoley5521
@ethancoley5521 8 ай бұрын
Fr! Like I saw so many comments praising this for being a respectful debate but he was fr out here saying that queer people are perverse lol. It’s insaneeee. Idk why people refuse to see queer people as just… normal people. I have a lot of LGBT people in my bubble and everyone who isn’t LGBT is abundantly accepting and understanding. It’s always such a shock to see people like this actually still exist.
@MrJoshuadh81
@MrJoshuadh81 5 ай бұрын
Wow, GREAT episode. This is what Middle Ground is all about! As the episode went on, pretty much all of them became more and more respectful, expressed their own opinions while simultaneously working to connect with the other side. Well done!👍
@LocalGems-SelectedRestaurants
@LocalGems-SelectedRestaurants Ай бұрын
I think that Emily exemplifies people who like to sway from one extreme to the other. A bit of a study on how psychology plays into identity politics.
@cmessy07
@cmessy07 Ай бұрын
not even just psychology, imo it’s more so whatever political affiliation will get her the most attention
@littleredsparrow
@littleredsparrow 8 ай бұрын
I don't think Emily is either democratic nor republican. I think she went on this strictly for views. She talks like a very stereotypical republican you'd mock tbh. She did it for the publicity. She uses buzz words rather than actual logical thoughts to explain herself. Yikes.
@jessisunderwater
@jessisunderwater 8 ай бұрын
Totally.
@TruantAll
@TruantAll 8 ай бұрын
She should not have been on this episode. Jubilee should vet these discussions better, first maybe by testing if participants know what a pronoun is
@calmyourmind5665
@calmyourmind5665 8 ай бұрын
I noticed she kept going for the center chair or as close as she could get.
@MaddenFifa
@MaddenFifa 8 ай бұрын
She's the SNL version of Tomi Lahren
@prncessbaby16
@prncessbaby16 8 ай бұрын
​@@calmyourmind5665i seriously thought that was just camera angling but i noticed that she seemed to be in the middle a lot as well. She sat down for EVERY topic so far but im only halfway through.
@mogulme6190
@mogulme6190 8 ай бұрын
The guy with the locs was well spoken and I agreed with him on nearly everything. A very balanced viewpoint on every topic
@FrazOH
@FrazOH 8 ай бұрын
Bc he grew up in a two parent home that was conservative.
@givemeliberty700
@givemeliberty700 8 ай бұрын
He seems high AF lol that's what I picked up on , smokers know another smoker lol
@guyandalaptop434
@guyandalaptop434 8 ай бұрын
@@FrazOHwhats that got to do with his viewpoint?
@cringeusername9705
@cringeusername9705 8 ай бұрын
@@FrazOHThe conservatives in this vid seem pretty psychotic so I don’t think your logic is sound here.
@yoshinoricheek
@yoshinoricheek 3 ай бұрын
​@@FrazOHhe probably thought he didn't want to end up like his parents
@TheHawk1811
@TheHawk1811 17 күн бұрын
I’m curious how this conversation would flow now, post-assassination attempt, President debate, and RNC.
@Chelsea123Chii
@Chelsea123Chii 8 ай бұрын
This was very eye-opening. Thank you Jubilee for hosting this!
@hunteravallone
@hunteravallone 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for having me on Jubilee. Although I am disappointed to see the majority of my moments cut out and put behind a paywall, I still am grateful for the opportunity. Thanks again for putting this together 😊
@len-1768
@len-1768 8 ай бұрын
It's great watching you on this video. I'll watch the extended cut later.
@Meee22222
@Meee22222 8 ай бұрын
You did a great job, Hunter.
@aloe704
@aloe704 8 ай бұрын
Agreed! I wish I could see the religion part... but I can't afford it lol
@SkilledTadpole
@SkilledTadpole 8 ай бұрын
I really appreciated your takes in this exchange! Didn't know of you as a content creator before this, but am definitely subscribing to see more of your takes.
@YousufS16
@YousufS16 8 ай бұрын
If you debate Daniel Haqiqatjou/TheMuslimSkeptic you'd get humiliated
@calebmills6051
@calebmills6051 8 ай бұрын
Javen sounds like he’s trying to convince himself of his own beliefs mid conversation 💀😅
@eevee2411
@eevee2411 8 ай бұрын
Lol yeah it sounds like he's never actually thought about it. He just read or watched stuff and ran with it. Now that he's having to say it out loud by himself he's realising it's all inconsistent and doesn't make sense.
@cjpeery
@cjpeery 8 ай бұрын
He actually kinda sounds like he’s foreign if you listen to his accent.
@rowans-lvrs
@rowans-lvrs 7 ай бұрын
i know the ex liberals were saying that conservatives are rarely even offended but tbh I think they are just passive aggressive. and how he seems so CONFUSED 😭 it's like he doesn't know what he believes anymore. it's crazy seeing grown adults silently argue with each other. I would probably cry after being in one of these Jubilee's
@zoewoey
@zoewoey 7 ай бұрын
@@rowans-lvrs i would cry too bc wdym there’s people that don’t agree w me 😕🙏
@truthseeker-nv6ny
@truthseeker-nv6ny 6 ай бұрын
​@@rowans-lvrs yeah very traumatising when people don't agree with me on everything
@UpBeatCpr
@UpBeatCpr 8 ай бұрын
I am so grateful that this is happening 🙏🏼 we are millions strong!! Those of us with beliefs in the MIDDLE GROUND. I got chills listening.
@thecyclinggreek274
@thecyclinggreek274 28 күн бұрын
To the question on how to change the politicol system: Go to a ranked voting system in the primaries. This will give us more moderate nominees.
@CJDavis-js7mr
@CJDavis-js7mr 8 ай бұрын
I love the premise here because everyone arguing for one side intimately understands the other. Which is something I think is often lacking in American political discourse
@BighomieRich
@BighomieRich 8 ай бұрын
They agree about how they feel about things but they’ve got no idea how to organize around anything…so it’s all for nothing
@dr1flush
@dr1flush 8 ай бұрын
That doesn't make you intimate with both parties. That shows you are actually the opposite
@TierDvik
@TierDvik 8 ай бұрын
@@dr1flush Being someone that went through the change in political ideas... you are wrong. While I am no conservative I am no longer a liberal in the current sense. I know what it means, I know what and WHY they think the way the do... and now I know why the conservatives do as well. I am just not in the bubble of either side anymore.
@JrobAlmighty
@JrobAlmighty 8 ай бұрын
@@TierDvikit almost seems as though if everyone started getting real and used more independent thought, rather than herd behavior, then maybe we could eventually agree to disagree and just vote our preferences.
@TierDvik
@TierDvik 8 ай бұрын
@@JrobAlmighty And as it was pointed out. There are plenty of people in power that dont WANT us thinking or voting that way. It makes sense... they lose power the more independent we the people become.
@pinkymzimela5481
@pinkymzimela5481 8 ай бұрын
This debate was more peaceful than I expected 😂 wow maybe the empathy of having been on the other side makes the difference
@GenerationNextNextNext
@GenerationNextNextNext 6 ай бұрын
Empathy makes a world of a difference. In fact, not enough people have it.
@austinquick6285
@austinquick6285 3 ай бұрын
It’s because you have a room full of people who are comfortable with challenging their own beliefs. These are the friend groups you should surround yourself with if you want to grow.
@anamartinez4002
@anamartinez4002 2 ай бұрын
My exact thoughts
@chillguy2758
@chillguy2758 2 ай бұрын
Political differences aren’t so bad when you consider there’s literally a 100 year war going on in the Middle East
@stayfuckingpathetic
@stayfuckingpathetic 2 ай бұрын
That's cause they cut out half the footage to make it look as neutral as possible
@doubtingdennis
@doubtingdennis 8 ай бұрын
I really don't like the "join patreon to see this answer" thing. Like have behind the scenes or something as part of your patreon but withholding a key component of your program feels unfair to people who can't afford it but still want to learn about finding middle ground.
@Price_with_a_b
@Price_with_a_b 3 күн бұрын
Dw they aren't gonna put the most interesting convos on patreon. If it wasn't in the episode they prolly didn't think it was worth including. But it does suck and I do think they should say "see an uncut version" or "see an extended version" on patreon instead of that but yk.
@Isabella-rx8ml
@Isabella-rx8ml Ай бұрын
Saying there’s no crime in Saudi Arabia is crazyyyy
@sashwathtanmay4033
@sashwathtanmay4033 8 ай бұрын
emily is the kind of girl who chooses her beliefs and personality based off of current trends
@mar35962
@mar35962 8 ай бұрын
bingo!
@David.124
@David.124 8 ай бұрын
But aren’t her beliefs against the current trends
@Steamyarmpits
@Steamyarmpits 8 ай бұрын
Her beliefs are against current trends
@alecklecky
@alecklecky 8 ай бұрын
Wrong, her current beliefs and personality is against the current trend.
@Momo-po5tn
@Momo-po5tn 8 ай бұрын
How?
@113wy
@113wy 8 ай бұрын
javen’s one extreme to another is actually a bit worrying to me. he seems very brainwashed & lacking his own identity and opinion, whereas the others all held a stronger grasp on their own opinions and identity, changing some, yet keeping others, and such. for example, strongly empathising with the lgbt community and being an ally turning to a strong hatred where you view the lgbt (or alphabet as he said) as perverted. it’s very concerning how much he seems to lack a genuine grasp of his own identities and opinions and seems to be so stuck into his current ideologies to the point he says he will never, and he emphasises that again, go back to any former opinions. i hope he can get a proper grasp on himself as an individual and form his own opinions and such.
@RomyElizabeth
@RomyElizabeth 8 ай бұрын
amen 🙏 that guy is lost
@josiestephens1671
@josiestephens1671 8 ай бұрын
Yeah I agree. Everyone else had reasoning and stuck to their own.
@chicken122333
@chicken122333 8 ай бұрын
He’s just young and learning . Y’all need to have grace. Like calm down..
@alliebkeck4898
@alliebkeck4898 8 ай бұрын
Poor guy is just stuck. I wish the best for him.
@113wy
@113wy 8 ай бұрын
@@chicken122333 when did i seem as if i wasn’t calm?
@gracieallan8145
@gracieallan8145 5 ай бұрын
This was my favorite so far of all the middle ground episodes
@TheStylelike16th
@TheStylelike16th 7 ай бұрын
This was such a great conversation. Thank you for all of the participants who shared their opinions. I definitely enjoyed questioning my beliefs and reinforcing some others.
@bbeth4
@bbeth4 8 ай бұрын
Bro how did the blond girl say she would never cut someone off for their political beliefs but then say if you have pronouns in your bio that means she can assume where your beliefs lie in a lot of areas and she stays away… like the hypocrisy is pretty unreal
@Indie_Live
@Indie_Live 8 ай бұрын
It's not necessarily that she would cut them off, she just knows what their personality is like and how they act, which is what she stays away from.
@bbeth4
@bbeth4 8 ай бұрын
@@Indie_Livelike don’t get me wrong she was acc one of my favourites and I agreed with a lot of her view points but I still feel those too sentences sooo close to each other was a bit wild 😂
@westonnorthington8717
@westonnorthington8717 8 ай бұрын
cognitive dissonance baby
@ppgurl420
@ppgurl420 8 ай бұрын
​@@Indie_Livethat sounds like profiling to me
@Indie_Live
@Indie_Live 8 ай бұрын
@@ppgurl420 probably is, but if you have seen a specific trait in a lot of really annoying people would you really want to start talking to people with that trait? Probably not
@tyborg314
@tyborg314 8 ай бұрын
the reason why this was so pleasant is because both sides have empathy for their previous positions. Also, there's always that voice inside that still agrees with your previous positions whether or not you no longer cognitively or intellectually agree with it.
@Seantherightway06
@Seantherightway06 8 ай бұрын
As someone who has changed their beliefs drastically over the past decade, this is something that I have struggled with at times, as well as why I feel this might be one of the best episodes yet.
@Dr.Hussein-gi3ue
@Dr.Hussein-gi3ue 8 ай бұрын
Not true, conservatives are psychologically incapable of feeling empathy
@Godredstudios
@Godredstudios 8 ай бұрын
Yea except for Javen ofc
@empressofawesome7099
@empressofawesome7099 8 ай бұрын
I didn't think about this. Yes, I feel they DID listen to each other & have more empathy etc. more than some people in some other episodes and maybe the reason you said is why, cos they DO have empathy for their previous positions.
@vincerexwinkel3489
@vincerexwinkel3489 6 ай бұрын
the maturity of the discussion between everyone was great
@wizzteck07
@wizzteck07 8 ай бұрын
Very interesting video. I think it’s a bummer that the moderator sometimes wants to „pull it back“. I get that that’s what moderators do in discussions but they always choose moments where the participants really start to get into it.
@kim-jong-un8096
@kim-jong-un8096 8 ай бұрын
javen sounds like he doesn’t even believe what he’s saying 😭
@MK-wx5vu
@MK-wx5vu 2 ай бұрын
He sounds like he's been heavily brainwashed lol
@Darth_Tuna
@Darth_Tuna 2 ай бұрын
Disagree
@drankinmycup69
@drankinmycup69 2 ай бұрын
@@MK-wx5vuexactly, How can he just go against his own family members who are trans? it doesn’t make sense.
@genjiplayz590
@genjiplayz590 26 күн бұрын
@@MK-wx5vu No he hasn't lmao
@d2cardboardnovice169
@d2cardboardnovice169 22 күн бұрын
@@MK-wx5vuno he is a conservative so the opposite of brainwashed.
@lauren8135
@lauren8135 8 ай бұрын
That one chick confidently getting angry about pronouns and not having the first clue what they are, honestly I’m not surprised she ended up conservative with those solid reasoning skills.
@danieldenton5721
@danieldenton5721 8 ай бұрын
No one should be forced to call anyone a pronoun that does not fit the G they are. We don't have to live in a lie.
@zachary9385
@zachary9385 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@danieldenton5721do people who change their names also live in a lie? To me changing your pronouns just seems like a way of expressing yourself how you see fit.
@AristaRuMora
@AristaRuMora 8 ай бұрын
​@@danieldenton5721Congratulations, you just used the singular "they" without any trouble.
@hang3stitan138
@hang3stitan138 8 ай бұрын
@@danieldenton5721 bro forgot he’s supposed to be against the „they“ pronoun💀💀
@apieceofschmitt
@apieceofschmitt 8 ай бұрын
@@zachary9385 Gender pronouns are not personal identifiers, they are third party language to define a subject of conversation. It seems far more offensive to me to believe the common usage of gender pronouns are to reveal an aspect our own's unique and complex identity. If you think he/she/they are used to reveal one's gender identity, I must reject them all as I oppose the manifestation of an identity through a concept of "gender", however such is to be defined.
@Mackenziie3
@Mackenziie3 8 ай бұрын
This was a great episode. Nice comversation
@cookie_monster783
@cookie_monster783 7 ай бұрын
Emily’s so uneducated tho 😭😭😭
@hungrygarfield
@hungrygarfield 7 ай бұрын
Got secondhand embarrassment from her fr
@topsenMusic
@topsenMusic 8 ай бұрын
Hunter is the smartest person in that room and he spoke the least. The biggest problem in American society is that idiots speak the loudest.
@user-yg9wx1sc2l
@user-yg9wx1sc2l 8 ай бұрын
He spoke a lot but jubilee cut it out, Probably to make it seem like an even discussion.
@zr1129
@zr1129 8 ай бұрын
We have too many Emilys and not enough Hunters.
@Lilyium
@Lilyium 8 ай бұрын
Kari was also very articulated and spoke very concisely.
@shani5345
@shani5345 8 ай бұрын
How was he the smartest person?
@GS2k4
@GS2k4 8 ай бұрын
Hunter avallone is a 🤡
@anovosedlik
@anovosedlik 8 ай бұрын
'It was very very very traumatic to become conservative' says Javen after his whole 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps and don't complain' speech? Wow.
@ZeldaKid5000
@ZeldaKid5000 8 ай бұрын
Found that comment hilarious considering it is literaly impossible to pull yourself up by your bootstraps. Like the physics doesn't work, and it says so much about that particular saying
@dirock_1518
@dirock_1518 8 ай бұрын
Also the fact that his traumatic story was literally just having a transgender family member?? But then claims the other side is too emotional.
@erileigh969
@erileigh969 8 ай бұрын
I thought the "bootstraps" type didn't believe in trauma...or mental health for that matter...🙃
@saramysko1022
@saramysko1022 8 ай бұрын
Its a phrase/metaphor. “A metaphor is a figure of speech that describes an object or action in a way that isn't literally true, but helps explain an idea or make a comparison.” Classic liberal making decisions based off of an emotional base rather than a logical one.😂
@anovosedlik
@anovosedlik 8 ай бұрын
@@saramysko1022 And you are the definition of the Dunning-Kruger effect. None of us here needed you to copy and paste the definition of a metaphor, sweetie. Zelda is correct. A metaphor only works if the premises are 1:1. The bootstrap metaphor is using a physical scenario in order to illustrate an abstract concept. However, the scenario isn't possible according to the laws of physics and therefore, the metaphor doesn't make any sense because you cannot equate it to the situation abstractly. If, physically, it were possible to pick yourself up by your bootstraps, the metaphor would hold water. I know you're a little lacking in brain cells, so please just do a little more reading on parts of speech. Abstract thinking is clearly not your strength.
@wiballaonasiaa1
@wiballaonasiaa1 2 ай бұрын
This was extremely well done, all of them had great talks.
@ivocanevo
@ivocanevo 26 күн бұрын
I watch a lot of things and this was the most thought-provoking piece I've seen in a long time. I think the "former ___" idea is brilliant, and we should have more of it. Everybody seemed to have a certain humility about the other side and it led to some very honest conversation rather than conflict. I'm going to watch it again.
@AaronBrooks0321
@AaronBrooks0321 8 ай бұрын
Javen is a true follower. I dont think he's formulated any of his own thoughts his entire life
@robertraab
@robertraab 8 ай бұрын
Seriously, is there a single strawman he didn't regurgitate?
@WhensMahvel
@WhensMahvel 8 ай бұрын
I don't think there was a single pulse of independent thought there breh.
@TonkaJay
@TonkaJay 8 ай бұрын
Yes. That is exactly Hunter.
@Shockkings0714
@Shockkings0714 8 ай бұрын
Why do you say this?
@kpoverloaddd
@kpoverloaddd 8 ай бұрын
@@Shockkings0714because he doesn’t have a clue what he’s saying. just regurgitated takes he’s heard from everyone else in his life
@isabella4793
@isabella4793 8 ай бұрын
Emily is the definition of louder, not smarter
@Big617E
@Big617E 4 ай бұрын
What did she say that was wrong or crazy Cause I had to have missed it ???
@dianeyoung8130
@dianeyoung8130 4 ай бұрын
@@Big617E i mean there was a whole section where she outed herself as someone who doesn't know basic grammar.
@Najmille
@Najmille 3 ай бұрын
It’s hypocritical to act like pronouns don’t mean a specific thing in that context
@ki57852
@ki57852 3 ай бұрын
@@dianeyoung8130but that was ONE thing out of the entire discussion… other than that what was she so wrong about?
@grenademaster8981
@grenademaster8981 3 ай бұрын
It makes sense that she used to be liberal...that's basically their whole platform. Louder, not smarter.
@joemiller7082
@joemiller7082 2 ай бұрын
Ranked Choice voting, friends. That’s how multiple parties get done.
@jazzkid7206
@jazzkid7206 7 ай бұрын
“Never say never… cause you’ve already changed once”😭😭😭
@finlaing795
@finlaing795 8 ай бұрын
These people don't realise just HOW conservative Hunter used to be. Buddy had a revelation
@jamorains
@jamorains 8 ай бұрын
no, he found a liberal girlfriend
@Zenith9132
@Zenith9132 8 ай бұрын
You can kinda tell by his name lol
@greencreekranch
@greencreekranch 8 ай бұрын
@@Zenith9132 it does not stop to amaze me, that the last pres election was between a dude whose sons are named Donald and Eric and a dude whose sons are called Hunter and Beau. If you knew none of them, i feel like theres no way youd correctly guess their party affiliation
@RextheRebel
@RextheRebel 8 ай бұрын
Unironically saying "pick yourself up by your bootstraps" makes anything else you say largely irrelevant. Tough love is very important, but tough love is not the same as being completely hands off and letting people suffer needlessly.
@dreamcoyote
@dreamcoyote 8 ай бұрын
Yep. Thankfully these days the original meaning of that phrase is coming back to cultural understanding. It's literally an impossible task and worded that way. Kind of makes me want to see where that meaning flip flopped, who brought it about, and if it was intentional.
@jessycac6311
@jessycac6311 8 ай бұрын
I agree, some people are born without any hypothetical “boot straps” to lift themselves up with (or would hands be better to say?). It’s our duty as a society to help people who need it, as it also helps us as a collective.
8 ай бұрын
But the thing is Republicans back school choice, birthing centers, and have charites for widows and single mothers. Republicans are significantly more charitable than Liberals. So we put our money where it counts.
@kpstl26
@kpstl26 8 ай бұрын
​@@jessycac6311you're still not understanding. The whole point is it doesn't matter if you have them or not, it's physically impossible to lift yourself up using them.
@Rizzler68.9
@Rizzler68.9 8 ай бұрын
It’s definitely possible
@eu4ik_
@eu4ik_ Ай бұрын
the closet is glass javen
@charmin6657
@charmin6657 21 күн бұрын
“i used to be a huge ally of the lgbt community” i wonder why 💅💅
@anonymouskat6661
@anonymouskat6661 8 ай бұрын
I loved this discussion. Huge respect to everyone in this video for being so open about their views.
@y4bujeans
@y4bujeans 8 ай бұрын
the blonde girl who called pronouns delusional but 100% goes by she/her lmaoooo
@takentimes8903
@takentimes8903 8 ай бұрын
would you say hey her or hey she? haha So she believes in the meaning of words. Maybe you do not comprehend what a pronoun is.
@kinglouie9685
@kinglouie9685 8 ай бұрын
​@@takentimes8903she doesn't know what a pronoun is and got called out about it 🤷🏽‍♂️
@takentimes8903
@takentimes8903 8 ай бұрын
@@kinglouie9685 please define pronoun and how it is used with some example. thank you.
@jeffreychandler8418
@jeffreychandler8418 8 ай бұрын
@@takentimes8903 I'm going to assume you're not braindead Definition: a word that can function by itself as a noun phrase and that refers either to the participants in the discourse (e.g., I, you ) or to someone or something mentioned elsewhere in the discourse (e.g., she, it, this ). I just used "you're", that's a pronoun. You also you used "you" multiple times. As for the second part of that definition, "...mentioned elsewhere". we can easily say "Emily was a former liberal. She believe in this this and this. The group believed her when she said this". It's not hard when you have a 2nd grade reading level.
@takentimes8903
@takentimes8903 8 ай бұрын
@@jeffreychandler8418 A pronoun also refers to gender and there are 2 genders. And for you last sentence I believe you might have made to the 3rd grade and that is giving you the benefit of the doubt. if you reply I might change my mind and my pronoun for the night is king.
@rlrcia
@rlrcia 8 ай бұрын
So refreshing to listen to a civil discussion as opposed to Blossom and Blaire.
@samj5183
@samj5183 8 ай бұрын
Blossom and Blair, it sounds like a 90s sitcom 😂
@adyanuwu8690
@adyanuwu8690 8 ай бұрын
blossom* only 👀
@aloe704
@aloe704 8 ай бұрын
@@samj5183 HAHAHA
@gonaedeath2
@gonaedeath2 8 ай бұрын
Those two together was brutal
@erenjaeger1738
@erenjaeger1738 8 ай бұрын
​@@samj5183blosson *testosterone* kick in thats y
@MathematicFanatic
@MathematicFanatic Ай бұрын
This was a great episode they were all pretty kind and receptive
@RevanX
@RevanX 16 күн бұрын
As a moderate conservative, Keri is the only conservative panel guest that I respect intellectually. No offense but the other three don't seem very intelligent.
@ShinyGolduck5
@ShinyGolduck5 8 ай бұрын
Hunter was spot on about, both sides having tribalistic tendencies.
@kingpandaman6411
@kingpandaman6411 8 ай бұрын
He has a KZbin channel btw hunter avallone
@amberjulia123
@amberjulia123 8 ай бұрын
Except when the prompt of “Changing political sides was traumatic for me” came on - *every* former liberal stepped forward, whilst only 1 former conservative stepped forward (and she was the one raised in a weirdly religious family). IMO, if both sides were equally tribalistic and cultish - then an even amount of people from *both* sides would have stepped forward on that prompt.
@pianoman3255
@pianoman3255 8 ай бұрын
​@amberjulia123 these are 4 peoples anecdotal experiences. You cannot use anecdotes with sample size this small to draw conclusions.
@smalmon
@smalmon 8 ай бұрын
@@amberjulia123 Sampling bias. There's no way a group of 10 people can represent Americans equally. Even if what you're saying is true, it doesn't change the fact that the two party system is very polarizing. I'm sure hundreds of thousands or millions of both former Republicans and Democrats have had traumatic experiences switching sides. But saying one is side is worse at something than the other is very polarizing to both sides.
@YehudiNimol
@YehudiNimol 8 ай бұрын
​@@amberjulia123conformation bias. You can't see the full picture when the video only presents the expeirences of 8 people out of tens of thousands. Also note that many of the people i Jubilee's videos are influencers and aren't picked randomly
@CadiganColeman
@CadiganColeman 8 ай бұрын
I’d love to also see another liberal vs conservative but this time with a couple people from each generation (gen Z, millennials, gen x, and baby boomers). I think a lot of interesting points could be brought up with a diverse age group who have lived through many different experiences!
@Uchiha_D._Ackerman
@Uchiha_D._Ackerman 8 ай бұрын
This! 100% agree!
@caffeinatedshawty
@caffeinatedshawty 8 ай бұрын
YES!!!
@Bruncleboxtop
@Bruncleboxtop 8 ай бұрын
Gen Z Conservative versus Boomer Liberals would be FASCINATING
@CrankyBarista
@CrankyBarista 8 ай бұрын
Ive noticed they do tend to leave out gen x in most extreme opposite episodes. It seems like its always boomers vs zoomers.
@XanaxMilf
@XanaxMilf 8 ай бұрын
@@Bruncleboxtop they already did that.
@imanix5117
@imanix5117 7 ай бұрын
Lady in green and the guy with locs naileddddd it
@RaxLakhani
@RaxLakhani 4 ай бұрын
Why hasn't @jubilee added video chapter headings for this evening episode? It really would help viewers to skip to specific prompt questions. I'd say this is a basic feature that seasoned KZbin Channel creators such as @jubilee should be incorporating consistently across all its content.
@mekyle_ely
@mekyle_ely 8 ай бұрын
I love this group. No one was talking over each other had respect for each other's opinion
@ethandollarhide7943
@ethandollarhide7943 8 ай бұрын
Emily literally doesn't understand pronouns.
@triple_gem_shining
@triple_gem_shining 8 ай бұрын
Ze zim zerrrrrrre
@triple_gem_shining
@triple_gem_shining 8 ай бұрын
From now on refer me to as invader zim 😂😂😂
@ajs1998
@ajs1998 8 ай бұрын
@@ethandollarhide7943 Or what "ironically" means. She just throws it in wherever.
@ethandollarhide7943
@ethandollarhide7943 8 ай бұрын
@@triple_gem_shining Ok.
@gracegoodwin2272
@gracegoodwin2272 8 ай бұрын
Javen is disturbing honestly… he’s saying he went from supporting his LGBT family members to thinking they are perverse/offensive. That’s f-ed up
@kateofone
@kateofone 3 ай бұрын
Yeah it’s insane
@heistbros8575
@heistbros8575 3 ай бұрын
Not really, same way kids who grew up a pastors kid can come to hating their parents for preaching.
@AntiTMG
@AntiTMG 3 ай бұрын
Well it doesn’t help when yaw wanna get close with kids and tell them about your sex lives
@jake-lynndobos659
@jake-lynndobos659 3 ай бұрын
​@AntiTMG saying hey some people are boys who like boys, girls who like girls. Isn't the same as saying hey let me tell you about this one time that I 69ed...
@RetroMMA
@RetroMMA 3 ай бұрын
Because it's gross and demands you celebrate it...
@caldatv4551
@caldatv4551 Ай бұрын
The guy with dreadlocks is so smart. He was spitting facts! The girl with a blonde hair was the exact opposite. She was an empty can.
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