Conservatives Are Mad At A Kids' Movie Again

[@SkyeSoleil]

They need to make a live action Bee Movie. But they won’t. Because they’re cowards

[@thewickeddevilofthewest]

Unironically I would watch that

[@caseyw.6550]

I hate u 😂😂😂

[@genevieve7676]

I'd watch it if Ken gets to win this time.

[@deen7530]

This just made me realize the clock is ticking on a live-action Bee Movie adult sequel about Vanessa and Barry's relationship that's trying to mimic the success of Barbie but fails

[@caseyw.6550]

@@genevieve7676 agreed! I'm so sick of seeing asshole beefy white men lose! 😭

[@awkwardcutie]

My short answer as a Scandinavian is: the original is already inaccurate to viking history

[@idi0tsanswich379]

Don't be silly.. everyone knows dragons are real and black people arent... definitely

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Nah dude dragons are real.

[@jacefromanotherworld]

​@@PlatinumAltariafr!

[@triciad4100]

@@PlatinumAltaria a dragøn once bit my sister.

[@JoF999]

​@@aesop1451I don't think we can blame diverse casting for the rise of the far right. We can blame racism for that.

[@deen7530]

They hate it because it has a black girl in it. I hate it because it's the embodiment of corporate greed and laziness, shot-for-shot remaking an animated film that's not even that old and that aged really well, and shows firsthand how capitalism is the death of art. We are not the same.

[@TheBlackPanther05]

Say it louder for those in the back.

[@boyo45321]

I actually hate the entire cast for the movie, I’m not a conservative, I’m gay trans and mixed race. They didn’t cast any character with anyone who looks like the originals so I don’t think it’s supposed to be a copy of the original. Which would make sense but at the same time they should’ve just left it all alone and not made the live action in the first place. They left it with a good ending and should’ve kept it that way

[@QueenOfKarma]

WE are the same though sinner!!

[@Tvaikah]

@@boyo45321 If people quit being slop-hungry pigs and paying to see this stuff, it would stop being made.

[@alcremiecutie334]

I hate it for both of those reasons

[@slowstowns]

i guarantee they would have no issue with "race-swapping" if they cast the villain as a person of color

[@CrystalSki67]

CORRECT

[@TheBlackPanther05]

Clock THAT Tea!

[@Rainfire-forgets-to-animate]

I bet they wouldn't be mad either if a character of color got replaced a white person :(

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

They would.

[@CrystalSki67]

@ibrahimihsan2090 Guardians of the Galaxy race swapped its villain and nobody even mentioned it.

[@HamiltonIsLife]

Ngl as a black woman I’m sick of them putting us in this position to be hated.

[@oq1106]

I'm usually on the side of the argument that wants representation done in a way thats supported by writing and not just a cosmetic aspect of a character. But if these people manage to make people that are mixed race (twice over) scared of taking a "white role", then I'm back to 'let them have it' on principle. Bullying should not be rewarded.

[@blkloislane]

Me too. I support her no matter what but going through this same bs over and over is a lot.

[@Gen_-6012]

I’m not black, but I feel the same way. Like I, a normal person, don’t care if they wanna make a character black. But because there are so many racist weirdos, the black actors that play these characters end up suffering the most from the backlash. I remember when Annie 2014 came out. So many ppl were being racist and hateful because Annie was black. Any attention is good attention to the company’s. When they make characters black they know they are gonna get both good and negative press. I don’t care if they wanna make characters black. I have so many white characters to choose from. Nothing is being taken from me. But when it comes to ppls favorite characters they get protective. And I just feel so bad for the black actors that become the topic of a controversy that of a they didn’t start.

[@misanthropicblackchick6092]

I am too. It just puts a big target on our backs. And while I support it, it does still feel lazy that they cast a young woman of color into a role who was originally white in a remake that no one asked for, instead of allowing black animators to create original stories with black characters.

[@laurenrenfro8288]

As a white person I'm sorry they're putting an entire race in a position where they're going to be attracted and harmed. I'd love to live in a world where casting was based on talent alone. But that's sadly not the case. I'm sorry my race of people suck so much! We're truly the worst.

[@nelinav1396]

“mally mouse” sounds so exhausting irl. i would hate to be even two minutes in the same room with her.

[@roxassora2706]

"Voting for Kamala makes me want to be a sexist pick me"

[@soupy_soup2]

She seems miserable tbh

[@wh4teley]

One of those people who thinks an indignant tone and arched eyebrow makes her opinion valid.

[@perpetualsick]

her over-exaggerated conservative bs mixed with a weird millennial humor/vibes is so grating. I can deal with a millennial humor when it’s hurting no one, but this…

[@blkgoth_]

​@@perpetualsick Literally 😭

[@angeesg7190]

Funny thing is, Astrid wasn’t even in the original book the movie is based of; so accurate adaptation wouldn’t even have her character

[@LadyKnightMare]

I was just thinking about that! I find it especially hilarious when racists use the excuse of “inaccurate adaptation” to characters that would by their logic already have been misinterpreted. Like, where’s the outrage that the original movie changed Toothless’ literal species? At least if they also complained about that I could respect their dedication to the insanity. But you bring up Astrid wasn’t even a book character and suddenly that’s not what they’re talking about. 🤔

[@perpetualsick]

@@aesop1451 why is it such an issue?

[@cocod916]

@@aesop1451i promise you it isnt that serious .

[@Lemon_Goddess]

This is actually how I wish they would do the live actions, make them darker and more adult and follow that OG story bros, like let’s be real, a live action, book accurate Coraline would be HORRIFIC… I need it 😂😂😂

[@439801RS]

Yeah her argument is inherently flawed cause ots not based on the source material. That's not to say that an adaptation can't change things, but if you're gonna argue about accuracy, base it on the actual source...

[@meldoesntwanttotellyouthei7012]

People are mad that Elphaba is black? Ignoring the themes of the show, it’s a MUSICAL! Broadway casting is RACE BLIND! There are so many different casts, it’s not just one person every time.

[@sorath1396]

I thought Elphaba was green

[@minako10]

@@sorath1396 She is, but some people were not happy about Cynthia Erivo (a black actress) playing her in the film adaptation, which is idiotic given the themes explored both in the stage show and the novel it was adapted from.

[@S-pw2jh]

Also it’s a big deal that she’s being played by a black person! 99% of Elphabas are white I have noting against those actresses but people want to see people of color as her and this is a great step

[@PlatinumAltaria]

Daily reminder that she isn't even green in the book, but weirdly no one has ever mentioned greenness being a problem... curious.

[@Dither87]

Agreed wholeheartedly. As a former theater kid, this always pisses me off. It goes to show these losers never cared to understand what goes into making films and such. This is literally how casting works. It's who fits the role the best. My first reaction was, "Oh. I've never seen Elphaba cast as a black woman before. Good for her!".

[@あまにたLR]

“Oh no!! It has wider diversity than what my tiny mind can handle!!” Honestly, it’s a kids movie and they need to complain; about something better

[@GE3P_GL0RP]

adults being mad at this reminds me of how i tried to check out a lgbt+ history book and then found out they're banned. WHY DO YALL CARE ABOUT CHILDREN SEEING DIVERSITY 😭😭😭😭

[@victoriabrown6561]

They're terrified it might "tUrN tHeiR cHiLd gAy" (just let their kids watch WAP immediately afterwards to turn them straight again since that's how they think this shit works 💀)

[@sniggy412]

/s Because if we introduce children to the full spectrum of humanity and different cultures/subcultures early they may not learn to share the same outdated, problematic, hateful ideas and we simple CANT have that what do we want a bunch of hippies going around being NICE to each other???

[@ibrahimihsan2090]

With regards to HTTYD, I don't care really since the animated franchise had a few Black people here and there too and had a few anachronisms as well so the idea of a version of Astrid having Black ancestry isn't wild to me in a franchise that never cared too much about historical accuracy either(they had a minor character named freaking Chagatai Khan in the third movie, which is set centuries before the birth of the historical Chaghatai Khan). Though I am confident Nico Parker's portrayal of her won't change any character lore of her in this remade movie so these guys are just plain stupid for complaining about it. With regards to the LGBT stuff, you are either irreligious, identify with a religion but also politically identify as liberal, a bit too horny or you're stupid. As far as religious people like me are concerned, those "diverse" books may as well be CP. And if you want to appeal to the "But same sex partners can consent, children can't. Big difference" argument, then it's hardly any different than CONSENSUAL inc*st stuff. I mean, would it be okay if they were both infertile?! Or siblings of the same sex?! For your kind information, sodomy(a man penetrating another man) is so horrible a deed that they need to be literally stoned to end their life as a merciful punishment. Yes, that's how horrible of a crime it is. Only thing worse is I guess incest and bestiality and that's just a guess. Lesbianism isn't as bad but it's definitely horrible and deserving of severe punishment. Why should people just ignore that FACT just so a bunch of degenerates who love to engage in inhuman acts could be degenerates who love to engage in inhuman acts?! There should be no tolerance for crimes worthy of getting stoned to death as mere punishment. That is no more diversity than representation of necrophiliacs and grapists as heroes.(And those existed in some ancient polytheistic mythologies).

[@sackfu7952]

If children are allowed to think for themselves they might come to the conclusion that capitalism is designed to only benefit the rich and powerful and fuck over everyone else. That's why we have to control them and treat them like property instead of people and not tell them about all the fucked up racism this country was founded on so they don't get any ideas of white people being the bad guys in this story.

[@Laylaunicornlover2]

It's ok for children to know that different people like different people, and that people like their own gender, but when they see overly sexualized lgbt things, that becomes a problem, because children shouldn't see sexual things, period.

[@sierrajohnson717]

Conservatives be upset at ultra regulated/pasturized content, but won’t complain about the weird hypersexual stuff that makes it to kids KZbin. You never hear conservatives talk about Elsagate or big boobed Digital circus animations or anything that has content that’s ACTUALLY bad for kids. Wild

[@jaxj968]

THIS

[@gardenthefermentingsound6218]

Yeah why the hell don't conservatives give a crap about Elsagate or kids' roblox yt channels

[@catdownthestreet]

​@@ville-c4u Bot

[@RedDeadDevilTrigger]

@@ville-c4ufym nobody cares

[@idontknow2469]

They think that using kids makes it seem like their hatred is valid. They don't actually care about the kids.

[@prophextina]

I think if Mally Mouse took 30 seconds to look up America Ferrera’s Wikipedia page she’d immediately evaporate into dust like some kind of racist vampire.

[@aesop1451]

Ferrera played Astrid in the animated movie. Scott Weinger played Aladdin.

[@theShcrunkly]

This guy just can't stop liking his own replies 😂

[@Alexardelean89]

Hahaha.

[@magnasollertia4665]

i actually wonder if she thinks america ferrera is white because her name is america 💀

[@OfJournalandJourney]

Spontaneous Combust

[@quesarahsarah5026]

My kid says Hiccup doesn't look pathetic enough. I concur. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@ThatFont]

Genuinely agree. That actor is not the vibe. I hope he proves us wrong when it’s released.

[@risxra]

LMAO the real important casting issues😂

[@nemo_is_real]

he really doesnt look as sopping wet as he did in the actual movie

[@josephblaiddyd]

He needs to be an actual nerd. He looks like what TikTok thinks nerds look like. I hate it

[@aephoes]

REAL

[@Ranboo-The-Beloved]

HTTYD is a fictional series, not a historical documentary. the literal first page in the first book says "WARNING: Any relationships to any historical fact WHATSOEVER is entirely coincidental, YOU HABE BEEN WARNED"

[@sinnamonshoggoth2928]

15:33 does she… not know that voodoo is real? Like that it’s a real religion and cultural practice? Or is she just being Extra Racist by conflating a non-white spirituality with “magic”?

[@GinnyRamone]

Both. Definitely both.

[@curple3]

Definitely both, but mostly the latter. She most likely sees voodoo as the racist caricature it has been turned into since the 18th century while at the same time making the conscious decision to remain wilfully ignorant about anything pertaining to African histories and cultures. And even if she bothered to read into it, she'd probably shrug it off as "dumb senseless superstition", she's giving such strong r/atheism vibes.

[@kianamoore5390]

Phew, this is taking me back to the fiasco that was Rue during the release of hunger games 🫠 Amandla was a literal child and the racists were foaming at the mouth because of it

[@AnnamarieForcino]

I remember that too!! It was insane 😭 Also Rue is still one of the fictional deaths I've never gotten over

[@kianamoore5390]

@ same ! I cried during the book and the movie !

[@Loxalair]

And Rue was black in the book! It was book accurate but people were losing their shit at a child for no reason!

[@kianamoore5390]

@ yes! It was so wild ! For them to even do that to a child (even now with Nico) is just so awful to me

[@starlessskyline]

huh i missed that one

[@Yume_521]

"This is the answer google gave me after five whole seconds" that speaks volumes of her admiration, respect and knowledge of the history of Vikings

[@rockernessi]

she said it like it was some sort of ‘gotcha!’ but it really just spoke to how poor her ‘research’ was

[@ambersteward2373]

@@rockernessiright like clearly her brain stops after 5 seconds

[@clarbo3849]

As a born and bred Swede, I could not give a single fuck about the ethnicity of an animated character. Also, secondly, for the last fucking time, viking was an occupation, NOT an ethnicity.

[@potatokat8453]

This! It was literally a JOB!

[@Sammy-h4z]

That very interesting, idk it was a job.😂😂😂

[@Sinc3r3ly]

@@ville-c4uyou cared enough to reply

[@ChloeOHwowie]

@@ville-c4u so wack putting someone down for no reason and then even proving your comment wrong by replying in the first place 😂

[@violetbackedstarling]

ville is a bot, as per usual. report for the nazi dogwhistle and move on.

[@mttylerdurden9]

0:50 people say they want new original stories, but when they do come out, they barely get any support. Instead people give more attention to the remakes, sequels, and reboots.

[@ozvuchkibilla]

Wish and strange world, although, I think even Disney didn't care for strange world

[@random_dragon]

It doesn't help that the companies don't put much effort into anything new that they make

[@cupcakebruh]

15:42 also, Voodoo is real.. just not this magical thing that Disney portrays it as. Voodoo (also spelled as Vodou) is a religion that is still practiced by approximately 60 million people across West Africa, Haiti and the US. I don't personally practice voodoo, but I believe in certain spiritual aspects of the religion. I have a doll above my bedroom door that's supposed to protect me while I sleep.

[@jaxj968]

this is like when everyone went wild over how Annabeth Chase was played by a Black woman in the new live action Percy Jackson. Like babes…Rick Riordan, the author *literally* picked Leah Jeffries himself…

[@randomweirdo1639]

my "friend" was mad about this, but strangely didnt mind walker scobell as a blonde percy jackson. now i'm not saying its a double standard rooted in racism, but i am saying that their looks do not affect the story.

[@ADHDposterchild27]

fr though, proud of Leah for proving the haters wrong ❤

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

I was more annoyed about Walker Scobell being Percy as HE HAS NO BLACK HAIR ARGHHH

[@aesop1451]

We can definitely enjoy Leah's portrayal of Annabeth. Unlike, let's say, Rapunzel, her blond hair and her grey eyes were not important to the story at all. This Astrid situation is more like Rapunzel than Annabeth. Percy Jackson takes place in 21st century America. Annabeth could plausibly be black. But Astrid lives in Scandinavia in the Viking Age (800-1050). It's like casting Lupita Nyong'o as the live-action Rapunzel while keeping the setting and time period the same. The aesthetic of the Kingdom of Corona, Flynn Rider, and Mother Gothel are all kept the same...except for Rapunzel.

[@Cove_Blue]

​@@aesop1451 omg you're so boring

[@Downintheforest319]

Just wait till they find out that the original Astrid was played by an Latina woman

[@jojobizarrelivingstone594]

Huh wasn't it a black woman or are they biracial

[@aesop1451]

That's not egregious. Simba was played by Matthew Broderick even though the story takes place in Africa. Animation is inherently different than live-action, which is why live-action adaptations of anime are almost always universally despised. Imagine if in the 2019 "Lion King" they casted a zebra instead of a lion for Simba 🤣 That's the equivalent.

[@ethandollarhide7943]

​@@aesop1451" Imagine if they casted a Zebra instead of a Lion as Simba"- That is basically you saying that you view people of Non White races as another species and don't view them as Human.

[@ethandollarhide7943]

​@@aesop1451Comparing this casting to casting another species as Simba is actually an incredibly Dehumanizing thing to say. You're literally saying that you view people that aren't White as a different species.

[@Dirt_man_dirt]

They’ll throw a hissy fit about a slight skin color difference from the animated movie because they’re “fans” but won’t even know that there are books let alone that the story is totally different from the movie

[@lottiebackhouse2669]

the thing that annoys me is that instead of race swapping into live action (which completely not a real world issue) is that the money for that movie could instead be put into a new storyline about different cultures and representation to open up the dialogue

[@lurachr]

dude you care enough to have replied to like every comment ​@@ville-c4u

[@sketchiscribblr8285]

Hell, this live action movie could have been about a new generation of vikings doing (the more tame, kids version of) what vikings do and setting out to explore even further reaches. Surely there are other populations of dragons. Some, likely _most_ in fact, of them are bound to have been outside Toothless' influence, so maybe the new generation hitched a ride on some migratory dragons and they ended up far from home among a culture new to them.

[@ForrestFox626]

​@@ville-c4uThe lighting bolts?

[@Heyden_Weid]

@@ForrestFox626either they’re a nazi because of the ss lightning bolts. Or they’re adding emphasis. It’s such an odd choice of emoji, I’m not entirely sure of their intentions

[@mumenRhyder]

Yesss

[@JackyDomashinski]

The comparison to Princess and the Frog is wild because as mentioned in the video, her being black is a central part of the story. Astrid being white is really not all that important and tbh even the Viking thing isn’t that important because there isn’t all that much about Viking culture in the movie. A lot of their culture is centered around dragons which, as many people may not know, aren’t real.

[@Itsatragedeigh]

12:27 stealing culture? America stole their actual ancestors

[@krift1414]

And bought them from the blacks that were selling their own people…..

[@joshuaburgess9906]

No, their actual ancestors sold them to us

[@Itsatragedeigh]

@@joshuaburgess9906 big difference, you’re right

[@TheCoolJavelin7]

Colonizers

[@kuckag5710]

"disrespectfull to astrids legacy" do they think she was a real person??

[@AnnamarieForcino]

Well, yes!

[@starlessskyline]

​@@damien4969/s right

[@Medic3685]

​@damien4969 because Astrid's race is SO relevant to the plot. Also, the black panther is a title given (at least in the movies) to royalty. Sooooo, hypothetically yes, there could absolutely be a white black panther if they gain enough respect in Wakanda and marry into royalty, later having a royal (and white) child, eligible to be the "black panther." Who knows.

[@sarahryu7467]

They say ABSOLUTELY anything just to prove the point that they don't want to see black plp in general

[@MaxineIsFrustrated]

​​@@damien4969the main part of his story was his culture as with most black main characters. Try again, girly😊

[@EasterWitch]

Ugh! I hate people claiming cultural appropriation for cultures they are no a part of. As a Scandinavian I could not care less about a live action Astrid's race. As you said: Vikings were an occupation, not a race. And yes, we do have evidence of Vikings of different races.

[@aesop1451]

They were exceptions. There are records of one black guy in 1500s Japan that we barely know anything about and Ubisoft made a whole a55 game about him called "Assassin's Creed Shadows."

[@jijitters]

@@aesop1451 So? Why does that bother you? You're a very silly person.

[@SophieRoseLive]

​@@aesop1451something tells me you didn't get mad about nioh

[@3enn7]

​@@aesop1451 and that bothers you how? Tf does that have to do with anything

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

They should be upset that a nepo baby has the role. I don't care about anyone's race but nepotism is a big issue. So many went went to acting schools and can't even get a commercial.

[@Smiley_Fruitcake]

"distorting history" Dragons arent real and 'viking' was originally a verb

[@jaxj968]

oh really?

[@idontknow2469]

Also, the movie is gonna be in English for the right-wingers whining, right? If they want true authenticity, they should watch it in Old Norse. Making it in modern English is distorting history!

[@valenti_no]

​@@ville-c4u Wow you're so edgy

[@manyratsinatube]

@@ville-c4u you've left a total of 50 comments of this type on this video alone. clearly you care

[@JP-hj1il]

Just giving y'all a heads up. This dude is one of the paid actors from a foreign country by our department of defense to create division and rage bait. The data showed it's about 1 in 3 comments are of the above.

[@ari1143]

I couldn’t care less about the race of the actors playing the characters, i’m just mad at the live action remake in itself 😭

[@taylerkolin3075]

For anyone who wants a little pallet cleanser of fun facts about how to train your dragon. The original author, Cressida Cowell, is kind of technically nobility. Her father is a a Viscount and while this doesn't pass down a noble title to her, it does give her the title of "The honorable". She's also married to the former director of the International Save the Children Alliance. And the island in the books is based off the small, unnamed island off the cost of Scotland she grew up on.

[@aquademoney]

i find it so funny that theyre constantly triggered by the tiniest of things let alone ppl just living their life how they want to seperately in general yet somehow WE’RE the “snowflakes”💀

[@TheBlackPanther05]

FR. The lack of self-awareness with these conservatives drives me up the damn wall.

[@idontknow2469]

"You're snowflakes" really just translates to, "I want to say slurs and you won't let me >:("

[@tuojiangoman3228]

Commenting before right-wing whiners pollute this comment section.

[@catdownthestreet]

​@@ville-c4u Bot

[@vegasa2067]

@@idontknow2469 with a dash of “Why won’t you let me insult you??!?!?! I should be able to insult you!!!!“

[@electricmosswitch]

She really said “I can believe fire-breathing dragons, but I draw the line at black vikings” She’s gunna lose it when she finds out which one of those two really existed

[@krift1414]

Dragons are part of european folklore, black vikings is just blacks wishing they were white, despite hating white people and culture.

[@GwenevereRuth]

Well put!

[@bunnyx0x0x03]

omlll lmaooo so true

[@Lola24691]

Lmao 😭✋

[@jessetaylor9685]

right? like do they not know about the raping and pillaging? cause that's a pretty significant factor here

[@jaymese.950]

As a norse pagan, AKA A VIKING ADJACENT, viking and paganism is open to all, anyone, no matter skin tone, I think she looks a lot like Astrid and I already love her (even though I won't be giving it any money)

[@madalice5134]

This! No Frith with bigots! The Gods don't hold with bigotry.

[@riot.-er5dx]

hey i’m a fellow pagan!!! always fun to see another in the wild :>

[@CoalBrando]

Seemed to care enough to comment lol?​@@ville-c4u

[@Lovethemoon555]

⁠yayyy I’m pagan too 💗

[@aesop1451]

Are you of Germanic descent? Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism are universalist. Hinduism has a caste system. Judaism establishes the concept of a "Chosen People." The native name for China is the "Middle Kingdom." Most paganisms didn't survive to the modern day, but they definitely existed along ethnic and cultural lines. Why would a 1st century Roman worship the Egyptian Horus over the Roman Jupiter? A few aristocrats that had the money and the interest would travel the ancient world to get initiated into all the mystery religions, but they were exceptions to the rule.

[@brynner_boutique]

My mom was SO MAD Elphiba was black for Wicked I was too tired to deal with her and I said “It’s a movie about witches, it’s not supposed to be accurate. It’s supposed to be entertaining, and Cynthia will portray it the best for entertainment. Elphiba is green and has no race, it doesn’t matter the race of who portrays her. It’s fiction, not accuracy.” She got silent 👍🏼

[@LilaTheMoo]

I love when people talk about trans people being mentally ill. Like... what are we to do to treat it if it is a mental illness? Probably see a doctor, get some medication to treat it? You know what, I'm behind that. Let's give every trans person out there who needs medical treatment the meds they need. I've heard of something called HRT that's supposed to be very effective and widely encouraged by the medical community to treat gender dysphoria.

[@MathematicalVoid]

Oh, they think it’s mental illness, alright. But I’m not sure if they believe in treating mental illness in any way besides going cold turkey.

[@AmyStrikesBack]

Honestly, live action remakes allways feel like the studios don't vailue animation

[@gardenthefermentingsound6218]

Agreed

[@idontknow2469]

It feels like they're too afraid to "waste" money on a potentially badly received movie, so they just keep making sequels and prequels and remakes and live actions because those stories worked before. It's killing creativity.

[@scootermcpeanuts6699]

Wholeheartedly agreed, that’s the real issue I have with this remake, who cares if one of the actors is a few shades darker than their animated counterpart, just stop churning out the live action remake slop.

[@irishalchemy]

I agree, yet still the live action remakes are usually flat and boring!

[@AmyStrikesBack]

@@ville-c4u damn you diden't even tried

[@turtlelongingforchaos9055]

A biracial person in a fictional tribe of vikings is less believable then the literal fucking dragons?

[@wuzittooya]

To white supremist racists it's a big problem, apparently

[@slsthewriter1299]

Not to mention vikings were effectively pirates, and traveled far, and there's even evidence that they got all the way to the Americas before Columbus. Like. It is not that far of a stretch to say they explored other races. 👀

[@samanthabutterfield5172]

You’re telling me the fictional society of Vikings with scottish and american accents and dragons isn’t believable?

[@Averybritishbear]

@@slsthewriter1299yeah like hypothetically if you had real Vikings you could have a Greek Sami and sub Saharan African because well they were slave traders they went were you could buy slaves

[@skybear17]

the crazy part is, she's not even biracial. she's a quarter black😭😭

[@Idunno-sm2nn]

Right wing people seeing girls hold hands in a kids movie in the 20th century: "Oh, they're best friends! How wholesome!" Right wing people seeing girls hold hands in a kids movie today: "THEY'RE HOLDING HANDS!? THIS IS INDOCTORNATING OUR CHILDREN!! 😡😡😡"

[@RedDeadDevilTrigger]

@@ville-c4uohhhh you’re a bot got it

[@venusluv-i1v]

@@ville-c4u Tell that to the conservatives whining about a kid's movie they probably were never going to see...

[@AndIThinkThisIsIt]

Now here! Read this bible before you burn in hell!

[@LydiosVidias]

They’re gonna be really upset when they remember her original voice actress was America Ferrera. You know, the famously HISPANIC ACTRESS. 😂😂

[@kristenrasmussen4135]

I don't think anyone is upset about that? A voice actor does not have a face in the movie, just a voice. If they look alike that's a cool little way to show love for the voice actor. Otherwise, they are just the voice.

[@catsuneniku]

Do conservatives care about anything other than hating people? genuinely.

[@catsuneniku]

Also as one of your trans sinners watching... Conservatives, please, I'm just a silly girl let me live

[@RasheedGazzi]

Answer: No

[@TheBlackPanther05]

No. That's literally their entire damn brand.

[@catsecon1653]

The world was such a better place before I knew who Mally Mouse was

[@ollieno971]

RIGHT

[@mothwingthemedicinecat]

agreed im not on tik tok so i had no idea who she was- and im like, what is Mally Mouse's problem?

[@izmochild9412]

@@mothwingthemedicinecat everything. Everything is her problem

[@mtneves77]

The mouse girl is the definition of a person who needs to calm down. Her vibe is like an offensively strong perfume.

[@Green_Guysssss]

i have an inside joke with myself where i tell homophobic people to listen to "you need to calm down" by taylor swift bc one of the lines is "shade never made anybody less gay" and the theme about the song is... you need to calm down. sorry my swiftie/gay brain can't think about anything else when i hear someone say you need to calm down lol :)

[@voiceofthelegion578]

Her vibe is if one thing goes wrong at the grocery store the whole staff is getting called slurs. Atrocious.

[@FG-tu4fq]

She's giving *millennial peaked in high school*

[@Arosukir6]

For real! Not *her* calling the *actors* "loud-mouthed." 😂😂

[@m3llo8an4t0s]

she emotes like a cartoon character. even pulled the dreamworks face at one point

[@lettersofapoet]

I stg it's kinda comical as a trans person randomly catching strays in conservative conversations that have nothing to do with us 💀 we are truly living rent free in their minds ✨

[@qryptid]

Right sometimes its like a jumpscare like boom! "The transgenders!" 😂

[@soupy_soup2]

Truly lmao. We’re just out here minding our own business and that makes people mad for some reason

[@romanticghost7508]

Absolutely, it’s so funny. They are always so annoyed by us living our lives.

[@BarbieDreamDungeon]

Me: chilling Conservatives: "disgusting!!!!"

[@Green_Guysssss]

wait wait wait... i thought you guys didn't exist????

[@StuMTG]

Exactly what I want when watching a Disney movie, historically accurate documentaries

[@daphnejohnson2259]

8:48 she doesn’t realize that the voice actor for Astrid wasn’t even a white woman 💀

[@ethansinclair1899]

I was going to say this mate 😂😂😂

[@-stephanie420]

It’s so funny that people like her call OTHER people triggered 💀

[@caseyw.6550]

She is SOOOO mad. 😂😂😂 Nothing makes me happier.

[@kewuofthedownside]

The irony of this is that Astrid was voiced by a Latina woman 💀💀💀

[@lazarus8018]

No! Next, you're gonna tell me that Kratos was voiced by a black man.

[@ezra5737]

is that not different considering its just voice acting? voice acting can be more effective when the actor relates to or embodies a character. but thats typically irrelevant since the actual character is a good representation of the group thats said to be represented.

[@kewuofthedownside]

@ezra5737 it's weird asf to claim something isn't accurate when Astrid was never played by a white woman with blonde hair from the get go.

[@FireNooodles]

​@kewuofthedownside But it's just her voice though? lmaooo her character isn't....Who in their right mind would look at a blonde animated viking character and think, "Oh yeah! Latina representation!" I'm sorry what 💀

[@ajeenius7437]

@@FireNooodles If all there was to a character was their skin and hair color you'd have a point. But I don't think I need to tell you that there's more than that?

[@aquademoney]

LMAO NOT HER CALLING IT “stealing culture” and “cultural appropriation” WTFFF SHES SO DELUSIONAL OMFG AND SHE JUST KEEPS GOING😭😭

[@jaxj968]

LITERALLYYYYYY

[@xx_b33_xx]

@@ville-c4uwe get it dude

[@SeasideDetective2]

Technically speaking, culture can't be stolen. It's not a material possession. You still have it even when someone else "uses" it.

[@kaideyn4007]

It is so surprising to how almost nobody my age knows that the r-word is a slur! Like my sister said it once and I told her don’t say that because it’s a slur, and she was so surprised! Like… the slur is so mainstream now that people don’t even know the real meaning to it anymore.

[@a1goldenrunner]

Have they ever heard of oh i dont know JUST IGNORING THE THING THAT UPSETS YOU SO MUCH?! Let people enjoy the movie, even if youre racist 🤣

[@Westgrey]

Conservatives always be complaining about the littlest things.

[@xx_b33_xx]

and then say WE are the snowflakes

[@lightofthelives]

​@@ville-c4u follow your leader.

[@aesop1451]

@@lightofthelives Follow my leader by winning the electoral college _and_ the popular vote? By holding the presidency, the House, the Senate, _and_ the Supreme Court?

[@ethandollarhide7943]

@aesop1451 Yes, Conservatives have all that and still act like they're an oppressed group when in reality they're still the group with the most members and their way of life is still the most accepted way to live your life.

[@gregoryvn3]

​@@aesop1451One person has not and cannot do all those things. Try making sense next time.

[@EmoKidforyou]

14:45 She’s yelling at transgender people and people that are not white yet she has bisexual lighting what is wrong with her

[@jacquelinewright868]

As a person who loves how to train your dragon, Astrid not being 100% white is fine! THERE ARE SCOTTISH/AMERICAN VIKINGS FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!! who fight dragons on the regular! There being people of other colours isn't THAT unrealistic.... (Edit: swapped calling her 'mix race' to 'not 100% white')

[@ForrestFox626]

My only issue with the live action HTTYD is, it's existence.

[@Urmumlel7025]

American?

[@Urmumlel7025]

​@@ForrestFox626 Anything is better than the 3rd film.

[@ForrestFox626]

@@Urmumlel7025 Fair enough

[@mossypop]

@@Urmumlel7025the main cast of kids all have American accents despite all the adults around them having Scottish ones

[@User02741]

What is it about conservatives and only watching mediocre kids movies?

[@apancake6632]

I’m so sick of this conversation about black roles. I think I stopped listening to people’s concerns after Leah Jeffries got cast as Annabeth and ppl sent a hate to a child on the internet. Ppl really show their true colors when a black actress is casted

[@maddy867]

4:55 "its an insult to astrids legacy" do they realise shes....yknow..... a fictional character?? shes NOT REAL 😭

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

Also what legacy??? She is such a boring character

[@aalmondmilk]

my jaw dropped when she said that cause literally what legacy 😭

[@AllMightyLordOfClams]

She also doesn’t exist in the book series the movies are based off of. She’s a movie retcon because they wanted to give hiccup a love interest

[@victoriabrown6561]

Never mind the fact that the movie franchise has only been around for 14 years 💀 Not even old enough to drive, come back in 10 or 20 years then you can talk about a character's legacy

[@MichaelaCloyd]

As a blonde haired, blue eyed viking descendant; I can firmly say this does not offend me in the slightest. I hope the best for 'the new Astrid' in her role!

[@princessnea2935]

@@ville-c4uyou obviously do if you feel the need to spam the comment. Just embarrassing yourself 😊

[@ForrestFox626]

I don't really want a live action HTTYD, but I wish the new Astrid the best of luck in her role

[@amberproctor3996]

​@@princessnea2935troll, Go find a bridge to rot under. Her giving her opinion on her family history, Confirming that race does not matter to her in this Situation IS Relevant Because she's committing about her history and under a video Discussing conservatives rage against anything that's not cis or white. Context does matter. You commented under a comment because YOU care. For no reason. By your own logic, you care to much and its gross.

[@sofiamorgan3756]

7:47 plus Wicked is shown in different Countries so yeah Elphaba can be Asian

[@MarshalMayhem]

I wonder if that tiktoker would be upset to find out that for Wicked black people have played both Galinda and Elphaba....

[@tuojiangoman3228]

This is literally the perfect explanation for the phrase “Ability over Appearance”.

[@animeotaku307]

@@ville-c4u You do, since you've been spamming this exact same comment in several replies.

[@princessnea2935]

@@animeotaku307rt like just embarrassing for them 😂

[@Preciouu]

As a artist who designs characters, the only person who "owns" the character is whoever designed it and if they don't care then no one else should BECAUSE ITS NOT THEIR CHARACTER OMG!

[@jasminethecreator19]

You make ocs? 👀

[@LadyLeopardd]

That woman seems beyond miserable. Has she not been outside? Literally no mature person cares about things like this.

[@therealhanjisung.ayedomino]

VIKING ISN'T A RACE BRO 😭😭😭

[@narem1092]

white people from Amerikka think it is, the "vikings" were everything they want to be,

[@taeynv_]

Fr, it's more like a "job"

[@krift1414]

Yes it is. Vikings are the Rus. The Rus are an ancient race of European navigators that were driven put of their home and survived some of the harshest habitats and thrived.

[@fornamnefternamn1532]

​@@krift1414 nope. The Rus are grouped into the Viking term but nope, not a "race". I would rather say that it's a profession (dra i viking) and that it became this romanticized name for a group when Scandinavian nationalists wanted to glorify their history. I don't even think Scandinavians contains that much "Viking blood" anymore. Probably more common ancestry on Iceland if I guess.

[@Wonyoungism_.defender]

⁠@@krift1414you’re wrong, being a Viking is a job, it actually was originally a verb, the people you named are Vikings but they don’t own that because it’s not a race.

[@iloveplasticbottles]

Hope they keep the same energy when they find out Jesus wasnt white

[@TheCoolJavelin7]

And he was a Jew

[@SeasideDetective2]

"Middle Eastern" isn't a race. It's a mixture of Western Eurasian, African, Southern Eurasian, and even some Eastern Eurasian stocks. But...not fully European, so yes.

[@Emmathelady]

16:25 And there has never been a trans actor or actress nominated, let alone a winner If you want to get technical you could say a trans male actor was nominated, but at the time Elliot Page was not out as trans, to the public.

[@pixie7093]

14:13 "five whole seconds of research" is not a flex like what 💀

[@UhaveN0idea]

“posted a followup to twittah” brought me so much comfort lmao im from nyc, dont live there rn, and so terribly miss the way everyone in the general area speaks aHHHH

[@nekovalley]

It is so brave of a “disney influencer” to think her opinion matters on anything whatsoever

[@roxassora2706]

It also feels ironic.

[@Bootmuncher]

Girl I could tell just by her tone of voice that she runs an adult Disney account.

[@perpetualsick]

Dude, so real. It’s so irritating. I can get over it when they’re just regular people not hurting anyone, but it just makes her that much more frustrating and annoying

[@owl7072]

15:21 Tiana being a woman of color is actually important to the story, like a core part of it, these things are not even remotely comparable 💀

[@mossfrog9720]

This argument actually drives me crazy because every Disney 2d movie where the main character is a poc their race is directly tied into the story

[@blkloislane]

Even if it wasn't, I still wouldn't be comfortable with a white actress playing Tiana. When Black girl rep is actually as easy to come by as white girl rep then maybe we'll talk, but at least for right now, it's not even close. I would wager it isn't close even when you take population percentage into account. I do agree that the live action remakes really need to stop though, I know they won't because they make a lot of money, but they need to.

[@falconeshield]

Why not a native American as Tiana? Just kidding its like casting a white guy as Gengis Khan, what an absurd idea.

[@fun_timeproductions]

She wants to stick to the original story so bad that she forgets the “original” stories aren’t even the original, and she used Snow White to show that which is funny because in the original story, she forced the evil queen to wear hot iron slippers and made her dance to death, and in the original Cinderella, the evil stepmother forces her own daughters to cut off parts of their feet so that they could fit into the shoe, among of countless story’s as well. So it’s funny she tries to complain that it’s not original to the story even though the real original stores were rewritten for the purpose of appealing to all audiences. Also I can say with full confidence, as a big fan of httrd and as a Scandinavian woman and I couldn’t care less about what the actress playing Astrid looks like, I just want her to nail down Astrid’s personality.

[@coffeebux]

Ain't no dragons in Scandinavia either.

[@pusheenqueen519]

Listen, I'm not looking forward to this movie. It just seems to be a pointless cashgrab and I want Dreamworks to focus on making animated movies. But guess what? I'm not using my sincere love for the franchise to justify being racist. 😐

[@kaitlynbrown1295]

This conversation is so exhausting was cast as Rue the Hunger Games (despite the fact that she is described as dark skinned in the book) then we have to have it when Halle Bailey was cast as Ariel then we had to have it when Leah Jeffries was cast as Annabeth in Percy Jackson and now we're having it again and it always comes at the expense of black girls and young women and it's so stupid and upsetting and do these conservatives not get tired of it I hate to break it to them but none of these people are real most of them exist in the realms of dystopian and fantasy spaces anyway

[@roxassora2706]

Elphaba and Cynthia Erivo too

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

Exactlyyy its horrible

[@nikopotatopig]

No 'cause imagine being made about Leah being Annabeth and saying it's because she doesn't look like her, when Walker was casted as Percy and HE ALSO LOOKS NOTHING LIKE PERCY. edit: Good point about it always comes at the expense of black girls. It really sucks that the people getting such vile comments are the actresses who most likely didn't have a huge say over who they play. If anything, it makes more sense to go after the ones who cast them (not saying that people should do that though) because they're the ones doing the decision making and setting up these women to be flamed, intentionally or not (most likely not...)

[@b19wing_inslowmotion]

@@nikopotatopig EXACTLYYYY

[@cloudykodi]

I personally genuinely think that Nico Parker is SUPER pretty as Astrid, and it really shouldn't matter and I'm so sad that this is how the world is

[@amberheist3117]

My only gripe about this whole race issue is that it feels like they're picking and choosing the most divisive roles to swap races. Just about all of them are rolls that used to be white women and are now women of color. It feels disingenuous, because instead of creating new wholesome stories where these women could absolutely kill it, they're now setting these actors up to face massive backlash for being a different color than the original, and it feels like they're actively hunting for fights about race and roles. I'm all for inclusiveness, but I'm sick and tired of race rage bait. Do better Disney, give us something new, inspired, and colorful

[@AliceB0]

yeah it feels like a lot of directors and studios are doing some malicious compliance with inclusion

[@richietozier7091]

11:19 okay, now I’m headcanoning Astrid as a trans woman who never got around to changing her last name

[@LucySilva-v6c]

"it's unrealistic" sir, this is a movie about dragons. Tell me about the reality of dragons.

[@PlatinumAltaria]

"Um ackshually if dragons existed then only white people would be able to tame them" this is literally what they think.

[@Dieclownmusic]

um well theres blue eyes white dragon from yugioh, and the dragon from skyrim, and the dragon that donkey is fuckin in shrek. those are all clearly real people...but as for a black person? nope cant say ive ever heard of that. clearly unrealistic.

[@peachy4128]

4:31 I actually felt this because growing my mom is also bi racial and my dad is white, but people always told me I never looked or acted the part, that being black. They always told me “you don’t act black” or “you don’t look mixed with black” but like, thanks for the racial stereotypes. And they would say “if you’re really mixed then say the n word”

[@lilmochalovefox480]

I'm sorry you deal with that. Sadly its something a lot of us mixed people can relate to.

[@mittag983]

OMG HEAVEN'S OFFICIALS BLESSINGS PRF AHHHHHH

[@peachy4128]

@@lilmochalovefox480 It's really sad SOBBBBB It really grinds my gears

[@peachy4128]

@@mittag983 HEHEHHE YES YES AIOJE JF IT'S BEEN MY LOVE SINCE LAST YEAR

[@cam245-yt9du]

5:38 the millennial zoom while being racist 😭😭😭

[@HotClown]

I'm angry that I knew what you meant by "millennial zoom" before I clicked the timestamp

[@mrsfriendship322]

cant even take her seriously with that aggressive zoom + mirror shot combo😭

[@KillerKoifish]

I think instead of having actors from different races than the original character playing the part, Disney should just make NEW movies with main characters of different races 🤷‍♀️

[@lucas-hw6jm]

httyd is a dreamworks movie, not disney

[@LateCambrian]

Without their irrational, very 80’s-like fear of popular content, outrage grifters would have nothing to talk about.

[@Toxic.Mangaka]

I didn’t even notice the actress for Astrid wasn’t white 😭 I just saw that we were getting another live action and just scrolled past

[@carriehellbound1535]

I would've never know she was mixed if it weren't for this drama lol

[@unknownweirdo6566]

I swear ppl has too much free time

[@Tvaikah]

0:33 Okay, to be fair, The Parent Trap was not nostalgia bait. Nobody knew it was even a remake. It wasn't marketed as one. There are probably millions of people today who don't even know it's a remake of a 1961 flick (that was itself based on a 1949 Germal novel). It was just an easy star vehicle for Lindsay 'cause the movie was essentially pre-written.

[@user399878993]

I don’t know - there’s only 9 years between the three made-for-TV sequels to Parent Trap in 1986, 1989, and 1989 and the remake in 1998. I think more people knew it was a remake than you think. Also, Disney was pumping out remakes of their ‘60s movies - including Nutty Professor, That Darn Cat, and Flubber - throughout the 90s.

[@OpheliaDarling2814]

I hated the remake. The original was perfect. They didn't need to remake it. FFS, they could have made her the granddaughter of one of the twins and an illegitimate cousin could show up challenging the rights to the vineyard. I can think of a million ways to sequel that movie lol.

[@autismworldtravel]

@@OpheliaDarling2814I loved the original, never watched the remake

[@Gloomyraindrop]

Womp womp​@@OpheliaDarling2814

[@LilacLynxtress]

One time I was chatting with my friends about the parent trap and it took ten minutes of arguing about hair color to realize there were two. I was shocked to learn that there was a remake. My friends were shocked to learn it was a remake.

[@sailorspaghetti2376]

The Wicked thing is especially funny to me because 1) Elphaba’s mother is a woman of color in the book and 2) Cynthia Erzio literally has the perfect singing voice for the role.

[@SS-mk2yp]

Listening to mally mouse is actually making me violently angry. That is one awful, pitiful excuse for a human being.

[@mossyairplanes]

someone needs to tell her astrid isn't a real person...

[@NIGHTBLOODUSAGI]

Nah bro don't jumpscare me with that thumbnail 😭 that wig..thing made me hit my head on my bedframe with how hard I flinched

[@mariahnicole9906]

No fr cause I thought she was fully white with box braids lmao

[@NIGHTBLOODUSAGI]

@ville-c4u About you ⚡⚡

[@barbracunningham12]

How dare KZbin hide this 0 seconds from me

[@Burgerking_Sucks]

REAL

[@insomniac_dreamz]

As a Dane, we Scandinavians do not give a single fuck about if a black girl is playing a viking. These people need to brush up on history because 1: viking is not a race, it was a part-time job and 2: OF COURSE THIS MOVIE ISN'T HISTORICALLY ACCURATE THERE ARE DRAGONS IN IT😭Did these people expect historical accuracy in a movie titled 'How to train your dragon'?

[@coffeebux]

Tiana being white: that would be 1 short movie.

[@wormadile]

"Astrids legacy" shes.... I dont know how to say this, girlypop, but shes not real

[@Parisiteriley]

8:16 also, in the book, Glinda and elphaba kiss! They are gay and I am dying on this hill.

[@F3rn_th3_silly413]

They're in lesbian ur honor😋

[@ethandollarhide7943]

Gobber is a Confirmed Gay character in the Original Movies/Netflix series. That's literally what his " This is why I never married, this and one other reason" quote from the 2nd movie is supposed to mean.

[@facthunt2facthunt245]

No. The characters were originally invented in 1900 by L Frank Baum. Wicked is pretty much fanfiction because it isn't truly an original property.

[@Parisiteriley]

@ I’m talking about the wicked book

[@cantduckinbelieveit7426]

I’m right next to you babe.

[@skippydinglechalk1]

conservatives go waahhhh wahhhhhh

[@mezzangelomezzy2926]

None: Conservatives when black actors exist: 😰😨😱😡🤬👿

[@SpleenMuncher71]

Why do people think that dragons and Vikings having horns on their helmets is more realistic than th Vikings getting freaky with other ethnicities???

[@AnCatalyst]

As a childhood Httyd fan i love her as Astrid, she fits the vibe. I only wish they would have given her a blonde wig at least, im more angry about Ruffnuts casting And i also am very excited for the Irl movie, they obviously put their heart in it as always

[@kayenjee]

Bro, trans people are always catching strays. Stay strong out there 🩷🤍💙

[@mnnesotance7004]

Johhny Depp played a native American in 1 movie... I bet she doesn't bring that up

[@Patm-um8tg]

THAT PART 👏

[@reneedailey1696]

If she named every instance of whitewashing in media, this video would be dozens of years long. Not sure what point you're trying to make when she *did* give examples of it being an issue?

[@TheCoolJavelin7]

A white dude played Mr Yunioshi

[@kezia8027]

Not going to lie, apparently I've subconsciously associated your red sponsorship top exclusively with bellesa now and it threw me for a loop when you said squarespace lmaoo

[@YuTopian]

I don't see these people complaining when a mixed person is cast for a black role, but the moment it's for a white role, it's suddenly inauthentic huh It's almost like they don't actually care about white representation, they just don't wanna see a black person on their screen :/ (not that there's anything wrong with casting mixed actors in any scenario, I'm just pointing out the hypocricy)

[@M.L89-u8f]

But notice the hypocrisy for a moment though...because this only affects actors who are mixed with BLACK. They would have no problem if she was a quarter Asian or a quarter Indigenous because they have more proximity to whiteness that they can benefit from than someone like Nico. I guarantee too, if she lied and said she was Italian, they would have not complained either...!

[@tylerthompson5859]

9:02 it's weird that they hate re-creations.. when almost 50 of Disney's stories were re-creations from Grimm's Fairy Tales..