Controversial Games - Game Sack

Episode 144 - There's been lots and lots of games that have been controversial. So let's look at a few that made some headlines.
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[@panch0bill]

"But it's funny to watch senators talk about things they know little or nothing about." So you mean every single day of congress ever?

[@ItsJustMilkISwear]

@Ash Kitt congress is elected by us. The fact that they're almost all really stupid is just an extension of the fact that the majority of people are equally as stupid, hence why they voted for these congressmen.

[@nikolayrybkin3265]

No, they care a lot about video games, metal songs, human rights around the globe, it must be because Murica has no issues with unemployment, poverty and crimes.

[@kenrickeason]

@@nikolayrybkin3265 Exactly!!

[@joshuaroberts4245]

@@ItsJustMilkISwear hence why people vote Republican

[@DakanaGarretson]

Oh I absolutely hate how Night Trap was treated. One of the people who judged it even went on record to say they had never even played it, and they were PROUD of it, yet they were fine to judge it off scenes taken out of context. Brilliant work there guys!

[@DiGiTyDarKMaN]

I love how Night Trap is officially on the Switch now too. :)

[@cordellriemer5177]

How come I never heard of this

[@kenrickeason]

What?! This is news to me.. I'm downloading it to my Switch for historic purposes..

[@NeverbeGoodat]

Yeah. It's the Directors Cut.

[@Peeps7468]

I’m importing a Genesis Mino 2, so I guess I’ll be an owner of this turd game soon. The other games will make the system worth it. 😂

[@ThePoreproductions]

"I want to state that Night Trap will NEVER appear, on a Nintendo system!" Yeah, I think Mr. Lincoln, is a pretty good liar.

[@erikhansen4346]

How can Night Trap promote violence against women if the objective is to save them?

[@TacticalPower88]

Damn Nintendo was a such a snitch back then lol

[@izzie31]

Still are lol

[@BlueflagAlpha]

And still is

[@MetalJesusRocks]

The part where you guys go on and on about grand theft auto five is fucking classic! Some of the funniest stuff you guys have done

[@zhbvenkhoReload]

+MetalJesusRocks My favorite activity is to try to drive cars into places they don't fit!! Lotta fun!

[@MrMekmek29]

+MetalJesusRocks METAL JESUS!!!! *GIGGLES*

[@Dutchfalco]

8:27 EA didn't want to ruin their image.... sweet, sweet irony.

[@kenrickeason]

The Damn Irony!

[@FarNoGaming]

Hold up! Did he just say iPhone in the 90's?

[@JamesLewis2]

more like 👀-phones

[@SevenCompleted]

Yeah eyephones like ear phones he should have used scope or something else cause eyephones is confusing.

[@mrburns366]

I think he meant VR?

[@hellfireXIV]

This man either predicted the future or is from the future.

[@KeyAndrew]

he was referring to the "eye phone" which was a VR headset at the time... Steve jobs stole the name from him....

[@YokozunaNumber1]

I remember the senate hearings when they were ongoing. I was in the sixth grade, and MK was all the rage at the time. The kids at school and I were scared that they were actually going to ban video games. The thing that's always bothered me the most about the government debates on video games is how many of these anti-game politicians have supported real-life war. You know, the kind that leaves people maimed, crippled, homeless, and dead. I'm not political at all, but their hypocrisy over media violence is utterly hysterical. By the way, I played Night Trap and Eric Harris' Doom wads, and not only did they suck big time, I've never become the monster anti-game politicians worried about.

[@mudbrick6083]

"I think there's an obligation to develop good games, with iPhones!!!" (6:44)

[@colinslater659]

*starts to projectile vomit.*

[@starfilmations]

+Mud Brick Gamer Ah yes, develop good games on a phone. This will happen before pantload politicians value and protect civil liberties.

[@projectglaive]

5:06 "What does this teach are kids? That I gun can solve any problem!" Hell no, it taught me I should just use the control pad if I wanted to get far in the game

[@dziltener]

Electronic Arts of all companies said they "don't want to ruin our images" - oh the irony!

[@kristina80ification]

haha, my mom was cool with Doom, back when I was a teenager and the game was big. she was just like "I don't see what's so bad about it, the blood is just big blocks and nothing looks real"

[@davideselvi3906]

That's the way it should be looked at

[@sonicmario64]

Here's a surprise for anyone who is still living in 1993: "Night Trap" has actually been released on the Nintendo Switch! HA HA HA! ;P

[@captkool4336]

Someone should sue!

[@poble]

I wonder how howard lincoln feels about night trap being on the switch lol

[@capsaicinJT]

can confirm, i own it on the switch XD

[@reignkastle9877]

That's awesome!!!😂😂😂

[@JamesLewis2]

@@poble Somehow I thought he had died by then, but he's about to turn 80.

[@Salnax]

Some other controversial games to consider: Wolfenstein 3D - Some of the same stuff as Doom, but this one got in trouble for including Nazis and Adolf Hitler. In Germany, the Jaguar version was confiscated. Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 - The infamous "No Russian" mission got a lot of negative press across the world. Very little was from Russia though. It was largely in the USA, UK, and Australia, where it was used as proof of games being evil. Bonus points for the infamous PC port, which is what gamers REALLY cared about. Pokemon Red/Blue - People often forget this, but Pokemon attracted plenty of controversy back in the day. People associated it with occult themes, anti-semitism, racism against Africans, dog-fighting, encouraging children to gamble, Zionism, and the free masons. All at once. NARC - I'm not talking about the 80's arcade game where you killed the evil druggies. I mean the 2005 re-imagining on the PS2. It let players use confiscated drugs to alter the character's abilities, and it got banned in Australia. Command & Conquer: Generals - This 2003 RTS game may look like an average "Near Future" Starcraft wannabe, where America and China team up to fight some huge terrorist army. But it got banned in both China and Germany. China's government got upset at how certain landmarks got destroyed in the game, while Germany's government banned it for being pro-war propaganda that encouraged killing civilians. Hatred - The 2015 shooter that got the first "Adults-Only" rating ever from the ESRB solely for its violent content. Was described by many media sources, including gaming-focused ones, as a murder simulation. Rule of Rose - A PS2 psychological horror game about scary kids. Got banned in the United Kingdom, Australia, and New Zealand, and was condemned by a number of politicians across Europe. Some of the game's opponents argued using lies, including "you have to bury small children alive to win." Because of all of this, the game sold horribly, and the developer went out of business. Tomb Raider - Both the original and 2013 re-imagining have been criticized for sexual content. Maybe you could compare and contrast the criticisms for the two games? Just a thought. Zelda: Skyward Sword - Just start talking to Zelda fans about this game. The controversy knows no bounds!

[@Atlink]

"Night Trap will never appear on a Nintendo system." Limited Run Games called... It wants to set the record straight.

[@StormsparkPegasus]

Don't need Limited Run Games...it's on the Switch EShop.

[@superbros64deluxe]

@@StormsparkPegasus you do because they published the digital version too (unfortunately)

[@Electrohead92]

Manhunt was one that I remember hearing a lot of controversy over.

[@SwoleCalibur]

Playing "that game that will never appear on a Nintendo console" on my Switch right now!

[@Destiny4Travail]

Imagine if Brutal Doom was the first version of Doom to come out back in 93'.

[@Peeps7468]

Bahahaha 😂

[@ryanmeade6742]

They'd shit their little granny panties.

[@Natalie-qm3ys]

The original developers of Doom actually said that it would’ve probably banned video games in Western countries if it had been more like Brutal Doom.

[@astalavista7251]

So...I bought Night Trap on the Nintendo Switch not all that long ago. Now that is irony.

[@TheACanning]

Great video....oh those paid old men, trying to sound serious, but only showing they actually never played Night Trap. Got to love the government.

[@frankschneider6156]

+Adam Canning Only people who extensively played Night Trap would think of banning it .... because it plays like shit. There are neither gore scenes no sex scenes and not even any violence to keep you entertained. Oh yeah, and no game play that's worth being called like that too ... this "game" is really an abomination

[@AByssInc]

+Adam Canning Democrats did the same thing with rap music.

[@geniuswells]

Different times. Oh so different times

[@frankschneider6156]

Brantley Wells Don't believe that. Things like that can and will happen again. There are always people who don't like something and will therefore try to "protect" you from experiencing it. The wish to forcefully make others adhere to their personal taste seems to be quite strong in certain seemingly disturbed or antisocial individuals. That's the reason, why the 1st amendment is so important.

[@FallicIdol]

+Adam Canning Hillary is still doing this today.

[@n64glennplant]

I remember when conkers bad for day was so controversial that the official Nintendo magazine here in the UK boycotted covering much of it by way of previews etc. how times have changed though

[@Rountree1985]

N64 Glenn Plant you’re the man

[@TheJacklikesvideos]

Nintendo actually deliberately only advertised the game in adult spaces like Playboy.

[@midievalcat7770]

*Watches Night Trap bathroom scene* “Oh boy, I feel like murder!”

[@joeyboyjoeyboy2]

"how would you like it i your daughter went out with someone who played 3 hours of night trap?" HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF YOUR DAUGHTER WENT ON A DATE TO WATCH A SLASHER FLICK?

[@awetistic5295]

Plot twist: It was actually the daughter playing night trap.

[@lucyakaluckstat]

bruh i watched alien and friday the 13th with my gf lmao

[@VickHushpuppy215]

@@lucyakaluckstat I watched every SAW movie ever with a female I don’t think I’ve ever watched a horror movie without a woman lol

[@derp9193]

Imagine actually playing Night Trap for more than 10 minutes lol.

[@Peeps7468]

@@derp9193 why aren’t you getting more likes? Perfect comment

[@Dorelaxen]

I'm 123 years old and THIS OFFENDS ME!

[@AlphaOmegaSin]

5:04 All I could think of is Barry Burton holding up his big ass gun and saying "I have this " lol

[@Dre2Dee2]

Im super sorry, but this was literally the first Game Sack I couldnt watch start to finish. The inane babbling of those congressmen were so offensive I literally had to shut it off and walk away, trembling. I contacted my local game developer to release a more violent game, to sooth my anger.

[@johnblanco9674]

Well, this was 20 years ago...uh, yeah.

[@gez9145]

Dre2 Dee2 I agree, absolutely sickening and highly offensive.

[@Bitzell]

I had to bleach my eyes I was so offended!

[@samuelthehobo4441]

You think Congress was incompetent then, well well well, do some research and then clean your shoes from the shit that comes out of some peoples mouths

[@erikkenrick5791]

These guys walk around like they trusted the wrong fart or something... best comment in Game Sack history lol

[@99konondrums]

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know how much I look forward to watching each new episode. I can't believe these keep getting better and better, and now they're twice as often. Keep up the great work!

[@Stelios78910]

6:42 He just said Eye Phones right okay. :P

[@Cracklotus]

Yeah I had to rewind that as well, on some " oh no he didn't" type ish.

[@Fred_PJ]

That man was a visionary. :P

[@MrBrianGonzalez]

+Fred Almeida steve jobs wassup?

[@jlewwis1995]

+Fred Almeida Yeah he had his Eye Phone in landscape mode playing Angry Birds and was thinking about how violent it is against pigs :P

[@VengefulNonsense]

+Stelios78910 I wonder what the heck he was talking about

[@tomstrickland5591]

Wow guys, this was one of your best episodes yet. Absolutely loved all the intercut footage from the hearings. Really brought back memories too. Great work dudes.

[@TheModelGamer]

Gotta love the fact, after watching this video, that Night Trap is available for the Switch. So much for it "never appearing on a Nintendo console" Mr. Lincoln.

[@teen_laqueefa]

For the record lol

[@scottguesty]

Some ideas that could work well for a part 2 of controversial games: Manhunt Bully Dangerous Dave In Copyright Infringement Carmageddon Postal/Postal 2 JFK Reloaded Hotline Miami

[@AlucardaPapere]

+Scott Guest don't forget Grezzo 2

[@Phoenix2312]

+Scott Guest All the above, and GAL'S PANIC and its Sequels... Rapeplay and here is one that may surprise people... DUNGEON KEEPER!!! Yes, believe it or not this game DID cause a ruckus as well!!! While it managed to avoid the US Senate this time around... The UK DID jump on the concerns being raised by US parents that the game "Promoted Non-Christian Values as you play, to all intents and purposes, the forces of evil - or Satan" Someone in the UK actually tried to get the game banned because you played an evil hand that slapped demonic Imps!!!! Because you played the BAD GUY!!!!

[@Phoenix2312]

Deaths actually related to DUNGEON KEEPER - In Game: 50 Billion Imps during the games Lifetime... In Real Life: 0 Yup! That game REALLY corrupted us!!!

[@slucchi723]

+Scott Guest for Copyright Infringement there is also the original Giana Sisters

[@dekky3908]

+Scott Guest Oh holy crap I totally forgot about Carmageddon and how insanely violent that game (for the time) was when I was a little kid watching my brother play it.

[@dege13]

Thank you for the great editing at 18:30. Awesome.

[@christophermiller3031]

one of my favorite episodes so far guys! great job editing and sharing footage from the senate.

[@Akabane011]

"Maybe he is a Johnny Cage fan" Hahaha that one was priceless XD.

[@RRW359]

16:00 I'm not trying to say anything about Howard Lincoln or Nintendo in general, but in that instance at least, Nintendo steeped to a new level of low. First of all, he calls it a "sega night trap game", when it was third party. If that wasn't bad enough, what he says next is just crindgeworthy: "Small children bought this at toys R us. You know that as well as I do". First, the console (genesis) was marketed to adolesants. Second, the boxart clearly didn't look like it would have been for children. Third, Night Trap was on the Sega CD, a very unpopular add-on, and untill these hearings, from what I know, nobody heard of it. What he said sounded like a lot of kids bought it, which was almost certainly false. I should also point out that one of the main reasons people think games are for children is because Nintendo marketed the NES as a toy for kids when it first came out, in order to not get cought up in the dislike of games after the crash. I know the Sega guy was being really self-premoting, but he didn't distort the truth to make Nintendo look bad.

[@NecroVMX]

Two words: Custer's Revenge.

[@NexusVerbal]

This has to be one of the best episodes of the show yet. Part Game Sack episode, part documentary, I was hooked from the start.

[@TaylorShearin]

Joe! Dave! Another great video. Thank you for putting the time in to make these so excellent!

[@slippinjimmy5683]

Howard Lincoln is like that kid who blames his little brother when he's done something stupid and his parents find out.

[@Metal-Possum]

"...That a gun can solve any problem" Nice job, guy who said that, the US government really isn't making a good example there. Also, any publicity is good publicity. Sega were notorious for allowing the things their competitors hated. The Game Genie comes to mind here.

[@Michirin9801]

Nothing like an episode of Game Sack to start off my day~ You know, I never really got into the Grand Theft Auto series... While I totally get the appeal of causing as much mayhem as possible in these games, I just don't feel good about myself if I punch/shoot/slash innocent people, even if they're NPCs... "But what about the other games where you punch/shoot/slash everything that moves?" Well, in those other games I'm okay because I'm aware they're the enemies and they'll do me harm if they come in contact with me, so I just beat'em up before they can do the same to me... If you like the games, great! Have a blast! Just understand that It's not my cup of tea...

[@markasscop]

at least the Haitians in vice city have it coming they always come after you the moment they see you

[@ptidus1]

+Ruko Michiharu Well actually, I feel the same about gratuitous violence, and I'm a die hard fan of the GTA series. But I don't play the games like in this video, I mainly play the missions. And in the missions, when there's gunfights, they're always against gang members or cops that try to kill you at first sight. So in fact, I enjoy these games more by only killing the people that try to kill me first. Think of it as a "challenge run". :)

[@Michirin9801]

Yeah, as I said, I can totally see the appeal of this game, I mean you have an entire city as your sandbox to do whatever you want in it! You could put hours, days, weeks maybe into this game and not see everything it has to offer... But well, it's just not for me >w> Yeah I gave one of the games a shot a couple of years ago but I just couldn't get into it... But if you guys enjoy it, I can totally see why...

[@BloodyEyeGamer]

Damn, you guys keep putting out stellar videos. Love the channel guys!!!

[@sorrytoobother]

Did that guy say "IPhones" @ 6:42??

[@Zeldaschampion]

+sorrytoobother Was wondering about that myself. Night Trap came out in 1992 where as I-phones didn't come out until 2007.

[@sorrytoobother]

+Zeldas Champion Right!! That was some freaky shit there!! I replayed it 3 times and he definitely said Iphones!!

[@Zeldaschampion]

sorrytoobother Just reminded me of that guy that appeared to look like he was talking on a cell phone in a Charlie Chaplin movie.

[@josephskater1994]

He meant like. Vision goggles lmao. Like a VR headset. Still pretty cool he said that though.

[@sorrytoobother]

+Us fakestan Lol@ "Eye Fongs"

[@effrme]

I need closure on that poor man you were chasing.

[@nightbreed9987]

Favorite episode of Game Sack ever! Funny and full of information! Keep it up guys!

[@Ratlegion]

I can tell you guys really worked your asses off this time. Awesome video!

[@Tommylop1982]

Comics went through the same thing in the 50s

[@Wyrdwad]

The game I'd most like to see you guys cover in a future "controversial games" episode is Limbo of the Lost -- a point-and-click adventure game that ripped off about a million other games, as well as movies like Spawn. It is, to my knowledge, the game that included the largest amount of plagiarized content of any published game in history.

[@Phoenix2312]

+Wyrdwad That would be a good one... It did raise a lot of controversy back in its day too - But not because of the things it ripped off... After all the game was a Parody of the genre. It was deliberate in its ripping off as it was taking a tried and tested formula and turning it into a comedy game.

[@GreenNinjaTea]

+Warren “Phoenix” Marris no the pre-rendered backgrounds are screenshots from other games like doom and Oblivion. that is raw plagurism

[@Wyrdwad]

Yeah, the game was a parody, but the level of plagiarism present in it went far beyond fair use. The developers were sued by so many people, and the plagiarism is absolutely what killed it in the end.

[@AlluMan96]

+Wyrdwad And "ripped off" is quite literal, as it's enviornmental graphics were literally assets ripped from the bones of other, better games. Elder scrolls IV, World of Warcraft, Sea dogs, Thief: Deadly shadows, nobody was safe from this thing's rabid devouring of copyrighted imagery. Spawn wasn't the only movie plagarized either, as apperantly there is also imagery taken from the likes of Pirates of the Carribean and Beetlejuice. It's actually so shamelessly disgusting that I'm a little impressive how they got away with seling this thing as late as 2008. I think I even saw it on store shelves once. Sorta regret not buying it, because that thing's a shitshow definetly worth experiencing blind.

[@seanmcaleer1825]

Man, everytime you guys upload a video I shout "Fuckin sweet, new Game Sack video!" It feels like theres a new one every Sunday? In that case, it's one of the big highlights of my week (and THEE highlight of the every second week i don't get paid) and I thank you for the commitement to the entertaining and informative channel

[@sirsachmo]

Great job on this one guys. Very well put together.

[@MoteofLobross]

I love how Howard Lincoln was all like "This shit will never be on a Nintendo system and Sega is evil for doing this!" then like a year or two later Nintendo does a commercial showing off how MK2 is uncensored and even has a Butthole Survers song playing to it.

[@teen_laqueefa]

It's on Switch lol

[@maxbyer]

Night Trap is now available on Nintendo Switch

[@sjake8308]

Regarding the controversy games like Mortal Kombat generated in the '90s due to their violence, it reminds me what happened to various movies back in the '70s: Although both The Exorcist and A Clockwork Orange were released before I was born, people lost their minds after they were released and both were effectively banned in my country (the UK) until around 20 years ago.

[@Menleah]

Another great retrospective - keep em' comin' guys.

[@AgentDanielCross]

Postal 1 was also under fire

[@vvcq]

+daniel cross Well, Postal 1 was a pretty dark game all things considered, far less humorous than the sequels. I do remember people saying that the developers were probably baiting controversy on purpose, to sell the game.

[@Schwazoom]

+daniel cross And like Postal 1, Hatred.

[@tuffasgong]

+daniel cross I just got that game off of steam for $.50 a few weeks back, man talk about one messed up game. Fun as can be, but I could only play for so long.

[@Jenovi]

I loved your GTA V segment, it had me cracking up. Nice episode in all, and thanks for work. It's much appreciated from this fan.

[@robertdelvalle8916]

Exellent topic guys, love this channel.

[@thumbwarriordx]

After playing Mortal Kombat at the age of 7, my friend and I practiced doing jump-kicks in the garage. Afterward we flipped over one of those clear plastic floor mats with the carpet gripping spikes and practiced getting knocked into the "spike" pit. I normally wouldn't say so myself, but in retrospect, how freaking adorable is that?

[@PeteSkerritt]

Those GTAV sequences are gold. I haven't laughed that hard in awhile. Terrorizing a random citizen is priceless-- and underscores the appeal of the sandbox genre. I guess that I need to approach the GTA games less as narrative experiences & more as sandbox experiences to better appreciate them. I really enjoyed this episode from stem to stern. Great job.

[@controlpadblues]

I LOL'd pretty good at the Mortal Kombat music. Thank you for that!

[@tuffasgong]

Man, not sure why I like your guys's stuff so much but it's killer. Informative first, and funny tossed in there, and you both have a great repoire between you. Keep up the good work, loved this episode.

[@Thumperbunney]

I always enjoy your videos guys. keep up the good work! 🐰

This episode is clearly an improvement for the show! It features both a PC game and Jen. Both should definetely appear more. :) I did enjoy the subject though.

[@GoodbyeOpus]

I agree.

[@IllusionSector]

So nice to see Dave, the Nintendo guy, calling Lincoln out on his opportunistic douchery.

[@briteboy6131]

Damn, the humor in the episode was on point! That lost boys reference, the Mortal Kombat song (especially that shot of the glasses guy), and that gta 5 segment. I've also always been mildly curious to see what Thrill Kill was like, so that was cool too. All in all a pretty kerl episode!

[@dominicpayne4393]

I have nearly watched every Gamesack episode and it's the best video game show I have seen.

[@sammylane21]

Oh if only that Senate hearing even knew about the up coming GOD OF WAR franchise,huh??

[@rpgfreak92787]

the mortal kombat theme song part was awesome, I would love to see their faces watching this

[@cassouwassou7364]

One of my fave episode yet. Keep up the great work guys. Joe that was one of your finest moments. The GTA5 bit had me laughing so hard :-)

[@richardglerve5540]

This was a fantastic and very interesting episode. The segment on GTA V was hilarious. Keep up the good work Game Sack!

[@AmberShort]

Well I wasn't even a teen yet when the Night Trap game came out. When it did, I ended up playing it and literally laughing hysterical at all the death scenes. I'm not emotionally deranged, yet. >.> Violent games never made me a killer. In fact, games helped me to gain my career. Good topic guys. =)

[@mjxbox]

+Amber Short lol good one.

[@Abenator25]

+Amber Short Well hello there

[@writtenworlds]

+Amber Short For some context, what exactly IS your career? P.S. saw some videos on your channel, seems like you like dem azn MMOs. You gonna play Tree of Savior when it comes out? If by chance you don't know what that is; kzbin.info/www/bejne/jomlpoODm6xor5Y

[@emailchrismoll]

+Amber Short The scenes in Night Trap were about as violent as the 60's Batman show.

[@mjxbox]

***** really ? thats cool to hear.

[@michaelhall736]

Bully was controversial when it came out. Jack Thompson and other people said it was a Colombine simulator. Can you believe that shit? They say it encourages people to bully kids. That's not what the game is about. Your objective is to stop the fighting at Bullworth and bullying the bullies.

[@thkarape]

People like Thompson have never played games in their lives. I bet that he just saw the title and decided to target the game.

[@BrendanStuart]

+michael hall (Rwanime442) Just reading the name 'Jack Thompson' makes me feel like someone is injecting my brain with hydrochloric acid with a footlong needle

[@TheDecatonkeil]

+michael hall (Rwanime442) Well, the game was tonally confused itself and in terms of "objective" a bit of a mess: The story kinda is about that but along the way you have a lot of missions in which you partake in tame, cartoony bullying. But you also do things like physically attacking teachers and other figures of authority, even if that won't result in other thing than they being paralyzed by a pain in their foot to resume a fiercer pursuit that will end in unavoidable detention if you get caught by them (you can't "defeat" them). You also become at some point an accomplice in a bit of tame... I don't know what word to use about that... the P.E. teacher has you steal the laundry of the girls. I think what really makes it a not all that offensive is that even if NPCs are somewhat defined characters, there isn't a gameplay mechanic that would allow for repeated, extended or more serious bullying to register: you can't really make of bullying in the videogame as a statement about someone's race, sexual orientation, gender, or other or take it to a very serious point (you can't bully someone to push him or her to commit suicide, for example). The game itself is pretty good and fun (very easy, though) and you can make whatever you want of it. It's more a Bart Simpson simulator than a bullying simulator or... well, that thing you say Thompson said. I think the biggest controversy about the game came from inside gamers, as some saw it as a game that attacked bully victims, a group in which many gamer geeks counted themselves. Bully itself didn't paint the nerds as "saints", but as indulging in other types of bullying themselves. There was even an important nerd character which surrounded himself in somewhat nazi party inspired banners in his campaign for school president. I don't think there's really anyone who is completely against "the dictatorship of political correctness", but that a lot of people would change it for their own, advocating for Hatred when they, as gamers, wanted the heads of the Housers and Rockstar at large for Bully or for GTA which they may have seen as pandering to non-traditionally geeky gamers.

[@Noobsaibot21]

+michael hall (Rwanime442) Jesus, GameSack could get a whole episode out of some of the nonsense he came out with. Other games that could be considered for a second episode include Manhunt ("murder simulator"), RapeLay ("rape simulator"), Hatred ("murder simulator"), Modern Warfare 2 (No Russian mission) and Resident Evil 5 (claims of racism).

[@vOddy75]

+michael hall (Rwanime442) I feel the same way about Doom. When I was 6 years old, I enjoyed playing Doom, and I found it funny that people complained about it, since nothing immoral is done by the player in Doom. Against evil demons from hell, you fight not only in self defense but in protection of humanity. Now I understand that they see what they want to see.

[@davidford3968]

I wish i would have found this channel alot sooner. You two gentleman do awesome work

[@galvanizedcorpse]

you guys seriously kick ass ... the best gaming channel BY FUCKING FAR... totally underrated channel... you should have millions of viewers... thanks for all the laughs and the great reviews guys, love your work, regards from Russia!

[@ForkFace2112]

The Mortal Kombat music put to the footage of the hearing was hilarious!!!

[@XB3Gaming]

Yeesh, Lieberman was pretty much a proto-Anita Sarkeesian.

[@Longlius]

Moral crusaders have always been a problem, especially since moral crusading is a cheap way to score political clout during certain periods.

[@richt961]

"This is definitely gonna to be a day that he remebers" Love it. Great job guys!

[@Booruvcheek]

What did that bearded guy say at 6:38??! "there's an obligation to develop good games with..iPhones"?? No wonder the guy listening to him was stunned!

[@bulbinking]

Manhunt was one of the biggest controversial games.

[@kiwisoup]

Wow...those people in senate had no fucking clue what they were talking about. It wasn't a sorority house, it was house on a winery...you don't trap and kill women, you PROTECT women and trap vampires...and there's no overtones of sexual assault anywhere to speak of. I'd be interested to see what these people think of games today compared to something just about anybody would call tame today. Also Nintendo's comments were clearly just trying to promote themselves as very shortly after they caved in and "controversial" games like Mortal Kombat and Doom appeared on the SNES.

[@Sinn0100]

Oh Dave...."Sega became the console of choice briefly." No, the Genesis was the console of choice from 1989 through the beginning of 1995. It led the 16-bit market in sales from its entry into our stores until it was unceremoniously canceled by Sega of Japan. ;) No matter what, we love you guys. Both of you are on the right side of things and we thank you for standing with us, the gamers.

[@flioink]

Awesome episode guys :)

[@tahustvedt]

They seem to think the goal of night trap is to assault women, while the goal of the game is actually to prevent assault of women.

[@iamimiPod]

I played Thrill Kill back in the day. It didn't take my fancy. I wasn't offended by the violence or anything, I just felt that beyond the violence, there was little else going for the game.

[@DonBoczini]

Love the episode guys ! ;D

[@CosmicEffect]

The Sega vice-president should be using a "Genesis does" shirt like Joe's using on that hearing, that would've been awesome. Speaking of awesome, best controversial games coverage of all time right here on this episode, thanks Joe and Dave!

[@maximumrisk2004]

6:40 Did I hear that right? Iphones?

[@indask8]

I've heard the same thing.

[@weezerbluealbum5984]

With the way he moved his hands, I think he meant virtual reality.

[@MorrisChannel4]

thats already happening though, remember this is 93 and now we got the vive and ocolus, they were trying to to push the idea of virtual reality in he 90's and it made leaps till now, virtual reality was not very good back then.

[@NoctumusTV]

*Eye* phones ... waaaaaaaay before the iPhone came out ;) 15 years to be exact (_Night Trap_: 1992, _iPhone_: 2007).

[@uNkLeRaRa4]

I was just thinking the same thing

[@B3Band]

Moral of this video: Never, ever, vote for Joe Lieberman.

[@kbbbb7]

+Bloodbath and Beyond He was VP elect. People did.

[@B3Band]

kbbbb7 Really? I had no idea that people did, in fact, vote for someone who was serving in Congress! Thanks for your amazing help, dude!

[@B3Band]

kbbbb7 Also, you have no idea what "VP elect" means.

[@Major_Kenny]

Manhunt, The Punisher (ps2) Also I remember a long time ago some well known lawyer tried to sue Midway's Mortal Kombat Armageddon saying that they had included a character like him in the game, which was not true, it was created by a player on Kreate a Fighter. No Duke Nukem? The lawsuits between 3DRealms and Gearbox went for a long time.

[@badbirdkc]

Fun fact: The tech behind Thrill Kill eventually ended up in the game Def Jam Vendetta

[@NeoNinjaX87]

I love your theme song!

[@mbe102]

The Anita Sarkeesian of the 90's, Liberman.

[@lordjolly2267]

18:31 lol great editing. Im sure that took a while to edit! I'd say it was worth the laugh!

[@ragonel]

editing on the mortal kombat is a flawless victory lol

[@400KrispyKremes]

No "JFK Reloaded"..?

[@GameSack]

+400KrispyKremes There's no way you could have watched the entire video when it's only been up for 10 minutes. Did you just log on only to complain that a certain game isn't in here?

[@400KrispyKremes]

Game Sack No I knew you guys had better taste than that. I wasn't complaining. I did look at the small screen on the fast forward bar though, after I posted that. Furthermore, this video is great. Sorry I should have put an Lol at the end of my original comment. My bad guys.

[@400KrispyKremes]

James007HungerZone It's cool man. I really should have put an "lol" at the end. It was just a misunderstanding.

[@metalmugen]

Thats good chowdah

[@GameSack]

+400KrispyKremes No prob, man. :)

[@Midztoyz]

Yay, Jen! More Jen on skits please.

[@GoodbyeOpus]

I agree.

[@teen_laqueefa]

Yes indeed

[@oogrooq]

Maybe your best episode yet.

[@corebass420]

+oogrooq It's definitely up there with their very best. The editing was sweet, great topic, showed the ignorance of people in government, kind of brushed on bad cops, some good laughs....

[@GameOnRadio1]

A little note about Thrill Kill. They did make a "censored" version of sorts of it, but in the form of a re-release/re-skinned version based on the Hip-Hop Group Wu-Tang Clan. The game was called Wu-Tang Shaolin Style released a year later and when put in a CD player it had at least (if I remember correctly) 5-8 unreleased Wu-Tang tracks.