CONTROVERSIAL New 4 Cylinder C63! Have AMG Got it Right?

[@svgaming2716]

It would have been so much better if it had around 500 hp from a 3.0L 6 cylinder twin turbo, makes so much sense, direct competition to the M3 while still being good in the sound department and also being a lot lighter without the batteries and motors, they could have made it so much better but instead we get a 4 cylinder engine

[@constantindinkl2311]

Thats amg my friend always do it worse then everyone wants it

[@svgaming2716]

@@constantindinkl2311 i wouldn't say everytime as they killed it with the W204, and many others, but from this new "C63", i am guessing a downfall of amg is in the works as further downsizing is gonna keep the enthusiasts even far away from it

[@constantindinkl2311]

@@svgaming2716 i meant the cars after 2016

[@seddam]

Yeah exactly, they should have used the engine that they use on the new S500 and E450 inline 6 turbo 3.0. Tuned it up a little and put it to the Cclass. Would be much more reliable and cheaper than this highly complex hybrid system. we got it Mercedes-Benz you're good at getting great performance from a hybrid car, you showed it on AMG One/ formula 1s. You don't need to apply this on a civilian C-class. These cars won't last more than 5 years I bet.

[@svgaming2716]

​@@constantindinkl2311 still i absolutely love the w205 as well since it's still a V8 rwd and sound pretty good, but as i said, i bet this C63 will cause the downfall of AMG

[@tomthecardude]

Will always have to be the 6.2 for me!

[@thomashayhurst6547]

The 6.2 is iconic and I do have a soft spot for the unhinged axe murderer C63 but I quite like the 4.0 version. It could be a lunatic but it could also do the grown up parts of being a car

[@greyguy.960]

7.3 v12 for me ;) but I agree on the 63 is the 6.2 v8 engine. It's lost it's soul and heart

[@thomashayhurst6547]

@@greyguy.960 The 7.3 and 7.0 are way too rare but they are glorious when you do see them on the road

[@alexluke84]

For me the supercharged M113K is the best ever but I love M156 6.2 also just slightly behind V12 biturbo legend engine that in torque number is still the king how it gets there amd for such an "old" engine

[@anzof5361]

6.3

[@eco1809]

Guess who's not buying a $100k+ C63S with a CIVIC ENGINE!🙋🏻‍♂️ LONG LIVE THE V8!

[@billyz4025]

Man paid almost 200k for a tesla model s plaid

[@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind]

I'll buy it if there's no ridiculous markup

[@2uhayr]

Problem is people too much money and not enough brain cells are still buying these so Mercedes will keep making them. Hate how the car industry is going :(

[@RUS38]

@@NoGoodHandlesComingToMind I wouldn’t have it even if it was free.

[@kelvinwilson4419]

Wait......a civic engine.......that's sounds amazing honestly 😂😂😂

[@jo05dk]

I expected you to be in full influencer mode on this, since someone has to try and sell this ..whatever.. to the clientel that used to buy the AMG C-class. You gained (more) respect for being honest while doing your job. The question. Have AMG got it right? No they absolutely haven't, imho. I couldn't care less about a four cylinder, hybrid, monstrously heavy, Playstation sound filled, thing. ..with weird brakes, since i didn't see an update in the description about that. As AMG themselves said: They didn't need to go to this extreme. They chose to do so. It fills me with sadness that this is where the AMG C-class ends for me. Not with a bang, but a whimper.

[@speedyjay3893]

Respect Tim ! Respect you are not trying to convince us how good this is. Let's be honest: I understand you need to be careful with the verdict but we all know this IS NOT RIGHT move from AMG!

[@hl236]

When Tim does linguistic yoga, you know that his verdict is “the car is sh*t”

[@Muhluri]

No Michael this is not right!

[@jakubbanaszkiewicz3656]

@@hl236 that made me so laugh omg hahaha, but you are right

[@michaeljordan7733]

What else is AMG too do when the entire world is going electric and phasing out big V8's engines. People like you are the reason

[@motorconcierge]

I am a die hard Merc and AMG fan, still remember my first drive of W221 pre face lift V12 S600 and W204 C63. This will never ever replace the deep rumbling that AMG engines had, it was instantly distinguishable… this, this is a crime. Very very sad.

[@enoch.mirzoyan]

everything about it is a 10/10 with interior to exterior but they decide to put a 4 cylinder 🥲 ima go cry in my W204 C63 now

[@deputydrip4520]

Don’t cry, your car will most likely increase in value in the long run :)

[@vegardhagen9259]

I just cant stand how old the screens in the interior looks. It looks like they are from 2010, but otherwise pretty nice

[@enoch.mirzoyan]

@@vegardhagen9259 haha ya, that’s why i liked the W205 so much cause the interior was amazing. it’s just the M156 is literally toooo nice

[@enoch.mirzoyan]

@@deputydrip4520 LOL it’s up about $5k since i’ve gotten it

[@vegardhagen9259]

@@enoch.mirzoyan Im very jealous of that engine

[@Moray2023]

Honestly a 4 cylinder just seems like an unhappy compromise. Just make it full electric.

[@odinikita4821]

Ev is not the world saver corrupt governments would have you believe. Do research.

[@Moray2023]

@@odinikita4821 I meant from a performance car stand point not a Environmental. No point half arsing it as a 4 cylinder hybrid with mostly batteries. Just give it all batteries if you are gonna do that.

[@murilorosella4367]

Numbers don’t matter when they take away all the emotion

[@DRIVEWITHDRAY]

It’s easy to make a fast car now. That isn’t what impresses us anymore. We want cars with soul. And as an owner of 10+ AMGs and 2 black series, I’ve got to say I’m very disappointed. Obviously this new c63 is an excellent car. There is no denying that. But I have moved over to the dark side with my new M3 and have been loving it. Solid review, Tim!

[@duosable]

Why do you have to move around. I stick to my pre facelift 2017 c63sc forever.😊

[@Seemashe]

CLA 45 AMG much better than the M3 interior wise , performance, reliability and design and over all … wait till BMWs start breaking down .. unreliable cars .. coming from a mechanical/electrical engineer 30 yrs experience in cars, trucks and military mechanic

[@bradenmchenry995]

Mercedes needs to make drastic changes. They are making non competitive ev’s and high performance cars

[@KDpyro]

they are shifting to executive and luxury class cars. A Class will be discontinued after the facelift!

[@HiddenWen]

@@KDpyro Hey, if they return to their old form, with quality and engineering being their main key qualities, I might get one! The old Benz was always about making executive and luxury cars.

[@KDpyro]

@@HiddenWen I sure hope so too. Interior build quality is getting worse in their compact and mid size cars..

[@DanielSadjadian]

Maybe they should have called it 'C45S E-Performance'? Because it sounds so dull for a '63' model.

[@6pistons]

Change is inevitable. The beloved. The iconic C63S AMG with the burly V8 biturbo is the performance standard we know and love. This new C63 with a 4 banger really ought to be named something else.

[@Smokereca]

no it is not inevitable. thats what you are told.

[@fruityloopsfan]

It's a C45 really, don't know why they keep calling it a 63 when it isn't.

[@allanrickard2117]

it is a piece of crap with lots of buttons should of called it plastic 4 cylinder piece of sh#t with shit brakes that will fall apart in 6 years in the juck yard

[@iamslf]

@@Smokereca change is infact inevitable, it’s the law of the universe, i.e. entropy. even though there are a few hold outs, evolution in some form will change that.

[@Smokereca]

@@iamslf not this change my friend.

[@DallasSDogger]

I owned the 4-litre V8 model. It was epic. Ultimately, I sold it as the footwell was too narrow, giving feet pain. This is a transitional effort as they move to EV. They have an uphill battle to draw buyers on this new road. Despite the performance, buyers want something special. This one not on my radar. My 2023 M550ix is doing that! You nailed it. "It doesn't have the vibe".

[@ebbfccbdf]

It is all very fast, very high-tech and colourful. But I’m not gonna let go of my good old bi-turbo v8 anytime soon

[@peakrangerover]

Would have been even better if it had the V6 biturbo from my C43 AMG!

[@lilmoesieable]

no

[@MrSebinatorTV]

So it ways 300+ kg more than the outgoing model and about the power to weight ratio of the outgoing e63…. With all that extra weight i guess the fuel economy has not even improved despite the 4 cylinder engine (the electric range is only 5km)

[@37racso]

Yeah, but they can do the "gotcha" on the emissions - since this car can technically go 13 km on the electric only that's 13% less emissions per 100 km. Add to that the lower emissions from the engine and this car is a dream in that sense. I bet the fuel economy is slightly better, but not in a meaningful way. I mean - if you buy this car you don't want to bother with making it economical anyway, but I get your point - at the very least it could have been more efficient on that front.

[@flayerrr7730]

@@37racso exactly thank you

[@v4skunk739]

MPG is way better.

[@DahleJohannes]

The weird thing for me is that they didn't have to make it like this. They actually could've retained the V8 or even used one of their brilliant 6-cylinders. In some other video on this car, one of the guys from Mercedes says that they could've stuck with the old formula, but chose to go down this route because smaller engines and electrification is the future. It seems to me like they came up with this concept in a bubble where they all agreed on something that just isn't true. People don't want complicated electrified power-at-all-cost cars. Not in a C63. Just because some people find the acceleration figures and power outputs of electric cars impressive or exciting, they decided that C63 costumers want that. Mercedes missed the mark completely with this, in my opinion.

[@tubejorrit]

I wish it got the brilliant 6 in line engine they made for the E53 AMG.

[@TheRealBobMarley]

Thanks for writing this. I wish more people saw that interview, I often hear echo'd around that Mercedes was "forced to" and that is completely untrue.

[@gaara4667]

When will you people learn. You are the minority no matter how much people you see share your sentiments. This car will sell because the majority of the buyers only care about it being faster than the previous generation and it has more technology in it. Enthusiasts always complain about changes but they are always the small percentage of buyers anyways. 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@DahleJohannes]

Well, Mercedes just announced that they're bringing the V8 back for the C63 in 2026. Guess the buyers and majority didn't like it either. @@gaara4667

[@jonor3370]

What a shame, seems AMG and electrification are compromised. Great review Shmee!

[@swordmonkey6635]

It's not the electrification, but the ICE size that was the bad call by AMG. Throw a twin turbo V6 with the same electric motor and you'd have a completely different level performance car. Replacing a high performance V8 with a IL4 was a little too much of a stretch this soon. Make the next generation a IL4 after people get used to not having a V8.

[@H14RXV]

The W204 C63 is what really solidified the AMG brand. The fact some mad man decided it would be great idea to stick a 6.2l naturally aspirated V8 in a car designed for most families is insane (as they had been doing). I have the coupe and I often call it an alcoholic, cause it just downs its fuel. And I absolutely love it for it, although my wallet doesn’t. But I could not care less because every time I drive it I can’t get the smile of my face. And of course the sound? I mean it’s so raw and unfiltered. It’s brutal. This new C63 will be the downfall for AMG. You don’t quite know it yet but we will all look back and say because of the downsize, the character of the car, it’s soul will be lost. This is just another iPhone release. The hype over the first couple months is high, but no one cares after 2 months. Everyone’s waiting for the next one and no one will care when the next ones out. Yet for us petrol heads we still want that Nokia brick phone cause it just did it for us. That’s the old AMG.

[@dumptheclutch7231]

As they say: There’s no replacement for displacement!

[@joehaku2782]

Turbos are efficient, but as far as driver preference, i agree

[@dumptheclutch7231]

@@joehaku2782 exactly! it’s not just the power numbers, but the sound and feel, plus nothing beats the reliability of a large lower revving v8

[@IR-xy3ij]

The engine isn't the problem with this car, but the overall package is. Civic type r is an excellent car with a similar engine, but it spends all the effort on weight reduction and performance rather than cramming in as much fat as possible.

[@XfighterXGaming03]

W205 is the best c63 ever. Turbocharged 4 liter v8. Max torque at 1700rpm. One of the best engines ever made. Absolute animal.

[@nickmc_xd5566]

The SF90 just chilling in the parking lot with a roof box

[@ShaunWidner]

I can't blame him, I would frame that car in the back of the shot if I owned it as well--performance cars with roof boxes just look excellent.

[@Drizzyluke]

I don’t understand why they jumped to a 4 cylinder right away. A 6 cylinder would have been a way better choice

[@DanielSadjadian]

The bottom line is 2111kg and 4 cylinder sound..... At least the top end AMGs still get V8s, like the new SL and next gen AMG GT.

[@gregtufnall6276]

The potential worry with a performance hybrid is when you come to thrash it, the combustion engine oil is stone cold. That would always be playing on my mind. Other than that, I’m sure it’s good.

[@tubejorrit]

Same, I wonder how long these engines (and the turbo bearing spinning in thick, cold oil) will last.

[@MrAceekidd]

The a45 have proved that the engine are very realibe, however this isn't the right engine for the c63s, shoulda stuck to the v8 or gone with the v6.

[@DanielSadjadian]

Would it not look nicer with wider rear wheel arches, perhaps to match the front wheel arches?

[@tubejorrit]

c63 never had wide rear arches, only the black series coupe.

[@DanielSadjadian]

@@tubejorrit True. Perhaps something Mercedes should change on the new C63S. Seems to be the same case with the E63S too. It just seems a bit odd, the front is so wide and muscular, but the rear is fairly normal looking.

[@vintageyu-hi-oh4271]

You again

[@soubido]

No V8 no party. I'll be keeping my W205 C63S Coupe thank you very much.

[@marijnschrooyen8903]

would have liked some outside rev's to hear the 4 cilincder. otherwise great video!

[@bg22757]

There probably isn't anything to hear

[@KoshBosch]

The C63 was an car to aspire to own and drive, now its just another C-class.

[@FELiPES101]

A low displacement inline 6 makes much more sense and sounds better

[@ghazaqudzammi7363]

The Final edition W205 C63s will be 🚀

[@Merc140497]

Imagine a W204 C63 with this interior and tech 😙

[@quintinsmits]

The brakes on my 330e behave similarly. I think it has to do with the regenerative braking which switches off below a certain speed, then it switches to the regular brakes. It takes a bit of concentration to make it stop smoothly.

[@Muhluri]

With how much this car costs, why didn’t they bother to make it smooth? I know other companies have successfully done that

[@Teonkennedy]

@@Muhluri my 2021 GLB250 did the same in the beginning of the purchase. It just takes getting used to.

[@rosse6705]

I have the new C Class Estate and it's the same with that also. Still struggling to get used to it after 6 months.

[@mjb10]

For a "small" car competing with the M2 I think it's not too outrageous... However I notice they're selling an E63S "Final Edition" now though, and this has me extremely worried about what may come with the next generation of large AMGs. As a 63 driver, the V8 soundtrack is undoubtedly its raison d'être - more so than its speed or power - and without it I suspect I'd honestly be happier and less frustrated in a mid-range Volvo than something so devoid of aural passion like this thing

[@frazerking9849]

An AMG is something you need to want….. something that’s chaos, the sound. Unfortunately this doesn’t tick any of them boxes. You may as well buy the old models, and buy a regular C class if you want the tech.

[@lloydbellis7360]

Still a cool car for newcomers like me, but prefer the old school V8. 👍👍👍👍

[@dominikn.5940]

Might have been totally missed in the debate but notice how on the old C63 the rear wheel arch was flared out and much wider than the stock c-class. Notice how this one literally takes the exact same panel as a C180 and because of that looks so bad because it lags the stance and the wide shoulders

[@Cassp0nk]

Yep cost cutting!

[@siddharthsr1]

C63 always means the glorious 6.2 M156 what a beast of an engine that is

[@AntoniusTyas]

I have yet to see _ANYONE_ taken a liking towards the C63S ePerformance. I guess AMG really ballsed it up on this one...

[@LarryHatch]

Wish I could remember the guy who predicted that "tiny, cheap, crap ICE engines will be added to EV motors to generate big profits". This seems just that same formula. The E-ray is getting heat but at least it has a legit V8 powerplant as the base. I cannot ever see the Patina Collection Museum importing one from Europe in 20 years for their displays. It lacks the charm and gravitas of an AMG.

[@timmywil]

680hp is pretty incredible. Hybrid done right IMO. Even then, it's a lot of money for a 4 cylinder.

[@nemoa7692]

Tycane does not have an engine and its an incredible car

[@rteezy5683]

im with you shmee… the technologie behind that car is very impressive, but there are no emotions coming from a 4 cylinder.

[@bethelmadida9513]

How maintaining this would be hard, for such performance you can hear the small engine working so hard I doubt it would keep up with the demand of an amg driver. Then the tech when it goes wrong I can't even imagine the bill I genuinely believe a 3.0 6 cylinder from the previous c43 would've been the better downsize and a faster car that handles the compromise better

[@rickbullock4331]

Very interesting review. The Mercedes cars in general, are way out of my purchasing realm. The engineering in the car itself seems mind boggling. The power achieved from a 2.0 litre four cylinder engine is crazy and then add the electric motor boost to that is impressive to say the least. I’m in agreement with you Tim, as far as the sound of an eight cylinder raucous V8 and the engine under hard acceleration and the exhaust note, are really hard to say goodbye to. Speakers trying to enhance the sound won’t cut it as if you’re going to the theatre with surround sound by THX. I like the car’s appearance though with the satin exterior finish. I could definitely live with that car but obviously I can’t afford one so, I’m stuck with my 2.0 litre turbocharged engine with 250 h.p. Oh well!🤔😬👍👍

[@-LK34-]

The carbon emissions created by making the batteries that go into the hybrid system means that the whole point in making the car a smaller hybrid engine is completely pointless! And they have lost the AMG V8 character

[@Shmee150]

Would be interesting to get a direct comparison of lifetime emissions for the vehicle

[@michelhickey5765]

there whole goal is to produce the pollution elsewhere so it is not in your neighborhood

[@ramsanachajew4911]

Its all just a fugazi. The 2.0 Liter shitbox with 400 + Hp will explode before the System could ever make any ecological sense :>

[@Nico-nc4me]

What a shame... 4 cylinders in a c63 :/ great review !

[@-LK34-]

Wouldn’t say that it’s “more aggressive” at all, looks quite tame in comparison to previous models actually

[@Shmee150]

I was comparing to a regular C Class

[@JerainJezza]

They didn't change the rear wheel arches, that looks like a regular C class now...

[@sidrens1047]

Absolutely agree! Looks like any normal saloon on the road. My friend has the 2008 version, which looks immense!

[@lilmoesieable]

looks a way better and modern than the previous model

[@rcart1]

@@lilmoesieable no it doesn’t, not even close

[@patrickpetrousian2895]

Mercedes really cares about their clients. Current c63 values skyrocket while not having the “want” or “need” to spend extra on the new one haha.

[@kelvinblake]

I’m sticking with my C63 Black Series and my C63s Final Edition.

[@midlifewarrior5431]

Shmee this is the first c63 you drive, where I note that in the whole video you don't smile

[@alastairwinner]

Number of cylinders matters not to me, its how the car makes you feel that matters. The car industry has conditioned us to associate number of cylinders to the status of the vehicle. This car is some much more technically advanced that the older V8 models, but personally it leaves me cold.

[@MarcSob22]

Very heavy, the power is not 100% of the time, besides for my personal taste it is very ugly especially the interior with these exaggerated screens! But the content on channel, great as always

[@m.m.m.a4866]

they're saying its the most performance thanks to that 4 cyl. But reality is , there will always be faster cars. it's about the feeling you get, and c63 has always been about the rumbly engines sounds. They killed it. Should have just changed the name tbh.

[@dash-ryan]

Yep, that brake peddle is the one consistent gripe with every single reviewer. Mercedes better fix that fast because some reviewers are saying it's a deal breaker.

[@Fritz___]

476 HP from a 2.0 Turbo engine is incredible. Imagine unveiling a car with that engine in say the 1980s. Only the largest engines in the maddest of sports cars could have compared.

[@alexbramm8526]

Mitsubishi had that 10 years ago

[@kzed]

@@alexbramm8526Yeah but you had to service it every 3 months, might as well been a rally car engine

[@stuartleonard1060]

All new c class cars have that funny braking feel. I think it's the re-gen.

[@FastTeam11]

Yea, i recently drove a A-class hybrid of a colleague. Had the exact same experience with the brakes. At first nothing happens, then way to much. Also very inconsistent Pedal feel. It was so bad, my passenger actually asked, if i forgot how to drive lol

[@stuartleonard1060]

I had a loan 206 c300 for 2 weeks, and after this period, I found the pedal ok. Had the loan c300 while my e class had the engine removed due to brake failure. This was a recall caused by an o ring leaking coolant into the vacuum lines and stopping the brakes from working. The car won't stop at junctions, had to shift into P. The engine needed to be removed to change the tandem vacuum/ oil pump. I have a c300 petrol mild hybrid on order.

[@rosse6705]

I have the new C Estate and still struggle to get used to the braking after 6 months. Very unpredictable

[@Jasta315]

Let's be real if you can afford one of these as your daily, you can also afford a fun loud v8 as your weekend car 🤷‍♂️

[@implntd_kid1864]

The company that used to make masterpieces such as "Gull-wing" and "The Hammer" is now about to give up their own heritage. Mercedes fanboys aren't just upset that the new c63 is hybridized.
This is due to the addition of a "63" badge to the 2.0 4-cylinder engine, not the V8. Seriously, Its not just about numbers. Anyone who has ever driven an AMG will never forget the intense sound and rich acceleration of the v8. Today's Mercedes-Benz is not only losing their v8 spirit of Affalterbach, but also erasing their driving feelings themselves. What a shame on German car industry today

[@dexterjsullen]

U stick with my v12 benz lol these 4cyc makes my v12 look super reliable

[@eddie360]

looks like the AMG V8 bout to sky rocket on prices...

[@aadisamaroo3074]

Long live the 4.0 litre bi turbo, will never forget

[@ru6886]

Tbh what’s the incentive to buy an AMG now? The V8 was their selling point.

[@ryanhoffmann9341]

The C63 S was begging for the turbo inline 6 cylinder. Drop the battery stuff and it would be 200 lbs lighter and still make well over 500 hp. Very rare time where absolute most power is not the best option.

[@nsm487]

i thought they would go toward the e53 amg 6 cylinder...that thing is plenty powerful but they chose this path which is baffling

[@hassanger8128]

Man, it is 800lb heavier than the M3

[@ASAPg35]

I love how noone is showing us how it really sounds…

[@ikeudechukwu5018]

The reason I love the c-class is that it is relatively light, and it can be thrown around easily. The electrification has made the C-63 heavier. A C43 is where the lightness can be had.

[@gordonsimpson3235]

I may be fast, but the dashboard looks like a child has glued a pair of iPads to it, and it sounds like a Golf GTI. NOT AMG money!

[@bamboosho0t]

The engine is the heart & soul. It would have 1000hp, but it's pointless if it has no soul.

[@nsm487]

exactly...thats what these manufacturers dont get

[@fletch9702]

"I don't know how to put it into words" As Harry Enfield would say, "OI - AMG! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"

[@DW94576]

If this had been a six cylinder it would have been acceptable, if they'd called the four cylinder a C45 It would have been acceptable, but calling a four cylinder car a "63" is just downright disrespectful.

[@mikolv21]

More efficient, quieter and even more powerful, seems like a win-win-win to me, what's controversial about that?

[@supremeetnel7707]

“efficient and quite” in a sentence with c63 are you crazy.

[@freddiejones4598]

What’s controversial? Amgs always handled poorly, now with an extra 400kg it will handle like shit, that power isn’t available all the time so you could end up with 2.1 ton 4 cylinder car, doesn’t look great, cheap plastic interior..

[@rotcoke652]

I'm never selling my 2021 C 63 S for this reason. Only exception would be if they brought the V8 back for a C 63 black series

[@gratefulot360]

I have to agree with you, Tim. There are other ways Mercedes can be in compliance without removing the soul of AMG.

[@alexluke84]

What a mad world we live in...476hp from that 4cylinder, number that was attainable 20years ago with the fabulouse M113K supercharged V8 😎

[@martinstoianov91]

What if the battery is depleted ? It just becomes a heavy 2.0 sedan, with bad consumption. If I buy a car with 680PS I assume I can use it all the time,

[@momokr2282]

I am genuinely curious about the sales numbers. Mercedes is my favorite car brand, however I honestly hope it flops miserably. Anyways great video and thank your for sharing your honest opinion and not trying to convince everyone into buying this car!

[@Cassp0nk]

Mercedes U.K. sales this year are terrible. Across the board not c63 specific.

[@todo4628]

That doesn't make a huge difference. If it fails they still won't start bringing the C63 back with a V8. They'd probably discontinue it completely. But nontheless i also hope it flops. Maybe other brands wait discontinueing big engines until no longer possible by law. But no matter what cars being about emotions is a thing of the past. It makes me extremly sad and i hope i'll at least be able to drive my motorcycles for a few decades. But that will probably be over soon too.

[@hassanger8128]

BMW has beaten Mercedes for the fifth consecutive year in terms of sales numbers.

[@zack3931]

No a 4 cylinder amg is a slap in the face to their heritage

[@capn_shawn]

The modern MB electronic dash looks like a cheap flashy 1990's stereo and I'm sure it will age just as well. I'm an adult, I don't need to see a swooping 3D animation of my car every time I get in and I certainly don't want to have to push buttons to enable the engine or disable the start/stop. After 3 Mercedes and 1 AMG.... I now drive a Porsche with a mostly real gauges and a real engine.

[@saman_tabieb]

There is a justified explanation for why they relied on a four-cylinder!! They don't have the six-cylinder required for the job and it's a lot of power ، And if you ask them why?? They will say that it is better, more economical, and more powerful than the eight-cylinder, and they will not leave you any argument for why they resorted to a four-cylinder.

[@torrhthc4103]

Nobody is interested in arguing with them, they can go ahead with their circus show and pad themselves on the back. People will just walk away and go buy an M3.

[@timessix8434]

There’s no replacement for displacement. That’s why I will keep my RS6 until it falls apart. Sorry.

[@Hawkifyed]

Absolutely disgusting that they did this. Put the V8 in there, give it a small battery and put all out the power to the back wheels. It would do fine with emissions and still be a fun car. Lambo is doing it right with the lb744 and BMW is nailing it with the 330E in the budget segment, insane that this made it into production 🤢

[@db_auto_photography4539]

6.2 has a special place in my heart

[@WoTjolly]

they absolutely DIDN'T get it right, both aesthetically and mechanically. BMWs are horrendous to look at, but mechanically are works of art

[@sjoerdsliedrecht5610]

I dont really mind the 4 cylinder, I guess it is inevitable, but it's the not-wide rear for me..

[@ourfutureisdark]

Me too bro seriously the M3 kills it there

[@tool8337]

That was my experience with the brake pedal in the loaner c300 i got. I was overall super disappointed in the car - Mercededs failed to do the things they should get right - and had been doing well.

[@peters9732]

They could've atleast gave ih the I6 from the E53 n widened the rear arches

[@svgaming2716]

Exactly

[@brownhairydog6472]

Change is always hard but in this case i think the mood of the room is correct. Electric cars have democratised high performance so this type of car needs to excel in other areas. Quality, luxury, styling, sound, handling, utility, features. It doesn't seem to leap the pack in any one of these areas other than lap times.

[@elliot4013]

V8 or boycott

[@sbennett156]

I won’t be selling my 2012 C63 AMG just yet! Love the tech….not the engine!

[@20RM02]

It's just me or the new C E and S look so much more similar than the previous gen?

[@Muhluri]

I agree. I honestly can’t tell the difference when I see them on the road

[@basteal6910]

I can’t unsee the gap on the back of the steering wheel. I imagine it’s to allow the horn room to function, but looks like they forgot to add a piece of trim.

[@superfast30]

As we all know, horsepower numbers alone are a part of the driving experience. The auditory and manic characteristics of high strung, high revving N/A powerpkants cannot be matched. Most would take a slightly slower car with more character than a faster one with the soul of a vacuum cleaner. However, a 2 litre turbo motor pushing 470 from the factory is commendable. No doubt its quick car.

[@Pasovineyard]

So left out here is the technology used with this four cylinder engine. This is a high boost motor that can use in excess of 30psi boost. Do not think of this motor as just a four cylinder. More than four cylinders is not needed. A version of this motor is going into the Lotus Emira.

[@believeinmatter]

Engine may be controversial for some, but the looks I think most people can agree on. Looks really good this year

[@magnustan841]

I completely understand the opinion that this is the wrong move by AMG to try something so different for the new C63. It’s unfortunate for the W206 that it’s predecessors have become so iconic and garnered such a following. No matter how good it goes onto become, it’ll always be trial by fire. However, there will be people who like this car and let us not slam them as “non-enthusiasts” and shun them. Everyone in this community is different and are entitled to their preferences. The fact they even bother to read and learn more about this car means they are enthusiastic about high performance.

[@stevecarr9028]

Happy to stick with myV8 W205, which is now destined to become a modern classic.

[@paulkrapp]

I've had a lot of 2 liter 4 cyl cars, but they only had 1/4 of that power! 🤯

[@wishdj]

Just some random high horsepower numbers does not make a car fun to drive. What's the point in having that peak horsepower for a few minutes till the battery drains out? I own a C63S estate and cannot imagine AMG has downgraded to a 4-cylinder. I can't understand who this car is going to appeal to or if it will ever sell.

[@ch6inre6ction11]

So they should have went with a higher output 3.0 turbo I6 after all what's the point of engineering the I6 if they didn't plan on a high performance version?

[@rantalaathome]

The engine feels very strained under load. When ever you do nore then 50% throttle you can feel how hard it is working to keep up. Also the car feels very heavy and the breaks and steering doesn't feel connected somehow.