“Sentient Swamp that tried to take over the Galaxy.” Elaborate
@someguy-oe4ut4 ай бұрын
Watch his video on Mngal Mngal. That is the creature.
@michaelandreipalon3594 ай бұрын
If he's gonna explore that thing, hope he also talks about its parents Tilotny and Cold Danda Sine.
@Solo135084 ай бұрын
He could be talking about the Drengir from the High Republic. They were dark side plant monsters intent on consuming all sentient beings.
@miniaturejayhawk87024 ай бұрын
The flood?
@8_8_Purpura_Committatus_0_53 ай бұрын
It wasn't swamp my friend. It was rather sentient pus.
@parkerdixon-word62954 ай бұрын
I do appreciate that, every once in awhile, Star Wars gets *delightfully cyberpunk* with details like the Corpsec, corporations taking senate seats in the prequels, and a bunch of coruscant's aesthetic in Attack of the Clones.
@Theology.1014 ай бұрын
Who would’ve guessed that private corporations given absolute political authority would exploit and torment everything they owned? It worked out so well in india! nah but fr, having a state who’s fundamental goal is self interest and profit at the expense of the people is destined to be terrible.
@heavyarms554 ай бұрын
The USA? It's on that path.
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
@@heavyarms55The USA is far beyond that path lol. Nobody in previous centuries before the formation of the Republic conceived of something like this being possible because nothing like this existed before to this extent. They could have looked to Italian City States for reference but may have not have had as much knowledge of them or worse saw them as role-models. The Florentine Republic controlled by bankers. The Venetian or Genoneese Republic controlled by trade moguls. The Greek City States or Roman Era City States were actually nothing like this lol. With the exception of Corinth and Carthage city states were not founded to promote oligarchic corpratoracies or banking empires🤣. They were founded as to protect rights of the people and create bubble of safety for communal values based around civic duty to prosper. Of course the founding fathers at the time had no way of knowing this.
@heavyarms554 ай бұрын
@@Not-Ap This guy knows his or her stuff!
@loafoffloof34204 ай бұрын
@@heavyarms55 nah, it is ROK or the DPRK's Kim Dynasty lmao. like the Kim Dynasty is technically a cooperation if you really think about it
@ProdAlarick4 ай бұрын
@@heavyarms55 it's already way too into it(not just the USA but the world). Market race for products are an illusion when all brands are owned by the same Corp. This includes as of now from food produce to luxury hideous clothing everything. Aside from local small buisness every other bigger company is but a step of the ladder and at the top you'll get to the same roof no matter what ladder you start to climb on.
@sentrysapper454 ай бұрын
The Han Solo books by Brian Daley are some of my personal favorite EU stories. They're no literary masterpieces by any stretch of the imagination, but they're filled to the brim with pulpy, freewheeling space adventure goodness. They also introduced so much lore that would influence future works to a surprising degree in both Legends and Canon. I've always felt that the CSA has been underutilized as villains, with most works being content to stick to the usual suspects of the Empire/CIS/Sith. We got a small taste of what it could be like with the Preox-Morlana corporation in Andor, but the CSA's genocidal "profits before EVERYTHING" policies makes them look positively benign by comparison.
@Hello-bi1pm4 ай бұрын
Disney likes to sanitize EU concepts too much, soooo... It's good enough that we got what we got
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
@@Hello-bi1pmThey don't wanna draw unsightly comparisons that could threaten their profits lol. Buying out Star Wars is like buying out a hard hitting news station, website, or newspaper that consistently makes you and your friends look bad.😂
@MobiusLeader0074 ай бұрын
Agree. The CSA is one of my favorite minor villain factions of the EU and it was kinda disappointing that after their initial introduction, they were rarely used in anything afterward. They could've been a nice break from the old "Imperial of the week" stories. Daley did make the CSA as a stand in for the Empire.
@RoyalFusilier4 ай бұрын
As Michael Parenti wrote in Blackshirts and Reds, many asked who supported the fascists, relatively few asked who the fascists supported.
@delb21924 ай бұрын
Didn't expect to see someone referencing Parenti, but I'm certainly not disappointed. Based reference, Parenti is one of a few decent intellectuals to come out of American politics
@josef1391Ай бұрын
Reminds me of a cambridge study which our neo liberal now ex minister of finances was recently confronted with, which states that capitalist free market policys that hinder public investment and funding are benefiting a fascist sentiment in the public. His answer was ofcourse. "I don't believe in such nonsense" Heres a little rundown of the study in german. Eine in der Cambridge University Press veröffentlichte Studie (Bieling 2022) mit dem Titel “Austerity-induced populism: the rise and transformation of the new right” untersucht den Zusammenhang zwischen der Sparpolitik in Europa und dem Aufstieg rechtspopulistischer Parteien. Die Forschung hebt hervor, dass die Sparpolitik, welche seit den späten 1970er Jahren verstärkt in den EU-Mitgliedsstaaten umgesetzt wird und insbesondere während der Finanzkrise zu einer verschärften Maßnahme wurde, eine Rolle bei der Stärkung rechtspopulistischer Bewegungen gespielt haben könnte. Die Studie zeigt auf, dass der Aufstieg des Rechtspopulismus in der EU parallel zur Implementierung marktliberaler Austeritätsmaßnahmen verlief. Dies begann bereits in den 1970er Jahren mit der Gründung ethnonationalistisch orientierter Parteien wie der Fortschrittsparteien in Skandinavien, Vlaams Belang in Belgien und der Front National in Frankreich. Diese Entwicklung setzte sich fort mit der Gründung weiterer Parteien in den 1980er und 2000er Jahren, darunter die Lega Nord in Italien, die UK Independence Party in Großbritannien und die Alternative für Deutschland
@josef1391Ай бұрын
Reminds me of a cambridge study which our neo liberal now ex minister of finances was recently confronted with, which states that capitalist free market policys that hinder public investment and funding are benefiting a fascist sentiment in the public. His answer was ofcourse. "I don't believe in such nonsense" Heres a little rundown of the study in german. Eine in der Cambridge University Press veröffentlichte Studie (Bieling 2022) mit dem Titel “Austerity-induced populism: the rise and transformation of the new right” untersucht den Zusammenhang zwischen der Sparpolitik in Europa und dem Aufstieg rechtspopulistischer Parteien. Die Forschung hebt hervor, dass die Sparpolitik, welche seit den späten 1970er Jahren verstärkt in den EU-Mitgliedsstaaten umgesetzt wird und insbesondere während der Finanzkrise zu einer verschärften Maßnahme wurde, eine Rolle bei der Stärkung rechtspopulistischer Bewegungen gespielt haben könnte. Die Studie zeigt auf, dass der Aufstieg des Rechtspopulismus in der EU parallel zur Implementierung marktliberaler Austeritätsmaßnahmen verlief. Dies begann bereits in den 1970er Jahren mit der Gründung ethnonationalistisch orientierter Parteien wie der Fortschrittsparteien in Skandinavien, Vlaams Belang in Belgien und der Front National in Frankreich. Diese Entwicklung setzte sich fort mit der Gründung weiterer Parteien in den 1980er und 2000er Jahren, darunter die Lega Nord in Italien, die UK Independence Party in Großbritannien und die Alternative für Deutschland
@joekyle65944 ай бұрын
Between the privatized regime, essentially serving as an extractive resource colony in which large swathes of territory are governed by monopolistic corporations, and extensive human rights abuses, the CSA sounds a lot like Star Wars' version of the Congo Free State.
@Arauto_Kagnos4 ай бұрын
Boy I sure do think this very fictional thing of corporations having completely unchecked power and the ability to do whatever they want is awful. Imagine how bad living in a society where everything is dictated by big corporations and their needs for profit instead of what would be good for society overall. Thank the Force the real world has nothing like that at all and that things like this are purely fictional.
@michaelandreipalon3594 ай бұрын
It's also a tired trope. What I would do so to make a truly benevolent corpo and even a government in my own works, whilst lambasting the increasingly anarchist and sinful civvie population...
@Arauto_Kagnos4 ай бұрын
@@michaelandreipalon359 it's a tired trope because it's true.
@michaelandreipalon3594 ай бұрын
@@Arauto_Kagnos Let's just say we need less cynical, more optimistic even if still combative fiction. And besides, not all civvie ideals and free speech are "schway", in Batman Beyond... look at the hippies of yore, as a deservedly condemned example. Still a tired trope nonetheless, not unlike cringingly swooning women in 19th century books.
@Arauto_Kagnos4 ай бұрын
@michaelandreipalon359 if you wanna write a story about a benevolent corporation that rules over people and the people are unjustly revolting against that then you're not being optimistic, you're just being naive about what corporations actually do at best. At worst, you're part of what's wrong with current society. Such a story these days would be the most tone-deaf thing to come out in a time where corporations are actively making everything shittier in order to raise their profit margins at the expense of everyone who isn't at the top.
@michaelandreipalon3594 ай бұрын
@@Arauto_Kagnos It may not be digestible now, but over time, it may somehow age too well, the same way Moby Dick and War of the Worlds resonated after the unthinkable World Wars. Really, I'm one of those people who'd rather write about something that should be brutally and foresightfully honest and timeless whilst expressing something outside of an all too familiar and eventually overrated norm.
@AnonymousStarWars4 ай бұрын
Great video as always! I love your based comments that you snuck in a few of during the information. “Oh wow I wonder what that’s like.”
@XLjackbot4 ай бұрын
THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT! Honestly the CSA might be a very cool place for an adventure arc in the pre TPM Republic given the corruption of the period.
@alexr.m.63824 ай бұрын
George predicted what Quiznos would become
@Theology.1014 ай бұрын
@@alexr.m.6382 the dreaded conqueror of the Twin Galaxies, Quiznos
@Dexter037S44 ай бұрын
George predicted Elongated Muskrat
@kR-qj7rw3 ай бұрын
Predicted Brother do you think this wasn't a looming threat all the way back when uncle George was young lol
@thorshammer78834 ай бұрын
The Expanded Universe and the writers of the 1990s sure do rule of as the greatest we had.
@baronjutter4 ай бұрын
Surprised you didn't mention the whole CSA related plot points in Andor, some of the only corporate sector depictions we've seen in live action.
@glenarnold50584 ай бұрын
Corey mostly covers Legends material.
@CoreysDatapad4 ай бұрын
I do cover canon stuff, but I don't usually mix it unless the point is specific comparison, but while the Corporate Sector does exist the PreMor stuff in Andor wasn't the CSA, it was a separate thing- it's actually Acolyte that mentions the Corporate Sector.
@UndeadNorseman4 ай бұрын
The Corporate Sector Authority is my favorite piece of extended lore to the Star Wars galaxy. Especially with the expansions to its significance throughout the clone wars era.
@patrickfiller51974 ай бұрын
Something tells me that the entire CSA did not in fact like and subscribe. Wait till the senate hears about this.
@HGShurtugal4 ай бұрын
It's funny that star wars has robots that have no rights, can be mind wiped, and can work better and longer than organics. But the cooperations are like no we want to be as shitty and comically evil as possible.
@mb94844 ай бұрын
Czerka: Am I a joke to you?
@implodinggoat4 ай бұрын
East India Company in Space.
@lynngreen79784 ай бұрын
Wait, the CSA was founded 500 years before the Old Sith Wars, *inside* the Sith Empire, and survived as a independent entity for the entirety of the next 1500 years?
@CoreysDatapad4 ай бұрын
There had been colonies there and then the Republic discovered them in 4500ish. It's also near but not within Sith space. The first attempt at the Corporate Sector being anything from the Republic was in 500 BBY, and the CSA as a political entity wasn't until the Empire
@marty21293 ай бұрын
"Get the kriff up, Jedi Knight. We have a sector to burn." - Nynjoh Sliverhand, 20.77 ABY...
@neilhannan51124 ай бұрын
Give them bread and circues and they will never revolt -Juvenal
@Theology.1014 ай бұрын
If palpatine had bothered to keep up the “benevolent grandfather” figure to the galaxy, there straight up wouldnt have been any revolts of substance. Like, you have absolute power my guy, you don’t need to make life a living hell for everyone else
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
@@Theology.101It was the effects of the darkside. He didn't just want control. He wanted the entire galaxy brought under the influence of the dark side. Essentially he wanted to create a Sith version of the Rakatan Infinite Empire again. The moment people realized where things were heading they started collectively standing up to stay no.
@Theology.1014 ай бұрын
@@Not-Ap yeah he had dominated the navy to the point where it was chaos without him, and as seen on Mindor and Byss, he had those ambitions… but he could do it secretly without anyone know
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
@@Theology.101 Byss may have worked had it not been for Luke and problem of dark side corruption of the physical body. He should have retreated to the edges of the Galaxy and attempted another long game to corrupt galactic governments from the inside out. I suppose though he just got tried of playing that game and was to upset about Endor. Still though that was on him. He should have taken on another apprentice (not a Skywalker lol) familiar with the norms of the post empire era and came at this from a different angle. Like falling back to one of satellite galaxies and rebuilding his strength in secret or something as you said.
@toastie81733 ай бұрын
AnCaps be like: What a utopia
@kaynawests2624 ай бұрын
I own one fractional share of the CSA etf stock, and this video is inflammatory and outrageous
@TioCucarachaGordo3 ай бұрын
I think a story, whether a game, movie, shoe etc, set in the CSA could be a very interesting thing for Star Wars to do. It’s dabbled with cyberpunk elements, but a story that fully embraces it could really work. Also, it’d be a breath of fresh air for the series. Hopefully they do it one day as movies like solo and rogue one have expanded the type of stories Star Wars has told.
@Toshineko4 ай бұрын
Emperor Palpatine: The Empire is the most oppressive regime in the galaxy! CSA: Hold my beer.
@bronzebow42354 ай бұрын
I'm sorry that I only have one account to sub with! I think I've been subbed since shortly after you started this channel and I have to say thank you for the good lore content here.
@inquisitorgarza3124 ай бұрын
Really the Corporate Sector should never risen up after the formation of the Galactic Empire considering that the Clone Wars was fought against Corporations that became too big for the Republic, and even though Palpatine got a cut of the profits from that sector, but the public and perhaps some of the high military command would have never allowed for the continue existence of the Corporate Sector considering how bad the Clone Wars was.
@Theology.1014 ай бұрын
@@inquisitorgarza312 yes but not THESE corps. it was only those nasty aliens, the Tagge family and other human ones have always been on palp’s team
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
Oh the legends New Republic did try to come after them and criticized them as being worse than the Empire in some ways. Unfortunately the founding members of the CSA were made up of people from the orginal Old Republic and still had connections to many wealthy core worlds who protected their interests.
@MeatbagSlayer4 ай бұрын
All corporations are evil and immoral until they pay you to say they're not.
@kR-qj7rw3 ай бұрын
Because the csa is essentially the """good guys""" corpos who stickers with the republic and later. Empire
@Finn_71174 ай бұрын
Now we need a video on that swamp
@kevinvassago4 ай бұрын
Corey, I'm so glad u aren't part of this current yt drama. I'm basically sticking to channels where I don't have to listen to ppls dirty laundry, and I'm glad yours is one of them❤
@TheLewisDawg4 ай бұрын
Heyo. What drama do you mean? (whatever the answer, I do agree with the sentiment 🙂)
@kaynawests2624 ай бұрын
@@TheLewisDawgyou xan find info on it on star war theories account
@CoreysDatapad4 ай бұрын
I do not recommend that video as a source of information.
@kaynawests2624 ай бұрын
@@CoreysDatapad what would you recommend as a source to someone who is curious?
@CoreysDatapad4 ай бұрын
A source for what though? The Theory video takes the premise that the petition was written by Mollie (which it wasn't) and called for him to get demonetized (which it didn't) with the argument that it's because of people being jealous of them. He then spends the whole video talking about DMs from Alex, which are quite frankly fine? Maybe trying a little too hard to clarify he's not mad about the ad because he's approaching a guy he doesn't know yet? And who's involved by virtue of being Mollie's husband rather than ever having said or done anything with the petition or about Theory, and EckhartsLadder, who wasn't involved in anything either, by virtue of him being friends with Alex and Mollie- even though Theory opens the video talking about how he shouldn't be responsible for his friends "spicier" takes as he puts it, with them being much more inflammatory than just repeating "I'm really not made about the ads." The reason I haven't said anything isn't because I lack a position. I know many of the people involved. I have responded in comments when people ask (or attempt to threaten me for my own friendship with Eck or Alex/Mollie), and shared certain things to make my position clear without getting into the nitty gritty, because I feel like the whole video genre comes down to drama being monetized. That is not my genre, and my contributing to it only grows that market, rather than having anything I would consider a positive effect, except maybe making me some money if the video attracts the kinds of views I don't really want in the first place.
@wilhufftarkin85433 ай бұрын
The Amazon Sector
@Datboi81423 сағат бұрын
They live in a fantasy land where they are gonna be the capitalist and not the guy on the bottom
@RyanBride6204 ай бұрын
First he makes videos about politics. Now about capitalism. Shake my head. I miss when Corey wasn't a shill for Disney. This comment was sarcasm and exist to boost engagement
@ronaldramirez56014 ай бұрын
Great video Corey. Thank you
@Scottynsb7654 ай бұрын
Man can’t believe I had to follow CSA contractual law and like this video.
@echoalpha99354 ай бұрын
If you are interested theirs a mod that lets you play as the CSA in AOTR
@tehrulefoo4 ай бұрын
Figured it would have been the Infinite Empire
@shanenolan56253 ай бұрын
I think the corporate sector was mentioned in a new hope script, deleted scenes Luke and bigger discuss it
@StarWarsCentralized4 ай бұрын
I’ve got the Han Solo and the Corporate Sector sourcebook and it’s got some wild stuff in it!
@LexiLunarpawАй бұрын
I love how you made it in thrawns revenge that even the Empire goes after them 😂 (At least in Instant action)
@Sakura_Matou4 ай бұрын
Well..at least it isn't the Imperium of Man lol
@aaronmoten9534 ай бұрын
That's the Pius Dea.
@DaringDan4 ай бұрын
Had-abaddon.
@daveroe49612 ай бұрын
Bollux. The author knew exactly what he was doing.
@michaelandreipalon3594 ай бұрын
Since the local Jedi and the Triumvirate aren't doing anything against them, perhaps covert ops by an unknown Multiversal entity and their own strike force have to happen to compensate. Just saying.
@starwars81084 ай бұрын
hi corey, hope revan's revenge goes well
@m.a.26334 ай бұрын
Worse than the Empire, huh? Some Star Wars fans would have to wonder why.
@tehrulefoo4 ай бұрын
Yeah. I dont think the CSA hold a candle to some of the real monsters of the Star Wars universe. The Yuuzhan Vong, Infinite Empire and even just the Empire as a whole seem way worse to me than the Corporate Sector.
@michaelandreipalon3594 ай бұрын
And then there's the Bedlam Spirits, especially Tilotny, as seen in the Supernatural Encounters novella... for some reason, they make Tolkien's Morgoth and Sauron feel tame.
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
In some ways at the time of the Empire at it's height... it definitely was. I'd choose to live in the Empire anyday over the CSA.
@christiansmith-of7dt4 ай бұрын
They did a really bad job on my back surgery and hurt alot of people in the process , just look at how my surgery effected your life
@thebosskingreturns4 ай бұрын
The CSA (1861-1865) 🤝 The CSA (Star Wars) Being horribly oppressive and Evil regimes
@Constant_Of_Morality4 ай бұрын
Both are still quite different from one another tbf.
@thebosskingreturns4 ай бұрын
@@Constant_Of_Morality both held slaves. 🤷♂️
@somerandompersonidk22724 ай бұрын
gotta love fighting for planetary rights
@Constant_Of_Morality4 ай бұрын
@@thebosskingreturns The only point of connection they share, Other than that not much else.
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
@thebosskingreturns But lots of governments in the outer rim held slaves. It wasn't something specific to them and CSA in real life was not composed, founded, backed primarily by corporate entities. The Union's primary backbone on otherhand was gillded age industrial tycoons. True their workers had "rights" (hardly at the time) and were paid but people regularly died in the factories, mines, or construction projects operated by said corporations. Very little if any compensation was given to the families if or when this happened until the formations of the workers unions who pushed for better legal protections. It's old argument but not entirely untrue, to say part of the reason for the civil war was not just to free the slaves out the kindness of the unions heart, but a scheme by northern industrial magnets to wipe out the competition that the plantation model posed to their industrial models expansion.
@williamnelson55494 ай бұрын
Rip James you were incredible
@mega-bustershepard55374 ай бұрын
I love Capitalism. Gotta make them space bucks.
@moblinmajorgeneral4 ай бұрын
7:29 💀
@samizdatbroadcasts76543 ай бұрын
1979. Seems almost prophetic, doesn't it?
@heavyarms554 ай бұрын
Yes but in TR they get Recusants and B1s, so they're still cool. Lol
@warlordofbritannia4 ай бұрын
Chyrrrmyn’s Space March to the Outer Rim is such an underexplored piece of galactic history.
@jonathansayah95064 ай бұрын
These guys were not much better in canon either.
@larsO2044 ай бұрын
The Galaxy's United States
@DarthVages4 ай бұрын
👍
@shanenolan56253 ай бұрын
😂 like button
@Littlemilkjug5334 ай бұрын
George predicted what Lucasfilm would become
@CoreysDatapad4 ай бұрын
What?
@Theology.1014 ай бұрын
@@CoreysDatapadstraight up i have no clue what this means. Since this comment came out i’ve been struggling. I think he’s talking about disney’s insane power but straight up i do not know
@MeatbagSlayer4 ай бұрын
Sir, this is a Wendy's drive through.
@Not-Ap4 ай бұрын
@@Theology.101 Of course it's talking about that lol. You can't deny that before the Disney buyout Star Wars was he and his ex wifes passion project. Along with all the other writers who contributed to the lore in the old Exapnded Universe novels so many social media accounts base their channels around. They poured their life into it and created a life around it. He set out to tell a story and she helped bring it to life. They later added richness and depth. Disney turned it into cash cow stripped of inspiration or understanding than completely milked the cow till dryness. To adapt a quote Ian Malcom from Jurassic Park " I'll tell you the problem with the corporate buyout's like this: it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could and before you even knew what you had you patented it and packaged it and slapped it on a plastic lunchbox, and now you're selling it, you want to sell it! ". That's essential what Disney did or does now and like dinosaurs of Jurassic Park are no more actual dinosaurs than the cheap plastic kids toys you see in toy stores made in china. It's a cheap copy based on the interpretation of somebody else's work without relying on any of the orginal guiding principles or framework the orginal creators used to bring their unique vision to life.
@hajimenagumo21994 ай бұрын
Corporatism and communism seem to be the same exact thing. All for power.
@Ironhardt2 ай бұрын
Communists turn the government into a giant corporation
@sulljoh14 ай бұрын
We love your analysis, Corey. You and Eck. But politics is too damn distracting these days. We'll get back to the GFFA in a few months! For now there's a lot of that "he is the traitOr-Ahh" meme IRL